Board Thread:Skyrim/@comment-120.28.157.86-20140406014559/@comment-183.171.182.148-20170220170610

Its still pretty impressive Ulfric mustered his own private army which is able to match the empire's legion. Anyway there is no 9/10 time empire victory, only 10/10 time dragonborn victory.

Ulfric's stormcloak started the civil war which may indirectly aid the thalmor in the long run. But the empire also aided the thalmor by signing the concordant. The empire captured you when ulfric was smoking weed beside you but they decided to chop 2 heads instead of one. As long as the civil war is ended the thalmor loses.