User talk:SuperSajuuk/Archive 2

Warning
Following the recent CT, you may be already aware that Zippertrain85 has been removed as a Forum Mod due to his unacceptable language and behavior towards others. However, in the interests of fairness, the comment you made before him ("Grow the fuck up Zipper") was harsh and should not have been made. This rule goes for everyone - from anons to bureaucrats. There are less hostile ways to make your point, and given that you are staff, you should really be setting an example. I'm sure if someone made a personal attack in the chat, you would deal with it.

After discussing this with the other admins, it has been decided that it's only fair to issue you with a formal warning about this comment. Please try to stay calm during these discussions and keep a clear mind. --Jimeee (talk) 10:12, April 7, 2014 (UTC)

Oy!
Message me when you get back? As soon as I went to ask you something (wiki-wise) I saw you had jetted off    :o  Catbh (talk)

Excess HTML
Sorry - I was lazy and forgot to check the source before I published. The stupid visual editor strikes again. Cubears (talk) 04:15, June 1, 2014 (UTC)

Updated with new information
hey, I had an idea for the TES wiki channel, a video where we travel from one end of Tamriel to the other (TESIV + TESV) south to north to show off some of the franchise's awesome features. It sin't uneventful because a lot happens (lol) but I have it recorded and ready to go, 720p, roughly 30 mins long and worth using to get the TES wiki channel back into the uploading business - what d'ya say?

(Also if TES wiki doesn't use it, I will and I want TES wiki to upload again, so maybe I could contribute this way?)

the message abovew was me, I forgot to sign it XN3RDXD3RPX (talk)XN3RDXD3RPXXN3RDXD3RPX (talk)

Re: Archive
Hi Speysider.. I removed the archive list template instead, I like the look of the other archive better. Thanks for pointing it out to me. 15:19, June 15, 2014 (UTC)

Deleted archive
I deleted the archive you requested. Next time, please post a more detailed reason in the deletion template to avoid any possible confusion and hasten deletion. Thank you, however, for posting that in the edit summary line, although it should have been placed in the template. -- 00:12, June 28, 2014 (UTC)

Links
I'm sorry but doing an edit and removing 2 underscores is not that productive in my opinion. 21:22, June 30, 2014 (UTC)

Interaction Ban
By your own request on chat, I'm actioning an interaction ban between youself and User:Zippertrain85. Both of you are officially prohibited from interacting with each other, in any way, on the wiki in order to avoid future conflict.

After the restriction has been enacted, the next time either person violates the restriction prohibiting any interaction, the violator gets an official warning. After the warning, any further violations by the same editor will result in the editor being blocked. The administrator making a block should determine the appropriate duration based on the circumstances. As long as the other editor does not respond or do anything to violate the restriction, the other editor will receive no warning and won't be blocked.

Prohibited actions under the proposed restrictions would include: If either of you absolutely need to contact each other, you can only do so via an admin. All violations must be reported to an admin. If the violation occurs on chat, a screencap must be provided as evidence.
 * Making comments about the other editor, indirectly or directly, anywhere on the wiki.
 * Making any edit to the other editor's user page, user talk page, or user subpages.
 * Undoing any edit made by the other editor.

Jimeee (talk) 16:44, July 4, 2014 (UTC)

Do I know you?
You said in the chat that I asked you to "pm" me. I dunno what that means, but if you need advice, feel free to ask. --Java55555Obeseman (talk) 18:41, July 4, 2014 (UTC)

VotesTally
Sure, I can do that. 22:36, July 4, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Trolls
OK. I was just marking them for deletion. Anyway, adding all those pages to categories has brought me a lot closer to a badge I want to get. Legoguy451 (talk) 16:39, July 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * But he only needs to make another two pages, then I get 50 points (or something like that).Legoguy451 (talk) 16:47, July 5, 2014 (UTC)

Re Chat
I'm sorry but I haven't time, I have to go to bed as it's 1 am here, I jsut wanted to finish what I started.. It'll have to wait until tomorrow I'm afraid. 22:57, July 14, 2014 (UTC)

Protect
Hi Super, protected as asked. :) 13:12, July 20, 2014 (UTC)

Recent behavior
Your recent conduct on various CT's has been completely unacceptable, and will no longer be tolerated. In the Elchzard CT you made two comments that were inciteful, presumptuous and rude. It certainly breaks the Etiquette policy:
 * "Do you consider the forum mods to be worthless, in your eyes?"
 * "Ghost, Elchzard basically said "If you don't like my opinion, I am removing your rights". Are you condoning that sysops have every right to do this? "

This habit of putting words into people's mouths - when you know fine well that is not what they mean - is unprofessional. As a chat mod, you should know better and its disappointing and frankly embarrassing that I need to remind you of this.

