User talk:EbonySkyrim/Archive 12

Chat?
Hey Ebony! Could you get on chat real quick? I need an admin's opinion on a situation. Likes-That-Tail (talk) 11:23, July 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Ebony, able to come on chat? Need to discuss something with you. --SuperSajuuk Talk Page 19:38, July 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * Need to discuss something with you Ebony, can you come on chat for a bit ? --SuperSajuuk Talk Page 22:39, July 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry to hear that, not to worry! :) --SuperSajuuk Talk Page 23:00, July 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Ebony, I need to chat with you on the chat, is it possible you can come on? --SuperSajuuk Talk Page 20:35, July 30, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks
thank you. because i thought it would but....i guess i was wrong! (: thank you for the answer to my question


 * ok i have another question how do you become a moderator?


 * when i created my blog post i couldnt find it when i was finished! i dont know whats going on


 * is console commands cheating if your using god mode? or anything else that helps?

Re: Talk tonight
Hey Ebony. The soonest I'll be able to get on is in 12 hours, but I will be on for the next three while I wait to actually start my day, as it's 4 am here. Also, you might want to check Ikabite's talk page. Jimeee and I talked about what had happened there during my afternoon, which was about 12 hours ago. Likes-That-Tail (talk) 08:38, July 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * As of right now, I'm not sure if I'll be able to make it on tonight to talk. There's a hurricane hitting, and I'm getting rolling black outs. If the power is on, I'll be there in nine hours. Likes-That-Tail (talk) 11:03, July 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * Hey Ebony! The storm passed for the most part, and I'm on now. I should be on for the rest of the day if you still want to talk, unless of course it starts storming again. But yes, I discussed the matter with Jimeee. If he didn't tell you what he said, you can ask him or me next time we speak. Likes-That-Tail (talk) 20:58, July 3, 2014 (UTC)

Noticed Cheatcodechamp hasn't edited in 30 days
Hey, I noticed that Cheatcodechamp hasn't edited since June 3, making him semi-active due to the 30-day rule. Just to let you know. Sincerely (talk) 13:46, July 4, 2014 (UTC)

Image
hello ebonyskyrim is TheWerewolfKing here. why did you delete my alduin picture?TheWerewolfKing (talk) 15:58, July 4, 2014 (UTC)


 * According to the logs, the file was deleted for being unused. Likes-That-Tail (talk) 16:06, July 4, 2014 (UTC)

Babies
Its not so much that as just ... everything else. :( Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 11:44, July 5, 2014 (UTC)

Banning an anon
Could you ban 37.221.174.7. This anon user has been vandalizing the user page of AES and has been making questionable articles on the main space. I understand if it is not possible but all I can do is ask. Zu&#39;u lost daal. Alduin1996 (talk)

Illusion Ritual Spell
It's well-known that, whether due to a glitch or simple oversight, the requirement for this quest is an Illusion level of 100, not 90, regardless of the requirements for other Master-level spells. This is even supported by the fact that one of the unofficial Skyrim patches addresses this issue by reducing the requirement to 90. After quite a bit of looking around at various messages boards and even a Youtube video, everything I have found confirms this, yet two users seem adamant on insisting that it is 90 despite plenty of evidence to the contrary, and something needs to be done about this, as it's starting to turn into an edit war. - Erik the Mad (talk) 18:18, July 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * Erik, the requirement is not 100. UESP (I know, bad >_>) states that the quest itself requires 90, but a glitch with the dialogue for Drevin is the reason why it makes you wait until 100. 90 is correct and it should be noted in the bugs section of the article for Drevin's broken dialogue. --SuperSajuuk Talk Page 18:24, July 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * Guys, it seems there are different answers on different sites. Some are uncertain and some say it is after you reach 90 after a patch. I have also looked at *cough*, UESP and it does indeed say that Speys, so maybe this should be mentioned in the article. 18:32, July 6, 2014 (UTC)

Updated with new information
I'm surprised at the approach of this wikia towards the discouraging use of quest categories. Having past experience with an MMO with thousands of quests, quest categories are an extremely efficient way group quests without the need to manually maintain individual quest lists and the mobile wikia apps makes extensive use of the categories. That being said, it's your sandbox and your rules.

Could I get some guidance what categories are to be included on the quests?

--Bowdacious.telon (talk) 18:29, July 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * In my opinion based on experience is that you can not have enough categories when it comes to quests. Granted, care and attention is required to structure the additional categories under the overarching quest category. On Vanguard, we created a quest template that auto-categorized the quests based on the variables entered in the article. There was no need to add any categories manually to a quest article.


 * Again categories are the most efficient way to cross-reference information. For example, visitors could be looking quests by faction (maybe to decide where to start the character), by level (where should I go next), by region (what quests have I missed for my achievement), location (what quests are here), reward type (which quests offer jewelry rewards), skill shortcuts (is it worth the skill points to invest them in persuasion and/or intimidation), etc.


