The Elder Scrolls Wiki:Moot/Log 2015 October 03

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Touching_the_Sky_(Quest)
 * 00:02:51: Cheatcodechamp: I think we can start, Tims not coming and I would hate to delay to long
 * 00:03:03: Atvelonis: we just sort of arbitrarily decided 12am UTC would be good
 * 00:03:09: Atvelonis: which makes a little bit of sense
 * 00:03:11: Atvelonis: but not really
 * 00:03:29: Cheatcodechamp: Atve, your item is listed first on the agenda, you want to start?
 * 00:03:34: Bluesonic1: Works well for me if I'm not working =P
 * 00:03:38: Atvelonis: uh sure
 * 00:04:03: Atvelonis: Ok, well I designed a little nav template for staff on my sandbox.
 * 00:04:15: Atvelonis: This would help users (especially new users) figure out who is who more easily
 * 00:04:28: Atvelonis: User:Atvelonis/Sandbox it's here, at the bottom
 * 00:04:30: The Sienna Who Couldn't Decide on a Username: Indy, hey!
 * 00:04:53: Atvelonis: I want to know 1. what you guys think about the concept and 2. what you guys think about the actual formatting
 * 00:04:55: Atvelonis: go!
 * 00:05:09: The Crusader of Truth: Looks great to me (wink)
 * 00:05:21: The Crusader of Truth: Honestly wish I had that when I started wikia
 * 00:05:24: Bronkiin: Formatting: I would be inclined to seperate it from History.
 * 00:05:35: Atvelonis: Oh well it's not part of that
 * 00:05:40: Atvelonis: It's a different thing
 * 00:05:45: Atvelonis: It would go at the bottom of your profile
 * 00:05:54: Atvelonis: If you're staff (if you want)
 * 00:06:01: Atvelonis: Would be optional but encouraged
 * 00:06:21: Cheatcodechamp: Looks good to me
 * 00:06:22: Bluesonic1: Love it, looks great!
 * 00:06:25: The Crusader of Truth: Could anyone use it instead? Feel like I need it, I forget everyone's name sometimes
 * 00:06:31: RenzXVI: Looks good to me.
 * 00:06:36: Bronkiin: Yep, like it.
 * 00:06:36: WizardJeremy: can you imagine the addams family in skyrim
 * 00:06:36: Bluesonic1: (Just wanna point out that Dovahsebrom's name has "User:" in front)
 * 00:07:05: Atvelonis: How did i not see that (facepalm)
 * 00:07:08: Atvelonis: thanks blue
 * 00:07:21: Cheatcodechamp: So, besides that minor issue, I think we can take it to a vote
 * 00:07:25: Cheatcodechamp: All in favor?
 * 00:07:27: Atvelonis: (y)
 * 00:07:37: RenzXVI: (y)
 * 00:07:38: The Crusader of Truth: (y)
 * 00:07:43: Cheatcodechamp: (y)
 * 00:07:54: Bronkiin: If I knew how to give a thumbs up, I would.
 * 00:07:58: Atvelonis: ( y )
 * 00:08:00: Atvelonis: without the spaces
 * 00:08:01: The Crusader of Truth: "(y)"
 * 00:08:07: Bronkiin: (y)
 * 00:08:10: Bronkiin: There we go.
 * 00:08:19: Cheatcodechamp: Anybody else?
 * 00:08:25: Bluesonic1: (y)
 * 00:08:46: The Crusader of Truth: Comment, if I may?
 * 00:09:03: Atvelonis: Sure, go ahead
 * 00:09:03: The Crusader of Truth: Any user can use this, or just admin? o/
 * 00:09:07: WizardJeremy: gonna go, i may be back
 * 00:09:13: Atvelonis: Well, I was thinking just staff
 * 00:09:15: Atvelonis: Anyone listed there
 * 00:09:27: Bluesonic1: Makes more sense
 * 00:09:33: Atvelonis: Like, it doesn't really make sense for a locations article to have a quests navbox
 * 00:09:36: Atvelonis: same idea here
 * 00:09:48: The Crusader of Truth: Makes sense, though I feel like I need it sometimes personally
 * 00:10:03: The Crusader of Truth: I'm really...forgetfull.
 * 00:10:20: Cheatcodechamp: Any more questions/comments/votes about the template?
 * 00:10:23: RenzXVI: There's an admin link on top of the chat if you forget names?
 * 00:10:59: The Crusader of Truth: Aye, I could do that, just the prior looks simpler
 * 00:11:01: Cheatcodechamp: Then I will assume we all agree and the motion passes 6-0
 * 00:11:07: Indylord: Guys
 * 00:11:11: Cheatcodechamp: Indy?
 * 00:11:24: Atvelonis: MGSV?
 * 00:11:31: Indylord: Having a tough time between using money later this year for Bloodborne, MGSV, or other stuff.
 * 00:11:34: Atvelonis: Template:StaffNav
 * 00:11:36: Cheatcodechamp: Elder scrolls I would say
 * 00:11:43: Indylord: ?
 * 00:11:47: Indylord: ESO?
 * 00:11:51: Atvelonis: If you haven't played Morrowind, Oblivion, or Skyrim, get one or more
 * 00:11:55: Indylord: Have all 3
 * 00:11:56: Atvelonis: ESO... if you like MMOs
 * 00:12:04: Indylord: I'm a huge fan of TES lol
 * 00:12:10: Atvelonis: It's a good MMO, an ok... ish Elder Scrolls game
 * 00:12:15: Indylord: Same thing with FO, I have all games except for 3
 * 00:12:18: Bluesonic1: Ehh moot?
 * 00:12:19: Cheatcodechamp: Anyway, back to the moot....
 * 00:12:41: Cheatcodechamp: I have an idea for FA articles, but it may be a little compex
 * 00:12:52: Cheatcodechamp: Some articles have a lot of content in their lead. We of course have an infobox, with luck a quote, and at times we also have the FA/GA template and our "see also/other uses" templates.  When you have this much, it effects the layout.  I am thinking that we can fix this by creating a new template, or a set of templates, for articles that are featured, in order to lessen the code in the front.
 * 00:13:28: Cheatcodechamp: When we have a lot of code in the top, we get this
 * 00:14:04: KINMUNE: Hello there, Gaming Foxy!
 * 00:14:06: Bluesonic1: Honestly that one's not as bad as others I've seen but yeah
 * 00:14:09: The Crusader of Truth: o/
 * 00:14:15: Cheatcodechamp: The FA template should alline with the infobox or image, but because of the "other" template it effects layout. A new template, should it be possible, should be able to fix this
 * 00:14:34: Cheatcodechamp: I had one early this week, but forgot the one I was going to use
 * 00:15:37: Atvelonis: That's a problem with the template itself?
 * 00:15:42: Atvelonis: It has a lead automatically
 * 00:16:01: Atvelonis: So to fix that for quests we would have to add the lead manually to every quest article we have
 * 00:16:08: Atvelonis: Of which there are many
 * 00:16:30: Cheatcodechamp: Neither template is broken, all the templates are ok, but because of the extra templates in the lead, the FA template is moved from being "on" the infobox to floating on top of it
 * 00:16:43: Gaming Foxy: hi
 * 00:16:46: Atvelonis: It's not broken, it just has the lead
 * 00:16:49: Atvelonis: hey
 * 00:17:04: Bluesonic1: Would moving it around in the article fix that?
