User blog comment:JoshofBlades/Tiber's Hard Work Shall NOT Be Torn Asunder!/@comment-4692385-20111219154134/@comment-4692385-20111219172711

Yes Ysgramor did drive the snow elfs underground, but you really don't believe Ulfric can win against the Empire and the Thalmor with a rebel army. Also it's not just Imperials and elves the Stormcloaks are fighting against. You have Orcs, Redguards, Nords, and Bretons, also in the Imperial Army. Also if the Empire did fall The Thalmor would immediately attack a weakend Stormcloak Army.