In regards to my reply about sysops, I find it utterly astonishing that you noticed I omitted forum mods and completely focused on that, while ignoring the actual rational I posted. I posted the bulletpoints to give an example, because this is now the third time I have explained this rational. The previous two was in private chat, as you well know. When someone takes the time to explain something, you certainly don't accuse them in such an aggressive manner. Considering all the time I have spent listening and trying to understand your grievances in private chat, this is disappointing. Keep it civil.

This has nothing to do with you "sugarcoating" your words or "telling it like it is". It's a lack of manners that you believe you are entitled to. You admitted it yourself when you replied to GarouxBloodline with: "I refuse to be nice about things". This is not a one time incident either. This is becoming a pattern. Legitimate criticism is perfectly fine and welcome, provided it is done in a civil manner.

I'll "tell it like it is" without the sugar coating. You already have one warning under your account for conduct related to your behavior. You are a hair's breadth away from a second. This is not how any member of this wiki should behave, be they editor, chat mod, patroller, sysop or indeed forum mod. You are welcome to make constructive criticism - provided you follow the Etiquette policy and assume good faith. Continue to follow your mantra of "I refuse to be nice about things" will only end in one way.

Jimeee (talk) 10:40, July 23, 2014 (UTC)

Forum
Appreciate you writing that forum - I remember those Wikipedia articles back in the day when I used to write for them, and it is good to have that information on hand again, as I, too, feel the pain that comes along with vague poll results that end in undesirable outcomes.  Some Assembly Required! 23:11, July 24, 2014 (UTC)

ello!
I shall indeed hop on over to the chatroom. I'm on my Kindle Fire, though, so I don't know how well it will handle the page. I'll post a message here if it doesn't work. Fionare (talk) 17:45, August 4, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Falion Disambig
Hi Super, I just felt like it was needed. I don't care about edit counts, I wouldn't come back after many prolonged hiatuses just to increase my edit count. I saw something I thought needed fixing, so I decided to fix it. — AutoBlood  Talk  20:32, August 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't know why either, maybe the admins just feel I should still have them? I really don't see why its such a big deal either, or why I would have to bring it up with another user. I can't stop you from reverting my edits, but I can ask you not to. So, please don't as I don't see a reason to. — AutoBlood  Talk  20:39, August 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * Now I'm going to butt in as you usually do, Sajuuk. There is no reason at all for you to discuss with another staffmember if they should or shouldn't have rollback tools. You are talking abut how unfriendly some are here on the wiki, but do you really think this is friendly towards Auto? I don't think so... You are also quick to judge others but still you do almost the same thing. We have had a short discussion about disambig pages in the forum but unfortunately I can't find it, but we did mention that it should have 3 or more articles before one was made. I will also bring up some of your edits.. adding an attention template with needs fixing and some pointers to what should be fixed, then adding it back after a user had done a few edits with "Nope, still not fixed". Is that a valid edit? Why don't you fix it yourself? You have added templates like that on several articles.. Fix it... and the way you talk on the Falion talk page.. instead of a discussion and bumping it, why not add a delete template straight away? You say you edit but I have looked at the latest edits you have done and it's not impressive either.. sorry. 21:46, August 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * I too have a life and a 40 hour week job, and I can edit small edits during the day such as maintenance work. Then I usually spend 1-2 hours editing the wiki every night if I'm not too tired... In my opinion there was no reason you had to mention your opinion about his tags as you did, and as you know as in the past, it will be discussed then. Yes you can have an opinion but I think all of us already know your opinion as you have mentioned it about 20 times now, both in forum threads and in chat and on talkpages. We had a talk about the pagename "template", remember that? I said it was a standard here to use it and told you not to remove it from articles. Yet you continued to do so and Jimeee also told you it's used as a standard but yet again you kept removing it. Just because you don't agree with it. I have told you before in the forum that you come off as very bossy and unfortunatly I still do. 22:28, August 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * Nevertheless, I asked you to take this up in a discussion in the forum and you didn't and you promised me you'd stop removing it for the time being and you didn't. You say no one listens to you, and I have tried but from what I can remember, you have from the start come out with negative remarks, pointing fingers at how bad this wiki is to maintain order, policies and everything else, and should or shouldn't do comparing to others. That in my opinion is not the way to get heard. And if you decide to resign you don't have to go to Tim, I can do that to. 09:39, August 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, Speys.. you are missing the point here. You are entitled to have an opinion and state it but starting a consensus or any type of thread for a discussion and stating and pointing your finger is not a good idea, in this way you will not get what you want, instead you will be seen as a troublemaker. I do have experience of that in the past and it hasn't ended well. 09:54, August 6, 2014 (UTC)

