Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-77.98.203.197-20130414002939/@comment-1470368-20140624114029

Datadragon Odahviing wrote: Dude, what I meant by saving the empire again means that either directly or indirectly, you helped to continue its existance. Plus saving the whole nation is like a super cliche.

Plus, the Thalmor will probably win and we'll probably have to stop them from erasing everyone by killing all of them. You do realise that unless the next emperor that Motierre and his conspirators (one does not do this alone) happens to be some god king tiber septim copy, the empire will be broken by the dominion. So I highly doubt recovery. Plus it is natural for empires to fall if ruled by warlords and barbaric feudalists, simply because they cannot unite everyone under a common banner.

You do realise that the plot, so much for all the fine details is still "You are a nobody, you did something, killed the big bad, saved the world (and the empire)". Simply, if Beth wanted to do something they never did before, the empire has to go. Plus, the empire is not really an empire anymore, seeing that they are now only high rock, cyrodil and maybe skyrim (which is probably going to break away).

I really don't like to flame people (and I am trying to word this in a non argumentative way, but that is very difficult), but seriously, why the demand the empire endures? No empire IRL was eternal and as society progresses, empires become all the more impossible to create. Unless Beth makes the games virtual copies of each other and make society so unprogressive that the timeline does not march on, such is not conducive for the survival of any form of monarchy.

Crap. I went off topic. Back on topic

I do really hope the Thalmor do have a temporary victory - then we can speed off and kill all of them again and again. Therefore, combined summerset isles, valenwood and a bit of elsewyr would actually be a good choice, since these are the AD lands. Maybe we would even have to destroy the AD once and for all, plus shake the entire high elf society to its core.

I would also prefer if there were several different styles for each weapon (all swords have single and double edged variants, for example), but that's beside the point If the Thalmor win (as per their true goals), then you can't stop them. Winning, in their case, means already accomplishing their greatest task (resulting in everyone being wiped out of the mortal realm).

The Empire doesn't need some new god-king. It's already been hinted even by Tullius that the Empire is preparing for the Second Great War. As soon as the Civil War is done and over with, and Ulfric's head adorns a spike on the walls of the Imperial City? (As soon as possible)  They can continue rebuilding & add to the Legions' strength until the Dominion decides to break the WGC. What the Empire really needs is full cooperation of all remaining Imperial Provinces (plus Hammerfell & Morrowind), and to defend the remaining Towers within their own torritory.

Aside from that, the Dragonborn certainly won't become Emperor...not after being determined as the "Last Dragonborn" or just being a player-character in general (as the player-character often suffers from Bethesda's trend of mysteriously disappearing)

I don't want to argue ("flame") either, but it seems the point I was making earlier was missed:  As Bethesda has done with every single TES game they've made before (including Skyrim), they don't need for the Empire to fall to "breathe new life" into the series as they've already found other ways everytime. TES VI will most likely (undoubtedly) be no different. The Empire will just go through yet another period of falling on hard times, but that obviously won't be the main focus of the story.

No Empire is "everlasting", but Tiber Septim's Empire (now the Mede Empire) will last the longest. :D

We all know this:  Another temporary victory for the Thalmor would actually be for either the Skyrim Civil War to persist, or for the Stormcloaks to "win" (so the Dominion can just swoop in & destroy what remains of the now-independent Stormcloaks). The WGC doesn't prevent them from attacking Provinces that are no longer under the Empire. Heck, the fighting in Hammerfell that led to the Second Treaty of Stros M'Kai was actually a Dominion victory (as it gave Hammerfell an excuse to secede; thus weakening the Empire).