User talk:EbonySkyrim/Archive 2

Siege on the Dragon Cult
Hey Ebony, I read through the page and must say it's very detailed and well written. I have made a few changes to the article by re-wording some lines and fixed some minor spelling mistakes. I think having images aligned to the right works better formatting wise. I've also moved the Gallery up before Trivia, as that is where it's supposed to be placed. Other than that, to me it looks good. Good job! :) — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  18:46, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

Blades (Skyrim)
Hello, EbonySkyrim,

I remember Cheatcodechamp asking you to make some screenshots involving the Blades in The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. Do you still have those? The page is nearly complete and images could be added right now.?

Also, if you are looking for more work, there are some new requests in the image request page. All of it for the same article.

Thank you for your time,

Ikabite (talk) 09:06, November 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * Your images are good, but they could be better. I hope you do not get offended by some criticism.


 * Main problem of "Blades Training" images is the weaponry. I mean, sure it doesn't matter that much, but it is a flaw, no matter how small it might be. If I am not mistaken, first image uses Drainheart Sword, but second one Mehrunes Razor, which are both very unfitting in the setting.


 * The image of new recruits is very good, angle is picked very skillfully. I might as well add it to the Gallery part of the page. What I do not like about it, is how the image displays TESV clumsy movement and positioning. In my opinion the recruits should have footing on something flat. In this particular image it looks like they are floating above the stairs.


 * I am impatiently waiting for some more images,


 * Ikabite (talk) 10:31, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

Banners
Hey Ebony. I used your Dawnguard banners on a few pages - the one without the pole was perfect! Many thanks!

Jimeee (talk) 10:16, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

Horkers
Yeah, It seems a redirect is in order. Also I'll try and get proper look at the Siege page, so busy right now!

Jimeee (talk) 13:47, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks!
As the title implies, I wanted to thank you for your help with the article. I also added some screenshots myself, but I have never done anything like this before, thus I might not be as good at it.

There is another request and an offer I wanted to make. As you can see the page still seems somewhat empty, but I can't decide what does it lack. Only idea I have right now it to somehow fit Esbern's image in the "Members" section. I have thought about adding an image having both Delphine and Esbern. I want your expertise and your creative thinking to be involved in finalization of the page, as after we're done with the images, it could pass for a featured article.

Ikabite (talk) 00:00, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Re: Thanks!
The double image, that's what I had in mind. Unfortunately Esbern has bugged beyond repair in my new game and getting some decent pictures might be hard as it is. Finding or making a good double picture will be even trickier.

Thanks for the advice of reuploading, at the time, I did the upload directly, as I couldn't find the section for properly uploading of new images. Other two I added are fine in, when it comes to this matter.

What do you use for your images? I haven't really put any effort into editing or cutting them. I am just using Fraps, and "tm" console command. It automaticly saves them as .jpeg.

Ikabite (talk) 08:41, November 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * Your dedication is admirable. :D Ikabite (talk) 09:40, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

Borgas
Thanks for the Borgas image, it's perfect! I can also use the sleeping one on the quest page eventually. :)

Jimeee (talk) 13:49, November 28, 2012 (UTC)

Images and Archives
Hey Ebony

First, as a reminder, the wikia has the image rule regarding replacing working images on articles. i saw you changed the one on the Guild Master's Armor Set with a new image. since the image is better as far as i see it i have no problem with it, but please be careful to not change any image that are debatable about needing improvement.

Seconded, i saw one of you said something about the old image having a bad name. if you ever need an image renamed you can ask the patrollers as well as admins, Balagog and i would have no trouble doing it for you.

Third (and the main reason im here), your message log has gotten a bit long and it might be time to archive it. All you have to do is create the page User_talk:EbonySkyrim/Archive_1. Copy and paste your current messages into the new page (You can leave a few recent new messages on your main Talk page) and save it. Then add the archive link to the top of your main Talk page. Feel free to take a look at a few peoples talk pages as to get an idea on how to "present" your archive list.

Thanks for all the good work on the wikia, if you need anything please feel free to ask

Cheatcodechamp (talk) 18:51, November 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * The reason my letters are big is because i used the lettering from the original template, when editing your page, see if you can change the format to "heading 2", i think that's what you are looking for, if not i could take a look and see if i could get it done.

And im glad to hear your helping as much as you are with the images, if i knew tomb had already talked to you about it i wouldn't have brought it up.

Cheatcodechamp (talk) 02:44, November 29, 2012 (UTC)

Busy Week
Hey, EbonySkyrim,

I am having my exams next week and I have to get rid of all debths before that... as in homework and papers. So I'll be busy for this and the next week. I might appear here to get some rest, but I won't be editing much.

