Season Unending

Despite warnings about a dragon, the Jarl of Whiterun says that he can't help with the effort to defeat it unless the civil war is stopped. Only the Greybeards are in a position to hold a peace council. ==Objectives== *Talk to Arngeir *Talk to General Tullius *Talk to Ulfric Stormcloak *Talk to Arngeir *Take your seat *Negotiate a truce ==Walkthrough== The Dragonborn must talk to either Paarthurnax, Arngeir, or Esbern. Whomever is picked will say that they must talk to the Jarl of Whiterun to try and convince him to let them use Dragonsreach, which was originally designed to capture and house a dragon. ===Jarl of Whiterun=== The Dragonborn tries to enlist the aid of the Jarl Balgruuf; however, the Jarl will say that he cannot try to capture a dragon while Whiterun is under threat of attack. He says that if a peace treaty can be agreed between the Imperials and the Stormcloaks, he will help capture and hold a dragon. The Jarl will also suggest talking to the Greybeards, as both General Tullius and Ulfric Stormcloak highly respect them. Note that if the Dragonborn has already completed the Civil War questline, thus ending Skyrim's civil war, then this quest will not need to be completed. Regardless of whether Whiterun is under the rule of Balgruuf the Greater or Vignar Gray-Mane, the Jarl will agree to capture Odahviing without talking to the Greybeards, and the main questline will be continued. ===Getting the two sides to the table=== The Dragonborn will speak to the Greybeards, who will agree to help negotiate a truce. Arngeir will suggest the Dragonborn speak to both General Tullius and Ulfric Stormcloak, and extend an invitation to meet with the Greybeards and discuss the future of Skyrim. Note that if the Dragonborn has not yet chosen a side in the Civil War quest line, then upon speaking with both General Tullius and Ulfric the first time, there will be no dialogue option to tell either about the peace conference. Instead, after mentioning Helgen, each will assume that the Dragonborn wants to join their side. Each will direct them to their assistant (either Legate Rikke or Galmar Stone-Fist), and in most cases they will then end the conversation. Approaching each one a second time will now present the option to tell them about the Greybeards and the conference. After speaking to both parties, returning to Arngeir and speaking with him will allow the conference to begin. However, Delphine and Esbern will show up demanding entrance to the conference representing the Blades. Arngeir initially refuses, but is ultimately persuaded to permit them to join. ===Peace Treaty=== Once the peace conference has started, the Dragonborn is given many options, mostly having to do with the side taken in Civil War questline. ====Negotiation 1: Elenwen==== As soon as the negotiations begin, Ulfric raises objections about Elenwen even being involved in this council, saying how the Thalmor should have nothing to do with Skyrim's politics. Tullius or Ulfric will ask what the Dragonborn's thoughts are: #To agree with Tullius and keep Elenwen in the meeting. #To agree with Ulfric and eject Elenwen from the meeting. Either choice has no effect on the negotiations. ====Negotiation 2: Markarth or Riften==== The next item to discuss is giving up a major Hold. If the Dragonborn has sided with the Stormcloaks, General Tullius will demand that Riften be turned over to the Empire. Otherwise (either if sided with the Imperials or no side yet selected), Ulfric will demand Markarth be surrendered to the Stormcloaks. The opposing faction’s reaction depends on the state of the Civil War: The faction that controls Markarth or Riften asks the Dragonborn what they believe is a fair trade for the city. The answer is always one of three choices: #An exchange of a major Hold the opposition has. #An exchange of a minor Hold the opposition has. #Alternative dealing with choice in Civil War quest line (not available if no side has been chosen yet). The council goes along with whatever choice is made. The side that controls Markarth or Riften will be unhappy if it is bargained for a minor Hold. ====Negotiation 3/NA (Through Console Command): Minor Hold==== If a console command is used to do the mission when the Stormcloaks or the Imperials only have their capital left, the other side will down size their demand to a minor hold. Here the Dragonborn has the choice of giving up a minor hold to the Imperials or the Stormcloaks. There is no difference in the speech other than at the end. If a minor hold is given up, Tullius tells the Dragonborn of his displeasure. He does not use that speech if it is kept. The Stormcloaks will take the deal either