User:KINMUNE/chatlog/20171101

You're wrong, here's why, and also that was autistic = insult, not Ad Hominem
 * 00:01:32: Nekyn Alb: You can't "unlock" CHIM, it's a status akin to enlightenment
 * 00:02:02: Nekyn Alb: Talos is the most powerful being in the Aurbis but Vivec and him are both not erasable
 * 00:02:03: Jr seriel: What is this in regards to? The skeleton key question ?
 * 00:02:08: Nekyn Alb: Yes
 * 00:03:02: Jr seriel: So talos would win? Interesting
 * 00:03:20: Nekyn Alb: Can't win against unkillable gods
 * 00:03:35: Jr seriel: Could he banish vivec?
 * 00:04:01: Jr seriel: Or lock him somewhere?
 * 00:04:05: Nekyn Alb: It'd be like a fight against the Dark Souls III protagonist, he just returns or kills himself if he's trapped or just teleports
 * 00:04:24: Jr seriel: Never played dark souls. But interesting
 * 00:05:16: Jr seriel: But back to the skeleton key question. Could you use it to unlock the knowledge to use the Razer to reshape yourself?
 * 00:06:07: Nekyn Alb: I believe you can only unlock that what's there. That's why Mercer was just able to unlock his potential and didn't make himself more
 * 00:06:30: Jr seriel: Well he didn't have mehrunes Razer ? But if he did who knows what he could have done
 * 00:06:51: Nekyn Alb: Probably nothing but kill more people
 * 00:07:08: Jr seriel: Could have turned into a dragonborn
 * 00:07:12: Jr seriel: Could have been cool
 * 00:07:23: Nekyn Alb: He didn't have the required knowledge for any of that
 * 00:07:39: Jr seriel: He would have used the skeleton key to unlock the knowledge of that
 * 00:07:43: Nekyn Alb: You can't just cut yourself with the razor and wonderfully be whatever you want
 * 00:07:54: Jr seriel: Mankar Cameron did
 * 00:07:58: Nekyn Alb: He doesn't have it and doesn't know anyone who does, as I said
 * 00:08:19: Jr seriel: Yes. I am just saying potentially
 * 00:08:29: Nekyn Alb: Do you even read what I write? Or what Shawn wrote yesterday?
 * 00:08:50: Nekyn Alb: Mankar was a knowledgable guy and Mehrunes himself taught him how to use the razor
 * 00:09:22: Jr seriel: Yes of course. I think you may be misunderstanding what I am saying though
 * 00:09:43: Jr seriel: The skeleton key can unlock any knowledge though
 * 00:10:06: Nekyn Alb: If there is someone or something that possesses the knowledge
 * 00:10:33: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: there is someone or something that possesses knowledge of CHIM
 * 00:10:47: Nekyn Alb: Sure, multiple people
 * 00:10:50: Jr seriel: Mankar Cameron did and mehrunes dagon. Where does it say though the the skeleton key can only possess the knowledge that is possed by someone else
 * 00:11:21: Nekyn Alb: Hjalti/Talos, Vivec, Mankar, Sotha and a few more are at least aware of the basics
 * 00:11:34: Nekyn Alb: Clockwork City says that
 * 00:11:47: Nekyn Alb: Can I spoil the ending?
 * 00:12:30: Jr seriel: Sure
 * 00:12:38: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: sure
 * 00:12:43: Nekyn Alb: CHIM isn't just knowledge of it though, it requires constant awareness of oneself and a dozen other features
 * 00:13:46: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: CHIM is mostly a combination of knowledge and being a narcissistic dick
 * 00:14:04: Jr seriel: Idk about that Ashley lol
 * 00:14:09: Nekyn Alb: Nocturnal puts the Skeleton Key into Sotha's head to unlock his secrets, since some of the princes are trying to gain control over Towers. She needs to put up with a God who has plans to literally destroy daedric princes so she can achieve that knowledge. If you could just unlock it in yourself, that'd be stupid
 * 00:14:47: Nekyn Alb: True Ashley :D
 * 00:15:23: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: if you're not a dick, the knowledge required for CHIM will completely wipe you from existence
 * 00:15:45: Jr seriel: So potentially what if you used the skeleton key on mehrunes dagon himself? Is he immune somehow
 * 00:15:55: Nekyn Alb: The narcissism is important, you don't have to be an ass :p
 * 00:16:18: Nekyn Alb: I don't think he's immune, not sure
 * 00:16:48: Jr seriel: So you could use the skeleton key on mehrunes and figure out how to reshape yourself with the Razer and turn into whatever
 * 00:17:10: Jr seriel: Kind of brute Force mankar Cameron approach
 * 00:17:34: KINMUNE: Hello there, The Crusader of Truth!
 * 00:17:34: Nekyn Alb: Just need to trap the daedric prince of destruction, but sure
 * 00:17:43: Nekyn Alb: HI
 * 00:17:48: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: it's mankar camoran btw, not mankar cameron
 * 00:18:00: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: cameron is the former british prime minister
 * 00:18:01: Jr seriel: Sorry auto correct
 * 00:18:11: Nekyn Alb: Camaron Diaz
 * 00:18:21: Nekyn Alb: Camoran I mean, shit
 * 00:19:37: Nekyn Alb: My cat started to steal my pens
 * 00:19:56: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: your cat is turning into a real person
 * 00:20:12: Jr seriel: Achieving CHIM?
 * 00:20:28: The Crusader of Truth: o/
 * 00:20:39: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: hi crus
 * 00:21:41: Jr seriel: I'll fight that cat
 * 00:22:17: Nekyn Alb: Sure, fight the khajiiti goddess of weather
 * 00:24:14: Jr seriel: Totally unrelated question
 * 00:24:32: Jr seriel: Does ukonkirves have the same power as mjolnir?
 * 00:25:22: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: who?
 * 00:25:44: Jr seriel: Weapons in Norse mythology
 * 00:25:45: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: mjölnir is Thor's hammer right?
 * 00:25:50: Jr seriel: Yes
 * 00:26:30: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i've never heard of the other one
 * 00:26:45: Jr seriel: It was his brothers axe/hammer
 * 00:27:29: Jr seriel: Ukkon
 * 00:36:09: Jr seriel: I need TSLA to get back down to 270
 * 00:36:42: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: TSLA?
 * 00:36:50: Jr seriel: Tesla stock symbol
 * 00:37:34: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: why do you care about Tesla's stocks?
 * 00:41:14: Jr seriel: I am gonna double down at 270 and buy a bit more tesla stock. Gotta retire someday, might as well be sooner rather than later
 * 00:41:57: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: stocks are basically gambling. if you want savings, it's best to just have your money on banks
 * 00:44:13: Jr seriel: Hahaha absolutely no offense but I am pretty sure my grandfather said the same thing. However, investing is not like gambling in the fact that you can increase your chances by knowing when and what stocks to invest in. Also return interest on bank accounts is not even 1% when the average market return per year is 10%
 * 00:45:14: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: if the economy makes an unexpected twist, you can lose everything
 * 00:45:40: Jr seriel: Sure but you can get out before that happens.
