Talk:Marriage (Skyrim)/Archive 1

Revert
The craziness on this article should probably be reverted. I think it goes too far back to undo. At any rate, I'm pretty sure characters can pursue a heterosexual or homosexual marriage. I read it here, not sure how reliable. Also, during the quest with Saadia, the Alik'r man made hints that she had tempted my female character with sex. Just a thought. --Deyvid Petteys 02:31, November 12, 2011 (UTC)

You can pursue homosexual relationships with NPCs.

Source: http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6058/6342627739_d210735bee_b.jpg

--JJustin Tisdale (talk) 05:31, November 14, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe adding to the page that same sex marrage is possible (confirmed with Lydia and a female character, Farkas and a male character)

How is this page NOT a category? Can't link this with individual characters? Please help! Thanks SephirothLaw (talk) 11:32, November 12, 2011 (UTC)

If you can get married then can you get divorced?

The best way to not miss your marriage is to wait in 4 hour periods. Not much will change but you will be their when it starts.

No marriage dialogue
I randomly found an Amulet of Mara in a chest in an inn, and decided to steal it. I put it on, but I don't get any of that dialogue with Lydia. I haven't met the guy that's supposed to sell it though. Maybe I have to do that first?174.51.67.63 06:16, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

Apparently you have to meet a prerequisite for the marriage options to unlock. It'd be nice if they were listed. --Squeegy (talk) 08:20, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

I have the same problem, I went to about 4 females and none of them give me the dialog. 128.227.69.210 19:07, November 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * A bug can occur during the wedding ceremony at the Temple of Mara. After Maramal pronounces the player and the player's NPC of choice married, the NPC may start walking toward the temple's exit before Maramal is done speaking and player can move. If the NPC leaves the temple before the player can speak to him/her about where they will live, then the NPC will disappear. They will reappear if they are part of a quest, like Ysolda in "A Night to Remember".

I had this "Bug" happen to me. The NPC walked out of the temple before the priest was finished speaking, but he didn't just vanish or whatever. The NPC was outside like normal and I could talk to him and discuss our living arrangements there.

Wierd situation involving marriage.... I found an "Amulet of Mara" on a bandit. From what I know you have to get the "Amulet " from Maramal in order to get married. I have the bandit one and it doesnt give me the dialogue option. But maramel will not sell me a new one. How do I get around this and get Married??

Geokujin208.94.87.149 22:14, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

EtA: Geokujin, I had the same problem, ish. I was wearing the Amulet of Mara when I talked to Maramel, but then I took it off and talked him again, and he had it available. Hope that helps!

Just let me clarify something- You HAVE to buy Maramel's Amulet of Mara to get married. Any others might seem the same, but I think a script stops you from getting married without first buying Maramel's Amulet and then wearing that when talking to the person you want to marry. Hope I helped! Superkid3112 (Not logged in, sorry 'bout that!)

Actually person above. I got married using an Amulet I got from a chest. Just had to talk to him about weddings and etc. 64.126.170.21 10:27, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

Marriage to NPC -
So, I've been toting Erik the Slayer (Rorikstead) around as my follower, because I quite like him and hadn't figured out the marriage thing. So I found out about it, got the Amulet of Mara, and keep looking at him expectantly, but it doesn't trigger. I have a quest pending for Balimund the blacksmith in Riften, and I can't get the marriage dialogue to trigger for him either.

Help? Is this a bug with just Erik, or overall? I'm at level 28 and haven't gone to Whiterun (main quest) yet, if that helps.

You usually have to do some sort of quest for each person to be able to marry them. So you need to finish Balimund's quest to get the marriage dialogue from him. As for Erik, I have no clue. I'd like to figure out what you have to do to marry followers as well. I've had Lydia following me constantly (I don't want to marry her, but I know she can be married) and the option hasn't come up yet with her. According to Lydia's talk page, there is a rumor that there is some sort of randomly triggered quest. So maybe the same is true for Erik (if true at all) Soledestiny (talk) 17:56, November 14, 2011 (UTC)

Well, that sort of makes sense, the randomly triggered quest, but I don't think that's the case. I reverted back to a really early save, where I had Roggi Knot-Beard as my follower. I dragged him to Riften, bought the Amulet from Muramel, turned around, talked to Roggi, and he had the marriage dialogue ("Interested in me, are you?").

If it makes a difference, I didn't buy the Amulet of Mara the first time I spoke to Muramel. I couldn't find him again, left it be, and went about my business for a great many game hours. Somewhere somehow along the way I came across an Amulet of Mara, and put it on. Talked to Erik - nada. Went back to Riften, managed to find Muramel, bought the Amulet again, put it on, talked to Erik, again nada.

Not sure if that makes a difference, lol.

Can Somone add in pictures for all the women you can marry on this page? It be nice to get a good look at whose available instead of having to click a link to see each and every one.

Can you marry more than once?
My spouse 'died', and I want to marry again, is this possible? King Ratcliffe (talk) 17:10, November 14, 2011 (UTC)

Still need help on this!King Ratcliffe (talk) 17:58, November 14, 2011 (UTC) ta

Having the same issue, seems to be a bug wherein if your spouse dies you cannot remarry, and using the console command 'addfac 19809 1' doesn't work - Pen

I too, am having difficulty, My spouse died in battle with a dragon as my follower. (Farkas) I am Unable to marry again I believe. Though, everytime I relieve a Follower, They Comment with " I'll Be At Home If You Need Me."

Not so sure on what to do.(PS3) ~Anya Morrowind.

