Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-8248675-20130606043855/@comment-17114085-20140428001641

(Going to split them up, because it is too long.) What hasn't been confirmed?

Yes, I'm just saying that hypothetically, the Underking could have met Zurin and Wulfharth. That is what I mean. It hasn't been confirmed if General Talos could interact with Wulfarth or if the Underking could do it with Zurin or Wulfarth.

Talos and Lorkhan are actually very similar. War and Governance are merely what the Nine Divines Church associate with Talos.

Talos and Lorkhan are both the patron gods of man. Talos also took up Lorkhan's role in Mundus, which is fortifying the wheel of Convention. In C0DA Talos even morphs into Lorkhan. I know that he took up Lorkhan's role, that is part of him mantling Lorkhan. How are they similar? All we associate with Talos is War, Governance and Hero God of Mankind. That is kind of his characteristics.

PS.: What is C0DA? Ah here it is

Stay good.

''Alessia didn't have the power to absorb dragon souls. Hers was a much more nuanced power: to dream of liberty and give it a name and on her deathbed make Covenant with the Aka-Tusk.''

Perhaps if you had read her histories of the Dragon War, this would be more clear.

I'd honestly rather not believe this, as all it does is heavily contradict established TES lore. If TIL didn't think it important to include in the Library, I don't either.

But I will say that it doesn't necessarily prove that the emperors aren't true dragonborns. That is why I take MK's statements with a grain of salt. But its a bit hypocritical to take some of what he says as the absolute truth but take other things as lies. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

The only one of the Dragonborn Emperors that was said to be a true Dragonborn, having characteristics of a true Dragonborn, was Tiber Septim. Reman was called a Dragonborn by the Akaviri but he never used the thu'um or anything like that. Which begs the question...how did they know Reman was dragonborn?

Yes, but they didn't. None of them went to the Greybeards. Which seems extremely weird...I eman why wouldn't any of the Septims go to the Greybeards? Not even one that wouldn't become Emperor, like a second son or something. Its just extremely odd....

It's sort of a paradoxical situation in my opinion. Without other Dragons, the emperors were unable to learn the Thu'um, and without the Thu'um, the Greybeards would not call them. You don't need Dragon souls to learn the thu'um. Dragonborns can absorb knowledge kind of like how they absorb souls, remember High Hrothgar? Also the reason that the Greybears only call Talos or the LD after they've used the thu'um is because there was no other way for them to know that they were dragonborns. It is common knowledge that the Septim Emperors were dragonborns. The Greybeards wouldn't need to wait for them to learn the thu'um to know that they were dragonborns.