User blog comment:Longdead97/Ulfric's war effort & gaining support. Smart move or no?/@comment-7055753-20130323143058/@comment-6336669-20130329012329

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What is "defeatist"? The Imperials were on the edge of defeat, and again the Elves would have recouped extremely quickly with their new-found province and new soldiers. The Elves are stronger than the Imperial Army, proven in that they were able to get to the stronghold of the very Empire, the seat of the Imperial Council, able to get into the "Throne Room" it was a necessary surrender, as explained above in the other post, they would simply take over. all of Tamriel. "Ripping" apart the Ultimatum deal would basically leave the Imperial race defeated and considering the Imperial Army was openly recruiting whoever, almost conscripting, at the time, which included Bretons, Imperials, Nords, Reguard, (Kajiit?), etc. All those countries would be on the Elven hitlist, going against the "Supreme Elven Overlords".

I play as a Nord in Skyrim, and joining the Stormcloaks is going against just about every Man race out there, fighting your brothers and sisters, going against the way its been for centuries, against a system that does work, unlike the modern real world equivilent.