User talk:Timeoin

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== Deletion required ==

Skyrim werewolf. --With care and happiness,  Supermutantslayer450' You will know the truth... And the truth will set you free.. 01:01, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

Doing it now :) Kacj321||Project Zomboid Wikia||The Elder Scrolls Wikia 01:15, July 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Appears done already :P lol Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•See current projects 08:03, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

Hi TIM
It's been awhile since we last talked, Timmeh.....glad to see things smooth as waves here on the wiki. I have NO TIME WHAT SO EVER these days to edit ANYTHING. besides I won't get anywhere here. I was good at first, but then everything got complicated. Oh well.

User:LukaSlayR13•"We've planted a seed, an ever-growing wonder to a beautiful tree. Grow. Each branch outstretched and different from the last (from the last)" 04:57, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

UESP Images
Saying "I have bigger priorities to worry about" while placing an incorrect template on our images isn't acceptable. Either delete the image or link to the correct location that I've supplied with my deletion template. Unless you start taking the theft of our images more seriously, I'll have to take this further elsewhere. –rpeh •T•C•E• 07:24, July 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * How is a template saying that the images are coyprighted by UESP an incorrect template? :O As for having bigger priorities... well, I am trying to bring down the number of merge pages, and I cannot do this when the new users insist on just re-adding copyrighted images if i delete them. This way, I thought that the copyright was observed, and I can get on with the work needing to be done during the merger. Do this images need removing as well? :\ Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•See current projects 10:32, July 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * You aren't supplying the parameters so the link's don't go to the right place. You, as an admin here, have a responsibility to either a) stop your users copying our images; b) use the correct template with the correct parameters to avoid violating UESP's copyright; or c) delete the images. And please, if I post on your talk page, reply on your talk page. –rpeh •T•C•E• 13:13, July 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * Apologies about that. Both the talk page thing (I am very stressed regarding RL issues right now, and thus am not 100% "with it") and the templates that I have been using. With regards to the options though: a isnt really an option sadly (as for every newbie I educate, there are more that come in and do the exact same thing). b) I will do - if you tell me what the correct template is? :) is it not ? And c) This is possible, however, several times, the users insist on just re-adding images (For instance, the Bloodgrass Locations map - I have deleted that about 3 times so far :\ I admit though, the parameters are probably incorrect. I apologise for this, and will correct them shortly. Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•See current projects 14:10, July 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * Also, I have fixed that UESP template. :) Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•See current projects 14:20, July 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * Example: (Page currently featured on the site's main page, as an example). Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•See current projects 14:23, July 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * Your Upload page has detailed instructions for filling in copyrights, and currently ends "If you just skipped past everything above to get to the part where you upload the file, your upload will probably be deleted!". Perhaps you might want to simplify the language a bit ("YOU CANNOT UPLOAD SOME IMAGE YOU FOUND ON THE INTERNET WITHOUT SUPPLYING THE CORRECT COPYRIGHT"?) and start actually deleting images that are in violation? –rpeh •T•C•E• 07:26, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

