The Elder Scrolls Wiki:Moot/Log 2015 October 31

Do we want to begin, or wait a minute? 4:00 Timeoin you cant raise it then :P if its uncontroversial ;) 4:00 Bronkiin Oh. :( 4:00 G0LD3NF1RE Guess we could wait a min 4:00 RenzXVI We all need to have the same deodorants. Nirnroot based. 4:00 G0LD3NF1RE Hi Tim 4:00 Timeoin (I am joking btw) 4:00 Bronkiin I know xD 4:00 Kora Stormblade :) 4:00 Bronkiin Same. 4:00 Timeoin g'day Gold :) 4:00 Cheatcodechamp I hate the waiting, 4:01 Kora Stormblade what if the waiting hates you? 4:01 Cheatcodechamp Also, remember that we have nominataions for the quote, image, and poll. 4:01 G0LD3NF1RE Who used to always say "Howdy" 4:01 Cheatcodechamp So do those all today 4:01 G0LD3NF1RE Was it Blaidd? 4:01 Timeoin I think so, yeah 4:01 Bronkiin I always forget the nominations. 4:01 G0LD3NF1RE Lol 4:01 Bluesonic1 Same XD 4:01 Atvelonis I made one for image iirc 4:01 Bronkiin Actually, make that two ideas I have to raise now. 4:02 Starkiller131 4:02 Timeoin Special:LonelyPages?limit=500&offset=0 :( 4:02 Cheatcodechamp Ok, lets start. Bronkiin, you have an item? 4:02 G0LD3NF1RE Before the moot starts remember to vote MOTM, FA, Feature Image, Feature quote and on the Poll :P 4:02 Bronkiin Ok, Saj for Admin? xD No, seriously. 4:03 Timeoin lmfao 4:03 Atvelonis TES:FAN 4:03 Timeoin Which one? ;) 4:03 RenzXVI I'd vote for Bluesonic1. 4:03 Atvelonis TES:GAN TES:Featured Image 4:03 Timeoin I would vote for Blue as well 4:03 Bluesonic1 Nope :) 4:03 Timeoin and have told her as much :D 4:03 Bronkiin At the end of each Moot, I think we should take five minutes to review how motions from previous Moots have been acted out. 4:03 Atvelonis TES:Quote of the Week The Crusader of Truth has joined the chat. 4:03 Kora Stormblade wb fgh o/ 4:03 G0LD3NF1RE The Elder Scrolls Wiki:Poll 4:03 Timeoin she said she cant, because Aussies are cray crazy ;) 4:03 The Crusader of Truth Hey guys. Sorry I'm late o/ 4:03 G0LD3NF1RE Sup Crusader Starkiller131 has left the chat. 4:03 Bronkiin This will cover Blue's point about stuff from Moots not getting followed up on. Starkiller131 has joined the chat. 4:04 Cheatcodechamp We have been slow to get some of the more recent items done. 4:04 Bluesonic1 Yeah I was wondering what was gonna happen with that CT lol 4:04 Bronkiin Not here Blue xD 4:04 Cheatcodechamp We have the tasklist, that is meant to be both a reminder and a hint that others can help with those at times. 4:04 Starkiller131 Sajuuk, eh. 4:04 Cheatcodechamp I do a lot of it, but my new job keeps me busy 4:04 Bronkiin I think a bit more, just to remind ourselves at the end of each Moot, would keep us on track. The poll nominations, for example. FI and quote on the mainpage. 4:05 G0LD3NF1RE Which only i have voted for :< 4:05 Starkiller131 Hell let's go all out and make jigsaw admin. Ok, I'm done. 4:05 Bronkiin Any thoughts? 4:05 Cheatcodechamp Would not hurt, but we also need to make sure that it is not just the admins doing some of this stuff, Tim is always busy, I am working 3:30 to 4 this week, and Atve can only do so much to 8 The Crusader of Truth has left the chat. 4:05 Bronkiin Agreed. The Crusader of Truth has joined the chat. 4:06 Atvelonis Internet was also out since Thursay for me sooo 4:06 Cheatcodechamp am I am Noir has left the chat. 4:06 Starkiller131 Tasklist? 4:06 Bronkiin But I'm just proposing something at the end of each moot to remind ourselves what needs doing. 4:06 Cheatcodechamp Would not hurt 4:06 Starkiller131 I need stuff to do, Xd 4:06 Bronkiin And then, if needs be, decide who'll do it. 4:06 Bluesonic1 Isn't that kinda what the weekly update on the forum is for? It has a moot summary after all 4:06 Starkiller131 I got free time out the ass Xd 4:06 Cheatcodechamp I can send you are wikis tasklist Star, always something to do I am Noir has joined the chat. 4:06 Bronkiin That's to tell the community, Blue. What I'm proposing is a more practical reminder. 4:07 G0LD3NF1RE Bluesonic1, he means talk about previous moot topics and how they have worked in the end of this moot I think 4:07 Starkiller131 Yay, that'd be great. :) 4:07 Bronkiin @G0ld thanks :) 4:07 Cheatcodechamp The summary is the current week, a brief follow up of last week may help, assuming its not just two or three people doing these items. 