 * Just yesterday, some friends were trying to remember where to get a certain quest in deshaan, and I was able to retrieve the information in under 1 min because the quest had been grouped in to region and location. They also were asking for reward type category to be added to this wikia.


 * I don't post for badges. I post to find answers quickly so I can help my fellow players and demonstrate that this wikia is a useful resource for them to find answers. --Bowdacious.telon (talk) 16:12, July 10, 2014 (UTC)


 * As requested, here's a link to a template used on the vanguard saga of heroes' wikia quest articles: Vanguard QuestInformation template. You will have to edit it to see the mediawiki code that checks to see if values are present in the various parts of the template and then adds categories automatically. For example, this template would look at the input of the 'level' variable and place quest in one of the quest level categories (eg. level 1 - 10, level 11 - 20, etc.) --Bowdacious.telon (talk) 21:59, July 11, 2014 (UTC)

Reverted vandalism
Hay Ebony Can you please review my thread and giv your oppinon. Pelinal Whitestrake keeps removing it without cause claimining it a Hoax and before that it was Hoax/Irritatin. I would like a outside opinion on this matter.

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:709213

Thank You Jared.jacobsen.75 (talk) 03:30, July 10, 2014 (UTC)Jared

Expanded
The Point of my is to see if anyone esle has had this happen, and posoble create a forum page for this under the proper heading/area on the forums.

Jared.jacobsen.75 (talk) 09:43, July 10, 2014 (UTC)Jared

Locking ID pages
Hey Ebony, could you lock the console commands subpages that contain item IDs? It's not like anything new can be added to them, and people keep doing this kind of edit. 17:23, July 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * Done.. 18:01, July 11, 2014 (UTC)

Factual correction
Hi EbonySkyrim I think i found a mistake on "Houses (Oblivion)" it says that shadowmere can get over-encumbered but on "Shadowmere (Oblivion)" it says she has no encumbrance, so she can carry an infinite amount of items. I tested it and i think she has no encumbrance. But i can't edit it beceause the page is protected. Peanut222link (talk) 22:10, July 14, 2014 (UTC)Peanut222link

Chat?
Hey Ebony. Can you please come on chat sometime soon? I need to speak with you. I'll be on for the next couple hours. Thank you! Likes-That-Tail (talk) 21:14, July 15, 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh, I understand about the heat. It's been 115°F here lately, and my air conditioning was blown up by lightning from the hurricane. But no, the Zipper situation is unrelated to what I wanted to talk about. If you see me on while you're on, then we'll talk. Thanks! Likes-That-Tail (talk) 12:11, July 16, 2014 (UTC)

I love what you did with ElderScrolls
Hi EbonySkyrim,

We're working on a really cool project that builds on top of the Wiki model and makes it much easier to build online knowledge communities. Right now we're focused on the cryptocurrency space but we'll expand from there. You've done a phenomenal job with ElderScrolls. I would really love to get on a Skype call with you and ask for your advice on community building and your opinion on what we're working on.

Can you please send me an e-mail at chris@eagerpanda.com and we can talk more?

Thanks!

-Chris98.234.48.13 22:16, July 17, 2014 (UTC)

Chat?
Hi Ebony. Are you able to come into chat at the moment? Jimeee (talk) 10:28, July 18, 2014 (UTC)

Notice
There's a new thread up on the private forum in the general chat board that I would like your input on. Thanks! ゆ (talk) 12:17, July 18, 2014 (UTC)


 * It's not being kept in private for the sake of being in private, it's so it it can be finetuned before being released. I can't force you to post, but as the only admin there, your input is extremely important. If you, for any reason, be it personal or time based, can't post on it in any form, I ask that you make another admin aware of it. ゆ (talk) 18:28, July 19, 2014 (UTC)


 * Listen, you're free to have your opinion on it, but a couple of admins don't equal the whole community, especially when you're not giving any points as a counter-argument. The current issue with the current administration is that you wont give anyone the time of day, I don't mean this in a bad way, I'm sure you're busy, this is exactly what this is all about. We aren't here to rebel against the admins, and you aren't here to act as an illuminati, that's why I want the community to improve, so the wiki can improve. You may be acting from a more experienced view point, but that only works when you teach people as opposed to the "I know what I'm doing therefore what I say goes" attitude that some seem to be taking. Jimeee came in chat, and gave reasons for his views. Kenny came in chat, and said he's going to give his views on the thread. This is a rare occurance, which I wish to see more of, as admins themselves has said, you are not above anyone else, and everyone else is expected to back up their views in situations like this, you are not exempt. When the discussion goes public, I hope to see you post, so we can finally reach an agreement, and make the wiki a better place :) ゆ (talk) 21:06, July 19, 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm not manipulating you, don't be defensive, I might have come off a certain way, but the point is, I'm trying to tell you that a wiki is a community effort, and if you ignore the community, it ends badly, and the wiki becomes a worse place. As you once said to someone else "can you ever compromize? In all the discussions I've seen you in, you never compromize, you do come off a bit bossy and enforcing what you think is the best all the time and want others to follow." this applies to you to, and your user right doesn't change that. "Please cool down and try to compromize some times. I'm sure the discussions will be more friendly that way." this also applies to you, I'm trying to be friendly here, and to offer a way in which we can compromise, but you deny it and claim I'm manipulating you, in favour of going with the opinion a select few users. If you aren't above anyone, act it. ゆ (talk) 14:16, July 20, 2014 (UTC)


