Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-16047389-20140228182302/@comment-80.216.218.146-20160508112918

Blademaster Jauffre wrote: Helgen is nothing? The Empire did exactly the opposite of what the Thalmor wanted, only reason Ulfric survived was thanks to Alduin.

Why are you talking about Dragons? (Fun fact: Ulfric is to blame for their return)

Nope, they didn't. You're ignorant to the lore, start over in Skyrim, learn all the lore again. All the evidence leads to joining the Empire.

Not WITH the Thalmor no, there was talk about how good the trade was going, but that's it.

No, they are there because of Ulfric. Yeah, it's nothing like I said.

Is there an echo here?

Talking about dragons because the cease fire that Tullius goes out of his way to invite his BFF Elenwen to was about the dragons.

Nothing about Talos, nor the WGC at all.

Thalmor, and Elenwen had no reason to be there expect for the fact that Imperials love the AD.

The fact that a accident wasn't arranged for her party afterwards only proves it more.

"oh no, Elenwen tripped all the way from the top of the mountain and was eaten by frost trolls.

How awful but that is just part of the dangers of Skyrim, signed Tullius letter to Aldmeri Dominion."

Is an example of what they could have done if they actually cared about opposing the AD.

But nope, instead we get Elenwen Imperial BFF.

He is only to blame for that in a seriously roundabout way, Mede dynasty has more blame by their bungling of not only the Great War but by allowing the WGC to come into place.

Skyrim would have ceded into civil war with or without Ulfric.

Where is this supposed lore?

They were talking TO Thalmor about trade, so yes.

That was an answer to this;

" Oh really? That's why the Emperor has stationed most of the Legion at the border between Cyrodiil and the Dominion?"

Ulfric is the reason the emperor did that?

Why does it seem like you meant that in a bad way?

But more importantly, why does it matter where they are placed when they aren't going into conflict with the AD ever?