 * 00:17:18: Cheatcodechamp: A new template for FA/GA articles with the little status template should prevent the style from being altered
 * 00:17:20: Atvelonis: I don't think so blue
 * 00:17:36: Atvelonis: No... just remove the lead from the template and get the bot to add it as text in the articles ccc
 * 00:17:51: Gaming Foxy: uh
 * 00:17:54: Cheatcodechamp: I try moving them, it always effects something if we have to much.
 * 00:17:57: Gaming Foxy: Wikia was glitching
 * 00:18:17: Gaming Foxy: so if you are talking about templates changing without reason
 * 00:18:20: Gaming Foxy: it might be that
 * 00:18:34: Cheatcodechamp: The lead is already text.
 * 00:18:37: Cheatcodechamp: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Priest
 * 00:18:46: Bluesonic1: I just tried remove everything except that FA and infobox template and it still doesn't work, so I don't think it's from having too much stuff in there
 * 00:18:54: Atvelonis: No, it's that all quest article templates we have for some reason automatically add " is a quest available in The Elder Scrolls V: Dawnguard."
 * 00:18:56: Atvelonis: Or whatever
 * 00:19:05: Atvelonis: How about... we remove the lead?
 * 00:19:12: Atvelonis: And add it as text?
 * 00:19:18: Cheatcodechamp: Im talking about the FA/GA template, I am suggesting making templates with that template image in the corner if possible so we dont have it none allining when we have three or four template on top
 * 00:19:47: Atvelonis: And CCC the dragon priest thing is a problem with the flags
 * 00:19:50: Atvelonis: I am fixing that now
 * 00:19:54: Bluesonic1: Ahh
 * 00:20:23: Cheatcodechamp: If the problem can be fixed in a simpler matter, I would be down with that
 * 00:20:37: Atvelonis: There it should be fixed now for Dragon Priest
 * 00:20:41: Cheatcodechamp: Also, are any of us enjoying that new flags sytem? I am not seeing much use
 * 00:20:51: The Crusader of Truth: I like it personally
 * 00:20:57: Bluesonic1: Maybe try removing the lead first like Atvl says, and see if that works as it seems a much simpler solution
 * 00:21:09: Atvelonis: I sorta like it... sorta
 * 00:21:12: Atvelonis: Like
 * 00:21:22: Bluesonic1: Flags system is just a simpler way of using maintenance templates, it's alright
 * 00:21:45: Atvelonis: It messes up some stuff with and  and all that but otherwise it's ok.
 * 00:22:29: Cheatcodechamp: Ok, back to my complicated idea. It seems Atve knows a fix by removing the lead or toying with the flags, all in favor of just doing what Atve said we should do?
 * 00:22:59: Bluesonic1: Yep, if it doesn't work, we'll come back to your idea =)
 * 00:23:06: Atvelonis: (y)
 * 00:23:06: The Crusader of Truth: Atvelonis knows more about this then I feel like I do now (y)
 * 00:23:14: Bluesonic1: (y)
 * 00:23:30: RenzXVI: (y)
 * 00:23:53: Cheatcodechamp: Ok, looks clear
 * 00:24:12: Cheatcodechamp: While I add this to the summary, any other items of buisness?
 * 00:24:33: Atvelonis: I have one more
 * 00:24:51: Cheatcodechamp: Take it away
 * 00:25:31: Atvelonis: (Pretty minor) As some of you are aware, I've recently added all of Oblivion's Loading Screens to the wiki via the Construction Set.
 * 00:25:41: KINMUNE: Hello there, Kittycat1112!
 * 00:25:50: Atvelonis: Currently, they're in a horrible, huge, boring list
 * 00:26:23: Atvelonis: I want to organize them somehow, do you guys have suggestions on what headings they should be grouped under?
 * 00:26:31: Kittycat1112: Hello
 * 00:26:46: RenzXVI: Wow, that's a long wall of text.
 * 00:26:49: Cheatcodechamp: How do we organize the hold guard quotes? That method would work
 * 00:27:06: Atvelonis: We could go really vague like ==Magic== ==Combat== ==Creatures== or whatever or more detailed like ===Restoration=== ===Speed=== ===Acrobatics=== or whatever
 * 00:27:18: Atvelonis: It depends on how many we want each heading to have
 * 00:27:23: Cheatcodechamp: I was thinking something like this:
 * 00:27:27: Bluesonic1: I would say make large groups of topics you feel are related and go with that. In a situation like this, it's hard to get it well organised
 * 00:27:48: Cheatcodechamp: Class, race, location, skill, creatures
 * 00:27:55: Cheatcodechamp: Something like that at least
 * 00:28:02: The Crusader of Truth: All ideas seem the same to me
 * 00:28:25: Atvelonis: So somewhat larger categories? gotcha
 * 00:28:39: Atvelonis: So each one would have quite a few underneath it but they would be organized finally
 * 00:28:42: Cheatcodechamp: No need to over organize, not unless we have a ton of restoration tips.
 * 00:29:03: The Crusader of Truth: I would recommend to make sure to not make it into a giant bin of a few labels though
 * 00:29:14: Cheatcodechamp: group them together, but if there are only one or two, a sub group will be a waste of space.
 * 00:29:17: Bluesonic1: Yeah, considering this is just a collection of trivia
 * 00:29:42: Atvelonis: Alright, makes sense. Thanks for your input.
 * 00:29:46: Atvelonis: Vote?
 * 00:29:53: Cheatcodechamp: (y)
 * 00:29:59: RenzXVI: (y)
 * 00:30:01: Cheatcodechamp: Not sure why we are voting, but yes
 * 00:30:02: Atvelonis: For larger categories like CCC/Blue suggested
 * 00:30:04: Atvelonis: (y)
 * 00:30:13: Cheatcodechamp: ah, then I still vote (y)
 * 00:30:14: The Crusader of Truth: (y)
 * 00:30:22: Bluesonic1: (y)
 * 00:30:29: Bronkiin: (y)
 * 00:31:10: Cheatcodechamp: Anyone else?
 * 00:31:23: Cheatcodechamp: If not I have another item
 * 00:31:25: The Crusader of Truth: Errr, do we vote on FA tonight?
 * 00:31:33: Atvelonis: We already did FA
 * 00:31:36: Atvelonis: that's separate
 * 00:31:48: The Crusader of Truth: Gotcha
 * 00:31:52: Atvelonis: We vote on Image and Quote here though
 * 00:31:58: Cheatcodechamp: Ok, if you will all look this way
 * 00:32:04: Cheatcodechamp: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_Wiki:Quote_of_the_Week
 * 00:32:18: Atvelonis: So unless anyone else has any votes, it passes 6-0
 * 00:32:23: Cheatcodechamp: It turns out that this wiki used to do weekly quotes back in 2009
 * 00:32:46: Cheatcodechamp: I also found two archives, one containing a ton of old quotes
 * 00:33:08: Cheatcodechamp: I think we need to keep the past decisions, but adapt the page to the modern system
 * 00:33:28: Cheatcodechamp: But before I gut a page and move things around, I wanted feedback
 * 00:33:49: Atvelonis: My pre-feedback would be to make changes in a sandbox before making the changes for real
 * 00:33:49: RenzXVI: I don't even know what type of ancient tabber looking thing that is.
