User talk:Atvelonis/Archive 4

Collaborative project
Hej, I think that's a great idea. I'll be glad to help as much as I can, though I can't speak for the rest of the guild.

But sadly I doubt I'll be around for the moot, as it's a bit too late, at least this week. (The time here is UTC+2 in the summer due to daylight saving. From what I found out it would even be 3am for me.) I hope someone else of the guild will be around, though. Mondblueme (talk) 19:23, June 26, 2015 (UTC)Mondblueme

Chat
chat again :) Emperor Jarjarkine    The Ragged Flagon - Cistern  03:31, June 27, 2015 (UTC)

Request for some advice
I began editing a small Wikia a few weeks ago. The moderator there behaves like a vandal. He reverts almost all edits made by other users on articles. He doesn't follow any guidelines described in best moderator practices. He starts edit wars, ending them in his favor by imposing IP blocks of absurd durations. He put a two-week block on me over a minor dispute about an image. After that ban expired I went to his talk page, saying that he should at least open up a discussion about the issue on that article's talk page. He blocked my IP for a year - yes, a year - and then falsified his own talk page, rephrasing my posts. I kid you not.

This psychopath doesn't intimidate me, but I've never delt with something like this. Do you have advice on how to best approach the situation? Do I write a mail to Wikia's community support or something? Any basic tips would be appreciated. Thanks. Arshudar Al-Muhdarin (talk) 16:41, June 27, 2015 (UTC)

Moot timezones
When you have time, could you look over the timezone chart on the Moot page? I think it might be incorrect.

Madman97 (talk) 22:55, June 27, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Skyrim Guild
Hey Atvel! I'd be most willing to help out in any way I can, and with Jarjarkine's support as the guild's supervisor I think I can step up to the role if you need me to. I know how you feel but ESO will need to take priority from those who play it as it's a new area for the wiki and there's much more to do- I'm so glad to have users like yourself who play ESO and contribute ESO information to the wiki :) I know it's going to be a huge help if I ever decide to get into ESO in the future haha! But until then, I'll help all I can with the Skyrim stuff!

Oh on a sidenote, were you still going with the Timeline link replacement stuff or has that been completed already?


 * Wow that's some incredible work on the dialogue man o__o And I'm in love with the quotes table!! Please tell me I can start spreading that over other character pages like a plague? Haha, I'll see if I can find anything else to add but it looks thoroughly comprehensive to me!
 * Thanks for letting me know :) Sad to see you step down, I hope I can do as well as you did with the Guild! There are a lot of projects on the list to get through for Skyrim still. Good luck with the ESO work!
 * Thanks for letting me know :) Sad to see you step down, I hope I can do as well as you did with the Guild! There are a lot of projects on the list to get through for Skyrim still. Good luck with the ESO work!

Chat
Hey Atve, I'd like to meet you in the chat if you get the chance. Leave me a message to tell me that you are ready. Emperor Jarjarkine   The Ragged Flagon - Cistern  00:45, June 29, 2015 (UTC)

Renaming a page
The name for the page about the war between Pact/Covenant/Dominion in ESO is currently "Three Banners War", however I've been unable to find this war called that anywhere in-game. The only thing I could find was an item called "Outdated Map of Tamriel", which refers to the war as the "Alliance War".

"This map was drawn before the Alliance War began, however it still accurately depicts geography and distance."

I wanted to clear it with you before renaming the page, since I know a lot of pages currently direct to "Three Banners War" and I don't know what it'll do to those pages.  DRAEVAN13  22:24, June 29, 2015 (UTC)


 * I looked on the Rename function and I can't see any "Redirect" check  DRAEVAN13 Dc.png 15:17, June 30, 2015 (UTC)

Filter disabled
Good morning. I hope that you are well and doing okay. I was just looking around the wiki to catch up on some stuff, and noticed Filter 13 was disabled. As it is a private filter and was created by myself, I am just curious to the reasoning behind it being disabled on the wiki, as it seemed to prevent a lot of obvious vandalism. Thank you for your time. --Sajuuk 09:42, June 30, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure why it should be doing that. I checked the filter on my sandbox wiki (since you can't physically remove a filter from AbuseFilter) and it's only going to check added lines (aka, lines added in the newer diff), so it shouldn't be blocking normal edits if a category isn't being added to the page. And it's also set to only work on anons as well, so no idea what's happened with the filter.
 * It's possible someone else came along and made an edit that broke the conditions, although I can't confirm it either. You would need to use the edit examiner tool on some edits that got caught by that filter and find out what it says for "added_lines" for a selection of edits and seeing if they're actually adding a category.
 * Hopefully the anonymous don't catch wind of the filter being disabled and start vandalising the wiki. --Sajuuk 15:58, June 30, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Guilds table
Sire ! I'm sleeping atm but, tomorrow, i'll do it ^^ Emperor Jarjarkine   The Ragged Flagon - Cistern  06:08, July 2, 2015 (UTC)

Fixed
Okay, I fixed it  :) Emperor Jarjarkine    The Ragged Flagon - Cistern  18:45, July 2, 2015 (UTC)

Lamia
I notice what you did recently on the page 'Lamia (Online)'. Why did you delete the pic? It's concept art of the actual Lamia from the game located in the book included with the Imperial Edition of the game!