 * OOOH, you were refering to the private forum being a bad idea, nevermind. If your issue is with the private forum itself, I'll put it public when I can. ゆ (talk) 18:18, July 20, 2014 (UTC)

Can you have a talk to Zipper and Digital Cleaner please
I don't know if you heard about the Zipper vs Digital fight on the mods Wiki but it is tearing the place apart. Now they have decided to continue the fight on my talk page. I normally don't swear but I wish they could both fu*k off, they are really anoyying me. Thanks in advance. Zu&#39;u lost daal. Alduin1996 (talk) 22:29, July 18, 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi this is Digital Cleaner, I received your request for me to leave this issue alone so in all due respect I will but first I think it's only fair that you know the circumstances and that I get the chance to speak on this issue after being slandered and abused through this whole thing.


 * I find it quite interesting that alduin posted this here on my talk page and I quote " I have contacted wikia via Communty Central and they have told me that I am able to demod Zipper and reinstate any blocked users", proving he see's the abuse, then nothing was done about it.


 * Alduin also private messaged me through steam saying he was siding with me on this and my ban would be lifted. Then he comes in here and writes the above. Something is not making sense here.


 * I am a victim in all of this. My trademarked name has experienced defamation through this because this wiki has allowed zippertrian85 to abuse his powers to delete my work, my comments and deleted his own smug comments to protect himself leaving nothing but derogatory remarks about me. It seems like this whole thing is being swept under the rug with me as the fall guy. I have done nothing more than voice concern over said admin's abuses with me and other people with rude behavior and ban's based on false pretenses.


 * You can fact check this here where another admin "likes that tail" wrote a chat warning on zippertrain85's wall. You'll see no such history on my talk page. That is a fact.


 * If people didn't stick up for their rights and the truth the world would be a terrible place. So that is why I am not going to sit idly by and allow this behavior without making someone in charge aware of it and see some action taken before I leave this wiki for all time. Of which I will gladly do after putting weeks of work in only to have this slander associated with my mod author name. Not to mention putting up with all this crap and wasting precious time.


 * This whole thing is a sham and I demand fair treatment. If I had one request, it would be that my profile "digitalcleaner is deleted from the wiki, or at least lift my ban. I do not want my name associated to this situation as banned and the pseudo defamation remarks. Because of the way things have been handled I dont want to be associated with this wiki in any way shape or form. Again, please delete my profile and my talk page, or lift my ban so I can at the very least edit my own profile.


 * I also want to make it very clear that I want no further part in this whatsoever. I want closure.


 * Thanks for your time reading this and for any help you can provide relating to my final requests. Digitalcleaner (talk) 07:34, July 24, 2014 (UTC)

Protect
Can you protect my userpage to sysop level? I won't be editing it further and I don't want others to be editing it either. Many thanks. --SuperSajuuk Talk Page 12:42, July 20, 2014 (UTC)

Chat
Hi ebony I need to ask you a thing can we chat Drafinizer


 * sorry I coultn talk with you yesterday I was and played oblivion sorry


 * I just wanted to let you know that our TES:IRC channel is back in order, if you ever have time to drop by. 21:54, July 22, 2014 (UTC)

Regarding Skyrim:90000
I read up on Skyrim's Talk Page after he was banned by Chat Moderator Likes-That-Tail.

He was banned for abusing multiple accounts, but your post here contradicts that. Please get on Chat ASAP so I can talk to you about it as another user and I feel that was an unacceptable Chat Ban.

