The Elder Scrolls Wiki:Moot/Log June 2019

"Any subcategories from Category:Morrowind: Characters by Location that do not refer to a location marked on the world map, or a region will be deleted. Passed, 3-0-1." Roz do you know if this was done? What about this? From january "Remove the categories for Notes and Letters, and Journals in Online. (7-1-0)" Both from January "Lastly, we agreed to add individual NPC IDs to pages like Bandits (Skyrim) in addition to their leveled IDs, and for all individual pages on generic NPCs, to include the leveled ID alongside the individual ones. (7-0-0)" No idea about this one
 * 20:00: Rupuzioks: hello
 * 20:01: Rupuzioks: I see no one is here yet, I guess there won't be a moot then
 * 20:04: RenzXVI: I have no idea.
 * 20:04: RenzXVI: There were 2 other people here an hour ago but they disappeared.
 * 20:04: Rupuzioks: Discord is silent too
 * 20:05: RenzXVI: WolvesMaulThings and Unriveted Radiator.
 * 20:05: Rupuzioks: also there are no topics for the moot
 * 20:05: RenzXVI: Oh, that explains it. XD
 * 20:05: RenzXVI: So Rozty can't make topics appear out of nowhere this time?
 * 20:06: Rozty: hey there
 * 20:06: Rozty: nah not today
 * 20:06: RenzXVI: Oh. XD
 * 20:06: Rozty: sorry to let you down guys lol
 * 20:06: Rupuzioks: this month will be empty then
 * 20:06: Rozty: it seems so
 * 20:07: Rupuzioks: I guess there are still older moot decisions to follow
 * 20:07: Rupuzioks: not everything is updated still
 * 20:07: Atvelonis: I am here
 * 20:07: Rozty: yeah true, in a way it's better like this
 * 20:08: Rozty: hey
 * 20:08: Rupuzioks: hello
 * 20:08: Atvelonis: afk briefly I need to finish arguing with someone on the internet
 * 20:08: RenzXVI: So our topic for today is Atvelonis.
 * 20:08: RenzXVI: GoT sucks and his picture is still season 1 GoT. XD
 * 20:09: Rupuzioks: about icons topic is still untouched at all
 * 20:09: Rozty: i'm kinda afk too rn
 * 20:12: Atvelonis: Ok I'm ready
 * 20:12: Atvelonis: Kind of uh
 * 20:12: Atvelonis: Empty house
 * 20:13: Atvelonis: We don't necessarily have to decide new things. We could use the time to coordinate which tasks need to be completed the quickest, since there's a backlog
 * 20:14: RenzXVI: So the icons don't exist yet?
 * 20:14: Atvelonis: The stuff that was decided at the last moot? I don't think so. At least I've not done anything with it
 * 20:15: Atvelonis: User:Atvelonis/Bot
 * 20:15: Atvelonis: hi nekyn
 * 20:15: Nekyn Alb: Hiyo
 * 20:15: Atvelonis: So on this page I have the things that I am planning to do with my bot, and the things that I am currently doing
 * 20:16: Atvelonis: I feel that the #1 priority right now is adding the DLC parameter to ESO infoboxes, because we currently have 10k+ pages that aren't categorized properly
 * 20:16: RenzXVI: THere was a decision last moot that needed a revisit, I don't remember what it was anymore. XD
 * 20:16: Rozty: was it about the eso stuff?
 * 20:16: Atvelonis: So far I have updated it for all NPCs, and for base game armor. I intend to finish armor today and get started on books
 * 20:16: Rozty: i don't rememer which one it was
 * 20:17: Atvelonis: TES:Moot/Archive
 * 20:17: Rozty: yikes, but that can be done with the bot though right?
 * 20:19: Atvelonis: Yes but I'm doing it semi-automatically because the infoboxes are all inconsistent
 * 20:19: Atvelonis: People are really supposed to use every variable even if it's unused, for this reason
 * 20:19: Atvelonis: Unfortunately they tend to leave them out, and then the spacing ends up wrong, and the ordering can get messed up, etc
 * 20:20: Rupuzioks: at least lately they are using it right
 * 20:20: Rupuzioks: creating from template
 * 20:20: RenzXVI: Can't it be botted to fill in the blanks first then fix it?
 * 20:20: Atvelonis: Let me pull up my find+replace scan
 * 20:22: Atvelonis: actually I got started on books earlier, it was armor that I skipped
 * 20:22: Atvelonis: https://i.gyazo.com/b3b4636db980f3822c3a2169bfd7fa04.png
 * 20:22: Atvelonis: headers being find, replace with, case sensitive, and regex
 * 20:23: Atvelonis: What I'm doing is adding the variable at the bottom of the infobox, accounting for various structures it uses
 * 20:23: Atvelonis: This scan just went through the base game, so it's adding Base
 * 20:23: Atvelonis: Today I intend to go through each DLC individually and add that as the parameter instead
 * 20:24: Atvelonis: I've optimized it pretty well for books. This works for about 95% of the pages that come up. It will be higher for DLCs since they are more recent and thus better standardized
 * 20:24: Atvelonis: But because there are errors I can't just let the bot go free, so I have to sit and go through each page one-by-one
 * 20:24: Rozty: would anything else need something that much different?
 * 20:25: Atvelonis: Not much different, no
 * 20:25: Atvelonis: I'd just need to adjust some of the variable names, spacing, parameters, etc.
 * 20:25: Atvelonis: The time-consuming part is just that I have to do it semi-automatically
 * 20:27: Atvelonis: anyway
 * 20:27: Atvelonis: Could we go through the moot archive since August and see what still needs to be done?
