User blog comment:ShawnCognitionCP/The Empire vs Stormcloaks, the most likely answer/@comment-9062114-20140611211441/@comment-12599067-20140615005816

I've been to the market plenty of times, Canuck, and I haven't seen a single person besides Lonely-Gale have a friendly exchange with the Dunmer. I don't suppose you'd have some kind of dialogue here on the Wiki or UESP that could prove they have friendly chats with the Dunmer, do you?

All of Whiterun's homes are smaller compared to Windhelm's, Canuck. It's the way the city was build. However, if you compare the small Dunmer homes to the much larger homes of folks such as the Shatter-Shields, I think you'd see what I'm getting at. The Dunmer homes also lack many of the furnishings that most of the Nordic homes have, which implies that they don't have all that much money to spend on furniture. The fact that they haven't saved up enough money to spend on furniture in almost 194 years certainly says something, don't you think? Might I add that they most likely moved there because that was the only section of the city open.

Yes, Canuck, he does TRADE with the Khajiit caravans and adventurers of Skyrim, because unlike some of the people in Windhelm, they aren't elf-racist. At what point did I say that he got free handouts? While Sadri does work hard, his buisiness obviously isn't much to look at, showing that the wealthier Nords of Windhelm probably aren't trading with him.

Pardon, I was under the impression you were speaking about a different Dunmer. But if you haven't noticed, the Argonians of Windhelm aren't exactly hard workers. One of them admits to openly stealing crates, another is a Skooma addict, and another is quite rude and seems to imply that if you upset him he'll shove you off the docks. Does that really paint them as hard workers to you? Suvaris isn't being racist, she's complaining because they aren't doing their job correctly.

We can't be sure how much they make, but it's certainly implied, which can be evidence enough in some debates, and it certainly seems to be here. Sure, they don't go hungry, because they spend every septim they earn on food and drink, because they don't have the coin to do as the Nords of Windhelm do and buy furniture or decorations.

Viola saying he should raise the taxes doesn't show anything, sure, but Ulfric actually raising them does. It is stated outright by Sadri that the Jarl raises his taxes and he's angry with you for giving the Jarl reason to raise them. The fact that the Jarl can raise the taxes of the Dunmer but not actually help them with anything certainly says something, doesn't it? Can you say "elf-racist"?

Allow me to rephrase so you can understand: Brunwulf isn't the current ruler of Windhelm in a universe where the Dragonborn is neutral, yet still listens to what everyone in Windhelm has to say regardless of race. Ulfric, the current ruler, does not. Brunwulf asking Ulfric to lay off on the Dunmer doesn't cause discord, and there is not a single thing implying that Brunwulf is or was an Imperial Spy. He is trying to fix the current state of Windhelm as Jarl, but because the game cannot alter the layout of the city once it's been put down, it is literally impossible for him to improve the condition of Windhelm. May I also add that many of the people in Windhelm simply repeat dialogue from when Ulfric was Jarl when Brunwulf becomes Jarl.

Light-hearted and fun... I do not think that means what you think it means, Canuck.