User talk:Atvelonis/Archive 12

Re: Adiós!
Thank you for the Sweetroll! I take this opportunity to tell you that Spanish has an opening exclamation mark, ¡hasta pronto! Amulet of Kings (talk) 20:14, September 10, 2018 (UTC)

Page rename request
Hi,

I'd like to ask your help with a rename described in this blog post: User blog:Thifike/Writ of Endorsement should be renamed to Magister's Writ.

Thanks, Thifike (talk) 21:05, September 10, 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you, this makes sense. Thifike (talk) 16:51, September 12, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Skill Cap
Incidentally that's generally why I stay away from that because I know I have a 50/50 chance of gettng it right about when it's supposed to be cap'd since sometimes it doesn't make sense to me when I see it cap'd and sometimes not cap'd in the same area. Thanks for being polite about it. Shane for Wax (Speak back) 03:18, September 14, 2018 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, the public nature of messages on the wiki make it to where I am very shy about asking for fear of sounding stupid in front of the whole wiki. Though I guess while I am here I should ask if Draugr counts as a race and thus are a proper noun in articles or not. Since on the article for them itself has the name not capitalized in some places and cap'd in others and usually I use those kinds of articles to tell for later. [[File:Shaneforwaxsig.png]]Shane for Wax (Speak back) 00:38, September 18, 2018 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately my anxiety doesn't see it that way haha. It just knows that everyone that comes along after can see the talk page too. So I presume that includes variants as well unless otherwise considered a unique version (like draugr wight versus like a named draugr), or it's in a list/spreadsheet form. I've always considered them a race but good to know. Though a little daunting because that means the article for them needs work, too since I've just looked at it again and one of the paragraphs has two different ways of writing them. Not the first time I've found a main article for something and seen it not clear anything up for me at all. lol Thank you! Good to know for the rest of the quests. I wish there was an extended list of what counts and what doesn't. [[File:Shaneforwaxsig.png]]Shane for Wax (Speak back) 21:33, September 18, 2018 (UTC)


 * Fair enough. Last bit of business for now I guess would be I started finishing the main quest line for the College of Winterhold and realized I couldn't tell if "Magic Anomalies" fell under creature rules or not and ran into the same issue as draugr haha so mainly left it alone (or tried to after realizing i couldnt tell. Some areas may need reversion but I am on tablet right now so i couldn't just use ctrl+click on all instances like i would on desktop to return to the original and didnt want to revert all the changes). And speaking of the quests page, is Dawnguard meant to show up on that page and out of order like that? The quests page for Dawnguard has a completely different order so it feels really disjointed looking between the two. I am more curious than anything cause of how odd it is to see especially because it is shown as just being a faction line instead of DLC because it has no visual distinction from the others. And the paragraphs at the top implied that Dawnguard quests wouldnt be on that page at all. The talk page seemed to have stalled out when it was brought up about the dlc quests. [[File:Shaneforwaxsig.png]]Shane for Wax (Speak back) 05:53, September 19, 2018 (UTC)


 * No worries, haha. I didn't want to touch it in case I was missing some "Wiki Lore" about how Dawnguard quests belong on that page because they're mostly done on the main map or something. Though I feel if they've been on there so long it may just be best to keep it but at least fix the order so it's proper timeline wise and in line with what the Dawnguard quest page itself has if everything else stays as is. It's not a big deal to me personally but I won't be messing with it since that seems like a staff thing to do. [[File:Shaneforwaxsig.png]]Shane for Wax (Speak back) 01:53, September 25, 2018 (UTC)

Report
Helloo Atvelonis, just wanted to report yet another underage member who goes by the username Emma Corboy, who even states in their bio that they are eleven. Not exactly discreet about it

LoreleiTheGreen (talk) 23:04, September 16, 2018 (UTC)LoreleiTheGreen

Arena Images
In pursuit of improving my Tamrielic Lore Skill ;) I've attempted to start playing the games from the beginning, that is, with Arena. Right now, not very successfully... the Arena starting prison is very tough. Anyway, I noticed that all of the place pages for Arena say "Have a world map of this location? Then please upload it!" with the image needed category and yet, as far as I can tell, the province map is the best map the game has. The only other map is the full Tamriel map:



I could slice that up in an image editor, but I think it would be less detailed rather than more. So, I propose removing those tags - it's as good as its gonna get. DaBarkspawn (talk) 22:49, September 23, 2018 (UTC)


 * Yes, those zoom in images are the ones I am saying are the best we can do. Take Black Marsh (Arena) for example. That image was taken using the zoom in method you described, with the zoom in on the capital city of Helstrom. Yet the page still requests better images and it isn't clear to me at all how one would get a better image of Black Marsh in Arena than that one. DaBarkspawn (talk) 23:29, September 23, 2018 (UTC)


 * Ah, okay. Will post images... assuming I ever get out of the prison. ;) DaBarkspawn (talk) 02:37, September 24, 2018 (UTC)

Discords
Hello, do you know of any discords for the Elder Scrolls? Thank. 129.101.17.134 09:42, September 26, 2018 (UTC)


 * Silver4Raven (talk) 01:31, September 27, 2018 (UTC)

Carac Dena Interior Map
Hi Atv, sorry for bothering with my mistake but I uploaded another image for Carac Dena interior map. Can you please delete File:Carac Dena Interior Map.png or :File:Carac Dena Map.jpg ? Thanks a lot --FrisyN (talk) 21:57, September 26, 2018 (UTC)

Uploads
Hello there

i have a question about uploading pictures to articles (TES)

when uploading a picture does it just change like edits?

or does it need to be applied

i uploaded a world map for ashunartes (TES 3) yeserday and i am sure that i pressed he upload button

thanks for your timeElzengy (talk) 19:25, September 28, 2018 (UTC)


 * RE: i saw your messege recently and i found out that i must upload from the edit page


 * thanks for your time

Redlinks
Hey, Atv. Thanks for the comment. I looked up the style guide on linking and you are right about redlinks preceding articles. But there is really an underlying problem around when a redlink should be formed. Here's the thing in the case at hand: there appears from all I can tell and google search, only one shift gate in Arena. It occurs at the end of the Imperial Dungeons and the Escape From Prison Quest. I absolutely grant the position that it deserves its own section on the walkthrough, what I contest is why such a minor, one-off element deserves its own page. DaBarkspawn (talk) 22:08, September 29, 2018 (UTC)

Town Locations Proposal
As I was editing the Heldorn Mount page, I came to realize that there are really two kinds of useful maps for towns and some other locations. One is the "How do I find this place?" map, which is a section of the world map with the location highlighted in some way. The other is the interior map of the location. Unfortunately, the template only allows for one map. Would it be hard to change the template to allow for an interior map and an exterior map in the infobox? DaBarkspawn (talk) 02:51, October 2, 2018 (UTC)
 * Perfect! Many thanks for the tip! DaBarkspawn (talk) 06:09, October 2, 2018 (UTC)

