Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-3539474-20130910213054/@comment-10207438-20131009215223

SajuukKhar wrote: Pink Slim wrote: except that none of that has actually happened. Except, if you actually pay attention to the dialog, you would know it has.

As Alvor states when you talk to him, before Ulfric showed up, everyone still had thier shrines to Talos. It was ONLY after Ulfric started his rebellion that the Ad was able to pressure the Empire into enforcing the Talos ban, before Ulfric, they weren't.

Furthermore, The Thalmor have been largely delegated to a semi-remote embassy, and even even more remote and worn down old fort, as their main bases of operation.

And their agents in places like the College of Winterhold, and in Markarth, have been basically told to shit down and shut up, as the Jarls aren't actively helping them, nor has the thalmor, despite their protests, actually ben able to force them to co-operate. The Empire didn't ALLOW people to ignore the Talos ban, it was because nobody was actively enforcing it that people were able to worship Talos, there was no active talos worship, and when there was an active talos worship, after the Markarth incident, The Thalmor forced the Empire to arrest them.

And nobody is telling them to fuck off.

Ancano in the CoW? they're ignoring him because they're independant of the Empire, the Thalmor have no real power over them and he's not doing anything that would deem cooperation.

Ondolemar in Markarth? he's not an advisor or anything of the sort, he hunts down Talos worshippers, that's all.

Elenwen? who tells her to shut up and sit down? Ulfric. someone fighting AGAINST the empire. how the hell does that sound like they're being ignored?

who the hell is ignoring them? They forced the Jarl of Markarth to keep the head of the Justicars in his palace, they give them permission to kill anyone who is suspected of knowing a talos worshipper, and they're the reason a civil war is being waged.

just because their embassy is outside a major city, and their fort is near the coast does not mean a thing, hell they have a headquarters INSIDE Castle Dour, they don't use it, but they have it.