User talk:Atvelonis/Archive 6

Chat
Hey atvel, can you come in the chat please ?Emperor Jarjarkine (Talk) 17:55, January 12, 2016 (UTC)

Weird Notification
Hey Atve, I'm sure I misunderstood, but I got a notice that my latest interview was deleted or moved?

Madman97 (talk) 00:36, January 13, 2016 (UTC)


 * Ah, I see. Thanks for clearing that up!


 * Madman97 (talk) 04:55, January 13, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Cyrodilic
Wow, that's pretty confusing, it's spelled Cyrodiil so I thought it should be Cyrodiilic. The disturbing part is that I asked other people on chat that time on what they thought about it, Kora and Ottoman Hold also thought it was Cyrodiilic. Most people probably spell it wrong. :( Sorry. 05:01, January 14, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Image categorization
Okay, I'll use proper categories next time. I was already in a hurry after I messed some things up while uploading the images, but next time I'll be more careful :)The Lusty Dovahkiin (talk) 11:45, January 14, 2016 (UTC)

New Pages
Hey Atvelonis! I hope all is well.

I have a dungeons that I recorded last night. I remembered you saying that we should add all of the city pages with time -- I'm predicting we need dungeons too. And, most of the dungeons start with "The", do I put "The" in the pagename? Not all dungeons have "The" 1 vs 150 others, and some seem to be typed up wrong with "THe".

So, what should I do? I've got tests today, so your best bet is to leave a message at my talkpage. Thanks!

Daggerfall Images
As you may have noticed with Dunastyr Mastering, Alabastyr Wickhouse, and Agrastyr Copperhart that many characters in Daggerfall have the same sprite. At first I was determined to "photograph" each static individual in the game and use it in that character's page, but in a game with upwards of 7,000 people It became increasingly clear it would be impractical to clutter the image feed with multiples or near duplicates. Would you rather I continue creating a new image for each individual, like the more recent games' pages or to just have one picture and use it for each "twin" sprite?

Thank You. The Boy Who Cried Godzilla (talk) 02:01, January 16, 2016 (UTC)


 * Sounds swell. I'll Get on that soon. Thanks again!The Boy Who Cried Godzilla (talk) 02:55, January 16, 2016 (UTC)

Moot Topic
Hi Atv, I have a topic for the moot, but I won't be able to come to it. Can you come to chat? Ottoman Hold (talk) 19:27, January 16, 2016 (UTC)

RE: The Project Is Complete
I appreciate you finally giving it a read and thank you for your positive support. This was definitely the hardest one I have had to do and I think the guys running the FCP were impressed (I already applied; they already replied). I'm just waiting on them processing my information and we'll go from there. If this works out, I have no one but you to thank. Don't worry about me focusing on them either. I will still release interviews and other blogs on here as well. --Madman97 (talk) 20:39, January 17, 2016 (UTC)

Team Daggerfall
Hello, Atv!

I was once again trying to poke around a bit on the decoration of the Team Daggerfall page (something I normally do when I get bored, and I can't quite edit that well with my internet speed) and I wanted to fill out the infobox on the "Creation Date", as well as the "Creator", however, I'm unsure who made the team/when this all happened. I made a prediction for the date on the page, however, I have no clue as to who exactly founded it. If you have any clue, I'd be glad to hear it (Or better yet, just add it to the page).

Furthermore, I was poking around on some of the other guild pages to get an idea as to how Daggerfall's should be laid out, and I kind of figured that the guild had an awful color scheme, at least, in my opinion. As guildmaster, I do have permission to change the color, right? I was thinking for more of the Daggerfall green on all of the Daggerfall locations -- Although I kind of feel like that's ugly too, it'd be way better than that shade of blue.

Last, I got to thinking about inviting a user or two to join the guild -- something I would have to do one time or another, if I'm going to bring the Team system any meaning. However, I don't feel like I should kick out the older, inactive users in the guild quite yet. Is there a limit to the number of members I have?

Hehe, hope I didn't leave too much to read, I know it's close to it. Thanks!!

Re:Deletion Candidates
No problem. Btw, I'm not able to commit to a daily amount of images, but I can look at getting some images for stuff we need as I go through Pact areas. My graphics aren't top-notch or anything due to my computer, but I might be able to get some decent images (and certainly the loading screens, since those are easy). --Shockstorm (talk) 21:56, January 18, 2016 (UTC)

Vilkas
I'm not sure if you are the right person to tell this or not but if you aren't I'm sure you'll know who is and be able to pass it on :). On the NPC ID page for the console commands Vilkas's one has been put in wrong. The site has it as '0001a694' but actually it is '0001a695'.

Just thought I should let someone know as I spent a lot of time tring to work out why I couldn't move to him

86.172.214.79 02:15, January 20, 2016 (UTC)

Kaider

Daggerfall Chronicles
Hey Atv,

Jumping off of what you said in chat earlier about the Daggerfall Chronicles, I'd love to see those photos if you get a second. If you could, place it on my talkpage instead of telling me on chat, so I don't forget where they're at. :P Thanks!

