Board Thread:Skyrim/@comment-120.28.157.86-20140406014559/@comment-26693897-20170223184805

YinyangElementofduality wrote: Ulfric didn't go inside Halls of Valor after Alduin was defeated. I beatened Alduin quite a lot of times and stayed on in Sovngarde to test that theory out. Everytime, Ulfric didn't make it into the Halls of Valor. This is game mechanics.

103.245.88.253 wrote: 1) Full dialogue: ( Galmar is telling Ulfric soldiers are lost everyday. )

Ulfric: "Calm yourself, Galmar. Save it for the battlefield." Galmar: "Our men are getting massacred out there. Damn Imperials." Ulfric: "We can't march on Solitude. Not yet. One thing at a time." Galmar: "We need to move faster. Keep them off balance." Ulfric: "It's working, Galmar. Our patience has won us friends and allies. And our armies are systematically taking care of the rest." And yet Ulfric says they're going to fight against the Dominion. If the Stormcloaks can't even handle a severely weakened Empire, how would they handle the Dominion, which has a lot of power?

2) I didnt know Ulfric signed the concordant to ban Talos worship. Ulfric was a Thalmor agent who became uncooperative after the Thalmor betrayed him during the Markarth Inccident.

3) Storm Brotherhood sounds like a good idea....  WTF?

4) After arriving at Solitude, enter  Castle Dour  and speak to  General Tullius . He will then direct the Dragonborn to Legate Rikke, who is usually by the war table. She will then say that  Fort Hraggstad, which has been taken over by  bandits , must be cleared. Rikke acknowledges your strenght and congratulates you upon your return. Galmar, on the other hand, admits he didn't think you'd make it, and only apologizes for misjudging you upon your return.

5) All the Jarls are puppets to the empire or ulfric except Balgruuf. (He fights for his own city - whiterun) Do you know what a puppet is? A puppet doesn't realize he's being played. A true puppet example are Markarth and Riften. The Silver-Bloods own the guards of Markarth and Maven controls Riften by using Laila as a puppet.

Ulfric and Torygg will eventually go in to the Hall of Valor, but they want to send you off 1st... They don't go due to game mechanics.

Just play both side of the story, the empire fights to restore peace and the stormcloaks fight for their freedom and religion. It wouldnt be a civil war if the empire or stormcloak is "better", not ending the civil war will benefit the aldmeri dominion. Both factions have their flaws but if I have to choose the lesser of two evils, I choose the Empire because at least it can justify its flaws. Can Ulfric say the same? Of course not, because for him killing everyone that's not with him regardless of their reason is right. Tearing apart a society because you're not allowed to worship Talos openly when everyone got along fine worshiping him in secret is right. Setting yourself up for inevitable destruction is right. Again, Stormcloaks lack foresight and are just a bunch of brats at the table complaining that the last sweet roll was taken. They would have been better off sticking with the Empire as resistance forms like in much of the rest of Tamriel. Hammerfell is resisting because they're united. The Stormcloaks tore all that unity to shreds and now they have no chance, especially since the Thalmor WANT this civil war. DIVIDE AND CONQUER.