Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-27007772-20140611204941/@comment-25513154-20150618032202

Ok let me get into some extra points about a realistic Canon Dragonborn;

He got arrest for nothing.

He saw, identify that Hadvar and that woman next him are curropt. (saying other wise is denial)

He identify Ralof and Ulfric telling him to get up and get in the tower. (They could have left the player to die but they didn't-Whole some people)

He noticed Hadvar could have just told Tullius this persons not on the list.

He identifed Hadvar as a psychopath.(He didn't need Hadvar at the point in Helgen)

He Noticed General Tullius 3 times now. (The same goes for General Tullius to the db)

Notice Elenwen once in Helgen

In real War he (ldb) would have a bounty for the Empire on his head but hey. (NOTICE how they say wanted posters are there for the Ulfric and others but they are no where in game.) cough...lack of realism.

When it comes to the choose between Hadvar and Ralof who do u think the ldb went with. (In reality he's already branded a criminal by the Empire for nothing, He also now has a bounty on his head. So the obvious answer is Ralof)

Outside of Helgen;

He's a nords, He can walk (or wait hours) about on snowy mountains without feeling the cold. 50% resistance to frost Grants someone the ability to do that. The ONLY other option is Snow Elf but the game points out he isn't with dawnguard.

The db joins the DBH at a low to medium level because thats one of the first rumour quest.

The db joins the Compainions at a low to medium level. Rumours, Metting the Companions outside whiterun and they had room for this one last person cliche.

He joins the War at a low to medium level. (Because it's better for skyrim)- I say he joins the Stormcloaks because in reality he has a bounty on his head/he's on the wanted "posters", almost got his head chopped off for no reason and notices the thalmore treating him by saying soon nord your land and your people will be theirs.

He and others notice that J-Yarl Elisif is a Puppet of the empire, Having her on the throne would destroy Skyrim. (sell out the empire)

He doesn't know about the Great War, from dial with other npcs.

He notices that he's killing thalmore everywhere he goes Winterhold quest, Elisif quest, foot soldiers and mages and For the Graymanes in whiterun etc

The Player gets Wuuthrad which also points out he's a nord (it also makes more sense that he's a nord because Wuuthrad as a Elf or Breton "WOULD" weaken the player while wielden it)

He Becomes a enemy of the Thalmore and the empire because they yet again identify that he was at the embassy, furture proving he's marked as a enenmy by the Imperials and Thalmore.

The db gets hunted down by Thalmore.

Season unending was done to beat Alduin

The Db kills J-Yarl Balugruuf Either by

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:The_Whispering_Door or By the db killing him for whiterun (ever wonder y the db doesn't kill Y-Jarls and all they do is go to Windhelm or Solitiude.) Since thats not real War, Balgruuf was killed.
 * Several elements in the Creation Kit seem to indicate that a portion of the quest was omitted from the final game - it appears that Jarl Balgruuf's children were supposed to fall under Mephala's influence one by one, culminating in them killing Balgruuf in an act of patricide. It seems that his brotherHrongar would have replaced him as Jarl upon death, given that he has unused dialogue mirroring Balgruuf's for several quests, and some citizens of Whiterun, like Ulfberth War-Bear having unused dialogue referring to Hrongar as Jarl.

He does Saadia quest and choose the Alikar because it helps them fight off the imperials or Thalmore spys back home. Saadia sold out to the Dominion back home.

All dragonborn's are jacks of all trades it what makes different than most.

The dragonborn collects all Dragonpriest mask to get the War lord mask. Notice to ACHIVE WAR LORD the priest has to have all other mask. hint hint.

The dragonborn kills the Emperor. (Even if the player hasn't joined a side yet, this isn't my bias) Either way the playthrough is done destroy the db or not almost all the members died. The only ones alive are Cicero, Babette, the db and the NIGHT MOTHER. Cicero could have easily found the db with the night mother around and she could have spoken to him.

The db is the only person needed for the DBH quest. (Fact most of the others all died or set him up)

He supposed to have a massive bounty on his head but that part of the game is off.

With all of this he's already a enemy of the Empire and the Thalmore. So he just Finishs them off.

War quest isn't complete

The game is missing Hypothermia and major blizzards/Storms. These affects can turn the tide of battle in seconds. The stormcloaks have a greater advantage in skyrim because of this, there 50% frost resistance keeps them in battle for extremely long amounts of time. If your of a different race in Tes that npc would most likely die from frost.

The Yarls in skyrim would be killed or tourtured for information so they wouldn't get back to that hold. That part of the game cuts own on realism.

The player has to do the civil war in a certain order or the game breaks some quest.

Stormcloaks in the ck data file has gaints litural trained GAINTS and wolfs.

The player is supposed to kill Elisif but the war quest was already rushed and unrealstic so yeah. U can in game turn off her essential mark for Elisif kill her an Erikur will replace her. the gaurds blame the stormcloaks for her death.

Wanted posters are missing

Skyrim itself is missing holds that could have change the tide of battle but they weren't added. In general the skyrim is squished done

http://s8.photobucket.com/user/mariedanj/media/Arena/SkyrimMap-1.png.html

A map of how it should be in LORE PERSPECTIVE- in game has a couple books mentioning citys not in game.

So which one is canon? skyrims landscape or Arenas, because if its Arena then theres no point in continuing discussing the war for skyrim when its clear is broke.