User talk:Ikabite

Aivarstead
No problem! The page is now deleted :) Also, its a default colour for the administrators on the wiki :) If there's anything I can do to help, let me know! Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•Skyrim To-Do List 01:08, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

Lore pages
Good question! I would put Category:Lore and Category:Events on that page. At some point, we may even develop a Category:Lore: Events category, if enough pages could fit under it. Also, remember when you're writing a lore article to include in-text citations for potentially contestable claims. For more information about that, see this article on Wikipedia about it. Or, you could check out some of our lore articles. I know Alisanne Dupre has proper in-text citations. If you have any more questions, don't hesitate to ask. Happy editing! --— Deyvid Petteys  (bother \   stalk)  23:13, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Lore Pages
Nice work with adding those ones so far! (Saves me doing it at a much later date :D) Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•Skyrim To-Do List 23:40, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Per your request
Per your request, I have made sure that the page was deleted. Thank you for highlighting the problem. Commander Faol (talk) 23:04, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

Maps
Thanks, I certainly didn't draw the maps myself - they are from the official game guide, but I did add the legend and fancy borders in photoshop as I found a similar font to the one used in the skyrim menus.

Jimeee (talk) 21:08, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

Hi it's argonbolt sorry i did not leave any links, i found the quote about the two ships from the timeline page. In regards to atmora as a whole i think that there seems to be some confusion over who the last people to leave there were. I mean Talos himself was atmoran, and although i have read songs of return i think it may be from the fact the books were written shortley after the such events and did not there for include any future arrivals. As for the later post freeze visitations i beleive the book http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Twin_Secrets sites a later visitation to Atmora.

Atmora
Hi it's Argonbolt

again sorry for the messy note i am still getting a handle on general stuff like that and am still a little rusty. in regards to the page on both Atmora and Nedes i also found the general information on the dragon lore page helpful in relation to their totem animal worship of the old Nedic god(possibly the same as the forsworn?) any way i will likely edit both pages soon.

Argonbolt 7:00,Feburary 5, 2012 (UTC)

Lore Pages
Just wanted to say ... with regards to a lot of those lore pages that you have been adding: since you had added all the information that can be added about them (and have referenced them properly), if you were to put them up for Good Article nomination, I would be happy to approve that and make them official (because they ARE a good example of what Lore pages should have on them :D) Um - to add them for nomination, simply add at the top of the page Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 16:51, February 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * So far I've been doing things pretty much chaoticly. But recently I've started going through TESII: Daggerfall books. I will keep on adding more lore pages and improving the old ones and I will try to make them the best I can. That means I will try to do things a lot more carefully, I know I've been missing few things, such as proper references and spellchecks. The ones I feel have enaugh content on them will be added to the nomination. (Your code seemed to be broken, sorry for removing it... When I tried to fix it the signature turned to mine, sorry again.)


 * Ikabite (talk) 16:45, February 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * -:: Ooops. Its nearly 3 am here - and i forgot to close the "nowiki" template. So - apologies. I changed your signature to that one above because otherwise it would put my sig there. Anyways ... thats cool :) I mean - most of what I have been reading so far is pretty good. And obviously, nominate the ones that you think are deserving of it, but I definitely think that quite a few of those pages should be listed as Good articles :) (They probably won't ever be "feature articles", but thats more to do with the lack of pretty pictures, and lack of wall-of-text - neither of which are the fault of the lore articles - still, Good Articles are just that, and something that needs to be promoted more on here (currently theres only 30-something listed there (I've got a numbers list of the Featured Articles/nominations and Good Articles listed here: User:Timeoin/Maintenance if you're interested in seeing them. Anyways - good night to you! Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 16:51, February 28, 2012 (UTC) (EDIT: Yep, It did indeed. I saw it but hadnt changed it yes :s)

Lore
Hi there, don't worry about bothering me - im happy to help.

No, there is not a specific lore infobox as most lore articles don't really need one as the article itself is quite short.

Some important characters like Potema Septim use a template from Character infobox templates but these are a bit outdated and came from the wiki merge so we are in the process of fixing and standardising them.

Is there a page you are thinking of adding?

Jimeee (talk) 09:40, May 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * I've been adding many lore pages ever since I joined and some of my early ones are not that well made. I wanted to rework Mantiarco page, to be little bit more specific.


 * Ikabite (talk) 09:46, May 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ok that's great you are helping with the lore pages. I been editing several lore pages myself recently and it would be great to get these pages to get up to standard - several don't even have proper references! Jimeee (talk) 10:00, May 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * I won't be much help. I may show up from time to time, but... Brace yourselves, the finals are coming!
 * Ikabite (talk) 10:03, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

Lore
Looks beautiful. Great formatting! We need more people like you to help fix our lore pages!

Question about Mantiarco - is it confirmed he was High King of Skyrim or just King of Solitude - as Solitute was a independent city state around that time?

Jimeee (talk) 12:55, May 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * Hmm... quick rush through the books and some of the historical events may suggest that the claim may be false. I will fix that right away.


