Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-8248675-20130606043855/@comment-17114085-20140427205151

''Wulfharth adopts and is adopted by the Nords then. Ysmir the Grey Wind, the Storm of Kyne. But through Lorkhan he lost his national identity.''

-The Arcturian Heresy

Wulfharth was the first Ysmir to be worshiped by the Nords. Though the Nords didn't even know they were worshiping him, as he lost his identity through Lorkhan.

''Ysmir (Dragon of the North): The Nordic aspect of Talos. He withstood the power of the Greybeards' voices long enough to hear their prophecy. Later, many Nords could not look on him without seeing a dragon.''

The second to ever be worshiped as Ysmir is Talos. Ysmir was the name the Nords gave him, it is both a name and a title. There was also the Ysmir Pelinal. Though was he before or after Wulfarth? I know the original Pelinal was born before Wulfarth but the Ysmir Pelinal was never given a date. Also that quote doesn't state that Wulfarth was the first Ysmir, it just states that he adopted and was adopted by the Nords as Ysmir. Which means that he adopts the title/name Ysmir, meaning that it already existed before him. Which could mean that the Pelinal Ysmir was the first or that there must have been one before Wulfarth.

First of all, the King of Atmora is supposed to be the Giant, hence "Talos farewells the King of Atmora".

Second of all, my point was that Talos wasn't just a title that the Greybeards made up. as the name existed with him in Atmora. With who in Atmora? Wulfarth? I know that was my point. He wasn't the first Talos, he didn't chose the name. He was given the name/title Talos Stormcrown.

As I've said, all Shezarrines are incarnations of Lorkhan. For this reason an early incarnation of Pelinal could very well have also been an early incarnation of Wulfharth. But if Wulfarth was an incarnation of Pelinal then why would Wulfarth's name be there instead of Pelinal. But I guess that would be nitpicking.