User blog comment:Zippertrain85/All Namespaces are important! (A response Blog)/@comment-3186827-20140805154022

There seems to be a lot of falsehoods being passed off as facts in this blog. I'll address these in a second, but Zipper - be aware that when you twist and distort facts like this, you are only hurting your own credibility. Your argument should stand on its own merit, and you are only embarrassing yourself when someone else comes along with the actual facts. The burden of proof is on you, so when you make such claims - back them up. It can also cause people to ignore any good points you may have had, because they are aware of this pattern of twisting the truth, as you have been exhibiting lately.

Onto the falsehoods:


 * Is the Mainspace the most popular part of the Wiki? Nope, it hardly gets as many editors as the Forums do. Jimeee may have given a statistic that a lot of people view the Mainspace pages, however he gave no such stat for the Forums. If the Forums get more users than the Mainspace, they might have more viewers. So, if we use the most popular aspect of the Wiki as the greatest importance, the Forums would be ahead of the Mainspace.

The stat I gave (between 1.6 and 2 million views per day) - it should be noted that this figure has actually gone down from a year or so ago. The forums were introduced in January 2013 - but even before forums or chat existed, our page views numbers were consistently high and we regularly ranked #1 or #2 in the wikia WAM chats for video games. What i'm basically saying is that, we have always had many visitors, back when forums didn't exist and chat was on IRC. There is nothing to indicate forums are the most popular part of the wiki, and its speculation when you say it is. Especially when the figures from before its introduction are known. You know what the forums are popular for - roleplaying threads. An astonishing 214,203 posts to date. Without a doubt the most popular part of the forums - backed with figures.


 * As I explained, the Forums get more users than the Mainspace, if combine all the "luxery" aspects of this Wiki (Blogs, Forums, Chat) they outnumber the Mainspace drastically!

Pure speculation, with zero facts to back it up. Roleplaying threads make up the bulk of the forum posts. All I'll say about that is how many of our 2 million views a day do you seriously believe are dedicated to them?


 * To be honest, a lot of people don't edit here because the Mainspace is totally user un-friendly in my opinion. There are so many rules that just don't make sense which get in people's way of helping the pages...

They might not make sense to you. The vast majority of our editors over the years have no problem working with them - its one of the reasons why we are still a very successful wiki. Every rule and policy has rational behind it and was agreed upon at some point. If you dont understand, you ask someone with editing experience. You don't edit war and then later be proved incorrect. I suggest you (and anyone looking to edit) take the time to read up on our policies and guidelines to avoid these issues. People who consider the policies too wordy and not worth reading should not be surprised when their edits are reverted.


 * ...people who needlessly revert edits, people who badge hunt, Vandals who are never dealt with, etc. 

Please provide: If you can't provide this evidence, your points here are invalid.
 * Evidence of users who needlessly revert an edits?
 * Evidence of users in recent times guilty of badge hunting?
 * Evidence of vandals who are never dealt with? In fact, a look at out VIP page and block logs indicate the opposite. (The green names in the history means they were dealt with.)


 * Why would anyone want to involve themselves in this environment? Most people do this in their free time for enjoyment, if the Wiki has an aspect that is not fun people do not want to be a part of it.

Again, our numbers say the opposite. This wiki is hugely popular. People obviously are not being driven away.

Lastly, if you wish to believe that "x is equally/more important than y" - go ahead. Its your right. But you should understand that there are people who will have an opposite view to you - and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. They are entitled to this belief - just as you are. There is nothing you can say that will change a person view - so accept it and move on. '''The only time this would ever becomes a problem is if one user treats another users as inferior - based on their favored namespace. Everyone is equal, so doing this breaks all sorts of policies. '''

This simply doesn't happen, and if it did the guilty party would be dealt with.