Board Thread:Consensus Track/@comment-1251315-20140808194933/@comment-26474238-20140809155828

Likes-That-Tail wrote: Call me hypocritical, but I find it hypocritical that you're calling someone hypocritical while you're being hypocritical.

Allow me to explain. You are consensusing Jimeee. One of the three active admins (or sysops, whatever) on this site, with the other two being Elchzard and EbonySkyrim. Elchzard was consensused (a failed consensus, might I add) because of what? Breaking the etiquette policy and being rude and condescending? And now Jimeee is being consensused for (PLOT TWIST!) being rude and condescending? Sajuuk, you are perhaps the rudest moderator on chat, and can be quote condescending. When are you bring consensused, hm? I'm being rather condescending right now, where's my consensus? How dare I be so tired of all this drama!

I agree with AutoBlood, the forums and chat are not as important as the mainspace. The forums are important, yeah. I'll give them that. And I think the Forum Moderators are doing a great job, and I appreciate their work. But the majority of forum activity is roleplaying, and roleplaying is irrelevant and does not help the wiki. Same thing with the chat. We don't need a chat room. My job here is to moderate the chat (sorry that if I'm not doing a great job, I'm trying my best to stop all this petty drama), and even I, a chat moderator, feel like the chat is unnecessary. The majority of conversations there are unrelated to the wiki, and unrelated to TES in general. I'm fact, quite a few of the conversations there are rather vulgar, and certain moderators (like myself) are often berated and insulted for doing our jobs (a fellow moderator actually called me fascist for trying to stop the use of homophobic slurs). Quite a few users only roleplay and chat, and that's their choice, and I will respect it. However, if you only roleplay or chat, don't complain about users that actually contribute.

Back on topic, why exactly shouldn't Jimeee be allowed to defend himself? So it doesn't make the thread "biased"? Not letting him state his case makes this thread very biased, as he wouldn't be allowed to explain his reasoning. That's like taking a criminal to court, not not letting him state his case, not letting him have a lawyer, and removing any jurors that disagree with the prosecutor. Seems kinda.. what was it? Biased? Yeah, it's biased. Very biased.

As for saying Jimeee censors users on his talk page, what is this? Kinda hypocritical, huh?

Also, as AutoBlood said, since we're not counting what he's done positively in the past, I refuse to acknowledge anything he's negatively done in the past.

Zipper deserved his block, he has a long history of insulting users, the fact that he was blocked for what he said to me is irrelevant. It was just the straw that broke the camel's back. As for Shawn, I don't know. I can only say that one faulty block is not enough to remove the rights of one of the three active administrators.

This has to be the most biased, one sided, and hypocritical consensuses I've ever seen. This thread was specifically made to show Jimeee in a bad light, just like how Elchzard's was. Zipper did not say that I need to stop "trying to suck up to sysops", he said "Anyway LTT, I am getting really sick of all the Admin ass-kissing you do around here." If we're going to say what people said is different and more polite than how it truly is, then I'd like to say that Jimeee was telling Shockstorm that he has beautiful eyes, and Jimeee then proceeded to give Shockstorm cupcakes. Because after all, we're allowed to change evidence to make our side look right, right?

Due to all the hypocrisy, lying, and utter crap in this thread, I this consensus. If we're taking Jimeee's rights, take my rights. Take Sajuuk's. Take AutoBlood's. He's done nothing worse than what any of us have done.

Call me an ass kisser, call me a suck up, call me fascist, but you all need to stop with this petty drama. If you would all just work together instead of constantly trying to take the rights of admins, this Wiki might actually get something done. I was really debating whether I should bring up the forum creator's recent actions on here, and in a ways, I am glad that you did. It is obvious that they are waging some personal war against either the majority of entirety of the administration here, and is willing to do anything, even break the rules he claims to be upset about, to get his way (including censoring users, falsifying rules, and he even went to another wiki and attempted to tattle on me because I hurt his feelings.)

This forum, amongst others, are completely farcical.