Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-27007772-20140611204941/@comment-25100715-20140718115818

^ personally i didnt care if they were in a weakened state, but i agree when i played a nord it was impossible to see my character join the Legion. Tullius sounded so uncaring and showed very little concern for the Nords i remember him telling his second in command "whats with you nords and your damn honor" and "your damn nordic traditions" and the sound of his voice actor (which i believe was done on purpose) was very "another day, another dollar" type personality.

as i said before we got into a talk about the ES lore of gods (thanks guys that was very informative! but should we move that whole conversation so we dont get off track if someone tries to talk about it again?)

I think the Empire in ES will fall, maybe in the next game or 2, the creators seem to have made it in the 4th era exactly the same as Rome before its fall. Generals who have put down so many rebellions, it really is "another day another dollar" for them, corrupt politicians, weak, barely effective leadrship, bad economy, many peoples leaving the empire (i think its what like just the Bretons, Orcs and Imperials, half the nords now?), losing to other rising powers, and a weak military.

I think people who bash the stormcloaks as "ignorant and racist and stupid" for not staying with the Empire might just be nostalgic seeing as this is the last breathe of the Empire Talos created and they want to see it continue and just refuse to except all empires will eventually fall and new ones will take their place. Look at the Redguards, they did fine and they left the Empire, Morrowind is rebuilding but for the moment things seem like it will go back to normal for them and the Argonians...well they never were technically part of the Empire so its still going along smoothly for them.

Personally I dont think the Dominion ruling Tamriel would be bad, only difference would be the Elves and Khajiit would be in charge instead of the Imperials, only thing that needs to go on their side is the Thalmor imo