way. ====Negotiation 4: Concessions==== It is now time for the faction that has been favored less (and thus “losing” the negotiations) to ask for additional concessions. For each demand, the Dragonborn can choose whether to agree to the concession. This continues until the side issuing demands runs out of concessions to request (which requires one to refuse all their demands). ====Conclusion==== Once the treaty is agreed, the quest is complete. After completing the peace treaty with both sides, the Civil War questline is halted until the main quest has been fully completed. If the Dragonborn has sided with the Stormcloaks and has liberated Falkreath in the quest line Liberation of Skyrim, in which the next objective is to liberate the Reach, then it is possible that after completing Season Unending, the "Liberate the Reach" objective will also be complete. Note that the Liberation quest line cannot be completed if the Dragonborn has a bounty in either Windhelm or Solitude. If the Dragonborn has sided with the Legion and decides to trade the Reach for the Rift, then the quest Compelling Tribute (Imperials) in the Civil War quest line is skipped. ==Journal== {| border="1" cellspacing="3" class="skqtable" ! scope="col" |Journal Entry |- | ''The Jarl of Whiterun won't help me capture a dragon as long as the civil war is raging. If I can get the Greybeards to host a peace council, I can try to convince the Imperials and the Stormcloaks to agree to a truce in order to defeat Alduin, who is a threat to both sides in the civil war. *Objective: Talk to Arngeir |- | The Jarl of Whiterun won't help me capture a dragon as long as the civil war is raging. Arngeir has agreed to host a peace council at High Hrothgar. I need to convince the Imperials and the Stormcloaks to agree to a truce in order to defeat Alduin, who is a threat to both sides in the civil war. *Objective: Talk to General Tullius *Objective: Talk to Ulfric Stormcloak |- | *Objective: Talk to Arngeir |- | *Objective: Take your seat |- | *Objective: Negotiate a truce |- | The Jarl of Whiterun wouldn't help me capture a dragon as long as the civil war was raging. Arngeir agreed to host a peace council at High Hrothgar. With Esbern's help, I persuaded General Tullius and Ulfric Stormcloak to agree to a truce in order to defeat Alduin, who is a threat to both sides in the civil war.'' * Quest complete |} ==Trivia== *Whether Paarthurnax has been killed or not will affect the dialogue between Delphine, Esbern and Arngeir during the Blades' request to attend the negotiations. *Evgiir Unslaad, or Season Unending is the Ancient Nordic term for war. This is revealed through dialogue with Arngeir, which further reflects his opposition to war and his pessimism about the usefulness of the peace treaty. *It is implied that Ulfric Stormcloak already knew Delphine before the events of Season Unending. While listening to Esbern, he asks Delphine if Esbern is with her, referring to her by name. There is no dialogue during the quest to suggest that the two are meeting for the first time in High Hrothgar. *Dual casting Frenzy coupled with Quiet Casting on the council can create chaos, causing them to fight against each other. All the participants, except for the Greybeards, are low-level, so they can be easily frenzied. Since all of them are marked as essentials, the fight can go on indefinitely, assuming the Dragonborn has the Magicka to keep casting Frenzy on them. ==Bugs== {| class="wikitable collapsible2 collapsed" style="width:100%; margin-bottom:0px; margin-top:1px;" |- sab="1147" ! sab="1148" | Click to see the list of bugs encountered |- sab="1149" | sab="1150" | * If the Dragonborn has started the quest to join either the Stormcloaks or the Imperials, it will be impossible to continue with the quest because there will be no dialogue box when they talk to the faction leaders making it impossible to tell them about the Greybeards' peace treaty. **This can be fixed by repeatedly tapping the activate button when speaking to Galmar or Ulfric. They will keep saying that a mission is ongoing. Upon completing the Battle for Whiterun, the option to talk to General Tullius and Ulfric Stormcloak becomes available again. It also is possible to talk to them when returning The Jagged Crown. ** To talk to Ulfric, the console command "SetStage MQ302 30" can be used after having already talked to General Tullius. ** To talk to General Tullius, the console command "SetStage MQ302 20" can be used after having already talked to Ulfric. ** joining either of the factions and speaking to the leader immediately afterwards will work around this. Note that this only works with General Tullius: Ulfric will just direct the