 * 00:46:16: Jr seriel: And even if you do lose a bit from not getting out fast enough it usually is more than offset by your position before the dip
 * 00:46:40: Jr seriel: It comes down to how competent you are at investing I suppose
 * 00:51:31: Jr seriel: And also I don't invest my entire savings. Just a good portion of my retirement funds and some discretionary funds as well
 * 00:51:46: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: then it's ok i guess
 * 01:18:28: KINMUNE: Hello there, Alexei Smirnov!
 * 01:18:38: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: hello
 * 01:18:45: Alexei Smirnov: Hello
 * 01:18:52: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: what's up?
 * 01:19:28: Jr seriel: Hey
 * 01:21:32: Alexei Smirnov: Nothing
 * 01:24:59: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: that's not much
 * 01:25:11: Alexei Smirnov: Mhm
 * 01:25:29: Alexei Smirnov: Brb
 * 01:49:00: The Crusader of Truth: http://prntscr.com/h4mjsc
 * 01:50:42: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: lol
 * 01:51:25: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: jesus was a good man, but nothing more. he is not some magic key to happiness, and he's definitely not the son of god
 * 01:52:26: The Crusader of Truth: That's because you haven't looked into Jesus (kappa)
 * 02:01:12: Jr seriel: It is time for a drink
 * 02:02:37: The Crusader of Truth: Isn't it always
 * 02:03:38: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: ^
 * 02:13:25: Jr seriel: Did anyone notice the similarities between thor the dark world and elder scrolls
 * 02:14:14: Jr seriel: Even got dark elves and mannimarco and lord harkon stuff going on
 * 02:18:20: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: Thor's movies are based on norse mythology. nords are based on vikings. of course there's a lot of similarities
 * 02:19:30: The Crusader of Truth: Going to bed
 * 02:20:43: Jr seriel: Night
 * 02:26:16: Jr seriel: Too bad that TLD can't travel between sovngrad and nirn whenever he/she pleases
 * 02:27:47: KINMUNE: Hello there, Atvelonis!
 * 02:27:49: Atvelonis: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/d/p/3100000000000061974
 * 02:27:53: Atvelonis: upvote pls
 * 02:28:00: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: hi
 * 02:28:02: Atvelonis: no highlight feature yet to spread the word
 * 02:28:02: Atvelonis: hi
 * 02:28:16: Atvelonis: gosh darn wikia and their lack of urgency
 * 02:28:21: Jr seriel: Wait what?
 * 02:28:56: Atvelonis: I made a thread on Discussions encouraging users to edit. Since /d has no way to highlight posts for all users to be notified of the thread, the only way to quickly spread the word of a post is for a lot of people to upvote it
 * 02:29:03: Atvelonis: Discussions is different from the Forums
 * 02:29:20: Atvelonis: New feature
 * 02:29:37: Atvelonis: And by new I mean it's been around since 2015, and Wikia has been updating it veeeery slowly
 * 02:29:48: KINMUNE: Hello there, Qahnaarin1997!
 * 02:29:51: Atvelonis: Desperately need sleep now. Going to die
 * 02:29:51: Atvelonis: night
 * 02:29:52: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: hi qah
 * 02:29:55: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: gn
 * 02:29:57: Qahnaarin1997: Night, Atevl.
 * 02:30:01: Qahnaarin1997: And hello
 * 02:30:05: Qahnaarin1997: Atvel*
 * 02:30:20: Jr seriel: till next time Atv
 * 02:43:09: Jr seriel: Is there a reason why a lot of text refers to dunmer as devils?
 * 03:02:00: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: it's bc nords have a historical rivalry with them
 * 03:02:11: Jr seriel: Very good answer
 * 03:02:26: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: also, they were cursed by azura, so i guess that makes them devils too
 * 03:02:49: Jr seriel: yeah but then vivec whoops azura
 * 04:13:34: KINMUNE: Hello there, RenzXVI!
 * 04:14:25: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: hi
 * 04:14:43: RenzXVI: hi
 * 04:18:12: Jr seriel: hey
 * 04:18:16: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: what's up?
 * 04:19:03: Jr seriel: playing piano mixed with writing narrative's for mods
 * 04:19:36: Jr seriel: you?
 * 04:20:32: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: cleaning my room for when my mom visits
 * 04:21:10: RenzXVI: Wow, she's going to Japan just to visit? How long will she stay?
 * 04:23:53: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: 2 weeks
 * 04:25:04: Jr seriel: Another opinion question
 * 04:25:30: Jr seriel: Would it be at all possible for mannimarco to corrupt the staff of magnus so that magnus can't retreive it
 * 04:27:39: Jr seriel: Or anyone for that matter
 * 04:28:19: Jr seriel: Even just temporarily
 * 04:29:34: RenzXVI: 2 weeks is a good length
 * 04:31:13: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: idk how the staff works or whether magnus still has power over it
 * 04:31:28: Jr seriel: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Staff_of_Magnus
 * 04:31:30: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: aye, 2 weeks is the length of my average vacation
 * 04:31:54: Jr seriel: the wikia states that it disposses the owner as to not upset the balance of mystic power
 * 04:33:38: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: then it would probably not fall into the hands of someone as powerful as mannimarco
 * 04:34:04: Jr seriel: yes, so what if he just corrupted it without taking possession of it
 * 04:34:13: Jr seriel: Would he be capable of something like that
 * 04:35:02: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: probably not
 * 04:35:15: Jr seriel: Darn, do you think anyone could?
 * 04:36:10: Jr seriel: Even if they could just corrupt it temporarily
 * 04:36:48: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: someone powerful enough to corrupt it would probably not come to possess it
 * 04:37:18: Jr seriel: They would corrupt it and give it to someone else
 * 04:38:04: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: they wouldn't come to possess it in the 1st place, so they wouldn't be able to corrupt it
 * 04:38:37: Jr seriel: Okay, let me detail the exact scenario
 * 04:40:42: Jr seriel: TLD posseses the staff of magnus. With the intention of changing its abilities to do more destructive things. He seeks out the ghost of mannimarco. Who uses his power to corrupt staff removing the sworn oath of the staff to maintain mystic balance temporarily to be capable of doing more destructive things.
 * 04:43:17: KINMUNE: Hello there, TheOneFootTallBrickWall!
 * 04:43:22: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: hi
 * 04:43:25: Jr seriel: Hello
 * 04:43:25: TheOneFootTallBrickWall: yo
 * 04:43:28: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i suppose that's possible
 * 04:44:17: Jr seriel: Would that be a possible thing for mannimarco to be able to do? He has done some pretty impressive things in the past so I feel he would be the right person for the role
 * 04:45:19: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: idk, he's mostly a necromancer
 * 04:45:58: Jr seriel: Can you think of anyone who would be a better fit?
