User talk:TombRaiser

Hearthfire materials
What page can i go to to see materials for building in Hearthfire?


 * You can check the Homestead page for building materials and Furnishings page for indoor building materials. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  23:55, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

Enemies
Hi Tomb, I removed the enemies on locations as its already in the infobox, it was making many smaller articles look funny when there wasn't much to write on them. Is it really necessary to mention the enemies when they already are in the infobox? Unless there are something special you need to know about the enemies? :) EbonySkyrim (talk) 20:01, July 25, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I was wondering about that too. And having looking through other game location pages, mainly Skyrim (since I can't find a Locations (Morrowind) page (what?!) to compare by); Enemies aren't listed in articles, just in the infobox, so yeah, I think to keep it less redundant, it's better to leave it off of the article. What I think would improve these articles more is adding information on the locations sub-location rooms and mention the enemies one might encounter in such-and-such room. Then we wouldn't feel the need to add "filler" information in the article. Don't you think? Heh — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  20:17, July 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * Sounds fine with me.. I looked at the Style and formatting page and it does say that it's only needed if there is something special to add about an enemy that one might need to know in the forms of eliminate it. EbonySkyrim (talk) 20:43, July 25, 2013 (UTC)

I have a question related to this. Unmarked Locations often have a lot of odd NPCs that are not really characters so much. I'd like to use the Occupants header in those cases (you know, like bandit camps and raids). Bandits could be called enemies, but for these interactions I think it's useful to describe who all is at the scene. (I mean in the body, not in the info box) Emchartreuse (talk) 19:48, July 26, 2013 (UTC)

Message
Thank you for the info and links i'll use them

Missing Apprentices
Hey lady! I've been working on all these related pages to try and get them to jive with one another. There are way too many pages here! Take a look.

Broken Quest: Lost Apprentices
 * Lost Apprentices: Borvir
 * Lost Apprentices: Ilas-tei
 * Lost Apprentices: Rundi
 * Lost Apprentices: Yisra

I'm wondering if we can cut the individual pages for the broken quest and just have the one page about the broken quest. 5 pages is a lot of pages for a quest that doesn't exist, lol. What do you think? Also, I added Phinis' dialog and I'm not sure if it should be formatted in some special way. Let me know, thanks. <3

Emchartreuse (talk) 19:32, July 26, 2013 (UTC)

Empty...
Hey,

Looks like you're popular today :P Anyway, I was wondering if you knew anything about the page Empty. And guess what: It's empty! It was created by WikiaBot, so that's why I've refrained from deleting it... Kroq-gar78 (talk) 19:39, July 26, 2013 (UTC)

Bot
Hai can you come to chat for a minute o. o ?

Yatalu (talk) 21:47, July 26, 2013 (UTC)

Familiar
How should the Familiar page work? We both have a couple of edits but the page itself isn't linked in with the rest of the Skyrim:Creatures link board Caleb Ridgway (talk) 07:43, July 27, 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure what you are referring to when you say it's not linked in with the rest of the link board. If you mean the way the page is categorized, it's not a "real" creature but a conjured spell of the creature, so it's going to be categorized under Skyrim: Spells and Skyrim: Conjuration, and not Skyrim: Creatures. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  16:42, July 27, 2013 (UTC)


 * Couldn't it be put under Daedra since techinically it is one?

Blocking?
TombRaiser, is it possible to block a user from my blog. He is taking pleasure in harrassing me. (Rider (talk) 18:03, July 26, 2013 (UTC))


 * TombRaiser, per our previous conversation, if you visit my blog you can probably figure out who is causing me pain.  He seems to have made it his mission in life to denigrate me.  (Rider (talk) 11:48, July 27, 2013 (UTC))


 * Yes, I did see it, and I have already given Equilibrium a warning on his talkpage. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  16:42, July 27, 2013 (UTC)

Not very good at this
Hi Tomb, could you have a look at Dragonsword? I added a table and it was harder than I thought. I copied another table and then added the numbers in for the sword, but I'm not at all sure about the enchantment... I can't see how to get the right numbers for that in the Construction Set. It also doesn't say anything about levels, only calls it Dragonsword 01-06.. EbonySkyrim (talk) 15:18, July 28, 2013 (UTC)


