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SajuukKhar wrote: Not really.

Also during the Late Merethic Era the legendary immortal hero, warrior, sorceror [sic], and king variously known as Pelinal Whitestrake, Harrald Hairy Breeks, Ysmir, Hans the Fox, etc., ~ Before the Ages of Man

"“The Three Thieves of Morrowind could tell you where they were. So could the High King of Alinor, who was the one who broke it in the first place. There are others on this earth that could, too: Ysmir, Pelinal, Arnand the Fox or should I say Arctus?" ~ Where Were You When the Dragon Broke

Pelinal = Ysmir = Hans the Fox = Arnand the Fox = Zurin Arctus

"He saw the twin head of a ruling king who had no equivalent. And eight imperfections rubbed into precious stones, set into a crown that looked like shackles, which he understood to be the twin crowns of the two-headed king." ~ Sermon 19

Stained glass window of Akatosh in Oblivion, depecting him with two heads

"You guessed it. The Arena is a collection of pseudo-imagos, all the way down to the core. Lorkhan is Akatosh, the Dragon God of Time is the Missing God of Change." ~ Kirkbride

Statue of Talos in Skyrim depicting him standing over a snake

Statue of Vivec in Morrowindm, depicting him pearing a scarab.

Ysmir (Dragon of the North): The Nordic aspect of Talos. ~ Varities of Faith

Lorkhan = Akatosh, the stained glass window in Oblivion is representative of their dual nature. Tiber Septim is called the two-headed king by vivec due to his dual avatar status, being an avatar of both Lorkhan and Akatosh. The statue of Talos in Skyrim is representative of Talos taking Lorkhan's place in the Nine Divines, a pose mirrored by Vivec, due to his taking of Lorkhan's power via the heart. The snake being the ancient Nrodic animal Pantheon's animal totem for Shor, and the scarab being the Dunmer and Dwemer's symbol for Lorkhan.

"Finally Trinimac, Auriel's greatest knight, knocked Lorkhan down in front of his army and reached in with more than hands to take his Heart." ~ The Monomyth

"With his last breath, the Underking's Heart roars a hole through the Battlemage's chest." ~ The Arcturian Heresy

Ysmir Wulfharth blasting a hole through Arctus's chest was a symbolic transferance of power, making Zurin like Lokrhan, heartless with a big ass hole in his chest, which is why Zurin would later rise and become The Underking like Wulfharth, a known Shezzarine, was.

And to round it all out, a word from Michael Kirkbride himself.

http://www.imperial-library.info/content/forum-archives-michael-kirkbride

Lorkhan and his avatars:

1. Wulfharth L 2. Hjalti O 3. Ysmir R 4. Talos K 5. Arctus H 6. Septim A N

Pelinal = Ysmir = Arnand the Fox = Hans the Fox = Tiber Septim = Ysmir Wulfharth = Zurin Arctus = Talos = Avatars of Lorkhan. it's a Hobwash

1. Wulfharth L 2. Hjalti O  3. Ysmir R  4. Talos K  5. Arctus H  6. Septim A  N

what does it even supposed to means.....?

so you're trying to tell me that there is actually 3 Shors living in the same time..................

and Underkings story's not yet have been officialy stated so he could be either Zurin or Wulfharth, this Underking problem, still remains a mistery

and Mr.kirkbird is a former Lore Master & game Designer ,he's definitely not the current Leading TES Loremaster.......right, because the current one is Mr.Schick.but still i respected him in the same way as i respected all other peoples who makes TES franchise born.