Soft Disambigs
I tried it out, and I want to hear what you have to say about Wabbajack. It was one of the many which would be better off like that. I tried to base it off of Alteration, the soft disambig example. I think it looks good, especially with the catagories taken care of the disambig and the lore:item stuff. So, what do you think? Ottoman Hold (talk) 00:44, January 24, 2016 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks. I also agree that it needs more. Ottoman Hold (talk) 16:38, January 25, 2016 (UTC)

Comprehensive articles
Thanks for your message! I will come back to you tomorrow, as I'm very busy today, but I'm glad you brought it up. I was already thinking of looking for a suitable candidate because having some of the Morrowind articles featured as Comprehensive article will set a good standard for future work on Morrowind character articles. Mondblueme (talk) 08:47, January 24, 2016 (UTC)

Image deletions
I can't rember if it was you I was discussing this with, but if we are using the same image for each character type, could you please delete

Agrastyr Copperheart.PNG

and

Alabastyr Wickhouse.PNG

and replace them in their respective articles with Dunastyr Mastering.PNG? The Boy Who Cried Godzilla (talk) 01:33, January 25, 2016 (UTC)

Comprehensive articles candidates
So, I have looked through my edits and have a list of possible Comprehensive articles for you. It would be good if someone could double-check for grammar and style though, as English is a foreign language for me...

The first list includes some of the major characters, many of them playing a part in the game's main quest. The following list contains completed articles of minor characters. All of them are involved in quests, though. I hope this is helpful to you. Have a great day! Mondblueme (talk) 10:18, January 25, 2016 (UTC)
 * Falura Llervu
 * Han-Ammu
 * Manirai
 * Plitinius Mero
 * Sonummu Zabamat
 * Trels Varis
 * Ulath-Pal
 * Aleri Aren
 * Bedal Alen
 * Eraldil
 * Gadayn Andarys
 * Gee-Pop Varis
 * Glathel
 * Granny Varis
 * Ivulen Irano
 * Malur Omayn
 * Milvela Dralen
 * Therdon
 * Thrud

Thank you for the reply
Hello, you replied to my text on Pelinal Whitestrake's page some time ago, and just wanted to thank you for the links which I hope I'll live through reading. I think I'll give the lore-guide a shot before I contact Dovahsebrom. Pelinal got back for a moment and answered a few questions too, thank you for your time and contribution to this place!

Voidcube (talk) 19:32, January 25, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Phantasys
Hello there! I wanted to apologise for causing chaos by replying to Phant...that guy! I only got your warning message today, therefore I didn't know it was against the rules to fight a flamewar. He started this, but it doesn't really matter. I went it too far as well. Sorry again.

High King Emeric (talk) 22:22, January 26, 2016 (UTC)

Categories
Hey Atv, I was looking around and I didn't see a category for ESO quest items. I'm just wondering if we needed one. Thanks! Ottoman Hold (talk) 17:41, January 28, 2016 (UTC)
 * It already exists. --Shockstorm (talk) 18:44, January 28, 2016 (UTC)

AutoWikiBrowser
Hey Atvelonis!!

I was poking around the old mediawiki stuff, and noticed a program called AutoWikiBrowser. I checked it out, and turns out it could likely help me out with editing infoboxes a huge amount -- by sorting out what pages I haven't edited, and taking me straight to them.

AutoWikiBrowser isn't a bot, I control all of the inputs into the pages 100%. However, I wanted to check with you before coming close to starting it up on the wiki, as I recall that last user that used it got banned for it....

Anywho, this tool would help me out by far with infoboxes, however, I would much rather check with you first then have even a slight chance of getting banned over it (Me likely being overly cautious again :P)

Thanks!!!!

Forum Edits
Hi there, sorry to bother you! If you could please ask AzuraKnight to stop editing my forum posts when I use code tags to differentiate between normal text and console commands, that would be hugely appreciated :) As far as I've found from reading the available policies, there is no rule against its use and it's really handy to make my intentions clear to readers so my solutions can be quickly used or my issue more easily understood so help can be given faster with less questions. Hope you're having a lovely afternoon :) -- { 12:08, January 29, 2016 (UTC) }
 * I guess thats reasonable as long as it's just and just for commands. AzuraKnight (talk) 15:03, January 29, 2016 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't call it "reasonable". You've explained this reasoning to me before and I explained why it wasn't justified and you continue to edit not only my posts, but those of others, to the point where I've had to ask a sysop to get involved. Your coloured name doesn't allow you to make up rules as you wish. Either you apply through the Consensus forum and get it added as official policy where it can be voted on by the whole community and if accepted, applied to everyone equally and with reason, or otherwise just use common sense to edit only those who genuinely are causing issues with it such as giant text or bright colours. Sorry for sounding so harsh, but I'm just really tired of having my posts edited for something that isn't actually a rule when I wasn't even abusing the said tools in the first place.
 * -- { 15:31, January 29, 2016 (UTC) }