 * 00:33:58: Cheatcodechamp: What do we do with the archives, the old quotes, and the page itself
 * 00:34:16: Atvelonis: And for actual feedback: update the tabber, scratch the background
 * 00:34:17: The Crusader of Truth: @Renz, agreed.
 * 00:34:18: Atvelonis: Archives stay
 * 00:34:30: Bluesonic1: ^ That
 * 00:34:36: Atvelonis: Make a new archive, The Elder Scrolls Wiki:Quote of the Week/Archive 2 for newer quotes
 * 00:35:28: Cheatcodechamp: Ok, seems ill work on a format and will present it next week then? Or do we just want me to handle it? Im good either way
 * 00:35:57: Atvelonis: Sure, that works
 * 00:36:00: Atvelonis: (y)
 * 00:36:23: RenzXVI: Present it next week? (y)
 * 00:36:29: The Crusader of Truth: (Yes)
 * 00:36:59: Bluesonic1: (y)
 * 00:37:23: Cheatcodechamp: Ok, I will lay it on you all next week for approval
 * 00:37:55: Cheatcodechamp: Do we have any other items of discussion?
 * 00:38:10: Atvelonis: Bronkiin, I believe you had something regarding the moot itself?
 * 00:38:44: Bronkiin: We touched on the moot's timing earlier but I'll bring it up again.
 * 00:39:26: Bronkiin: There seems to be an inclination towards finding a more suitable time for all parties at the moot. It's 1:00 am here...
 * 00:41:18: The Crusader of Truth: I'm not as unlucky, but I agree
 * 00:41:26: RenzXVI: Moot is 8am for me, but I sleep at around 6am... XD But last time we talked about this, no one could think of a better time though, so it stayed as is.
 * 00:41:29: Cheatcodechamp: Time is a harder thing for me, I cant do it earlier on Saturdays, so my only other option would be another day of the week
 * 00:42:44: Kittycat1112: Moot is at lunch time for me :D
 * 00:42:52: Bronkiin: I think this'll need to be opened up beyond the moot, so as many people can suggest timings.
 * 00:42:55: Atvelonis: I can do it earlier Saturdays, or a whole lot later, I don't mind
 * 00:42:56: Atvelonis: yes
 * 00:42:57: Atvelonis: CT
 * 00:43:04: Cheatcodechamp: So how do we handle this?
 * 00:43:23: RenzXVI: CT.
 * 00:43:32: Bluesonic1: What I suggested the last time this got brought up- make a CT on the forums =P
 * 00:43:54: The Crusader of Truth: Say, does it have to be on Saturday? I can name quite a few users that are only here on weekdays.
 * 00:44:00: Atvelonis: Ehh
 * 00:44:07: Atvelonis: Weekdays are very difficult for a lot of us
 * 00:44:17: Atvelonis: School or work make weekdays hard
 * 00:45:09: Bronkiin: Weekdays are hard because of time of day.
 * 00:45:11: Cheatcodechamp: Its currenly helpful, as we can post the moots results to the weekly update now with ease, if we moved it, it would either be days before we posted moot results, we would post them on their own, or I have to change the day I post the update.
 * 00:45:39: The Crusader of Truth: Hmmm, well it does seem we all have a different time we would like, plus what CCC said.
 * 00:45:47: Cheatcodechamp: Most people work during the week, weekends give some more people a chance to attend without missing school or work sleeping hours
 * 00:46:22: The Crusader of Truth: Or just come here during class (wink)
 * 00:46:25: The Crusader of Truth: It's still bad
 * 00:46:32: The Crusader of Truth: o/
 * 00:46:43: Bronkiin: The problem with weekdays is that people will only be free in the evenings. Evenings are at a different time depending on where you are.
 * 00:46:52: Cheatcodechamp: If it goes over now, we can sleep in a little unless we go to church on sunday, we do this in the middle of the week we mess with somebodies school or job
 * 00:47:17: Atvelonis: Damn timezones... :P
 * 00:47:21: The Crusader of Truth: It seems we should keep it the same, to me then, we shouldn't have it on weekdays and we all want different weekend times
 * 00:47:30: Atvelonis: So... Bronkiin, do you want to start a CT on this?
 * 00:47:34: RenzXVI: Yeah, people can theoretically have all day during weekends to adjust for the moot. Weekdays are too limited.
 * 00:47:47: Bronkiin: I'm inclined to CT it.
 * 00:48:12: Atvelonis: Great. You make the thread now, CCC will post it in the Weekly Update when you're done with it.
 * 00:48:26: Atvelonis: Stay on chat and tell us when you've finished it so we know when to add it.
 * 00:48:40: Cheatcodechamp: Sounds good, lets see how this plays out.
 * 00:48:42: Bronkiin: Yep.
 * 00:48:50: The Crusader of Truth: (y)
 * 00:48:51: RenzXVI: So it just asks time during weekends?
 * 00:49:08: Cheatcodechamp: We would discuss if we should move it and when
 * 00:50:02: KINMUNE: Hello there, The Rim of the Sky!
 * 00:50:03: The Rim of the Sky: Ah shit
 * 00:50:09: The Rim of the Sky: I'm not too late for the moot am I?
 * 00:50:15: Cheatcodechamp: Its still going on
 * 00:50:17: The Rim of the Sky: Ok
 * 00:50:20: Cheatcodechamp: You have anything to say?
 * 00:50:23: The Crusader of Truth: Hey Rim o/
 * 00:50:23: Bluesonic1: Hey Rim =)
 * 00:50:26: The Rim of the Sky: I have a featured photo suggestion, should I send it to you?
 * 00:50:42: Cheatcodechamp: BTW, who here has a quote/image for this week? PM it to me if you do
 * 00:50:45: Bluesonic1: Oh yeah I have quotes to submit too
 * 00:50:46: Cheatcodechamp: yeah
 * 00:51:17: The Rim of the Sky: So uh
 * 00:51:20: The Rim of the Sky: Any topic at the moment?
 * 00:51:22: Atvelonis: Bronkiin and I have a quote from ESO
 * 00:51:27: Atvelonis: I think we just finished topics
 * 00:51:32: Atvelonis: Unless anyone else has any?