 * 04:47:59: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: no
 * 04:48:11: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i suppose magnus himself could do it, but he won't
 * 04:48:18: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: maybe a daedra
 * 04:48:22: Jr seriel: I thought maybe using a deadric prince
 * 04:49:13: Jr seriel: Isnt there a deadric mission where you uncorrupt something
 * 04:51:38: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: yes, the star
 * 04:52:23: Jr seriel: Thats right and that guy was in the star
 * 04:52:31: Jr seriel: and he was able to corrupt that
 * 04:54:01: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i gtg now, take care
 * 04:55:08: Jr seriel: You too!
 * 05:11:21: KINMUNE: Hello there, ShawnCognitionCP!
 * 05:28:03: Jr seriel: Hey shawn
 * 05:28:07: Jr seriel: up hes gone
 * 05:29:56: Jr seriel: THe aucturian heresy is lame
 * 07:11:48: KINMUNE: Hello there, Superalifragilisticexpialodoucious!
 * 07:12:06: Jr seriel: Hey
 * 07:12:18: Superalifragilisticexpialodoucious: hoi
 * 07:12:49: Qahnaarin1997: Greetings.
 * 07:12:49: Jr seriel: I see that you just joined. Welcome!
 * 07:14:54: Jr seriel: He hates us...
 * 07:21:34: RenzXVI: He misspelled the nme.
 * 07:21:39: RenzXVI: twice
 * 07:22:39: Jr seriel: nme?
 * 07:25:47: RenzXVI: Superalifragilisticexpialodoucious. Now that you made me type his name, he misspelled it thrice.
 * 07:26:07: Jr seriel: hahah so sorry! maybe that's why he left
 * 07:28:51: KINMUNE: Hello there, Jets99!
 * 07:29:17: Jets99: Hey can some1 help me?
 * 07:29:28: RenzXVI: I dunno, it depends.
 * 07:29:59: RenzXVI: If it's about cash problems, you'd be more likely to help me than me help you. XD
 * 07:31:23: RenzXVI: That's going to make it even harder to help him...
 * 07:31:46: Jets99: I need help finding the name of a quest
 * 07:32:01: RenzXVI: Oh, what's the quest?
 * 07:32:12: Jets99: Well it's in oblivion
 * 07:32:25: RenzXVI: Oh, I haven't played that.
 * 07:32:35: Jets99: Oh ok
 * 07:32:57: RenzXVI: I think Jr seriel has.
 * 07:33:13: Jr seriel: Yeah what's up!
 * 07:33:17: Jr seriel: which quest
 * 07:33:36: Jets99: Nvm I think I found it
 * 07:34:03: Jets99: i forget the names of quests unless I'm playing and I have the name which sucks
 * 07:34:08: Jr seriel: is it the last Ayleid Crown?
 * 07:34:58: Jr seriel: Sorry Renz I am trying to finish this one mod before this stupid Thor movie comes out
 * 07:35:01: Jets99: No, vahtacens secret I think
 * 07:35:10: Jets99: letme check
 * 07:35:35: Jets99: Yup it's vahtacens secret
 * 07:35:38: Jr seriel: Aww so close they both have to do with Ayleid ruins
 * 07:35:42: Jets99: yeah
 * 07:41:34: RenzXVI: The Thor movie is already out.
 * 07:41:44: Jr seriel: What?! Darnnit!
 * 07:42:12: Jr seriel: Wait, not in the US
 * 07:42:21: RenzXVI: It's not?
 * 07:42:22: RenzXVI: Weird
 * 07:42:27: Jr seriel: Nope Nov. 3
 * 07:42:58: RenzXVI: luckily for me, I am focused on horror movie marathons, I have several dozen to watch.
 * 07:43:18: Jr seriel: I am putting the finishing touches on a Gungnir mod
 * 07:44:12: Jr seriel: Do you write horror on creepypasta?
 * 07:45:23: RenzXVI: No.
 * 07:45:26: RenzXVI: Shawn does.
 * 07:45:34: Jr seriel: I know, that's why I was asking
 * 07:45:37: RenzXVI: And I think he had published a book series.
 * 07:45:48: Jr seriel: I thought he was still in the process?
 * 07:47:04: Jr seriel: gimme one sec. Gotta test everything in game
 * 07:47:24: RenzXVI: He said he will be publishing books over a year ago.
 * 07:49:32: Jr seriel: Oh well then maybe he did. Idk. and theres a bunch of scripted animation problems ugghhhh
 * 07:54:35: Jr seriel: ughhh I can
 * 07:54:45: Jr seriel: *cant find where this is going wrong
 * 08:20:44: Jr seriel: Skyrim play always increases after a thor movie comes out which is why I am trying to get this stuff done soon
 * 08:21:31: RenzXVI: lol
 * 08:22:37: Jr seriel: wooo I fixed it !
 * 10:01:45: KINMUNE: Hello there, NelothCanisRootTea!
 * 10:19:25: KINMUNE: Hello there, SlayerOfTheBad!
 * 10:19:35: SlayerOfTheBad: Hello.
 * 10:24:02: RenzXVI: hi
 * 12:03:19: KINMUNE: Hello there, High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia!
 * 12:08:13: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: ello o/ :D
 * 12:09:59: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: hi
 * 12:12:29: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: what's up?
 * 12:16:43: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: nm, making chicken, gonna pack today :3 wbu?
 * 12:20:05: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: my mom came to Japan
 * 12:43:11: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: awesome :D
 * 12:43:30: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: tbh i kinda want her to leave again
 * 12:58:19: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: :o why
 * 13:06:21: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: she annoys me
 * 13:45:15: KINMUNE: Hello there, The cheese lord of nirn!
 * 13:45:20: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: hi
 * 14:35:26: KINMUNE: Hello there, Mister Min-Maxer!
 * 14:35:31: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: hi
 * 14:35:36: Mister Min-Maxer: Hello.
 * 14:35:44: Mister Min-Maxer: Nice to see you again.
 * 14:35:51: Mister Min-Maxer: How was your halloween?
 * 14:35:57: KINMUNE: Hello there, Firelord1209!
 * 14:36:12: Firelord1209: hi
 * 14:36:18: Mister Min-Maxer: Hey.
 * 14:36:36: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i didn't celebrate halloween
 * 14:36:39: Mister Min-Maxer: Haven't seen you here before.
 * 14:36:46: Mister Min-Maxer: ^^ I was too sick to.
 * 14:36:53: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i wasn't sick
 * 14:36:54: Mister Min-Maxer: I'm still almost 15.
 * 14:37:08: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i'm turning 24 in 2 days
 * 14:37:12: Mister Min-Maxer: I know. I was saying I was.
 * 14:37:14: Mister Min-Maxer: Oh.
 * 14:37:26: Mister Min-Maxer: Well, happy birthday.
 * 14:37:32: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: sorry, misread. thought you said you were sick too.
 * 14:37:34: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: thx
 * 14:37:41: Mister Min-Maxer: I'm turning 15 in like a month or so.
 * 14:37:47: Firelord1209: Happy 2 day early birthday
 * 14:37:58: Mister Min-Maxer: I'm probably the most mature 14 year old on /d
 * 14:38:20: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: could be, /d is pretty immature at times
 * 14:38:24: Mister Min-Maxer: Agreed.
