Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-11276487-20130713025241/@comment-11345660-20130721002714

Man of steak wrote: The Divines are so powerful, we only see them as planets when we look up into the night sky, our puny mortal minds trying to comprehend what we are seeing.

Or how about create an entire world? Each Prince does have a realm in Oblivion, but they are a lot smaller in scale than compared to Nirn. Daedric Princes may be powerful, but the good ol divines are even more so. Akatosh was incapacitated and he managed to defeat Mehrunes Dagon through Martin Septim, In his Sleep! 1.Daedric Princes cannot be truly killed.They are still invulnerable.Akatosh simply banished Dagon.

2.The divines pooled their combined power make Nirn.Each Daedric Prince made their realm on their own.Also, Molag Bal created his version of Nirn except it is pretty much inhabitable.Hermaeus Mora's Apocryhpa is literally endless, as it contains all knowledge.(After Storn gives up his secrets, which is canon.) The Deadlands are bigger then Tamriel as far as I know.

3.And you are forgetting Akatosh is the god of Time.He can warp time, regaining most of his power, theoretticaly.

4. Second era, Molag Bal literally plunged Tamriel into utter chaos.He had a infinite army of undead werewolves at his disposal and literally almost carried Tamriel into Coldharbour.An entire continent was nearly lifted out of Mundus and carried into Coldharbour.And who stopped him?Mortals.Why?He didn't even bother manifesting himself and just sent anchors down.If Divines are so powerful, why did mortals need the Amulet of Kings?

5.Artifacts.The Skeleton Key can open any lock, physical, mental or anything.It is more then likely the most powerful object to ever exist.The Wabbajack is based on mortals themselves, it is literally a part of mortals as well as Sheogorath.Why?Mortals are random, and everyone has a bit of madness in them.

6.The planets are a Dwemer drawing of what they imagined the Divines are like.In truth, the Divines tore a hole in Mundus and escaped to Aetherius, a completely different realm.The sun is that hole. Well Im about to tear a sun sized hole in your logic.

1) "Daedra don't die." Uh, yeah, we kinew that already. They're immortal. So? So are the divines.

2) The divines didn't just create Nirn, they created Mundus. All of it, which is basically the entire universe according to lore.

3) Yeah, Akatosh regained his power. What's your point? I thought the Daedra were supposed to be MORE powerful in your point of view, not less. You just contradicted your own argument.

4) Uh, let's wait until TESO actually comes out before we make assumptions, hmm? Besides, yeah, so Molag Bal has anchors? Big wupp. If Molag Bal is so powerful, how can a tiny amulet stop all of them from getting inside Nirn? Its IMBUED WITH THE POWER OF AKATOSH, who is a boss by the way. And the mortals don;t need the amulet any more because it was destroyed in the Oblivion Crisis.

5) Yeah, so the Daedra have artifacts? So wha? That doesn;t mean the Wabbajack is the world's most powerful weapon or the Skeleton Key, which can open locks, (OPEN LOCKS?! OMG!!! THAT"S SO POWERFUL! THE WAY ITS JUST A LOCKPICK THAT DOESN"T BREAK!!! OH THE HUMANITY!) is not the world's most powerful artifact. What about Auriel's Bow? That was pretty awesome. Or how about the Staff of Magnus? Pretty awesome. OR the Amulet of Kings for that matter. Able to hold off all the daedra from coming into Nirn on their own accord and Akatosh is still incapactiated. I know he can warp time and all, but if he was incapacitated, how could he regain his strength by warping time? He wouldn't be able to do that because he had no power left, and even still he is ableto hold off all the daedra from Nirn in his sleep. Go Akatosh, go.

6) The Dwemer probably knew a whole lot more about the Divines then you do ,good sir. These people stood up Azura with a box. I think they could figure out what the planets were. Also, no, the divines didn;t rise up into the sky and tore a hole into Aeitherus or however you spell it. It was Magnus, and the other dudes like spirits or something followed him and made the stars. So you see. The divines are ten times more powerful, infinityl more powerful than the daedra could ever hope to be.