AJ Boomer (talk) 14:08, July 3, 2015 (UTC)AJ Boomer

On Moot Leader
I'm sure I don't need to tell you this, but if you need to freshen up on the rules of being Moot Leader, you can read over the first log we put in, but I'm sure you'll do fine. I'll see if I can make it tomorrow, as July 4th isn't exactly an English holiday, but don't hold me to that. In fact, I wouldn't blame you guys if you wanted to skip this one.

Madman97 (talk) 05:31, July 4, 2015 (UTC)

Help With Putting Map Images Onto Skyrim Articles
Hello Atvelonis,

I have been trying to add map images from the elder scrolls v: skyrim to a bunch of skyrim articles that need map images located here http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Skyrim:_Map_Image_Needed. The problem im having is none of the images i try to put in the article are showing up correctly, i was aware of how to do this in the past but due to rl i was unable to continue being active and have since forgotten how to do things particularly the above as stated. Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,

TessaVarzi (talk) 06:27, July 4, 2015 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Many Thanks
Thank you atvelonis, that helped a lot.

Sincerely,

TessaVarzi (talk) 06:56, July 4, 2015 (UTC)TessaVarzi

O_o Stupid porn pictures
Sorry to interupt Atlevon

Are these kind of pictures legal to be here  http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Special:NewFiles

Well as we could see, they're coming from these users http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/User:Ozc5mcz & http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/User:M4gwi8c

Again i'm so sorry to interupt  HÞXΠ  May Peace Be Upon You ✯|undefined  13:00, July 7, 2015 (UTC)


 * They were added to various wiki pages luckily i noticed when they started and removed them almost as soon as the were added and reported those two on vandalism page, although i think its probably the same person as soon as i reported the one they stopped and the other started. AzuraKnight (talk) 13:09, July 7, 2015 (UTC)


 * Glad i'm not the only one who noticed this, I personally don't understand what those fool were trying to do, what benefit would they got after uploading such things.....Respect....?!? yeah right   HÞXΠ  May Peace Be Upon You ✯|undefined  13:22, July 7, 2015 (UTC)


 * One of the images has been uploaded again (Flightmare removed the ones from earlier and banned the uploaders). AzuraKnight (talk) 15:41, July 10, 2015 (UTC)

Vandal
I noticed a user called User:Oblivionluver has been vandalizing images in a couple articles. I remember they made some sort of revision a couple days ago the the Follower (Skyrim) article, but did not notice what they did to an image until today after i noticed what they did to another image in the beastfolk article. I almost didn't notice that either. Lets just say the alterations they made to the images would have been rather inappropriate for younger viewers. Ser Pouce-a-lot (talk) 03:08, July 12, 2015 (UTC)


 * Also Skyrimluver i still think they still may be the same person on different ip's, the two who got blocked earlier and Sykrimluver all up loaded the same porn image. They appear to now be blocked in some way but the altered images are still on the server. AzuraKnight (talk) 10:41, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

Images
I have a question, how do users gain png images of weapons/armour like the one here? 18:12, July 18, 2015 (UTC)

Eye of Argonia and Team Online
It is community made, but it was implemented into the official launcher as something that could be optionally downloaded. Bethesda changed how Daggerfall could be downloaded a few months ago because with their previous installer users needed Administrator permission to work.

As for Team Online, I suggest you try the game out first and see if it works/if you're interested, though I will add you to the members list right now. It is a great game, it only got bad reviews when it was first released. The game runs at an average 50 - 60 FPS on Ultra for me and I use a fairly good laptop, so if you're using a custom-built gaming computer (especially with the specs you chose) I'm sure you'll have no trouble. For pictures, my computer takes them in 1920x1080, so when I crop them to 600x1000 they look fairly good (here's an example). I will warn you though, you can't freeze the game to move around and take pictures, every photo needs to be taken before the target moves. There's also people running around all the time in cities so they might get in the way. For specific projects, I'd say quests and locations. Locations usually just need maps, but quests are important since they need walkthroughs.

