Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-26213507-20150928140042/@comment-26693897-20151021133932

@LLamakingGod&7 - MK hasn't worked for Bethesda in over 10 years, so what he says about TES isn't automatic canon, only if Bethesda choses to include it. And that dragon emblem is nothing but a 3D version of the Empire emblem. Also the Empire introduced to us in Skyrim is the 4th Empire. If this Empire falls, another one will take its place. An Elder Scrolls game is incomplete without the Empire.

@Phantasys - I don't care if the original code of the game have Ulfric and his men bent the knee to the Dragonborn and say "We are yours to command, Dragonborn. Let's fight against the Empire and their pure blood elven overlords together". This means nothing if we don't see it in the game. And where is stated that Tullius still threatens to throw you in prison? When I told him I was a prisoner from Helgen, he didn't say "Oh yeah, you are one of the prisoners. Guards, claps him in iron and lock him up".