Conflict resolution
Hi! I wanted to let you know I left a reply directed at everyone who replied to the Falion disambig thread on EbonySyrim's talk page. I'm putting this message on your talk page and Zippertrain85's talk page so you both get notified about it (otherwise, only Ebony might see it). Anyways, my reply is located at User talk:EbonySkyrim. It's basically an offer of impartial conflict resolution, because I see a lot of disconnect on here. I think pretty much everyone has a valid point, but previous interactions have soured everyone's feelings toward each other to the point where nobody is really hearing what people on other sides have to say. I'd lime to help you all make your grievances heard so this wiki can be a more productive place. There are more details in the linked post. I'd really appreciate it if you'd check it out and reply there :) Cheers, Fionare (talk) 17:42, August 6, 2014 (UTC)


 * I replied to your post on my talk page, just to keep it all in one place. Leaving this message so you get a notification :) Cheers, Fionare (talk) 18:29, August 6, 2014 (UTC)

Chat ban
Hello, it is I. I believe I've been banned from the chat for some reason, and I'm sorry if I offended anyone. The page "Flightmare and David petteys have banned those who are not sad ********" was not created by me. I attempted to delete it, as the content was offensive, and then left a message telling someone to delete the page. I apologize sincerely. Java55555Obeseman (talk) 22:12, August 6, 2014 (UTC)

talkpage
Talk page #1 paragraph 20:51, August 9, 2014 (UTC)

Behaviour
I am going to make this clear: you have been hateful on this wiki, and are using underhanded tactics to try and take down multiple other users for your own bias reasons. If I see you inventing your own rules again, the next reconfirmation I will be setting up for you, seeing as in how you are a Chat Moderator and you are setting horrible examples. I am not naive: I see how you work your chat friends up into a mob mentality so you can steamroll over anyone that disagrees with you. But that does not mean your actions should be ignored or forgiven. Some Assembly Required! 21:10, August 8, 2014 (UTC)


 * Here is my final message to you: since you seem unreceptive, and you lack the ability to show respect to anyone that does fit in with your personal agenda, I am going to make you aware of our blocking policy: "Violation of consensus – Many decisions on TESWiki are determined by consensus. Do not violate that consensus or you will be blocked."


 * By fabricating rules that were never voted on by the community, even if you did remove them later after being called out, you were indeed violating how consensus works on this wiki by refusing Jimeee his right to defend himself. I was hoping you would realize that you were the one at fault, but it appears that you are only concerned in your war against the Administrators of this wiki.


 * If the Admins are not already aware that you were breaking policy, I will be making them aware personally. If they decide to give you another chance, then I can assure you that I will be throwing up a reconfirmation personally if I see you breaking our policies again. :That is all I have to say. I hope you read my words carefully, and take them into consideration. I do not stand for bullshit, and never have during my many years at Wikia. You are not the first belligerent user I have had to deal with, and you will not be the last. [[file:ForGaroux.png|40px|link=User:GarouxBloodline]] Some Assembly Required! 21:19, August 8, 2014 (UTC)


 * You have now broken 3 rules: this third one violates this specific rule: "The contents of a talkpage are NOT to be removed, unless the talkpage was vandalised or otherwise breaks the Wikia TOU." [[file:ForGaroux.png|40px|link=User:GarouxBloodline]] Some Assembly Required! 22:02, August 8, 2014 (UTC)


 * }Res

Cross-wiki
Why do you keep attempting to tattle on me through another wiki I am a part of? They are not going to, and cannot do anything, and I find it really odd that you would actually stalk which wikis I am a part of to do such a thing.  Some Assembly Required! 22:03, August 9, 2014 (UT