User talk:Ned1230

Hello,, and Welcome to my talk page. Please feel free to post here. See all previous messages in my archive, but don't go to number 2; all messages have been restored from that archive. Tomorrow, I'm going to restore all messages in my other archive.

All in one go.
Ned,

Your edits are good, but please do them all in one go. Try and only hit publish once.

Regards,

Bronkiin (talk) 18:19, February 11, 2016 (UTC)

Will do, sorry about that.

18:21, February 11, 2016 (UTC)

ESO locations
Hey Ned, great work on the Landmarks (Online) page. I also wanted to let you know that we tend to organize ESO lists by faction, then by region, so Dominion, Covenant, Pact, and then the regions controlled by them as subheadings (neutral/DLC regions get their own section). That way readers can pick out the places for their faction more easily.

We have a lot of lists for ESO that just don't exist for some reason, so if you plan on sticking around it would be fantastic if you could work on those other ones too. I've been planning on doing them for a while now but I'm kind of lazy so that never happened, haha. So if you're interested just let me know. Thanks. Have fun editing! —Atvelonis (talk) 20:09, February 11, 2016 (UTC)


 * Ah, good to know. I would fix it, but actually, all the landmarks I've seen have no faction affiliation. However, I'll add a bit about that specifically to the page.


 * Also, I will be sticking around for a bit, so I might make some more lists. Sounds great! Thanks Atv.


 * 20:13, February 11, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Minor Vandalism
I've added it here. Atv will see it very soon and take all the appropiate action as he sees fit. Thanks for the revert and it's all being handled.

Regards,

Bronkiin (talk) 13:45, February 12, 2016 (UTC)

14:12, February 12, 2016 (UTC)
 * Great, thanks for that. I of course know of the VIP page, but for some reason I forgot about it :P.

Redirects
Hey Ned. In regards to the debacle here, redirects are a tough thing to understand especially because the old administration talked them up as wasteful or something in the past. They're very useful in cutting down on page size and improve fluency for editors. Some prominent examples would be the Timeline redirects I've made, so instead of writing 1E 2920 thousands of times, simply  1E 2920  does the same exact thing but is way more compact. It's a neat little trick that no one used to capitalize on for some reason. If you have any questions about this stuff or anything else I'm happy to answer. Thanks! —Atvelonis (talk) 05:30, February 13, 2016 (UTC)

Oh ok, I guess Shockstorm had a point then. Thanks for telling me! I'm still living in the past, so updates are always good. I won't go back specifically fix any redirect links anymore. Again, thank you for correcting me, Atv, since that had been a clear rule in my head. 05:37, February 13, 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah, sorry for not making that clear - should've explained that. --Shockstorm (talk) 18:20, February 13, 2016 (UTC)
 * No problem at all, no worries. 22:02, February 15, 2016 (UTC)

Bloodmoon Characters page
Hey Ned,

Please come see me in chat about the bloodmoon characters page if you have a second. Thanks!


 * So Crusader, what is it you wanna talk to me about the Bloodmoon page? 20:08, February 25, 2016 (UTC)

Stalls
I've just conferred with Atv, and we've decided to mark stalls separately. Stalls are named but not marked on the map. That is how we'll define them. Come to me if you identify anomalies or difficulties in terms of categorisation. Proceed as you were!

Regards,

Bronkiin (talk) 20:11, February 26, 2016 (UTC)


 * Alright, sounds good to me. Sorry for that, glad it's been cleared up. 17:40, February 29, 2016 (UTC)

Cleansing of the Fane
Thank you for fixing my edit of Cleansing of the Fane

Wtown101 (talk) 15:13, March 1, 2016 (UTC)Wtown101


 * No problem.
 * - 15:17, March 1, 2016 (UTC)

Guruzug
You just changed up the style of writing a bit and normally making it a bit longer, I wouldn't mind. But "residing" implies actually living there. And "Interactions" has been a sort of standardized header for the quests section on character pages.

