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 * --Cheatcodechamp (talk) 17:13, March 16, 2015 (UTC)

Infoboxes
Hi Ottoman. When you make a page, remember to use the correct template for the infobox. The page you created, Fryke, needed to use the BloodmoonLocations template (the code for it is in the boxed area below, you don't have to copy the actual HTML). If you have any questions I'd be happy to answer them. Thanks. Have fun editing! —Atvelonis (talk) 04:23, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks, At. I forgot to add the templates for the last few pages I made. Whoops. Ottoman Hold (talk) 12:30, October 27, 2015 (UTC)

Auroran Crisis Nomination
You forgot to add  in the auroran crisis page. WrathOfHircine (talk) 13:43, November 8, 2015 (UTC)
 * Whoops, thanks for that, I added it now Ottoman Hold (talk) 18:18, November 8, 2015 (UTC)

Holiday raffle
Hey Otto. You are probably with family or friends right now but in case you didn't see, you and Madman97 won the Holiday Raffle, so when you get the chance just hop on chat and we can work out which t-shirt you'd like to have. Thanks! —Atvelonis (talk) 16:09, December 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * Might as well put it here, but I have to pull out, since I can't give away my information because my parents have been strict on me since an incident months ago. Sorry about the inconvenience, I forgot about it until now. Thanks for it anyway! Ottoman Hold (talk) 04:45, January 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * That's ok. If you want a game on steam around that price (such as ESO right now) I can gift it to you instead which would not require that kind of information, just your Steam account. —Atvelonis (talk) 20:10, January 1, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Personal Thank You
It's no problem at all. I'm glad I could help out. —Atvelonis (talk) 20:29, January 3, 2016 (UTC)

Lamae
Oy, when you'll get the chance, try to look at the nomination, since the page actually changed today ^^ Emperor Jarjarkine (Talk) 00:07, January 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, I'll check it out. Ottoman Hold (talk) 00:11, January 11, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Soft Disambigs
It's a good start, but you could definitely elaborate a little bit. It would be good to explain some of the stuff in the Wabbajack book for sure. —Atvelonis (talk) 19:30, January 24, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Double Message
Rim hasn't responded to any of my messages either, here or on Steam. Might just be a little too busy to think about that kind of thing or something. I'm perfectly fine with you joining the guild and I think Rim would probably agree with me on that. In regards to the status article thing, most of us are on chat every day so we can just decide it whenever. Still it might help to have an organized time, around what would be moot time were it every day perhaps, that's 4 pm for you and I. Maybe if at least 3/5 or 4/5 of us are there we can decide it. —Atvelonis (talk) 04:46, February 8, 2016 (UTC)

Discussions
Hey Ottoman,

Since you're discussions moderator now I can officially bother you with something. So, a quick kudos first. Now, as to the reason why I popped by, just thought I'd say you may want to watch this discussions thread. That was a little...interesting, so ya. Thanks.

Insulted?
Less aggresive and I insulted people? Really? The words that I used are nothing compared to what is used in the common life where I live. In fact, it's even way more civil than I am on google+, unless if the word bloody is an insult nowaday. Did Bronkiin also get a warning? After all, his words were far more insulting than mine were.

Blademaster Jauffre (talk) 19:33, March 10, 2016 (UTC)Bladmaster Jauffre, aka, Jauffre


 * Because calling someones points primitive or calling someones points a comedy sketch is totally not an insult? Those two things were said by none other than Bronkiin. Also, if people are offended, why do they not take the time to message me? How on earth am I supposed to know what they consider offensive if they don't even inform me? Where I live, the things I said are used in the common tongue, and they are not even considered offensive. In fact, more people laugh about it than get all upset. And when they do get upset, they say so themselves.
 * Blademaster Jauffre (talk) 22:11, March 11, 2016 (UTC) Blademaster Jauffre
 * This is already considered offensive? By all means, how on earth is it? Other than that, you say people are offended, yet don't report the offenses. It's like arresting a criminal and not telling him what he did wrong, how on earth is he supposed to learn from that?
 * Blademaster Jauffre (talk) 10:47, March 12, 2016 (UTC)Blademaster Jauffre


 * I'll drop it, by all means, I won't even talk about this, it's useless, if people refuse to look at what happened prior to that than I won't even bother. If calling someone ignorant is offensive, than so is calling someones points primitive. Either way, I'm done with this.
 * Blademaster Jauffre (talk) 13:41, March 13, 2016 (UTC) Blademaster Jauffre

CONGRATS!!
Yay! You've been promoted, Otto! I hadn't noticed that you'd been promoted, but now that I know, I definitely must congratulate you in any way possible.