 * 00:51:42: Cheatcodechamp: We just decided to do a CT on moot time
 * 00:51:44: The Rim of the Sky: I have at least 2
 * 00:52:09: Atvelonis: Go ahead then
 * 00:52:12: The Rim of the Sky: Okay
 * 00:52:15: The Rim of the Sky: First topic:
 * 00:52:16: Cheatcodechamp: You have the floor Rim
 * 00:52:26: The Rim of the Sky: The MOTM header is merged with the Patroller header
 * 00:52:32: The Rim of the Sky: If you don't know what I'm talking about
 * 00:52:58: The Rim of the Sky: See User:The Rim of the Sky and User:Starkiller131
 * 00:53:24: The Rim of the Sky: For some reason the MOTM and Patroller header seen beside the username is merged
 * 00:53:33: The Rim of the Sky: Small suggestion, but I just think they should be seperate
 * 00:53:35: The Rim of the Sky: That is all
 * 00:53:37: Bluesonic1: Isn't that intentional?
 * 00:53:38: The Rim of the Sky: Any questions?
 * 00:53:40: Cheatcodechamp: Everybody who is staff has it set up this way, the code list people like that
 * 00:53:48: Cheatcodechamp: Its intentional
 * 00:54:04: Atvelonis: weeeeeell
 * 00:54:04: Bluesonic1: Yeah I thought so, so it takes up less room
 * 00:54:10: Atvelonis: User:Atvelonis lookie here
 * 00:54:23: Cheatcodechamp: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/User:Cheatcodechamp
 * 00:54:23: The Rim of the Sky: Looks much better for Atvelonis
 * 00:54:25: Atvelonis: Administrator and MOTM - February 2015 are separate
 * 00:54:29: Cheatcodechamp: Mine is connected
 * 00:54:36: The Rim of the Sky: It's also much more clearer to understand
 * 00:54:37: Cheatcodechamp: My crat one is anyway
 * 00:54:57: RenzXVI: Weird, it's not uniform then.
 * 00:54:59: Cheatcodechamp: Im going to ping Renz. Imods
 * 00:55:04: Cheatcodechamp: !mods
 * 00:55:17: RenzXVI: ?
 * 00:55:27: Cheatcodechamp: your early, I was going to ping you first, then you show up.
 * 00:55:31: Bluesonic1: I like it either way to be honest, I think that merging them is more practical though particularly if the user has a long name already or there are many tags added to the user
 * 00:56:00: Atvelonis: Here is the code for it: MediaWiki:Common.js/masthead.js
 * 00:56:35: RenzXVI: Chat mod is separate http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/User:G0LD3NF1RE
 * 00:57:03: Cheatcodechamp: We never merged those two positions
 * 00:58:07: Cheatcodechamp: Most of our patrollers have been MOTM, so it worked out merging them, in time we had the same thing for a lot of admin, I assume it saves space and that is why
 * 00:58:31: RenzXVI: I also like it merged.
 * 00:58:46: Atvelonis: Meh
 * 00:58:46: The Rim of the Sky: Could you experiment and add the patrollers additionally to the MOTM sections?
 * 00:58:49: Atvelonis: I like mine separate
 * 00:58:51: The Rim of the Sky: Not move, just add them
 * 00:58:59: Atvelonis: Weeeell
 * 00:59:04: The Rim of the Sky: I want to see if that would display them seperately
 * 00:59:06: Bluesonic1: Normally I'd be with Rim on this but because of the grey background for the bar and for the tag, I at least can barely see the boxes, hence why they look about the same to me either way, just that one's shorter
 * 00:59:13: Atvelonis: Wikia added this somewhat annoying feature where edits on that page have to approved by them
 * 00:59:14: The Rim of the Sky: I also see no use in merging them
 * 00:59:15: Atvelonis: Which takes a while
 * 00:59:23: The Rim of the Sky: Oh right
 * 00:59:26: Atvelonis: So we can't do an example
 * 00:59:31: The Rim of the Sky: Their whole anti-attack thing
 * 00:59:34: Cheatcodechamp: I like how we need permission to edit now
 * 00:59:42: The Crusader of Truth: If I vanish, my laptop died. Sorry `bout that.
 * 01:00:01: The Crusader of Truth: But yeah, looks beater merged if you ask me
 * 01:00:03: The Rim of the Sky: Only admins can edit that, so I don't see why you'd even like to have permission needed. Anyways, that's not exactly the issue here
 * 01:00:05: The Crusader of Truth: *better
 * 01:00:08: Bluesonic1: Wait there's been updates on the javascript pages?
 * 01:00:19: Cheatcodechamp: You are right, should we take this to vote?
 * 01:00:24: Bluesonic1: As far as I knew they were locked
 * 01:00:25: Atvelonis: Not yet wait
 * 01:00:31: Cheatcodechamp: Ok, no voting yet
 * 01:00:36: Atvelonis: I don't think it makes any sense for them to be connected
 * 01:00:53: Atvelonis: From a purely aesthetic stance... *maybe*, but that's preference
 * 01:01:17: The Crusader of Truth: Ill throw all my opinion in one spot. It looks better visually for me, however, it seems to make more sense when you look at it apart.
 * 01:01:23: Atvelonis: But doing "Administrator - MOTM - February 2015" makes less sense than "Administrator" "MOTM - February 2015"
 * 01:01:24: The Rim of the Sky: It might confuse some users that you'd have to be Patroller to be MOTM, or that becoming MOTM is a perk of being Patroller
 * 01:01:29: Atvelonis: Yes, exactly Rim
 * 01:01:32: Atvelonis: You read my mind
 * 01:01:38: The Rim of the Sky: ^Agree with Atvelonis and that other point as well
 * 01:01:39: Atvelonis: Users might correlate MOTM with a staff position
 * 01:01:52: RenzXVI: It's probably simpler to be separate, not like merging makes a big difference, separate makes it uniform.
 * 01:01:53: Atvelonis: It has nothing to do with being staff
 * 01:01:53: Bluesonic1: I hadn't considered that
 * 01:02:14: RenzXVI: And yeah, that too. I guess separate is better.
 * 01:02:18: The Crusader of Truth: So seems like we all agree on separate.
 * 01:02:25: The Rim of the Sky: Should we vote?
 * 01:02:26: The Crusader of Truth: o/
 * 01:02:31: RenzXVI: Merging is only goood for space and it's not really a big difference..
 * 01:02:32: Cheatcodechamp: But confusion dosnt mean we need to alter things, informing them would work just as well
 * 01:02:43: The Rim of the Sky: Also, were the (Support) and (Oppose) icons added?
 * 01:02:47: The Rim of the Sky: Damn
 * 01:02:48: Bluesonic1: No =(
 * 01:02:49: I am Noir: O/
 * 01:02:50: The Rim of the Sky: They weren't
 * 01:02:57: Cheatcodechamp: Its on our to do list
 * 01:03:00: The Rim of the Sky: We have to add those soon before we forget about them
 * 01:03:14: Cheatcodechamp: All in favor of spliting the headers?