 * 14:38:35: Mister Min-Maxer: The kenny thing was pretty stupid.
 * 14:38:48: Mister Min-Maxer: I went along with it, since I don't mind roleplaying.
 * 14:38:53: Mister Min-Maxer: It went to shit.
 * 14:39:41: Mister Min-Maxer: I have 918 posts, been here since early september or so.
 * 14:40:11: Mister Min-Maxer: In a few months I might try for moderator.
 * 14:40:17: Mister Min-Maxer: Not too sure, though.
 * 14:40:26: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: kenny thing?
 * 14:49:57: Mister Min-Maxer: It was a /d cult based on the cow in Whiterun.
 * 14:50:14: Mister Min-Maxer: It started on a post after SupremeArgonian killed it.
 * 14:50:43: Mister Min-Maxer: Anyways, what do you think of UESP?
 * 14:51:40: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i generally like this wiki better, though UESP has it's good sides
 * 14:52:28: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i'm definitely not one of those people who care abouta "rivalry" between wikis
 * 14:52:34: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: about a*
 * 14:53:06: Mister Min-Maxer: I don't care about rivalry either
 * 14:53:16: Mister Min-Maxer: Just went into their chat. It was SHIT
 * 14:53:45: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: aye, that's why i spend my time here
 * 14:53:54: Mister Min-Maxer: Some guy pretending to be a Nazi, telling us that the "Muslim Sand N*ggers" are killing american people
 * 14:54:05: Mister Min-Maxer: Disgusting.
 * 14:54:26: Mister Min-Maxer: Hey shawn.
 * 14:54:40: Mister Min-Maxer: What's up?
 * 14:55:03: ShawnCognitionCP: Slept in, just waking up.
 * 14:55:14: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: shawn
 * 14:55:32: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: where does the all-maker of the skaal fit into the tamrielic pantheon?
 * 14:55:53: ShawnCognitionCP: It doesn't.
 * 14:56:00: ShawnCognitionCP: And you mean Imperial Pantheon.
 * 14:56:17: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i mean all the other gods in the TES series
 * 14:56:19: ShawnCognitionCP: Every culture has their own faith, none are true, but just parts of the truth.
 * 14:56:49: ShawnCognitionCP: It's their version of Anu, the Godhead.
 * 14:56:53: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: ah
 * 14:57:00: ShawnCognitionCP: The Adversary in Skaal faith is Padomay.
 * 14:57:14: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: the All-Maker actually does things though
 * 14:57:38: ShawnCognitionCP: In their belief.
 * 14:57:42: ShawnCognitionCP: He actually doesn't.
 * 14:57:58: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: the stones on Solstheim are supposedly conduits of his power
 * 14:58:10: ShawnCognitionCP: Supposedly.
 * 14:58:12: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: and they definitely do something
 * 14:58:20: ShawnCognitionCP: As do the Standing Stones in Skyrim.
 * 14:58:34: ShawnCognitionCP: Both give unique magical powers.
 * 14:58:36: Mister Min-Maxer: ^ Yeah.
 * 14:58:43: Mister Min-Maxer: Finally, a discussion about them.
 * 14:58:50: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: true
 * 14:59:08: Mister Min-Maxer: It's like they are never mentioned again, after Ralof/Hadvar mentions them.
 * 14:59:48: Mister Min-Maxer: Guys?
 * 14:59:51: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i think there's references to the standing stones besides ralof/hadvar
 * 15:00:09: Mister Min-Maxer: Do you think that the "Godhead" is canon/true?
 * 15:00:22: Mister Min-Maxer: I think it might just be one interpretation/belief of many
 * 15:00:39: ShawnCognitionCP: It 100% is.
 * 15:00:46: Mister Min-Maxer: Source?
 * 15:00:49: ShawnCognitionCP: The Black Books of Apocrypha even directly say the word "Godhead".
 * 15:00:55: ShawnCognitionCP: Vivec achieved CHIM.
 * 15:00:59: Mister Min-Maxer: Yes, but is TES a dream?
 * 15:01:00: ShawnCognitionCP: He mentions this in-game.
 * 15:01:03: ShawnCognitionCP: CHIM takes a Godhead.
 * 15:01:05: ShawnCognitionCP: Yes.
 * 15:01:14: ShawnCognitionCP: CHIM requires that the Godhead and dream be canon.
 * 15:01:25: Mister Min-Maxer: I think that it is partially true, in a weird way.
 * 15:01:40: ShawnCognitionCP: CHIM is the act of realizing the universe is a dream and everyone is part of the same concept, yet keeping your sense of individuality within that fact.
 * 15:01:54: ShawnCognitionCP: The Sermons go into detail on this.
 * 15:01:58: ShawnCognitionCP: The Walking Way.
 * 15:02:13: Mister Min-Maxer: If Anu is the Godhead, and Akatosh/Anui-El is his soul, then Akatosh is Anu in the dream.
 * 15:02:15: ShawnCognitionCP: Godhead, the dream, and CHIM have been canon since Morrowind.
 * 15:02:20: ShawnCognitionCP: That's wrong.
 * 15:02:25: ShawnCognitionCP: Akatosh is an aka-shard.
 * 15:02:34: ShawnCognitionCP: Anu isn't sentient. He's asleep.
 * 15:02:45: ShawnCognitionCP: So, he made a sentient shard of himself that /can/ think.
 * 15:02:50: Mister Min-Maxer: I think that Akatosh is to Anu as Sithis is to Padomay.
 * 15:02:51: ShawnCognitionCP: And then this shard made a shard.
 * 15:02:52: ShawnCognitionCP: Et cetera.
 * 15:03:01: ShawnCognitionCP: Akatosh is an aka-shard of an aka-shard of an aka-shard.
 * 15:03:13: ShawnCognitionCP: Sithis is the only shard of Padomay.
 * 15:03:17: ShawnCognitionCP: Made in the same way.
 * 15:03:18: Mister Min-Maxer: You seem pretty sure of yourself, are you a developer for TES?
 * 15:03:28: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i kinda like the idea of a dreamer bc it's similar to how i believe the real world works
 * 15:03:37: Mister Min-Maxer: ^ Interesting.
 * 15:03:45: ShawnCognitionCP: I don't need to be a developer to know the lore, hahaha.
 * 15:04:03: ShawnCognitionCP: You're not an anatomist, do you know what a skull is?
 * 15:04:03: Mister Min-Maxer: ^ Arrogance at its finest.
 * 15:04:11: ShawnCognitionCP: Not a physicist, do you know what gravity is?
 * 15:04:30: ShawnCognitionCP: I didn't write Dune, yet I can recite the story.
 * 15:04:35: Mister Min-Maxer: Jesus. I am in Grade 11, but also 14.
 * 15:04:55: ShawnCognitionCP: Then you shouldn't be making such autistic remarks.
 * 15:04:57: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: how does that relate to anything?
