Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-24434525-20140228202630

((Ok ever since C0da came out I have been hearing and have been involved with numerous arguments over what is cannon and what isn't. Well after doing plenty of research I found MK's own words and comments about C0da. this is a copy of a conversation between MK and another player/fan. below I have included the web address, so you can read the entire thread yourself. As you can see C0da has nothing to do with the TES series at all, not in reality. Its MK's arguement over what is cannon and intellectual property rights. So I seriously doubt that Bethesda is going to be using C0da and any of MK's "there is no cannon anymore" works except for what charcaters and names they like, which because they own the rights to the game they can use whatever they wish. If I wrote some fan fiction and posted it to the web and they liked parts of it they could use whatever they wished of my writing without paying me or even acknowledging my contributions. Because they own the rights to it.))



Toesock;

I was thinking  C0DA  would be a treatise on some of the unanswered metaphysical mysteries MK has developed, but the finished product seems to intentionally avoid that. Instead it's a metaphor for MK's vision of what the lore community could be.



Canon is a modern concept that is really only relevant in an era that recognizes intellectual property rights. Where narrative is a profit-driven endeavor and stories are owned by corporations. The mythologies of the past were ever evolving, tweaked by hundreds of anonymous storytellers, changing, growing, self-contradicting and alive.



This story protests the modern situation. It's a showdown between corporate canon and ancient open-source storytelling.



So we have Jubal slay Numidium and marry Vivec. Numidium represents the non-contributor who sits back and nay-says everyone else's ideas intead of inventing their own Tamriel. Jubal's eventual accusation is that this sort of thinking secretly wants a "victor" - a version that wins at the expense of eveyone else. This is why Jubal cuts off his hands. He is not engaging in an argument, he is embracing all versions of Tamriel and declaring everything equally valid. That is why the story ends in a marriage. Compromise and happy coexistance instead of battle between ideas. This leads to the birth of the Amaranth - YOU (or I guess WE) - taking ownership of the TES myth back from Bethesda and making our own contributions without worrying which is truer. Everyone keeps asking "which Nerevar", because all of our Nerevars are equally valid. Jubal tells several versions of Vivec's story to emphasize that many different Tamriels can co-exist. The weird TV-head part is there to comment on the commercial nature of canon that is dictated by a corporation for profit.



It's not a new idea. Many people including myself have espoused this viewpoint for ages now. I suppose it is nice to hear it from someone whose ideas are often elevated above those of the rest of the community however. MK's Tamriel ain't more true than yours, so mutate his version to your liking. And then bring it to us, because myth doesn't become myth until it is shared.



(to which MK replies) Toesock, beautiful as always. Stealing!!



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