 * 01:03:18: Bluesonic1: To be fair I did remind people last moot =P
 * 01:03:18: Atvelonis: aye
 * 01:03:19: Atvelonis: (y)
 * 01:03:25: The Rim of the Sky: (Y) for support, (N) for Oppose
 * 01:03:28: The Rim of the Sky: (Y) from me
 * 01:03:30: The Crusader of Truth: Gold with me, (y)
 * 01:03:41: I am Noir: (y)
 * 01:03:43: RenzXVI: Separate (y)
 * 01:03:44: Cheatcodechamp: Im saying no, (n)
 * 01:03:51: Bluesonic1: Ehh I'll stay neutral, just because I can see value in them being either way
 * 01:04:20: Atvelonis: Ok, so 4-1-1 so far
 * 01:04:31: The Rim of the Sky: Current count: 5 Support 1 Neutral, 1 Oppose
 * 01:04:43: Atvelonis: 5, duh
 * 01:04:45: Atvelonis: yeah
 * 01:05:00: The Rim of the Sky: I think everyone else is either a bot or AFK
 * 01:05:10: Cheatcodechamp: Ok, looks like its done, I will add it to our to do list
 * 01:05:12: Atvelonis: Bronkiin?
 * 01:05:34: Cheatcodechamp: Bro?
 * 01:06:17: Cheatcodechamp: Motion passed
 * 01:06:29: Atvelonis: 5-1-1
 * 01:06:33: RenzXVI: Sometimes I wish KINMUNE had a magic 8 ball feature so she can reply to questions. Like her randomized hug response.
 * 01:06:35: Cheatcodechamp: Ok, anything else Rim or should we proceed
 * 01:06:37: Bronkiin: Sorry guys, working on the thread!
 * 01:06:39: The Crusader of Truth: Err, can I bring up something (really) minor?
 * 01:06:43: Atvelonis: oh ok
 * 01:06:50: Atvelonis: @Fgh: yeah, after rim I guess?
 * 01:06:52: Bronkiin: But I was for the motion.
 * 01:06:58: Atvelonis: Ok, so 6-1-1
 * 01:07:00: The Crusader of Truth: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline, seems like we have enough sources xD
 * 01:07:06: Atvelonis: nooooooooo
 * 01:07:10: Atvelonis: not. enough. sources.
 * 01:07:21: The Rim of the Sky: Lots of info, all needs to be sourced
 * 01:07:32: Atvelonis: I've tried to compact it as much as I possibly could
 * 01:07:37: Atvelonis: Cannot get any more compact
 * 01:07:39: Atvelonis: Simply cannot
 * 01:07:44: The Crusader of Truth: So, literally, everything, then?
 * 01:07:59: The Crusader of Truth: That seems like reading all the sources would be a mess
 * 01:08:04: Cheatcodechamp: Yeah, in fact, our wiki should be sourcing more
 * 01:08:26: Atvelonis: Well, we should still add the authors to the sources
 * 01:08:29: Atvelonis: We always neglect to do that
 * 01:08:44: The Rim of the Sky: Authors?
 * 01:08:46: Atvelonis: Like "Brief History of the Empire — Balgruuf the Greater"
 * 01:08:48: Cheatcodechamp: Its not for reading, its to support what is said, otherwise we could have fannon or other un-true items
 * 01:08:49: Atvelonis: Obviously not that match
 * 01:08:56: Atvelonis: But that's the format
 * 01:09:06: Atvelonis: Technically that's how we're supposed to do it
 * 01:09:14: Atvelonis: But we've been really, really lazy about it
 * 01:09:20: Cheatcodechamp: For years
 * 01:09:20: Bronkiin: I've started the thread.
 * 01:09:20: The Rim of the Sky: I dunno
 * 01:09:23: Bronkiin: btw.
 * 01:09:25: The Rim of the Sky: Authors don't seem necessary
 * 01:09:33: The Rim of the Sky: When people click the source, the author is on the page
 * 01:09:34: The Crusader of Truth: Well, computer is dead. Brb, need to get charger
 * 01:09:44: The Rim of the Sky: It would just take up space on the references section
 * 01:09:49: Atvelonis: For Timeline we could skimp on it because that section is gigantic already
 * 01:10:01: Atvelonis: But for anything that isn't a 2 or 3-column, we should
 * 01:10:07: Atvelonis: Link Bronkiin?
 * 01:10:37: Cheatcodechamp: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:876846
 * 01:10:55: Bronkiin: Thanks! ;)
 * 01:11:01: The Crusader of Truth: Thank you for your time xD
 * 01:11:19: Atvelonis: haha very punny
 * 01:11:26: Bronkiin: Couldn't resist...!
 * 01:11:36: The Crusader of Truth: I admit, with the moot in go, you did do it very timely though.
 * 01:12:47: The Crusader of Truth: Anyhow, back to the subject I guess? Authors or no and why?
 * 01:13:43: Atvelonis: It gives the reader a basic idea on who wrote it
 * 01:13:51: Atvelonis: So they can more easily determine biases in it
 * 01:13:55: The Rim of the Sky: No, not necessary, take sup more space, and the info for who the author is can be accessed on the page linked.
 * 01:13:57: Atvelonis: However, it takes up some space
 * 01:14:11: Atvelonis: So... for articles with 2-or-3-column references, I say we don't need it
 * 01:14:17: Atvelonis: 2 maybe but ehhh
 * 01:14:25: The Rim of the Sky: We're already tight considering Wikia's recent Anorexia trend
 * 01:14:25: Atvelonis: But for all other articles I think it's good
 * 01:14:32: The Rim of the Sky: they made all the pages slimmer
 * 01:14:33: Atvelonis: Bah
 * 01:14:39: The Crusader of Truth: Say, why not close it like I did to my Usermarks here ?
 * 01:14:44: The Rim of the Sky: info already has barely any space to breath
 * 01:15:01: The Crusader of Truth: Although I still have it labeled wrong, sorry
 * 01:15:12: Atvelonis: The longest references I can think of are the PGEs
 * 01:15:25: Atvelonis: e.g. "Pocket Guide to the Empire, First Edition: Skyrim"
 * 01:15:45: The Crusader of Truth: With my idea we can just keep it closed up unless we need it, somewhat removing space out of the issue
 * 01:15:49: The Rim of the Sky: Compare: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Tamriel (Regular) http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Tamriel?oasisbreakpoints=0&oasistypography=0 (Former) and http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Tamriel?useskin=monobook (Monobook)
 * 01:15:50: Atvelonis: Doing "Pocket Guide to the Empire, First Edition: Skyrim" — Unknown gives the reader some quick insight on it
 * 01:16:06: The Rim of the Sky: References have less and less space, let's not take it for granted
 * 01:16:20: Cheatcodechamp: Cant the refs be altered like a link so they would read diffrently?
 * 01:16:28: Atvelonis: Hmm?
 * 01:16:30: Cheatcodechamp: Pocket Guide to the Empire, First Edition: Skyrim|PGTTE: Skyrim
 * 01:16:35: Atvelonis: Oh, no
 * 01:16:40: Atvelonis: They *can*
 * 01:16:44: Atvelonis: But it's not a good idea
 * 01:16:51: Atvelonis: Most people have no idea what that means
 * 01:16:52: Cheatcodechamp: Ok then, I figured that would help some, never mind
 * 01:17:20: Atvelonis: Wikipedia has absolutely massive reference sections
 * 01:17:32: Atvelonis: Fully written-out references
 * 01:17:38: Atvelonis: We're just supposed to do the author
 * 01:17:50: Atvelonis: Doing a full MLA citation or whatever is kind of silly on TESWiki
 * 01:18:07: The Crusader of Truth: Sounds good to me, I guess. Although we still have to take the time to list all the authors
 * 01:18:26: Atvelonis: That's not a problem, I can do that
 * 01:18:53: Bronkiin: How important are authors on a reference anyway?