Also, for Template:Stub, I was thinking of replacing the Elder Scroll photo with File:Broken iron sword hilt.png. It just make more sense, as a stub is an incomplete page. The elder scroll and broken sword are complete opposites; the elder scroll contains endless divine knowledge while the sword is an incomplete weapon. I plan on taking a different picture of the sword so it shows as horizontal or diagonal, but let me know what you think. ☞ Rim < Talk 00:47, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

Checking In
Hey there Atvelonis. My brief hiatus from the wiki is over and I was looking over Moot results and logs (Part of me kind of knew Sajuuk would be back), and I'm digging what I'm seeing in the updates. I don't have an official concern to post here but I did notice you want to get more people involved in the Moot and I was wondering if there was anything I can do to help with the page itself (revisions maybe?) or promoting the thing? If you have it well in hand, that's cool too. I'll do my best to make this next Moot as a spectator, or if necessary, Moot Leader once again, but I wouldn't put all your eggs in that basket just yet. One more thing...

Dude, did someone totally post porn pics on here? XD

Madman97 (talk) 02:09, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

Vandal
User:RenzXVI brought user HelBOi! to my attention. They created this page THE SKIN,IT'S MEANING, and has been trolling in chat. I put a delete template in the nonsense page, and they keep removing it, becoming edit warring. This HelBOi! messaged me saying that somebody supposedly hijacked his account, but i have no way to prove that. I have my doubts. Ser Pouce-a-lot (talk) 16:01, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

Minor chat
Hey, I just wanted to ask if we could chat about something. It's minor and you may have noticed it already, but I just want to bring it to the attention of a sysop here, so it can be passed on to the others. --Sajuuk 18:12, July 24, 2015 (UTC)

From Kora
(This is a long message, I'm sorry bad habit)

Hey Altvelonis, I want to say I really, really appreciate what you've said. To be honest I didn't want to make the thread right yet, because I wanted to be able to have a bit more "ammo" and some sort of support, so I can have a better reason. Guess it's too late now xD Also, like many others I first noticed this wiki, because of it's awesome rp threads. You know, like the one-word story rp's and all that stuff? I didn't even have an account then, but I was here when those were still around, and that's why I used to love this wiki. Then I left for a while, came back, and see that..there isn't a lot going on. I mean I use the articles and all sometimes whenever I try and explain lore to my friend and help her better understand it, but like a lot of people said, the Rp's were what drawed them here in the first place, and helped them stay. If the rp is moved, then what use is it for them to stay here? What use does it even have being here if it's so limited?

I don't know...I mean I just saw the "sweetroll rp" closed, just the same as monitor's was. Same reason. Why can't people just get rid of the notifications and leave it that way? The wiki would have a lot more people, which equals  a lot more editing and ideas. I mean...last thing I want to do is to sound needy, but I need some support out there, because I know why it should be but I just find it hard to explain, if that makes some sense? (I really don't wanna make a fool out of myself since I just got here and am really trying hard to be good xD) The vote isn't looking too good, but I wanna be able to find a way to pick it up again, because I feel like there could be some other way than the "comprimise". But if you don't want to, I understand completely. Sorry for the "super long dramatic message" and all of that xD But yeah, I really thank you for telling me that, it lifted up my mood, and it's good to know that atleast someone agrees. Kora Stormblade (talk) 21:52, August 5, 2015 (UTC)

Minor Explination
Hey Atvelonis, I saw your post to Kora and Monitor about their CT. The issue of the flooding from the RPs was not about the mainspace edits being pushed aside because, as you yourself pointed out, they can be filtered. The problem was that the RP activity took up like 90% of the whole Forum activity. There is no way to filter specific boards out of the Recent Changes so it made the job of the Forum Mods much harder, I know from experience as I was a Forum Mod at the time. 14:49, August 6, 2015 (UTC)


 * This was brought up a few months ago during the CT. We learned that it is not something that can be done on our end, only Wikia could change that. I believe that and Admin did contact them and they said they were not interested in doing that because it would require them to re-do a lot of programing on their forums, which would cost time and money.
 * The color thing would made it easier to see the RPs but ultimately wouldn't solve the problem, the flooding of the forum activities. However I think it is possible to do this color thing by messing with our Wiki's code. Don't know if it is allowed by Wikia, though.
 * At the RP Board's peak it there were over 20 active RP threads a day, meaning hundreds of new posts a day. Hell, popular RP threads could easily get over 200 posts in a day. I personally witnessed a thread that got over 500 in two days.
 * I think a new compromise is unecessary. Almost all the RPers that were active back during the Hub vote have already moved on, either to the Sandbox or to another side. The remaining RPers here are very few, most of which joined up after the Hub Vote. Which explains why they are unaware of the events of a few months ago. I can personally testify for all the Sandbox users in that they don't intend to come back to RPing here should the restriction be lifted or lightened. Increasing the number of active RP here, while it would not bring back old users, would slowly increase the new RP community that has formed here. RPers are very passionate about their hobby so I garrantee that if the restriction is lightened, in a few months they will request the number of active RPs to increase again...and then again a few months later, etc. A new RP community would grow and eventually this Wiki would be right back at how it was a few months ago, with 90% of the Forum Activities consisting of RP threads. Causing the same situation from the Hub vote to happen again. 10:59, August 7, 2015 (UTC)

