Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-26213507-20150928140042/@comment-26801133-20151009093555

College Mage: Ferris wrote: Things left to really discuss:


 * Who rules Skyrim? (personally I believe even if the stormcloaks are sided with, by the time the next game comes he will be dead, and if the Empire were to win, Elisif isnt going to be voted in by the kingmoot to rule)


 * The Stormcloaks can only win the civil war if they have help from the mythilogical creature of legend, the Dragonborn, but by extension, the Empire would have already won, had Alduin not appeared.


 * What the hell happened to the knights of the nine? (not on topic I just really wanna know)


 * If the Empire loses the Civil war, would it be beneficial to keep sending troops to reclaim Skyrim? or simply let them go. Dialog between Galmar and Ulfric suggests they tried to get High Rock on their side and they refused, so could they be faced with Empire soldiers on both fronts?


 * If the Empire is as weak and "dead" as some would have us believe why have the Dominion not swooped in for the final killing blow? Instead they instigate discord within the Empire ranks by using parties.


 * If all decisions made are canon, than Paarthurnax is dead, meaning the Dragons will only Listen to the Dragonborn, and thus giving them a reason to leave (they had to lead the dragons away from the mainland) with the Dragonborn gone, does the otherside use this to their advantage and swoop in to retake Skyrim?


 * Speaking of Canon, since some people believe that the Dragonborn is a Nord Warrior who follows the Stormcloaks, based only on the fact there is a Nord as the flagship mascot for Skyrim, does that also mean they're a Vampire? Since that same Nord is depicted with red eyes in the Dawnguard DLC? This could mean no matter which side wins, its perpetual Darkness within Skyrim, which cant be good for crops....


 * Winterhold's demise was like 80 years ago, conjure up a hammer and fix that shit...


 * Anyone know what happens to prisoners of war? Imperials could be sent back to Cyrodiil, but Stormcloaks? You'd have to kill them to keep them from attacking you again wouldnt you?

Take your pick or start your own...... Well, I guess I will say a little about everything.
 * Who has the Elder Scrolls? Are they accessible to either faction? How does this change the outcome of the war?
 * How mad would you be to find out in the next game, the Civil War is still going on?
 * Does your adopted son or daughter inherit your title as Thane(s) along with your lands and riches when you disappear? Could this mean that after the Dragonborn inevitably leaves, he/she is leaving behind an heir with a ton of mythical artifacts / daedric weaponry and armor and suchfighting for a specific faction (I've often heard My Dragonborn's Son Hroar mention he wants to join the Legion.) ((Side note: I only adopt Hroar because his love intrest is Mjoll the Lioness, and I think it's adorable for them to have a Son named Hroar... "you know.. like the sound a Lion makes"))
 * Anyone else other than me KINDA wish ESO was the second great war?  I just really wish the story would progress already....it's been almost 5 years


 * That is a good question, although, just like with the future Emperor, we have no clue at all. It could be everything from a Nord hero, who gains the favor of his people, to some beggar that might be the bastard descendant to Ysgramor himself. I would like to say Balgruuf would take over, but I don't think he will survive that long either.


 * That is correct. The Empire was about to win. But fate intervened. And, as I mentioned before, fate might have had a reason to save Ulfric. Or not, and it was just an unfortunate incident. Although we don't know if the war would have ended just because Ulfric dies. Galmar, the second in command of the rebellion, was still alive and could have continued in Ulfric's name.


 * There is no record of what happened to them after the Oblivion Crisis. But considering that they were an order stationed in Cyrodiil, the Knights might have fallen to the Dominion during the Great War, just like much else there.


 * Tullius says that the Empire cannot afford to send anymore troops without weakening their defenses. So I would say no, for the time being. And, as I explained in my theory with High Rock in the previous thread, I have a feeling High Rock might not stay loyal to the Empire if they would lose Skyrim. It would mean that the Bretons would lose an important trading partner, which would hurt their economy badly. And to make matters worse, High Rock will be the only provinces left to help sustain the Cyrodiil with its own resources. The Bretons might feel so pressured to the point that they too will drop out of the Empire, because it would be too disadvantageous to stick with them. In the dialogue with Ulfric and Galmar, when Ulfric asks for news from High Rock, Galmar says "not a peep". The Bretons haven't said yes... but also not said no either. Most likely they bide their time to see if the Empire can hold itself together.


 * Because the Dominion are weak themselves from the Great War. Also, they might have troubles on their own, that we don't hear of. Legate Fasendil mentions there are dissident groups that reject the Thalmor rule and the Dominion tries to hunt them down. This might be the start of a rebellion in Alinor. Which leads to a follow up question: do you think the Dominion might fall on its own before a next Great War occurs? That would mean that the Civil War was all for naught. But then again, we hear a lot from the "neutral perspective" calling the war stupid, petty and pointless. It could be an implication...


 * If Paarthurnax is alive, he will try to convince a couple of dragons to join him in the Way of the Voice and become peaceful. If Paarthurnax dies and the Blades rises, the dragons might feel that their entire race will get extinct if they don't make a truce or leave Skyrim. I think either will have a similar effect. And from what we see in game, most dragons are still acting rogue and hostile to everyone, even the Dragonborn. I don't think any dragon, with the exception to some quest specific ones, listen to the Dragonborn. But they might listen to Paarthurnax... or the tip of an Akaviri sword at their throats.


 * Where does it imply he joins the Stormcloaks? The mascot is indeed a Nord, but he doesn't wear Imperial or Stormcloak armor. And even if the mascot is a Nord(and possibly vampire), I doubt they will make it canon. All heroes in the ES series(with the exception of Cyrus), have always been neutral in race and gender. The mascot is there just to give a cool image of the game.


 * Everyone left Winterhold, except a few too stubborn to leave their homes. The others felt it would be impossible to restore the city to its prime. Which makes sense. It would take tremendous resources, in form of gold, workers and building materials to rebuild the city again. And even if they did have that, why would they do it? Aside from the College, there are very little jobs in that region anymore. No farms and only one mine that will soon deplete. They could become a port town, but their neighbors; Dawnstar and Windhelm, already fill in that function. Also, it would be difficult to build a port close to the water, considering the landscape.


 * Yeah, probably. Or they could just sit in prison for a long time. But most likely execute them, like we see in Helgen and Solitude.


 * I don't think they do. The Scrolls are only used in the various Main Quests. But I wonder, is it possible to change time with an Elder Scroll? Maybe change who wins the war? But in that case, picking sides would be pointless.


 * Well, that depends on when the next game takes place. We are all expecting to a point during or after the Second Great War. But it could also take place during the same time as ES V: Skyrim. Though I admit, I would be a little bit disappointed if they do. That would just look so... lazy.


 * I would hope so. My adopted children would have all my garb- I mean, treasures! Like Daedric Artifacts and other Unique and... weird trinkets. Although my two daughters, Lucia and Sophie, might fight over them. Now I'm glad I destroyed the Dark Brotherhood. They might kill each other over the fabled Emperors Robes or the fancy Wedding Dress. Ah, that's my girls... :,D


 * Even though I haven't tried Online yet, I know the anticipation of the Second Great War is killing a lot of us. So of course!