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216.128.109.88 wrote: the most powerful daedric prince is sheragorath he beat hircine in a creature creating contest hircine created a terrifying wheredaedra and sheragorath beat it with a colorful little bird also on another daedric princes summoning day he could just take over at will he also won a dream contest against varmenia by doing nothing and  Jyggalag was the most powerful but he no longer has that much power and he was created off jyggalag and none of the knowlege owned by the dp of knowlege is his he stole it he didn't even create his own daedric artifact so he is the most powerful. So many people in this thread have used the 16 Accords of Madness to prove that Sheogorath is the most powerful but if you have ever actually read the book you will know that he never actually uses power to beat the daedra.

In his contest against Vaermina he does absolutely nothing and that is really how he wins. All he does is use Vaermina's actions against her. In his contest against Hircine he creates a creature that uses Hircine's beast's own power against it, against most other monsters Sheogorath would lose. In his contest against Malacath he causes a champion orc to enter a bloodlust and kill a priest. Malacath then killed his own champion in revenge, regreting it hugely afterwards.

Look Up The Book 16 Accords Of Madness And Read It

Assuming that you have taken five minutes to read the book you will now know that Sheogorath's victories were mere coincidences and examples of the Daedric Princes fallibility, The book Azura and the Box proves that even mortals can trick Daedric Princes.

Hermaeus Mora did not actually steal all of his knowledge that is just how he gains the majority of his more important knowledge, an example of this is when the Skaal Elder from the Skyrim Dragonborn DLC agrees to give up his Skaal secrets to Hermaeus Mora. He doesn't steal it, he isn't tricked into it, he agrees to give up the secrets to allow the Dragonborn to defeat Miraak.

Jyggalag ws defeated by the Hero of Kvatch because he was hugely weakened and other Daedric Princes have lost to the player characters because they weren't trying, eg Hircine in the Morrowind DLC Bloodmoon.

Hermaeus Mora is also one of the most tempting Daedric Princes. In the book The Doors Of Oblivion (which is also a conjuration skill book) two conjurers attempt to visit and document every realm of Oblivion, he visits many realms including Vaermina's Quagmire and Molag Bal's Cold Harbour, eventually reaching Apocrypha the realm of wise Hermaeus Mora who tempts him with vast stores of knowledge and he quickly collects the conjurer as a trophy.

Sheogorath is more of a fun, loving Daedric Prince who has occasionally bested other Daedric Princes by sheer luck and NOT power alone. By the way, play his quest in Oblivion it is so much fun especially compared to his quest in Skyrim.

Random Fact : In the Skyrim College of Winterhold quest Good Intentions,Tolfdir states that the Eye is Neither "Elven, Daedric or Ayleid" but in fact the writing on the eye is actually Ayleid although it is gibberish which is very likely just lazy developers, we have seen this in many scripts and books written in other languages, often whole passages are copied and pasted.

Some of the smartest and most magically gifted races on Nirn are the Dwemer and Ayleids and both worshipped Hermaeus Mora although the Ayleids worshipped other Daedra too. The smartest and most magically gifted House of Morrowind is the Telvanni. The Telvanni also have connections to Hermaeus Mora, eg Neloth of Tel Mithryn who owns a Black Book and actively searches for more.