Appearances Scoping
If a location appears in multiple games, we've decided to have multiple pages, one for each combination of {location,game}. If the page for a location in a game should only have information about that location pertaining to that page, does that mean that the Appearances section should only list appearances in that game or should all of the location's pages contain duplicate Appearances sections which cover all possible games? DaBarkspawn (talk) 16:43, October 3, 2018 (UTC)
 * Got it, thanks. If I don't know the citation for a mention, I'm going to assume good faith and copy the appearance line to a different page that is missing it. If I know it, of course, I will add it. DaBarkspawn (talk) 19:38, October 3, 2018 (UTC)

Factual correction
On the page for Ulves Romoran, trivia states that he is the only resident of Tel Mithryn that is not essential. This is incorrect, as Talvas Fathyron is also a non essential character. He has protected status, and a high damage resistance, but still is not essential. ElRey81188 (talk) 19:12, October 5, 2018 (UTC)ElRey

Pelagius Septim
It may just be that I'm overlooking something, but why does it say that Pelagius Septim was as strong as a ruler as his father, when he succeeded Tiber Septim? It must mean that it's his grandfather that it's referring to? I apologize if I'm missing something from this. ThunderStar321 (talk) 01:25, October 7, 2018 (UTC)


 * Awesome, thanks for responding! ThunderStar321 (talk) 16:10, October 7, 2018 (UTC)

Camp Silken Snare/Sare
Hi Atv, can you please delete these two images: File:Camp Silken Sare Map.png File:Camp Silken Sare.png There was mistake with duplicity in Shadowfen article. Thanks --FrisyN (talk) 15:35, October 7, 2018 (UTC)

Legends cards
Let me look and see what I can do ;) I'm in the middle of two large projects, but might be able to squeeze some time in. If I can, I'll probably just pop right in and get down to it :) Raylan13 ( talk ) 16:05, October 8, 2018 (UTC)

Potentially stupid q abt Hall of the Dead
Should the first instance of Hall of the Dead on the Skyrim locations page point to the disambiguation page? Also should it still be mentioned under all the other cities a Hall of the Dead can be found? as it stands, only one city has it under their location list on the main locations page. Is this an instance of "only one mention even if found in multiple locations" that is sometimes in place? I couldn't find a precedent here for it. Though potentially it could follow the stables and have their own section, separate from the Holds listings, maybe? I wanted to ask before doing an overhaul. Shane for Wax (Speak back) 12:50, October 10, 2018 (UTC)


 * So it used to be like the Shrines of Talos but got changed over before I did much on the wiki. Good to know. When I finally feel well enough to get on the computer I will see about fixing the linkages. Thank you. [[File:Shaneforwaxsig.png]]Shane for Wax (Speak back) 13:11, October 11, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Book lists
Ack. :)

Thifike (talk) 15:58, October 18, 2018 (UTC)


 * Actually I have a question. Let's take Cyrodiil as an example. When I found an image for a book and correct the location of that particular book according to your request i should go up the hierarchy of locations and add the book everywhere. Take a look at this:


 * Minutes of the Elder Council:


 * 1) I added a link to the Lambent Passage page, which i assume is correct.
 * 2) I added a new section Notable Items to the Imperial City Sewers page and added the book.
 * 3) According to your request I should also add the book to Cyrodiil's page, however it doesn't seem right to me. The region is so huge, it should have been filled with hundreds of books and shouldn't I be the one creating the Notable Items section on the page. Or should I?


 * What is your recommendation?
 * Thifike (talk) 16:25, October 18, 2018 (UTC)


 * Ack again. :)
 * Thifike (talk) 16:51, October 18, 2018 (UTC)

RE: Heya
HI Atvelonis, hope you are well and enjoying your time away. Just droppin by to say hi after I saw your message... from a year ago :D sorry bout that. It got me reminiscing, and I got to say, the team was really helpful and welcoming, hi CarloV3r, if you see this, hope are well too :)

It was great to work with all of you. Take care, see you around.AgentOfMara (talk) 13:05, October 24, 2018 (UTC)

Legends cards uploaded
Howdy :)

I've gone through and updated all the Legends cards that had pages. I've also uploaded all the card images that didn't have any associated pages. I've listed them all here; to the right are the image files and to the left are the (red-linked) pages that need to be built. Hopefully I've got all the correct file names - if not, just appending (Legends) should work.

I'm currently swamped with games coming out that I need to cover :P The earliest I could help with those pages would be mid-November. If that time rolls around and they're not created, feel free to swing by and give me a poke! Raylan13 ( talk ) 18:06, October 25, 2018 (UTC)
 * Not a problem - glad I could help! Raylan13 ( talk ) 19:19, October 25, 2018 (UTC)

Closure of Tagalog wiki
Hi,

The Tagalog-language wiki at http://tl.elderscrolls.wikia.com/ has been closed; it doesn't need to be linked anymore.

1857a (talk) 13:31, October 26, 2018 (UTC)

Report
User MagicRush says he is only 12, so underaged. Just thought I'd let you know. LoreleiTheGreen (talk) 09:15, October 27, 2018 (UTC)LoreleiTheGreen

Lydia
So the other day I was editing the page Lydia (Skyrim), and I added a part that said something along the lines of "she can not be used as a follower after marriage". I looked back on it today, and saw that it needs confromation. It's just something that I noticed when playing, so how do I confirm it?

Thanks

Masidillia (talk) 18:32, October 27, 2018 (UTC)Masidillia


 * I got your response, and I don't know of any other editor that'd be able to confirm. TNR doesn't edit really, and he's the only one I know that could. So if I were to ask in the discussions if anybody else has expirenced that problem, would that be enough if I got one or two to say yes?


 * Masidillia (talk) 19:02, October 27, 2018 (UTC)Masidillia

Re: Member of the Month
Thank you! :) Thifike (talk) 09:45, November 3, 2018 (UTC)

Failsafes
Hello Atvelonis,

I have recently added information to the The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Side Quest page. The information I added was in relation to a quest that was missing from the Leyawin section; "Buying a House in Leyawin".

This is the first time I've ever altered any information on any Wiki found online. I am very passionate about the preservation of video games. That also includes any information documented on them, so that future generations can gain insight on past titles if they so desire.

I was pleased with how easy it was to add information to the Side Quest page. However I am concerned that a user could easily alter information with malicious intent.

I just wanted to ask if there are any fail safes should such an attack be made?

P.S. Thank you for assisting in keeping this website together, it has proven very helpful in completing all the Quests that Oblivion has to offer.

Yours sincerely,

84.203.108.160 17:00, November 6, 2018 (UTC)

Scroll Scholar

Wikis in other languages
Hi,

The Georgian-language wiki that should be located at http://ka.elderscrolls.wikia.com/ is "not a valid community." I think there's no point in it being linked anymore.

