Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-8248675-20130606043855/@comment-17114085-20140426222854

Well yes as I said above,

''Now that I think about it, this quote mentions Talos. Meaning that Tiber Septim may actually be a mixture of Zurin Arctus and Talos Stormcrown, instead of Hjalti''

Though I tend to doubt it.

Unfortunately, just to make things more confusing, Talos the God was often called Tiber Septim back in Morrowind. This was probably because the idea of Talos being a god was brand-new in that game.

''Tiber Septim (Talos, the Dragonborn): Heir to the Seat of Sundered Kings, Tiber Septim is the most important hero-god of Mankind. He conquered all of Tamriel and ushered in the Third Era (and the Third Empire). Also called Ysmir, 'Dragon of the North'.''

-Varieties of Faith in the Empire See the pain in the ass that this causes. It is just really fricking confusing, things just don't line up.

All of them are both as they are mixtures of the same soul, but they are also seperate, as I said above.

''They are comprised of each other yet seperate. It is similar to the whole aspects concept with gods (Shor = Shezarr = Sheorr = Lorkhan, but they are all seperate)''

Vivec the god and Vivec the mortal are seperate in the same way Talos the god and Talos the mortal are seperate. If you want a closer example to the Talos Enantiomorph you need only look at the Tribunal. The ALMSIVI is an oversoul just like the Talos is, ALMSIVI is one god comprised of three (Vivec, Almalexia, and Sotha Sil), the people who comprise it are obviously still seperate.

To once again emphasize, they are seperate and the same simultaneously.

More proof? The Underking was not a soulless husk despite the fact that his soul was trapped within the mantella, and I'd rather doubt that he was just a haunting as he was able to read, and also write to the player. Not to mention the fact that he was powerful enough to defeat the Numidium. Ok your not getting what I am trying to say. I'm not talking about the God Talos or General Talos. I'm talking about Zurin and Tiber.

See ALMSIVI is an Oversoul but it doesn't interact with Vivec or Almalexia or Sothas Sil. Tiber and Zurin interact, just like they interact with Wulfarth. That is the difference. What I mean by Soulless is something similar to the Vestige. See Zurin and Tiber interact. That is unique, it's not what an Oversoul does to its members. So like I was saying either Zurin gave his soul to Hjalti but remained an independent being or he is not part of Tiber.

No dude, it makes sense, you are just refusing to look past the 'letters' stuff which really don't have much of an effect on what the post is actually for. Fact is I'm not just going to leave out evidence just because it is inconvenient to your argument. The letters are the only thing in the post, that and the names. They aren't in any order that makes sense. The whole thing doesn't make sense. Like you said it lists some Shezarrines but that is all it does. It doesn't mean anything else.