— Profile/Talk 04:05, July 23, 2014 (UTC)


 * Hey Ebony, if you're not too busy, could you please get on chat? Thanks. Likes-That-Tail (talk) 06:53, July 23, 2014 (UTC)

Thank you
There was an anonymous user who had left a hate crime agaisnt my race on my user talk page and I informed TombRaiser and she informed me that you'd already banned them for their harassment. I wanted to say thank you. I greatly appreciate it.Gowihasti (talk) 04:39, July 23, 2014 (UTC)

Regarding Skyrim90000
I wish to speak to you about something new that you had done... — Profile/Talk 08:11, July 23, 2014 (UTC)

Edits Being Undone
Hi Ebony, I'm really really sorry to bother you again (and I realise you'll probably still be at work at the moment), but I have been having extra conflict regarding the user Erik the Mad. As well as issues on the Vilkas page, they are removing information I added from the Soul Gems page a while back. I thought it would be more helpful too if I made a more complete list of the information I keep trying to add to make things easier on you:

(For the Vilkas page)
 * Vilkas does not attack the Dragonborn when the player transforms into a werewolf.
 * Vilkas does not leave or become hostile if the Dragonborn kills an innocent person. They will do nothing or if town guards become involved and hostile, will attack the guards with the player as the majority of other followers do.
 * Vilkas at some point is not tagged as essential anymore (I stated in my edit comment that I didn't know at what point this happened, I speculated the end of the Companions Questline, but invited others to add this missing information).

(For the Soul Gems page)
 * Providing evidence for a possible type of Quartz that the game creators drew inspiration from for the Soul Gem design.

Again, I'm really sorry for bothering you, but this is rather upsetting, as I am trying to talk to the user myself through their Talk page and edit comments but it doesn't appear to be going well (they refused to reply at first) and are now labelling my edits as vandalism (see Soul Gem page history). I'd just rather have a staff member mediate the situation. Bluesonic1 (talk) 09:23, July 23, 2014 (UTC)

A New Person's Opinion on Mod
Another person joins the crew. Get on Chat when you are able and I will provide Pastebin. — Profile/Talk 14:29, July 23, 2014 (UTC)

Chat
Can you get onto the Chat..? :/ — Profile/Talk 23:30, July 23, 2014 (UTC)

Images
Hi Ebony, I recently uploaded a few images that I forgot to put the template on. I also uploaded one that I did not mean to, as my mouse is fairly sensitive and hates when I actually click on the right one. Is there a way you can delete your own images? The demented Breton (talk) 00:47, July 24, 2014 (UTC)

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/File:Yolo.PNG This one. The demented Breton (talk) 16:42, July 24, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Screenshots
I recieved your reply. Much thanks for the info, and I'll try converting screenshots I'll upload into the appropriate format next time. ^^ HumbleDaedricServant Poke 08:37, July 24, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Re:Chat(?)
Alrighty, works for me!!! — Profile/Talk 13:51, July 24, 2014 (UTC)

Adding staff templates as non-staff
Hey Ebony. Sorry to bother you, but Skyrim90000 has been adding staff templates to his user page as well as his talk page. He added the chat moderator template to his user page after I had banned him from chat, then after that was reverted by Sky Above, Voice Within, he proceeded to add the administrator template to his talk page, which was also removed by Sky. Just a few hours ago, Skyrim90000 added the patroller template to his user page, which I took the liberty of reverting myself. Could you talk to him about it? Thank you! Likes-That-Tail (talk) 04:25, July 25, 2014 (UTC)

Wikia Language Brigade
Yes! But I'll discuss it tomorrow :D

YATTA ヽ( ° ヮ° )ﾉ ☆ |　2014年07月25日、09:55:55

Why
Hi ebonyskyrim! I'm just here to ask WHY exactly you deleted my portal mod request? I needed someone to make it, so I asked by adding the request to this site. Yes it may serve no point but someone might notice and and start making it! I will re-post it. DONT DELETE IT! 121.222.220.73 06:13, July 26, 2014 (UTC)

Can you?
Can you get on TES? — Profile/Talk 20:00, July 26, 2014 (UTC)

Permabanning Skyrim90000
Hey Ebony. I don't know what's happened to make you unblock him, but as you can see, he's not stopping his disruptive behavior any time soon. Just by looking at his talk page can one notice he disregards warnings and suggestions and continues to troll. Thanks. 19:57, July 28, 2014 (UTC)

Erik the Mad
I think you should talk to Erik the Mad. He comes across as... aggressive. He has little patience and can be quite intolerent. Erandur&#39;s Companion (talk) 21:16, July 28, 2014 (UTC) Erandur's Companion

Re: What's up?
I'm still here kinda, I'm dealing with health issues at the moment & haven't been around much. But naw it's fine don't worry about it. Ȼǿᵰᵮẽᵲ ₲ħǿśᵵ Ⱥᵰᵾᵬĭᵴ  Đẽẽᵭᵴ 18:53, July 29, 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks for that on my talk page, I was busy today & wasn't around to respond. I appreciate the help Ebony :) Ȼǿᵰᵮẽᵲ ₲ħǿśᵵ Ⱥᵰᵾᵬĭᵴ  Đẽẽᵭᵴ 22:57, August 4, 2014 (UTC)

Talk
hi Ebonyskyrim can we have a speak if you are online

Thread removal
Hey, could you remove this thread as it clearly serves no purpose. Thanks Starkiller131 (talk) 19:55, July 30, 2014 (UTC)
 * Done 19:57, July 30, 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks Starkiller131 (talk) 20:00, July 30, 2014 (UTC)
 * Not to butt in here, but Star, you could have just done it yourself. In the time you made this talkpage message, the thread could have been removed by you. Just sayin'. --SuperSajuuk Talk Page 20:06, July 30, 2014 (UTC)

re template:spoiler
Hello! I noticed you were the one to delete the page Template:Spoiler. There's still some cleanup that needs doing with the deletion, and I was wondering if you could do it?