While we're on this topic, I'd like to point out that there is an alternative Ukrainian-language wiki at http://uk.tes.wikia.com/. It links to all the other languages, including us, while everywhere else links to the older Ukrainian wiki at http://uk.elderscrolls.wikia.com/. Both wikis are active, so it's a bit of a conundrum as to which version we should link to.

1857a (talk) 03:57, November 8, 2018 (UTC)

Duplicates
Hi, Atvelonis,

I'm pretty sure Hunter's Camp (Online) and "Hunter's Camp: Bleakrock Isle" are about the same location. 1857a (talk) 22:40, November 17, 2018 (UTC)

Bot linking
Hi, Atvelonis

I have a list of 290 Daggerfall city pages that need interwiki links to Italian. I'm pretty sure that all the Italian page names are identical to English (I've gone through them and removed any that differ). Is it possible to have a bot do this task?

Also, a small number of these 290 pages already have Italian links which I manually added.

1857a (talk) 20:30, November 27, 2018 (UTC)

Good articles
Hey Atvelonis, how do I nominate a page for a good article? I found an article of superb quality and I'd like it to be recognised as such. Thank you.

Vainyth (talk) 17:22, December 10, 2018 (UTC)

Recent edit
Hey I made a recent change to your elder scrolls wiki just to test the waters to find out if just anyone can edit it. Could you delete/change my edit for me? Thanks for the understanding. It is the C next to Alessia on the lore page.

Re: subst:PAGENAME
Yeah, sorry, I knew that at one time, but had since forgotten. My apologies, won't happen again. Sincerely (talk) 04:16, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Uploads
Hey Atvelonis! Thanks for welcoming me. 🙂 Sure, i'll upload much more 4K images soon :3 — Argonin (my talk 08:36, December 29, 2018 (UTC)

New message
Hello. I was looking through this article when I discovered an article with its description copied from UESP Wiki. The wording has been changed slightly, but it was obviously copied. The user who wrote  your wiki's article,  though he is now inactive,  has previously been reprimanded for plagiarism and had his edit history investigated, but obviously some stuff slipped through the cracks. Just wanted to bring this to your attention, thanks. 67.166.183.211 18:48, January 6, 2019 (UTC)

Thanks!
Hi Atvelonis, sorry about the poorly placed page!

I'm quite obviously totally new to the whole wikia format, so I'm still trying to figure things out

As per your suggestion, I've posted it in the discussions instead.

Cheers! :)

ThumbNote (talk) 14:34, January 9, 2019 (UTC)ThumbNote

Raffle prize
Hi Atvelonis,

Do you know if other users have received their plushes? I haven't received my prize yet, and I wanted to check that there hasn't been any issues with the delivery. Amulet of Kings (talk) 20:00, January 21, 2019 (UTC)
 * Not to pile more on your plate, but mine also hasn't arrived, although since you said that the US prizes will take a bit longer, I'm not that surprised.
 * Ditto what OH said. I also emailed the guy and asked for a tracking number, but nothing so far. DaBarkspawn (talk) 20:10, January 21, 2019 (UTC)

Re: Sweetroll
Hi Atv! In difficult time when I'm thinking about ending with ESO and everything with it is this sweetroll really sweet :-) Nice motivation in a right time. Impressive timing really. :-) Thank you for your appreciation. --FrisyN (talk) 21:19, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Online abilities pages
Hi,

Regarding pages for Online abilities, should there be a description section if there is already the same description in the infobox? If not, which is preferred: infobox or a section. If yes or section, should the section be blockquote-half or just regular text and should there be another description somewhere for its morphs.

It also seems unnecessary to have an entire section to say that an ability requires a specific level if it can fit in the infobox. Thoughts?

Also, should updates regarding morphs be placed as subsections in the 'Updates' section and have the most up-to-date information regarding the morphs themselves as their own subsection in the 'Morphs' section. If so, should they have their own infobox given that there tends to be major differentiations between base abilities and morphs?

Lastly, is it appropriate to have guides or recommendations for abilities and, if so, should they have their own section or be additive.

If there is a gold-standard of Online abilities pages, could you please direct me?

Thanks,

Grey Fox (talk) 14:15, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

Fandom Help
My greetings, Atvelonis. I wasn't sure if this is appropriate or allowed, but you are perhaps the Wisest person I have seen on any of the Fandoms and I need your help. Do you know who I would contact if a Fandom did not appear to have active Administrators/Moderators? The Fandom itself is still active mind you, it's just that there doesn't appear to be any authority. Any assistance in this matter is greatly appreciated, thank you for your time! Hexonith (talk) 17:28, February 9, 2019 (UTC)


 * P.S. Sorry about the Editing, I am not well-versed in this regard. I wasn't aware that I should have a title before posting, please forgive me Hexonith (talk) 17:33, February 9, 2019 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your advice; I'll see what I am able to do! I wasn't sure if it's better to leave this message on your Wall or mine, but I know that if it's on yours it will notify you. Not sure if it will if I post to my own. The Fandom I speak of is the Sea of Thieves one and while it is fairly small I believe in quality...if even one person visits that Fandom a day, I wouldn't want them to be barraged by Posts of spam and other irrelevant things. Which I realize that's not for me to judge, I will leave that to my betters. Thanks to you, I now have a way to contact them. My gratitude, good sir! Hexonith (talk) 14:00, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

Re: Wrathstone
I actually just finished adding the info for Murkmire when I saw your message :P

I'll check out the other pages too  DRAEVAN13  17:14, February 14, 2019 (UTC)

Request
I'm not currently logged in right now to my account as "Ant'lyndaer_Barri'ana," but I was wondering if it'd be possible to nuke my profile page. I just don't care to look upon it anymore nd I'm not editing pages anymore. If you or another admin cannot do that, would it be possible for someone to at least archive my talk page? I'm just...I'm through spewing disrespectful comments and all that. That was 7 years ago and I was 19 and had that "Internet tough guy" facade going on. So please, again, would someone get rid of all that foolishness on my page? Thank you. 184.102.100.82 13:03, February 20, 2019 (UTC)

Plushie
Hey Atvelonis, how is it going?

I wanted to let you know that yesterday my plushie finally arrived, so other users should expect their prize soon.Amulet of Kings (talk) 14:28, February 21, 2019 (UTC)


 * Got mine today in CA! Thanks! DaBarkspawn (talk) 21:48, February 21, 2019 (UTC)

Banner image
Just wondering why there's still a Santa hat in the wiki image at the top. Or am I just deluded?

