Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-11345660-20130908095939/@comment-3573184-20130911085017

I have a high respect for your theory, as it is quite far off from mainstream belief. Except if you go on the Imperial library, or even Bethesda's official lore forums, they will tell you the same thing I did.

There is a problem with your theory here. At the end of the Isles, you successfully broke Jyggalags curse and freed him. If another is to be created, and this has happened many times as you say, how many freaking Jyggalag's are out their right now? As for this, and everything else you first paragraph, what happens to Jyggalag is that he fused back into Sheogorath after the champion becomes Sheogorath. At the end of Shivering Isles, the champion didn't automatically turn into Sheo, it takes time, and in that time Jyggy is free, but when the mantling process is complete, and the champion fully becomes Sheo, Jyggy is re-fused back into Sheo. The whole point of the SI questline was that you DID NOT free Jyggy, you only furthered the cycle.

But Akatosh and Lorkhan as the same person? When the heck did this happen? In response to your entire second paragraph. Lorkhan has been Akatosh since Morrowind. It was later furthered in Oblivion, and furthered more in Skyrim. As for why Triminac killed Lorkhanm, because Triminac is Tsun, Lorkhan's bodyguard who killed his master at the request of Lorkhan so that the mortal realm could exist without the direct presence of the gods.

Also, Lorkhan can do stuff while being dead, as all the gods are dead, and have been since the creation of the mortal realm, and still manage to do things.

Finally, the magical beings of Mythic Aurbis told the ultimate story -- that of their own death. For some this was an artistic transfiguration into the concrete, non-magical substance of the world. For others, this was a war in which all were slain, their bodies becoming the substance of the world. For yet others, this was a romantic marriage and parenthood, with the parent spirits naturally having to die and give way to the succeeding mortal races. ~ The Monomyth

Again, it is explained by Jyggalag himself, Daedric Prince of Order, Deduction, and LOGIC, he was cursed, and he transformed into what he hated most, Sheogorath. This created by Lorkhan nonsense is what it is, nonsense. No one has said Jyggy was created by Lorkhan, only that he was created by a fragment of Lorkhan. Also since Lorkhan is Akatosh, Jyggy was created by Akatosh's death.

Uh no, I understand the origins perfectly. It is said that Anu and Padomay, and being an apparent Lore Fanatic, I am sure you have heard of them, clashed and the blood they spilt became the Aedra and Daedra, the Daedra from Padomay's blood, and the Aedra from the mizture of Anu and Padomay's blood.

Apparently you dont know. The "daedra are made from Padomy's blood only whereas the Aedra are made from both" is pure fiction. unsupported by any lore. All Aedra and Daedra, even the spirits who would become the Mange-Ge, were created from the interplay of Anu and Padomay. What makes the Daedra different from the Aedra is that they did not take place in creation, not thier bloodlines.

"When Akatosh forms, Time begins, and it becomes easier for some spirits to realize themselves as beings with a past and a future. The strongest of the recognizable spirits crystallize: Mephala, Arkay, Y'ffre, Magnus, Rupgta, etc., etc. Others remain as concepts, ideas, or emotions. One of the strongest of these, a barely formed urge that the others call Lorkhan, details a plan to create Mundus, the Mortal Plane." ~  The Monomyth

"Aedra" is usually translated as "ancestor," which is as close as Cyrodilic can come to this Elven concept. "Daedra" means, roughly, "not our ancestors." ~ Aedra and the Daedra

You seem to have hit a snag in your "Balancing equation" my friend. Not really.

The reason why Jyggylayg became Sheo is because Sheo was his polar opposite, the thing he hated most, just as Lorkhan(change) is Akatosh(stasis) polar opposite. Just as the death of stasis creates change, and the death of change creates stasis, so to did the death of Jyggy create Sheo.

The reason he could become Sheo is because Jyggy and Sheo are the creations of a fragment of Aka who is Lorkhan, polar opposites who are the same thing.

And besides, the Aedra didn't kill Lorkhan because he was growing powerful, in fact he is the only one that ended up dead. Blatantly untrue, as quoted before

Finally, the magical beings of Mythic Aurbis told the ultimate story -- that of their own death. For some this was an artistic transfiguration into the concrete, non-magical substance of the world. For others, this was a war in which all were slain, their bodies becoming the substance of the world. For yet others, this was a romantic marriage and parenthood, with the parent spirits naturally having to die and give way to the succeeding mortal races. ~ The Monomyth

All the aedra died at the dawn of Mundus.

So by your logic: Aedra killed Lorkhan because he draine their powers, Daedra curse Jyggalag to become Sheo who was also apparently existing at the time of Jyggalag as apparently Akatosh and Lorkhan are the same person, even though Akatosh is a being of stasis while Lorkhan represented change, but apparntly managed to create two beings that directly contradict what they are all about, thus contradicting that argument as well because it makes no goddang sense, and Jyggalag became Sheo, a being of stasis cursed with bearing the burden of change. That's not my logic at all. the process is

-Akatosh who is Lorkhan dies.

-A piece of them gets throws off.

-This piece becomes Jyggylag(the Akatosh/stasis ascpet of the piece). -Jyggylag grows in power until the other daedra fear him.

-The other daedra curse him to become Sheogorath(the Lorkhan/chaos aspect of the piece)

Madman97 wrote: Sorry kiddo, but the argument that Lorkhan is Akatosh yeilds absolutly no proof of it being true but simple allegories and symbols. I could wear the Superman crest on my shirt in the day. Doesn't mean I am Superman. Beyond Kirkbride, the guy who wrote Morrowind, The 36 Lessons of Vivec, Mankar Camoran's Commentaries On the Mysterium Xarxes, The Remanada, most of The Pocket Guide to The Empire, The Knights of the Nine DLC, The Song of Pelinal, and The White Gold Concordant, amongst other things, saying its true... because that guy clearly doesn't know what he is talking about.