Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-26213507-20150715194939/@comment-25513154-20150717224856

Ottoman Hold

Well thanks for that. I guess proving my points right again.

It's clear ur unfocused when ur typing. I  am going to keep this one simple.

How about this. When i say the Empire and the Dominion are the same, I mean this; MK already stated that the Empire is dead. He pointed out on a  '''forum that the Red Diamond is broken in to pieces and can only be placed back secretly. You know what that means right? That means Cyrodill's Tower is down. You know what that means? The only Tower left is Skyrim's Snow Throat. So when someone says they are fighting for the Empire what they are actually saying is that their a Dominion puppet. At this point in time in the Elder scrolls ur either with the Dominion or a Rebel. And i notice that the Empire isn't a rebel so there just puppets.'''

'''Beth did a nice job when it comes to placing the dragonborn in the rebel position through the whole of the game. So yeah the Empire or worse yet the Dominion Thalmore and the Rebels are the only ones fighting. Let me also put out the fact that this type of Empire wouldn't last that long in terms of being without a leader, the curroption and the strife all around.'''

So if u didn't understand that the "Empire" and the Dominion are the same just look up Mk's topic on the diamond being broken.

'''Let me also point out Hammerfell. Remember the Ebony warrior or should i say the aspect of Reman Cyrodill, came to the dragonborn telling him he did everything that can be done (that the dragonborn has done). Hint hint nodge nodge. Hammerfell conflict is no different from skyrim. Your either a rebel or a Dominion puppet and Beth made it clear that the Db isn't a Dominion Puppet with him killing thamlore everywhere he goes. (Try as u may the game is fixed to the player joining the Stormcloaks) '''

'''Saadia quest it's clear Beth gave the player "choices" lol, U either help the Alikar rebellion or help the Dominion by killing the Alikar. "Choices" huh. Lets move on the the Subliminal Redgaurd farmer thats going to Windhelm to join the stormcloaks. The devs forgot ( a bunch of stuff) to place the Redgaurds Soldiers and gaurds that are in the data files already into Windhelm. '''

It's clear they will join up some how if they already aren't.

With the devs already pointing out landfall, only in the late 5th Era do the DominionEmpire finally destroy snow throat at the cost of their entire race being destroy and everyone else turned back into little turned back into little gods.

'''Now lets summerize that- Empire dead and only in the 5th Era do the 3rd army Thalmore finally get recked. What does that mean the rebels held them off till the 5th Era. Thats the end of that. '''

now thats out of the way.

'''How about a war plan since it's clear no matter what that Cyrodill will be a battle ground. Morrowind is a dead state (liturally) and black marsh is a no entery zone. There off the table. Since there are people like Malborne in Valenwood and the Summerset isles there is a rebellion going on down there. '''

'''This is all happening while the Dominions forces are weak after the Great war. They are spreading themselves thin. Thats how many battles now Skyrim, Hammerfell, Cyrodill, Valenwood and the Summerset Isles. The best option at that point in time is just to rebuild Skyrim and Hammerfell. '''

'''Ulfric sent word to High Rock but no news came back, so based on that they are going through some stuff we don't know about. But Eventually Word will come through somewhere. so beyond this point thats up to the devs. '''

Landfall is the only statments we get that the rebellion held them off for a long time and "won" in the sense that all Altmer got destory.