Board Thread:Community Announcements and Events/@comment-4544033-20150322005151/@comment-1251315-20150322154733

Atvelonis wrote: I don't like the idea of having prefixes on lore pages. That is something UESP does and I don't want us to look like we're copying them. We've had enough issues with them in the past and I want to avoid any possible complications in the future. They are not prefixes, they're custom namespaces, using custom namespaces does not instantly mean we're copying UESP. Loads of wiki's use them. UESP doesn't hold total copyright over the name of a namespace, we really need to stop this whole idea that everything has to be done to please them. They don't have any right to come here and demand how we do things, frankly I find that utter nonsense.

An abuse filter is not infallible, and we've had trouble getting them to work. The one that was set up to stop anons from adding categories to articles didn't seem to have any effect, and honestly, it takes three seconds to undo their edit, so I don't see any real reason for it to have been created in the first place. That is because of a bug with a Wikia based feature that I have already reported, not because of an issue with abuse filters. The abuse filter works exactly as it is meant to, if people choose to bypass it, that's their own choice.

The security of an entire namespace, especially one as important as all lore in The Elder Scrolls series, shouldn't be left to a filter. Nobody was suggesting it would, the filter would be there to catch the obvious bad edits. Wikipedia has so many hits on their filters that the extension is not catching all edits anymore and they're using hundreds of them, even down to filters on specific articles.

While a filter can't check the source, that is what humans are for. Filters are only there to catch people adding content to lore pages without a reference, it's up to humans to confirm or deny added content. Nobody is suggesting that filters will replace human intervention, so I don't get what your point is.

The filters are there to stop bad edits. Nothing more. If someone adds in content that passes the filter checks and is added, then it is up to the wiki community to check the edit. I don't get the hate for filters, especially as you yourself even liked the idea I proposed. Can you not make double standards?

It's also been stated that a guild is pointless and will have no effect.