Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-16047389-20140228182302/@comment-28693219-20160508151119

80.216.218.146 wrote: Blademaster Jauffre wrote: It's exactly what you said, unless if you don't know what you're saying.

She was only invited because there would be a negotiation for peace with the Stormcloaks knowing the Stormcloaks go all crazy over Talos worship, Elenwen had to be there to ensure the WGC wouldn't be broken by the Empire. Her death would result in the next Great War. Oh and by the way, according to your own logic, why didn't Galmar and Ulfric just wait for her to leave High Hrothgar and kill her? According to your logic the Stormcloaks collaborate with the Thalmor.

Skyrim wouldn't have fallen into a civil war without Ulfric, because anybody else would ask the people what they want, cast a vote throughout Skyrim and ask for independency to the High King. Unlike Ulfric, who straight up murdered Torygg.

Everywhere in the game, usually looked over by Stormcloaks.

Talking about how trade was going, but not some trade negotiation.

It seemed like you were referring to the Thalmor.

They are going to do that, the Empire isn't placing them there for show, talk to Tullius. I know what I said, and it was the Helgen was nothing.

And it isn't.

A temporary ceasefire not peace to deal with Alduin and the dragons, ie absolutely nothing that concerns the Thalmor.

Talos worship had nothing to do with it.

Elenwen or even any Thalmor dying would result in the next Great War?

Then have come that hasn't happened yet then?

Stormcloaks kill any Thalmor they run across, why isn't there a war yet huh?

Riddle me that please

Get real, accidents happen and Skyrim is dangerous.

There are numerous ways to kill which the AD can do jack all about.

Dark Brotherhood for one, and the AD would have to prove the WGC has been broken otherwise again why hasn't the second Great war started already?

In a way sure, Ulfric or Galmar should have "accidentally" tripped into Elenwen pushing her of the mountain.

Ulfric could have sneezed Thu'um'd her off too come to think of it.

Not really, Ulfric and c/o don't hang at Thalmor parties and go out of their way to invite them were their presence is in zero ways required.

That is all on Imperials.

In another thread you said going to the people over Jarls is stupid and something a foriegner does, which way is it?

Challenging the High King by duel is well established in Nord culture.

It is the Nord way.

And nope, still not a murder.

Yup, the disatisfaction described in Skyrim's Rule would indeed have made civil war very very ad nauseum ineivitable.

Yeah, not really.

Unless hidden in like the code of the game needing special programs to find.

How the trade with the Thalmor were going, yes.

Oh, sorry.

Could have phrased that better.

That one is all me, apologies.

Were are actions that show they will, all actions shown are Imperial aiding Thalmor.

Talk to Tullius for more words?

Yeah right, words are wind. Tullius was actually trying to help Skyrim, Ulfric just wants power and fame. He literally tried to get you to kill him, for the reason of "It will make for a better song." If you look at Tullius, he doesn't care about the White-Gold Concordant. He lets all his men worship Talos. Look at Rikke, or Hadvar, As long as they keep it out of the Thalmor's eyes, it's fine by him, do you know why? He knows that Talos formed the Empire, Ulfric doesn't seem to care at all. He even woke up Alduin. He studied with the Greybeards. He'd know the prophecy. He just continues to murder Torygg.