Unfortunately, I don't think the marriage quest resets when a spouse dies. I had to reset it via console command after my wife's mysterious death, so if you're on PS3 or Xbox you may be out of luck. -Lothar of the Hill People|

Aww.., well my spouse Vorstag was killed too.. By Vokun.. All there was left, was a pile of ash.. :( Kinda rediculous that I can't get married again.. hmm. Pity for me then.. - Lotte ~Nienna Elensar~

I'm having the same problem, but i'm on Xbox and I killed my wife on purpose just for fun. Wish I hadn't now!! - JW64

Because of the new update, I was able to marry Lydia. I also had her as my follower, so I gave her full wolf armor and Wuuthrad. Now her dead body is lying somewhere in Blackreach... and now the legendary battleaxe Wuuthrad, weapon of Ysgramor himself, is lying in there with her!!! Oh yeah, I also can't figure out how to marry again... Matthew Robinson 14:36, April 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * Let's keep this short: you can marry only once. You can't divorce, and when he/she dies you can't remarry. Longer version: you can remarry, if you set yourself unmarried with console commands. Don't know the exact command though. --Thekorot (talk) 13:02, April 19, 2012 (UTC)

Poligamy?
Poligamy? Like in Fable, is it possible to have several wives in different towns?

68.239.61.241 02:11, November 16, 2011 (UTC)Ash

I don't believe so but i think you can remarry. Zombie says BLARG 19:32, November 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * Nope, you can marry only once, throughout the entire game. Even if your spouse dies, you can't marry someone else. --Thekorot (talk) 13:00, April 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * Actually I was just wondering about that because I proposed to Ria and I still have to go to Maramal, but I just talked to Njada Stone-Arm right next to her and I can also propose to her. So I proposed to 2 people and I'm not sure of the consequences yet. Matthew Robinson 15:35, December 23, 2012 (UTC)

MARRY Camilla she gives you $$ often
If you marry Camilla Valerious from Riverwood she will reward you with a cut of her profits from the store she owns. im not sure if othe NPC offer this or not. But i have made well over 6000 gold in the last few days. i believe it is 100g every 24 hours and you can let them add up as long as you want. She just gave me 1800 before this post. Also not sure if you get married to a merchant that has a high profit store that you will get more $. I am tempted to get a divorce and seek out a sucker in solitude.


 * I believe that no matter who you marry, they will open a store in your house and give you 100 gold per day.Atallison (talk) 18:18, November 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * As the article says most people you marry will give you 100 gold per day which stacks per day so after 18 days youll get 1800 gold on average. Zombie says BLARG 19:35, November 24, 2011 (UTC)

Requirements for marriage?
There appear to be requirements for all characters to get the marriage line, not sure what any of them are tho maybe delving into the code may help? Its that or there is a major bug preventing some people from getting married.

Im currently trying to get married in riften will try to become a thane see if that helps.

All the available bachlors and bachlorettes require you to complete a task or quest for them before they express intrest in you, which may or may not take awhile depending who it is. For example, Borghak will marry you if you pay her dowry or convince her to leave her home whereas Aela will marry you only after you've completed the entire Champions story arc. 173.59.188.120 08:38, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

And what excatly can be done in Grelka's case? she's bachlorette too LOL

Are all of these confirmed? And if so does someone know if you can marry Ralof? Thanks. Pagan13 (talk) 11:49, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

I've added the requirements for some of the eligible candidates on the main page. These are the ones I can personally confirm. 173.59.188.120 19:01, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

Talking To Your Spouse
Is it just me or is the conversation with your spouse quite dull...

All we can talk about is her store, if she can make me food, and if we want to move.

I hope they add more context because right now its really boring.

— Spence32296 (talk) 21:31, November 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * There's probably a mod for that. But yeah, marriage isn't executed well in Skyrim. --Thekorot (talk) 13:06, April 19, 2012 (UTC)

welll i married with an ugly one wife.... i would love to know how can i divorce....and well... i would love to know if someone is creating some kind of kinky stuff patch to do with your wife.... because its so boring to have one -.-85.246.243.7 22:43, November 19, 2011 (UTC) please answer to [mailto:c_a_salgueiro@hotmail.com c_a_salgueiro@hotmail.com] thx bye


 * You can't divorce 'legally'. You could using console commands, though. As to mods: check this: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/ --Thekorot (talk) 13:06, April 19, 2012 (UTC)

Lydia's Corpse
So Lydia keeps coming to my wedding. That would be fine and all except that she is dead!! Her corpse is lying there as soon as I walk in and the people in the temple tell me to get out! Is there any way around this? I'm on PS3.

I've read that when this happens you can ask for another chance to proceed with the marriage. Before the marriage, move your dead companion(s) to the basement of the Mara Temple. They will still count as being present but no one would know that they're dead. Drag3ndz (talk) 09:04, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

Just to clarify, how would you move her? Fus Ro Dah? the telekinesis spell? El Barto 227 (talk) 13:41, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

Fus Ro Dah would work but could cause the priests to become hostile and cause a bounty. Just holding X on PS3 (or the equivelent on PC or 360) will allow you to pick her up and move her body without encountering any bounty.TheRogueEditor (talk) 13:47, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, yeah, i forgot about that. thank you. that's the same way you would move, say, a bowl sitting on a table etc, right?


 * Yup, same button. --Thekorot (talk) 13:07, April 19, 2012 (UTC)

Idgrod the Younger
Concerning the newest input into the list, Idgrod the Younger (Nord Woman), I would like it verified by the origional source as to how one goes about proposing to her. I delivered a letter for her to Whiterun and although she gives friendly greeting like "It is a fine day with you around" wearing the Mara Amulet from the Temple will not activate a proposal. Do we have to complete the main Morthal Quest "Laid to Rest" in order to fully activate it? She is the daughter of Jarl Idgrod Ravencrone so it seems odd that she would pick and leave with just anyone.