With regards to the Upload page that you linked too... that is a page created and controlled by Wikia. I have no power over that page whatsoever. Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•See current projects 10:33, July 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Since you like templates though, here is another: "Unless otherwise noted, the UESP holds and can grant no rights to the use of any protected information or materials on this site." So this would be why I encourage the use of the UESP template instead of deleting contributions. Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•See current projects 10:47, July 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Whatever. If you don't stop hosting content that violates our copyright, I'll have to take further action. –rpeh •T•C•E• 11:27, July 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Did you read ANY of what I posted? I cannot stop people from using images from your site. Even if I decide to delete contributions like you request, new editors are always going to keep doing this. I cannot prevent it, no matter how hard I try to. If there is an image there, they are going to use it. A more reasoned solution would be to use a template that attributes the source of the image, instead. That way, you get attributed as having the great images, and the newbies are less inclined to keep repeatedly uploading copyrighted images. Sure, I can delete the contributions, but this does not actually solve anything. New users are going to keep uploading images from there all the time. I dont like Gestapo tactics, though. Since you repeatedly point out out though: I checked one of the images that you have requested deletion for. The copyright status on that link that you gave says that the image belongs to Bethesda. So I ask once more ... WHY IS STATING THAT THE IMAGE CAME FROM UESP NOT PREFERABLE? Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•See current projects 11:48, July 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * 1) You can stop it. We stop people using images from other sites, so you can too. 2) I wouldn't mind if you actually followed our copyright. You have to link to the actual image, and you haven't been doing that, despite me supplying the full URLs. –rpeh •T•C•E• 06:39, July 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * I can delete them, sure, that no problem, but newbies like stealing images from the internet :\ In the long-term, I am going to replace most of the images with self-made screenshots from our site for oblivion and morrowind. That should remove most of the temptation to steal images from your site (hopefully). With regards to the second part - yes, a few of them I forgot to link to them (I thought that the links automatically worked, since there was a link on the template). I have fixed this now as far as I can tell (If this is not the case, please let me know, and I shall remedy this). Some of the newer editors here are now taking self-made screenshots, too, like Zluhcs :) Sorry about seeming like I don't care, there is just a lot happening with real life and the merger right now :\ Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•See current projects 08:12, July 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * Okay, thanks. Sorry to keep on about this, but it's really, really annoying. We've put a lot of effort into improving our images over the past few months, and the result is that UESP screenshots keep appearing without attribution all over the Internet. Even GameInformer did it until I bugged them into giving us credit. –rpeh •T•C•E• 07:45, July 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * Its okay. I understand where you're coming from :) All I'm saying is that (unfortunately) there's no way to permanently stop them (If I could, I would). The upload page is the same on all the wikia sub-pages, and probably applies more for the entertainment and lifestyle groups of pages. I've also seen a few instances where people have taken some of these images from Geocities or some such website, and thought it was therefore acceptable to use them :s Anways - if you're happy to use the "UESP" template now that it works, that should hopefully work as a stop-gap measure until i can make non-copyrighted ones. Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•See current projects 07:54, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Copyright Images
Hello Timeoin! Long time, no chat! I just have a small question, and i'll keep it short; what really counts as a copyrighted image? How come some pictures of NPCs and places are removed, while others are not? Zluhcs (talk) 12:00, July 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hey Zluhcs. I am on borrowed internet atm, so I cannot stay online for long unfortunately. :( Um... a short answer is: A copyrighted image, is one that was taken from another website, especially UESP. They have been deleted at the request of the person who made the screenshots of these images (See the above section of my talk page for the creator of these images). Our site prefers images used to be self-made screenshots where possible, to avoid this issue. (They are fairly easy to do, and do not take long to make, once you know how). Does that answer your question? Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•See current projects 12:05, July 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * So as long as a picture is taken by my self, it is not considered copyright here on this website? if i understood correctly? I am of course aware of that Bethesda owns all the rights. Though one thing that confuses me is: How can the UESP wiki "own" pictures? Have they made some sort of an agrement with Bethesda? If not, "copying" a picture from their website would just be considered "stealing", isnt it? Unless UESP wiki pay Bethesda to keep some rights? Do they, or this wiki? Hope you understand my question. Thanks for the quick reply, by the way! Zluhcs (talk) 12:34, July 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, that is correct. Bethesda has the ultimate jurisdiction over all pictures from the games. UESP "own" the pictures in the sense that they took them. Really, it should be merely a case of acknowledging the work done by them in stating that they took the images, and that the images came from that wiki, however, Rpeh (who took the vast majority of the images that appear on the UESP site) - seems to disagree with this, and requests that we remove all images (at least, unless I misunderstood him). I am trying to get further clarification about this currently. Legally-speaking though, it is a copyright breach to take images from websites without acknowledging them, so hence the copyright problems. Short version - just take your own screenshots. It saves a lot of hassles :) (But no, noone pays Bethesda). Oh, and if anyone wishes to use images from, say, THIS wiki for their own site - I have no problems with this, being, after all, a wiki, and wikis are supposed to be all about information sharing. :) Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•See current projects 13:03, July 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * I see, well thanks for clearing that up! I don't like to bring up old stuff, but is it then fine if I reupload the picture of Felgageldt Caves entrance that you removed about a month ago? I myself personally went there and took the screenshot. You might have mistaken it for the picture on UESP and therefore deleted it :) And, is there way to chat with you via microsoft messenger or something of that sort, because I have other questions about this website. Nothing classified or anything that can't be posted here, but it's just that I prefer something quicker :) -Zluhcs (talk) 15:07, July 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * Alright! Lol there is nothing to "forgive", bud! Thanks for the conversation, I guess I can call it that? I feel a bit more safe knowing what I can upload and not, though I would never copy images from other websites SUCH as the UESP wiki. Once again, thanks! :P --Zluhcs (talk) 07:16, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

Tertullian/Tertullius Verus
Hey Timeoin - I'd hate to waste your time with something of little-to-no significance, but if you have the time, can you merge the pages of Tertullian and Tertullius Verus? Because Tertullius Verus isn't a person - Tertullian is, and I think someone just mistakenly make a page for the former. So if you could merge them, it'd be awesome... :D

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Tertullian_Verus, and http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Tertullius_Verus. Thanks, and sorry for taking up your time! BlackCataclysm (talk) 02:11, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Hah, well, what can I say? I'm pretty fickle about somethings. :P Also, how do you start a version of this wiki in another language? Because I know a bit of French, and I wouldn't mind starting it, because I know that's somewhat of a goal around here.