Troublesome user
NumaFrost59 has been making many comments in what i think is Hungarian (although has shown they know English), using translators doesn't work too well but some pretty offensive things do seem to have been said. And just now a anonymous user has posted something mentioning mothers on my talk page in Hungarian after having just removed some of the comments. AzuraKnight (talk) 16:05, January 30, 2016 (UTC)

New message
I have been banned from chat, and in the case right before being banned Someone said I was agreed to perma banned, I believe it was a mistake as I only have been kicked once, therefor I should have a one week ban. I wish for your help to work this out for me as it was an honest mistake that got me banned. I accept punishment but require knowing it is the correct punishment, hopefully an understanding is met. Thank you. Akaarik (talk) 05:30, January 31, 2016 (UTC)Akaarik


 * That's the problem I want the correct ban, that's all, I said it was an honest mistake.
 * Akaarik (talk) 19:15, January 31, 2016 (UTC)Akaarik
 * Thank you for the information of the time period of the ban.
 * Akaarik (talk) 03:19, February 6, 2016 (UTC)Akaarik

Shockstorm
You should teach Shockstorm some respect since he is not the founder of this wiki.Bopdog111 (talk) 01:22, February 2, 2016 (UTC)Bopdog111

Chat
Re Battles Bronkiin (talk) 00:07, February 6, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Pelinal Whitestrake
That's fine, I haven't had any particular plans for that page. I've taken a long break from writing, but as of now the page I'm working on is C0DA.

Dovahsebrom (talk) 21:49, February 6, 2016 (UTC)

Deletions...again
I could have sworn you'd already done it, but I need you to delete Carolyrrya Hearthston.PNG and her corresponding page Carolyrrya Hearthston due to her being a random spawn with a random name, not a real character. Thanks.The Boy Who Cried Godzilla (talk) 00:00, February 7, 2016 (UTC)

Double Message
Hi Atv, this is sort of a double message. I asked Rim if I could join the Online guild, but he hasn't responded. I was recommended to ask you (I also refreshed my message on his page). Also, Bron want to come up with times of the week the counsel meet to decide on articles. I don't know much about it, and I'm asking you on his behalf. Thanks! Ottoman Hold (talk) 03:17, February 8, 2016 (UTC)
 * Saw you were on, we're talking about noms on chat. Ottoman Hold (talk) 17:58, February 8, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Windhelm
The only thing I've come across that really mentions a decree banning Argonians from the city is Scouts-Many-Marshes dialogue, which says it was Ulfric.

The mentioning of "Hoag" in the Scourge of the Gray Quarter, from what I understand, is just saying that Hoag let a notable amount of Argonians into Windhelm. Why Argonians were trying to get into Skyrim in the early first era and why they were tolerated by a guy remembered particularly for his xenophobia, I don't know. Perhaps the "Hoag" mentioned is not intended to actually be Hoag Merkiller.

We're really given bare bones information regarding the Argonians in Windhelm.

Dovahsebrom (talk) 00:25, February 9, 2016 (UTC)


 * If I may. The Hoag you speak of is indeed not the Merkiller. 1st era Hoag was batshit. Hoag was also the name of Ulfric's father - The great bear (according to the Prima official Skyrim guide). It was his "soft hand" that let them stay in Windhelm. Wulfharth (talk) 00:56, February 9, 2016 (UTC)

Chat
Yo Atvelonis, I'd need you on the chat, if you can join, if you can't we'll talk on our talk pages. Emperor Jarjarkine (chat with meh) 17:18, February 9, 2016 (UTC)
 * Also, I think I'd prefer not being in the council. I dont think I understand the FA/CA/GA enough or the way we do it here, wich isn't really like i used to do it on other wikias, i mean, the articles standarts, and, before i judge thems, i'd better understand how it's actually done, otherwise, my judgment could be wrong, wich i dont want to see happening, dunno if you understand what I mean... Emperor Jarjarkine (chat with meh) 18:02, February 9, 2016 (UTC)

Interesting Destruction Exploit
Hey I see you making changes to the wiki all the time, and I can't seem to find the option to edit the Destruction page, which I have some interesting game-related input on. Thought you might be able to add it. I promise I'm not trolling, you and I both have better things to do than waste our time with being or dealing with one.

At any rate, there is a bug in Skyrim on PS3 where repeatedly jumping in certain forges will level Destruction. I was jumping in Ghorza's forge yesterday to level Restoration by healing the damage from burning, when suddenly my Destruction was increased from 17 to 18. I started jumping a bit more, and sure enough my Destruction level kept going up. It is (from what I could tell) a pretty quick method of leveling, and I raised my Destruction from 17 to 30 in a little under an hour and a half.