Also, what the hell is with "Sussane the Wicked" and "Being found dead in Blood on the Ice"? Is this a joke?

184.91.52.118 05:55, November 20, 2011 (UTC) Had the same problem with Idgrod the younger, I've completed "laid to Rest" and been made Thane of Morthal as well as completing Idgrod's quest of deliver the letter to Whiterun. All I receive is friendly greetings no marriage proposal or any dialoge options.

I simply forced her using the console then added her as a follower and edited her stats accordingly. I have never seen a "legit" marriage dialog come out of her. I'm not certain why some people consider the console a cheat, though. It's not like marriage to the NPC of your choice gives you any real advantage.


 * Do you get any (text)dialoge with her at all, or just a line of talk? I've done the same and now she doesn't 'text' me at all. However, i guess/hope, maybe we just need to advance the main-quest, as I didn't even get her messager-quest before talking to the greybeards for example. 188.109.21.156 19:08, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

To whomever added the console command to edit the relationship rank
You are a god amongst men, and I thank you. 165.95.45.59 15:44, November 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * I have a video detailing the use of this code to fix some of the bugs (and to mess about marrying random NPCs) it also has annotations regarding the use of "setplayerrelationshiprank" to increase your disposition with any NPC and marry them. Some NPCs refuse to be married regardless of disposition and inclusion in the faction. Like Tullius and Ulfric, and Daedric princes. And seemingly Legate Rikke, but anyone you can get into a conversation with is fair game. Not tried a Khajit or Bosmer yet (since they don't have any normally marriable NPCs, their voice banks may not have the option to marry, and the dialogue might not show up at all)


 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enwWiuzyC4w


 * I can add it to the main page if it's worth it. Canazza (talk) 18:58, November 20, 2011 (UTC)

I managed to marry Legate Rikke but it's not really worth the effort. There's quite a bit of console work involved in it. I would add that I did it AFTER the completion of the Civil War storyline as she is an essential character to that story. It seems you can marry Jarl Elisef the Fair at any point during the game with no adverse story impact.

Funny forced marriages
Has anyone tried any amusing marriages with the force command? C'mon, I can't be the first person to think of marrying M'aiq... Nymphonomicon (talk) 19:40, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

as I found out here You can't marry Khajits. I don't think they have their voices recorded, or they just plain don't have the option coded in. Canazza (talk) 19:49, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure it's a coding issue. I saw plenty of instances in Fallout 3/NV and Oblivion where people inserted text dialogue in with mods to make characters "say" things that there was no voice for. Nymphonomicon (talk) 17:43, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

As far as I know, there are NO MARRIABLE KHAJITS in Skyrim. This is because of tthe fact that all Khajit characters in the game are either enemies (Bandits, etc.), random encounters (M'aiq, etc.), or members of the trading caravans. There may be exceptions, but even if there are, I don't think any of them are marriable.

Actually, the caravan guard khajit can be married if you extract the sound files from another race and just rename the race part, not sure about others but tested it with my wood elf archer char and it worked (its kinda like the bug with Esbern not letting you trough his door in the Ratway).

To answer your question, one of m'aiq's lines in skyrim says something about his father being named m'aiq, and his father's father, and so on. So, it's not the same guy, he just has the same name. Kind of like 95% of the characters in the Legend of Zelda games. Tehruefulaxe (talk) 02:40, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Lami?
A day or two ago someone added the NPC Lami from Morthal as a marriage possiblity. I'd like to state that I've found this to be totally false, because she is not only married, but the quest that was mentioned with her appears not to exist. Can anyone actually confirm that they've married her without the console?

As bleak as it may seem, I'm thinking that the NPCs listed in the official strategy guide are the only NPCs we can marry without cheats. So, if it does so happen that someone discovers a marry-able NPC who isn't on the list, they should post it in the talk section for confirmation before actually editing the page.

Remarriage
You can remarry! Follow the steps listed here:

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2242491

There are no steps required to remarry only that you kill your spouse silently (meaning sneak attack with no witnesses). If the required steps are taken, a courier will give you a letter and some money to help you grieve of your recently passed away wife. You can now initiate a new marriage.

Note: killing your wife is a simple method to make your ebony blade (deadric artifact) more powerfull as there are allot of useless spouses (spouses with no particular skill).


 * I found this far easier: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whY7yM31DJI

Wearing the Amulet
Do I have to leave the amulet on? It does nothing for me, skill-wise. I want to wear my frickin' Amulet of Talos! Do I have to just keep the Amulet of Mara in my inventory? I know "divorce" happens when you sell/drop the amulet (according to the wiki) and I don't want that!

No, you don't have to wear it. 68.230.57.253 00:09, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

Remarriage for Console Players
Is remarrying after killing your spouse simply impossible for console players (specifically 360)? I tried the method of removing the Amulet from my inventory (by planting it on my wife's corpse, which conveniently despawned), and started the Temple of Mara quest. I got the Amulet and promptly ditched the quest to go chat up Muiri, then Sylgja; neither option worked. Does the quest need to be finished for this Amulet of Mara to work properly, or are console players just screwed until this is patched (which apparently won't be any time soon)?

