Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-30011802-20170217032502/@comment-26893431-20170330132115

ZhugeQuanqiang wrote: Skyrim becoming poor under the Empire's rule is a fact. If you actually paid attention, the Empire had to give the chests of gold to the Jarls after the Great War was to bribe and appease the Jarls. Oh you only want to take credit for everything good that happens and wash your hands when it isn't? That is not how it works if you wish to be the overlord to the Provinces. You take responsibilities because until the Civil War broke out and got replaced by the Stormcloaks, all those Jarls are the Empire's responsibilities as the leader. Being irresponsible and say it is not the Empire's fault when the going gets tough is just a surefire way to be the most unworthy leader deserving to be toppled by their underlings.

If the Empire is worth anything as the leader of the provinces it will jolly well suck it up and take the responsibilities that it should or don't talk much to Skyrim and get lost.

Tactical thinking. I am pretty sure being one who went through official military training in OCS I know tactics and strategy way better than a nerd who has never even killed someone in an actual battlefield before.

I didn't say specific battles will be fought solely, I said which one to invade, to conquer. Also, making all your enemy gather at one spot has its advantages too shows a complete lack of tactical thinking that you think you possess. Sending another force to the North to keep the northern provinces tied down also draw your forces away, not to mention the Aldmeri Dominion will need to move over a much greater distance to send an attack force to High Rock (because your suggestion is extremely stupid to attack Skyrim when there's a chance to expose your back to the Empire supporters in High Rock and end up trapped in a pincer attack)

Going North to hit Skyrim and Cyrodiil has disadvantages to the Aldmeri Dominion. When you have to transport troops and resources over a larger distance, not only you waste more resources just to get to your target, it also greatly increases the chances of being spotted and thus creating the opportunity for the Empire to discover your intentions, prepare against him. So no, if they send a second force, its going to be one to tie the other parts of the Empire down while they take Cyrodiil. Cyrodiil is a better place to invade and conquer because the turnover rates for expelling resources to take it is way better.

As for gathering troops in one spot. Their situation, speed is better. Right now the Empire is divided, the Imperial Legion had expended a small force to the North to fight a war which weakens the Northern reinforcements. The Dominion just needs to hit the Empire immediately after the Civil War ends and half of the reinforcements (High Rock+Skyrim) will be just exhausted troops who had just finished fighting a war and travelled all the way down to south by the time they meet the Aldmeri troops which for all they know, already destroyed the Imperial Legion at the borders and laying siege to Leyawiin or Bravil.

Spies: If soldiers in Uniforms can gather all the information you need, there won't be a need for spies. You're wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong and wrong again.

I am not obliged to enlighten your lack of understanding therefore I will only state one thing. Even as allies, they won't share every secrets with each other. For their situation the moment the Thalmor took Valenwood from the Empire, the need for spies had greatly increased as the amount of secrets the Empire and Aldmeri Dominion don't want the other to learn increases.

For the spies part. I am using Lore perspective and partially how real life works. Seeing how uncooperative the Empire and its people are, (Unless you are saying the Empire is the Thalmor's dog) I believe there is absolutely to no chance that they can fulfill their goals' needs under 9 spies on the field.

The need continues to double until there will only one way; to use spies. Perhaps 4E 20s they only need 3 ~ 6 spies in each Provinces, but now, they'll need at least an agency for their needs. It is a fact. Uniform soldiers regardless of ranks can't do as they please. They need spies. What the soldiers in uniform reports is only a minor part of what they need.

If I were the Thalmor, I'll use Alfiq and Alfiq Rahts to spy on the Empire. Prove it. There's no evidence that Skyrim became poor because of the Empire, nor is there evidence of those chests of gold being bribes. The Empire allows its provinces to remain largely independent, so no, it isn't responsible. Hence why it isn't responsible for the War of Bend'r-Mahk either.

When you're in a restaurant, is it the chef or the manager that runs the kitchen? Exactly, the chef. The manager runs the restaurant (Empire) and the chef runs the kitchen (province), why? Because that's what they are best at. And if it goes wrong in the kitchen, the chef is to blame.

"I was a soldier so I know everything in regards to the military", utter nonsense. You weren't a spy, you don't know how any of that works. Being a grunt doesn't prove anything. Not that I'm believing someone with the lack of military understanding such as your own could have ever been part of one. Then again, that's probably why you're a veteran, because you couldn't function properly.

I do hope you realise that the Empire is still in no shape, whatsoever, to declare a war, right? And that the Empire will fight a defensive, not an offensive, war, right? If the Dominion invades Skyrim, the Empire's still too weak to stop them, and they wouldn't even consider trying to invade them anytime soon. And really, supply lines? After Skyrim's conqeured suddenly all of its resources dissapear? What sort of advantage does keeping one huge, hostile force on your border grant you? Elaborate, "soldier".

Well, seeing as these soldiers are meant for patrols and casual sightings and not for well, full-detailed reports, nothing wrong. Do you think an army commander wouldn't mention a hostile army invading a city because "well, can't report that, I'm not a spy"? Cut the nonsense.

You can't prove it. As with most of your claims. You're not using lore perspective, since you're making it up instead of looking at what's stated.

Too bad you're not the Thalmor and the Thalmor don't use them to spy.