I tested this across a couple of forges; It works in Ghorza's forge in Markarth, Moth's forge in Understone Keep, and Beirand's forge in Solitude. It does not work on the Skyforge or Adrianne's forge in Whiterun; the Skyforge doesn't seem to deal burn damage when you jump in it, and Adrianne's forge has a small room over it that prevents the player from jumping onto it (I used one of the presets to create a male Khajiit character; as he's my first character, I don't know if there are potentially other species, genders, or presets that create a shorter character who could potentially jump into the forge).

As a side note (if it's relevant), my Magicka level was 140 and I was using an Apprentice Hood to raise my Magicka up to 180. I was using Close Wounds in both hands without the Restoration perk that allows you to more effectively dual-wield spells. At a Health level of 310, I could cast both spells simultaneously, jump while waiting for my magicka to completely regen (without any perks or equipment boosting magicka regen), and then wait about another five or six jumps, then cast again to get back to full health

Nothing super game-breaking, I just thought that it would be a useful tidbit for other PS3 players! I tried to be as thorough as I could with my description of what was happening, and the conditions I was in, as I could. I hope that the fact that I just spent about 20 minutes typing this up and cross-checking the names to make sure I remembered how to spell them right proves to you that I'm not just trying to waste your time.

This is the first time sending a message like this to anyone & I don't have an account, so I'm sorry if that messes with the tildes (I'm not sure):

155.92.102.113 15:47, February 10, 2016 (UTC)


 * Hey Atv. I went ahead and added it to the page. I've had the bug before myself, so I can relate to it. I just had no clue how to put it into words before. :P

Amulets
Hello,

I'm trying to add some item IDs at http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Console_Commands_(Skyrim)/Amulets navigator 0-Z. Everything looks good, except all links are broken in preview and I don't know what is causing that. Can I edit it so you will see how it looks?

Rupuzioks (talk) 18:01, February 12, 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks for info, also I figured out myself the problem: only in preview showed incorrectly. After saving the page everything was all right.


 * Rupuzioks (talk) 21:06, February 12, 2016 (UTC)

Moved Page
Yeah, saw that AFTER id moved it. I tried to undo the edit. Did it not work? :/ Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 19:47, February 14, 2016 (UTC)

Ulfric's Father
Hey, where did you find the info on Ulfric's father's name? As far as I'd ever known, his name was never revealed to players and he was just referred to as the "Bear of Windhelm" (there was an article here by this name or similar too at one point). It's another reason why Ulfric is referred to as the "Bear of Markarth", because his father is the bear of Windhelm. The name isn't even listed anywhere on UESP- this is why I assumed the Hoag mentioned in Scourge of the Gray Quarter was Hoag Merkiller, as there's never officially been any other Hoag (also, Hoag Merkiller time is close to that of the Sun's Death, the first major eruption that Dunmer fled as refugees from into Skyrim. Also, I saw the comment left on Dovahsebrom's page- read through Hoag Merkiller's article and you'll see his name is not given to him due to having a xenophobic nature, but rather because of his successes in war). I smell something dodgy here considering at the same time these edits were made, you were passing on the false information some other random user added without checking your facts first- Scouts-Many-Marshes never says anything about Ulfric being responsible for the decree against Argonians (none of the Argonians at the dock say this as I checked with them all in case it was just a different character that said this). In fact, no one does because it is highly unlikely considering the circumstances surrounding the Dunmer and Argonians arrival to Skyrim (keeping in mind Ulfric wasn't even Jarl at this point either). -- { 07:43, February 15, 2016 (UTC) }
 * I'm surprised no one's found that before, considering no other site has his name listed. I remember because when I first read Scourge of the Gray Quarter, I thought Hoag might have been Ulfric's father but after finding that his name was never known (referred to only as the bear of Windhelm of Eastmarch) I thought the text referred to the only other Hoag known- Hoag Merkiller. As for Scout's dialogue, I just had a look at his article since the dialogue has been added and realise that it's dependant on Ulfric's death, something I've never played through which explains why I never got that dialogue (the one time checking facts for yourself in-game doesn't work, sorry...). I mentioned it to Dovahsebrom but I'm not sure if they'll look into it- there is a text somewhere in-game (or maybe an NPC who comments it) that spoke about the decree banning Argonians from inside Windhelm was due to them initially arriving as the Dunmer's slaves during the refugee arrival period- this is why Brunwulf comments that it's safer for the Argonians to stay outside the city, because neither Dunmer nor Nords will be happy to see them in the city. Sorry I can't be more of help, hopefully someone will re-find it!
 * -- { 12:30, February 16, 2016 (UTC) }

C0DA
My work on the C0DA article is complete, can you unlock the page so that I can post the info?