 * 01:19:31: Atvelonis: If you're just learning, sort of. If you're writing an article, very, very important.
 * 01:19:40: Atvelonis: They're just as important as the authors of a text in real life.
 * 01:19:41: The Rim of the Sky: Wikipedia has more space
 * 01:19:46: Atvelonis: Not much, Rim
 * 01:19:48: The Rim of the Sky: Look at the links I sent
 * 01:19:52: The Rim of the Sky: Monobook is much wider
 * 01:19:58: Atvelonis: And we're only doing it for 1-column articles
 * 01:20:00: Atvelonis: Probably
 * 01:20:01: The Rim of the Sky: That's how much space Wikipedia has
 * 01:20:06: Atvelonis: So space is not a problem at all
 * 01:20:28: Atvelonis: References will virtually never take up more than 1 line on 1-column
 * 01:20:39: RenzXVI: I don't like what monobook looks like
 * 01:20:54: The Crusader of Truth: Aye, I'd help if we did sent this idea through
 * 01:21:02: Atvelonis: Look at something like this, the references take up very little space
 * 01:21:13: Atvelonis: Adding the author is helpful to readers and editors and does not take up too much space
 * 01:21:20: Atvelonis: Unless their name is super, super long, it's fine
 * 01:22:29: The Crusader of Truth: About http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Mabjaarn_Flame-Hair long?
 * 01:22:33: Bronkiin: If a reader wanted the author I can't help but feel they'd click on the link.
 * 01:22:34: The Rim of the Sky: It wouldn't make sense to do it on something with only a few sources and not on something with many sources
 * 01:22:35: The Crusader of Truth: Or longer?
 * 01:22:40: The Rim of the Sky: If it can be excluded from large lists
 * 01:22:51: The Rim of the Sky: Why would it be required on shorter ones?
 * 01:23:35: Cheatcodechamp: We have the space? That would be the main reason I think
 * 01:23:36: Atvelonis: Gah, why do we provide any context for anything at all?
 * 01:23:54: Atvelonis: So that readers don't have to waste time searching for information that should be easy to get
 * 01:24:24: Atvelonis: Hell we could write articles like "Vivec did blah and blah and blah" without explaining who Vivec was or what these events were
 * 01:24:36: Atvelonis: Sure, if the reader REALLY wanted to know what was going on they could click the link
 * 01:24:38: Bluesonic1: Can someone ping me when the topic is changed? I'm neutral to all this, and just working on some other stuff in the background :)
 * 01:24:53: The Rim of the Sky: The sources are already there
 * 01:25:17: The Rim of the Sky: Don't know how the author would help, other than the author bias point
 * 01:25:32: Atvelonis: That is a HUGE factor in determining the validity of a source, Rim
 * 01:25:40: The Rim of the Sky: People often point out how Imperials write more biased things than other things
 * 01:25:50: The Rim of the Sky: But what about anonymity?
 * 01:25:52: Atvelonis: Rolff Stone-Fist could write a book about how Elves are corrupting Skyrim
 * 01:25:57: The Rim of the Sky: Half the books in TES are anonymous
 * 01:25:59: Atvelonis: Doesn't mean we should blindly trust it
 * 01:26:03: Atvelonis: — Anonymous
 * 01:26:06: Atvelonis: or — Unknown
 * 01:26:39: Bronkiin: You can't tell if an author is biased by their name most of the time.
 * 01:26:45: The Rim of the Sky: ^
 * 01:26:50: Atvelonis: No, but it saves you a lot of time
 * 01:26:50: Bronkiin: There simply isn't enough info about most authors.
 * 01:26:59: Atvelonis: Click one link to click another link is a waste of time
 * 01:27:06: Bronkiin: The way to tell is by reading the actual book.
 * 01:27:13: The Rim of the Sky: Something more informative is race, but most author's don't have their race listed either
 * 01:27:45: Bronkiin: I'm neutral. Because while I don't think it's necessary, I can't see it doing any harm.
 * 01:27:46: Atvelonis: Would you rather have to click "Brief History of the Empire" to get to Balgruuf the Greater or just be able to go right to Balgruuf the Greater?
 * 01:27:49: Atvelonis: Obviously the latter
 * 01:28:04: Atvelonis: (Obviously again Balgruuf didn't write that, just came to mind)
 * 01:28:19: The Crusader of Truth: Easy nav > More People > Higher Score > Better Wiki
 * 01:28:42: The Crusader of Truth: Unless I'm insane, we want a better wiki
 * 01:29:03: Bronkiin: Adding potentially unneccessary info doesn't make a better wiki.
 * 01:29:07: The Rim of the Sky: ^
 * 01:29:26: The Rim of the Sky: And even if we do link the author
 * 01:29:35: Atvelonis: It's not unnecessary at all, it makes it easier for editors and readers to find out more about what they're reading
 * 01:29:41: The Rim of the Sky: People would still have to know who the author is to detect a bias
 * 01:29:50: PrinceCreeper: guys
 * 01:29:53: The Crusader of Truth: o/
 * 01:30:02: PrinceCreeper: I found out the real reason as to why all of the Dwemer disappeared
 * 01:30:11: The Rim of the Sky: Sort of busy right now
 * 01:30:14: The Rim of the Sky: In a moot
 * 01:30:16: PrinceCreeper: Yagrum Bagarn ate them
 * 01:30:18: The Crusader of Truth: Errr, not sure about right now Prince sorry
 * 01:30:25: PrinceCreeper: That's also why he's so fat
 * 01:30:32: PrinceCreeper: It's not because of Corprus
 * 01:30:38: PrinceCreeper: It's because he ate them all
 * 01:30:38: The Crusader of Truth: (facepalm)
 * 01:30:45: RenzXVI: We are having a weekly meeting. Please discuss it later.
 * 01:30:49: The Rim of the Sky: ...
 * 01:30:50: PrinceCreeper: Okay.
 * 01:30:52: PrinceCreeper: It's a joke.
 * 01:30:55: PrinceCreeper: Just saying.
 * 01:30:59: Bluesonic1: Hi PrinceCreeper! We're in the middle of a moot at the moment =)
 * 01:30:59: Cheatcodechamp: Back to topic? I think we should vote before this gets on any longer
 * 01:31:03: Atvelonis: Even if we disregard the usefulness of getting to authors' articles, having more detailed references is a good idea
 * 01:31:19: The Rim of the Sky: We should probably get KINMUNE to inform people a moot is going on, if that's possible for her coding
 * 01:31:29: PrinceCreeper: By the way guys, relating to articles, I think I found a grammatical error in the Stendarr's Hammer article.
 * 01:31:32: Atvelonis: Wikipedia for example does extremely detailed references
 * 01:31:32: The Crusader of Truth: I agree with CCC, we vote.
 * 01:31:41: Atvelonis: @Creeper: you can fix it
 * 01:31:45: PrinceCreeper: Okay.