First off, Spoiler/doc needs deleting, since a /doc page for a deleted template is pretty useless. Also, spoiler's companion template endspoiler and its /doc should be deleted as well.

Then there's the issue of policy pages. The page The Elder Scrolls Wiki:Spoilers is the policy page that directs people to use spoiler. Normally I'd say mark it as archival (if this wiki does that with no-longer-relevant policy pages), but it turns out there's a conflicting policy papage: The Elder Scrolls Wiki:Spoiler warning. The Spoiler warning page has been around way longer than the spoiler page (on the order of several years), and its instructions match up with how spoilers are actually handled on here, not to mention the fact that Spoilers instructs readers to use a deleted template. I'm guessing that makes the Spoiler warning page take precedence over the Spoilers page. How would you feel about redirecting the Spoilers page to the Spoiler warnings page?

And final thing: The Elder Scrolls Wiki:Spoiler warning indicates that TES:SPOIL should be a redirect shortcut to The Elder Scrolls Wiki:Spoiler warning, but the link doesn't actually exist. Would you mind creating it? I'd do it myself, but I'm on mobile.

Cheers!! Fionare (talk) 17:58, July 31, 2014 (UTC)


 * No worries :) Just some things I happened to notice while browsing/editing. I've got two other thing to bring up, if that's okay.


 * So first off, #11 on The Elder Scrolls Wiki:Featured Articles/Checklist says, in part, that "[a]rticles should be written ... as historical documents about the topic (except in instances of items, HUD, or game mechanics)." This makes sense and I totally agree with it. Also seems common practice 'round here. The problem is that The Elder Scrolls Wiki:Style and formatting and its assorted subpages don't mention tense at all. Would changing the style guide to reflect that be in order?


 * Second thing, regarding the guidelines on hatnotes. Currently, they specify that "hatnotes should be placed between the infobox and lead. Disambiguation templates are treated similarly to hat notes." On the other hand, Wikipedia's guideline on hatnotes says that "[h]atnotes are placed at the very top of the article, before any other items such as images, navigational templates and maintenance templates .... Text-only browsers and screen readers present the page sequentially. If a reader has reached the wrong page, they typically want to know that first." I feel like Wikipedia's guidelines make more sense, not just in the case of TO browsers and screen readers, but in general. I'd bring this up on the style guide page, but it's not very active. Have the TESWiki admins ever thought about having an admin noticeboard for questions like this?


 * Again, thanks for everything. You're a very accessible admin, both to me and others :) Cheers, Fionare (talk) 15:46, August 4, 2014 (UTC)

Talk
hi ebony if you are online now we can maybe talk mvs Drafinizer

Can you start a chat EBonyskyrimeor shall we say goodness of madness mvh Drafinizer

I cant se dey in the chat mv´h Drafinizer

can you see me now Drafinizer

Yes I can later when can you which time

ok I ben in then at egth to ten

Bugs section
Hey there.Is the bugs section only to list the bugs or to list the bugs and how to exploit them, like for example the bugs section in The Jagged Crown? KnightOfAkatosh (talk) 11:43, August 2, 2014 (UTC)

Korvanjund
Sorry - don't know how I missed that part. I saw that the overview, bugs and trivial sections were OK and stopped looking. Cubears (talk) 20:09, August 2, 2014 (UTC)

Images
I was wondering, is there a way I can set the size of the images I upload on the "add image" page, or do I have to do it on my computer before I upload them?  DRAEVAN13  20:37, August 3, 2014 (UTC)

Bandits
Hey Ebony. I noticed that all the Bandits pages are plural, yet all other pages are singluar. Should "Bandits" be changed to "Bandit"? The pages for reavers are singular, and reavers are essentially just bandits with a different name. If "Bandits" is correct, shouldn't "Reaver" be "Reavers"? Likes-That-Tail (talk) 22:29, August 3, 2014 (UTC)

Message
Hello, I am a hireable wiki-liaison, but you can call me Doctor. My client is JIGSAW, but I hold no ties nor do I have influence of his actions. I do, however, have a message from him:

"This is JIGSAW 4 and I used to be fine on this wiki until I was unfairly banned and I know you all remember me. Unban me, give me a chance to contribute since I tried before but someone else banned me but what have you got to lose seriously. All you have to do is press like 2 buttons. I only started to vandalize because I was unfairly blocked by deyvid petteys and you know it. I mean my very first ban I got was unfair and it shouldn't be hard just to unblock me and let me contribute because I actually did used to help people..."