Hello
Hello Aeathel (talk) 20:01, August 6, 2015 (UTC)

Shadow of Conflict
thanks for correcting me on Shadow of Conflict.

(LordPicard (talk) 04:21, August 7, 2015 (UTC))

Help with your book
Hey Atvelonis, I finally found my book to help with Infernal City but I was going to ask if it is okay for me to start where you left off? I didnt know how else to contact you but Ive heard that whenever two people edit it can sometimes cause issues if they do it at the same time. --Kora Stormblade (talk) 18:00, August 8, 2015 (UTC)

Reply to feedback.
Hello! I just saw your message because I had been away from home for some time. Thank you, knowing that your work is useful makes you feel great and knowing how to improve it is very useful. I really appreciate it! :)

About the images, I was told they had to be uploaded 600x1000 and that I could get that size editing with paint. That's what I've been doing, but they do look kind of distorted sometimes, Fafnyr isn't that fat. ): You mentioned cropping the image would make it look better, can you tell me more about how to do that?

Thank you once again. :)

Sweetroll Scrolls (talk) 00:37, August 9, 2015 (UTC)


 * Hello, thanks for the advice, I will definetely check that out. Thanks for helping! :)


 * Sweetroll Scrolls (talk) 00:29, August 11, 2015 (UTC)

Re: All-Maker
The deities template seems to be more in reference to the gods stated in Varieties of Faith in the Empire. The All-Maker does not see widespread worship in Nordic culture, so it probably shouldn't be included in the Template.

Dovahsebrom (talk) 20:50, August 9, 2015 (UTC)

Chat Troll / Spammer
Are you still online? Some guy came in the chat and is being a pain... 23:47, August 9, 2015 (UTC)


 * help in chat EVIL DR VON TACOS (talk) 00:03, August 10, 2015 (UTC) Dr Von

Need Help Editing
Hello Atvelonis, I need some help on a wiki sanbox page to add new information that Kora Stormblade and I have been testing. It is going to be on the Horse (Skyrim) page to post that some horses at stables respawn after they die. The last sandbox page you gave me I forgot to save it. I will need help on setup and placing it in the correct page. Also if you could help test the PC portion of it, and I will make sure that if you do to give you credit on your work. Testing on the XBox 360 is mostely complete, we just need to test Riften Stables. I also need a person to test on PS3 for me, so if you know someone please let me know so I can get in contact with them. Thanks for reading this.

Thank you

Qahnaarin1997 (talk) 01:32, August 10, 2015 (UTC)

TES novels
I saw in the weekly update that you are reading the TES novels, and will add content to the wiki about them. I have already read both books, and would like to help you out with the project. Emperor Maximus (talk) 10:45, August 11, 2015 (UTC)


 * Sounds good. I'll start in a few days, because I myself am also away for a few days soon. Emperor Maximus (talk) 10:52, August 12, 2015 (UTC)

Hall of Valor & Sovngarde
Hey, Atvelonis. I hope you are enjoying your trip and I know you are probably too busy to read this. I edited the pages Hall of Valor and Sovngarde and subsequently realized they were meant to be lore pages. I edited them to have the proper Skyrim infoboxes and Location IDs. I believe we should have separate pages for them as they are in the game, and as lore. Thoughts?

Thanks. — AutoBlood  Talk  01:49, August 12, 2015 (UTC)


 * No worries, I hope you enjoyed your trip. I agree with you that Sovngarde should get a lore page while the Hall of Valor doesn't, I only mentioned the latter as it was previously setup as a lore page. Your page naming sounds good to me as well. At the most, as for lore, Hall of Valor can have a section in the Sovngarde lore page, and a page for the location in Skyrim.