Grey Fox (talk) 14:31, March 1, 2019 (UTC)


 * Reloading and clearing cache made no difference. The issue is persisting on multiple devices and browsers. I have made a bug report. Thanks. - Grey Fox (talk) 17:18, March 1, 2019 (UTC)

Re: Quotes
Hello. I was following the precedent Rupuzioks had set when he made several edits to pages I had added background quotes to where they were all lacking quotation marks and were italicised and he changed them to include quotation marks and removed the italicisation (refer to Rescue from Fort Kastav and The Battle for Fort Neugrad). I will revert any changes I made on pages to suit the original and preferred formatting. – Grey Fox (talk) 03:17, March 3, 2019 (UTC)

Use of bullet points in infoboxes
Hello,

Would just like to know which style is preferred for the title(s) variable of biographical infoboxes: bullet points or just new lines for each title. For example, Uriel Septim II vs Uriel Septim III. And, additionally, does this apply to other infobox variables in general?

Thanks,

– Grey Fox (talk) 08:42, March 6, 2019 (UTC)

War of the Red Diamond
So I was upgrading the pages for the War of the Red Diamond and the people involved, when I ran into some issues. The first of these, is that it seems Magnus was married to two people. On one hand, we have Hellena, the Queen of Lilmoth. Several books say that she was married to Magnus and had a son Pelagius by him. On the other hand, some books say he was married to Uthiella, who had powerful connections in Wayrest, and had Pelagius and a daugher, Jolethle by her. Anyone know the answer to this? My next question is about the marriages of Kintyria II. Several sources state that she was to be married to Modellus, a member of the Elder Council. A Brief History of the Empire I, however, says that her consort was Kontin Arynx who fell defending Imperial forts in Eastern Morrowind against Uriel. I am honestly really confused.

Here are the sources: Hellena is mentioned as the wife of Magnus in The Wolf Queen, Book V and Book IV, and is listed as Pelagius's mother in the Wolf Queen, Book VII. Uthiella, meanwhile, is listed as Pelagius's mother in The Madness of Pelagius. Modellus is listed as being the husband of Kintyra in The Wolf Queen, Book VI and Book V. Kontin Arynx is listed as her consort in A Brief History of The Empire, Book I.

I made a discussion about this but didn't really get any responses, so I was hoping you could help out. ProudToBePizza (talk) 01:01, March 7, 2019 (UTC)

Infoboxes for characters
Hello,

Considering the rest of the Septim Dynasty uses the lore characters infoboxes, should Uriel Septim VII also or should it remain an oblivion characters infobox? If the latter, should Pelagius Septim III have a Skyrim characters infobox or retain the current lore characters infobox despite being an NPC in Skyrim?

Thanks,

– Grey Fox (talk) 19:57, March 12, 2019 (UTC)

Sanarel the Great
Hi Atv. I'm desperate of File:Sanarel the Great.png. My version is without the text. Always when I upload new version it shows the text and when I revert it's without. I don't known whats wrong. --FrisyN (talk) 17:19, March 13, 2019 (UTC)

Cry for Help
Mr. Atvelonis, I am in need of your help in a certain wiki matter.

However, for certain reasons, I'd rather not discuss the details here. Rest assured however that what I need will have no ill bearing on the wiki or any of its members.

Is there a place we can talk in private.

Thank you in advance.

 Helel ben Shahaar  ( talk ) 18:45, March 17, 2019 (UTC)

Lists Items for Jester's Boxes
I'm sorry for creating the recipes pages and furnishings for the Jester's Gift Box. I notice the warning about the deletion and that there is a list for those kind of items. I was wondering, is there any List for containers such as Jester's Gift Box or that page is ok?

Also, there are some treasure types that are only meant to be sell like Sliced Dices and others for 100g or 250g. Is there any list for those kind of items?

—Wendigohmer (talk) 15:09, March 25, 2019 (UTC)

Blades
Hi Atvelonis! I do work at Fandom but am also a very excited Elder Scrolls fan. I'm playing Blades right now so I did some edits. I have a list of quests I can start helping out with as well. Please let me know how I can help. This game is so awesome!JadedTLC (talk) 04:04, March 28, 2019 (UTC)jadedtlc

Expansion/rewrite
Hello, i was looking through the Tharn Family page, and it says Euraxia is Abnur’s daughter. I was wondering if this was right, as i had just played the Elsweyr prologue mission, and he keeps repeating that she is his half-sister. Is this just a typo or is some weird things going on in that family? Sorry to bother you! 156.12.248.126 03:31, April 1, 2019 (UTC)Em Bem

Replacing a new map
I was replacing. Since I have a lot of tabs openned on my browser instead I clicked on the wrong one and created a.

How do I procceed?
 * Do I ask to delete the new one and replace in the old one?
 * Do I just replace the path to the new one?

I'm sorry for this mess, —Wendigohmer (talk) 15:28, April 3, 2019 (UTC)

List Quests & Mementos
Hi Atvelonis, In A Favor Returned I was following the guide. I will start using lists from now on. I was wondering, is there any list of Mementos or if should it be created? --—Wendigohmer (talk) 02:13, April 7, 2019 (UTC)

My rights
I was wondering if I can reapply for my rights back. I am regaining my interest in editing. I still have IRL obligations, but with Blades out now, I think this place could use another hand on staff. The Cat Master (talk) 02:10, April 10, 2019 (UTC)


 * Alright! I will submit my application within a couple days. The Cat Master (talk) 03:52, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

Reply
Hello,

Thank you for the information! I apologize for my lack of awareness on all the table formats and stuff, I just got carried away with adding information for Blades. I will try to learn how to properly format things on the wiki pages before adding any more pages!

-Sorathix (talk) 19:57, April 10, 2019 (UTC)

Question
Could you tell me why someone on this website has been deleting what i have been puting up.Rosetilla (talk) 10:10, April 18, 2019 (UTC)

Rannveig's Fast
I am wondering why Rannveig's Fast is listed in Hjaalmarch Hold, as in the offical game guide and on the map provded it is listed in Whiterun Hold. (I am aware the GameBanshee map shows it in the other). Merely wondering how you determine stuff like this. CelticDragon0 (talk) 11:03, May 3, 2019 (UTC)

I was wrong, she was dead... oops?
Hello! Very new to fandom/wiki editing. May I say that I am impressed by your timeliness. (I was the random who added on to Daighre). I was hoping that a mod would check my edits to make sure they were right. I saw the "confirmation needed" and was trying to think of a way to ensure confirmation, but then it occured to me that Daighre might have died in a dragon attack or something beforehand and I just didn't remember. Sure enough, I fast traveled to Left Hand Mine and her daughter is sadly telling me how she's all alone...

Anyways, I'm very glad you were able to check it before I forgot about it entirely and left my shoddy assumption as is.

Cheers!

Db741 (talk) 03:21, May 24, 2019 (UTC)

Re: Image sourcing
Here i am, apologies for the delay but i have some problems and didn't immediatley see the message.

The images have been stored for a while on my computer but they are both present both on The Elder Scrolls Online's website and game folder, the correct URLs should be:

https://esosslfiles-a.akamaihd.net/cms/2019/04/cd7258ba9b240f99efaadf8019b5ca5c.jpg For the Turban Alfiq ( Website page with the image presen: https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/56137 )

The other image should be a simple in-game screenshot.

