Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-24.44.141.89-20131113224543/@comment-160529-20140101210641

Octo8 wrote: Now who sounds angry and incoherent like a child? I mean, geez, what about the guy gets you so riled up?

"Canon" is not a physical fact that you can observe. It's a standard that is set, by people. You might think only Bethesda material is canon, but that is just your opinion. It's not a physical fact or anything. Kirkbride is the author of a great part of the TES world, in particular concerning mythology, and hence is word has weight. That he is not the proprietor of the intellectual copyright is meaningless; that's merely a legal and economical question - a question that concerns RL, not the TES world. What is important is what is accepted and recognized as canon. And commonly, Kirkbride's material is accepted as canon. Even the official devs still reference it from time to time. Personally, I'd say it's low-level canon, i.e. canon unless explicitly refuted by something in the games. In any case, I'd much rather stick with what the guys at TIL and, as said, even the official devs, use as canon sources, then with what an petulant child with a grudge wants to force as canon definition on others.

yes only bethesda material is canon, you are high if you think that anyone else can make Elder Scrolls stuff canon. They own the franchise.

Its not a goddamned opinion, this is a legal fucking fact. You cannot use someone else's intellectual property without their permission.

The elder scrolls isnt some ancient mythology or public domain fairytal. The elder scrolls is a franchise owned by bethesda.

Are you a retard? do you need mental help? the hell is wrong with you of course its a legal matter, HE HAS NO LEGAL RIGHT TO THE CANON.

"That he is not the proprietor of the intellectual copyright is meaningless;"

it is completely meaningful, this would be like a writer from Super Mario RPG trolling forums and passing off his fan fiction about super mario galaxy as part of the universe.