User blog comment:Pelinal Whitestrake/About Aka, Lorkhan and broken Windows/@comment-11345660-20140209010228/@comment-13446185-20140213002055

'Alduin is not equal to Akatosh. In any respect. Akatosh may be incapacitated, but he still would be far more powerful than anything found on Nirn, a hundred times so and a hundred times more.'

Sorry, that was kind of a bad on my part. My point is that Alduin in Akatosh are the same just as Alkosh and Akatosh are the same and Auri-El and Akaotsh are the same; but are also seperate beings.

'  And why shouldn't aspects be related in some way? Where's the proof that they don't have to be?'

Shezarr and Sheor; Zenithar and Tsun (just beacause you say it's not true doesn't mean your right); Orkey and perhaps Arkay; Sep and Shezarr; Jhunal and Julianos.

'  The fact that there are differing versions to the story doesn't help. The elves believed the Aedra were tricked and ended up being bound to Mundus, and killed Lorkhan in revenge, a tale of men states that the Aedra chose to do it of their own accord, and the Divines are the Aedra who gave most, with Lorkhan giving his own life to complete Nirn. Which version is true? I don't know, and we will never know if we just keep looking at books to figure it out,'

Most likely both; don't forget this is the Dawn Era we're talking about, in which know linear timeline exists.

'Moving onto the five stories of Wuulfarth, the fact that it says Shor fought the Time-Eater at the BEGINNING of Time? Uh, no, weren't they all occupied with other things, like Shor trying to convince his bretheren to aid him to create Nirn?'

It's referencing the fights that Akatosh and Lorkhan had near the end of the Dawn Era; the point is that this quote basically is saying that Alduin is related to Akatosh and Shor is (quite obviously) related to Lorkhan.

'What information do we have on Sheor? Literally a sentence. How do we know if he is dissimilar or similar to Shor?'

"Sheor (Bad Man): In Bretony, the Bad Man is the source of all strife. He seems to have started as the god of crop failure,"

"Shezarr (God of Man): Cyrodilic version of Lorkhan, whose importance suffers when Akatosh comes to the fore of Imperial (really, Alessian) religion. Shezarr was the spirit behind all human undertaking,"

-Varieties of Faith in the Empire

Seems pretty damn different to me.

'So Lorkhan created the idea that they would split into shards. That is what you are trying to tell me with that passage from the Monomyth correct?'

Incorrect, what is happening is the gods who have allied themselves with Anu and Anuiel are trying to break themselves apart so they can self-reflect (don't ask me why) just as Anu did when he created Anuiel and Anuiel did when he created Auriel. Lorkhan (the incarnate of Sithis) planted the ideas of creating a world where gods could create a myriad of self-reflections. This was a trick as Lorkhan knew that Mundus was based off his own limitations (death; the Aldmeri Lorkhan was trying to kill the other gods), as mortals began to form out of the gods many just ended up dying.

'Well, fooey. Like I said before. It's a book, doesn't mean its true. If all books are to be believed, there would be much contradictory and inconsistent lore in the mix.'

And if none are to be believed then you have sh*ty lore. I assure you the Monomyth may just be one of the most reliable books in the entire game series.

I don't see how this proves that the Aedra split into shards.

The mortals are the proof. They are tiny shards of the gods; aspects of the aedra that have become utterly insignificant by themselves but very powerful together.

'why don't the Daedra do it? There the ones who are always going on about change, and yet the Aedra, who are stagnant and static, they're the ones that are changing? It makes no sense.'

I fell like I have explained this, mortals are not part of the Daedra so they have no ability to change the Daedra (they are literally not our ancestors).

'I am well aware that the word Daedra means "not our ancestors." I am dissapointed in you for assuming so.'

Well you didn't seem to get my meaning when I said;

"Since mortals are heavily connected to and are in away, the Aedra, they have the power to manipulate the heavens through there worship and beliefs. The Daedra (not-our-ancestors) have no connection to mortals and therefore are not manipulated by their beliefs."

'But you are ignoring my point. You are saying mortal belief has power. Many mortals worship the Daedra.'

I'll make it nice and simple for you. Mortals do not have power over the Daedra as they bare no relation to the Daedra