First of all, those are some great images, I'll explain my critics on the previous images later. Jimeee wanted to take over the page to do some finishing brushes, you might want to give him the images. Or you could just add them yourself. Thanks for all the help!

Have fun with the Dragonborn! OR Good luck avoiding the spoilers!

Ikabite (talk) 21:23, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

Blades
If i may ask, who did you pick as your three Blades recruits? I think i recognize Lydia but i dont know the others.

Cheatcodechamp (talk) 23:37, December 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * I never really liked Calder, i never used him. And this play through i married lydia so i didnt use her like i have in the past.

Right now, my three are Argis, Kharjo, and Borgakh the Steel Heart.

Ill take a look at your archive, i got mine as large as it is by connecting it to a already existing font, but im sure there is a way to do it.

Cheatcodechamp (talk) 08:34, December 6, 2012 (UTC)

Archive
A rather silly question... How does the "Archive" template work? The guide page on it doesn't seem to explain a lot.

Blades
Hi Ebony, sorry I have not replied - I must have missed your last message! So crazy with Dragonborn updates. About the images - go ahead and add ewhat you feel looks good. I still need to find time to check the article but just been so busy lately :)

Jimeee (talk) 21:30, December 11, 2012 (UTC)

clr vs. Clear
Hey,

I saw that on Guild Master's Armor Set you changed the "clr" template to "Clear". Is there any difference between the two? I've always use "clr" and am just wondering if I should be using "Clear" instead. Thanks. Kroq-gar78 (talk) 20:06, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Poor quality photo
Hi Ebony! Yes, that is perfectly OK to upload a new better quality image in the PNG format, after all it is the preferred image format. :) — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  03:05, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Beachside burnout
It is usually pretty easy to identify since the area is permanently on fire.

No problem. The point of the wiki is to provide information and assistance after all. ;D

Zelron Harbinger of the end times  20:22, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

Lost Apprentices

Zelron Harbinger of the end times  21:39, December 18, 2012 (UTC)

Shrine of Dagon location
The Shrine of Mehrunes Dagon is actually located in The Pale and not Hjaalmarch. I'm unsure of which Hold the unmarked location you've found is in. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  21:25, December 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * That is not an official mapping of Skyrim, it's a high resolution map created by GameBanshee. The Parent Location data in the Creation Kit has the Shrine of Mehrunes Dagon in The Pale. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  22:59, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

Editing questions - gotten
Greetings & Salutations - In answer to your questions: Gotten is used throughout the U.S., not just New England. (We both were born in Florida.) Phrases like "Things have gotten out of hand." are used all over the U.S. The net page you found is not exactly correct - imagine that, misinformation on the WWW!

Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary Defines gotten as the past participle of get, there is no tag for the word being either obsolete or regional. (Past participles are used in many ways, including the perfect tense, the passive voice (used in this Wiki a lot) and as adjectives.

TESWiki's style guidelines state that U.S. Standard English is to be used, especially with spelling (color, not colour, etc.), and that words should not be inappropriately capitalized. Skorm Snow-Strider's journal is the correct form, as the journal isn't a published work with that title. Yes, there are very many instances of this kind of error, (the page name would be technically incorrect if the game didn't capitalize it). Just because the word is capitalized on its page doesn't make it appropriate to capitalize it in the middle of a sentence (we have changed Draugr to draugr, etc. many many times). So and So's Farm should really be So and So's farm, as well, for instance.

We hope this has cleared things up for you. Happy holidays :-) DarthOrc (talk) 17:37, December 18, 2012 (UTC)

Character pages
Just so you know as I have seem you making a few updates - for character pages, we prefer not to add "in " in the lead as it make it sound a little clinical. Character pages are one of the few pages that we can really be creative and make thm sound interesting, so we are trying to write them somewhat like mini-biographies.

Jimeee (talk) 10:53, December 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi there! I know lots of people upload images that are not to standard but there is not much we can do except replace them at a later date. If they do upload a really bad image, it's not worth worrying about as it is subject to replacement and they can't complain once it does.


 * As for the character pages, I know a few template actually have the "in ", For dragonborn, it was included only so the page lead would not be empty in these early days. I'm trying to replace them slowly. Lots of Skyrim pages have it, but they don't look good at all. I'll try to update the guidelines as its sometimes unclear. Thanks!