Respond at will, and have a pleasant day. I am always open to new clients, and the first service is free. ΘΣ (talk) 01:29, August 5, 2014 (UTC)

Ebonheart Pact pictures
I was going to add troop pictures on the Ebonheart Pact page (3 Argonian Heavy/Medium/Light, 3 Dunmer Heavy/Medium/Light, and 3 Nord Heavy/Medium/Light) as their troops appear at Pact Keeps in Cyrodiil. While they're all called "Pact Guard", "Pact Mender", and "Pact Mage" I was wondering if I could refer to their captions as "Pact Warrior" for Heavy , "Pact Quickblade" for Medium, and "Pact Mage" for Light to differentiate them better. Would that be okay, or should I stick to Guard/Mender/Mage?

I was also going to add the "Pact Archer", though these are always Nords in Medium Armor, ZOS left out Argonians and Dunmer of this class for some reason.  DRAEVAN13  16:09, August 5, 2014 (UTC)


 * What is a quickblade? Is it a term from the game? Its probably best to describe them with in-game terms so its less confusing, but you could always make the caption read "A Pact Guard in heavy armor", "A Pact Mender in medium armor" etc. Jimeee (talk) 16:13, August 5, 2014 (UTC)


 * It's not used for those specific guards in Cyrodiil, but it's often used in PvE for Medium Armored, dual-wielding enemies (i.e Dominion Quickblade, Covenant Quickblade, Renrijra Quickblade etc).  DRAEVAN13  19:30, August 5, 2014 (UTC)


 * Sure, do what you think is best. Sound good Ebony?Jimeee (talk) 19:51, August 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure, let's see what you have. :) 20:00, August 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll do that when I get home, I don't have them on my work computer right now. It'll be 4 Argonian, 4 Dunmer and 4 Nord in Heavy/Medium/Light/Bound + the Nord only Pact Archers. I just remembered that the Pact Mages wear Bound armor and Pact Menders regular Light armor.  DRAEVAN13  20:24, August 5, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Falion Disambig
Before I start: Jimeee, stay out of this discussion, I don't want your contribution involved, nor do I care if you don't like how I phrased this post. Moving on:
 * There is no reason at all for you to discuss with another staffmember if they should or shouldn't have rollback tools.

Stating an opinion is not allowed? Ok, I'll just stop contributing to the wiki then. I have every right to state my opinion if I want: AutoBlood stated he takes long hiatuses and then makes pointless edits out of nowhere, without any prior discussion and without giving any reason as to why, other than a "because I felt like it": why do we have people with flags who just make up excuses like this and then tell people not to make changes to their edits? I am perfectly entitled to state my opinion as to why someone still has a flag if they cannot keep reliable activity on this wiki or simply encourage disruptive and bad editing. On any other decent wikia, Auto would have lost his flag. That's how it works everywhere else.
 * Why don't you fix it yourself?

I'm so sorry that I have something called a life. You do realise I have a YouTube channel, 2 other wiki's, an internet forum and REAL LIFE to juggle all at once? You do also realise I cannot ALWAYS access a computer and must make edits from mobile devices? Me putting back a template because the real reason it was added didn't get fixed is perfectly valid, I really am sorry that you cannot see that I do not spend every single second of free time fixing this wiki and do not spend inordinate amounts of time going around looking for reasons to demote staff for no reason.
 * and the way you talk on the Falion talk page.. instead of a discussion and bumping it, why not add a delete template straight away?

It doesn't need a delete template and it requires a discussion. Or is discussion something that is treated like it's the big bad plague and the wiki will disappear for having a discussion?

You know, I once respected you. Your post on my talkpage made me lose my respect for you as a sysop. I'm very seriously considering going to Timeoin and asking to resign, I'm sick of these stupid messages and the rudeness that is displayed by both rollbackers and sysops alike. Please note I will NOT respond to any replies if you post them below.