 * Thanks for getting back to me. — AutoBlood  Talk  22:36, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

New Skyrim Pages
I know you're on a plane and all, but there's a few new Skyrim pages being created. Just leaving this link here Special:UncategorizedPages so you can have a look when you get the chance. I'm not sure of they're needed or not, and don't want to tag them for deletion if its unnecessary. Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 20:39, August 30, 2015 (UTC)

Character Images
Hi, thanks for the advice you gave earlier. In regards to editing image size (i.e to 600x1000 pixels), can that be done post-upload or does it need to be edited at source then re-uploaded? Bronkiin (talk) 17:08, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Image
i was trying to show the player receving the ritual from the GraybeardsQWOP1243 (talk) 23:08, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Further to earlier...
As you may have noticed I have begun re-uploading images based on the standards you identified. However, I have found that with most merchants, a full body image is impossible as they stand behind a counter. As you can see with the uploaded image of 'Drivas', getting a full body image sacrifices certain elements (here, he is not looking into the camera, and there is clutter in the way). Can there be exceptions to the full body rule for merchants? Or  is there a method which makes it possible? PS. As you'll see I've accidentally added an incorrect category for Drivas.png (it's late!), would you mind correcting that?! Bronkiin (talk) 23:15, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Appearances
Yeah, you're right about the Appearances section. For some reason I thought it needed the base game (like Skyrim or Online) even if there was no appearance/mention in the base game (school starting has my brain messed up haha). Ofc that would get confusing for the reader anyways. --Shockstorm (talk) 23:35, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Czech wiki
Community Central people are being lazy or somethin, and didn't link to the right Czech wiki (see here). As you can see from Alduin's Wall (Lore), it's still linking to the less active one. Could you give them a kick in the butt and see what's up? :p --Shockstorm (talk) 23:23, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Skyrim Quotes
Hey Atv. I'm sorry I'm late on this but if there are any quotes you know that are needed for an article on Skyrim you can leave a message on my talk page and I will see what I can do on it. Qahnaarin1997 (talk) 00:14, September 9, 2015 (UTC)

Groves Template
Hey Atvelonis! I found that Template:SkyrimGroves is visually out of date from all the other Skyrim templates, and that the majority of pages use Template:SkyrimLocations instead. All Grove articles have been updated to match this, and the Groves template is no longer used. Not sure if you guys delete old templates or anything, but if you do that one can go now. -- { 13:19, September 15, 2015 (UTC) }

Xarxes
Hey Atvelonis,

I thought the same thing. Normally I would not have created an article for both but I made an exception as they were differently titled. The screenshot I had was Xarxes and Oghma, yet the one already on the wiki (albeit incorrectly linked) was simply Xarxes. My inclination would be two titles, two books, two articles; but I'll leave that judgement down to you. Regards, Bronkiin (talk) 15:05, September 15, 2015 (UTC)

Oblivion: Count Marius Caro Quote
Hi Atvelonis, I was wondering if you it would be okay to add a quote for Count Marius Caro in Oblivion. I was thinking on adding one quote he says about hunting the reminence of the Black Bow Bandits. If you could leave the info I need on my talk page that would be great. Qahnaarin1997 (talk) 15:55, September 15, 2015 (UTC)

Arniel's Shade
Hey I have come across this a few times. Arniel's shade, while not summoned, walks around Skyrim. This is the third time I found him. This time I took pictures, notes, and followed him. I haven't seen anyone else say anything about him wandering. Do you know any more about why he might be walking around? Maybe a quest maybe an easteregg? Also sometimes there is a weird shapped iceberg in the ocean. I was able to swim out to it once, well beyond the edge of the map. It appeared to be an abandoned project. There was a bridge connecting two icebergs, and no way up. I tried scaling the side then fell and died without a save. I have been unable to locate the iceberg again. T4copathic (talk) 20:38, September 15, 2015 (UTC) t4cop4thic

Davon's Watch and Darnim Watch
Hi, I read your message about Davon's Watch and Darnim Watch. To be honest, I really just based it off of the names, locations, an early concept map for Morrowind , and on the UESP's page for Davon's watch (Link). I realize that this doesn't quite confirm anything, but it seemed like enough for an edit.

Haystavk (talk) 23:10, September 15, 2015 (UTC)

Question
Hey Atv, I have a question. I'm trying to fix some of the IDs, and I'm into some of the Dawnguard characters. I notice some of them have xx in them (like {xx00000}} and all that. Do I replace that with {DLC ID|00000}}? I just wanna double check, because I don't want to make too many mistakes since I've been editing a lot of articles lately. (btw, thank you for fixing up mine, I'm trying to follow what you've changed). -Kora Stormblade (talk) 01:43, September 16, 2015 (UTC)


 * Okay, I'll make sure to replace the xx with the dlc thing then. Thanks for the help! :D -Kora Stormblade (talk) 01:49, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

Moot Thingy
Sorry I didn't get time to reply back to the stuff I asked in PM! Nope there is no Imperial Shipment Camp article, and I don't have the guide myself so I'll wait to split it until you can confirm that that's the proper name, and build up the articles in the meanwhile. -- { 02:33, September 20, 2015 (UTC) }

Wiki History
Hi Atvelonis,

Hope you don't mind but I've added some information to the Wiki's history in your Sandbox. It is based on previous research I'd done on some of the TalkPages of the site's earliest admins. Tamper with it as you feel fit!