I think you'll make a really good good moderator. You're a good guy, and I hope that you'll stick around for a while and keep our forums free of scum, spam and, of course, walruses. You've also been doing a good job with TESWW, which is good practice for the real deal. Now, I think you have the real deal.

* Cue ridiculous, melodramatic crying for absolutely no reason - but the presence of walruses ;(*

- 20:46, March 10, 2016 (UTC)


 * I have nothing against walruses, I just felt like randomly pointing out the intense diversity, significance, experience, nearsightedness, anonymity and simantickle experteeze of walruses as much as possible :D. *He thinks, wow, Ned is such a son-of-a-parent.*
 * - 20:55, March 10, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Explanation
Thanks for leaving the message, I appreciate it. If it's a misunderstanding, then I must also hold some of the blame so don't worry about bans or whatever. Keep up the good work,

Bronkiin (talk) 00:38, March 21, 2016 (UTC)

My Thread
Any chance you could remove some of the remarks from the thread I started under Paarthurnax that were mean-spirited, including that last one before you locked it? Seriously, all I wanted to do was to give a little help. And I had every right to be offended by what was said. Do I blame you for locking it? Actually, I'm grateful as it needed to be done. Let me know if anything can be done-maybe wipe out the off-topic stuff-what I posted was useful until the thread got dumped on

CelticDragon0 (talk) 02:49, March 21, 2016 (UTC)

Move a thread.
Hey, ottoman can you move Thread:906337 to Board:Skyrim. Thanks in advance. Starkiller131 (talk) 17:49, March 22, 2016 (UTC)

Spammer on the disscussions
There is a spammer on the disscussions acoount is "? MYSTERY? HACKER?" DarkVaultBoi111 (talk) 22:20, April 12, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Afraid of the dark
Hi Otto,

It was an unclear reference to the Vashda Nerada; you know when you post something you think is obvious, but it's only because you were thinking about it? Sorry for any typos - on my tablet. Pelagius the Geek (talk) 12:21, April 15, 2016 (UTC)

Re: The Imperial Battlemage
I'll speak to him about his behavior, thanks for letting me know. —Atvelonis (talk) 01:49, May 4, 2016 (UTC)

Are you serious?
Ot,

I already admitted that it doesn't fucking matter if he's the same guy or not. What matters is that he's a member of wikia staff and as such is meant to uphold the rules. Fun fact about my ban by the way, not stating exactly what I did wrong is only further proving the corruption present on this wikia, but that aside. Either you follow the rules and behave like a mod, or you're just an editor. Just because you're staff doesn't mean you can joke around with wikia rules. If a cop does that he gets suspended, but when Bronkiin does it, suddenly it's just a joke. Are you fucking kidding me? Just so you know, I'm highly involved with laws and rules, and therefor, I also know that my ban wasn't justified because there was no evidence put to me, as in a normal court would have been the case. Learn about laws and enforcing them, then come back to me.

Blademaster Jauffre (talk) 20:06, May 11, 2016 (UTC)

It's okay?
Ot, Saying you're hostile is not evidence, that's the bloody accusation itself. Your evidence has to show what it was that you guys consider hostile, you want me to change but don't tell me what I do wrong, that isn't going to work now is it? As for Bronkiin and Shock, it doesn't matter if they aren't the same thing, and the fact that you say it's okay because it's common to joke about it makes it even worse.

By the way, let it be known that I've decided to drop this topic, and I'll only leave a reply to those who still decide to comment regarding the impersonation, I know nothing's going to change, so I won't waste my time trying to serve justice. Blademaster Jauffre (talk) 20:47, May 11, 2016 (UTC)

Revision Page
Ottoman Hold, I was wondering where the page for articles needing revising, editing or deleting is as I'm fairly new and eager to help out. Thanks.