4:07 The Crusader of Truth " Moot Goals " ? 4:07 Starkiller131 I need to start editing insanely. ...again 4:07 Atvelonis moot tasklist fgh 4:07 Bronkiin Fgh? 4:07 Cheatcodechamp The Elder Scrolls Wiki:Moot/Tasklist 4:08 Atvelonis crusader=fgh 4:08 Bronkiin I know xD 4:08 Starkiller131 Xd 4:08 Bronkiin I was asking what he meant. 4:08 Cheatcodechamp Ok, it seems open and close enough, are we ok for me calling a vote? 4:08 Bronkiin Yeh, not many have commented though... 4:09 Starkiller131 Brb send me the task list later CCC. 4:09 Cheatcodechamp All in favor of adding a Moot follow up at the end of the moots? 4:09 Bronkiin (+) 4:09 Timeoin
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4:09 Bluesonic1 (+) 4:09 Cheatcodechamp (+) 4:09 Timeoin (support) 4:09 G0LD3NF1RE ((+)) 4:09 Timeoin thats better :P 4:09 Atvelonis (+) 4:09 G0LD3NF1RE (support) 4:09 Cheatcodechamp 6-0 4:09 RenzXVI (+) 4:10 The Crusader of Truth (Support) 4:10 G0LD3NF1RE 8-0-0 then 4:10 I am Noir (yes) Starkiller131 has left the chat. 4:10 Cheatcodechamp 9-0 Ok, I think we cal call it 4:10 Timeoin not decisive enough ;) 4:10 Cheatcodechamp Ok, do we have other items, or can I move to my crazy plan 4:10 Timeoin to uncertain :P 4:11 G0LD3NF1RE Your "crazy plan"? >o> 4:11 Bluesonic1 Ooh crazy plan 4:11 Bronkiin How crazy? xD 4:11 Timeoin 4:11 Cheatcodechamp Its not that crazy, just trying to get you all excited. 4:11 The Crusader of Truth This should be interesting 4:11 Timeoin (Remember that time I took the site offline for a day? ... and we INCREASED our community? :P ) 4:11 G0LD3NF1RE \o/ 4:12 Timeoin ... good times :P 4:12 Bronkiin The suspense is killing me. 4:12 G0LD3NF1RE We defeated SOPA :P 4:12 Timeoin That we did :P 4:12 G0LD3NF1RE Only us 4:12 Cheatcodechamp I figured we have no planed items, we are meant to do things to help the wiki, we have a few articles that have maintenance templates that we can discuss. 4:12 G0LD3NF1RE CoD wiki... Pffffff. No one goes there anyway 4:12 Cheatcodechamp Like the split and merge articles. 4:12 Shockstorm it was mostly be tho gold 4:12 G0LD3NF1RE :P 4:12 Bronkiin I though it would be fun. 4:12 Shockstorm 4:12 Cheatcodechamp Category:Articles to be Split 4:12 Timeoin and wikipedia ... thats not a bit wiki ;) 4:13 G0LD3NF1RE Ofc Shockstorm 4:13 Cheatcodechamp These articles have been marked for some time, I think we should comb them and handle some of these, clean up and stuff What do you all say? TheKillTimeXD has joined the chat. 4:13 G0LD3NF1RE We could never have defeated the big bad empire of SOPA without your crazy panda CHIM 4:13 The Crusader of Truth Sounds good to me. 4:13 I am Noir Hello there, TheKillTimeXD! 4:13 Shockstorm yes. and yes ccc 4:13 The Crusader of Truth Hey TheKillTimeXD o/ 4:14 Cheatcodechamp Ok, lets get started. We will look at the article, decide if it needs to be split, and if so, what we do with the main article. 4:14 Atvelonis Why Netch (Dragonborn) ? It looks good to me 4:14 Cheatcodechamp Lets start with netch then 4:14 G0LD3NF1RE Netch is also in Morrowind 4:14 Cheatcodechamp Netch (Dragonborn) TheKillTimeXD has left the chat. Wulfharth has joined the chat. 4:14 Timeoin probably because Bull and Betty Netch? 4:14 G0LD3NF1RE So i think the idea was to split it so we have a article for both Dragonborn and Morrowind? 4:14 Wulfharth moot? 4:14 Bluesonic1 Yes 4:14 Cheatcodechamp No reason given, but it may be what Tim said 4:14 G0LD3NF1RE Yapp 4:15 Atvelonis eh sub-creatures for skyrim... ehhh 4:15 Bluesonic1 It was set for splitting because it has stats on 3 different types of Netches 4:15 Bronkiin brb 4:15 Atvelonis make a table 4:15 Timeoin oooh 4:15 Atvelonis ? 4:15 Wulfharth is there a schedule? 4:15 Timeoin right 4:15 Atvelonis @Wulf: not today, open-floor this time 4:15 Cheatcodechamp We have no MW article for them 4:15 Timeoin so ... it got moved from Netch 4:15 Bluesonic1 What about the infobox Atvel? 