 * Jimeee (talk) 09:31, December 25, 2012 (UTC)

Gallery? Really? Personally, I have never formatted articles like that. I just checked the guidelines and although the gallery isn't mentioned in the in-universe section, it is listed as after trivia in the OOU section. To me it's always seems like it made sense to have a gallery at/near the very end of an article.

Jimeee (talk) 22:55, December 25, 2012 (UTC)

Merry Christmas
I hope you had a nice holiday too. I'm also away from home and all my games, so you're not alone there. :P Just enjoying the time with family for the next couple days. I've also been in the process of moving to a new place, so if you don't see me as active around here as I usually am, that is why. :) — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  01:10, December 26, 2012 (UTC)

Morrowind & Oblivion
Glad you had a nice time with family. Also, good to know you got Morrowind and Oblivion on PC now. Morrowind doesn't have a free camera mode, so instead of using tfc, you'll have to utilize the tai command to freeze character actions and be in first person mode. The tm command also still works in Morrowind to hide the HUD. Morrowind gameplay is very different from Oblivion, so I don't blame you for starting on Oblivion first. You can use the same commands to take images in Oblivion as in Skyrim. Sometimes using the tai command without having the character selected won't freeze the character, so using tai on a selected character would work better.

As for taking pics of characters in a full image for Oblivion, I suppose that it's okay, since we are striving for standard character images. Most of the character images for Oblivion that are up are already in PNG format, so uploading a new version over the old one, like you have been doing for Skyrim. You already know what to do. :) — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  17:38, December 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yup, the new image of Baurus looks good! :D — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  00:06, December 29, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Gallery
I've always placed the gallery above Trivia and Bugs, this is what I had been told to do since the day I joined. If it's not clearly written in the guidelines then there is no right or wrong area to place the gallery in, and that is probably something that should be addressed with the rest of the staff to get rid of any confusion on where it properly goes. Personally to me, I think the Gallery fits better above the sections Trivia and Bugs. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  00:22, December 29, 2012 (UTC)

Photo request.
Hey Ebony.

I saw that you have added some new and very much needed images from Oblivion, and i was hoping if you could upgrade an image if you ever got the chance. We need a better image for Martin Septim. Since he is one of the main characters in the game his image should be up to standards.

Should you return to oblivion, i would be grateful if you found a better image.

Thanks and happy editing.=Cheatcodechamp (talk) 19:58, December 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks, there is no rush for the image, so take your time. You might also beable to help with the Image Request should you end up in those area's. But again, no rush, you should beable to enjoy the game. A image of Martin in his robes might be useful, but ill let you decide on that.


 * I hope you enjoy the game, It was my first Xbox game i played and i loved every moment of it.-Cheatcodechamp (talk) 20:20, December 29, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Map images Oblivion
It's hard to get decent screenshots of maps in Oblivion, specifically the inset local/indoor maps, since there is no full map option. In the past I've puzzle-pieced indoor maps together via the Construction Set for Oblivion, but that too was a very tedious task. I'd say not to worry about those maps for now, but if there are any locations that are missing a main map image, you can do those instead. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  01:34, January 3, 2013 (UTC)

Tribunal Charcter images
Hey I seen your images and their of great quilty i was wondering if it was posible, if you want to help post photos of charcters from tribunal their is allot of them and i was hoping you could help.DeirdreKent101 (talk) 00:38, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

aww thats ok but thank you anyway you make good pics keep up the good work 8)DeirdreKent101 (talk) 17:43, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

Images
Hey Ebony. If you have time left, and are looking for Skyrim images to improve, the images on the page Clothing (Skyrim)/Gallery can use an improvement. Making them higher quality/PNG/without the cursor etc. 12:13, January 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * I agee its best that the character stands in the same position. But i don't exactly understand what you mean regarding to the console command. Isn't the best way to remake those pics to spawn those clothing into your inventory, put them on on your character, and make the images? I don't know much about making images and console commands since i play on the Xbox 360. I have Skyrim for on the pc, but i bought that 5 days ago, i've only played the intro since, so sorry but i'm not much of a help regarding console commands. 12:33, January 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * Ow lol ok. That much i know. Look here: Console Commands (Skyrim)/Clothing, its explained how to obtain clothing with the console. ;) 12:41, January 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * Btw, your images of Oblivion look great! 12:43, January 5, 2013 (UTC)