EthanFriend03 (talk) 23:57, May 25, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Images
Thanks for the info. As i was uploading them, i thought it was weird i never saw a hud in pic here before. But there we go. Anyways, will make sure it's off in the future. Have a great day AgentOfMara (talk) 09:17, June 4, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Dagger Speed
So I think that statement just refers to regular daggers, not unique ones. The Dragonbone Dagger has a speed of 1.3 while the Blade of Woe has a speed of 1.0, according to the Creation Kit; the article is just poorly worded. —Atvelonis (talk) 15:26, June 29, 2016 (UTC)

Discussion Weekly Updates
Hey Otto,

I saw you had a sandbox for all the Discussions weekly updates, so I took the liberty or adding the last 2. Hope you don't mind,

- CarloV3r (talk) 11:09, August 13, 2016 (UTC)

Inappropriate forum thread?
Hi Ottoman,

Just found the linked thread which looks like it's inappropriate http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:935195

Was wondering what you're thoughts on the thread are?

Cheers,

TessaVarzi (talk) 03:28, August 27, 2016 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Skyrim Civil War page (edit-war[?])
Your opinion is desired in Talk:Skyrim Civil War.(Sports72Xtrm (talk) 17:38, November 2, 2016 (UTC))

Ulfric Stormcloak revert
Why did you revert my edit when it is true. Ulfric considers the Empire weak? Bias has nothing to do with it, it's the truth supported by his quotes, and it is biased because it's an opinion- Ulfrics(Sports72Xtrm (talk) 01:39, November 19, 2016 (UTC))
 * I do not contest that unworthy edits exist, but you don't get to decide what is a "worthy" edit Forum moderator. So long as the adjective is appropriate, relevant to section of the article, it should remain without someone trying to remove content or change words so as to change the intent and meaning of the author. Since Ulfric considers the Empire too weak to protect its citizens along with exploiting them for their own personal gain, then an "inept" or at least an "incompetent" adjective should be a worthy addition, instead of you cutting it out because you subjectively find the tone of the adjective distasteful. And if people can remove content every time they are triggered by how a phrase is worded, it makes me question the impartiality of this wiki and the abuse of power by its mods.(Sports72Xtrm (talk))
 * If you know so much about editing, if you are such a professional, why are you making such a big deal about a trivial addition? I've combed through your policies, and I find I have done nothing wrong. All I've done is add a clarifying adjective using objective sources to justify it. I'm not Erik the Mad, and if you are accusing me of being a member of some sort of monolithic label so as to justify rewording or cutting out my content when it's not warranted, well I won't stand for it.(Sports72Xtrm (talk))
 * " Let's present all significant, competing views sympathetically." By denying me an edit that just provides a clarification of an opinion of a lore character, you are trying to suppress a competing view.(Sports72Xtrm (talk))
 * I added two words appropriate to its article and section that is sourced and relevant, but you're throwing a hissy fit by accusing me of cluttering the article with redundancy? It was two words... I want you to see how petty your issue with my edit is. Secondly, I've yet to see which policy I've violated from your policy guidelines that warrants such a controversial reaction from you. If the Ulfric Stormcloak article is held in high regard, it is because many contributors added their input to make it so and continue to do so, not because Ottoman Hold took it upon himself to preserve it in a stagnant state. Yes you are not Jauffre, but Jauffre is not the sole template for a problematic user. Why is a forum moderator going beyond his jurisdiction to threaten to penalize me on article edits when no violation has occurred? Furthermore, you seem intent to threaten to bully me and stifle my contributions using the precedence of a different individual as a pretext. I don't know what this individual has done, but unless I have violated the explicit guidelines stated in this wiki, you have no justification to penalize me. Even if I did violate a policy, I want to talk to someone with relevant jurisdiction in the administration, not a forum monitor overstepping his authority.(Sports72Xtrm (talk))

Huge thread
Hey Ottoman,

I recommend closing the thread Your dragonborn backstory and starting a continuation thread. It has been going since October 2013 and is up to 462 posts, and takes a bit of time to load (At least on my computer). Just thought I would bring that to your attention. Cheers The Cat Master (talk) 18:43, December 16, 2016 (UTC)


 * There is also this other thread about the same subject. It is up to 232 posts and has been going on since May 2013. The Cat Master (talk) 18:53, December 16, 2016 (UTC)

Thread Nonsense
Hey Otto, just wanted to pop by to ask you to check this (and to remove the post if that's within the rules ig) when you get a moment. Anons are being grumpy again. Thanks m8

Thread's Name Needs Correction
G'day

Noticed that you created a new thread for Your Dragonborn's Backstory (Part II), except that you called it "Your dragon backstory Part 2. I figure your Autocorrect Ninja must have jumped in and "helped you" when you weren't looking. At least, I assume you meant to say Dragonborn, not Dragon.  😉

