User blog comment:Spritydove/Deeper Thought into the Civil War/@comment-1840877-20120629132604/@comment-3472264-20120701140429

Ulfric also caused a war that was unneeded, the court wizard of Solitude will even tell you that Torygg respected Ulfric for having the idea of a free Skyrim and that had Ulfric simply stood up and said so Torygg might have declared independance causing the whole situation to be even more ridiculous.