 * 20:27: Atvelonis: The Elder Scrolls Wiki:Moot/Archive#September 2018
 * 20:28: Atvelonis: ---
 * 20:28: Rozty: i remember that it was done
 * 20:28: Atvelonis: Ok, and I think that everything in October and November was also done
 * 20:28: Atvelonis: And December
 * 20:29: Atvelonis: "Remove categories, and add appropriate subcategories where needed, in Category:Morrowind: Characters by Faction, according to the Construction Set. For example, removing the "Daedra Worshippers" category for Morrowind, Skyrim and Online. (6-0-0)"
 * 20:29: Rozty: oh yeah, that has not been done
 * 20:30: Rozty: from what i remember at least, i think i need to double check
 * 20:31: Atvelonis: Ah yeah looks like it's not finished
 * 20:31: Atvelonis: Category:Morrowind: Daedra Worshippers
 * 20:31: Atvelonis: Hmm. Do you think you could do that this weekend?
 * 20:32: Rozty: i think i can yes, there don't seem to be that many pages
 * 20:32: Atvelonis: Great
 * 20:33: Atvelonis: It looks like the following things have also not been finished: "Rename Stolen Items to "Treasure Items" and rename Category:Online: Trophies to "Category:Online: Collectibles." Also tweak previous change to have subpages for each museum on the "Museum Items page". (5-2-0)"
 * 20:34: Atvelonis: I think those are both bot tasks. I can add them to my list
 * 20:34: Rozty: oh yeah, these are definitely too much work to do manually
 * 20:36: Atvelonis: For March 2019, still need to be done: "We also decided to add the |exp parameter to infoboxes and the  template, that uses a formula for the given experience We will also put the range of exp values in the ==Rewards== section. (8-0-0)"
 * 20:37: Rozty: the first one will need some work, but i don't remember what the second one was exactly talking about
 * 20:37: Atvelonis: On Bandits (Skyrim) I think someone got rid of a bunch of specific IDs so that they could use leveled IDs
 * 20:38: Rozty: they did?
 * 20:38: Atvelonis: Think so. And it's saying to re-add the original ones
 * 20:38: Rozty: oof that's confusing
 * 20:38: Rozty: i think i was there too, but i don't remember much of it
 * 20:38: Atvelonis: Bandits (Skyrim) ?diff=next&amp;oldid=2842365
 * 20:39: Atvelonis: Not totally clear, I would have to revisit it.
 * 20:39: Atvelonis: I think it's not the most critical thing
 * 20:39: Atvelonis: sounds like it would be very similar to . I could do that since I did the first one
 * 20:40: Rozty: oh right, i remember now
 * 20:41: Atvelonis: "Due to the amount of pets and mounts in ESO, it was decided to split OnlinePetsNav and OnlineMountsNav into different navboxes. (4-0-0)"
 * 20:41: Atvelonis: The templates are already separate...?
 * 20:41: Atvelonis: Or did it mean that we should make even more of them?
 * 20:41: Rozty: are they?
 * 20:41: Atvelonis: Template:OnlineMountsNav
 * 20:41: Rozty: i think it was to further split them don
 * 20:41: Atvelonis: Template:OnlinePetsNav
 * 20:41: Rozty: down
 * 20:42: Rozty: based on the type
 * 20:42: Atvelonis: Type as in species?
 * 20:42: Atvelonis: Seems a little excessive for mounts... for pets I see that though
 * 20:42: Atvelonis: https://i.gyazo.com/31810d6eb5f4e8cb7f75154d52c3b450.png
 * 20:43: Rozty: i think i need to see the moot log to remember, but pets was getting too excessive and it needed to be spit down
 * 20:43: Atvelonis: The Elder Scrolls Wiki:Moot/Log April 2019
 * 20:43: Atvelonis: ah yeah
 * 20:44: Atvelonis: Mounts... does not need to be split. It is perfectly readable
 * 20:44: Atvelonis: Pets is gigantic and terrible though
 * 20:44: Atvelonis: can figure that out with tinyclayman
 * 20:45: Atvelonis: And I assume that nothing from May got done either?
 * 20:45: Rozty: it's mostly easy to find their types
 * 20:45: Rozty: because of the similar naming
 * 20:45: Atvelonis: Right
 * 20:46: Atvelonis: So how should we rank these in terms of priority?
 * 20:46: Rozty: there might be some that need more thinking, but most are just x senche or y horse
 * 20:46: Rozty: i think alphabetically is nice
 * 20:46: Atvelonis: brb 2min my cousin got here
 * 20:46: MrRiddle0: Hello
 * 20:46: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: hello
 * 20:46: Dwemer35: Hi
 * 20:46: MrRiddle0: What’s the current topic
 * 20:48: Rozty: figuring out what topics we need to implement
 * 20:48: Rozty: and he's gone
 * 20:49: RenzXVI: lol
 * 20:57: Atvelonis: Ok this is annoying timing
 * 20:58: Atvelonis: I think my ranking is just going to be chronological
 * 20:58: Atvelonis: personally at least
 * 20:58: Atvelonis: Anyway I have to go. Rozty, could you do the moot log?
 * 20:58: Atvelonis: Start off by copy+pasting it into a pastebin and share that on Slack/Discord etc.
 * 20:59: Rozty: i can paste it somewhere for now, but i will have to fix it later
 * 21:00: Rozty: when exactly can i say that the moot started btw?
 * 21:01: Atvelonis: i can't read up that far since i refreshed by accident. whenever you think is appropriate
 * 21:01: Atvelonis: gotta go
 * 21:01: Atvelonis: o/
 * 21:01: Rozty: oof
 * 21:01: Rozty: well, i have to go to, cya guys o/
 * 21:02: Dwemer35: Goodbye