4:15 Wulfharth ok 4:15 Timeoin Wulf ... we ran out of items already Starkiller131 has joined the chat. 4:15 Wulfharth hmmm 4:15 Timeoin its like we ... did something that made a lot of the problems go away ;) 4:16 G0LD3NF1RE Didn't Bro have one more thing he wanted to bring up? 4:16 Wulfharth lol true 4:16 Cheatcodechamp Ok, so do we split it into three articles, or keep it as is? 4:16 Bronkiin I did, G0ld, but I don't have it fully formulayed yet. 4:16 Atvelonis that can go in the table? 4:16 Bronkiin 4:16 G0LD3NF1RE Akay 4:16 Atvelonis I think it's fine as 1 article Just put the stats into a table in a ==Stats== section 4:16 G0LD3NF1RE Yeah i agree, if the reason is because of sub-species i think it's fine on one 4:16 Timeoin I think that stats for other games should be at Netch or at least the various type of netch 4:17 Shockstorm yeah since most of the time they don't specify bull or betty. linking/wording would be tough if we split 4:17 Bluesonic1 Ehh that seems weird, the infobox will be empty if we do that Starkiller131 has left the chat. 4:17 Cheatcodechamp Ok, all in favor of keeping it as is? 4:17 The Crusader of Truth (Support) 4:17 Timeoin (support) 4:17 G0LD3NF1RE (support) 4:17 Bluesonic1 (=) 4:18 The Crusader of Truth I think I'll start work on Bone Break Fever. Kind of clear where that one is going :P 4:18 I am Noir (=) 4:18 Atvelonis . 4:18 Cheatcodechamp (+) Ichabodh has joined the chat. 4:18 Timeoin heh. yeah :) 4:18 Cheatcodechamp Ok, I will remove the split 4:18 Timeoin ooh, actually, that reminds me 4:18 G0LD3NF1RE Or well, we could improve it. But i don't support spliting it cause of sub species. 4:18 Cheatcodechamp Next article 4:18 Bluesonic1 I wonder if a tabber system would work better? 4:18 Timeoin guys, I have something to address CCC ? :P 4:19 Cheatcodechamp Tim? 4:19 Timeoin I did have a topic, sorry (is that ok?) 4:19 Cheatcodechamp I decided to do this to use our time, I can put this off Do you need to write it out? 4:20 Timeoin it (shouldnt) take too long, this one 4:20 Ichabodh Hello, do any of you know of a way that i can upgrade my smithing in Skyrim relatively quickly 4:20 Cheatcodechamp Shoot then 4:20 Timeoin nah, my question was this - how do we feel about the two-page disambig thing? 4:20 Cheatcodechamp I do daggers and jewlery. 4:20 Ichabodh ok 4:20 Timeoin a long while ago, the community decided to remove them as part of some weirdly placed attempt at cleanup but, sometimes, they're necessary like with Bone Break Fever 4:21 Cheatcodechamp Some can be Lore articles, some can be used better, some may be deleted 4:21 Atvelonis Most expensive stuff is better icha 4:21 Timeoin thats the same disease, just in two games 4:21 Atvelonis the more valuable, the more experience you get 4:21 Ichabodh ok I'm working on my first playthrough 4:21 Timeoin would folks be in favour of using them where necessary? 4:21 Atvelonis I like two-link disambigs 4:21 Timeoin me as well 4:21 Atvelonis I have no idea why we removed htem 4:21 Cheatcodechamp I hate deleting them when we can use them. 4:21 Shockstorm yeah let's keep 4:21 Timeoin So yeah ... that was my question :) 4:21 Cheatcodechamp SS thought we should 4:21 Atvelonis I just don't like removing them 4:22 Timeoin can we start re-using them again? :) 4:22 Cheatcodechamp He marked all of them 4:22 Atvelonis I think they're useful 4:22 Shockstorm although I've nominated some for deletion but that's cuz I was told to haha 4:22 Atvelonis I'd love to tim 4:22 Timeoin (see? told you it'd be quick :P ) 4:22 Atvelonis @Shock: So did I, I didn't like it but it was our policy 4:22 Cheatcodechamp ALL of them, we have been cleaning them out for a year+ 4:22 Shockstorm yeah 4:22 The Crusader of Truth Wait, I missed the subject xD 4:22 Atvelonis We'd be getting a few hundred pages back 2-link disambigs 4:22 Ichabodh Thx Guys 4:22 Timeoin 2-page disambigs :P 4:22 Atvelonis no problem icha 4:22 Shockstorm in some cases it made people create bad links. like link to game-specific stuff on lore pages 4:22 Cheatcodechamp Ok, All in favor of reverted the delete policy of 2-link disambigs and putting them to use? 4:23 Wulfharth (+) 4:23 G0LD3NF1RE (support) 4:23 Bluesonic1 (+) 4:23 Timeoin (support) 4:23 Cheatcodechamp (+) 4:23 Shockstorm (y) 4:23 I am Noir (+) 4:23 Shockstorm (+) 4:23 The Crusader of Truth (support) 4:23 RenzXVI (+) 4:23 Timeoin Shock - sometimes it does, yeah but theres others, where theres nothing you can do :\ 4:23 Atvelonis (+) Ichabodh has left the chat. 4:23 Timeoin Like ... if a game book talks about Glenpoint - youve got literally nowhere to link too 4:24 Cheatcodechamp Ok, 10-0 4:24 G0LD3NF1RE Yep 4:24 Cheatcodechamp Shall we retrurn to the split articles? 