Board Thread:Skyrim/@comment-120.28.157.86-20140406014559/@comment-26893431-20170226213021

YinyangElementofduality wrote: Blademaster Jauffre wrote: And the reason you don't see it being more than just annoyance is because you're too deep into your own little fanfiction. It's not really being deep in fanfiction but rather to consider what is needed to effectively counter the Aldmeri Dominion. Besides, I am not saying a faction that acts like the Empire but on Guild scale can take on the entire Aldmeri Dominion on its own. Its supposed to counter the Thalmor's strategies and I even said that this is an exceptionally difficult thing to accomplished.

Since you don't get what I'm saying as you don't need to get defensive or try to dismiss everything I say to hide the fact that you are totally lacking in strategy side because it is not shameful to be as lacking as you are in strategic acutement.

First when I say what it needs, it means what is necessary, not what can or cannot happen base on the limited options in the game. By becoming leader of various Guilds, it would means the Dragonborn would've spent at least 5 years in Skyrim. I've also stated you need to strengthen the Guilds meaning for this to work all the Guilds needs to be way stronger. Preferably about 10 to 1000 times stronger. Again, this is not base on what you see in the game but what must be achieved in the next 2 to 3 years for this to work against the Thalmor.

I believed I mentioned a lot of times that you have an insane amount of goals to accomplished. Insanely difficult but not impossible. That includes Preparing the Guilds to be ABLE TO FUNCTION on the assumption that the Dragonborn will be killed or trapped. Since it doesn't register to you at all, I will spoon feed you with an example of what can be done for this to work. Have the Guilds form a Council of Guilds or something who can make decisions in case the Dragonborn is not available this. Out of all the options, I choose this because you have the Emperor and Elder Council as a comparison. The Guilds themselves are like the Provinces, the Council for the Guilds are like the Elder Council and the Dragonborn who is the leader of every Guild is the Emperor.

Like the Empire, the Elder Council were able to run the Empire in absence of an Emperor just fine. I am not talking about during the years after Oblivion Crisis. By preparing the Guilds this way it is one of the many ways you can prepare. I predict something you'll think off to dismiss so I will say this straight now. Since this is what MUST BE DONE you'll naturally need to ensure that the identities of the leaders as secretive as possible to avoid the Thalmor's radar, only the Dragonborn needs to be known to them.

The Thalmor are actively looking for ways to weaken the Empire at the Empire's own expenses proven by how they would go as far as helping the Stormcloaks or Imperials to ensure the Civil War to continue.

There is no guarantee another one will not break out in another part of the Empire or if they've already have half or more of the Elder Council under their control making it even harder for the Emperor Mede II or his Successors to fight AD.

They don't need to let members of the Elder Council know what the Thalmor is really after. They can always let the Nobles think that the Great War was solely religious and as long as they don't worship Talos in front of them, they'll be fine while the Thalmor cite the Empire to keep attacking the Stormcloaks in case of a Stormcloak victory or if the Imperials won, the Thalmor can continue their political games with the Empire, taking out dangerous individuals who are a threat to their interests without really going into war, Tullius is ultimately a Soldier and does not have real say whether to fight or not.

The Emperor can desire to fight but if the Thalmor hasn't been slacking which they obviously are not, there is simply no way they haven't bring at least one member of the Elder Council under their control. The Thalmor can use Ulfric, they can definitely use Elder Council to undermine the Emperor. I think you have no clue how guilds in Skyrim work. They are not your ordinary guild, nope, they aren't even real guilds to begin with. And since none of them have any need of a council, they wouldn't agree to forming one. Not to forget that from a lore-friendly perspective it's impossible to manage the guild affairs of multiple guilds at the same time, let alone becoming part of multiple ones. The Arch-Mage needs to stay at the college to ensure that everything goes as planned, expeditions, resources etc. Same thing goes with the Companions. The Listener needs to remain near the Night Mother and the Head of the Thieves Guild needs to keep thinking about ways to make sure the guild survives. There won't be time to form this council of yours in any realistic pov. Hence why you have no strategical insight, since it's impossible.

I do hope you realise that the Thalmor are not helping the Imperials, right? Also, you keep claiming the Thalmor can take out anybody they see fit, but this is utter nonsense, not confirmed in the game and just more of your fanfiction at its work.

No they can not. There's no logical way for them to do so, and therefor, they haven't done so.

I suggest to stop bringing your illogical fanfic into a debate.