User blog comment:Grahinjul/STORMCLOAKS v.s IMPERIALS/@comment-9062114-20130725195341/@comment-11296535-20130731184128

I would like to point something out. Ulfric drove out a group of people who were called "savages" because they worship Daedra just so they could worship Talos. He felt that his wants were more important than a group of people's needs. The Forsworn were peaceful, but he killed every last one until they were forced to leave Markarth.

And the reason why Torryg's death was "cheating" is because he used the Thu'um, which is supposed to be reseved for the worship of Kynareth. Yet he forsakes this and uses it to kill his enemies. Any talk about him being an "honorable" Nord is completely false.