EDIT: For reference, I contacted Wikia a couple of weeks ago regarding the situation with this wiki and the fact that sysops don't seem to really listen to the users. I have quoted a reply from Sannse below for your perusal:

Hi Sajuuk, 

''It seems this is quite a complex situation. I have read the various conversations and chatlogs you linked, and also looked at some other conversations on the wikia. ''

''Overall, this appears to be a problem of a disconnect between two groups on the wikia - those who are focused on the articles and those focused more on chat and other features. ''

''I think both sides have valid points, and both sides have made mistakes in interacting with the other. But possibly more importantly, I would say that each side has soured against the other to the point that they "hear" each other's tone in a negative way. ''

''By that I mean that, right now, if you were to say "hello" to one of the admins they would hear it as intended to be negative or provocative - whatever your actual intent. And the same is true when you read things they have typed. You interpret that through your own feelings and conclude that they are attacking you. ''

''That's not to say that they have always said things well, and obviously reading an innocent comment as aggressive is likely to generate a negative reply. So to get out of this trap you will both need to make changes in the way you interact and in how you perceive the other. That will take time and effort from all. ''

''Really, the solution to this isn't the deadmining or demodding of any user, it's about fixing the social landscape of the wikia. I'm happy to give some advice on ways you might start to do that, but would prefer if both sides of the argument are in agreement that some help would be useful. ''

''Perhaps you, or someone else on the wikia, could suggest this. I'm happy for you to share this email if helps you do so. I'm not certain I can help, but it would be something different from the current problems, and I'm willing to try! ''

Please let me know what you think 

Regards

-- sannse

Thank you. --SuperSajuuk Talk Page 22:13, August 5, 2014 (UTC)


 * Don't you know Sajuuk, everything that a Staff member thinks is always correct and anything else is wrong. Welcome the The Elder Scrolls Wiki! :) Lord Heisenberg of House White (talk) 22:26, August 5, 2014 (UTC)


 * PAGENAME is not a template, it is called a magic word, a special type of variable that MediaWiki uses internally. Please stop calling it a template because it is not. I fully disagree that it should be used in articles, that's not the purpose of the magic word at all: it's designed for use in templates. --SuperSajuuk Talk Page 22:33, August 5, 2014 (UTC)


 * You say no one listens to you, and I have tried but from what I can remember, you have from the start come out with negative remarks, pointing fingers at how bad this wiki is to maintain order, policies and everything else, and should or shouldn't do comparing to others.
 * Because it is in my personal opinion. Why is having an opinion and stating it such a bad thing here? And if I want to resign, I'll go to Tim or Tomb about it. --SuperSajuuk Talk Page 09:43, August 6, 2014 (UTC)

Conflict resolution

 * Please read, even if you're not Sajuuk or Ebony. I think what I have to say could be beneficial to everyone, and I'd really appreciate it if everyone could hear me put. Thanks in advance :)


 * I'd like to butt in for a second, not to talk about the disambiguation page issue, but about the response Sajuuk got from Wikia about how this wiki works. I think a lot of what sannse said was spot-on, especially the following: "[B]oth sides have valid points, and both sides have made mistakes in interacting with the other", and a solution will involve "fixing the social landscape of the wikia".


 * Now, I know I must seem like a total newbie here, but I do have a good amount of conflict-resolution experience, both in real life and through my 8+ years working on Wikipedia. In this case, my perspective as a newbie might be pretty beneficial to you guys. I've spent enough time lurking here as an anon to notice the disputes and disonnect that happen on here and to get a sense of where each editor is coming from, but my relative newness to the community means I'm detached enough to remain impartial and see each side clearly. I've actually wanted to bring this up for a while, but I didn't exactly know how. This still probably isn't the best timing, but I really do want to help, so here goes:


 * From what I've seen in my 9-ish months of anonymous and last few days of registered editing here, there is a real disconnect on here, with both sides having valid points and both sides having communication problems. I think you guys could use some conflict resolution with an impartial third-party mediator, and I'd be more than happy to fill that role. And when I say "conflict resolution", I'm not talking about this disambiguation issue, I mean any grievances you might have about an editor's behavior, or the way this wiki is run, or the way a policy is phrased. I think I could help you guys make some real progress, because I see a lot of emotion here from all parties, and it is impeding productive conflict resolution.


 * Again, I'm sorry about butting in. I just think I could potentially be of help when it comes to resolving all this tension and disconnect so you guys can communicate better, especially as someone who doesn't have a "side" in this issue, and as someone with several years of experience working with wikis. I've got several different ideas for how to handle conflict resolution on here--not just for this communication issue, but in general. I'm willing to tailor and tweak them until we find a conflict-resolution style that works for the group as a whole. I'm also willing to work one-on-one with anyone who wants to improve their communication, but I really would prefer to help the wiki at large.