 * Hey Ebony, I had a look in the CS myself to see if I could find the correct enchantments, and it turns out that all the enchantments and powers listed in that table are incorrect. Check out this a screenshot of the enchantments that I'm looking at so you can see that when pulling up the enchantment from a Level 1 Dragonsword the Absorb Fatigue is 10 pts and the Fire Damage is 5 pts and in the fire breath powers screenshot Level 1 power starts at 10 Fire Breath Damage. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  17:48, July 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, never thought to look there in the CS.. but there are only 3 for the lesser power, and they say apprentice, journeyman, journeyman. How do one know the levels if it only say 01-06 on the swords? I've changed on the table to correct numbers. EbonySkyrim (talk) 18:12, July 28, 2013 (UTC)


 * This is much easier to explain using screenshots :P, so I'll link to one more. This one uses a script to tell you which sword will receive which dragon breath power. As you can see, if the sword is Dragonsword5 through Dragonsword6, it will receive the 3rd dragon breath power, DLCBattlehornDragonswordPower3 (which is 30pts fire damage with the area of 10). Ignore the whole lesser power, and they say apprentice, journeyman, journeyman, that doesn't factor in anything specific, since you get the sword based on your level, not your level in magic. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  19:32, July 28, 2013 (UTC)


 * One more edit...If you are looking to verify the levels you go into "LeveledItems" in the "Items" menu, and look for "DLCBattlehornDragonswordLL" there you will see the leveled list. It shows Level 1-4 gets Dragonsword01, 5-9 get Dragonsword02, 10-14 get Dragonsword03, and so on. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  19:44, July 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks Tomb, there are still many things to learn about the CS :) I'll make the necessary changes. EbonySkyrim (talk) 19:48, July 28, 2013 (UTC)


 * Glad to help! :) We need more people to learn more about the CS and CK. So, I'm happy to help you learn more about it. Here's another little tip, if you're looking for something in the CS/CK that is used by the object, in this case what else is using "Dragonsword01"? You can right click on the weapon, ie: Dragonsword01 and select "Use info" and it will show you a list of anything that uses that object. That is how I found the leveled list, and the enchantments that are used by the sword. ;) — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  19:53, July 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * Great :) Then to another question I have thought about, last one this time. What's the difference between Ref ID and Base ID? I can't find the Ref ID anywhere when I add the other to NPCs, I'm sure it's someting simple. EbonySkyrim (talk) 20:04, July 28, 2013 (UTC)

Questions
I'm working on Tribunal book articles at the moment, and have a couple of quick questions:


 * 1) There's an item titled "Private Notes -- DO NOT READ" is that acceptable for an article title? Or should I tone it down a bit and use "Private Notes - Do Not Read"?
 * 2) Same question, for a note titled "WARNING!!!".
 * 3) There are seven very similar, yet different books that are all titled "Old Dwemer Book". They're more or less junk loot - there's almost no content, they serve no purpose, are not related to any quests, and they're all found in the same ruins. The content on all of them reads: "[This book appears to be written in an unknown Dwemer language. From the schematics, it appears to be a manual on ________.]" The player does not actually see any schematics, so that's the content in its entirety. Should these be grouped into one article, or be separate articles?

Regards, 00:57, August 1, 2013 (UTC)

PS: Great job to you and others who have been working on the Dwemer article!

TES Anthology Press pack
Hi Tombraiser,

Greetings from Nukapedia: The Fallout Wiki.

We're on the official Zenimax/Bethesda press list, so we get access to press kits and annoucements as they happen.

I've just in the past few minutes had the following email sent from Zenimax:


 * We’re pleased to announce The Elder Scrolls® Anthology. For the first time in the history of the award-winning series, Bethesda presents The Elder Scrolls® in one complete PC collection. Arriving on retail shelves September 10, 2013 for $79.99, The Elder Scrolls Anthology features all five critically-acclaimed games, plus official add-ons – packaged together in an exclusive premium collector’s set. A full list of contents is below.

The Elder Scrolls Anthology includes:
 * The Elder Scrolls Arena
 * The Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall
 * The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
 * Tribunal
 * Bloodmoon
 * The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
 * Knights of the Nine
 * Shivering Isles
 * The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
 * Dawnguard
 * Hearthfire
 * Dragonborn
 * Five Physical Maps detailing the lands of Tamriel, Iliac Bay, Morrowind, Cyrodiil, and Skyrim.

The official site is here

I've uploaded the images from the press pack to your wiki. Not being familiar with how you do things around here, I've uploaded em all to one category Category:Elder Scrolls Anthology Press Pack images for you to use as you see fit. I've tried to follow most of the rules on your upload page, apologies if there are any mistakes.

