Board Thread:Consensus Track/@comment-3076045-20150505180540/@comment-26197005-20150506170018

Good morning,

As usuall, I have a lot to say regarding this. So, get some coffie... Back? Ok, let's get started shall we?

(My points are in no specific order)

A) "So can you explain to me why some random user's bot is allowed on the Wiki, but Sajuuk's is for some reason not? I don't know, that sounds a little unfair to me." SuperSajuukdid not recieve permison to use his bot, that is the crux of the issue there. He simply used it. Corey is not actually some random user, but an admin on the Community wiki. Wikia is far more than just our wiki, and as an admin on the Community wiki Corey is a member of this wiki. More over the Community wiki is intended as the place where all of the wikis meet. That way members from the various parts of Wikia can be a whole, which is greater than the some of its parts. By offering us the use of his bot Corey is very much so "just doing his job". How so? Simple, the bot of a non-TESwiki member who is an admin on Wikia can be trusted and used without any politics. This should tell us something my friends, that the wikia powers and community feel that we need such a solution. Think on that.

B) Despite the clear and urgent need for this community to discuss the Sajuuk incident, this is not the place for it. Nor, is that productive. In a very real sense, this is what SuperSajuuk wanted: A bot to get these things done. To oppose the use of Bots because SuperSajuuk was banned for three days for not having permision to use his is not in the spirit of progress or reform. Instead, if you feel strongly about that issue, PLEASE start a consensus about it! Or, a thread where it can be discussed. But, do not expect that to be super fun... Consider that there are members of this community who had conserns about SuperSajuuk's apparent desire for more power and authority, and that they were shocked when they found out that he had violated the rules of not TESwiki, but Wikia when he used a bot without permision. Wikia provides for a permenant ban without even a so much as a by your leave in such a case. Yet, you can clearly see that was not what was done here. Moderation in Moderation, eh?

C) Ridgid Generic does need to stop being so rigidly generic.

D) Does anyone need a bot to contribute to TESwiki? No. But TESwiki needs a bot to do certin administartive tasks which due to the size of the site and number of pages would be impossible to do manually. Let me stress this, I don't need a bot, and neither does Codecheatchamp, but the Wiki does. Thus the wiki community has offered us one. That way no one single user can abuse the poewr of the bot, take the bot withem and go home (like Cartman, or old Admins...), no one gets upset that so-and-so has a bot and i dont, no one has worries that such-and-such user who I don't like has a bot and may misuse it, etc.,.

So, why did an Admin on the community site offer us the use of "his" bot? Because we need a bot, and we are having trouble playing nicely with others. This to me is a red flag. We are a community! He is from the Community site! DANGER WILL ROBINS! DANGER! DANGER!

I say: yes, we need this bot. I say: Thank you Corey for offering us a way out of the whos bot is it anyway dead-end...

Nomar, the Nomarian