Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-3539474-20130910213054/@comment-14359537-20130921032552

Harold Burned-Mane wrote: I still don't see evidence of your claim that the average Elven lifespan is 2900 years, to me that numbers seems very very unlikely. I would go max 300 years.

"or lore, which is baseless" lore isn't baseless, most of what we know of the Elder Scrolls Universe is based on lore. Without it we would not next to nothing.

"and that the elves simply think the humans were barbaric" Snow elves and Nords lived in peace, the Nords population started growing too fast and soon they would have outnembered the Snow Elves, fearing for their lives the Snow Elves commited genocide and killed every nord in Skyrim,except one Ysgramor. He later returned to Atmora and brought his 500 Companions and utterly whopped the Snow Elves. My point being if 501 Nords can kill almost all the Snow Elves then the Human Armies can destroy the AD if they are prepared (which they weren't in the first Great War).

See its not only me who thinks it impossible to hide a couple hundred Bosmer/Khajiits in High Rock. Pink did bring up a good point, High Rock is made up of many diferent kingdoms each has its own army and is prepared for a siege(as the kingdoms constantly fight each other), very similar to the feudal sistem in medieval europe.

I also heard the Khajiit complain about the cold, almost all non-nords complain about the cold. Just as fun fact: i live in a subtropical climate(south america) and here we have 4 seasons like in the northern hemisphere's temperate climate(the diference being here it rains more), i have lived here all my life and costantly complain about the harsh climate(in latin america we don't have the inferstuction that the north hemisphere has, our houses aren't heated). If changes in seasons make us fell unconfertable in real life imagine a dramatic change in climate for an invasion force, they will suffer from the cold.

The whole thinking its not worth the effort to conquer, the Thalmor are super stuborn they didn't want to withdrawn any of the claims in the WGC even when they were losing the War, they were don't argue(they lost their biggest army). It is debatable if the Empire could have won the War but thanks to Titus we will never know(that spineless fool). I personally think he could have atleast presurred the AD into a better deal, as he didn't sign a peace treaty it was a surrender(wonce again, that spineless fool). Back to the point though, the Thalmor don't give up until there is no other option, if they could have taken Hammerfell they would have. Lol, ok you got me, the average lifespan of an elf is less than that due to the fact that the elves suffer diseases and war:P. Even so, If you look up the article on mer, you can see that it is possible that the elves can live for so long. And due to this, we can assume that Elves have a much longer average lifespan than humans, who also suffer from disease and violence.

When I said that piece of evidence is baseless, You said we would know next to nothing without it. That is true. However, when a piece of lore defies logic, in the way I mentioned, it's like an unreliable source of information. And elves do think of humans as barbarians. And about 500 atmorans being able to destroy the elves, these people are probably not your everyday nords. For one thing, they are SPECIFICALLY equipped to fight elves (e.g, Wuuthrad). We also know that the Companions are descended from these 500. I remembered Vilkas compared himself to 12 legionnares, and we can also assume the Atmorans are stronger than this, because they came from a much, much harsher environment. So really, you can't use these 500 to compare the Elves to men. Anyways, these are Altmer we're talking about, not snow elves.

If they're made of seperate kingdoms, great. That makes it harder for them to coordinate. if the AD scatter themselves all around High Rock, in groups of about two dozen each, and only band together against harder targets, it'll be difficult to see them, to say the least.

And as I said; the Khajiit may complain about it, but they can do what they do best, even though the temperature is not what they're used to. Think about it; has the cold really effected you in your work/studies significantly? Even so, warfare involves moving around and fighting, so adrenaline rush and movement will stop them from freezing. And really, I don't think High Rock is THAT cold. At the very least, it's warmer than Skyrim. The Khajiit can live in Skyrim, so they definitely will be able to live in High Rock.

And really, who are you to say the Thalmor are stubborn? What evidence do you have to support that? In my eyes, the Thalmor are anything but reckless. And if you're going to say Titus is a bad leader, well what do you know: this time it's even worse, because CYRODIIL DOESN'T HAVE A LEADER. I won't say anything against the fact that Titus is weak kneed. However, he was, at the very least, a competent commander, since he was the one who led the battle of the red ring. So if you completed the DB questline, and I suggest all questlines are completed by the time of the war, the Empire would be in a much more precarious position, because they lost a good commander. And if you didn't kill him, he is still leader of Cyrodiil, and therefore, tamriel is still led by a weak willed leader. So either ways, it works for the Thalmor; weak willed leader, or no leader at all?