4:24 Timeoin Heh. That was easy :P ' 4:24 Cheatcodechamp Do we want to look at some big ones? 4:24 Timeoin and yes, lets return :) 4:24 Wulfharth well there is actually on overuse on some random red links that annos me. 4:24 Cheatcodechamp Or some smaller ones so we can say we did more? 4:24 Timeoin small ;) 4:24 Shockstorm what do you mean by that wulf? 4:24 Timeoin XD 4:24 Wulfharth Let me explain On some lore book pages, like a fictional book someone will redlink a person's name. 4:25 Cheatcodechamp I do not think we need all those articles, most are pointless 4:25 Wulfharth and that person will NEVER have a page like Ever. 4:25 Atvelonis yeah I agree they don't need links 4:25 Cheatcodechamp If we give them one, its a small article 4:25 Wulfharth Sorry Tim - but you do it alot 4:25 Timeoin I think that was my fault :P 4:25 Atvelonis if they're fictional characters, meh 4:25 Shockstorm oh. well we can make redirects. idc much tho 4:25 Wulfharth lol yep 4:25 Timeoin Originally, I had planned on having a big page for all of the random characters and headers for them like for Authors 4:26 Cheatcodechamp Ok, back to splits. 4:26 Wulfharth but there isnt much point really 4:26 Timeoin but I never got around to it 4:26 Cheatcodechamp White Rose Prison 4:26 Timeoin (my bad) 4:26 The Crusader of Truth Splitting Bone Break Fever ? Sorry, eager to get to work on it :P 4:26 Cheatcodechamp No reason given, no talks, I say keep it as is 4:26 Timeoin Crusader - yeah, go for it :) no, that needs splitting, CCC 4:26 Wulfharth split by game 4:26 Timeoin White Rose Prison was a key location in one of the other games um ... Shadowkey? or something 4:27 Cheatcodechamp Its not listed 4:27 Timeoin I forget :( that doesnt mean it wasnt :P just that noone has the travels games :P 4:27 Cheatcodechamp Ok, I will add it and keep the split until its fixed Tjinhk has joined the chat. 4:27 Timeoin one sec 4:27 Atvelonis hey tjinhk 4:28 Tjinhk hi 4:28 The Crusader of Truth Welcome to chat Tjinhk 4:28 Cheatcodechamp Bone Break Fever Do we want to split this, why is it being brought up a lot? 4:28 Timeoin Yes, split it I think Crusader was 4:28 Atvelonis yes it's in 2 games oblivion and skyrim 4:28 The Crusader of Truth Yes I am :P Working on it right now 4:28 Atvelonis it should be Bone Break Fever (Oblivion) and Bone Break Fever (Skyrim) 4:28 Tjinhk could anyone help diagnose this problem ive been having with my skyrim 4:29 Cheatcodechamp Ok, Crusader will handle it, any objections? 4:29 Atvelonis sure tjinhk can you PM me> 4:29 Bronkiin Sorry guys, gtg. Enjoy the rest of the Moot o/ 4:29 Tjinhk ye 4:29 The Crusader of Truth Cya Bron o/ 4:29 Bluesonic1 Bye Bron! 4:29 Atvelonis bye bron 4:29 G0LD3NF1RE See Ya Bro, guess we wont hear your next topic then. Bronkiin has left the chat. 4:29 The Crusader of Truth Guess this is my project for the night. Loading Oblivion up now :P I am Noir has left the chat. 4:29 Cheatcodechamp Mysterious Note This one I think needs split Its for two different notes. 4:30 G0LD3NF1RE Then yes :P 4:30 Atvelonis yes it should be split for sure 4:30 Wulfharth of course 4:30 Timeoin that one is good 4:30 Cheatcodechamp Any objections? How about people willing to do this? 4:30 Timeoin as the 2-link thing, we can now add as well P) 4:30 Wulfharth its like not even a discussion! 4:30 Timeoin 4:31 Cheatcodechamp Ok, this one will be fun Troll (Oblivion) Trolls have tribes kind of in Oblivion, does each group need its own article? 4:31 Timeoin Lets do it ;) XD I think the tag was actually from Troll when it got moved 4:32 G0LD3NF1RE Don't really think theres enough info for a page for all the tribes? 4:32 Timeoin but I'm actually okay with having separate articles for them as well :P 4:32 Cheatcodechamp Ok, it looks like I marked it 4:32 Timeoin like Azkhaban troll :P 4:32 G0LD3NF1RE