 * Anyways. Thanks for listening :) Let me know if you guys are interested. I'd really love to help because this is a great wiki, and it has the potential to be even greater if everyone works to improve communication. Cheers, Fionare (talk) 17:25, August 6, 2014 (UTC)


 * Addendum: If you'd be interested in conflict resolution for any reason, whether it's disputes with an editor/editors, a concern about how the wiki's run, whatever, please post below letting me know! You don't have to say what the issue is (in fact it's probably best if you don't for now). In fact, you don't even have to have an issue--if you're simply in support of having a system put in place for future conflicts, please let me know below. The sooner I know for sure people are interested (if that's the case), the sooner I can draft a conflict resolution process tailored to this wiki, and the sooner we can get started. Thanks in advance, Fionare (talk) 18:36, August 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, I have to think about it. I'm going away for 3 days now so I'll be back letting you know. 22:20, August 6, 2014 (UTC)

Ghost Anubis
Can you please tell Ghost Anubis to stop spamming my blog. Thank you. Lord Heisenberg of House White (talk) 01:16, August 6, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Warning template
Hey thanks, yeah sorry I normally use that template, but I hadn't done that in a while & I kinda forgot. He was also vandalizing quickly, & I was trying to stop it. Thanks for the heads up though. Ȼǿᵰᵮẽᵲ ₲ħǿśᵵ Ⱥᵰᵾᵬĭᵴ  Đẽẽᵭᵴ 10:40, August 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * On a side note, can you come to the chat whenever you're able, I need to speak with you thanks. Ȼǿᵰᵮẽᵲ ₲ħǿśᵵ Ⱥᵰᵾᵬĭᵴ  Đẽẽᵭᵴ 11:17, August 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * Ghost, I haven't time right now.. but in a couple of hours I will have. 11:57, August 6, 2014 (UTC)

Pictures
So are the pictures I uploaded to the Ebonheart Pact page good?  DRAEVAN13  13:45, August 6, 2014 (UTC)


 * The slimming came from changing them all into 600x1000 pixels, my monitor is 1920x1080 so it distorted them a bit.  DRAEVAN13  15:48, August 6, 2014 (UTC)

Resignation
Hi Ebony. I'm going to resign. This wiki and its melodrama has gotten out of hand. I enjoyed my time here, at least until the forum and chat became the main focus. Thank you and all of the other members who I respected on the wiki. Sorry if this is short notice or anything. — AutoBlood  Talk  18:17, August 6, 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh ok. I'll message Tomb then. Thanks. — AutoBlood  Talk  22:58, August 6, 2014 (UTC)

I tried to delete it
I'm afraid I may have done wrong in deleting the offensive text that was originally there and trying to flag it to be deleted. Ban me if you wish, but I did not create the page, but was simply editing another when a flurry of new pages appeared. They were very vulgar, so I tried to tell the other members of the wiki. Thank you, and goodbye. Java55555Obeseman (talk) 22:16, August 6, 2014 (UTC)

disambiguation help
Hey, Ebony I need some help with creating a Disambiguation page for this page. I read the help page for creating a disambiguation page, but I'm still unsure on how to do it. Any help will be appreciated. Starkiller131 (talk) 18:21, August 7, 2014 (UTC)

re: talkpage
I know Ebony, Garoux's message is a violation of Wikia TOU: "You agree that you will not use the Service in any manner that is contrary to the Wikia Community Guidelines, which may be updated from time to time. Without limiting the foregoing, you also agree not to use the Service to: Abuse, harass, threaten or intimidate other Wikia users;". I will continue to remove the above as it violates Wikia TOU. Case closed. --SuperSajuuk Talk Page 20:54, August 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * Mediation would be desirable, should you have the time to look into this situation. As much as I hate to drag anyone into this, I am afraid we have a case of multiple rules being violated, which this user is now attempting to cover up by vandalizing my talk-page, and twisting the ToU in such a vague way, which would justify the removal of nearly any talk-page message. Your mediation would truly be appreciate, so we can get this bit of silliness over with. [[file:ForGaroux.png|40px|link=User:GarouxBloodline]] Some Assembly Required! 21:16, August 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * Garoux, we do not need admin mediation. No rules are being violated, your talkpage is NOT being vandalised and I am quoting the TOU directly. Maybe you should stop vandalising my page with edit warring to restore your message that is threatening and harassment? Your edits are disruptive and bordering on harrassment, please stop now. You are really not helping anything here whatsoever, especially as you seem to not want to listen to repeated notifications telling you to stop. --SuperSajuuk Talk Page 21:18, August 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * Since Ebony has not been briefed on the situation, I will go ahead and explain:

1. He pretended to be an Admin, but falsifying rules on a reconfirmation request which censored the person being reconfirmed.

2. He vandalized my talk-page by removing messages without my consent.

3. He has removed my messages from his talk-page, which violated rules. While they are not entirely civil, my points are valid and his reasoning for removing them is flaky, as nothing I have done is harassment - it is criticism and shock at his behaviour - especially since he is a chat moderator, and should be setting a good example.  Some Assembly Required! 21:23, August 9, 2014 (UTC)

That is why I did not message you first: I value your input, as I find you to be one of the most rationale users on this wiki - but then I saw that you were to be away for a few days. I am sorry this issue reached your talk-page, and should you find the time to mediate, I will trust in your judgment over the matter. Enjoy the rest of your time off.  Some Assembly Required! 21:25, August 9, 2014 (UTC)