Re: Ood question
Already taken care of :D --Anon(Talk) 03:56, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Interwiki links
Hey, could you add this:    

... to the bottom of the main page? Those links will link the main page to the Elder Scrolls wikis in different languages.

I'd add it myself, but the page is sysop protected :( Thanks --Anon(Talk) 19:01, July 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ood reference is Odd ;)
 * I asked the staff to enable InterWiki links to three more ES wikis (Czech, Norwegian and Portuguese). So could you add these links to the mainpage:

  


 * You can alphabetize them too, if you want to :) --Anon(Talk) 17:26, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

MoS - Minor changes
Can I meet you on the IRC sometime? I've got some questions about possible minor changes to our Manual of Style. -- 'R BlaiddDdraig WolfDragon’s Lair 03:40, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

Vandal
There's been mass vandalism to the Skyrim article, 4 separate edits. Needs a rollback, undo can't do it. -- 'R BlaiddDdraig WolfDragon’s Lair 12:05, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Ban these two IP addresses for a year as soon as you can for vandalism and trolling: 69.183.43.100 and 76.231.162.217. -- 'R BlaiddDdraig WolfDragon’s Lair 05:58, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Hello again!
Around, I still am. Busy, beyond measure. The company I work for has been working a lot harder over the past few weeks, and free time isn't something I have a lot of these days, lol. However, I do plan on making myself much more visible on here in a little while. Especially with the release of Skyrim right around the corner. As for the categories, I'm all ears. Do you have any pressing issues, and what do you feel needs to be done? Mbjones90 (talk) 14:47, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Hey Tim, Is there Any possible way If I or You, can Create a format for the main page of the Elder scrolls Wiki that connects to other main pages like a Skyrim only page or a Morrowing only page. I would like it to be a similiar format for the Fallout Wiki(The Vault) since It seems cleaner and easier to find things.

98.221.54.116 18:11, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Oh Sorry, forgot to log in. The person that was suggesting the format thing was meBlood Reaper (talk) 18:14, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Hi Again Tim It's Been Awhile
I haven't been around lately, so i wanted to see how things were going here on the wiki. I see many newcomers have destroyed our ranks and have risen above me....anyways, sorry if i can't be around to edit or anything, i just haven't the time these days. My spare moments are too few, and stretched way too far :O

Good Luck Tim....on anything ya do here!

User:LukaSlayR13• "I found out I'm lost, but where was I going? Oh I was trying to lose myself.... 00:27, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

Congrats on the 15,000 Edit Mark...I'm a Bit Late!
congrats Tim. And good luck moving btw!

72.93.5.238 01:47, July 31, 2011 (UTC)

Wait not signed in.....

User:LukaSlayR13• "I found out I'm lost, but where was I going? Oh I was trying to lose myself.... 01:49, July 31, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Oblivion Wiki Merger question
Hey Timeoin! Thanks for the reply. I was just wondering when you expect the Oblivion Wiki Merger to be done. I wanted to finish and update the creatures pages. Once the Merging is done I will get started in finishing the Creature pages.

Blood Reaper (talk) 05:40, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

Need help with trolls :P
So I was just trolled recently and I was wondering if there was any way to "lock" my talk page. BTW I told them If they trolled on my Talk page I would find where they live and watch them while they sleep....just something you might wanna know...

Blood Reaper (talk) 05:08, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

What In Hell Has Happened?
I see so many conflicts on here these days....for example, the copyrighted images and such. Rpeh needs to realize that since many images for the pages they're needed for are quite hard to come by, that sharing the images for fair use would be the best way to resolve the debate, though I'm sure it's done by now ;)

Quick question, if you're 12-or-so hours ahead of me, how the hell would I get you at the IRC channel?!?!?!?

Let me know. Oh and I'm sure it's about 7:00 am where you are....maybe not.

User:LukaSlayR13• "I found out I'm lost, but where was I going? Oh I was trying to lose myself.... 22:33, August 3, 2011 (UTC)