Dovahsebrom (talk) 15:17, February 17, 2016 (UTC)

Sergius's Note
Ok I checked, there is nothing else on the note or another page, I guess they never completed the code. 18:24, February 19, 2016 (UTC)

Regarding the roads
There's a Mage Scholar at the Arcane University, she teaches the Mage Apprentices, I decided to stay and listen for once. The content that I posted on the roads page, was directly quoted from this scholar. I hope this is enough info, if you want the full quote (the subject she was talking about was Runestones) I can give it. If the page can be restored, I'd be grateful.

Blademaster Jauffre (talk) 15:08, February 20, 2016 (UTC)Blademaster Jauffre, aka, Jauffre

Now that you mention quotes...
Hey, I'm not too good with the more "complicated" dialogue boxes, either. Simple ones, like general "discussion" and the ones mostly used for "marriage proposals" I can do, but the one like on Neloth's page is outa my league. Hey, by the way, there's on Neloth's page a bunch of quotes like the guttural "Agh" and "hey" or mentioning "Fetcher" in attack modes that are used by lots of other Dunmer or the "power attack sounds" used by everyone in melee combat that I tried to remove, but fiddling with the code messed it up, so in the end I didn't remove them. Could you? Or if you couldn't do it, mention it to someone with the "complex quote box" know-how to remove these quotes? Thanks. =) Leea (talk) 12:43, February 21, 2016 (UTC)

Chat problem
Not to bother you. But ArkaineDestiny was giving me trouble in the chat. I know I sound stupid but I'm sick of people messing with me. Tuzin (talk) 02:16, February 23, 2016 (UTC)

Just some really simple stuff
Heyo Atv,

I saw your edit on the Emoticons page from a bit back, and I thought I'd point out that you have to upload images to Wikia in order for them to work as emotes -- External links dont work. Fell free to upload the images at my sandbox and link them from there if you want to fix them. I would do itmyself, but I cant edit the Mediawiki page. Thanks. And, glad you finally decided to get the Buro. in!

Automatic Province Categories
Hey Atvelonis

I got yet another message for you. I did some thinking, and Im quite sure I can rig up the ESO Location Infoboxes so that they automatically add region categories. This would allow us to make city pages etc without having to add the region, as well as province, if you'd like.

For example, if I said this talkpage was in Skyrim or of some sort then it would generate "Categories: Online: Locations in Skyrim" for the categories without us having to add it. This change should be quite simple, and we would never have to add categories for this stuff again -- At least, until we have to patch up for the next TES game.

The only issue I could see it have is that we would have to add every city thats ever added to ESO into one giant list. This would also happen if you changed the name of a city/province. I would love to hear what you would have to say,


 * Hey,


 * Not sure if you notice me say this in chat or not, but try to hold off on the change for a bit. I made a mistake (As always) I only just now noticed. Im in the middle of fixing it, but I'll be a while yet. I just need to link all the pages in the template (I didnt notice the system read the mediawiki source and not the result). My bad, should be fixed soon.

Congrats!
Hey there! I am happy to see after a productive Moot, you have been promoted to bigger and better things! I knew you would one day land in the chair and I am glad to see you have done it. On a slightly less happy note, I have been informed that these staff reeavalutations come amidst a bit of trouble with some users? I was told in chat by Bron, Qahn, Crusader, Kora, etc. that CCC uploaded a new swearword list without telling anyone and banned two users? I just wanted to get the story straight  before I decide on the upcoming evaluations.

Of course, given all that CCC has done to make this place a better site will not go without consideration and it is almost guaranteed I will stand by him should he be on the chopping block (as some users suggested) but this matter did stick out to me and I would like to know more, if possible.

Once again, congratulations.

Madman97 (talk) 04:46, February 28, 2016 (UTC)


 * G0LD did the bannings, which were undone later. The initial list was put up by JarJar then edited down by CCC. This was also later undone. All staff face re-evaluation. Avoid misquoting users on public walls.
 * Bronkiin (talk) 04:54, February 28, 2016 (UTC)


 * I thought we explained exactly all that happened so that there'd be no confusion, please don't misquote us like that because that's not what happened, we were just saying what occurred in the days before to keep you updated. -Kora Stormblade (talk) 05:09, February 28, 2016 (UTC)


 * I never talked about that in Moot, nor did I in chat. So pleae leave me out of this. User:Qahnaarin1997 (User talk:Qahnaarin1997)


 * Woah, not trying to start something, I was just generalizing when I mentioned all of you because most of you (Besides Qahn because I wasn't really paying attention to when he entered chat) were telling me this stuff. Not trying to drag your names through the mud. It's no big deal. Just wanted a second telling from another source, is all. Madman97 (talk) 07:11, February 28, 2016 (UTC)


 * Hey, I saw the whole "Congrats" thing and I figured I might as well throw my kudos in for becoming a crat and hitting 50K. Not like I didnt already tell you in chat, but I still wanted to say an official kudos to ya.

ProfileTags script
Hello! I see that you are using a old(er) version of a script I wrote a few years ago. This script has been massively updated!

The new script allows all changes to tags to bypass the JavaScript Review process!