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4:32 Cheatcodechamp Painted troll 4:32 Timeoin Painted Troll SHOULD have one 4:32 Cheatcodechamp I thought painted troll needed its own article 4:32 The Crusader of Truth I'd offer to work on it, but I've only seen some troll on oblivion carrying potatos, thats it xD 4:32 Timeoin as its a quest :P 4:32 Shockstorm yeah it should 4:32 Cheatcodechamp Ok, keep as it, get painted troll its own article? 4:32 Timeoin +1 for the second best quest in the game :P 4:32 G0LD3NF1RE Uderfrykte Matron and painted? Uderfrykte Matron is a unique troll 4:33 Timeoin (the best being the one to fetch a large potato ;) 4:33 Wulfharth unless they have different stats 4:33 Cheatcodechamp You are right 4:33 G0LD3NF1RE Uderfrykte Matron It has a own article :o 4:33 Cheatcodechamp Ok, so I guess no to split, but create two sub articles for the special ones 4:33 The Crusader of Truth Tim, you mean Jumbo Potato? Thats whats that is for! xD 4:33 Timeoin XD 4:34 Cheatcodechamp Ok, all in favor of keeping the article as is, but creating Uderfrykte Matron and painted troll? 4:34 Timeoin and before you ask, the best God in the game ... Phynaster :P taught the elves to live longer by taking smaller steps :P 4:34 G0LD3NF1RE (support) 4:34 Timeoin (support) 4:34 Atvelonis (+) sure 4:34 Kora Stormblade

aww 4:34 Atvelonis ( + ) kora 4:34 The Crusader of Truth (support) 4:34 Kora Stormblade (+) 4:34 Atvelonis templates don't work in chat 4:34 Shockstorm (+) 4:34 The Crusader of Truth "(support)" Kora :P 4:34 Kora Stormblade yay :P 4:35 Cheatcodechamp Ok 4:35 The Crusader of Truth Oh, that works too :P 4:35 Kora Stormblade Imma try and remember that one for next time 4:35 Cheatcodechamp Poison of Separation 4:36 Timeoin okay ... kids are awake :( 4:36 Atvelonis are potions/poisons even supposed to have their own pages I can't recall 4:36 Kora Stormblade aww tim D: 4:36 Cheatcodechamp No reason given, but it looks like three different poison levels. 4:36 Wulfharth why not avi? 4:36 Atvelonis I vaguely remember some policy not allowing them to have their own page because there are so many and they are so similar 4:36 Cheatcodechamp Ok, lets put this aside then 4:37 The Crusader of Truth Time to get Bone Break Feaver and turn in potatos... xD 4:37 Cheatcodechamp Policy should take first dibs on what we do here 4:37 Wulfharth wait... 4:37 Cheatcodechamp Wait? 4:37 Wulfharth There is literally no point is having all levels of potions and poisons with their own page IMO there are HUNDREDS of variations 4:38 G0LD3NF1RE Thousands if you count all games 4:38 Cheatcodechamp It would be a mess 4:38 Wulfharth all the effects and potencies 4:38 The Crusader of Truth We do that for pages like Madness Armor too, or something like that..? 4:38 Wulfharth just group them all Like Damage Magicka: LIST 4:38 Atvelonis Potions (Oblivion) Potions (Skyrim) 4:38 Wulfharth - 4:38 Atvelonis that's what I think we're supposed to do 4:39 Cheatcodechamp Ok, so what do we do with it Atve? Delete it? 4:39 Wulfharth yeah you got it TheKillTimeXD has joined the chat. 4:39 Wulfharth Skyrim page is perfect 4:39 Atvelonis I guess so yeah 4:39 Timeoin also - I apologise - it wasnt White Rose Prison at all :P 4:39 Cheatcodechamp I could redirect it to potions 4:40 Atvelonis sure 4:40 Wulfharth if you wanna be REALLY cool, the individual pages would link back that that page 4:40 Atvelonis redirects work yeah 4:40 Wulfharth (kinda like UESP) :p 4:40 Cheatcodechamp Ok, while I do that, talk about this Dragon Armor (Skyrim) 4:40 Atvelonis should probably be split TheKillTimeXD has left the chat. 4:40 Bluesonic1 I don't think that should be split Considering that's the name its listed as in-game 4:40 Atvelonis they're two different sets 4:41 The Crusader of Truth I say split it, it is in a sense two sets 4:41 Atvelonis dragonplate, dragonscale, iirc 4:41 Bluesonic1 I know, but in game they fall under "Dragon Armor" 4:41 Timeoin different sets - yes, split it 4:41 Wulfharth yeah id split Plate and Scale 4:41 G0LD3NF1RE Split the page to their respective names, and remove the Dragon Armor page? 4:41 The Crusader of Truth You mean dragon smithing, Blue? Zippertrain85 has left the chat. 4:41 Bluesonic1 Yep 4:41 Atvelonis no, use a disambig 4:42 The Crusader of Truth Then we'd need Daedric armor and Ancient Nord Armor together too :P 4:42 Atvelonis we can use 2-link disambigs now! 4:42 The Crusader of Truth That wouldn't be good 4:42 Cheatcodechamp Ok, so what are we doing with Dragon armor? 