 * 15:05:11: Mister Min-Maxer: ^^ Are you serious?
 * 15:05:31: Mister Min-Maxer: That's pretty rude.
 * 15:05:50: Mister Min-Maxer: I know people with Autism, it's not their fault.
 * 15:06:02: ShawnCognitionCP: It still was a shitty attempt to bypass the analogy. You don't have to create the fiction to know what the fiction entails. Otherwise no one would know anything of any fictional story ever.
 * 15:06:11: Mister Min-Maxer: Anyways, I have to go.
 * 15:06:37: Mister Min-Maxer: Still, don't insult mental disabilities to win arguements.
 * 15:06:39: Mister Min-Maxer: Bye.
 * 15:07:13: ShawnCognitionCP: I didn't do it to win the argument. I won the argument /and/ did it. Separation of Ad Hominem and Insults.
 * 15:07:46: ShawnCognitionCP: You're wrong /because/ you're autistic = insulting to win
 * 15:28:04: Mister Min-Maxer: That doesn't make it any less of a dick move.
 * 15:28:15: Mister Min-Maxer: It actually makes it more of a dick move.
 * 15:28:22: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: he's gone
 * 15:28:27: Mister Min-Maxer: I know.
 * 15:28:42: Mister Min-Maxer: Still, do you think he was being a dick?
 * 15:28:57: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: he's always a dick
 * 15:29:02: Mister Min-Maxer: I can tell.
 * 15:29:26: Mister Min-Maxer: Also, "Headcanon" probably isn't part of his vocabulary.
 * 15:29:47: Mister Min-Maxer: That means that when things are up for interpretation, interpret them.
 * 15:29:54: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: what does headcanon have to do with this?
 * 15:30:10: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: CHIM is canon and requires a godhead
 * 15:30:31: Mister Min-Maxer: I know. I mean the part about Akatosh being an akashard of an akashard of a etc.
 * 15:30:43: Mister Min-Maxer: That's not considered canon.
 * 15:30:52: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: it is by some
 * 15:30:52: Mister Min-Maxer: Yet he spouted it as fact.
 * 15:31:10: Mister Min-Maxer: Either way, I learn lore REALLY fast.
 * 15:31:29: Mister Min-Maxer: I only got Skyrim in early september
 * 15:31:38: Mister Min-Maxer: Heard of it before, though.
 * 15:32:21: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i've played it sonce the day it came out
 * 15:32:26: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: since*
 * 15:32:53: Mister Min-Maxer: Cool.
 * 15:33:27: Mister Min-Maxer: Skyrim is the first fantasy style game I started to like.
 * 15:33:36: Mister Min-Maxer: Darksiders was meh.
 * 15:33:42: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i like oblivion better
 * 15:33:48: Mister Min-Maxer: Never played it.
 * 15:33:57: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: but that's probably mostly nostalgia
 * 15:33:57: Mister Min-Maxer: Might get it sometime.
 * 15:34:02: Mister Min-Maxer: Probably.
 * 15:34:12: Mister Min-Maxer: I researched the hell out of it though.
 * 15:34:21: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: everyone else seems to think morrowind or skyrim is best
 * 15:34:29: Mister Min-Maxer: It has a shitty and bugged leveling system.
 * 15:34:34: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: aye
 * 15:34:43: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: not bugged, just shitty
 * 15:35:19: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: you can avoid leveling altogether, and because almost all enemies are leveled, you'll face very weak foes
 * 15:35:22: Mister Min-Maxer: That's either because they think Skyrim is dope because graphics, or Morrowind is best because of nostalgia, and Skyrim sucks because casuals play it.
 * 15:35:36: Mister Min-Maxer: Yeah, that's kinda a dumb idea.
 * 15:35:44: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: morrowind does have the best main quest of all 3
 * 15:35:48: Mister Min-Maxer: Instead of leveling foes, make harder foes.
 * 15:35:59: Mister Min-Maxer: I have trouble with Morrowind's graphics.
 * 15:36:11: Mister Min-Maxer: I've seen playthroughs
 * 15:36:15: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: it doesn't take long to get used to them
 * 15:36:28: Mister Min-Maxer: Do you like any other game series other than TES
 * 15:36:41: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: yes
 * 15:36:54: Mister Min-Maxer: Which ones?
 * 15:37:41: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i like Pokemon, Age of Empires, the Legend of Zelda, Super Smash Brothers and Fire Emblem, among others
 * 15:38:30: Mister Min-Maxer: For me, i'd say Assassin's Creed, Red Dead Redemption, Saints Row, Sleeping Dogs, Fallout, and Dishonored are among my favourites.
 * 15:38:46: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: ah
 * 15:38:47: Mister Min-Maxer: You ever played Assassin's Creed?
 * 15:38:49: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: no
 * 15:39:07: Mister Min-Maxer: You should try it.
 * 15:39:21: Mister Min-Maxer: 2,4 and Brotherhood are my favourites.
 * 15:39:23: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: well, i've played it for about half an hour when my cousin introduced it to me
 * 15:39:33: Mister Min-Maxer: Which one?\
 * 15:39:38: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: idk
 * 15:39:43: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: the newest at the time
 * 15:39:49: Mister Min-Maxer: When was it?
 * 15:39:54: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: not sure
 * 15:39:54: Mister Min-Maxer: Did it have ships?
 * 15:39:57: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: idk
 * 15:40:03: Mister Min-Maxer: Mk
 * 15:40:06: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: didn't see any
 * 15:40:25: Mister Min-Maxer: What did the guy you played as look like
 * 15:40:36: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: don't remember
 * 15:40:42: Mister Min-Maxer: White and red? Blue and brown?
 * 15:40:50: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: blue-brown i think
 * 15:41:05: Mister Min-Maxer: Did you have a tomahawk or 2 swords?
 * 15:41:16: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i remember the game punished me for going on a killing spree
 * 15:41:24: Mister Min-Maxer: Yeah, that happens.
 * 15:41:42: Mister Min-Maxer: Did you have blonde hair?
 * 15:41:47: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: idk
 * 15:42:23: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: tbh i didn't really care for the game
 * 15:42:24: Mister Min-Maxer: Okay. Horses or no horses?
 * 15:42:30: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: didn't see any
 * 15:42:35: Mister Min-Maxer: Well, 4 is ten times better than 3.
 * 15:42:47: Mister Min-Maxer: Get 4 to start the series. It's pretty good.
 * 15:43:02: Mister Min-Maxer: Or 1, if you don't mind the graphics.
 * 15:43:02: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: sorry, i have plenty of stuff to play the coming time
 * 15:43:08: Mister Min-Maxer: Got it, it's fine
 * 15:43:44: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i have my morrowind character to play with, i still haven't bought the latest Legend of Zelda and a new Pokemon game is coming out soon
 * 15:44:32: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: there's also a new age of empires game coming up, but age of empires 2 is all i need
 * 16:04:19: Mister Min-Maxer: Do you play Skyrim often?
 * 16:23:48: KINMUNE: Hello there, LMHarrison!