Drunken Kwama (talk) 07:13, May 28, 2019 (UTC)

(P.s apologies again for the delay and possible bad english)

Elsweyr categories
Hi Atv, I would like to ask, because I'm confused, maybe I missed something... Are there some new rules for new chapters? Because I notices some differences between Morrowind, Summerset vs Elsweyr. (And I'm too curious :-))


 * For example Shimmerene has category "Summerset: Locations" such as all Summerset or Morrowind cities but for Elsweyr - Rimmen wasn't "Elsweyr: Locations" correct and it's more specified. Shouldn't it be the same? (It was really easier to check if there are all images for locations)


 * And a thing where I'm just curious, why Elsweyr pages starts { {OnlineLocations... instead { {ElsweyrLocations...

Thanks. --FrisyN (talk) 14:42, May 29, 2019 (UTC)


 * Wow, thanks a lot for the comprehensive answer. --FrisyN (talk) 19:40, May 29, 2019 (UTC)

Redguard Photos
So I just uploaded an picture of Vander from the Elder Scrolls Adventures: Redguard. I went through all the proper steps but when I went to the infobox to add it to the article, i doesn't show up. What am I missing here? Spymaster Cosades (talk) 00:57, June 8, 2019 (UTC)


 * So CatMaster just moved the picture to the article, which is cool, but I still don't know how. Spymaster Cosades (talk) 01:57, June 8, 2019 (UTC)


 * I can answer that. To put a picture in an infobox, all you need to do is enter Vander (Redguard).png, for example in the image parameter. If you want to put a picture in the a gallery, you will need to use [[File:Vander (Redguard).png]] . I hope that helps some. The Cat Master (talk) 02:12, June 8, 2019 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, I must be missing something - even if I'm not using the info box, if I go to Insert image in an article, and use the search fuction to find the image I uploaded, it doesn't appear. I tried using the method you described but it doesn't work. Where is the image parameter? Spymaster Cosades (talk) 02:38, June 8, 2019 (UTC)

Request for page modification/deletion
Hi, I was trying to figure out how to create a category page for the new Online: Elsweyr collection. I was under the impression that it's ok to play around because i can always delete the page. Well, I cannot.

The page: Elsweyr Epistles and Almanacs

Please either promote it to a proper category page or just delete it.

Thanks,

Thifike (talk) 13:54, June 8, 2019 (UTC)


 * Nevermind, Rupuzioks took care of it.


 * Thanks,


 * Thifike (talk) 15:00, June 8, 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks for taking care of the redirect and sharing the knowledge. :)


 * Thifike (talk) 15:11, June 8, 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks again for the feedback, i will fix these issues. I haven't poem used there because it needed a lot of links and poem doesn't allow you to visually edit links inside (after that i forgot to revert to poem though)


 * Thifike (talk) 15:34, June 8, 2019 (UTC)


 * I always use Source Editor by default, the only exception is when linking to other pages within the Content section. To me the suggestion list in the Visual Editor's hyperlink feature is extremely useful. All I need to do there is select the text i want to hyperlink and then click the button and a suggestion list comes up with all similarly named pages. It saves me a few extra clicks vs. copy&paste into the search box at the top. :)


 * Thifike (talk) 15:52, June 8, 2019 (UTC)

How do you remove categories
When I was making Frostvault It already had the video category and I couldn't figure out how to remove the it so I'm wondering how ThatsOneCrazyCat (talk) 04:14, June 10, 2019 (UTC)

Re: Notable items
Hi,

There are a few books that didn't have their respective location pages created, so i ended up adding them to Northern Elsweyr's page. If you're ok with that, i will create a bunch of location stub pages for these books (and for ones i'm going to add in the future) and that way I can remove the books from the Northern Elsweyr page, however then the wiki will contain a lot of location stubs that only have Notable items filled out.

Is that ok?

Thanks,

Thifike (talk) 17:21, June 10, 2019 (UTC)

Transcription for Shalidor's Insights (Book)
Hello I added a transcription of Shalidor's Insights of the two pages available in game and a Patroller removed it but he said if I think it's a good idea to re-add it I could but that I should consult a more experienced staff member too. ThatsOneCrazyCat (talk) 21:59, June 10, 2019 (UTC)


 * Well I figured since it was in English and Magescript two official Elder Scrolls languages it would be okay. It's not officially on a TIL book page but it's on a Lore forum page ThatsOneCrazyCat (talk) 01:08, June 11, 2019 (UTC)


 * https://www.imperial-library.info/content/shalidors-insights-study
 * and
 * https://www.imperial-library.info/content/shalidors-insights-research
 * ThatsOneCrazyCat Talk 23:06, June 11, 2019 (UTC)

Xbox 360 & Xbox One tags only
I'm wondering why there's no original Xbox tag for the bugs category just the Xbox 360 and One

Ja'nja Talk 00:28, June 12, 2019 (UTC)


 * Well all bugs I've noticed also apply to the 360 it just bugged me and thanks for the heads up with my signature. Ja'nja Talk 00:40, June 12, 2019 (UTC)

Drain vitality shout
Drain Vitality (Dawnguard) has four duplicate shouts one for each additional dps up to 4(One less than the original) also has two for the Reverend and Legendary dragons. My question is should I add them to one of the charts, add a new chart, or just the Bugs. Ja'nja Talk 00:41, June 14, 2019 (UTC)

Help changing user Avatar
I've tried many times to change it but it's never worked. Ja'nja Talk 02:39, June 15, 2019 (UTC)


 * It's less than 100kb Ja'nja Talk 03:48, June 15, 2019 (UTC)


 * It's a .png where do you upload it though? I've clicked on my picture on my profile and hit upload avatar but it just loads and nothing happens. Ja'nja Talk 21:23, June 15, 2019 (UTC)


 * Is there anyway you can change it for me? Or is that a Fandom staff member only thing? Ja'nja Talk 01:14, June 20, 2019 (UTC)


 * Not sure how to upload it for you it's a picture of a cat like User:The Cat Master Ja'nja Talk 22:00, June 20, 2019 (UTC)


 * https://imgur.com/a/ThOOJOx hope this works. Ja'nja Talk 22:56, June 20, 2019 (UTC)


 * Awesome thanks! Ja'nja Talk 01:39, June 21, 2019 (UTC)

For Your Consideration: New Ideas Regarding the Placement of Dawnstar on the Timeline
I was looking through a few things, and I think I figured out a decent spot on the timeline for Dawnstar. The year I believe would be 2E 283, the year where the Dawnstar Fortress fell to unnamed rebels during the Potentate's rule (according to History of the Fighter's Guild). My main reasonings are that, in part, the rebels are unnamed, and that the environment of Dawnstar in the TEST game seems a lot more fortress-like than it does city-like.