4:42 Bluesonic1 ... How are they under the same perk Crusader? 4:42 Wulfharth they do blue, but we categorise via Sets and not Perks 4:43 Cheatcodechamp I think each type needs its own page, 4:43 Atvelonis split them 4:43 Wulfharth split 4:43 Bluesonic1 @Wulf: Ehh I guess that's true too 4:43 Atvelonis Dragonscale Armor, Dragonplate Armor 4:43 Wulfharth not really a big deal anyway 4:43 Timeoin okay, gotta go :( 4:43 Atvelonis wait 4:43 The Crusader of Truth Not under the same perk, under the same smithing category for creating them. 4:43 Atvelonis what about online? it has dragon armor too 4:43 Cheatcodechamp Really? 4:43 Atvelonis is that subdivided into plate/scale? 4:43 G0LD3NF1RE See Ya Tim 4:43 Atvelonis yeah bye tim 4:43 The Crusader of Truth What? Really? Cya Tim o/ 4:44 Wulfharth if not then no problem 4:44 Cheatcodechamp Its a skill Atve Dragon Armor (Online) 4:44 The Crusader of Truth I thought dragons won't on Online..? 4:44 Bluesonic1 Bye Tim o/ 4:44 Atvelonis oh nvm it's a skill 4:44 Cheatcodechamp Cya Tim 4:44 Atvelonis yeah 4:44 Shockstorm see ya 4:44 Wulfharth Not to confised blah blah 4:44 Cheatcodechamp So, All in favor of spliting this into two articles, one for each armor type? 4:44 Wulfharth ok gotta go 4:44 Atvelonis (+) 4:44 Wulfharth bye 4:44 Atvelonis bye wulf Timeoin has left the chat. 4:44 G0LD3NF1RE Cya Wulf I am Noir has joined the chat. 4:45 Cheatcodechamp (+) 4:45 Bluesonic1 (+) 4:45 The Crusader of Truth Cya Wulf 4:45 Cheatcodechamp 0/ 4:45 The Crusader of Truth (+) 4:45 Cheatcodechamp o/ Just four votes? 4:45 Shockstorm (+) 4:45 Cheatcodechamp 5-0 4:46 Atvelonis anyone else? Wulfharth has left the chat. 4:46 RenzXVI Oh crap, I forgot the moot. I wasn't paying attention, not gonna vote. :p Sorry. 4:46 Bluesonic1 XD 4:46 I am Noir xD 4:46 Cheatcodechamp Ring of Phynaster Two games, one ring. Split? 4:47 G0LD3NF1RE Split. 4:47 RenzXVI (+) 4:47 Cheatcodechamp (+) 4:47 The Crusader of Truth Hmmm, I would lean to split 4:47 Atvelonis split for sure 4:47 The Crusader of Truth (+) 4:47 Bluesonic1 (+) 4:47 Atvelonis (+) 4:47 I am Noir Split. (+) 4:47 Kora Stormblade (support) 4:47 G0LD3NF1RE (support) 4:48 Shockstorm (+) 4:48 Cheatcodechamp Ok, do we want to do more or do we have other items to handle? 4:48 The Crusader of Truth Say, disease immunities are on Oblivion right? Cant remember 4:49 Cheatcodechamp I think so Achievements (Online) This is a large article, do we need to split it into smaller pages? Timeoin has joined the chat. 4:49 G0LD3NF1RE Yeah there are disease immunities in Oblivion 4:49 The Crusader of Truth Welcome back Tim o/ 4:50 Timeoin On phone for a bit 4:50 G0LD3NF1RE Argonians can't get diseases for example 4:50 Atvelonis hey tim 4:50 G0LD3NF1RE Without that vampire one 4:50 Timeoin Seeing if hell ley me 4:50 Atvelonis not sure about achievements (online) hmm we already have pages for a bunch of the achievements 4:50 Bluesonic1 Lol you just can't get away from us Tim :P 4:50 Cheatcodechamp Does each one need an article, that would be a massive project 4:51 Atvelonis I dunno 4:51 Timeoin Not really Or at least. .. not for the location ones 4:51 Cheatcodechamp Still, that would be a lot of small articles 4:51 Timeoin I.e. thr achievement for clearing "random dungeon #3" I am Noir has left the chat. 4:52 Atvelonis if we do some, we should do all 4:52 Timeoin Doesnt need a page :p 4:52 Atvelonis if some are too small, we do none consistency 4:52 Cheatcodechamp Lets focus on this one step at a time. Do we want to break this into smaller sub pages of achievments, by group 4:52 Timeoin I think so? 4:52 Atvelonis How about Achievements (Online)/ 4:52 Timeoin (Also, separate pages for ALL achievemens! 