Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-17045460-20130609055613/@comment-23.122.201.219-20140126020630

AngryEnclaveSoldier wrote: 23.122.201.219 wrote: Okay, I'm scrolling through this and I see two facts reappearing over and over again. That Skyrim is 200 years after Oblivion and that Cicero is an Imperial and the Adoring Fan was a Bosmer. And honestly, what actual value do those facts have? Remember, Tamriel is a FANTASY world. And if there is one recurring theme throughout TES, it's that anything is possible. Can dragons come back to life? Sure, why not. Can a god of Destruction tear through the veil between dimensions and conjure himself as a giant devil creature? Of course. Can the god of Life also conjure himself on the mortal plane in the form of a DRAGON to combat this devil? Yes, it's happened before. Nirn is not Earth. So why can't Cicero be the Adoring Fan? It'snot all that far fetched, if you think about it. Because Cicero is a goddamn Imperial and not a Bosmer. It's almost impossible for a person in the TES Universe to change the race. The only time where this happened was when Boethiah ate Trinimac and caused his followers to turn into Orsimer, and when Azura cursed the Chimer and turned them into Dunmer.

It's way too easy to say "Duh, it's a FANTASY world, everything is possibru!!!" There is no evidence in Lore that suggest that he is the Adoring Fan.

Also:

27th of Rain's Hand 

''4E 187 Completed the Arena contract. I ultimately decided to pose as a starstruck fan, and immediately got into the Grand Champion's good graces. While escorting the arrogant fool through the Great Forest, I slashed his throat and left the corpse for the bears. ''

We saw the Adoring Fan in 3E 433, and Bosmer usually only live up to 150 years. Chances are also high that he was killed while he was following the CoC.

These facts have tons of vaule. You make a valid point, but if we are basing the entire disscusion off of the fact that there is nothing in TES Lore that suggests so, you can also say that there is nothing in Lore that directly says he isn't. And just as Azura punished the Chimer, perhaps someone punished Cicero. Sheogorath, for example. And it's all just speculation. That's why we partake in these disscusions, right? Because it's fun to speculate? And to be fair, there is a lot of validity in the fact that Nirn is Nirn and Earth is Earth. It is a fantasy world. And just because something is "way too easy" to say, doesn't automatically dismiss it as a fact. Say the Adoring Fan's lifespan is 150 years. Maybe add on Cicero's lifespan, also about 50 years as of Skyrim?