Board Thread:Consensus Track/@comment-9062114-20141102010736/@comment-9062114-20141110155854

Flightmare wrote: __ So how many of the people in this discussion have actually read TES:BLOCK?

While I haven't been able to keep a close look on the block logs for the past few weeks, I never felt a large portion of users get mistreated. Nevertheless, I will still react on the topics you brought up.

First time blocks can NOT exceed one week
They don't. As stated in the blocking guidelines.

Talk Pages need to be edited by banned users
This is a good point for discussion: Blocking talk page edits is the default across all of Wikia, and it is preconfigured in the blocking tool as well. Usually vandals or trolls will continue their rant on talk pages. The normal way of discussing blocks is to move the discussion to Community Central where the TES admins as well as other Wikia advisors can have a closer look at the situation. This is also helpful for discussions that span multiple wikias. Users often don't know how to proceed when blocked, so this is a point that can use some extra attention.

Users need to be warned
This is up to the admin, he or she will evaluate the contributor and decide if something can be learned from this situation. Good sysops recognize confused users and they can be helped. But introducing a warning-requirement would be very bad. Internet trolls want all the attention they can get. Warning them is giving them what they want. Trolls should be given no attention at all in order for them to stop.

Progressivly long Blocks
See TES:BLOCK

Only official rules can warrent blocks
See TES:BLOCK

Alts should warrant a higher block
This is called block evasion and also covered in TES:BLOCK

The rules should be enforce EQUALLY to everyone
In cases where they aren't, contact one of the other sysops to discuss the sysop not following TES:BLOCK. This also applies to invalid ban length cases. __ I HAVE read the rules right before making the thread, they only apply to vandals and are barely enforced (Look at my recent ban, Two Weeks for a first time thing and it never got lifted, despite supposedly going against, the rules), I made this because again that current one seems really outdated & unenforced, so I thought re-writing it would make stuff way easier.

Just because it's "tradition" or "what's usually done" doesn't mean that it's right or even makes sense. Going cross-Wiki to Community Central (possibly when an Admin doesn't even have an account there, or won't answer), it is much easier to answer on your talk page so others on the Wiki can see the response from the user, and can even contact other on there without having to go cross-Wiki constantly! It isn't assuming Good Faith, if you protect it BY DEFAULT since a user may have a legitimate case for why their blocking was wrong or even them apologizing. Therefor, you could argue it contradicts the assume good faith rule.

And it should not be something they can choose, because that makes power abuse easy. Sometimes users may come off as trolls when like you said, thry might just be unusual behaving people, or someone comes off as a vandal when they really are just are doing bad contributions. If a user is trolling after the warning, the Admin can than block it's so simple, giving them a little attention won't cause a troll rampage, especially when as I said before, just blocking violates the Good Faith policy this Wiki (and others!) run by, and it can help a lot of "confused users" through a little bit of patience.

To every heading you said See TES:Block, those only are made to apply to Vandals and are not enforced, remember I stated this above.

I have tried this before in my own case, nothing happened, everyone pretty much pretended I didn't exist or told me I deserved it. We need something official for a Wiki that makes sure this doesn't happen in the future since clearly the current Blocking Policies and unenforced and poorly worded