Ikabite (talk) 18:43, March 3, 2016 (UTC)


 * Note that you don't use "Interactions" for location/item pages. For example you don't exactly interact with an inn, you interact with the people inside the inn, so you would just use "Quests" for the location page. —Atvelonis (talk) 18:56, March 6, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Congrats!
Thanks, I appreciate it. Say thanks back to Sajuuk for me as well. Regarding the slavers thing, I suppose it's a possibility, but before we go any further with categorization we should work out how to format it in infoboxes and everything first because it's currently not standardized. —Atvelonis (talk) 16:49, March 4, 2016 (UTC)

Books
Hey Ned,

The pages you added "Anonymous" to that you didn't change from unknown, did you check ingame to make sure that they don't have a known author? If the variable is only blank and you don't know about the author, it's {{Missing|Online, not that, so I'm checking to make sure. {{User:The Crusader of Truth/SigReal|06:21:27|March 09, 2016}}


 * Yeah, I know. They don't appear to have authors from what I saw. Anyway, thanks for giving me the heads up.


 * -{{Signature/Ned1230}} 18:31, March 9, 2016 (UTC)


 * Umm, could you pop by chat for a second? I may have to go soon, but I want to check up on something with you. Thanks, and sorry for the mystery air to the message. {{User:The Crusader of Truth/SigReal|06:56:55|March 09, 2016}}

Re: New Disambigs?
That's a possibility. It could definitely prove useful to users and it would boost our page count somewhat. However, I imagine the lists for some of the more common surnames would probably get pretty lengthy, so it might be difficult to organize or even expand fully in the first place. You should bring it up at the moot this Saturday and we'll vote on it. —Atvelonis (talk) 19:01, March 9, 2016 (UTC)

Re:CONGRATS!!
Thanks. I'm trying my best. Really though, what do you have against walruses? :P

Appearances Template
Hey Ned,

I have absolutely no clue what in tarnations you're doing with that Appearances template. However. I still want to say that you can feel free to use my sandbox to test any wiki wide stuff on it. Some of my mediawiki stuff may not quite be the exact same as here, but the test should be able to run smoothly. I'm proud to say I finally managed to clean it up today for the most part, so it shouldn't be too hard to use. If you do use it, but do all the pages you make under category Ned, then put that category under browse.

Still. I'm really curious to see what you're going to do with this.


 * Oh, and sorry for a separate message, but you should consider using <noinclude for your template.

New message
Hey Ned,

Thanks for reverting that edit on the red den nobleman article, i got confused when i was trying to delete the image i put in the gallery and didn't name it what i wanted it to be.

Cheers,

TessaVarzi (talk) 17:41, March 11, 2016 (UTC)TessaVarzi

Br Code
Oh yeah. Oops. I think I do remember him saying that a while back. My bad. (I legitimately forgot, as I mainly edit small stuff before the coffee kicks in as im getting ready for work). So... the other way doesnt work? Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 20:00, March 11, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Appearances Template
It's interesting, but only a marginal improvement. You would have to bring it up in the moot before we start using it, and yes we could do it without bots but that would require 40,000 edits... which is a huge number, and I really don't want to be focusing that much on extremely minor maintenance when we could be adding content. Before you even bring it up, you should fix the mentioned only parts though. —Atvelonis (talk) 20:06, March 11, 2016 (UTC)

Book pages
Hi Ned, please don't add extra capitalization to headings, we agreed a very long while ago not to do this. So it would be ==Known locations== rather than ==Known Locations==, for example. Obviously if it's a proper noun you would capitalize it but for the most part leave it lowercase. Also, if a location appears in Dawnguard on a book list you should add the template DG to the end of the line rather than the Dawnguard template, which is less compact. Thanks! —Atvelonis (talk) 15:04, March 14, 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, now I'm aware of those things. Sorry, I guess. My god, things are so confusing. Heh. There are far too many little things I get mixed up with or forget about, which is more than mildly annoying to say the least. Oh well, I guess I won't make those mistakes again.

15:07, March 14, 2016 (UTC)~

Interview!
Hey Ned, this has been a long time coming, but you've landed on my list of interview candidates. Should you accept, I just need you to copy/paste your answers (with the questions, as it makes my job way easier) onto my talk page. As always, I will leave the completed article here when I am finished.

1) How did you fall into our community and get so involved?

2) How long have you been playing the Elder Scrolls?

3) Where did you get the idea of making an Elder Scrolls Wikia Wikia?

4) Is it making any progress? How would you like to raise more awareness?

5) I read your interview with yourself while surfing through the blog section of your little pet project and I have to say, you should have came to me. What sort of blogs would you even make for that site?