There is also a fact sheet available in a doc format. Its mostly a brief into to each of the games (1 paragraph each). It does however give a price of $US79.99 £49.99 / €59.99 / 89.99 AUD and a release date of 10 September.

Enjoy. Agent c (talk) 22:36, August 1, 2013 (UTC)


 * Also recieved another annoucement, placed here in full. There will be some very deep discounts on TES titles on steam on Saturday only. Agent c (talk) 22:57, August 1, 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks I'll make a news blog announcement about it. :) — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  22:58, August 1, 2013 (UTC)

Vandalism
On the Amren page, there was this.

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Amren?diff=1004415&oldid=1001640


 * Thanks. Taken care of. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!
 * There's this now.
 * There's this now.


 * Now this. I already undid it though.

Pickleseller (talk) 06:16, August 4, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, I saw. Blocked. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  04:57, August 5, 2013 (UTC)


 * http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/The_Lusty_Argonian_Maid?diff=1032684&oldid=1014659
 * http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Septim_(Coin)?diff=1032699&oldid=1016223

Potion of Minor Well-being
Hi, yesterday I added the Potion of Minor Well-being to Console Commands (Skyrim)/Alchemy. The ID that I put for it was 0401AADD but you canged it to xx01AADD. I'm new here and I don't know what that means so could you explain it me?

Typhlosion24 (talk) 19:07, August 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * XX indicates the load order of DLC or mods. The first two digits will not always be the same depending on which DLCs/mods you load first. So, that is why "xx" is used. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  20:28, August 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * Ohh I see. DB was fourth in my plugins list so the first two digits were 04. But if I were to change the load order of DB after making a save where I have the item 0401AADD, would it change the item address to whatever the new order is? or would the item appear as missing in that save? 21:58, August 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * If you changed Dragonborn's load order to be in the 3rd spot, the ID will change to 0301AADD. Changing the load order won't assume an item is missing, because the remainder of the ID is still the same. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  22:14, August 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh OK, thanks.   22:20, August 3, 2013 (UTC)

Game names / leads
I missed the boat for the consensus on game names in leads - is it considered closed after a month without new comments? (I just added the consensus track board to my follows so I won't miss new topics.)

I really hate to say this, but after disambiguating at least a thousand links, I believe that not consistently including the game name in brackets is problematic. I fear that it is too late now, but I think it might be worth considering for future articles for two reasons:
 * 1) Doing so eliminates the game name in the lead issue by making it clear and immediately obvious at the top of the page.
 * 2) It also ensures that with future game releases there is no need to continually create disambig pages and fix old links. Here's a random example to explain: if Amulet of the Ansei were Amulet of the Ansei (Oblivion), and it reappears in Online or other future games, there would be no need to rename the original article and disambiguate links. I see it as a way to be prepared for the future in addition to conveying crucial information immediately.

That aside, has anyone experimented with adding the game name to templates in x-small font? This may need some tweaking, but it conveys the general idea:

It may not be perfect, but perhaps worth considering? Regards, 00:59, August 4, 2013 (UTC)


 * I wasn't suggesting that we go back, I agree that is it way too much work to change everything that has been established. When I said the future articles I was thinking about what is coming with Online. I do think that we are shooting ourselves in the foot by having to go back and make changes to thousands of articles with every new game release in addition to getting the new content up, but there's pros and cons to everything, regardless of how it is done. ;) I am certainly not someone one who wants to impose my opinion, I find it difficult enough to even bring up subjects like this, and would much prefer to write articles rather than to argue the pros and cons of how things could be done.


 * Anyhow, since the consensus is closed I have no intention of bring up the inclusion of the game name in infoboxes. It is a possibility to consider at some point, and I'm sure more experiences editors can come up with something better than what I put together in a couple of minutes. :) But there's absolutely no reason why it needs to be now. Happy editing! Regards, 19:24, August 4, 2013 (UTC)


 * I was just wondering - is there any system to announce changes to policy or SF after a consensus has been reached that I could follow? I started following the board so I'll be aware of new topics, but it would be nice to know the results of the discussions once topics are closed. Similarly, is there a list of projects that need completing somewhere? I'm willing to help out when there are big jobs that need to be done and require a team effort. I guess I'd be more of aware of this stuff if I hung out on the IRC again, but honestly I'm not a good multitasker, and when I was on there often for a while my productivity went down. It's already difficult enough for me to focus with the kids, wife, dog, and other sources of distraction around the house. ;) 00:55, August 5, 2013 (UTC)

