Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-24402683-20131012015855/@comment-98.85.26.220-20160211064146

JillKill87 wrote: Zippertrain85 wrote: I'm afraid not, friend. The Bosmer and Khajiit do not fight for them, they are always called referred to as "Elves" in the Great War book. Those two races are simply treated as cattle to the Dominion, as shown in the Thalmor Embassy... Cherry pick? lol so you mean to tell me the Dominion didn't beat the emprie and take their city while also engaging Hammerfall? thats all made up...talk about delusional.

The EMperor wouldn't have given everything to the elves if he had a large chance at winning as you so wrongly think he did. Again if the Dominion had no reserves then there would be NOTHING stopping a Hammerfall/Imperial Alliance from taking the fight to them and ending them, stop making stuff up and siding with the Empire for the sake of siding with the empire and look at things with no bias. Dominion got their way because they had enough strength in reserve to force the EMperor's hand. saying "yeah well, they are lying they are not that strong" is simply Imperial Propaganda, Just like Thalmor have their own propaganda in books such as the Talos Mistake. From a military perspective you don't get your way with a treaty without having the upperhand, lies are not going to save you and have you get your way

and "as powerful as black marsh?" lol they are not that strong in fact the only reason they pushed back the Daedra is because they had the ENTIRE population whipped into a frenzy, not because they had a great powerful army. In fact their Invasion was pushed back in Morrowind once Redoran mobilized the remaining forces of the Great Houses, and that was after they got hit hard by Daedra.... imagine if they tried to go up against the main Daedric army in Cyrodil lead by Dagon himself, they would be slaughtered. in fact im willing to bet they sustained heavy casulties considering they are not all warriors and had women, farmers, children, laberors, traders too, soooo much canon fodder. numbers and shock is why they won, that woudln't last forever though. against a professional standing army in the fields they would be routed pretty fast... you have made too many assumptions about the hist and the argonians, first of all when whas it ever stated anyplace that the entire population of argonians was put into a frenzy, you literaly made that up, not only did you make it up it just sounds stupid to begain with. The truth of that matter is that we have no idea how the An-Xileel pushed back the daedra invashion, we only know that the hist gave them warning that it was comming due to there conection and future seeing powers granted to the by i beleive there god sithis, if you read the lore you will find that the hist and the argonians by extention have a deep conection with sithis, this is why any argonian born under the star symbole of the shadow was trained as a shadow scale for the dark brotherhood, to be used by black marsh at a later date, tho i beleive the An-xileel stopped this practice some time during the decline of the dark brotherhood, tho thay still could be training them as assassin just not leting the DB use them due to there argonians only policy. now if the An-Xileel had fought the main force with the same ligistics given to them by the hist then i have no doubt the would have been able to push back and invade the oblivion planes just as they did in black marsha asforthere incvashion of morrowind, no the Great Houses were not able to push back the argonians much, and I do beleive two of them house Dres and house indoril, the two most invalved thn the slave trade, were all but completly annialated, and I beleve the southern portion as well as the eastern half of the province remains under Argonian, An-Xieel controle. The odea that the AD could make a viris that affects argonians only baffles me, seeing as the only ones that I know of that have used that tactic maybe are the argonians, then i think it would be much more likely to employ this strategy and if they both tryed it there is little dought the Argonian shamans could cook up a sickness that effects the Thalmor alot faster than the Thalmor could make something that effects the renowned argonian disease immune bodyes. In the end taking both factions as they currently are any Thalmor invaion of An-xileel territory would not last long, not only due to the fact of a home feild advantage, but also that the Thalmor would highly underestimate there opponent, due to there superiority complex and thinking of the argonians as unorganized beat folk who are less then them, despite the fact that they are  more then likely very well organized. In fact i not onlt see there invasion being a complet failer, I also think the An-Xileel backlash may put them in a war that could  jeopardize there stance ageinst the Empier, but that is only if the An-Xieel are as orginized as I think and that is an assumption, but if I'm right, and they are well organized, as well as use all the abilities of the hist to there advantige, I could see the backlash of the An-Xieel taking the form of an invashion of elsweyr framed as the two former slave races helping on another, If I'm right i could see the An-xieel winning that war establishing Elsweyr as a buffer zone to the AD as well as making the Thalmor look like a laughing stock to the empiren as they were just defeted by lizards, but thats only if my assumptions about how the An-xieel defeted the dadra, with ligistics and stratigy, and not your of they frenzyed every one and swarmed them with every last man women and child suffering major casulties. I'm betting mine seeing as black marsh in every sorce i have read was considered lass damaged then any of the other provinces, as well as was the FIRST province to secede from the empire after the oblivion crisis. I also must say that the Thalmor masterminding the Argonian secession is only a rumor, and seeing as the An-Xieel is an argonians only i highly doubt it.