Addressing the unknown rebellion first, what's known for sure is that someone, or some group, didn't like the Empire for whatever reason, and revolted in some way. This could be from a band of Nords getting upset and fighting, but it could also be a grand betrayal that leads to the destruction of an important fortress which would follow the poetic and mythic structure of big important events in TES (just an opinion). This may be the weaker of the two main arguments but it is still entirely possible, considering we don't know who or what the revolutionaries were.

As for the game taking place in the fortress rather than the town, there's no waterfront as there is in Skyrim's depiction of the town, so it very well could be indoors. Not only that, but the only NPCs present are weapon/armor/potion merchants and a healer/Oracle. There aren't any homes or civilians, and the only other NPC you have contact with as the player is Governor Vinticae, even if you can't find him in-game.

This brings me to another info bit that points me to the 2E date: the titles of Champion and Governor themselves. The existence of Governor Richton of Stros M'kai shows that the position of Governor existed in the Second Era, and that Governor's are sent to be in charge of towns rather than provinces, hence no Governor of Skyrim and the like. As for the Champions, they are never referred to as anything other than Governor Vinticae's Champions. Although they aren't given a specific province to be the Champions of (like the Champion of Cyrodiil), they are still under the rule of the Empire through the Governor. So, since the 2E 283 date places it within the Reman Empire, it would make absolute sense that there would be Governor's and Champions within Skyrim.

So, in conclusion, I think 2E 283 is when it'd take place. Feel free to get back to me at your leisure and let me know what you think

Gaggle Zealot (talk) 16:02, June 16, 2019 (UTC)

Epilogue (Skyrim) attention template
Concerning the attention template on the page "Epilogue (Skyrim)", I don't think there is anything that needs editing for improvement. The question: "Is this actually a quest, or just the final part of "Dragonslayer"?" I assumed was self-evident given that it has a unique quest ID and is treated as both technically and thematically separate to Dragonslayer. Also, I don't know why this is marked as 'attention' and not a suggestion for the pages to be merged. Please advise. Thank you.

Grey Fox (talk) 14:45, June 23, 2019 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the reply. I was confused concerning the template's applicability since the page history suggested that you created the template (correct me if I've misinterpreted the history) and that it was later removed by a user but then restored by an admin (The Cat Master). Again, thank you for your reply and advisory.


 * Grey Fox (talk) 15:39, June 23, 2019 (UTC)

Re: Quick walkthrough
Thanks for the message. The removal of objective sections was done under the impression that they were to be representative of the official objectives presented in the game and not the general content. Based on your general recommendation, I have taken the liberty of adding objective sections to all Skyrim quest pages as well as ensuring succinct and consistent formatting of background and walkthrough sections and infoboxes. Pages that do not have actual in-game objectives were included to have objectives that were consistent with the style of objectives presented in other quests for the purposes of clarity and consistency. In the future I am considering to begin editing Oblivion quest pages or adding dialogue to Skyrim quest pages that are missing them in their walkthrough sections. Please also don't hesitate to bring attention to things you believe need to be added or changed and I am grateful for your consistent aid and corrections over the course of my edits. Thanks again.

Grey Fox (talk) 03:51, June 24, 2019 (UTC)

Image question
Hello there.

I have been adding pictures to morrowind lately

whenever i add one. i find a messege in my email that the page that i added the picture to has been edited

i press on the link given to see what changed. then i find something changed in the picture name. and i dont understand it. it is mostly thingss that i didnt even write them in the map name.

whenever i see this i feel a bit annoyed that one of the moderators/adminstrators has to do something that (maybe) i can do.

can you help me with this

much appreeciated Elzengy (talk) 20:55, June 27, 2019 (UTC)

Not being notified when randoms respond
It's happened twice so far(That I've caught) a random quoted me and I wasn't notified of it. I barely caught them. Ja'nja Talk 23:51, June 29, 2019 (UTC)

Blades (Personal Issues)
My issue with you guys editing/rewording certain pages of TESB is that it seems you guys do not play the game. Certain creatures can have "evolutions" as the fugitive levels up higher. This only changes a title tag on the creature and obviously health/stamina/magicka which its exact values are unknown to the players. So when I named something "Spriggan" for example and they get renamed to match the picture exactly "Spriggan Earth Mother" these two names are the same creature, but have only a name change and unknown stat changes; all abilities, item drops, weaknesses, resistances, immunities will not change. When I asked in a edit description box for it to be left alone for a day until I get time to finish it and I come back to it being fully changed it makes me not want to edit that page anymore. Its been issues like this that have aggravated me in junction to no one really being in the live chat to communicate with. I learn by doing/discussion and not by reading certain posts that I may not understand without reading many times and trial/error.

Nidiya (talk) 21:24, July 1, 2019 (UTC)

Vandalism report
Could you please undo recent troll revision on skyrim quest page? Thank you. Kylekatarn1993 (talk) 10:41, July 5, 2019 (UTC)

How can you delete blog posts if you can
I created a test one thinking I could delete but can't figure out how. Ja'nja Talk 23:23, July 6, 2019 (UTC)
 * Of course. Ja'nja Talk 23:27, July 6, 2019 (UTC)

Blades Images
Will do, thanks for the heads up.

Blademaster Jauffre (talk) 19:53, July 10, 2019 (UTC)

Re: Elsweyr book collection
Just a quick progress update on this. I've downloaded the PTS client but because I'm in the EU region, my max level characters were not available (as of last week) on the PTS server. There is an option to create a max level char on the PTS but that character will not have the Eidetic Memory collection available ingame until it finishes the Mages Guild questline (~4-5 hours of gameplay). So I'm going to wait a couple of days hoping that my own max level char gets copied to PTS, if that doesn't happen I will try to finish the questline with a random generated max level char and report back on my findings.

Regards, Thifike (talk) 17:52, July 15, 2019 (UTC)


 * Yes, I can confirm that on the PTS Elsweyr Epistles and Almanacs book collection is called Anequina Archives. Here is a screenshot.


 * Thifike (talk) 19:28, July 16, 2019 (UTC)

White Wolf Wiki needs your help.
Hello Atvelonis, you left me a private message some time ago, telling me to come to you for advice. Well, now that time has come, please check your [talk page https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/User_talk:Atvelonis]. Russel Hammond (talk) 05:28, July 17, 2019 (UTC)

Book category completion
Just wanted to let you know that the category Online: Elsweyr Epistles and Almanacs is complete, it contains all the books and all of them have pictures. There is a strange problem with it though, although it contains all 116 books, the category page still says there are only 110 inside. Maybe this is a wiki indexing problem that will go away after some time, don't know.

Thifike (talk) 22:24, August 3, 2019 (UTC)


 * Online: Craglorn Secrets has been completed as well, all books are inside the collection and all of them have pictures. (Might take a while to show the newly added images on the category page, but they are there...)