 * Ikabite (talk) 13:05, May 2, 2012 (UTC)

RE:Lore infoboxes
Not sure if you still require this information, but we're currently using outdated infoboxes on Lore pages. We considered creating lore-space infoboxes and adding them to pages, but kicked out the idea because many lore pages aren't likely to require them. Perma-stubs with infoboxes, that type of thing. At any rate, you can read more about the infoboxes we use for lore characters at: SF:WHO?. It's based entirely on the character's race (provided they aren't a half-breeds). Examples are Nord infobox and Dunmer infobox. Hope this helps :D -- 01:28, May 5, 2012 (UTC)

Come back!
Man, we need your help on the wiki! Our Lore pages really need a kick in the ass. Can I bribe you to come back somehow?

Jimeee (talk) 19:55, May 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * I am flattered by your request, unfortunately, I do not have time to write full articles right now. I am still around. I have exams starting next week, first of them being English.


 * Contratulations on your new title as well, Jimeee!


 * Ikabite (talk) 05:05, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
I have reverted the pages and sent a quick message to him. Thanks again. Ysmir was insane!

Jimeee (talk) 22:48, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

Omg
The loremaster is back! Please tell me you're staying this time!

Jimeee (talk) 15:14, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

Atmorans
Hey there. I noticed your concern and posted on the Atmora talk page. Let me know what you think.

Jimeee (talk) 15:42, November 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * This is how i'm reading it, we need to go way back - all life started on Tamriel during the Dawn Era. War broke out between the Old Ehlnofey (ancestors of the Mer who supported Auri-El) and the Wandering Ehlnofey (ancestors of Men who supported Lorkhan). Monomyth mentions Lorkhan created men from lesser spirits to fight for him.


 * This war ended at Convention when Auri-El's knight Trinimac ripped Lorkhan's heart out and Auri-El shot it deep under ground. The war itself was cataclysmic Nirn was flooded.


 * It's believed that the Wandering Ehlnofey (proto-men) managed to conquer the lands of Atmora, Akavir and Yokuda. However, these became isolated after the flood.


 * The Aldmer ended up in Summerset Isles.


 * The Atmorans (Proto-Nords) in Atmora


 * The Yokudans (Proto-Redguards) in Yokuda


 * The Akaviri in Akavir.


 * Some Wandering Ehlnofey remained on Tamriel - they become the Nedes.
 * When the Altmer Direnni clan left Summerset for High Rock they bred with the Nedes of High Rock to found the Breton race.


 * That's why Ysgramor's Companions found early Bretons in High Rock and tribes of Humans in Cyrodiil. When they invaded Skyrim and found the Nede tribes they interbred with the Nedes to found the beginnings of the Imperial race.


 * These two quotes:


 * "Historians often portray the human settlement of Tamriel as a straightforward process of military expansion of the Nords of Skyrim. In fact, human settlers occupied nearly every corner of Tamriel before Skyrim was even founded."


 * This refers to the Old Ehlnofey who stayed on Tamriel after the Dawn Era war - the Nedes. A seperate race of men than the Atmorans.


 * "Ysgramor was following a long tradition of migration from Atmora; Tamriel had served as a "safety valve" for Atmora for centuries before Ysgramor's arrival."


 * This simply refers to the Atmoran immigrants before Ysgramor. These peoples didn't become Nedes as there were already men on Tamriel (Kothrengi etc) before them.


 * In addition, im nor sure if you follow the works of Michael Kirkbride, but even he confirms the Nedes and not Atmorans. "Nedes != Atmorans. That's just shoddy scholarship from a bygone regime".


 * p.s - Have you read the article I wrote on The Towers?


 * p.p.s - Its good to have a talk about lore - It never happens on this wiki. :)


 * Jimeee (talk) 17:38, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

Blades
Hey Ikabite

Fist, thanks for the help with the Blades article, when i started i thought i could do it on my own, but it has proven to be one of the larger jobs i have done in awhile.

And yes, I am making sure to not make the Blades (Skyrim) a lore article, i just feel that if it read that way it would look better. if people want to know about the quest then they can read the quest. Im just planing on rewording and focusing the article on that era and its blades

thanks for your help and happy editing Cheatcodechamp (talk) 22:49, November 23, 2012 (UTC)

Replies
Jimeee (talk) 16:45, November 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * Re: Amorans - Working on a reply to you - will post soon.
 * Re: Towers - Thanks it took much research. As for the info in Oricalc, OOG content should be dealt with carefully so we aren't creating articles for everything MK related. Lore: Concepts exists for this but it's always best to check before going into that territory.
 * Re: Online - Images can be uploaded from the official site as long as the right license template is added. It should be in the licence dropdown. Again, careful with adding Online lore info and source everything you add.
 * Factions (Online) - It's too early to say at this point so no need to complicate matter with a rename. We can keep it as it is for now.

RE:Blades (Skyrim)
The page looks alot better then when we first found it. Before we say its done though we should double check with the admins to see if they can see anything that needs to be improved.

Thanks for all the help with it, without you the page wouldn't look half this good. Cheatcodechamp (talk) 18:50, November 24, 2012 (UTC)