4:53 Atvelonis without separate pages 4:53 Timeoin Moar pages!! ;) 4:53 Atvelonis I don't think they need their own pages 4:53 Cheatcodechamp That would make it better to handle 4:53 Atvelonis redirects for them redirects from the name to its respective subpage 4:53 Cheatcodechamp Could you or tim handle that Or anybody for that matter? 4:53 Timeoin When i get time :p 4:54 Cheatcodechamp So are we spliting it into sub-pages? 4:54 Atvelonis subpages, with redirects to the subpages so yes 4:54 Timeoin I used the moot to add some categories for those quest pagrs :p 4:54 Atvelonis I can do it... sometime I'll add it to my to-do list so (+) for the achievements subpages thing 4:54 Timeoin Aff it to my tasklist as well :) 4:55 Cheatcodechamp (+) 4:55 G0LD3NF1RE (support) 4:55 Timeoin User:Timeoin/Tasklist ^there :) Shockstorm (+) 4:55 Timeoin (Support) 4:55 The Crusader of Truth Hours and hours pages, we could just keep this topic going into the next moot at this rate :P (+) 4:55 RenzXVI (+) 4:56 Kora Stormblade (support) 4:56 Cheatcodechamp Aldmeri Dominion Quests Do we break this up? Or keep as is 4:57 Atvelonis nah it's ok 4:57 Cheatcodechamp It will be a larger article once done, but I think its fine 4:57 Atvelonis it's already split up from Quests (Online) or whatever 4:57 Shockstorm Tim wanted to split a while back since its big 4:58 Timeoin Eh, i dont think it needs a massive page By the regions is ok 4:59 Cheatcodechamp Ok, so do we split it or not? 4:59 Kora Stormblade hm Timeoin has left the chat. 4:59 Atvelonis I dunno I think it's fine 4:59 Kora Stormblade ^ 5:00 The Crusader of Truth (oppose) as to splitting. Say, what does " __FLAGS__ " do? 5:00 Cheatcodechamp Ok, all in favor of keeping the page as is? ShawnCognitionCP has joined the chat. 5:00 Kora Stormblade hello Shawn o/ 5:00 Atvelonis hey shawn 5:00 The Crusader of Truth Hey ShawnCognitionCP o/ 5:00 Atvelonis we can leave it how it is 5:00 Kora Stormblade I say keep it 5:00 ShawnCognitionCP Only on for a very short time. 5:00 Atvelonis __FLAGS__, no idea 5:00 Cheatcodechamp Its a hassle, but it hides maintance templates from guests to the wiki I am Noir has joined the chat. 5:01 Kora Stormblade wb noir 5:01 Atvelonis it doesn't do anything flags work without it 5:01 Shockstorm i think it's just a placeholder for the wikia bot 5:02 Cheatcodechamp Berserk Orc Racial power. three games Split or keep as is? 5:02 I am Noir Keep as is. 5:03 Shockstorm I would split 5:03 Atvelonis split definitely it's in 3 games 5:03 The Crusader of Truth 3 Games? Split 5:03 ShawnCognitionCP Have to fly, sugar. Toodles 5:03 Cheatcodechamp Ok, I am inclined to agree 5:03 The Crusader of Truth Cya Shawn o/ 5:04 Atvelonis bye shawn 5:04 Cheatcodechamp Split it is. 5:04 I am Noir o/ 5:04 Shockstorm haha bye 5:04 Kora Stormblade o/ 5:04 Cheatcodechamp I think we are kinda done, do we have any other items to discuss? ShawnCognitionCP has left the chat. 5:04 G0LD3NF1RE Yeaaaa 5:04 Kora Stormblade
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5:05 Bluesonic1 Just something small Discussing with Atvel now 5:05 Cheatcodechamp There are more, but people seem to have tired of this. Im going to reword some stuff while you do that 5:05 G0LD3NF1RE I just want to tell everyone that you should vote on The Elder Scrolls Wiki:Poll 5:05 Bluesonic1 People should be avoiding the use of over tags in articles, and especially shouldn't be replacing with

5:05 G0LD3NF1RE Vote/add a vote topic 5:06 Atvelonis Yeah blue just informed me I was messing stuff up for people on certain browsers :/ 5:06 Bluesonic1

is old HTML that is being phased out, belongs to strict HTML 5.0 5:06 Shockstorm oh, didnt know that 5:06 Atvelonis yeah me neither sucks because I changed it on like hundreds of pages can we do at least blue 5:06 Shockstorm we were thinking it was the opposite haha 5:06 Atvelonis ? 5:06 The Crusader of Truth ...You're stating this from my replacing of to on an article? Still confused as to the difference on that one, I just know that doesnt flood the source in purple text :P 5:07 Atvelonis

to not

5:07 Cheatcodechamp How do I show that code in the update without it doing what it is meant to do? 5:07 Atvelonis would work though blue?