Regards, Bronkiin (talk) 13:54, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

Wikia History Lessons
You know, when you told me about your sandbox, I immediatly gave it a once-over, and I am surprised you asked me to improve on it because you did a damn good job already. In fact, I am curious to know. How the heck did you get all of this information? And if there is a method, would you be inclined to share? Also, from looking at it's detail, I realize I may not be able to help you as much as I initially thought in regards with giving information for what happened through mid-2013 through now other than a general user's outlook on what was happening at the time. Maybe you can sift some valuable information from it by comparing notes with other, more documented users. I found Jimeee's closing CT's on his main page to be quite a good source for the attitude of the wiki at the time.

From my perspective, the community throughout 2013 was in good shape, though there was often bickering with Civil War arguments to the point where it was considered taboo in chat, or MK lore (which I contributed often). Due to bickering, the community suffered a bit of a slow decline and many of the users that were on earlier in the year vacated themselves due to personal and community turmoil. Pretty sure it had to do with chat mods or staff rights. There was a brief break and a lot of the users that left found themselves on the wikia again in the community pages but not nearly as populace as they were before. This was early 2014, and things really started taking a turn for the worst as time went on. It was a general blur of petty arguing up to the summer months and then things with Zippertrain85 and SuperSajuuk, probably the most historic of users on this wiki besides moi, started to escalate.

I ran through Jimeee's, Sajuuk's, and Zipper's old threads and archives to see what I could find. Really, all of its on Jimeee's page, links and all. Come August, Jimeee finally left the wiki. An actually well documented find on that particular event can be found here: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Madman97/The_Status_of_the_Chat

And then everyone left and GhostAnubis was left in charge. A few weeks past, maybe a few months, and I came back to see how everyone was doing and I found LabCoatBilly in chat. We talked a few minutes and he noted how terrible of a job every Admin was doing, mostly regarding the roleplay decision that pissed a lot of people off, and I was inspired to blog about that too:

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Madman97/The_Deterioration_of_this_Wikia

The reason I often say I caused the events afterwards, which I think are still as fresh in memory for you as they are me, is because after I made that particular blog, EVERYONE started to blog and talk about it. See here when we start off the new year in turmoil. It's surprising, I documented a lot of what was going on at the time, more than I remember doing. If you take the time to sift through them, I think you will find a few useful things.

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Madman97/What_Fun!_More_Wikia_Drama!

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Madman97/Political_Agenda

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Madman97/The_Reunification_of_the_Community

Madman97 (talk) 00:39, September 22, 2015 (UTC)


 * In case you didn't see my edited message above^


 * Madman97 (talk) 00:44, September 22, 2015 (UTC)

Redirects
Hey Atvelonis. I've noticed you have been restoring valid redirects and I applaud this effort. I don't know why "certain users" felt it necessary to delete hundreds of redirects and pipe links to evade said redirects, but at least I have confidence that these efforts are being reverted and proper redirects being restored (why they were deleted is a mystery and I even asked the admins why they kept on deleting these redirects at the time...). :) --Sajuuk 08:08, September 22, 2015 (UTC)

Chat Moderation Concerns
Sir, I would like to clarify that my ban from the chat was comfirmed by you and not a mere anecdotal choice by RenzXVI. I have recieved several passive aggressive interactions from him, and I want to assure that this ban is not unjust. Ralvz&#39;jeshka Shakaraph (talk) 22:50, September 22, 2015 (UTC)

Picture Removal
Hey Atv. I'm trying to remodel my page, and I removed my image from my page and don't really need it anymore. As such, I thought about policy and it doesn't have a page. No page is removal, if I'm right. I couldn't quite get to it (if I even can,) so it's here.

And sorry if this seems a little thrown to pieces, I did this a little faster than I wanted. Thanks!

