Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-186.215.22.127-20130215011559/@comment-27913894-20160608194649

Dapoculos13 wrote: 98.202.92.208 wrote: That was very well put together, but you're missing the part that makes Talos so unique. Tiber Sptim was an oversoul of two people which included Zurin, who was indeed Imperial. We often use Hjalti as the main person who was Tibet and who is now Talos, but that leaves out the importance of Zuri and Wulfharth. So to the question of was he Nord, Breton, or Imperial, we can simple say, "yes." Being the oversoul of two people, those two particular individuals could thus explain Tiber Septim's Imperial and Nordic ancestral ties. Well the thing is, we're talking about Tiber Septim/Hjalti Early-Beard the Man, not Talos the Divine. Oh, and here's something else that's interesting that also supports Tiber Septim's Breton ancestry. In the description detailing Tiber Septim's physical appearance in the book 'The Real Barenziah, Book III' in Skyrim, it also mentions that "he was well-knit of figure and lithe of movement." Well-knit means that his physical build was solid, fair, and strong enough to lend itself to Tiber Septim, allowing him to fight as an acceptable warrior, many of which exist in High Rock as excellent battlemages. Many Bretons tend to use full plate armour and a sword in one hand, while wielding a powerful Destruction spell in the other hand. This is even supported by the possibility of having a rogue Breton attack you in Skyrim as a random event.

As if that's not enough, it says he was "lithe of movement." as stated earlier. Lithe is an alternate word for 'agile', and as many of us know, the races of Mer posess slender and agile frames, as do the Bretons to a lesser extent. This is in high contrast to the muscular, tall, and thick depiction of an average Nord warrior raised in Skyrim. Some could argue that Tiber Septim couldn't have been a Breton because he's Dragonborn, and the Dragonborn are primarily known for being of Nordic descent in the lore. While this does bring up an excellent point, it's not entirely true. While many Dragonborn have, according to official lore and canon, been confirmed as Nords/Atmorans, there are also a select amount of, presumabely, Imperial/Nedic humans in the series that were noted to either be gifted with Dragon's blood like St. Alessia, or have it at birth like Tiber Septim. Coupled with the fact that you're able to play as any race in Skyrim yet still use the voice, this implies that any individual, with enough practice and proper learning, can use the Thu'um.

Some could also argue that Tiber Septim couldn't have been a Breton because we don't have any solid evidence or accounts of him using Magic, apart from the Thu'um, which is technically a type of Magic. However, as some of us will know, the Imperial Legion is, according to lore, known for making extensive use of Restoration spells and Alchemy to heal their soldiers on the battlefield in times of need. Is it so hard to believe that Tiber Septim himself would have practiced this school of Magic, or tried his hand at Alchemy once in his life? After all, the Imperial race in Skyrim start off with a Restoration skill of 25. While they may not have a boost in Alchemy for reasons unknown, their large boost in Restoration speaks for itself if you ask me. Besides, I imagine Tiber Septim would have had to make use of Restoration Magic or a Healing Potion after his neck was cut during the attempt on his life, lest he bleed out from the jugular vein.

As a final note, Tiber Septim was known as a highly intelligent military tactician, intelligence being a very distinctive feature of the Elves, and the Bretons as well. Judging by the sheer speed in which he managed to gain control of the continent, and the sheer success he had in doing so, Tiber Septim fits into just about every criteria that Dapoculos and I mentioned in our posts that would make up the traits, gifts, and overall characteristics of a Breton. I hereby rest my case, and I can say with definitive proof, after literally researching this subject for hours on end, that Tiber Septim was a Breton, containing Nordic blood ties in his ancestors, and Imperial blood ties in his offspring and kin that would carry his surname.

Tiber Septim was a Breton.