Prophet quest
hi do u know how to get past the quest the prophet cus im stuckDragonborn rules (talk) 10:21, August 4, 2013 (UTC)


 * You'll have to be more specific as there are two versions of that quest. You can always ask your question in the Skyrim forum if you're looking for a quick answer to gameplay questions. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  18:57, August 4, 2013 (UTC)

Timeline
Hello,

AutoBlood just ran the idea by me of putting the table of contents on the right on the Timeline page, since it's simply a huge TOC (and a huge article). I though it'd ask you before I do it, since it's a fairly "high-traffic" and important article. Kroq-gar78 (talk) 00:30, August 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I guess so, if it will make it a difference. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  00:34, August 6, 2013 (UTC)

Walkthrough
This is probably a very stupid question, but I want to make sure I'm on the same page as everyone else. When we are discussing trying to avoid a walkthrough in location articles, are we talking about quest-specific information, or descriptions of walking through the location (e.g. A trapped chest containing X is found in the northeast corner. A trapdoor leading to the lower lever is hidden under the rug.)? 02:36, August 7, 2013 (UTC)


 * Quest specific walkthroughs on location articles should be avoided. :) — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  02:39, August 7, 2013 (UTC)

DwemerBot
Hey,

It looks like DwemerBot isn't removing the space before the template when it's removing them. It's nothing major, but it's just a little irritating :P Also, it kind of opens the way for badge hunters, almost what Kittibear90 was getting to, but it seems she stopped. Kroq-gar78 (talk) 14:48, August 7, 2013 (UTC)

New Poll
Updating new poll this month? Im thinking either favorite antagonist: Jagar Tharn, Dagoth Ur, Almalexia, Mannimarco, "Zurin Arctus?", Hircine, Mehrunes Dagon, Jyggalag, Umaril, Alduin, Harkon, Miraal and any other bosses you can think of...

Or favorite Pantheon: Altmer Pantheon, Bosmer pantheon, Cyrodilic pantheon, The Tribunal Temple, The Daedra, Elsweyr pantheon, Skyrim pantheon, Yokuda Pantheon. Just a suggestion :3 21:33, August 7, 2013 (UTC)


 * There would actually need to be pages for said pantheons for that one to work. Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 13:20, August 9, 2013 (UTC)

Hey, Um...
You should check out this. Just sayin'. :p Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 13:21, August 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * D: What have you done?! Now I'm part of the RP! Well, I'm just going to sit back and watch. :P — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  17:02, August 9, 2013 (UTC)

Quest rewards cat.
Hey, I have another weird question for you: I was wondering if Quest Rewards categories are intended for any item that can be received as a quest reward, or items that can only be acquired as a quest reward? Thanks! 20:38, August 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * The way I see it, it's any item that is rewarded for completing a quest. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  20:49, August 9, 2013 (UTC)

Spam blogs
im just letting you know i spotted 2 blogs advertising louis vuitton bags, and its not as a joke it was literally an add with links to the websites. just a heads up. Equillibrium (talk) 06:12, August 12, 2013 (UTC)Equillibrium


 * Yes, I just saw it and now both blogs have been deleted and the account is blocked. Next time something like that is spotted and not seen by anyone else, just edit the blog and add the template to it, so it will show up in the "Candidates for Deletion" category. — TombRaiser   SPEAK!  06:26, August 12, 2013 (UTC)

Refugee Camp
Hi Tomb, I'm note sure what to do with this one - Refugee Camp. I've looked in the CS and there is no place called this, I can find some of the tents on the location but no camp. It is also called Kvatch on the ingame map. But there is of course already an article of Kvatch. Any ideas? EbonySkyrim (talk) 19:57, August 13, 2013 (UTC)


 * If I may interject here, the Refugee Camp is the temporary post set up by the Kvatch Guards during the quest where you enter the first Oblivion Gate in Kvatch. Hope this helps. — AutoBlood  Talk  20:02, August 13, 2013 (UTC)


 * I suggest merging this with the main Kvatch page. Perhaps as a sub-location (which it technically isn't, but... :p) or new header. Especially if its marked on the map under Kvatch. Jimeee (talk) 20:04, August 13, 2013 (UTC)