 * 01:31:45: Atvelonis: It's a wiki
 * 01:31:49: The Crusader of Truth: I think one really small question of mine got too large xD
 * 01:31:50: Atvelonis: You're free to edit
 * 01:32:04: Atvelonis: @Rim: that's a good idea
 * 01:32:05: Cheatcodechamp: test
 * 01:32:08: Atvelonis: We should talk to flight about that
 * 01:32:12: Atvelonis: I'm reading you CCC
 * 01:32:18: Bronkiin: Vote on? More detailed references or Authors in references?
 * 01:32:18: The Crusader of Truth: @Creeper, I'll grab it for you
 * 01:32:42: PrinceCreeper: I just fixed it.
 * 01:32:52: Atvelonis: Good to hear Creeper
 * 01:33:07: Atvelonis: So, vote to continue adding authors to references
 * 01:33:10: Atvelonis: (y) or (n)
 * 01:33:11: PrinceCreeper: "and will likely to break in a few hits"
 * 01:33:21: The Crusader of Truth: (y)
 * 01:33:25: Atvelonis: (y)
 * 01:33:27: Bronkiin: (n)
 * 01:33:30: RenzXVI: (y)
 * 01:33:39: Bluesonic1: Neutral- I see benefits to both sides again
 * 01:33:39: The Rim of the Sky: (N)
 * 01:34:00: The Crusader of Truth: I count 3-1-2
 * 01:34:02: The Crusader of Truth: o/
 * 01:34:39: RenzXVI: Might not be necessary for all pages, but additional info is still additional info.
 * 01:35:01: Cheatcodechamp: Im neutral, we should keep it as easy as possible, but space and usefulness are factors as well.
 * 01:35:15: Cheatcodechamp: Also, I have to refresh, hold on
 * 01:35:15: The Rim of the Sky: 3-2-2
 * 01:35:16: Atvelonis: 3-2-2
 * 01:35:18: Atvelonis: Yeah
 * 01:35:27: Cheatcodechamp: test
 * 01:35:41: Cheatcodechamp: Ok, so how do we want to proceed?
 * 01:35:49: Bluesonic1: Maybe take it to a CT?
 * 01:35:55: Cheatcodechamp: Its pretty close, we may need to CT it
 * 01:36:15: Cheatcodechamp: Or revote until we all agree :/
 * 01:36:22: RenzXVI: XD
 * 01:36:23: The Crusader of Truth: I can vote (y) on those ideas too.
 * 01:36:25: RenzXVI: CT.
 * 01:36:29: The Rim of the Sky: I say CT
 * 01:36:31: Atvelonis: I guess
 * 01:36:36: Cheatcodechamp: All in favor of moving this to a CT?
 * 01:36:39: The Crusader of Truth: Whatever you guys think is good.
 * 01:36:41: Atvelonis: (y)
 * 01:36:42: Bluesonic1: (y)
 * 01:36:42: RenzXVI: (CT)
 * 01:36:45: RenzXVI: (y)
 * 01:36:49: RenzXVI: Oops.
 * 01:37:06: The Crusader of Truth: (y) I am the youthful one here in a way, you know beter
 * 01:37:08: The Rim of the Sky: (Y)
 * 01:37:17: Bronkiin: (y)
 * 01:37:29: Cheatcodechamp: (y)
 * 01:37:37: Dragon Heaven: (n)
 * 01:37:43: Atvelonis: 7-0-1 to move the moot topic to a CT
 * 01:37:48: Cheatcodechamp: 7-1
 * 01:38:10: The Rim of the Sky: That settles it then
 * 01:38:12: Cheatcodechamp: Ok, lets handle the quotes while I write this out
 * 01:38:15: The Rim of the Sky: Next topic anyone?
 * 01:38:17: RenzXVI: If the topic is over, I have a minor question.
 * 01:38:21: Cheatcodechamp: Shoot
 * 01:38:25: The Rim of the Sky: Go ahead Renz
 * 01:38:42: The Crusader of Truth: I recall the last minor question 0.0
 * 01:38:49: RenzXVI: Does Special:Contributions/DwemerBot count as a bot for Atvelonis template? He edited last april?
 * 01:38:49: Bluesonic1: xD
 * 01:38:57: Atvelonis: Nope
 * 01:39:03: RenzXVI: Oh. Ok.
 * 01:39:04: Atvelonis: Doesn't count as far as I'm concerned
 * 01:39:21: Cheatcodechamp: Ok, I was given three quotes, pick one you like the best
 * 01:39:25: Cheatcodechamp: "Korst Wind-Eye has told me more about the Bloodmoon Prophecy, and the signs that are foretold within. The fire from the lake of ice, the tide of dead horkers. Now the moon itself has turned blood red. He tells me that all that remains is the Hunter's Game." ―Nerevarine (Source: Hircine's Hunt)
 * 01:39:33: Cheatcodechamp: "Nords are so serious about beards. So many beards. M'aiq thinks they wish they had glorious manes like Khajiit." - M'aiq the Lair
 * 01:39:42: Cheatcodechamp: "Too much magic can be dangerous. M'aiq once had two spells and burned his sweetroll." - M'aiq the Lair
 * 01:39:48: The Rim of the Sky: Bloodmoon one is in relation to the recent bloodmoon
 * 01:39:58: Atvelonis: Bronkiin and I have one too
 * 01:40:03: RenzXVI: Beards by M'aiq.
 * 01:40:07: Atvelonis: "Humility is a noble thing, but you must also remain strong and self-assured. A true champion is also history's pawn, and history is a cruel and unfeeling master." —Ayrenn
 * 01:40:11: Bronkiin: Link it or write it out?
 * 01:40:16: The Crusader of Truth: I go for the First M'riq the Lier
 * 01:40:24: Atvelonis: So consider all 4
 * 01:40:30: The Crusader of Truth: (CCC, you did say Lair btw xD )
 * 01:40:45: Atvelonis: I like Ayrenn's the most
 * 01:40:51: Bronkiin: Agreed.
 * 01:40:55: Bronkiin: And its ESO.
 * 01:41:02: RenzXVI: I like M'aiq's beard.
 * 01:41:08: Cheatcodechamp: Should we break this into two 2v2 votes?
 * 01:41:11: RenzXVI: The quote, I mean.
 * 01:41:11: The Crusader of Truth: I'm with Renz
 * 01:41:36: RenzXVI: Bluesonic1
 * 01:41:42: RenzXVI: We forgot to ping her.
 * 01:41:50: Cheatcodechamp: ok, so Rim votes for the bloodmoon, we have two for the beard quote, and two for the ESO one
 * 01:41:52: Bluesonic1: It's ok I'm here
 * 01:42:06: Bluesonic1: I'll vote for the beard quote as well xD
 * 01:42:14: Bluesonic1: It always cracks me up
 * 01:42:21: Atvelonis: 1-3-2 respectively
 * 01:42:31: Bronkiin: I feel we should go for a quote people are less familiar with...
 * 01:42:39: Cheatcodechamp: I like the ESO one.