 * 16:23:56: LMHarrison: Hey!!!!!!
 * 17:59:28: KINMUNE: Hello there, DarkVaultBoy!
 * 18:31:13: Mister Min-Maxer: Hey. Anyone home?
 * 19:33:31: KINMUNE: Hello there, Nekyn Alb!
 * 19:33:33: Nekyn Alb: Hi
 * 19:53:56: KINMUNE: Hello there, Krystula!
 * 19:54:14: Krystula: chat is kinda dead..
 * 19:56:50: KINMUNE: Hello there, SirHadesOfNod!
 * 19:58:00: Nekyn Alb: Hello
 * 19:58:24: Nekyn Alb: It's not dead anymore in some hours
 * 20:15:07: KINMUNE: Hello there, Ikabite!
 * 20:15:17: Nekyn Alb: Hi
 * 20:15:20: Ikabite: There's actually people here this time. What's the occasion?
 * 20:15:51: Ikabite: Haven't been here for a while. Actually I've been trying to see what's new, but last few times I've got on there was nobody here. So that doesn't count.
 * 20:15:54: Ikabite: So yeah.
 * 20:15:57: Ikabite: What's new?
 * 20:22:09: Qahnaarin1997: Tim's gone.
 * 20:25:35: Jr seriel: I am here now so there is that
 * 21:02:58: DarkVaultBoy: Tim got blocked?
 * 21:05:55: Jr seriel: Who was Tim?
 * 21:05:59: Nekyn Alb: Yeh
 * 21:06:07: Nekyn Alb: Ex-crat
 * 21:06:45: Jr seriel: Why did he get blocked ?
 * 21:07:04: DarkVaultBoy: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Log/block?page=User%3ATimeoin
 * 21:07:34: KINMUNE: Hello there, Blademaster Jauffre!
 * 21:07:40: Blademaster Jauffre: Heyo
 * 21:07:53: Nekyn Alb: Because he didn't step down after agreeing to it and was a cunt
 * 21:07:54: Nekyn Alb: Hello
 * 21:08:08: Blademaster Jauffre: -and was advertising UESP-
 * 21:08:12: Nekyn Alb: He was asked to step down because he wasn't qualified
 * 21:08:25: Nekyn Alb: Yeah, counting that as being a cunt. He just did that out of cuntery
 * 21:08:32: Jr seriel: What are the qualifications needed?
 * 21:09:06: DarkVaultBoy: Isn't he like 30?
 * 21:09:07: Nekyn Alb: Proper ability to edit without constantly doing mistakes, participating in wiki decisions etc.
 * 21:09:17: DarkVaultBoy: Think he'd be more mature than that
 * 21:09:19: Blademaster Jauffre: I believe the terms were updated, right?
 * 21:09:27: Blademaster Jauffre: But I can't recall where to find them
 * 21:09:43: Nekyn Alb: The edit requirements got upped for all staff positions
 * 21:10:12: Nekyn Alb: Like some thousand for admin
 * 21:10:22: Blademaster Jauffre: 500 for forum moderator, no?
 * 21:11:10: Nekyn Alb: I don't remember them, it's written down on the application page or somewhere
 * 21:11:20: Jr seriel: You guys may want to put a non-solicitation clause in your terms
 * 21:11:36: KINMUNE: Hello there, Kora Stormblade!
 * 21:11:45: Kora Stormblade: ay
 * 21:12:18: Kora Stormblade: and yea I think staff positions and applications are a bit more tough now
 * 21:12:24: Nekyn Alb: Kommandeur Sturmblase o/
 * 21:12:40: Kora Stormblade: marshal alberkyn \o
 * 21:12:42: Nekyn Alb: What's a non-solicitation clause?
 * 21:13:42: Jr seriel: It would prohibit advertising competeting products such as uesp. It would also discourage people from trying to draft members for their desired community
 * 21:14:02: Kora Stormblade: well I think advertising is not allowed anyways
 * 21:14:53: Kora Stormblade: So including that wouldnt do much, as staff members are expected to know the rules and advertising is one which you can be blocked for
 * 21:15:04: Jr seriel: Aye it is under spam
 * 21:15:14: Kora Stormblade: Yea
 * 21:16:21: Blademaster Jauffre: I always get the feeling that chat is dead
 * 21:16:37: Kora Stormblade: You just have to catch it on a good time honestly
 * 21:16:39: Jr seriel: I would disagree.
 * 21:16:44: Kora Stormblade: These past few days have been rather lively
 * 21:16:58: Blademaster Jauffre: Hmm
 * 21:17:11: Jr seriel: I asked some folks before. And it seems to be a popular opinion that the chat is the primary reason why many members return day in and day out
 * 21:17:16: Blademaster Jauffre: When I'm editing I always tend to see two to three users on chat
 * 21:17:24: Blademaster Jauffre: rarely more
 * 21:17:25: Kora Stormblade: It usually just takes 2-3 or so talkative people and it makes chat alive
 * 21:17:31: Blademaster Jauffre: Ah
 * 21:17:38: Kora Stormblade: And I disagree, when Ive been here there's always been atleast 5
 * 21:17:45: Kora Stormblade: But then again I may see it at different times
 * 21:18:11: Blademaster Jauffre: Do you usually join around the time you joined today?
 * 21:18:18: Blademaster Jauffre: If that makes sense?
 * 21:18:53: Kora Stormblade: Yea it does make sense, and I join anywhere from this time (4:18) to like 9 pm
 * 21:19:14: Nekyn Alb: It takes some more hours for the chat to get more alive
 * 21:19:19: Kora Stormblade: So that's about a 5 hour range that I usually hop in, not really a set time each day but more sporadic
 * 21:19:22: Blademaster Jauffre: Well, I suppose the difference lies in that
 * 21:19:30: Blademaster Jauffre: In my timezone it's 22:19
 * 21:19:59: Blademaster Jauffre: I think when I get on the wiki, most people just aren't done for the day yet
 * 21:20:13: Blademaster Jauffre: Unless if a large portion of the wiki shares my timezone
 * 21:20:18: Blademaster Jauffre: which I doubt
 * 21:20:21: Kora Stormblade: Yea, usually during the day Im busy with school etc and Im sure others have that or work
 * 21:21:02: Nekyn Alb: I got 22:20 as well
 * 21:21:09: Jr seriel: I am at 1721
 * 21:21:18: DarkVaultBoy: how do you search for categories again?
 * 21:21:22: Blademaster Jauffre: Well, you're German, right Nekyn?
 * 21:21:27: Nekyn Alb: Category:Name
 * 21:21:28: Nekyn Alb: Yes
 * 21:21:37: DarkVaultBoy: thanks banana
 * 21:21:38: Blademaster Jauffre: That probably explains it, I'm a border away
 * 21:21:48: Nekyn Alb: fuq u boi
 * 21:21:56: Nekyn Alb: Russia?
 * 21:22:01: Blademaster Jauffre: Other side
 * 21:22:06: Jr seriel: The french side
 * 21:22:12: Nekyn Alb: America?