I've heard that about one in-game month after the spouse's death, a courier will show up with your inheritance, at which point you can marry again. True or False?  Captain Baird  Comm-LinkService Record 02:47, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

I just tried this. I managed to get my wife killed by some daedra then waited 31 days and then ran around for another few days and no courier ever showed up. So for me, False. (I wanted to marry Aela the Huntress dangit!)97.114.85.188 08:27, December 1, 2011 (UTC)Cgod05

I have have used this method of remarriage on xbox 360 and it does work however you need to have a useless/skillless spouse and be married to them over one month and let them die of natural causes or silent kill I have used this method round about 15 to 20 times it works. cheers! (Lord TerrorFreeze) april 14 2012 12:45p.m.

Did Bethesda Drop the Marriage Ball?
Anyone else feel that Bethesda dropped the ball with marriage? I mean....is it really too much to ask for (at the VERY least) 2 NPCs of each race to marry (one male, the other female)? It just seems to me that if you were going to advertise marriage as a big thing in your game, and even include same-sex marriages, you would put in an option for every race and every gender. It just seems a bit silly to me to have a khajiit marry an orc, or a nord marry a dark elf, but a khajiit can't marry another khajiit, or a wood elf can't marry another wood elf (I personally hate wood elves, but that's just me). I'm honestly hoping that Bethesda will add more options, or even make some existing characters able to marry. From the moment I met J'zargo, I fell in love with him.

Come on, Bethesda, pick up the slack! At least give us the bare minimum options, and don't hold back and skimp us.Furlock (talk) 15:04, November 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * How much did they "advertise" this and how much was it various press outlets making a big deal about it? Tyrasis (talk) 09:10, December 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * I guess next there's going to be clamor for a sex-patch? Ridiculous. In Fable marriage is mostly useless and a little annoying, sex is amusing (gang-bangs with cross-dressing, disease-riddled prostitutes??) but completely without satifaction...

Infighting
Be careful when dropping weapons & armor inside your home if you have a housecarl. Your spouse and housecarl may begin fighting over it indefinetly as they cannot kill each other.

Marriage should be improved
As everyone knows, marriage in Skyrim is extremy bland and rather pointless(some people would argue that's how it is in real life aswell :p)

All jokes aside(you gotta admit, that was a good one), I hope in one of the DLC's Bethesda actually give marriage more depth. I love Sylgja and all, but I'm tired of constantly hearing her call me "My love". All she's useful for is selling items too and getting 100 gold a day. If that was all I wanted I would have married the Orc.

PC users will have no problem with this as there will undoubtfully be mods which add lots more depth to marriage, as in proper dialogue, and maybe some couple animations. Us console users will have to rely on Bethesda to actually get their finger out and actually add this stuff for us. I mean i'm a guy, but even I wouldn't mind seeing some snogging nd cuddling once in a while, maybe even kids of our own to raise(I envy you PC users >.<)

I surely can't be the only person who thinks like this? By god even Fable has more depth to marriage then this, and thats saying something.

Jonathan28 (talk) 22:46, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Shouldn't you be out slaying dragons or something?

Lol, from above, but really, marriage is bland and boring. I married Muiri, and her usual converstion with me is as follows:"Thanks for solving my...prombelm.

"Has the store made and money?"

And then I get the money blah blah blah. You can't even divorce, and too be honest bethesda was a let down on marriage.

Suggestions for future patches or mods?
I want Elisif the Fair to be a candidate for marriage. The Dragornborn has a pretty good claim to be the Emporer of Tamriel, I don't see why he/she can't marry the legitimate High Queen of Skyrim, even if she is recently widowed.

To be honest, while I do agree that the Dragonborn should be allowed to become Emperor(hopefully a future DLC will make this possible), marrying Elisif the Fair wouldn't really improve your chances. She is a Nord, and I doubt Cyrodiil would accept a Nord Emperoress, not after the Civil War.

I don't think that becoming the Emperor/ Empress would make game-play follow any sort of logic or story. While yes, I think a female player should have been able to, eh-hem, continue the Septim line in Oblivion (Martin was hot) and I think that the Dragonborn could (potentially) save the Empire but really, what happens to the game-play then?

Jonathan28 (talk) 12:52, December 8, 2011 (UTC)

Newly inroduced? It's unclear: was it introduced with a new patch? Or did somebody mean it's a feature not present in the previous ES games? Please clarify. --24.3.19.202 03:28, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

They should allow you to marry Ralof, Hadover and Lydia.

lydia is now single. she won't stop stalking me. i like the idea of a child, BUT nine in-game months is still a long time lol, especially if you use a female character. pregnancy plus fighting = not a good idea. and children would probably cause trouble for people with saves that have same-sex marriages, as there is no "divorce" option other than sneak attacks without witnessess or using console commands. and killing spouses is just crruel.

Crazy Deaths and/or Inheritances
I was married to Benor, and the first quest I ever had him follow me on (Taking a fort for the Imperial Legion) was going well. I wanted to keep him safe, so I told him to go home. Fast forward through the awesome slaying of the Stormcloaks...I was in Solitude, and a courier comes up to me to tell me Benor DIED. Yep...Died. Dead. So Lame. I sent the guy home and somehow, on the way he kicked the bucket. Good news: I got 400 gold off him for my inheritance. Still... StarlinSkyrim (talk) 20:29, December 10, 2011 (UTC)StarlinSkyrim