 * 01:42:52: Atvelonis: 1-3-3 respectively
 * 01:42:54: Cheatcodechamp: We have yet to have a ESO quote, so I think its time
 * 01:43:12: The Crusader of Truth: I personally don't quite like it.
 * 01:43:26: The Rim of the Sky: I switch my vote to Ayrenn
 * 01:43:37: Atvelonis: Ok, 3-4 between those two
 * 01:43:42: Bronkiin: 3-4
 * 01:43:46: Atvelonis: Needs a 2/3 majority technically to pass
 * 01:44:00: Bronkiin: What's two thirds of seven?!
 * 01:44:01: Cheatcodechamp: Ok, is there any more votes on this?
 * 01:44:20: The Crusader of Truth: I am Noir has yet to vote, right?
 * 01:44:21: RenzXVI: Don't dare say CT again. XD
 * 01:44:37: The Crusader of Truth: I am Noir and PrinceCreeper.
 * 01:44:51: Bronkiin: I am Noir's away.
 * 01:44:51: The Crusader of Truth: And CiviclyYours, now. o/
 * 01:44:54: Atvelonis: It needs 5 votes to become Quote of the week if we have 7
 * 01:44:57: Atvelonis: hey civ
 * 01:45:02: CiviclyYours: Moot still on?
 * 01:45:02: Cheatcodechamp: If thats it, then the ESO quote wins
 * 01:45:05: The Rim of the Sky: yes
 * 01:45:11: CiviclyYours: Mk. ;3 Ty
 * 01:45:20: Atvelonis: I guess it's close enough, just a quote
 * 01:45:37: Cheatcodechamp: We did not on that policy, should we enforce it in this case?
 * 01:45:40: The Crusader of Truth: I'm fine with an ESO quote, just that one doesn't seem good to me. Oh well, I'll cry later,
 * 01:45:49: The Rim of the Sky: Not in this case
 * 01:45:51: Atvelonis: Wait, so 4-5 now?
 * 01:45:57: Atvelonis: It goes for anything, doesn't it?
 * 01:46:01: Atvelonis: Moot decisions and CTs
 * 01:46:02: Cheatcodechamp: I am not a fan of letting standards slide
 * 01:46:03: Atvelonis: iirc
 * 01:46:04: The Rim of the Sky: We need to pick a quote, and we can't spend all day here
 * 01:46:17: Cheatcodechamp: Ok, then are we all able to deal with this result?
 * 01:46:18: The Rim of the Sky: The results of the Quebec referendum were like 49-51
 * 01:46:18: Bluesonic1: Yeah I agree with Crusader- I'd like an ESO quote, it's just I don't agree with that particular one
 * 01:46:29: Atvelonis: 3-5 actually
 * 01:46:38: Atvelonis: 62.5%
 * 01:46:40: Bluesonic1: But yeah if it's majority vote then that's fine
 * 01:46:41: The Rim of the Sky: Should we all just re-vote?
 * 01:46:41: Atvelonis: close enough tbh
 * 01:46:47: Atvelonis: PASSED
 * 01:46:50: The Rim of the Sky: k
 * 01:46:54: The Rim of the Sky: Featured Image now?
 * 01:46:55: Cheatcodechamp: File:TESV Ill Met By Moonlight.png
 * 01:46:58: The Crusader of Truth: Aye
 * 01:47:06: Cheatcodechamp: [[File:Alduin over Helgen.png]]
 * 01:47:06: The Crusader of Truth: "Let's just get this over with"
 * 01:47:13: The Rim of the Sky: Link: [[File:TESV Ill Met By Moonlight.png]]
 * 01:47:18: Cheatcodechamp: Thanks
 * 01:47:28: Bluesonic1: Ooh definitely the moonlight one
 * 01:47:30: Cheatcodechamp: Ok, Alduin, or moonlight
 * 01:47:35: Cheatcodechamp: I also say moonlight
 * 01:48:07: The Crusader of Truth: I vote Alduin. Dead again, I'm the one who sugested it xD
 * 01:48:11: The Rim of the Sky: Moonlight
 * 01:48:19: Bluesonic1: 5-1
 * 01:48:20: Cheatcodechamp: Sorry Crusader
 * 01:48:39: The Crusader of Truth: Gah, I'll be fine
 * 01:48:44: Cheatcodechamp: Atve?
 * 01:48:59: RenzXVI: :p
 * 01:49:00: The Crusader of Truth: I'll just go to my sandbox and spam the crying emote later in sorrow or something xD
 * 01:49:12: Cheatcodechamp: Ok, then Moonlight it is
 * 01:49:17: Atvelonis: Moonlight
 * 01:49:32: Cheatcodechamp: Any small matters left?
 * 01:49:33: Atvelonis: (chat was bugging, dunno if you counted my vote blue)
 * 01:49:35: RenzXVI: Moonlight is epic.
 * 01:49:55: Bluesonic1: No I didn't, sorry!
 * 01:50:03: Bronkiin: 6-1
 * 01:50:05: KINMUNE: Hello there, Akaarik!
 * 01:50:07: The Crusader of Truth: o/
 * 01:50:20: Atvelonis: hey akaarik
 * 01:50:23: The Crusader of Truth: Really Renz? xD
 * 01:50:26: Cheatcodechamp: Ok, any other matters or shall we call this moot to an end
 * 01:50:29: Bluesonic1: What was that?
 * 01:50:34: I am Noir: Akaa!
 * 01:50:35: RenzXVI: Sorry. XD
 * 01:50:38: I am Noir: /me hugs Akaa
 * 01:50:40: Akaarik: What the? Numidiumbot? Lol
 * 01:50:48: Atvelonis: dude flipping a table
 * 01:50:54: Atvelonis: we got a bot
 * 01:50:56: Akaarik: This is a Rap I plan on making http://www.song-lyrics-generator.org.uk/52mlv8/zvaswase.html
 * 01:50:57: Atvelonis: it does bot stuff
 * 01:50:58: Cheatcodechamp: All in favor of ending the moot anybody?
 * 01:50:59: Bluesonic1: No, Numidiumbot suddenly commenting lol
 * 01:51:05: Atvelonis: Yes
 * 01:51:07: Atvelonis: (y)
 * 01:51:11: Bluesonic1: I have nothing else to add to the moot, so (y)
 * 01:51:13: Atvelonis: Unless anyone else has anything
 * 01:51:24: The Crusader of Truth: "I vote we remove all the bots, they are creepy"
 * 01:51:25: Cheatcodechamp: Im finished, (y)
 * 01:51:30: Bronkiin: (y) It's almost 3am here...!
 * 01:51:31: RenzXVI: No.
 * 01:51:37: Cheatcodechamp: Vote denied (N)
 * 01:51:48: Akaarik: I came at the end of the Moot? Yay I came when people are on! :D
 * 01:51:54: The Crusader of Truth: Just kidding, I vote we shush and end this (y)
 * 01:51:54: RenzXVI: I want KINMUNE to have a magic 8 ball feature. I sometimes cant decide on things and want a magic 8 bot.
 * 01:51:58: Cheatcodechamp: Then lets Bro sleep, this moot is adjured