 * 21:22:24: Blademaster Jauffre: When your country is so small it just gets overlooked
 * 21:22:29: Blademaster Jauffre: I'm Dutch!
 * 21:22:36: Nekyn Alb: That's part of Germany
 * 21:22:38: Jr seriel: Netherlands? Aye cool
 * 21:22:57: Nekyn Alb: I got someone from Luxembourg in my class
 * 21:22:59: Jr seriel: A shame that they didn't qualify for the world cup. Much like the US
 * 21:23:20: DarkVaultBoy: ah yeet
 * 21:23:28: Blademaster Jauffre: Luxembourg? How?
 * 21:23:28: DarkVaultBoy: My hearthfire images page is still a mess
 * 21:24:42: Nekyn Alb: I don't know how, by train or plane probably
 * 21:24:51: Jr seriel: ^ lol
 * 21:25:13: Jr seriel: my bet would be on, by train
 * 21:26:53: Jr seriel: What do you think the possibility that Dumac wielded Sunder in the battle of red mountain?
 * 21:29:23: Nekyn Alb: Doubt it, Kagrenac experimented on the heart with the artifacts
 * 21:29:34: Nekyn Alb: They weren't designed to be weapons
 * 21:30:08: Jr seriel: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Sunder
 * 21:30:20: Jr seriel: It states that: "One account stated that the hammer Sunder was wielded by Dumac Dwarfking during his battle with Wulfharth in the Red Mountain. '
 * 21:30:46: Jr seriel: I agree with you though, I really doubt that he wielded it to defeat wulfharth
 * 21:45:25: Ikabite: Back.
 * 21:45:32: Ikabite: Wow, Timmy got blocked?
 * 21:45:35: DarkVaultBoy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzTiaVq9RN0 watch this
 * 21:45:38: KINMUNE: Blade Runner 2049 - Mesa (Extended)
 * 21:45:39: Ikabite: What for?
 * 21:45:39: DarkVaultBoy: it's gr8 m8
 * 21:45:59: RenzXVI: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/d/p/3100000000000062510 /d users find ways to make dumb posts become on topic.
 * 21:46:30: DarkVaultBoy: Ha you should see the TES Amino, some dumbass said he worships the divines irl
 * 21:47:05: Nekyn Alb: lol
 * 21:47:37: RenzXVI: I don't worship the divines in the game and I do that in real life too... O_o
 * 21:47:37: Ikabite: What did you block Tim for?
 * 21:47:45: RenzXVI: Multiple things.
 * 21:47:50: Ikabite: You as in community.
 * 21:47:55: RenzXVI: Vandalism, sockpuppet vandalism.
 * 21:48:01: RenzXVI: Slander
 * 21:48:11: Ikabite: I can't imagine Tim doing vandalism, he's been here for years and years.
 * 21:48:22: RenzXVI: That doesn't relate to his demotion, that was a different thing.
 * 21:48:34: DarkVaultBoy: He stepped down I thought?
 * 21:48:34: RenzXVI: Are you kidding? He vandalized even as an admin. XD
 * 21:48:59: RenzXVI: I saw him spam a lame category once on a dozen pages and they had to be reverted.
 * 21:49:03: Kora Stormblade: Ika, he was blocked for advertising uesp, and then as he was blocked he used anons to vandalize even more
 * 21:49:09: Kora Stormblade: And then blamed those on his wife
 * 21:49:15: RenzXVI: lol
 * 21:49:16: Kora Stormblade: Im not surprised, just disappointed
 * 21:49:16: Jr seriel: How was azura capable of prophecing the birth of a mortal nevarinne
 * 21:49:31: Ikabite: Define advertising.
 * 21:49:43: Kora Stormblade: Let me find the tp message one sec
 * 21:49:45: RenzXVI: He linked it on a talkpage
 * 21:49:49: Ikabite: Because we all know UESP is better than us in any regard.
 * 21:49:54: Kora Stormblade: No, it was more than that renz
 * 21:50:08: DarkVaultBoy: Cept our chat doesn't look like it belongs in 2003 xd
 * 21:50:16: RenzXVI: He was also trying to recruit people to move to UESP.
 * 21:50:28: Ikabite: Theirs isn't filled with 12-year-olds and autists, however.
 * 21:51:00: Jr seriel: jeez harsh
 * 21:51:03: Ikabite: Then again, arguably, spending time on a wiki in general could be taken as a sign of various degrees of autism.
 * 21:51:20: Kora Stormblade: That's literally every website ika, dont know why they would be better because they have less traffic
 * 21:51:24: RenzXVI: Ikabite, you should see this http://en.uesp.net/w/index.php?title=UESPWiki:Administrator_Noticeboard#Minor_Issue_.28Resolved.29
 * 21:51:52: DarkVaultBoy: I never talked with tim much
 * 21:52:24: DarkVaultBoy: I don't think he liked me oof
 * 21:53:01: RenzXVI: I never thought he liked anyone, except Lilith Rayn.
 * 21:53:06: Jr seriel: That is slander rather than vandolism
 * 21:53:20: RenzXVI: Jr seriel, that's just one thing he did among several dozen.
 * 21:53:24: DarkVaultBoy: Is lilith still here?
 * 21:53:25: Jr seriel: got it
 * 21:53:30: Kora Stormblade: He did a lot of things lmao
 * 21:53:32: Qahnaarin1997: Renz, is Lilith back yet?
 * 21:53:43: RenzXVI: She comes and goes. Maybe she's more often on /d
 * 21:53:46: Ikabite: I'll have a look. Renz they are better regarding page quality, sourcing, original articles, etc.

If you've been around TES communities outside of Wiki - Reddit, 4chan, Bethesda forums, Kirkbride stuff - you'll know that UESP is regarded as a prime source of info, where the wiki has always been laughed at. This is something all lore people knew and yet sticked here for some reason, myself included.
 * 21:53:49: Kora Stormblade: He vandalized, he slandered, he blocked when he wasnt supposed to
 * 21:54:02: Kora Stormblade: Like we care ika lmao
 * 21:54:16: Kora Stormblade: If you like it so much then just go over there instead of calling us crap
 * 21:54:18: Kora Stormblade: Not that hard
 * 21:54:25: Ikabite: I've always cared. It worked as a motivator to improve things here.
 * 21:54:56: Ikabite: It's been a while since I've written anything, I don't think I'll ever come back to it, but it was a cool hoppy to have for a while.
 * 21:55:05: Kora Stormblade: Yet we still arent ever good enough despite being one of the top most visited websites (pinch)
 * 21:55:06: Ikabite: hobby*
 * 21:55:07: Qahnaarin1997: Then cut the pretentious bullshit, Ika.
 * 21:55:28: Ikabite: I don't plan on getting seriously involved with all of this again.
 * 21:55:30: Jr seriel: what is /d?
 * 21:55:42: Qahnaarin1997: There are other, more effective ways to motivate people rather then talking down to them.
