Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-31082174-20170401161625/@comment-24947547-20170911161414

DovahzulOfBromjunaar wrote: Also, which side are you on in the Civil War, I'm curious.

I tried out the Imperials (On my current playthrough) and they seem to be a bunch of stuck-up pricks like the Thalmor. Absolutely hate 'em. Me, I'm a Stormcloak at heart, but what really pisses me off is that Ulfric is a racist bastard! I play as a Dunmer or Breton, occasionally Altmer (And then let everyone kill my character because FUCK THE ALTMER!), because I'm a mage character mostly. Plus, the honor of being a Breton is rather high. Uriel Septim the IV, Springheel Jak.

I particularly like Springheel Jak. I'd like to RP as him. Even name my character "Jakben Imbel." He's cool. I would be better than him! A better thief, a better vampire! BETTER!

I'm mad as Uncle Sheo, ain't I?

It's funny, I see the Stormcloaks the same way you do the Imperials. Especially the Stormcloak Jarls, like Korir, Skald, and Dengeihr. Splitting Skyrim from the Empire seems so illogical considering an Empire at full strength lost to the Dominion. Even the example of Hammerfell beating back the Dominion resulted in the ruin of their country, and the Thalmor won anyway since their politics have become dominated by Thalmor supporters. A resurgent empire is really the only way to win.

Aside from that, Imperial leadership seems best for Skyrim as a whole. The only trading partners available to a free Skyrim would be Morrowind and considering the whole Skyrim belongs to the Nords schtick those stuck-up Stormcloaks seem to have I doubt that relationship would go over well. With an Imperial victory, it seems only good things would come for both Windhelm and Winterhold as both have innovative new Imperial aligned Jarls. Whereas if the Stormcloaks win, NONE of the Jarls in charge are actually any good.

Imperial Jarls: Brunwulf Free-Winter (good), Kraldar (good), Idgrod*(good), Elisif*(neutral), Maven (bad), Siddgeir (bad), Balgruuf (good), Sigmund (bad).


 * debatable but the actual knowledgable people all seem to agree that the visions are legit due to ancient magics in their bloodline


 * Skyrim would probably benefit from a puppet ruler to ensure a strong centralized government for the empire as a whole for the upcoming war with the Thalmor. Heavily implied by Tullius and Rikke to be coming soon after the Empire is stabilized and recovered.

Stormcloak Jarls: Ulfric (bad), Korir (terrible), Laila (bad), Dengeihr (bad), Sorli (terrible), Elisif*(bad), Thonnar (bad), Greymande dude ( neutral).


 * Elisif without a strong Imperial presence will just be terrible.

None of the Stormcloak Jarls are decent. Nordic culture as a whole seems to need a more Imperial cosmopolitan brush-up actually. Studying their lore would show just how much they've needed other cultures to survive. Take the Companions and the whole conquering of the Elves thing. We know now that it was only possible at all because each Companion had a whole set of enchanted gear from Ahzidal. A nord who trained under the elves. Without Ahzidal, the Companions wouldn't have even managed to land in Skyrim.