Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-62.31.43.199-20131118141224/@comment-13446185-20140320204459

Smoking.Chimp wrote: Well, seeing as you put it that way, I'm saying that Xal holds with "a group of power-maniacal anti-elven extremists" and, whatever he might say about the Dwemer, for Xal to continue to hold with "a group of power-maniacal anti-elven extremists" he must be known for saying things which "a group of power-maniacal anti-elven extremists" can accept or he won't hold with them much longer, will he? Yes, and the Selectives have accepted the fact that the Dwemer knew how the universe worked.

The rest is speculative. How do we know, for example, that this "group of power-maniacal anti-elven extremists" actually experimented with anything? Do we have to take their word for it? What on Nirn is "a group of power-maniacal anti-elven extremists" doing with a Deep Elf (Xal) in their midst? And why would we believe that these Marukhati Selectives, "a group of power-maniacal anti-elven extremists", would know anything about the universe much less believe that they could know more than the Dwemer who, incidently, proved their knowledge with the technology they produced? Where is the technology of the Marukhati Selectives and how does it exceed that of the Dwemer? Where are the ruins of the Marukhati Selectives? Based on this wiki's entry for the Marukhati Selectives, it would seem that they left neither artefact nor ruin of their own making. We know the Selectives did this from this book Where were you when the Dragon Broke?.

The Emperor-Oversoul was able to partially comprehend what happened during the Middle Dawn and it knew the Marukhati Selective was responsible.

''“No one understands what happened when the Selectives danced on that tower. It would be easy to dismiss the whole matter as nonsense were it not for the Amulet of Kings."''

Also Mannimarco confirms it.

"How do you think I learned my mystery? Marukh showed us all the glories of the Dawn so that we might learn, simply: as above, so below. 

Other than this the longer version explains how the Selctives created the Middle Dawn.

I think this should also be said;

"Get me, Cyrodiil? When will you wake up and realize what really happened to the Dwarves?”  This is a line taken from the Khajiit excerpt of Where were you when the Dragon Broke? while the Khajiit was talking about Dragon Breaks. This is another implication of Bethesda that the Dwemer returned themselves to the Dawn.

I don't get why it is so hard to believe that the Dwemer anti-created themselves. The Thalmor have a very similar goal.