User blog comment:Zippertrain85/Why the Stormcloaks are right./@comment-6336669-20130507202240/@comment-3217145-20130518060633

The handful of Argonians in Windhelm attacking without warning would be against their better reason. They would lose.mAttacking Morrowind was different. If roles were reversed, the Dunmer would have attacked their Argonian oppressors in the same situation. With or without the Hist, their behavior as a race is the same as that of any other. They're no more dangerous.

I'm not providing evidence of that because it has nothing to do with my point. You said that all that racist garbage about Khajiits is objectively true. It isn't. That doesn't mean that NO Khajiits do those things. It means that NOT ALL of them do, and saying they do is just racist.

The overwhelming majority of Altmer are like that because their parents are like that and the culture of their homeland is like that. But you find plenty of examples of elves in other situations who just talk to the Dragonborn and other people normally and don't show any signs of being the horrible monsters you claim they are. And there's Legate Fasendil, who's dedicated to protecting all Imperial citizens even if they don't want him there, and hates the Dominion. He even mentions "Altmer dissidents" that the Dominion was slaughtering. Clearly, they aren't all united just because of their race. Your claim doesn't fly.

Okay, you've said this a few times now. Since when is the Dominion trying to "destroy the world?" They're trying to do the same thing the various European countries of the world (and any other country who had the power to do so) were doing: spread their religious views, crush opposing ones, enslave all the "sub-human" or "barbaric" cultures and take over. The parallel stands.

A Nord's capacity for Shouting has nothing to do with this, and I specifically excluded it in my example. It's physiological.

I kill Falmer because they attack me unprovoked. Their mental capacity is stunted. They've been pushed back to the level of Goblins and Rieklings, who are able to use tools but unable to reason and talk (except the ones in Thirsk Mead Hall, who I didn't kill). If I encountered some Falmer that didn't attack me, or who talked and tried to help me, I wouldn't kill them. I also didn't try to kill the helpful, repentant Snow Elf in Dawnguard, but I killed the other one because he was insane and tried to kill me.

I kill Forsworn too, even though they're human, because they attack me. They're also pains in the ass who keep raiding other people and killing at random, which is why they should be wiped out. But I don't kill Bretons in Markarth because of that, because they didn't do anything.

Altmer being racist is not the same thing. It doesn't matter if the outliers are rare, they exist. This shows that it's not genetic, it's cultural. Consider also the very real facts they are pointing to when they make the superiority claim: they were the most civilized first, they remain the most advanced culture, they have extremely long lives, the highest affinity for magic, and they're really tall. The ones that you meet are also very old (being adult elves), and have been raised for years, maybe centuries, told that they're better. It's RACISM. It's not genetic.

What you don't seem to be getting is that I'm not the one saying racism doesn't exist, you are. It's a huge sticking point surrounding the Civil War quest in Skyrim and comes up throughout the game. Bethesda clearly wanted you to take that into consideration and weigh the racism against the other factors when making your choice. You're saying racism doesn't matter, Nords get to call Khajiits "rugs" and kick people out of their city, and it's perfectly justified. Then you turn around and say the Altmer or horrible because they're so racist. It's just absurd. Racism is there and it matters. We get to talk about it.