Dressing up your Spouse (PS3/360)
Did the new patch sorta make this impossible or something? I had read before that you could give any follower spouse better armor than their default, then buy their original armor from their store and then you could just put whatever you wanted on them. I just tried to with Aela and one of the Orc spouses and as soon as you take off the chest piece, their whole set of armor respawns on them. You can get away with the hands and feet, but taking the chest piece causes the whole thing to appear again on them, making it all useless... Hell Aela respawns TWO sets of nord hero armor... Is it just not possible now or am I missing some steps?--190.43.239.27 03:36, December 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * I think you have to leave a piece of there original armor with on them so they don&apos;t respawn it. I&apos;ve yet to marry any of my characters off yet so I&apos;m not sure about this. Hope this helps. Alpha Wolf-87 (talk) 18:11, December 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * I&apos;ve experienced this issue as well. However I did have some luck on a 100 skill level Pickpocket, with a Follower husband. Take the talent that lets you steal equipped items, and remove their clothing. If they don&apos;t report you to the guards, open up the trade with them, and put the desired items into their inventory. They should equip them automatically. It&apos;s 50/50 on whether or not they spawn new armor though.
 * I married Farkas and when I had him follow and carry things for me, he would (usually) put the better rated armor. Decided i liked the play-dress-up game :) and switched a few things out...I got irritated at his encumbrance maxing out though so I bought his original armor through the store and found that you can remove all but one piece. Once you remove the final piece it will respawn the whole set and then you&apos;re out what you spent, plus your back to spouse carrying all that heavy metal around. I have left his Steel Nordic Gauntlets on and replaced the whole rest of the set. Hope that helps! OH ALSO - I enchanted fortify carry weight items and they worked for him, which I think is handy.
 * I have tried to reverse pickpocket her (Senna) different kind of armors but she doesn&apos;t wear them. I also have the perk which allows me to steal equipped items but it doesn&apos;t show up the Monk Robes in her inventory so I can&apos;t steal it. She will equip the Daedric sword but not any armor/clothing. Any way around this? I would want to see her face. Ozea (talk) 09:02, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

Console Remarriage?
Is there any to remarry if playing on a console? (I own the game for PS3 and my spouse was murdered by a thief)

Spouse Merchant?
Do you have to relocate them to your house? If you marry Ysolda or other ncp do you have to move houses for them to open shop and if so does it have to be a differennt city Exp. Moving Ysolda to Breezehome = she opens a shop. Tbone11 (talk) 22:31, December 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure you have to move them to your house. The in-game reason for them opening the shop is, essentially, boredom. Tyrasis (talk) 06:37, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Typo:

Since the page is locked I can't just fix it. It's "alludes" not "eludes". Allude means refer to. Elude means evade.

75.27.144.74 15:14, January 2, 2012 (UTC) Smiley

Ysolda gives me money her shop and she's never moved. But I can't buy and sell her stuff. Princedaniel07 (talk) 10:07, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

New marriage bug on patch 1.3.1
Everytime I try to get married, a random Bandit shows at my wedding, become agressive, and then everyone starts hating me and no marriage.

I managed to get married once on version 1.2, but my wife died.. (hit by a lighthing bolt from call storm shout)

I used the "reset marriage" tutorial that I found on this very page, (the one from steam forums) and I could propose again to other people, but I never get to complete my wedding again because of bandits crashing my party. I'm uploading a video, will post here when it is ready. Anyone had this issue? 189.32.209.198 23:51, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

there http://youtu.be/-VANR81hsGE 189.32.209.198 01:42, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

If you stole from the temple, Mar-whoever hires banits to kill you at your wedding. 1234

My wife has disappeared
Hey, My wife camilla disappeared and I can't find her and I can't find her store what do I do and where could I find her store at someone plz help me?Aaron Kramer (talk) 19:14, January 5, 2012 (UTC)Aaron K.

Try this in console:
prid 13488

moveto player

This should move her you. If you can't see her, make sure her character is enabled and not dead:

enable

resurrect 1

If she doesn't appear at all for some reason, you can simply spawn her:

player.placeatme 13488

Good luck! Kylljoi (talk) 10:30, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

no marriage dialogue
hello! so im trying to marry my follower kharjo (cat race) and ive done all of the quests pertaining to love and have spoken to the priest guy about marriage. However, even though I have spoken to the guy, done all the quests, and have the necklace I dont seem to have any dialogue pertaining to marriage (proposing). Are there only certain people you can propose to? Help!!
 * Hey there! I'm very sorry to break it to you, but Kharjo is not a marriage option in Skyrim. Only certain people can be married. Unfortunately, no Khajiits can be married. You may, however, be able to force-married upon him, if you're on PC, through the use of Console commands, but this may permanently bug, and thus ruin, your game. --— Deyvid Petteys  (bother \  stalk)  06:38, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

Maramal dissapears from the game
At one point it happened to me that Maramal 'dissapeared'. I reasoned that he either died, or dissapeared. It might also be because I had killed that other follower of Mara at Dawnstar. Another important detail is that I had talked to Maramal at the very start of the game, but couldn't buy his amulet just yet then (insufficient funds).

After some research; everyone told me that he is either at the Inn, or at the temple. but I couldn't find him at any of those places or in Riften for that matter. When I had to ask him to marry Grelka to me, there was an arrow pointing straight into Riften's wall (and declaring that Maramal is 'in the area'). So conclusion was that Maramal was disintegrated into Riften's defence. Alas this meant that I could not get married.

luckily, you can do the following:

1) Go to the temple of mara

2) Open the console (~)

3) click on yourself with a simple mouseclick

4) type "Help Maramal 4"

5) you'll get a list, and at the bottom you see the code for Maramal next to "NPC_" which is for me 0001335B (but on another website it was 00019DD5)

6) type "player.placeatme 0001335B" (or the code that you saw in your console window)

7) et voila, you got him back

some unlucky fellow apparently got him killed. if that happens you can use the code "resurrect 0001335B", "player.placeatme 0001335B" and eventually "enable 0001335B"