If interested, please visit the Dev Wiki for information on how to install the new script.Rappy 17:05, February 29, 2016 (UTC)

Re-Evals
Hey Atv,

I did some poking around on the userlist to see everyone that had rights, and I figured I should point out that we may also want to go ahead and throw the bots onto the list? While bots are kinda not even close to dealing with Evals, they do still have rights that we may want to remove. The full list I got of bots should be KINMUNE, DwemerBot, Gurbot, and Veetor-Bot III -- That should be tried, anyway. Gurbot is used by Wikia (Or something like that) but I still figured I should throw him on the list. This may have been already mentioned to you via another user, but I figured (As I didnt a lot in this message...) that I should ask via talkpage.

Thanks.

Resignation
Sorry but it's been making me ill for quite awhile, i tried to hang on for as long as i can but for the last few days it's been hard even to answer a simple question just about bugs. I'm afraid i just can't go on. AzuraKnight (talk) 11:34, March 1, 2016 (UTC)

Congrats!
Hey Atv,

I've been meaning to congratulate you on becoming crat for the past few days, but I haven't been able to catch you in chat. But I couldn't wait any longer, because you really deserve crat. I think you'll use it better than any other TES crat ever, personally :D.

Also Saj says hi and also wants to give you his congrats.

On a business note, do you think it'd be a good idea to have a slavers category for Morrowind characters? It's more specific than the bandits category, and since there's already one for slaves, it wouldn't be such a bad idea, I thought. Just wanted to check with you first is all.

Anyway, again, congrats on crat. Cya round,

15:28, March 4, 2016 (UTC)


 * Uh, ok then. I guess I'll wait for you guys to clear that up, then. Get back to me when you can. Thanks!


 * 16:50, March 4, 2016 (UTC)

Discussions
Hey Atv,

Could you take a quick peak at this discussions...thread(?)? We got a rather...troublesome user, StormNinja27. Thanks.
 * I second that. I've been deleting her posts, but she keeps on going. Looks like a ban is required.

Contacting Wikia
Here's my email. Is there anything you want to add/suggest? Thanks. Hi, I'm Ottoman Hold, a Discussions Moderator on The Elder Scrolls Wiki. I have a few suggestions and opinions on discussions.

-The rules for forums vs. discussions should definitely be different, the discussions being a little more lenient. Rules should still be in place however, such as trolling, spam, caps, insults, etc.

-Allowing moderators/administrators to edit posts. Always useful, as mods can help fix format issues

-Notifications, similar to forums. It would be a big help to add notifications to discussions so I can see what were added to, as it is tedious to look everywhere at current, and would be a big help to add

-Probably the biggest thing. Please, keep forums and discussions separate. Everyone likes the forums, and are easy to use. At the same time, discussions are good in order to use on mobile devices. There are positives for both, and I think we should keep both as well as separate. We have lots of traffic through both I hope you consider these recommendations. I mean to help the wiki, and of course make my job easier. Thanks!

-Ottoman Hold, Moderator on The Elder Scrolls Wiki"

Chat
I'd like to speak with you on chat very quick. I won't take much time. ShawnHowellsCP (talk) 20:39, March 8, 2016 (UTC)

New Disambigs?
Hey Atv,

Do you think it would be plausible to create disambiguations for common last names? I'll list an example here:

Dreth is a Dunmer surname. It may refer to the following:
 * Madsu Dreth, bandit in Ainat.
 * Relmeria Dreth, resides at Shad Astula.
 * Romlyn Dreth, bootlegger in Riften.
 * Surii, mine overseer in Mud Tree Village.
 * Valen Dreth, prisoner in the cell next to the Hero in Kvatch.
 * Veneval Dreth, resides in Mournhold.

Again, let me know what you think. It would definitely be good for people who've forgotten the first name of the character they want. Also, if we have first names, we should have last ones too, I think.

Also, I have something else to discuss with you in private. I'll tell you in PM at the next moot, which I plan to attend to see what it is.

Cheers,

17:20, March 9, 2016 (UTC)


 * Alright, sounds good to me. Also, I do know what the moot is, I had a brain fart lol. It's the end of a long school day for me.
 * - 19:31, March 9, 2016 (UTC)

Another Discussion Issue
Got evidence on an alt, come on chat and we can discuss.

Item Quality
I've stumbled upon a fact that we don't have a Legendary quality template. We have:

I've started working on some item tables in my sandbox and we need orange one for Legendary quality. And I'm guessing Normal can be just done with Bold.

Ikabite (talk) 18:43, March 10, 2016 (UTC)

Appearances Template
Atv,

I've created a template for appearances (Link). I saw that it was the only thing on every page that wasn't made into a template, so Crusader and I worked on it. It's been proven to work. Here, I'll show you:

And how you format it:

I added all games and add-ons as values in the switch template, and up to 7 games can be put into the template mentioned-only.

I say we should start fixing them right away, I don't think there will be any complaints, and this is something that we can do without bots if we try hard.

