Board Thread:Consensus Track/@comment-24325144-20141001194150/@comment-69.247.6.120-20141002221144

Psychomantis108 wrote: GarouxBloodline wrote: So, there is a problem. And my personal opinion over this, is that the role-playing forums need to be at least temporarily removed from the wiki, until a time comes where the current aftereffects have finally calmed down. I think the compromises proposed earlier are decent, but it comes to mind that argumentum ad temperantiam is a logical fallacy, and a middle ground cannot always be achieved, nor should it be desired in every instance. I mention that, because if we allow the old role-playing forums to exist while disallowing new ones, then all we are doing is putting a bandaid on getting our current disruptions settled. Forgive me if I'm reading this wrong but all that I'm getting is: The admins screwed this up, so the RPers should suffer by having their RP thread taken away from them to avoid angering them or at least to avoid them expressing their anger.

That doesn't make any sense, you're taking away the ability for us to even work towards changing things and leaving us with nothing, in an effort to get us to 'calm down?' It is too late to calm anyone down, and no one individual or group is responsible for what has happened. These disruptions have been bred over a long period of time, over an aspect of the wiki that is still relatively new and unmoderated. I cannot put blame on the admins for not taking steps to avoid these disruptions, as hindsight is 20/20, and they need to learn from experience before such expectations can be placed on them.

And we cannot fault the role-players, as there is no way they had the intention to start the build-up which has led to this moment in time. So, in all respect to everyone here, I do not consider this anyone's fault. We are all a victim of cause & effect, is all, and we need to learn from it.

In any case, no one can deny that role-playing forums are causing a problem, and no one here is currently equipped to fix what is wrong. It is a shame that the entire bunch of apples were spoiled, but my personal opinion is that we need to throw the entire bunch out, and cultivate a healthier environment in-case we decide to ever have apples again. Keeping around a bunch of bad apples, is just going to continue spoiling the bunch, which is self-defeating.

So, I believe we need to remove role-playing forums entirely for now. Once everything has calmed down, and the community gets together to discuss how to avoid this scenario from repeating, we can then, and properly, start talking about bringing back role-playing forums. And when that day comes, should I be around, you can expect me to throw my full support behind such an ideal, as I would hate to see role-playing forums gone for good here.