Maramal doesn't like me
I went to get married(on PC by the way), and for some reason, when i was waiting for the attendants, Brother Verulus respawned dead inside the temple next to the door. For some reason, it made my marriage quest failed, and now I can't talk to Maramal without him telling me to "Get out". I have use the resetquest console prompt, but I still can't initiate his quest dialogue. 123.2.148.125 22:23, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Another Divorce
Originally I had this paragraph under a subtitle "Perfect Divorce", but then I realized it's not that perfect. It's just a variation, sort of combination of all three options I tested. That's how it works:

select your spouse and print in the console:

completequest 0007431B

resetquest 0007431B

resetquest 00021382

setrelationshiprank player 4

SetStage RelationshipMarriage 10

Then take off your Amulet of Mara and wait for 24 hours. After that you'll be able to remarry, and your former spouse won't hate you. If you want to remarry your former spouse, select them in the console and kill, then resurrect 1, and you'll get the dialogue option when talking to them. Kylljoi (talk) 11:55, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Multiple spouses?
I read a story by someone somehwere how they, because of a bug, married two characters in Skyrim. Well, who wouldn't want a harem? Anyway, it should be possible via console commands, but does anybody have any idea, what they're supposed to be? If anybody does, I think it should be added to the Marriage page. Jekyll Grim Payne (talk) 12:50, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

My wife aela the huntress started to attack me so i unforunatley had to kill her, is there any other way to re marry someone because the people ive helped ive talked to them with the amulet of mara on but they dont have any marriage diolouge

Battle for Whiterun Glitch
If you join the Stormcloak Rebellion, when you take part in the battle for Whiterun, if you are married by the time you do this quest, your spouse will temporarily disappear if her home is Breezehome, although Lydia (if you still have her) will still be in the house and so available during this quest.

87.114.198.66 12:46, February 16, 2012 (UTC)

No time for courting?
I wish there were better options for male candidates, who wouldn't want a Kajiit as a bedwarmer? Most of the female options were far better than the males. I married Vilkas in my first game, but lost those files due to a broken xbox ... Anywho, I started a new game and I am hoping for more marriable choices (like Lod the blacksmith) in some awesome future DLC or something.

Too bad Skyrim isn't like Fable 2 or 3 where you can just court anyone you want to marry. Other than for making money or enchanting, what is the point of all the jewelry we make? Why not make them into gifts for courting. I feel that courting would make marriage more worthy and ... meaningfull, instead of "Thanks for the frost salts, you may now marry me." I think I worked harder on earning someone's trust in Oblivion than getting a spouse in Skyrim.

On another note, it is a pity you can't dress your female followers in the tavern clothes.

Monems (talk) 17:07, March 8, 2012 (UTC) Momo

Marriage
I got married to the riverwood trader girl and i killled her and her brother... i want to marry Njada in the camapnions guild... HELLP PLZ!!

The only way you can get married again is through console commands or a mod. 23:52, March 17, 2012 (UTC)

Not entirely true, If your spouse dies you can just go to Maramal again and ask for another wedding THAN USING CONSOLE COMMANDS.

More marriage options, downloadable pack?
Wouldn't it be nice if they had a downloadable pack for the PS3 and XBOX to have more marriage options? Well I'm thinking PC doesn't need one since most people who use PCs just use the consol commands to force a Marriage and that they boast to PS3 and XBOX users that they can use console commands and we can't?

not al PC users are modders or use commands. and both of those can cause problems and break saves. i see your point, and i think it would be nice to get improved marriage system DLCs, BUT its not fair to only give it to two platforms. if that happens, why not just exclude PS3 from receiving Dawnguard? and I'm sure Xbox users won't mind missing out on Horse Armour.

in regards to console commands, i agree. CC's are annoying to console user because of PC users boasting (im a PC use,r and i find boasting about using console commands annoying. so what if you can type? so can everyone else).

for a small revenge, XBOX and PS3 users can boast that they dont have to worry about performance issues, they can laugh at the PC users with crap pcs. El Barto 227 (talk) 01:03, April 17, 2012 (UTC)

Maramal just stands there, annoying the hell out of me!
For some reason, when I was trying to marry Uthgerd of Whiterun today, Maramal didn't want to start the marriage conversation! Uthgerd and I were standing in front of his altar but all he did was repeating his line "May Mara be with you" (or some other random BS) indefinitely until it said "your marriage has failed". What the hell is going on? I had to use console cheats (setstage) in order to successfully marry her... am I the only one for whom Maramal doesn't seem to ever start that annoying dialogue? The exact same BS happened to me in Fallout 3 (Rivet City, marriage of Angela and Diego) all the time, too! Maybe the reason for this is that I'm not married in real life? :-)nv4_disp.dll - The device driver got stuck in a bugged infinite loop. Here we go again. 22:57, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

You've got to pickpocket the low chest in front of so that the guards arrest you. You will have to pay 5 septims and you'll be transported to the keep, then go back to the temple and marry.

Why no khajiit?
i was looking throught the list of spouses and i noteced that their are no male OR female khajiits what gives bethesda?CTofMonteCristo (talk) 15:58, March 25, 2012 (UTC)CTofMonteCristo

-->theres a book that you can find about the species, and it says that mer and men can interbreed, but they cannot breed with khajiit or argonian. im guessing this is why you cant marry them.

Trivia with Lydia
Right now it says

"It is not possible to marry Lydia in-game without the use of console commands. She is however, intended to be a marriage candidate, which is confirmed by looking at the data file, (Skyrim.esm). Can we just make it read easier with the update?
 * (Lydia's marriage option is fixed in Beta 1.5)."

"Marriage with Lydia wasn't possible without console commands until the option was added in the Beta 1.5 update."