Also, someone else has made a duplicate thread: Share your characters back stories! Does this mean that people looking at the original thread for Backstories should be directed to this second thread, or your "Part II" thread? 😳

🙃👍 Razorgirl 01:02, January 7, 2017 (UTC)

Name Issue
You said someone had the same name as us, so we were wondering if it is possible to change it, qnd still save all of the credit we got from edits and posts. ~Jacob and Keyeugh

Rim of the Sky (talk) 20:48, January 27, 2017 (UTC)

Re:Multiple Edits
ok. will try to do it all in one go.(Sports72Xtrm (talk) 21:06, February 16, 2017 (UTC))

Why would it, when I click "Leave Message", add my note to a person to someone else's previously existing separate messages? That is literally moronic. How insanely obnoxious...

That out of the way, my note to Sports72Xtrm was meant to be a simple affirmation without attachment to anything you added. I have no issue with you. Having read far too many propaganda pieces with faulty and/or dishonest content from Blademaster Jauffre, I definitely DO have issue with that one. I felt necessary to explain to Sports that he isn't alone in disputing Jauffre's innacuracies or lies. Just before I made that comment, I read a post where the book Bear of Markarth is correct and then another stating it is incorrect. Both from Jauffre. The putting forth of faulty or intentionally false information as truth is too similar to present day real-life situations and pisses me off. Thus I had to reign in and comment.

That said, I wanted to make clear that my comment didn't have anything specific to do with you, and shouldn't have even been attached to yours, being that this message system appears to have hidden rules. Annoying... But apologies for confusion, keep up the good work.

BeastOfWar (talk) 22:58, February 23, 2017 (UTC)BeastOfWar

Might wanna peak in on this
Hey again Ottoman, I hope you're doing good bro. Just wanted to mention you might want to see about these guys. Its nothing major, but it'd be a great idea to have someone handle it before they go crazy. Thanks dude, hope it doesn't turn out too crazy.

Re:Anon Madness
Done!—CarloV3r (talk) 21:55, March 2, 2017 (UTC)

Re:Discussions Weekly Updates
No problem man, happy to help out. :)—CarloV3r (talk) 19:22, March 16, 2017 (UTC)

Re:Discussions Update
Sure thing, it'll have to be tomorrow though, since it's late here now. I'll do it tomorrow morning. And thanks, appreciate it. Good luck with all your work. ;)—CarloV3r (talk) 20:21, March 28, 2017 (UTC)

History
Could you remove my sandbox history from this page? I would prefer that it not be on that wiki. Thanks. —Atvelonis (talk) 19:40, June 28, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Categories and Stuff
The broader categories are usually used for "general" articles (IE: pages about the gameplay aspect in all games), or as a "hub" filled with game-specific subcategories. Preferably, a Battlespire gameplay aspect, for example, should be categorized under Category:Battlespire: Gameplay, which should be categorized under Category: Gameplay.

An Oblivion attribute, like Willpower, should be categorized under Category:Oblivion: Attributes, which should be categorized under the broader category; Category:Attributes.—CarloV3r (talk) 09:37, July 8, 2017 (UTC)

Slack
Heya Otto,

If you've got the time, would you mind checking Slack? (If you're still using it) Thanks!—CarloV3r (talk) 13:26, August 23, 2017 (UTC)

Thread
Hey Otto. Hope you're active enough to see this soon.

Just wanted to pop by to mention that you might want to delete the last two comments on this thread. Second to last one is spam, and last one is just an image. Thanks. The Crusader of Truth (talk – chat) 17:09, August 27, 2017 (UTC)


 * And probably Thread:281307 this too. Thanks again. The Crusader of Truth (talk – chat) 04:51, September 5, 2017 (UTC)


 * And I'm back again. I think I'll just keep indenting this message. You may want to pop in and comment at these two users Thread:311047. Semi-rude remarks and stuff. Enough to need moderation but not enough to post on VIP. Thanks Otto The Crusader of Truth (talk – chat) 23:33, September 16, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Moderator (Staff) Page
I've unlocked it; feel free to make those changes. I suppose it would also be good to mention the extra job requirements on Discussions, such as going through the reported posts queue and answering posts in the "Moderator questions" category. —Atvelonis (talk) 00:17, September 22, 2017 (UTC)


 * I've unlocked the chat moderator project page now as well. Though one could argue that an application is really a self-nomination, so I don't think it makes any difference. —Atvelonis (talk) 02:04, September 22, 2017 (UTC)