User blog comment:Spritydove/Deeper Thought into the Civil War/@comment-5135631-20120707164216/@comment-3472264-20120710143738

Ok you presented two counter arguments for two of my points when I presented fourteen points I'm not convinced. Ulfric did in fact betray The Way of the Voice when he used the Thu'um and Toryyg now if he had simply killed him in a traditional sword-to-sword duel I wouldn't be saying that however he instead abused the power of the Voice and used it when he shouldn't have and in a manner that went against the Greybeards' teachings.