User talk:Deyvid Petteys

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Video Walkthroughs
Hey rad, meant to ask, what's the general consensus of video walkthroughs? Have a ton in mind that i'll post to the youtube channel, and reverse link to here (few thousand followers, that keep asking silly questions in pm's without seeing the wiki) ...is it an ok thing to post them? or should i stick to the text?

oh yeah and fixed the format so last response is below the table now =p Silozero (talk) 17:20, December 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * (Edit) in RE: Cheers Rad for the response, shouldn't be a problem to put vids as an external cat, if i can i'll try to cold link back to the wikia page in youtube descripts... traffic both ways is always good :D

Silozero (talk) 18:33, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

No problem. I am at work, so I dont have the game in front of me, but what i can do is try to help clean thing up and make everything more formal.Poppaberry (talk) 19:08, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Images
Ah, I worked out what the problem was. It needs [[File: in front of it now. Thats not such a big problem :) I dont mind doing that on the pages, and, I DEFINITELY like having the "upload one now" show up, so yeah, I'd say leave it how it is for now? :) [[User:Timeoin|Timeoin]]•Say G'Day•View my work•Skyrim To-Do List 21:44, December 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Too be honest? I havent been much of a fan of the super-duper hi res images anyways :) Maybe its a holdover from the days when the internet was run on dialup, but I think having a tonne of clunky images just slows the site down (and thus, we lose viewers). Especially when the images are only going to be 300 or 400 px anyways, it just seems silly :) (Although, if for whatever reason, someone wanted to upload a higher one, and have, say, for instance, in a subtext somewhere click here for a higher resolution image I guess that would be okay, but they'd have to be separated :) Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•Skyrim To-Do List 21:55, December 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * True, but they that shall not be named (seriously, dont name them :P) use extremely high-resolution pictures, under the fair use thing too. I don't think Bethesda mind us having screenshots that are high res, as long as they have the thing on it (States that the images belong to a game from Bethesda, etc :) Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•Skyrim To-Do List 22:05, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Re:
You really must make a presence on the IRC! It's a great place where you can meet and greet some of the staff here on the wiki like G0LD3NF1RE and Me (of course), as well as Kacj321 and BloodReaper. I don't do much editing, I just keep the wiki secure from trolls, I also do odd jobs such as adding catergorys and what not. If ya need help just ask. Commander Faol (talk) 22:10, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Hey so I tried to put that werewolf video on the Skyrim Werewolf page and you said I could not add it there... so where CAN I add it? I tried adding it to multiple different things and was always denied please help! Thanks!

CrispyNinjaInc (talk) 01:24, December 2, 2011 (UTC) CrispyNinjaInc aka Spencer

Question about categories
Hi, i'm currently in the process of categorizing many things on the wiki, but I noticed you removed some of my categories for some character just now. Alchemists and residents of specific towns - I think there is no harm in having specific categories for as much as we can. What do you think?

Ok, I understand your reasoning as this is what the Oblivion pages have, but personally - mixing both characters and locations into 1 category seems strange and looks a little disorganized when browsing through it. If a user wants a list of all residents of Whiterun then there should be a page that accommodates that rather that having to sift through the a general Whiterun page.

An added layer of granularity to each city/town only makes this wiki better in my opinion.

As for the Armor templates - I'm not sure what you changed, but it seems to have omitted the image on http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Banded_Iron_Armor which is where I tested it.

Jimeee (talk) 09:42, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I see - but what's advantage of using instead of the old way of ?

Previously he image dimensions automatically scaled to fix the box anyway, so we didn't need to specify the width?

Jimeee (talk) 09:51, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I'll speak to Timeion and see what he thinks. Personally I want this wiki to be just as good as UESP so to do that we really need have a really solid category structure and right now it's really bad in some parts. I have tried to automatically assign some categories in the template code, but it needs work and we might need further discussion about it another time.

We may have great traffic right now, but in long run this kinda stuff will start to show so we need to deal with it now.

Jimeee (talk) 09:56, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Ah ok, I have never noticed any autoscale problems as most of my added images fitted well, but maybe it can be glitchy.

The categories thing drives me crazy - in so many places we aren't differentiating between Oblivion and Skyrim and that's the worst. I hate having to use " (Skyrim)" as it's so inconsistent when compared with older games, but it's all we can do right now :(

Hi Deyvid, Timeon seemed ok with the specific character categories, so i'll go ahead and make some of these.

Also I think we maybe need to add some guideline in the http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Skyrim:_Characters page to let people know thet what creating a new page to please add all the relevant categories so we don't need to re-do everything so I added a short checklist to that page. What do you think?

Jimeee (talk) 13:30, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

I agree it's disjointed, but this is mainly because the old Oblivion pages weren't categorised properly so it messed everyting after that up. So now we need to label everything "Skyrim: blah blah" (like Dark Brotherhood etc) which is a pain. I think eventually once we have solid categories in place the whole thing might be clearer so then we can make some kind of heirarchy ourself.

Don't worry about broad categories - they help a ton when people are searching on google.

