Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-11388043-20130711070950/@comment-46.245.144.82-20131105100141

Somebody Stole My Sweetroll wrote: Miraak, I think, was already Dragonborn when he made his deal with Herma-Mora. What he gained from that deal was a different kind of power.

Although many people on this forum are certain that 'Dragonborn Emperors' (ie, Septims) means something different from 'regular' Dragonborn, I'm not convinced. The main argument I've seen to support this seems to be that the Septim emperors couldn't shout.

But as there are no Greybeards or Dragon Walls in Cyrodiil, and no dragon souls to absorb, logically the Septims could never have learned to shout, whether or not they had the inborn potential. So the fact that they didn't do it, proves nothing. In Oblivion, if you try to wear the Amulet of Kings you are told that only the Dragonborn can wear it. It says nothing about royal blood or the Septim family name - the only (stated) reqirement is being Dragonborn.

As to Martin "giving Akatosh a boost", what? From what we know of Martin, yes, he knew a lot about Conjuration. But he certainly didn't have enough power to be the deciding factor in a battle between gods.

I think Alduin will be back, and probably is supposed to come back. My opinion (with no basis in TES lore) is that he had to be defeated in Skyrim not because he wanted to destroy the world, but because he was trying to do it at the wrong time. If you look at many real-world religions, a common element in many is that, at the designated End of Time, the 'bad guys' are allowed to destroy the world. true points but  they still have  some  problems

like you said miraak may have been dragonborn before serving as a dragonpriest. but why would the dragons accept that to take some one who is the only one that can permanantly kill a dragon. Woulden it be smarter to just kill him. and befroe you say anything YES paarturnax trusted you but only because a learrend the way of the voice and medetaide. odaving only served you because of respect and fear. later he did learne the way of the voice but because paarturnaxx became the new dragon boss.

the spetimes do have the dragonblood BUT they dont have the soule of a dragon thats why they colden shout like miraak. evan miraak says that alessia was a waek dragonborn and only had the blood. and what i meant wiht "the boost" was that aedra are really really weak at the momeent for giving up so much power to create nirn and martin gave up his power and the amulett of kings power to make akatosh possible to "kill" dagon

-thatdudewiththegun ( MUST HURRY TO CLASS)