no 5:07 Bluesonic1

is the good one 5:07 Atvelonis ugh ok so no ? 5:07 RenzXVI ShawnCognitionCP has joined the chat. 5:07 Bluesonic1

is the current standard in coding 5:07 Atvelonis wb shawn 5:07 ShawnCognitionCP Actually, I have a minute. 5:07 RenzXVI br* 5:07 Atvelonis alright, gotcha 5:07 RenzXVI Damn it. 5:08 ShawnCognitionCP Fuckers are taking a break. 5:08 Atvelonis maaan that was a giant waste of time on my part 5:08 Bluesonic1 they may look the same now but when HTML takes another step forward, support will be left in the dust 5:08 Atvelonis ok guys if you have google docs copy+paste the code of a large page with in it hit ctrl+H that's find+replace 5:08 Cheatcodechamp Ok, any other items to discuss? 5:08 Atvelonis replace with

saves years of time 5:08 RenzXVI Cool. 5:08 Bluesonic1 Couldn't you just use Numidiumbot to find and replace these? 5:08 RenzXVI I can do that. 5:08 Atvelonis why does Potions (Skyrim) not work I dunno blue, maybe the headings aren't appearing mostly 5:09 The Crusader of Truth Atv, that works in editing too. The Find tool, that is :P 5:09 ShawnCognitionCP Also, my Halloween gift is complete. http://creepypasta.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:ShawnCognitionCP/Shocktober_Finale:_Real_Life_Snuff 5:09 Cheatcodechamp I speak to corey, see if he knows a fix and if the bot can help 5:09 Atvelonis oh wait you need to do instead of for that specific page for Potions (Skyrim) I got it 5:10 Cheatcodechamp Ok, Any other items for the moot? 5:10 Atvelonis Oh yes So I want to add lore achievements to the wiki cause lore is awesome, you know, and we want people to edit lore pages more So I have to think of names for all the achievements I have a few already 5:10 Bluesonic1 If the bot can run AWB, it can fix that thing VERY easily :P 5:10 Shockstorm yay 5:10 Atvelonis User:Atvelonis/Projects no 5:11 RenzXVI As insane as Dovahsebrom. 5:11 Atvelonis User:Atvelonis/Sandbox that 5:11 Cheatcodechamp Ok, all in favor of lore achievements? 5:11 Atvelonis getting confused with my subpages lol (+) 5:11 Bluesonic1 (+) 5:11 RenzXVI (+) 5:11 G0LD3NF1RE (support) 5:11 Atvelonis also guys, if you have suggestions for names, add them pls 5:11 The Crusader of Truth There, Bone Break Fever (Skyrim) and Bone Break Fever (Oblivion) is done. Anything that needs cleaning up? I know Bone Break Fever needs to be gone. And (support) 5:11 Atvelonis I need like 30 or something 5:11 RenzXVI As insane as Dovahsebrom. XD 5:11 Cheatcodechamp (+) 5:12 Shockstorm (+) 5:12 Atvelonis fgh it shouldn't be deleted entirely, should be a disambig I'll make that 5:12 Cheatcodechamp Ok, that seems to be it. 5:12 Atvelonis add names pls pls 5:12 Cheatcodechamp Any other items? Or are we done for the week? 5:12 The Crusader of Truth Ah, gotcha. And I'll fix up Diseases (Oblivion) and Skyrim's (wink) 5:12 Cheatcodechamp I think we should call it. Any objections to ending the moot? 5:13 Atvelonis TES:MOTMN TES:FAN TES:GAN TES:Quote of the Week TES:Featured Images TES:FeaturedPoll vote 5:14 Bluesonic1 None on my part- but just a friendly reminder after the

thing- always look coding up before assuming it's useless ;) 5:14 Shockstorm btw I took the deletion tag off the 2-link disambigs (still need to undelete/recreate some though) 5:14 Atvelonis in other news Diogo found this pdf of an obscure Arena guidebook or something http://www.mediafire.com/view/cfaipl1lrau9bda/Arena_-_The_Codex_Scientia.pdf We can use that 5:15 Cheatcodechamp OK, with that, I shall declarer this moot over.