1 category we need in every single skyrim page is simply "Skyrim" - it seems obvious but so many pages don't have it and it will at least help us separate oblivion stuff. We can hard code this category into the templates and im doing this anyway.Jimeee (talk) 20:22, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Broken Add Category button
Hello I dunno if it's just me or no but I'm having some kind of issues when trying to add Categories of any sort to pages when using the Add category option at the bottom of each page. Before, I began writing the word and it gave me the existing categories and i just had to select one or so. Now it doesn't show me these things and after i'm done writing the category by myself i press Enter but it does nothing and i can't add a new cateogory. So if i wanna add another one i have to click Save and only after that I can add another one by clicking again on the Add Category button. Does this happen to you too or it could be just me?

Vercinghetorix (talk) 20:38, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

For a massive wiki like this one broad categories is just going to lead to bigger problems later. We are seeing this now with all the Oblivion pages. We need to be obsessive about categories so we can organise all this info correctly. Jimeee (talk) 20:37, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

I didn't encounter the "preview" problem, but sometimes when i change from Visual to Source i get wikia error or the page gets stuck on Publishing your edit.... or when i post pics or upload them i get some sort of thing like "you selected index.php, open with ...blah blah " and i have to refresh the page or post it again, but i don't seem to have your problem with either the preview thing or the wiki error after each edit.

Vercinghetorix (talk) 20:58, December 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * I do. I have all the problems you guys encountered. (dont know about the picture one, i don't upload pictures) The one with the categories below the page. The need of refreshing the page when i hit publish after working on a page, or it getting stuck during publishing. Preview also is very very slow and sometimes doesn't work. Very rarely, when i push preview, it doesn't work and my edits in a page have been reset. Kennyannydenny (talk) 17:33, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Help
But then the history of the page is lost, am i right? it also said "please do not copy the info in the page to the other page because of losing the history" or something like that. So i can ignore that message? Kennyannydenny (talk) 17:28, December 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * Alright. Thank you for the clarification. I think i'll just wait for Timeion. Not because your solution is not right, but something in me says wait. I work on several wiki's and wikia's now and i nothing else than follow the rules. I think i'll stick to that ;) Thanks for everything. Kennyannydenny (talk) 17:36, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, just a little question. When using the template for weapons,like the Dawnbreaker for example, there is this Class thing and I'm not sure what's supposed to be written there: the skill which is improved by using that weapon like One-handed or Archery for bows or what kind of weapon is it like two-handed axe or one-handed mace.

Vercinghetorix (talk) 11:08, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

I see but for staves should I write N/A or None or smth like that?

Vercinghetorix (talk) 11:14, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Categories
Hey, um... apparently some folks just like to do whatever they feel like around here :( (They'll be added back in soon). When editing pages, still add the normal categories, like Nords, Males, Characters when you come across them, for the reasons that we discussed a while back :) Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•Skyrim To-Do List 00:29, December 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * Toes have already been "stepped on", but not by you :) I'm just waiting for confirmation from the person who can check the Veeter Bot logs before anything happens, though. Anyways, thanks for your help! Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•Skyrim To-Do List 00:45, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

Template issue?
Hi Deyvid, I noticed that on several pages that use the weapons template I made there seems to be small icons included for the weight/damage/value.

In the template I omitted these for 2 reasons - they are from Oblivion and they look ugly against the black background. For some reason pages like Grimsever and Nightengale armor now have these icons and I have no idea how they got there - I don't think they should be included - what do you think?

Re: Template
Personally I just want the wiki pages looking their best and I feel the icons detract from that - it's no so much that they are from Oblivion, it's more that they are not optimized for dark backgrounds.

Another thing I wanted to discuss was a user: Ekulylnam. He has been removing templates from weapons and armor pages and replacing them with just a picture because "It goes against the consistency and restates information that is already on the page; also, it is not being used elsewhere". I don't know how you feel about this, but IMO the templates for those pages are useful. I'm pretty sure Timeon is cool with them too.

Jimeee (talk) 15:12, December 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * Looking at g, I noticed that it linked to Septim (Coin), which was a brilliant idea, so I added links to relevant pages for the other icon templates. Personally, I think they help illustrate the point, as well as link directly to articles about things like health, magicka, armor, and carrying capacity. Plus, I just think it looks goods.

As for the other user omitting templates, I personally think that's wrong because infoboxes are cleaner. Information can be moved from the article to the infobox if necessary -- and to eliminate any redundancies of information. I support the template usage fully, because they're visually appealing and they contain general information about the subjects in a neat and orderly manner. I would say edit the templates back in, or undo any omissions you see. If the edits go too far back, I may be able to revert them for you, so long as legitimately helpful edits aren't interspersed between the template-add-in and the template-taken-out. If it sparks an edit war, bring and admin into it. --— Radical D  (bother \  stalk)  15:17, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

I believe the septim coin was already being used to denore 'Value'? Anyway I guess we could keep them icons - it's not the biggest problem we have right now.

As for the template reverts, i'll continue to add them in but I strongly suspect they will be reverted - we should probably have an admin or Timeon just make it clear from now that armor and weapon pages should use templates.

Jimeee (talk) 15:26, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

Weapons Template
Its working out real nice like. just got done editing all the npc pages and i'm starting to go through every weapons page and using the template. thanks for making it.Poppaberry (talk) 21:32, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, do you know why all the weapons template pages are bright blue, instead of their old colour which matched with the rest of the page?

Vercinghetorix (talk) 14:51, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Hey!

i saw that you just added a template to the page i created, Sinderion's Field Laboratory. I thiught about adding the locations template, but did'ny because it has a space for a map picture, which is'nt needed. Maybe we need a template, for houses in cities, etc?