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I can safely confirm now you have not read a single one of my posts, as all the things you have asked for sources on I have given books for, multiple times.

"Finally, the magical beings of Mythic Aurbis told the ultimate story --  that of their own death. For some this was an artistic transfiguration into the concrete, non-magical substance of the world. For others, this was a war in which all were slain, their bodies becoming the substance of the world. For yet others, this was a romantic marriage and parenthood, with the parent spirits naturally having to die and give way to the succeeding mortal races.

The magical beings, then, having died, became the et'Ada. The et'Ada are the things perceived and revered by the mortals as gods, spirits, or geniuses of Aurbis. Through their deaths, these magical beings separated themselves in nature from the other magical beings of the Unnatural realms."~The Monomyth

Finally, tired of helping Tall Papa, Sep went and gathered the rest of the old skins and balled them up, tricking spirits to help him, promising them this was how you reached the new world, by making one out of the old. These spirits loved this way of living, as it was easier. No more jumping from place to place. Many spirits joined in, believing this was good thinking. Tall Papa just shook his head.

"Pretty soon the spirits on the skin-ball started to die, because they were very far from the real world of Satakal. ~ The Monomyth

"But this was a trick. As Lorkhan knew, this world contained more limitations than not and was therefore hardly a thing of Anu at all. Mundus was the House of Sithis. As their aspects began to die off, many of the et'Ada vanished completely. Some escaped, like Magnus, and that is why there are no limitations to magic. Others, like Y'ffre, transformed themselves into the Ehlnofey, the Earthbones, so that the whole world might not die. Some had to marry and make children just to last. ~ The Monomyth

No, Lorkhan did not give himself to Nirn. His heart was torn from him AFTER Nirn was created, he is not an earthbone, like Akatosh, or Arkay, he is not one of the laws of reality, and no, his body did not become Nirn, it became the moons.

In short, the Moons were and are the two halves of Lorkhan's 'flesh-divinity'. Like the rest of the Gods, Lorkhan was a plane(t) that participated in the Great Construction... except where the Eight lent portions of their heavenly bodies to create the mortal plane(t), Lorkhan's was cracked asunder and his divine spark fell to Nirn as a shooting star "to impregnate it with the measure of its existence and a reasonable amount of selfishness." ~ The Lunar Lorkhan

As for him being the god of space

Lorkhan is the Spirit of Nirn, the god of all mortals. ~ Spirit of Nirn, God of Mortals

You lack a basic understanding of physics if you think space and time are two different things, as they are not. You should probably read up on it here.

As for your belief on stasis and change, no, they are not separate things, or opposites, again, you lack basic understanding of philosophy or physics. This dualism is mentioned in the game itself

All Tamrielic religions begin the same. Man or mer, things begin with the dualism of Anu and His Other. These twin forces go by many names: Anu-Padomay, Anuiel-Sithis, Ak-El, Satak-Akel, Is-Is Not. Anuiel is the Everlasting Ineffable Light, Sithis is the Corrupting Inexpressible Action. In the middle is the Gray Maybe ('Nirn' in the Ehlnofex). ~ The Monomyth Masser and Secunda therefore are the personifications of the dichotomy-- the "Cloven Duality," according to Artaeum-- that Lorkhan legends often rail against: ideas of the anima/animus, good/evil, being/nothingness, the poetry of the body, throat, and moan/silence-as-the-abortive, and so on ~ The Lunar Lorkhan

Except we do know Shzzarines exist

It is a solid truth that Morihaus was the son of Kyne, but whether or not Pelinal was indeed the Shezarrine is best left unsaid ~ The Song of Pelinal Volume 5 The people of Tamirel know Shezarrines exist, they, and we, just don't know if Pelinal was one. Although, the devs have confirmed it.

As for Tiber being called the two-headed king, again, I have listed ingame sources several times, perhaps you should read posts before you respond to them.

Vivec then saw the moths that would come from the starry heart, bringing with them dust more horrible than the ash of Red Mountain. He saw the twin head of a ruling king who had no equivalent. And eight imperfections rubbed into precious stones, set into a crown that looked like shackles, which he understood to be the twin crowns of the two-headed king. And a river that fed into the mouth of the two-headed king, because he contained multitudes. ~ Sermon 19 Vivec called to his side the Hortator and this was the first time that Nerevar had ever been to the Provisional House. He had the same vision that Vivec had so many years ago: that of the two-headed ruling king.:'Who is that?' he wondered. Vivec said, 'The red jewel of conquest.' ~ Sermon 34

Actually, it was Shezzar who was created from a watered down version of Shor

Shezarr, as a result, had to change. He could no longer be the bloodthirsty anti-Aldmer warlord of old. He could not disappear altogether either, or the Nords would have withdrawn their support of her rule. In the end, he had become "the spirit behind all human undertaking." Even though this was merely a thinly-disguised, watered-down version of Shor, it was good enough for the Nords. ~ Shezarr and the Divines

As for why he would kill himself.

"But when Trinimac and Auriel tried to destroy the Heart of Lorkhan it laughed at them. It said, "This Heart is the heart of the world, for one was made to satisfy the other." ~ The Monomyth Lorkhan was condemned by the Gods to exile in the mortal realms, and his heart was torn out and cast from the Tower. Where it landed, a Volcano formed. With Magic (in the Mythic Sense) gone, the Cosmos stabilized. ~ Before the Ages of Man  The powers also created Red Tower and the First Stone. This allowed the Mundus to exist without the full presence of the divine. In this way, the powers of Ada-mantia granted the Mundus a special kind of divinity, which is called NIRN, the consequence of variable fate. ~ Nu-Mantia Intercept  Others think that Lorkhan created the world as the testing ground for transcendence; to them the spirit realm was already a prison, that true escape is now finally possible. ~ Spirit of Nirn, God of Mortals And this is the most-reached destination of all that embark upon this road. Why would Lorkhan and his (unwitting?) agents sabotage their experiments with the Tower? Why would he crumble that which he esteems?

Perhaps he failed so you might know how not to. ~Vehk's teaching

Lorkhan killed himself to bring stability to a world that couldn't exist without him, yet, was unstable while he lived, and to show others how to not fail at the path of ascension.

Also, Sovengarde disproves nothing, again you are equating a god's death as being the same as a mortal's death, Lorkhan's sending of avatars, and the other gods sending of avatars, despite being dead, shows the gods are still very active, even in death.

Have you seen the state of akatosh in Skyrim?

THIS RIGHT HERE is very clearly a snake, you can even see the sepentine body wrapped around the central pillar.

Note how he clearly lacks the body and legs of dragons from Skyrim, insted having a single sepentine body with no arms or legs, only wings.

Plus,  who cares what the developers say? If it's not in game, it doesn't fly. This is the most idiotic thing one can say.

Its like saying what George Lucas says about the Star Wars series means nothing, or that what Tolken says about Lord of the Rings means nothing.

The developers are the people who make and own the world, their world is law because the world is theirs.

It wouldn't matter if Tolken never wrote down in a book that nothing existed east of Mordor, because he owns the series, and his word on it is LAW regardless.