Dragonborn to talk to Galmar. **Alternatively, if the Dragonborn has any outstanding "initiation" quests running, then completing them should allow talking to the appropriate leader. *If The Jagged Crown (for the Legion) has been started, Tullius will not be able to speak with the Dragonborn, instead sending him to join Legate Rikke. *Sometimes one or more of the original guards of the holds that were exchanged will still be inside the main city and the guard(s) will attack their new occupants. * If the negotiators stop talking and the Dragonborn is unable to talk, they should exit their seat or it will be impossible to continue the creation of the treaty. ** Using "setstage mq302 300" after the NPC's are seated at the table will complete the quest. Talking to Esbern should continue the quest after that. ** A previous save that has the older state of Season Unending can be reloaded to finish the quest. *The meeting may not start after the Dragonborn has taken a seat, **Staying seated and waiting 24 hours will trigger the meeting. If it still does not trigger, all guests should sit down after five to ten minutes of real time. **Leaving High Hrothgar and then coming back can also trigger the meeting. ** If the quest still does not begin, typing "setstage mq302 60" into the console can fix it. ** Making sure that both the Season Unending and The Fallen quests are selected, talking to Arngeir at the other side of the table, then finally walking over and take a seat and wait for an hour once seated, should trigger the meeting. * The Achievement/Trophy from the Civil War Quests can be missed because of how Season Unending plays out. If the favored faction gains one or both of the needed forts, the Dragonborn will not get credit, thus never unlocking the Achievement/Trophy. **This can be fixed by ensuring the opposing faction gets both forts, or completing that portion of the Civil War Quests before starting Season Unending. * Esbern may not speak. **Disabling then enabling him will wake him up. This can be done by opening the console, clicking on him, then typing "disable" and "enable". This may need to be repeated every time he stops walking around his seat. *Sometimes the Jarl of Whiterun does not require this quest and will allow the Dragonborn to trap a dragon even if the war is not yet finished, when all Stormcloak cities but Windhelm or all Imperial cities but Solitude have been captured. * Legate Rikke attacks the Dragonborn if they have committed several crimes, such as stealing horses at Imperial camps. **This can be solved by attacking her far away from the negotiation room until she's on her knees (since she is marked as essential, she cannot be killed), then quickly sprinting to the room to start the negotiations. The trick is not to let anyone else see Legate Rikke attack. *If The Forsworn Conspiracy hasn't been completed, it will be automatically be marked as complete if Markarth is surrendered to the Stormcloaks. However, the next quest, No One Escapes Cidhna Mine, will not appear in the Quests screen. *Sometimes, Season Unending will not complete gracefully, causing quest stages for both it and the overall civil war quest (id "CW") to not engage properly. For example: **Characters from the conference may endlessly walk up and down the stairs just outside High Hrothgar, not responding to the Dragonborn and not participating in any quest dialogue or events. If using the console to kill or forcibly return them to their home locations, they will simply walk back to the stairs and continue their endless loop (even walking across all of Skyrim to reach the steps). ***This can be solved by ensuring all finishing quest stages have been properly completed, specifically stages past 300. Check their status with "player.sqs MQ302" and activate stages with "setstage MQ302 ". As soon as the appropriate stage is triggered, all remaining characters will begin a long walk back to their home locations and will immediately be able to interact with the Dragonborn again. **Season Unending triggers stage 255 of the overall civil war quest ("CW"), a stage which is specially designed to stop the war while the peace conference is in session. When active, this stage puts a forced hold on all civil war combat quests (except for the Battle for Whiterun), preventing the selection of key dialogue options to trigger them. Stage 256 of CW releases this hold thus re-enabling the war, and should be automatically triggered when Season Unending completes. However, if the quest does not complete gracefully, the civil war may become stuck on permanent hold. *** This can be checked via "player.sqs CW" and fixed via "setstage CW 256". |} Бесконечная пора