 * Ok, I'll merge it with Kvatch or... maybe think about it for a while.. :) EbonySkyrim (talk) 22:28, August 13, 2013 (UTC)


 * Ok, I can either merge it with the Kvatch page or rename the page to Kvatch: Refugee camp. Even though it is a temporary camp it is there all the time, not just during the main questline. EbonySkyrim (talk) 22:30, August 14, 2013 (UTC)


 * Since there really aren't any sublocations to cover in Kvatch, I would go with naming the page "Kvatch: Refugee Camp" and keeping it listed under the "Points of interest" header on the Kvatch page. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  22:39, August 14, 2013 (UTC)

Fury
Hey, I wanted to fix a link on Altmer (Skyrim) but it is locked. If you have a moment please disambig the link to Fury.

I also noticed that someone created an article for Imperial Pantheon and not long after somebody turned it into a redirect. The other pantheons have their own articles, so I don't know if you want to do anything about that. Regards, 17:07, August 14, 2013 (UTC)


 * Judging from the comparison of information on both pages, the information is pretty much identical on the Nine Divines page as it was on the Imperial Pantheon page. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  22:49, August 14, 2013 (UTC)


 * That's fine. I thought it was a little odd that other pantheons have proper articles while Imperial is a redirect & just wanted to make sure someone was aware. :) 21:46, August 15, 2013 (UTC)

Cats
Is it normal for people to be categorizing Bloodmoon articles in Morrowind categories? 21:40, August 15, 2013 (UTC)


 * The only separate list for DLC that I see is for Dragonborn, and all the other DLC lists are either listed under then main game's list category (mostly in Morrowind) or non-existent (Shivering Isles and the rest).


 * It might be worth separating the lists by game and DLC to remain consistent with how we categorize all other pages, even if the category will only have a few pages.


 * On that note, I need to add another update to the CT about categories. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  21:56, August 15, 2013 (UTC)

22:56, August 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * There's a lot of categories for both Oblivion and Morrowind expansions that have yet to be created. I often see expansion pack articles categorized in their parent's game categories because an equivalent expansion-specific category does not exist. I've never removed them because I don't know if we are really interested in developing a more complete categorization system for expansions or not. For items such as BM and TR weapons, all we have is one-handed, two-handed, and marksman, which I created myself, and am not sure if I should have. Is it worthwhile to duplicate the subcategories we have for MW?


 * Regarding the categories for weapon types and skills, I can see how leaving these items listed under the parent game category is appropriate, because the type and skill come from the main game and not the DLC (i.e., adding Morrowind: Two-Handed to a Bloodmoon weapon page, instead of Bloodmoon: Two-Handed).


 * I believe that separating certain pages by the DLC category would be a benefit rather than having it lumped in with the main. This is something that I addressed in my recent posting in the CT about categories. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  23:56, August 15, 2013 (UTC)


 * I suppose it is just a matter of perspective. Not that my opinion matters, but I have a different point of view: that items added by an expansion should not be mixed in with the vanilla game. I'll check out the CT. Thanks, 00:11, August 16, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes your opinion matters ;) I would like if more users gave feedback on changes that we may need to make. If others feel the same way that you do about having all expansions listed under their own category, then that is something that would be considered. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  00:34, August 16, 2013 (UTC)

Infobox
On what page/pages did I remove infoboxes? Murkywater2 (talk) 23:57, August 17, 2013 (UTC)

Removed images?
I was just curious as to why you removed images from some of the articles. The explanation you provided was "removed UI/HUD", but I don't understand what that means. Was there some copyright issue that those images were infringing? Again, it's no big deal - I can't contribute images anyway since I can't get anything from a PS3. Cubears (talk) 15:28, August 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * I removed those images because they are not in compliance with our image policy. They contain UI (User Interface) and HUD (Heads Up Display). These images have been in an image maintenance category for quite a while now, and no one has replaced them. Now that they are no longer up, other users who are able to provide quality images that adhere to our image policy can upload new images in place. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  19:14, August 19, 2013 (UTC)

Furnishings
Hi Tomb, I saw your images on Furnishings. They look really nice. But I had one question, I was looking through them and I found one thing I found strange. The images of the Mounted Elk Head seem to be wrong. The first image looks like it has small antlers on it, but you placed it at the recipe of the large antlers and the other way around. I hope you'll understand what I mean, I tried to explain it as clear as possible but I noticed I could not translate what I had in mind, into English ;) 10:23, August 21, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yup, you were right. They were in the wrong spot. I fixed it now. Thanks for letting me know. :) — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  16:59, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