 * Thifike (talk) 23:49, August 3, 2019 (UTC)

Re: Image Settings
Hi. I guess I just bumped up the saturation for preference, got used to it, and never really noticed but can definitely understand the quality concerns. As such, I retook all of the location images for Temple of the Ancestor Moths (Online) with less saturation and during the day, although it can be hard to get daytime shots consistently of a high quality in ESO and even more so in Cyrodiil. I'll definitely keep that in mind for future uploads. Thanks. Grey Fox (talk) 18:06, August 8, 2019 (UTC)

Re: Raffle prize
Hey, sorry for not replying sooner. Unfortunately, I'm currently unable to claim/verify my Discord account, so a different platform would be preferred. Thank you. Vainyth (talk) 20:58, August 8, 2019 (UTC)

Yum yum
 Ja'nja Talk 02:39, August 17, 2019 (UTC)

By game in lore pages
Hey Atvel. I have a question I hope you can clear something up for me. I was thinking about mass editing lore pages adding By game to the appropriate articles, but I can't seem too remember if their was a moot decision regarding it or not. Any clarifications on this would be appreciated. Thanks. Starkiller131 (talk) 01:18, August 19, 2019 (UTC)

Weapons (Skyrim)
The paragraph is discussing the array of weapons compared to previous titles as a whole. The addition of crossbows is the ONLY difference. I added this fact, and it has since been removed three times. Take your victory, tag team, but mind this; respect can be earned, but it can also be forever lost. VvAnarchangelvV (talk) 00:36, August 27, 2019 (UTC)

Re: Various
I think this is where I respond to what was writing on the talk page. I have read all messages. I am not currently able to read all the info linked by them, but I have read some of the help pages. I mean I can read them, but I need to be able to retain the information. I am basically just about transitioned from visual editor to the source editor. I appreciate the advice, you guys are spot on. I have also looked at the article that was written about in game guide, and have used the edits as feedback, and responded accordingly, and waited for more edits. I was trying to do something similar to some Skyrim articles. I try to go off of what I see (well I try to make sure it isn't a bad example first) and do something close. That way if I do a bunch of stuff, it is much less likely to be wrong. I mean, the last thing people need is someone who willing to do a tone of work, but wrong, fine if they will fix it, but...

I also have an issue with an achievement I would appreciate being fixed. I suppose it's another bug, like the weird banning thing. I had nine days on enthusiast then loading edge after the prior day's hard boot it had eleven, then I made an edit and it went to one. I don't I got two. It also appeared to stay at nine for much longer than it should have, but I figured that was because of late hours. if it could got to ten, that I would be glad. It would be a disappointment not to be able to get it because it glitched rather than I gave up or something. Dutyclaus (talk) 05:20, August 28, 2019 (UTC)


 * Um, I don't if it's glitched again but it wont go up. Also, if it went from 9 to 11 the next day, I don't think that would be a cut off issue. It shouldn't give me two days for loading up a saved edge page. It should go up one, and it was saved too, meaning it was eleven after the hard boot. I don't think this is a missed deadline issue, as it would never go up two days.
 * And I just edited again, this might be the cutoff thing you were talking about where it's still technically one day as maybe made around 1 oclock perhaps (probably before), but I would like it fixed (it would be nice to no it isn't still broken and I can actually earn it). Maybe it though I was hacking or something. I don't know. I'm an achiever, I want it real, and if I don't get it, it would be nice if it was my fault or at least just on me.
 * Dutyclaus (talk) 23:50, August 28, 2019 (UTC)

Blocked
I got blocked for sockpuppetting again. It's really glitchy too, it keeps going in and out of partial permission. Maybe this glitching is what ruined my badge Also, if someone gets blocked, apparently they can't message unless they glitch into it, which I have no idea how this worked as it was locked on view source, and then sometimes when it does that I can't then publish so wee will see if the second part works. Dutyclaus (talk) 03:16, September 1, 2019 (UTC)

Re: Redlinks
Hi, I only removed red links after doing some research into that particular author and confirming that it is only a single book they only ever appeared and their name wasn't mentioned anywhere else, therefore it is extremely unlikely that they will ever get their own page in the future. For these cases I will start to link them to the Authors page instead.

Thanks, Thifike (talk) 08:13, September 2, 2019 (UTC)

Inappropriate personnal information
Hi

I found inappropriate personal information in your wiki.

The comment https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Board_Thread:Skyrim/@comment-842519-20160330015939/@comment-43656628-20190919222826?oldid=2936811 to be deleted.

--TokihikoH11 (talk) 09:30, September 20, 2019 (UTC)

Image from another website and licensing policy
Hi, This image was sourced from Tumblr and the licensing policy is very abstruse given that it says "Images found on other websites such as Google.com or UESP.net should not be used" and then immediately continues to say "but if they are". I added the original source information to the file's page as it suggested but I'm pretty sure it should be deleted without the express permission from the original screenshot provider.

In further regards to the licensing policy, perhaps it could be made more clear by explaining what is meant by indicating that media from other websites is not allowed and to then have that statement seemingly contradicted in the same sentence by explaining how to attribute such images. I would have though that such media should only have to be marked for deletion since it is incongruent with policy. I would of course defer to your judgement if you believe it is fine for the image to remain with appropriate attribution but also recommend that the policy be made more clear. Thanks, – Grey Fox (talk) 12:38, September 20, 2019 (UTC)

Precious Gems page
Hello,

I'm not the best at page formatting so I was wondering why the Precrious Gems page seems to be dfferently formatted from other Console Commands lists. Two of the gemstones seem to be "hidden," the Amethyst and the Flawless Amethyst. Also the Ruby appears to be out of order as it is listed with the F's instead of being in it's own R section. Just wanted to know if it was a page or browser error. Thanks for your time.

Affian Nelson (talk) 18:25, September 21, 2019 (UTC)Affian Nelson

Skyrim Civil War page lock
It's been locked for 2 years, is it ever going to get unlocked?  DRAEVAN13 14:01, September 24, 2019 (UTC)

Timeline dates for Orsinium and Imperial City
Hello, Regarding the most recent edit to Timeline by 1Risingdracyan1, he is correct in that a Reddit post from a ZOS employee stated that all ESO events are assumed to take place in 2E 582 but there are various texts and whatnot form and  (eg "Birds of Wrothgar") that are dated 2E 583, the previously stated date on the Timeline page. Recommend action and policy reference, please. Thanks, – Grey Fox (talk) 10:48, September 26, 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarifications. I'll make the appropriate edits shortly. Thanks, – Grey Fox (talk) 14:44, September 26, 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello,

Page Rename
Hi can I rename "St. Delyn Waistworks North-One" article to St. Delyn Waist North-One? Proofs here:. High Templar Dominus (talk) 11:04, October 3, 2019 (UTC)High Templar Dominus


 * Agree, "St. Delyn Waist North-One" is the correct name per CS. DaBarkspawn (talk) 13:19, October 3, 2019 (UTC)

Stubs
I need help with the whole stub thing. Aperently the information page on templates says incomplete is basically nothing, stub has majority of information missing, missing is it's own thing, and attention is for clerifying a bit of missing info or info that doesn't need to be etc. Aprently, some users have the idea that if there is so much as a single question mark or photo missing it is a stub. I can't seem to figure out why missing template indicates that it is a stub type feed back is correct.