 * 21:55:47: RenzXVI: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Help:Discussions
 * 21:55:53: Kora Stormblade: Discussions, it's like an extension of the wiki in thread form
 * 21:56:01: Ikabite: Kora, that's because Wikia is more "social networking" type of thing.
 * 21:56:15: DarkVaultBoy: People calling us crap kinda got me motivated, since whenever I finished a project I actually felt a sense of accomplishment.

Also our chat doesn't look like it belongs in 2003 :P
 * 21:56:34: Ikabite: Like Discord and Teamspeak, while Discord being objectively shit, yet more popular.
 * 21:56:57: Qahnaarin1997: /me is basically Tumblr for TES.
 * 21:57:08: Qahnaarin1997: /d is
 * 21:57:09: Kora Stormblade: Whereas we have plenty of fleshed out pages which they dont have, honestly I think each has stronger areas over the other
 * 21:57:12: Qahnaarin1997: WHat the fuck?
 * 21:57:13: Kora Stormblade: Doesnt mean one is worse or better
 * 21:57:39: Qahnaarin1997: /d is hungry
 * 21:57:48: Ikabite: I'd stay sceptical regarding your claim, Kora.
 * 21:57:51: Qahnaarin1997: Something is odd.
 * 21:57:57: RenzXVI: UESP still has the reason why I never went on there, until now. They look like shit.
 * 21:58:03: Jr seriel: what is odd Qah?
 * 21:58:08: Kora Stormblade: Then that's obviously your choice ika lmao
 * 21:58:24: Qahnaarin1997: I didn't use the /me command yet it entered as such
 * 21:58:25: Kora Stormblade: Just saying, I think it's bad taste to ignore all of our good points just because uesp has better lore pages
 * 21:58:27: DarkVaultBoy: I agree renz
 * 21:58:34: Qahnaarin1997: Chat must be fucked, again.
 * 21:58:36: DarkVaultBoy: The black is far more appealing
 * 21:58:57: RenzXVI: It's not just the black, their layout looks like a way more primitive version of wikipedia.
 * 21:59:01: Jr seriel: I enjoy the black too
 * 21:59:17: RenzXVI: It looks like the oldest website I have ever seen.
 * 21:59:31: Qahnaarin1997: I found this site to be more user friendly even before I was a member.
 * 21:59:39: Jr seriel: Their content delivery is very clear though I must say
 * 22:00:00: DarkVaultBoy: Also our chat isn't shit oof
 * 22:00:15: RenzXVI: lol
 * 22:00:20: Qahnaarin1997: It's becoming shit.
 * 22:00:31: DarkVaultBoy: Still runs far better
 * 22:00:31: Kora Stormblade: Yea, I noticed this website was more hospitable and more clean looking, their pages were hard to find for me but some of their pages had more info
 * 22:00:34: Jr seriel: They just use discord
 * 22:00:37: Ikabite: I don't value aesthetics that much. I stayed here because I had friends here, and because I had already invested here.
 * 22:00:41: Qahnaarin1997: My job is now coming down to babysitting /d users.
 * 22:00:44: Qahnaarin1997: Not ideal.
 * 22:00:52: Kora Stormblade: I never go on /d lmao
 * 22:01:00: DarkVaultBoy: The UESP discord is just full of 12 year olds making sex jokes
 * 22:01:05: Jr seriel: ew
 * 22:01:08: Ikabite: You really love "lmaoing" these days, it seems.
 * 22:01:25: Ikabite: Discord is cancerous in general.
 * 22:01:43: DarkVaultBoy: I use hangouts mostly
 * 22:02:02: Kora Stormblade: Ive only done it four times in the entire time Ive been here (y)
 * 22:02:07: Ikabite: I tried it, but had too many issues, switched back to TeamSpeak.
 * 22:02:27: Ikabite: That's a lot, taking the timeframe into account.
 * 22:02:28: Jr seriel: I use Slack personally for most things
 * 22:02:45: RenzXVI: People use slack outside of work stuff?
 * 22:02:52: Jr seriel: Absolutely
 * 22:02:58: DarkVaultBoy: y
 * 22:03:16: Jr seriel: We liked better than discord or teamspeak or shoutbox
 * 22:03:22: RenzXVI: I've never heard of people using slack that wasn't for work.
 * 22:03:34: Qahnaarin1997: I'll be back later.
 * 22:03:37: RenzXVI: And I literally had Slack for work. Lol
 * 22:04:00: Jr seriel: Yeah we used slack at my previous company too
 * 22:04:00: RenzXVI: I've had online jobs that used slack.
 * 22:04:40: Jr seriel: What do you mean, online jobs?
 * 22:04:47: RenzXVI: A job that is online.
 * 22:04:51: DarkVaultBoy: jobs online
 * 22:05:28: Jr seriel: Thank you for clarifying
 * 22:05:46: RenzXVI: There are lots of kinds of them, so it's hard to explain other than that.
 * 22:05:56: RenzXVI: Even youtubers count as online jobs, technically.
 * 22:06:32: Ikabite: It counts as self-employment, unless they're part of a network.
 * 22:06:34: Jr seriel: I feel like most jobs have an online component which is why I am confused. Do you mean like a remote job, or online retailer, online marketing jobs?
 * 22:06:42: Jr seriel: ahhh so self-employed
 * 22:06:55: Ikabite: I was talking about YouTube.
 * 22:07:01: Ikabite: Not "online jobs".
 * 22:07:34: Jr seriel: Alright fair enough
 * 22:07:35: RenzXVI: I'll go specific then, my first online job was as a supervisor/moderator/promoter for a streaming site.
 * 22:08:11: RenzXVI: THen the other one was encoding scanned documents, it's for digitalization
 * 22:08:12: Jr seriel: That is cool you used slack for that
 * 22:08:29: RenzXVI: SLack was where we discussed internal stuff with other staff.
 * 22:08:46: Jr seriel: Was it an official communication channel?
 * 22:08:53: Jr seriel: or was it more for your own benefit?
 * 22:09:02: RenzXVI: Because it's on online job, we can't really talk to each other during work, So Slack. XD
 * 22:09:23: RenzXVI: It was official.
 * 22:09:32: Jr seriel: Very cool!
 * 22:09:49: RenzXVI: We posted all our logs there, whatever we did, we reported it on slack.
 * 22:10:00: RenzXVI: Like we write down which user needs help with something.
 * 22:10:33: Jr seriel: As a developer, slack is mostly the standard for teams nowadays. Although my current job doesn't use it in favor of more traditional engineering lifecycle and versioning communication channels
 * 22:10:37: RenzXVI: If it was a technical problem then the ITs could check it.
 * 22:10:54: Jr seriel: Ahhh
 * 22:11:27: Jr seriel: we had a portal for the promoters, sales reps, and customer support to have contact directly with the dev team that was outside slack.
 * 23:18:16: Jr seriel: Hey
 * 23:25:18: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: good morning chat
 * 23:25:27: RenzXVI: hi
 * 23:26:07: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: hi
 * 23:59:52: Jr seriel: I thought Deadra couldn't create mortals