6) I noticed my page is still sorely lacking...I know that it would be more convenient for me to write about myself, but then where is the fun of reading it? I want to see someone else's interpretation of my grand history here. If you need help, just look at my blogs! It's not so much a question as it is a request. Sajuuk's page is super detailed, but what about THE MOST IMPORTANT USER HERE?! Ahem...So do you think you could do that? Cheers mate.

Madman97 (talk) 16:40, March 17, 2016 (UTC)

Re:Apologies
Ok. Thanks for saying so. I have moments like that as well. --Shockstorm (talk) 19:58, March 17, 2016 (UTC)

Here you go!
Please enjoy the completed interview! I had a lot of fun writing it! http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Madman97/Madman_Tonight_with_Ned1230

Madman97 (talk) 13:54, March 18, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Skyrim: Quest Givers
I don't see why not. Just be sure to complete it. Also, I see you've been reworking the region categories for locations in Daggerfall a little bit; this is something I've been planning on doing for a while, but have never gotten around to, so thank you for starting it! However, you should be aware that when you have a more specific location category to an article, you should generally remove the broader one. So, for example, since Gothdale has Daggerfall: Dwynnen Locations, there is no need for Daggerfall: High Rock Locations anymore, as Dwynnen is a region within High Rock. Note that if there isn't a more specific category available, then you can just keep the broader one. So always keep the most specific location category that's possible. Thanks! —Atvelonis (talk) 00:12, March 19, 2016 (UTC)
 * Also, sidenote, do not ever remove the subheadings on Daggerfall location pages like you did here, and don't add links to them either as there are literally tens (or hundreds) of thousands of them. These are organized carefully by how they are in-game so removing the headings is just confusing and counter-productive. There is not much else to add to Daggerfall city pages so if it has the proper stuff in the infobox and the sublocations on the article it should not be marked as a stub. Be careful when editing stuff like that. —Atvelonis (talk) 00:54, March 19, 2016 (UTC)

Re: No cats for Skyrim articles
Well, currently we don't use quest giver cats for the ESO DLCs, but that is mostly only because we don't know who the quest givers in them even are. How about you come to the moot later this afternoon and we can talk about the whole thing then? And regarding the characters by location categories, we have them for the big cities like Whiterun, Solitude, etc. but I'm not sure why we don't have any for the smaller settlements. But we do need them for all those settlements, so go right ahead. —Atvelonis (talk) 16:18, March 19, 2016 (UTC)

Userbox
I don't know what that whole Trump userbox/"Idiots" category thing was about, and I'm supposed to be taking a break from the wiki right now, but I'm going to request anyway that you refrain from using terms like that in the future. If you really want a descriptive category for that userbox just put "Trump Supporters" or something. This whole thing seems more like a joke than an attack to me, but it might not appear that way to everyone, so just think a little more carefully about what you post before you actually do it. —Atvelonis (talk) 20:58, March 20, 2016 (UTC)

1) You're doing it yet again, and we're not interested in any more excuses. 2) When myself and others pointed out that this isn't the place for jokes, you told us to "calm down" and made it clear that you weren't interested in taking things seriously. I wouldn't care much except for the fact that you just lied in your message to Atv. --Shockstorm (talk) 20:46, March 21, 2016 (UTC)

Oh ok, won't do it again. Also, what did I lie about? What are you talking about? You didn't say "rah rah rah," but what else is there? 21:13, March 21, 2016 (UTC)

Thalmor
Hi, thanks for pointing out that it was generic Thalmor dialogue- I wasn't sure as I tend to kill them on-site so I never listen to their dialogue. I would like to offer some advice in asking that you don't include snippy comments in the edit summary though- a reason is suffice enough, there is no reason to antagonise other editors. I was once a regular editor here myself, I know how things work and if it hadn't been generic dialogue, that's where it would have gone until someone actually wrote a transcript of the dialogue- then it could be moved to a new dialogue section. Happy editing. -- {13:55, March 22, 2016 (UTC)}

Pyandonea
Hi Ned. That map is fake and shouldn't be included on the article. 109.76.198.82 02:13, March 25, 2016 (UTC)

User 109.76.198.82, The map correctly outlines Pyandonea, and is taken from a larger map of Tamriel supplied by Bethesda i believe. For all intended purposes, the image is an accurate depiction of Pyandonea, and as such can be used as an image on the site. If you wish to take this up further, put a message on one of the admins or forium moderators talk pages. Thanks Mechazod (talk) 02:20, March 25, 2016 (UTC)