Weird Editing
Hi, we are having a problem with the mechanics of the Wiki. Some pages aren't letting us go into the source mode. The very same ones you mentioned, among others. Other pages let us switch into the source mode. We haven't figured out why, so we told Kenny about it. (We didn't add any extra spaces, etc. on those pages, and they didn't show up on the preview, either.) And then there's the random? words that are showing up underlined and in color. (They are showing up on other Wiki's as well.) Have you seen them? We guess that, until it is fixed, we will stop editing pages that we can't go into source mode on :-{ DarthOrc (talk) 09:05, January 6, 2013 (UTC)

RE: Clothing images and clay deposit
Thank you for the image of the Clay deposit! And the images on Clothing (Skyrim)/Gallery look great, i would say: keep it up. :) 18:32, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem, and they look great. I will look it up for you since i have the Skyrim creation kit. Haven't worked with it much yet, but i mostly know how to work with it since i also work with the morrowind construction set. I will let you know when i've searched it up. 20:35, January 6, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Question about books
Hi Ebony, Lets not add all the pages of the journals/books in image format. The cover of journals and books is sufficient enough as the content is already written on the page. There are standard images for Oblivion books already in use that come from the Oblivion CS. The cover that is used for Cap'n Dugal's Journals is called File:Quarto01.png.

Also, not all Skyrim books include individual pages, the majority of Skyrim books just have a standard cover image. Honestly, in my opinion, individual pages of books is redundant since content is already present on the page. Sometimes simplifying makes things better organized. :) — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  21:49, January 6, 2013 (UTC)

Blacksmith's apron
Hey Ebony i looked the id up for you. Its 0006FF37. I think the original poster made a spelling error, since its "6" and not "c". 20:47, January 7, 2013 (UTC)

Congrats.
Hey guys, its been awhile.

I just wanted to congratulate the both of you on becoming the member of the month. you two deserve it.-Cheatcodechamp (talk) 06:30, January 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * Crap, i had both your profiles opened when i sent it. i opened your by mistake then open theirs, and i still mess up :P. Anyway, thanks for telling me, and you can keep the congrats on the hard work :)-Cheatcodechamp (talk) 21:13, January 9, 2013 (UTC)

Plant template and mod template
Hey Ebony, I was just about to send you off a message too. Just want to give you a heads up about those templates. We are not using the Plant template or mod templates anymore. So, ShiveringIslesIngredients is the correct template to use and not Plant. When you see the mod template on a page, please remove it, as we are no longer using it. Our infoboxes are color-coded, so that's really all that is needed to let people know that the information is from a DLC. As for the size of the images to be used for ingredients, that is not defined, but, it also doesn't need to be a huge image. Something like 1024x768 is large enough. You don't have to re-do the images that you've already uploaded though, just for future images you upload, that seems like a good size. :) — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  00:21, January 11, 2013 (UTC)


 * Heh, no worries, there are many things that are going to be re-hauled soon. So, we can fix that spacing issue with the images not fitting the whole page. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  00:39, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Pattroler
Hey Ebony,

A few of us have been talking, and we are wondering if you have any interest of becoming a patroller. You have been a huge help to the wikia, and we feel that you could be of even more help if promoted.

As im sure you know, the main jobs of a pattroler are to revert and report vandilism and to patrol new articles. They also can rename images that need it. you can read everything about it here.

If you want the job let me know, then i can officially nominate you and get the wheels rolling.-Cheatcodechamp (talk) 07:32, January 12, 2013 (UTC)


 * Take all the time you need, its no trouble at all.-Cheatcodechamp (talk) 20:06, January 12, 2013 (UTC)

Images to be Replaced
Hey Ebony. Just want to let you know about a new image maintenance category called Category:Images to be Replaced. Images that are found under this category are similar to those found in Category:Poor Quality Images, except these images need to be replaced usually because they are taken from other sites, like UESP. So, feel free to add the category to your follow list if you are interested in replacing these images. Great job on all the new images and I hope you are enjoying Oblivion and Shivering Isles! :) — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  03:15, January 14, 2013 (UTC)


 * Re:Patroller
 * Hey Ebony, you already contribute in a great way to the wiki with uploading better images and expanding on current articles which is a quality we look for in patrollers. You don't have to know everything about the games to be a patroller. The role of a patroller mainly entails keeping an eye on the recent changes (wiki activity) page, rolling back/reverting vandalism and issuing a warning on a user's talk page about why their edit was reverted. Users might post to your talk page to ask questions about game related issues, but if you do not have the answers, then that's fine, refer them to someone that might know, or you can direct them to the Forum and have them ask their game-related question there to get answers from the community.


 * Anyway, take your time in your decision and if it's something you'd be interested in doing, then great! If not, that is fine as well. :) — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  00:06, January 15, 2013 (UTC)