14:11, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

TP problem
Yo! Can you possibly settle this? I'm not going to get into a revert war with this user, seeing as how they're violating the policy on talkpages, which clearly states not to respond to dead discussions: me removing the message is valid because responding to an old discussion is pointless, but the user above doesn't seem to care for it. Thanks! --Sajuuk 12:52, September 30, 2015 (UTC)
 * Actually it's not policy, it's just something he wrote up without getting consensus because he wanted to remove some messages from his talk page (see his talk page history if you're curious). I don't really care about it one way or the other, but I did want to make it clear that he can't just remove messages for no reason. --Shockstorm (talk) 20:07, September 30, 2015 (UTC)
 * @Shockstorm: Actually, I did get a consensus on that matter. Not my problem if you can't pay any attention to the consensus track forum. Plenty of people supported the addition of the talkpage policy. If you care enough, the thread is here: Thread:835462.
 * The talkpage policy is a common-sense policy. The page was made simply to reiterate these in a way that it can be referenced on talkpages when reminding people of its existence.
 * And no, I didn't call for its implementation just so it could benefit my user talkpage. The policy says not to reply to a dead discussion, so if someone does that, I'll remove the message because there's no reason to respond to dead talkpage discussions anywhere at anytime. What reason is there to respond to a discussion from months gone past to add nothing new?
 * It's common practice on many wiki's on the internet. Just because you don't like something does not mean you can just blatantly ignore the policy and pretend it doesn't exist.
 * I would appreciate you to stop attacking and making accusations about editors every time they disagree with something you do, because it just makes it look like you can't take criticism from anyone. But I'm not surprised, because you do it all the time when you don't get your own way. :)
 * @Atvelonis: Thanks for looking into the matter! I'll leave it in your hands since you will be able to keep calm about the situation. :) --Sajuuk 20:26, September 30, 2015 (UTC)

Delete
Hey, User:Jfcullison2 created the page Best Wife. Could you please delete it, thanks. :) Starkiller131 (talk) 16:32, September 30, 2015 (UTC)

ID trouble
Hey Atv, I was just wondering what to do about Shivering Isles IDs. I thought you said to add the DLC ID to them, but I saw on a weapon article that they shouldn't have it, and they need to be regular? I'm not quite sure what to do with them. --


 * Ah, alright. I'm gonna re-do my edits then and correct them to the regular IDs then. Thank you for letting me know!

Re: Archives
Thank you for deleting my failed archives :3 However I did not ask you to move my archive? I like them letters instead of numbers. I don't remember requesting this. But thanks again :3 &#8752; High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia &#937; Mighty Ruler of the Gods &#8859; ( talk ) &#5099; 10:55, October 5, 2015 (UTC)
 * I had requested that. The script that automates archiving does it by numbers and that can't be changed per-individual talkpage. If Finelia tries to archive again using the tool, it will just keep creating Archive 1 every time she moves that archive to a word version of the number, because it will believe that Archive 1 doesn't exist. Hence, using the numbers will prevent that from happening and also prevent any bugs from occurring if a redirect is left when moving. --Sajuuk 15:40, October 5, 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks I would appreciate that :3 As for what Sajuuk said I will archive them manually so I don't have to move the pages every time. Whether you use numbers of letters the template will recognise it as an archive either way so I don't see a problem. &#8752; High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia &#937; Mighty Ruler of the Gods &#8859; ( talk ) &#5099; 18:28, October 5, 2015 (UTC)

Adding a few emotes
Hey Atvelonis!

I wanted to ask you about adding a few emotes to the wiki chat. Keeping this short, I would like to request that we add "\o" to the wiki, in Community as a reversed wave.

While this request seems kind of stupid, there has been a lot of the usage of "o/" lately (and I havn't been helping it...) I clearly understand if you don't do this, however, the idea is quick and simple if you know what to do, only need a link to the photo and the text, if I'm correct.

Thanks! 18:20, October 5, 2015 (UTC)

Blog
Hey. I'm not really sure if this blog is suitable, as it sounds like something that should probably be on TES Sandbox. --Sajuuk 20:18, October 5, 2015 (UTC)

Moot Timings
Hey Atv,

The plan with Moot timings is 6 hours earlier as opposed to later. Would you be able to make that?

Regards, Bronkiin (talk) 17:05, October 8, 2015 (UTC)

Vandalism
Hey. I'm sorry for vandalising or whatever. I was just editing some pages to give them more sense in my opinion.. I'll cease with it, though. Have a nice day.

Silver4Raven (talk) 06:34, October 10, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Timeline
Thanks for the heads up Atvelonis! I didn't know about that change.

— AutoBlood  Talk  01:25, October 11, 2015 (UTC)

Reiklings and Dune
I would like to talk to you about the recent stuff you have been editing.

First, I would like to know how to add flags like you did on the Dune page.

Second, I would like to say like I think Rieklings are similar to Grunts. Both are small in size, speak in a gibberish/gruntish lanuage, and use large numbers to attack thier foes.

Noir (talk) 20:04, October 13, 2015 (UTC)


 * I will talk to The Cat Master about it.. Thanks!