So, what do you think :D?

- 17:53, March 11, 2016 (UTC)

Psst!
Pop in chat for a second, there is something neat I think you'll like to see

Template renames
Hey, please leave a list of the templates you need renamed on my talk page in the following format and I'll start them as soon as the previous take is done.

->

Thanks. -- Cörey (talk) 07:34, March 12, 2016 (UTC)

Emoticons
Hi! :3 The emoticons for dagoth and Ordinator stopped working, could you replace the image links? Thanks :3 &#8752; High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia &#937; Mighty Ruler of the Gods &#8859; ( talk ) &#5099; 17:20, March 12, 2016 (UTC)

Damage (online)
My page for Damage (Online) is a deletion canidate, its for a red link though and the reason its in risk is because its not nessecary but like i said its for a redlink DarkVaultBoi111 (talk) 22:00, March 13, 2016 (UTC)

Mediawiki:NewArticleText
Hello!

I'm quite sure you know about the presets stuff so I'll cut to the chase -- I figured I should save you some time for a change, and I went ahead and set up the presets for the Thieves Guild stuff. You can see the preset pages I made here, here, here, here, here, here, here, and here. You might want to shift some stuff around, I did a copy/paste of the Online setup, minus leaving the stuff the same. I don't know if you wanted anything to be formatted differently or not? Anyway, below should be a copy/paste for the new stuff, so you can just dump it into here whenever you're ready.


 * Thieves Guild:
 * style="background-color:#1D2438; border:1px solid #111; text-align:center; padding:1px 5px"| [ Character]
 * style="background-color:#1D2438; border:1px solid #111; text-align:center; padding:1px 5px"| [ Location]
 * style="background-color:#1D2438; border:1px solid #111; text-align:center; padding:1px 5px"| [ Creature]
 * style="background-color:#1D2438; border:1px solid #111; text-align:center; padding:1px 5px"| [ Item]
 * style="background-color:#1D2438; border:1px solid #111; text-align:center; padding:1px 5px"| [ Armor]
 * style="background-color:#1D2438; border:1px solid #111; text-align:center; padding:1px 5px"| [ Book]
 * style="background-color:#1D2438; border:1px solid #111; text-align:center; padding:1px 5px"| [ Faction]
 * style="background-color:#1D2438; border:1px solid #111; text-align:center; padding:1px 5px"| [ Quest]
 * style="background-color:#1D2438; border:1px solid #111; text-align:center; padding:1px 5px"| [ Quest]

Hope this helps out a bit.

Skyrim: Quest Givers
Hey Atv,

So, as you probably noticed, I've been adding categories to the Skyrim character pages. Well, I realized that a few years ago, Jimeee deleted the category for Skyrim quest givers. Do I have your permission to recreate it? I'd be willing to do a lot of the work, since spring break starts Friday night for me (Hooray :D!). It's a bit of a project, but I think we can handle it. If not at least for standardization's sake, we already have categories for several other games, and Skyrim is by far the most popular. It would make sense for navigational purposes.

What do you say?

- 13:06, March 18, 2016 (UTC)


 * Great, and, no worries, I will complete it :P.


 * Also, thanks for all the helpful info on the locations. When I saw the High Rock locations cat, I thought it was weird, but because it was on every page, I assumed it was standard. Thanks for clearing that up. I won't do any of that again, no worries.


 * - 02:30, March 19, 2016 (UTC)


 * PS Happy St. Patrick's Day!

No cats for Skyrim articles
Atv, I completed the quest givers, but I have one more question - what do we do about Dragonborn characters? Do we have a different category for them? I want to know before I do anything rash.

The main topic of this, however, is that the character articles for Skyrim are missing tons of standard cats. I never noticed before, but it's astonishingly appalling. They're in far worse condition than I've ever thought.

There aren't regional categories for characters, which there should be for those outside of settlements. And speaking of settlements, none of the towns or strongholds have character cats either! It's a big mess, and I wanted to let you know that I'm going to clean it up.

Hopefully we'll have a cat system for Skyrim that's as strong as our one for Online by the time I'm done.

Anyhow, happy editing!

- 15:16, March 19, 2016 (UTC)


 * Well, finally I can attend this moot. Nothing's come up, so that's good. Until then, I'll add more cats. Cya then!


 * - 19:16, March 19, 2016 (UTC)

Re
No, it isn't even that. I knew better.

It's because sometimes I'm an idiot, like the category. I'm very sorry for this, and it honestly caused a bigger hoo-ha than it should have been, meaning that it shouldn't have caused you to come out of your sick leave. Then Shock said, "The wiki is no place for your little jokes rah rah rah," and then Bron said that he had messaged you or something. I wanted to apologize personally, but they basically refused to let me for a reason, from what I understood. Yeah, it was a joke, and then I went to far and actually created the category. No excuse needed.