Reliable sources with an article as their subject
Wikipedia has a firm rule against using Wiki articles as sources. However, a reliable source that is also the subject of a wiki article, is still a reliable source. Night-Eye (Morrowind) and many other articles have had the reliable source: The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind Construction Set, removed. There are four options available at this point, as I see it. One, as you may gather, I find unacceptable, which is to leave the change. Another is to restore the links to The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind Construction Set as they were. Another is to replace the text without a link, which I am not in favor of. And a fourth is have text with no link, accompanied by a link to the article, something near the fashion of:. Thank you for your consideration. VvAnarchangelvV (talk) 00:58, August 25, 2013 (UTC)


 * This is not Wikipeida, so I don't understand what you mean by Wikepedia has a rule against using Wiki articles as sources.


 * About the removal of CS/CK references, not every article needs to have every single sentence, bullet point, stat, or trivia sourced as "found in the CS/CK." All stats come from there and in-game play.


 * Anyhow, this had already been addressed and decided that we would do away with the Construction Set and Creation Kit reference on every piece of information, unless there is a dispute on certain information that would require it. Such a page that needed the CK references would be Alea Quintus.


 * Sorry if this is not the solution you were looking for. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  01:41, August 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * That there should be a default consideration of material as coming from either in-game sources or the CS/CK is a valid rationale. And it would be a considerable amount of work to put in references for the CS/CK. I retract my suggestion. But I will state for the record, that the default could be, in-game sources, and that distinguishing things as from the CS/CK would give them additional validity.
 * I did not mean Wikipedia is the standard here; I just hypothesized (wrongly, it seems) that its rule was the basis for the removal. Thanks for your answer, and its explanation. VvAnarchangelvV (talk) 03:09, August 25, 2013 (UTC)

Drothmeri
Hi Tomb, I'm on Mehrunes' Razor and there was a lot of pages missing... but should I do pages for each of the Drothmeri Soldier/Recruit/Veteran, they are currently together on the page Drothmeri. Should I rename the page or leave this one for a general description of all three? I'm not sure so I wanted to ask what your opinion is. There is a Drothmeri Army page already too that I can add more info on. EbonySkyrim (talk) 21:08, August 25, 2013 (UTC)


 * Hey Ebony, Since we already have a page for Drothmeri Commander and Drothmeri Steward on separate pages, I see no reason to not also have the other three Drothmeri on separate pages too. They are members of the Drothmeri Army, so the Drothmeri page would be redundant to keep in this case. Listing the Drothmeri Soldier/Recruit/Veteran on the Drothmeri Army page would be a good idea too. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  23:04, August 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I was thinking the same but I was a bit tired last night and forgot it.. I didn't find some of these pages at first as they where not categorized. Anyway, I'll do it. I had to change the link in the NPC template too, the NPCs. Should this be under each NPC who are in those groups, not sure when these kind of templates should be used? EbonySkyrim (talk) 18:11, August 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that's fine about the change to the NPCs template. Honestly, I didn't know we still used that template, so I think that is also something that we need to look into, if we need it or if we just need to update it. Great job with all the pages you've been working on lately, it's good to see there are still a few people out there tidying up the older pages. :) — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  21:20, August 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, it has been fun doing them all. I saved this plug in to the last as it was a lot to add. Now I only have 2 pages left, the quest and the location. :) EbonySkyrim (talk) 22:29, August 26, 2013 (UTC)

Spell base costs
MAY I ask how i was wrong on both the 'dragonhide' and 'mass paralysis' i have nothing on that could lower the number or any perks affecting it. as im looking at it now it says 519 for dragonhide and 587 for mass paralysis. can you please tell me the actuall number if possible?0701132326 (talk) 21:06, August 27, 2013 (UTC)MistBreaker


 * You were wrong because the Creation Kit said so. The CK is the only way to validate information. Obviously both of you saw different things while claiming you had no buffs. That is why we use the data found in the CK, to verify, and you both were wrong. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  21:23, August 27, 2013 (UTC)


 * ok so now heres were the problem is.. the creation kit is obviously outdated  if i can confirm that with no buffs and a second account both said 519 for dragonhide and 587 for mass paralysis for the PS3 System. then is the creation kit still correct?0701132326 (talk) 01:24, August 28, 2013 (UTC)