I'd say the subject should be thrown out completely if it weren't a trivia section. 71.212.54.20 19:18, April 4, 2012 (UTC)

Lover's Comfort buff on PS3
My experience with the Lover's Comfort buff problem was this: I told Sylgja to go to my house (Breezehome) after the marriage ceremony. She did. I did not receive the Lover's Comfort buff when sleeping in the bed. I told her to move to her house, and she did. I had to pick the lock to get in her house. I told her to move back to my Whiterun house, and when she finally got back there, I was able to get the buff when sleeping in the bed. I had the same experience with Ysolda on a completely different save and different character. Exitwound 45 (talk) 07:21, April 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * Shouldn't she be sleeping in the same bed as yours to get the bonus? Perhaps that's why you didn't get it at first. --Thekorot (talk) 17:13, April 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * Also, the lover's comfort buff doesn't work if you have the Lover's Stone activated. -- Rhiko28

Merchant spouse question
I just married Balimund in Riften. I'd like to have us live in Honeyside (once I get rid of Iona the Stalker) but I'm afraid that if I do that, he'll stop being a smith and will just sit around all day. Is there any way to have your spouse move in but keep their existing property? Rosenoire (talk) 01:23, April 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * Wherever you put him, he'll keep his store. You can move him to Solitude or Whiterun no problem and his store will still be available. And isn't Iona the craziest of all followers? Haflinger (talk) 23:45, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

Message to all contributers to Marriage
OK, i just did another edit to this page. why? some simple mistakes, anyone could easily make:

When refering to the player character (The Dragonborn), DO NOT use his or her, or treat them as male or female. as the player can be either, try to refer to them as with another term eg "they" "his/her" "he/she" (note: these last two mean literally he/she", not "he" or "she" etc) "the player" the dragonborn" etc.

the same goes for spouses. don't assume that every player marries females in every save. only refer to them by gender if you are speaking about a certain NPC (eg Aela The Huntress), and be sure to clarify who it is you are speaking about (altough referring to specific NPCs would mostly occur in the Bugs and Trivia sections). Currently, the Married Life section is a great example, but the first few sections were inconsistent. i have fixed this (i hope), but keep this in mind for future edits. that is all, thank you for reading this. El Barto 227 (talk) 11:50, April 17, 2012 (UTC)

changes for this
The marriage for khajiit can actually happen, and have tested this while playing kahjiit. Someone unlock this and change that.--173.86.92.38 01:01, May 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * A Khajiit player can indeed mary. The point was however, that there are no Khajiit NPC's that can be married by anyone, Khajiit or otherwise. --Thekorot (talk) 17:43, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

Lost spouses??
KhajiitPoe (talk) 05:16, May 13, 2012 (UTC)Alrighty. I'm MARRIED!! Whoo hoo!! So. I married Vilkas... The minute I walked through the Companion's doorway, He commented on my not being married... Well. It's really weird that I'm not married to another Khajiit seeing as how I am one myself. But I can make due until they solve this problem.. That is if it is a problem. Anyway....I married, and my husband has disappeared on me... He walked out of the Temple and now he is gone. Second thoughts maybe?? Could feet?? Some one who was jealous and killed him?? I don't know..


 * You married Vilkas, right? Anyway, after the 'I now pronounce you husband and wife' thing he should ask you where the two of you want to live: his home or (one of) your home(s). His home is Jorrvaskr, BTW. So search Jorrvaskr and/or all of your homes. That's where you should find him. --Thekorot (talk) 09:46, May 13, 2012 (UTC)

Bizarre Bug after Console-Forced marriage to Ingun Black-Briar
A bizarre thing has happened to me -- I went through the ceremony with Ingun, but she never had any of the "married" dialogue options (no choice to move her around, etc), and now the priests at the temple of Mara are constantly bugged, saying "Congratulations on your wedding!" Additionally, I cannot remarry. I've tried marrying other people, doing all the console commands listed on this page, etc, but nothing seems to work.

My guess is that something in the marriage script glitched so that I'm stuck where the game thinks I'm about to be married, but there's no time limit, and nothing will happen in the temple of mara. Any ideas how to fix this? 68.230.57.253 07:42, May 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * Reload a previous save perhaps? --Thekorot (talk) 15:40, May 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * That would be a waste of nearly 10 hours of gameplay. 68.230.57.253 17:33, May 15, 2012 (UTC)0
 * :You played 10h with a bugged marriage? Anyway, that's the only solution I can think of right now, unless there is some console command to force the marriage to continue... --Thekorot (talk) 18:24, May 15, 2012 (UTC)

On the main marraige page in the "bugs" section, it says that Aela doesn't Speak with a voice when you go to ask to trade items, but I found out (on XBOX) that she does, is this a glitch? 'Cause for me this game have been freezing on me and glitched on someother quests, so...

new candidates in Dawnguard?
I´m a curious Khajiit, any 360 player able to say if any new NPC added in Dawnguard is a marriage candidate?

83.183.213.64 12:46, July 6, 2012 (UTC)

Divorce on 360
I want to marry someone else on xbox 360.If my wife died, can I marry someone else? 1234

Can We have a Sorted by Race List?

Hutchy

Who comes to your wedding ceremony?
Is there any indication of how the game decides who the guests at your wedding are? I tried it with a character who was the Archmage of the College of Winterhold, and only three people turned up: Mjoll the Lioness, Eola from the Namira quest, and Hemming Black-Briar. 144.132.103.189 06:40, July 20, 2012 (UTC)

Naked spouse/follower
I had my Dragonborn marry a follower, and I equipped armor on this follower. After parting ways with the follower and upon entering the Dragonborn's house, I found that they wore their gauntlets and boots, but not their armor. I tried joining them to my party, reequpping them, and then parting ways, but it didn't work. Has anyone else had this problem and solved it?

