Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-76.19.72.55-20140919164907

First of all, Ulfric does actually care about his cause and his country and doesn't just want power, while Tullius doesn't give a hoot about the Nords or they're culture and clearly wants to drain Elisef's power so he can take the throne of Skyrim for himself.

Second, the empire supports the Aldmeri dominion, who amount other things, commit genocide, torture people, kill people, invade neutral countries and hate Talos, the best leader in Tamriel's history and Lorkhan, who created the universe itself. Ulfric does not work for the dominion, regardless of what imperial supporters may believe, and would gladly burn they're embassy to the ground.

Third, The empire themselves torture people, as seen in the first dungeon of Skyrim. They're justice system is brutal. Compare the way the imperial guards react to you committing a crime in oblivion to the way the hold guards react in Skyrim. The imperial guards don't give you any time to explain yourself, insult your race and threaten to kill you if you don't cooperate. And that was 200 years ago, before the white gold concordat was signed. Not to mention that they behead you even though you were not on the list at the beginning of Skyrim. The nord coad of law is backed off of chivalry and honor, while the imperial law code is grossly unjust and corrupt. Ulfric will change this.

Fourth, the empire WON the battle of the red ring. Titus moron II justified it by claiming that the empire's army had been weakened by the battle. While this is true, the dominion army in Cyrodil was completely destroyed. A weakened army VS an all-but-obliterated one, i wonder which one could have been victorious.

Fifth, Ulfric is NOT racist. While many of the Nords are, Ulfric isn't. He only disapproves of the dark elves because they refused to respect Nordic culture when they fled to Windhelm. The one dark elf who did bother to work his way up and contribute to socially (i forget his name) was allowed to own one of the largest houses in the city. He lets you join his rebellion regardless of what race you are, even if you're a high elf. And finally, it should be noted that while the dominion is slaughtering thousands of "outsiders" in Valenwood and sumurset, the Dunmer of Windhelm are (at most) being heavily taxed.

Finally, does anyone find it weird that there is no physical evidence to back up ulfric's "war crimes" at Markarth, as claimed by the book "The bear of Markarth", which was written by the way by an imperial scholar. 