Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-4705438-20140201121316/@comment-9212235-20150109030200

72.74.78.185 wrote: Manteling is not becoming. It is the act of becoming so similar to the other entety that the universe fails to tell the difference between the two and the origenal one (Lorkhan) is destroyed. Anyways, just because several bethesda employees have confirmed that this process exists doesn't mean Talos mantled Lorkhan. He was absolutaly nothing like him. He used the Numidium to destroy Alinor to avoid losing countless imperial lives in the invasion of the Aldmeri Dominion. While many poeple died, he still had good intentions and legitamently cared about his troops. Lorkhan (supposedly) was a huge jerk and bound the gods to Nirn so they would become weaker and so that he would rule the Aurbis for himself. Talos wanted to conquor Tamriel so that the land could have peace and everyone, reguardless of race or ethnicity, could prosper. He became a god because Akatosh was so impressed by his actions on Nirn that he made him a god (and also according to MK he achieved CHIM). See, you can dissagree with me all you want because you can have you're own opinions about everything, but this is why i lothe MK lore so much. In adition to saying that Talos is Lorkhan, he also hints that Talos is not Tiber Septem but a combenation of Wulfharth, Zurin Aractus, Ysmer (The same person as Tiber Septem), Tiber Septem and Lorkhan, that Sheogorath and Jyggilag are aspects of Lorkhan and, worse still by a factor i cannot even begin to comprehend, that the last Dragonborn is a Shezarine. I don't want my character, the hero of Skyrim, the Haarbingaar of the companions, the arch mage of Winterhold and the Slayer of Alduin is the reencarnation of Lorkhan, and going even further back Sithis and Padomey, the most evil beings/entities in the universe. And don't even get me started on C0DA. I literally can't even...

Where to being. I guess i'll just start at the top.

Mantling is absolutly becoming. If the universe can't distinguish one being from another, they are, for all intents and purposes, the same being. In every instance of anyone mantling anyone, they lose their identity and become that being. Arden Sul -> Sheogorath, CoC -> Arden Sul (Sheogorath), for example. Talos mantled Lorkhan. Lorkhan didn't go anywhere, he was dead (missing). The reason Talos remained Talos and didn't become Lorkhan is due to CHIM. This is not "according to MK." He was just the first to inform us of this. Heimskr's speach proves it as it is directly taken from From The Many-Headed Talos. "'You have suffered for me to win this throne, and I see how you hate jungle. Let me show you the power of Talos Stormcrown, born of the North, where my breath is long winter. I breathe now, in royalty, and reshape this land which is mine. I do this for you, Red Legions, for I love you.'" 

Lorkhan wasn't a jerk, or maybe he was. This depends on your point of view, be it Mer, or Man. Man revere him as their creator deity. To them he is a hero and the creator of their race. Also, Kyne was pretty fond of him. They were lovers.

Here's a list of things MK never said that you say he did, or at least the idea doesn't originate from him.

So let's start these two sentences with - MK never said...

...Sheogorath and Jygg were aspects of Lorkhan. The idea that Sheogorath contains Lorkhan's divine spark originates from Oblivion... the game.

...The LDB is a Shezarrine. (Which btw makes a lot of sense. He is a hero of man, and a Dragonborn. Dragonborn are often (re: almost always) Shezzarine as Akatosh is partly Lorkhan being the god of Spacetime). Btw, that last bit's also not MK lore.

Let's also talk about Sithis/Padomay. These beings are NOT evil. Sithis is the Aurbical representation of Padomay. Sithis is science, math, physics. Sithis disorder. Chaos is not inherently evil. Chaos is creation. Lorkhan is the birthed soul and physical representation of Sithis within the Aurbis. It was Lorkhan's plan to create life so that life may create more life and eventually birth a New Amaranth. Please tell me how this is evil?