Recommended page Edit -- Moth Gro-Bagol
Moth gro-Bagol can be married if you give him one daedra heart

I would Know, I accidentally married him in my first Playthrough

220.237.1.187 07:06, July 30, 2012 (UTC)

A spirit in the Temple of Mara
Just delete this thing i've thought the spirit was part of vanilla, but he was a mod extra.

I met myself at the marriege armor and all he seems to be funcening as a replacement for fendale after he died in the boithea quest no im serious I have save where his in its quite wierd oh and no you cant fight him nor can you hit him i dont know if its a glicht or somthing to do with the mods im using.

Confirmed is spelled "confermed" at the bottom of the page in the bugs section. This section also contains other grammatical errors.

Store...
The spouse says she/he is going to open a store. Is that an actual store you can go to or does it just mean she/he will act as a vendor?

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From my experience, your spouse doesn't leave the house and will act as a vendor for you to buy and sell goods from, as well as giving you $100 per day from the store. To access the store, talk to your spouse and you will find a store option in the dialogue options box. This can also be accessed any time if your follower goes with you on the world map. Rhiko28 (talk) 02:29, August 10, 2012 (UTC) Rhiko28=====

Possible Article Addition: " Marriage Options Cut From the Game Before Release"
There are a number of potential marriage options cut from the game that still have related date included (but disabled) in the game files. Many of the ones that were cut seem to be ones that would have involved quite a bit more content to be added as they are more noteworthy in the game world, and it wouldn't make sense for NPCs to ignore the fact that they were married to the PC. Among those characters who seem to have been cut at some point in development are Vivienne Onis, Ingun Black-Briar, and Elisif the Fair.

I tried to write the above in such a way that it could be dropped into the article with few if any changes (aside from the header). It'd be nice if a more comprehesive list could be compiled at some point, maybe the modding community could take a look at the affected characters and find some way to complete and enable some of them. Ingun and Elisif would probably require too many changes, but Vivienne is ivolved in so few quest she might prove rather simple (removing her from Victoria Vicci's wedding for example). ClonePatrol (talk) 01:21, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Breaking an Engagement
I'd like to add this tip to the article, since I and I'm sure others who don't want to tweak the original game too much (by having multiple spouses) made the mistake of getting too far into the quest chain before realizing that some characters might be better to wed than others. I wanted out of my engagement, but couldn't figure out how to change my partner before the wedding. The advice currently in the article didn't work at all for me, whether I was married or not. These steps below, however, did work, so I wanted to share it. :::::::

To break off an engagement after setting an appointment with Maramal, all you have to do is avoid going near the Temple (or failing the quest), open your console, and enter:

resetquest 0007404e resetquest 00074793

This will put you in a state where you can choose a new partner and not launch the temple event when you enter the temple.

You must speak to Maramal and go through the "I wanted to know more about" dialogue before your chosen partner will "stick". The dialogue option is there on maritable characters whether you've spoken to Maramal or not, but you must get engaged again after doing so if you want to see the rest of Maramal's dialogue that allows you to ask him to get married at the temple. Speak to the person you want to marry while wearing your amulet and get engaged Return to Maramal to restart the Wedding Ceremony quest. Complete the quest with the partner you really want.

Libellus (talk) 22:01, September 9, 2012 (UTC)

Hearthfire-added dialogue not added for all voice sets?
I don't want to alter the article, I'm not even sure if this should be added to it- and it should probably be confirmed by others as well. But I've found that the dialogue about children isn't added to all potential spouses- some voice sets miss the two dialogue options, one about needing to move somewhere with space for the children (immediately after the ceremony) and the other giving you the option to ask how the children are doing. It doesn't seem to be how common the voice set is, either- of the ones I have experimented with, one of the least common ones DID have the dialogue show up, whereas one of the common ones didn't.

Anyway, I'm not sure if this belongs in the article or not. But I'd be interested to hear thoughts and experiences from other people. 86.145.242.3 13:40, October 1, 2012 (UTC)

i married the orc smith lady and dravynea both for the purpose of getting ree training, but cant get into thier inventoroies, theres no option for it, and ive heard you can do this so what happened?

Adelaisa Vendicci - The Missing Spouse?
Adelaisa Vendicci isnt mentioned at all on this page? She is an available spouse, i just checked. :ll - VaughanTES (talk) 15:58, October 4, 2012 (UTC)

A note should be added to this article, to indicate if there has been any changes (new marriage candidates) due to Dawnguard or Hearthfire.

Bug?
Bug?

For some reason, when i wear the amulet or mara nobody realises it! I tried to propose to lydia but the option never comes up.Ive tried it with other eligable spouses too but it still didnt work.

67.242.142.210 22:58, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

where did she go?
seriously, I am lost here, anything?
 * ok, so I was prety impressed when I heard that the elder scrolls series was going to try a mariage thing, but then dissapointed when the racial diversity of the mariage options was limitted.
 * I got over it.... kinda', and decided to marry Shahvee; every time I try to marry her she disapeard. some times if I waited for the cerimony, people would be pouring out sayin that they all hated me and stuff, and I go inside to see some dead guy.
 * But, most of the time, she would just dissapear.
 * I want to know what is going on here, to have more marriage options with other races like the Kijhit or whatever there name is( the nord to other ratio is insulting to fans of those specific races), and for one of the developers to actually listen to the complaints of long time fans of this game.
 * any thoughts?67.239.103.32 22:02, November 29, 2012 (UTC)gamesnob