Board Thread:Consensus Track/@comment-9062114-20151024212230/@comment-26017205-20151031201323

I also find it unlikely that all of this would happen at 3am GMT, especially as this user couldn't make the Moots when they were at midnight because that was too late.


 * If I wanted to operate a legit looking sock, I would SPECIFICALLY post/chat at times that my original didn't/couldn't. Proves nothing, man.

''I also find it unlikely, while possible, that Saj has arranged a correspondence with himself on that Users talkpage. One which is full of conversations with other users, further validifying the independence of the account.''


 * It is no shock to me that people create long term socks with a history, and not one use burners. That's not a unique thing.

''Wulf, you correctly point out that many of us have spoken with him on Steam. If he still corresponds with people on the Wiki, how surreal to go on to Chat and start asking about himself?''


 * Not surreal if you are operating a sock and asking an admin. I bet there are screenshots of the PM with the admin.

''Wulf, you've been talking in terms of probability, "how likely is it, given the circumstances that those IPs were coincidence?" Well here I respond in terms of probability, too. ''


 * My probability argument is an astronomical figure that basically would never happen. Your probability example is absolutely within the realm of possibility. That's the difference.

frankly the IPs do not prove anywhere near enough to justify a ban from all editing, including his right to defend himself, for an entire year.


 * How does one justify a sockpuppet?

From the evidence we have, some kind of ban does need to remain in place, but in the interest of integrity we must consider lowering it.


 * I think Sajuuk lost all integrity when he used his sock to get around his ban.