Also, can have those nine days fixed please?

Dutyclaus (talk) 00:26, October 4, 2019 (UTC)


 * I think


 * Enchanting (Blades)


 * is a great example of just what on this earth fenomina with the stubs is going on. The page is huge, filled out, has a picture, has a table, doesn't probably need an info box, and is somehow a page that is considered a stub. Mind you, they keep getting added on when i remove them.


 * Dutyclaus (talk) 00:31, October 4, 2019 (UTC)


 * I am glad I reached out to you first. I now no for much, much more certain about stub; that and I am glad that I now no what to do about the additions.


 * Is there anyone who I can talk to about the acheivement system? Fandom isn't working. Anyone on this wiki?


 * Thanks.


 * Dutyclaus (talk) 05:09, October 5, 2019 (UTC)


 * Actually one of the people doing it is Rupizoids. That quotish thing was from him. I am woundering if it is a better idea if you could handle it. He might feel better if you figure out a way to mention it or ask. Then he won't get emberrassed as he's not being confronted by someone newer. I could if it's better.


 * Dutyclaus (talk) 05:13, October 5, 2019 (UTC)


 * I know it's possible but it glitched. I was on it. I didn't miss a day. Might be in tandem with the sock pupetry problem.


 * Dutyclaus (talk) 04:34, October 6, 2019 (UTC)

Hello
howdy (Meerkatwizard (talk) 18:32, October 8, 2019 (UTC))

Badge name
If I somehow manage to get the 500 edits on blades weapons badge, can it be renamed as insane as dutyclaus?

That would be halarious.

Dutyclaus (talk) 07:12, October 10, 2019 (UTC)


 * Oh, I thought it was for people who extinguish themselves beyond those who distinguish themselves. Like come on, your achevements? Your edits? What in the bananas? That's like, not even a competition. But as for blades, it's like zero to ten versus hundreds or thousands; still not even a competition. But thanks for thinking about it.


 * Dutyclaus (talk) 04:58, October 13, 2019 (UTC)


 * I have given the maddness a chance... I kind of like it... heh heh haha


 * Dutyclaus (talk) 06:36, October 24, 2019 (UTC)


 * So um... I don't think you got my joke. I got the badge 500 edits on weapons, I'm like writing the baldes wiki. So have you thought about it?


 * Dutyclaus (talk) 01:16, October 31, 2019 (UTC)

Potions
Hi, saw you left a message on my talkpage, so I thought I'd ask you. I have recently added some more on the Potions (Online) page, but the Serum of Health already listed there I can't find anywhere, and the ref on its page doesn't work anymore. I guess judging from the date it was something during the development? TherasTaneel (talk) 17:22, October 16, 2019 (UTC)


 * Ah, it's because they are found, not made. Will check the rest ingame if possible. TherasTaneel (talk) 00:00, October 17, 2019 (UTC)

Deletionists
I am having issue with a type of editors I am calling deletionists. See the issue is that there solution to a problem seems to come in with a tourch and burn it all down and scrub everything clean. This creates allot of work for someone else to actually fix and imporve anything, usually atleast doubling it, and then when all that work undoing the damage is done. Oh here they are, conventiently lboth leaving you enough time to fix the damage and not enough to go the original issue. Their problem? It hasn't been fixed yet. And of course it hasn't all the time that could have been spent taking in feedback and imporving upon the issue went into undoing the deletion, and here they the torch again, becuase no matter how many times you explain things to them, they can only understand, like a simple ai, that the curent stat is x, so it it needs to be deleted. Not improved, not all the feedback applied and the problem fixed, deletion is a form of editing, problem solved.

This creates an issue for the person who ends up looking like they have issues when they are just getting back to the origional state. See in these peoples minds you are not smart or something or need to be warned multiple times, so they end up feeling like they are better than you, so of course there is no reasoning with them. The problem with this is it creates illusions and stunts growth rather than people feel better just so a few people can feel like they are better or something than someone else or can talk down to someone who says things they don't understand so by golly they are going to solve the problem of those feelings by feeling like the person isn't figuring things out, and they are going to it by creating an issue that needs to be solved and mistaking it as things like tone or whatever when the real issue is a concept is in rough draft state not whatever feedback they say (atleast not the second time), and the same issues aren't being repeated, the damage done by an unroductive destructive form of editing is being fixed and then casting the illusion that this person who is getting tired of explaining things to people who don't understand is actually newer greener and whatever person who has to be warned or whatever on something that is apperently really what is happening rather than another issue enterely. So now they don't have to feel like they can't understand what the person is saying, problems solved the person is actually a noob or whatever with a gizillion (artificial/ illusionary flaws) flaws other the real ones that need to be addressed so that person can become a better editor.

This crap is destructive, unproductive, and prevents growth. It is alos parasitic and more about generiting feelings for a few people and warping reality rather than intelectual thought and self, or others, growth. I can't grow with this stuff. If people can't be bothered to put in the effort, they need to just let people put it in. Deleting as a lazy form of solving a problem is not helpfull. There is a time and a place that is actually productive for deleting, but it is not always in every circumstance going to be a the right choice and it's not just about preference. If someone wants to put in the effort and edit and teach, fine, if they don't they should probably let the people who are willing to put in effort do stuff.

I don't know how to fix it, but understanding the problem and very likely motives and perhaps subconcious ones, is a good place to start. That and someone like you might be able to tackle the problem.

Unfortunately these typse of things are down hill things that human beings seem to gravitate towards and they tend to grow and become a problem if not handled and more so overtime. It might not be an epedemic yet, but when people are done editing and new people aren't coming like they used to, this could be the cause. That and low quality and constantly having to give warnings on the same things in a way not previously done before.

I don't expect anyone to have a way to address or comunicate the existance of this issue all that soon, but we should start thinking about it now.

As always, thanks.

Dutyclaus (talk) 23:13, October 19, 2019 (UTC)

Spammer
Hi, Atvelonis

User:Hovawa has left spam across several discussions. Please investigate. — 1857a (talk) 13:51, October 27, 2019 (UTC)

Location's names
Hi! I'm from Russian TES Wiki. I've noticed that some locations on your site aren't called the same as in the game. For example, "St. Olms Waistworks North-One", but in the game it's called "St. Olms Waist North-One". Is that a mistake? Or was there a reason to name it differently than in the game? Thank you in advance for the answer :) SergiuZ (talk) 12:18, October 30, 2019 (UTC)