 * Silver4Raven (talk) 18:53, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

Formatting
Hey Atv! I would have asked you on chat, but my chat's down right now (talking to wikia about it.) Sorry to bother you, hope you got a moment. I looked at this page and saw that the formatting doesn't include the "" and such. I'm requesting that, if permissible, the IDs can be throw into there. I've almost done all the IDs for Skyrim so that the ID template is included (my process can be seen here if you want) I just don't want any users making any mistakes, if you get what I mean.

I'm also predicting that all the other pages are like that as well. Thanks for the assistance!

17:57, October 14, 2015 (UTC)


 * And I guess I should say thanks, cleaning up my project page helps me out quite a bit. Confused me a little, but I was too lazy to get around to fixing it. I was...perplexed... when everything was blue, at first, though! But yeah, thank you for helping me with that one. Didn't expect it.
 * 21:15, October 14, 2015 (UTC)

Bothering you yet again!
Hey Atvelonis!

Sorry to pester you over what would feel to me to be mundane (and I would have asked you on chat, however, my chat is still messing up,) but I wanted to ask you if we could add a few userboxes as templates. It should be all of the ones in this category on my sandbox as well as the one, "Werebear" template below it. It should be and so on.

By the way, glad to announce, everything for the IDs in Skyrim should be done! There are some 400 pages in books I need to go over, then I'll be done. Renz said he done them all, but still going over them anyway.

Thank you for all that you do!

21:01, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

VIP
Hey Atv,

Will do, wasn't entirely sure as to the process at the time, but I'll bear it in mind!

Regards, Bronkiin (talk) 11:22, October 16, 2015 (UTC)

Nir
While I'm normally against creating articles doomed to be stub, I would say that, seeing as we don't organize deities as the UESP would, Nir does need its own article.

Dovahsebrom (talk) 21:38, October 16, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Chat
Sorry but i don't use the chat. While i'm here on a Admin's page some of the forums boards have vanished, they still exist but don't show up on the forum page (for me at least). AzuraKnight (talk) 15:27, October 17, 2015 (UTC)


 * Someone just made a thread in one of the boards i can't see maybe its regional (no idea), i have tried clearing the cache and a diffrent browser just in case it was me. Sorry again but no chat. AzuraKnight (talk) 15:59, October 17, 2015 (UTC)


 * I'd rather not but i wouldn't go so far as to refuse it. AzuraKnight (talk) 09:37, October 21, 2015 (UTC)

Regarding minor formatting styles
I noticed you reverted my edits to the Ocato page. For some reason, it was showing up blank no matter how many times I refreshed/null edited, and after I made an actual edit it was fixed. This is likely due to File:Ocato (Daggerfall).png. I attempted to add the image in the edit where I added the Daggerfall mention, but it was glitched saying the file name was broken.

Anyways, I thought I should clear that up, but there's something else. Please do not put Template:Start box and Template:End box between two boxes on the same page. The reason the succession box cannot be added with just one template is because sometimes people like Ocato can hold two different ranks. The start and end boxes are just there so that every box is compacted together, not separate, so separating the boxes is unneeded and makes the purpose of how the template is coded obsolete.

Also, when the "}}" is under an infobox (usually under the Base ID) it is so that templates like For and Confuse can be added beside it, and so that not too much code is crushed into one line. It is formatted this way on the doc templates too. It is in my list of moot suggestions to clear this up, but I haven't been able to present it because of the recent time change, though I will be able to on the Nov 7 moot. ☞ Rim < Talk 01:48, October 20, 2015 (UTC)

Template Spacing
Hey Atvel! So I heard you've tasked some users with spacing out templates in source mode.... Aren't there better things they could be doing? ^__^ Also, why so many spaces? It's only to keep the source code neat, I get that, but it seems like a lot of effort for a very small return. Do you have bigger plans for this I just don't know of and I'm making a twit of myself right now? XD -- { 12:37, October 20, 2015 (UTC) }
 * ^ I agree with Bluesonic. These edits are a waste of time and there are far better things that should be done (eg combining infoboxes and centralising them is a more important task). Yeah sure, they look nicer in source, but not everyone uses source mode and it's essentially a futile effort. MediaWiki automatically strips out whitespace, so the end result is the same, whether there is hundreds of spaces or not: hidden formatting edits don't do anything to improve the wiki and just add pointless revisions that people have to click through in the history. --Sajuuk 12:46, October 20, 2015 (UTC)


 * Ahh that makes some sense lol. I just saw a few users editing just for those spaces and then two different people bring it up in chat, so I was confused as to why it had become such a thing. I think they took your request a little too seriously XD -- { 15:32, October 20, 2015 (UTC) }

Chat
Come back on chat. ShawnHowellsCP (talk) 03:59, October 21, 2015 (UTC)

Come to chat
Stop by the chat when you get the chance, thanks in advance. Zippertrain85 (talk) 15:32, October 22, 2015 (UTC)