Anyhow, Atv, this kind of stupidity from me won't happen again. I wasn't watching myself, but this time I'm aware of what my lizard brain can do. Hopefully it'll help.

Get well, I guess. I hope you feel better soon :).

- 01:41, March 21, 2016 (UTC)


 * Shock says that they never said that they wouldn't let me apologize. I must have misunderstood. It made no sense in the first place, but I don't know. Sorry about that.
 * - 21:19, March 21, 2016 (UTC)

A offer to the Wikia Pages
Hi Atvelonis,

I'd like to offer the Wiki Users and other skyrim fans a downloadable version of the guides viewable in the Wiki pages. It will be in .docx form but i could later convert it to .pdf. I have only completed a piece of the guide sourced from the wiki pages it only entails the Main Quest line. Here is a link to the Sample of the 1st version : User blog:TheElderScribe/The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim Legendary Edition Wiki Source Guide (Sample)

I would like to hear your opionion on the idea..

Best Regards,

TheElderScribe aka Jesse Kotze TheElderScribe (talk) 11:33, March 25, 2016 (UTC)

Books
Hey Atv,

When you can, I'd like to run a few ideas for categorising ESO books over with you.

Regards,

Bronkiin (talk) 18:59, March 26, 2016 (UTC)

Clan Snow Shod
Atvelonis,

Today I saw the following page being created: Clan Snow-Shod

There's already a page about this family, it's better written, older and has a lot more information about the family: Snow-Shod

I request the latest page Clan Snow-Shod to be deleted, seeing as double articles about the same thing, seem like a waste of space.

Blademaster Jauffre (talk) 00:03, March 27, 2016 (UTC)Blademaster Jauffre, aka, Jauffre


 * I have redirected the page Clan Snow Shod to Snow Shod Mechazod (talk) 00:07, March 27, 2016 (UTC)

Chat
Something happened on chat that I need to talk to you about. Please meet me As soon as you are able to on chat. Thanks. Qahnaarin1997 (talk) 05:33, March 27, 2016 (UTC)

More Quest Givers
Hey Atv,

I'm now going to do a quest givers category for Oblivion. And don't worry, like the Skyrim ones I'll finish them. Have no worries there.

Just wanted to tell you the next big project I'm doing. The Daggerfall locations were getting to be extremely boring, but Cru has my back on some of it. Hopefully both projects will be finished over the course of the next couple weeks. Until then, happy Easter!

- 05:49, March 27, 2016 (UTC)

PS I made no mention of the other...thing for a reason. Let us keep it at that, until you've talked to Qahn.

Armenian TES-Wiki
Hi, Atvelonis! :3

Can you please add to mainpage for interwiki to Armenian wiki? KeepingCalm 17:11, March 27, 2016 (UTC)

More categories
Hey Atv,

I was wondering if it would be possible to add occupations to Skyrim character articles, and other character articles too, I guess. We have ones for Online, so I think we should have them for the other games. It's never made sense to me why we don't have them.

I'm also wondering if we should do class cats. In Morrowind, it's a pretty big thing on the pages, so it would only be logical to have those too. It'd be a real project, but I think I've proven myself with the rest of my work, in that I will finish it. No worries there. It'd be about 2000 edits, but I could handle it. Although, maybe it's a moot matter.

Anyway, what do you think of this?

- 14:25, March 28, 2016 (UTC)


 * You have a good point, actually, Atv. I hadn't thought of the occupations like that before. Also, I wasn't aware of the verdict on classes, but if that's the case then I have to mark few categories that I found sitting around for delete (i.e. Morrowind: Scouts). I didn't do anything with them, of course, but I did find it odd that they already existed. I stumbled onto them when I was doing Morrowind quest givers, so I'll deal with that now. Anyway, happy Monday! Lol. - 16:09, March 28, 2016 (UTC)~

Complaint
Hello, i would like to complaint against Bronkiin (which im sure im not the first one) he comes into the chat today and me and others were talking and having a respectfull argument and he comes in and just kicks me out because "i'm not in a good mood today so be carefull"... that's his only reason for kicking me.. and there were couple of other users there like judgedred or something and daed..saurun and many others who also didn't like the way he kicks people out for no reason. so i would like to complaint and am asking to kick him and bring me back (and you can look and check the chat today (28\3\16) thats when it happened i cant say the time because maybe u live in dirferent time zone than me, thanks in advance. and have good one. SKiwa1ker1 (talk) 17:37, March 28, 2016 (UTC)


 * and i also wanted to add to my complaint that you can ask any of the users that were there they all said he kicks for no reason at all and they all argued against him when he came in... thank you. SKiwa1ker1 (talk) 17:40, March 28, 2016 (UTC)

Re
Aye, Atv, I've noticed that it's a problem.

I already talked about it with Star in PM awhile ago, I'm being extra careful now.

But thanks for the heads up. If I hadn't already talked about it, it would've been really helpful :).

- 19:46, March 28, 2016 (UTC)