Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-92.251.228.132-20141108020915/@comment-27178151-20151112193141

Platinum Luffy wrote: Bone-Abbacus wrote: Very interesting divergence, and some of the points made by LDuka and CynicalEarth have provided, I feel, one of the most interesting takes on the DB and its surrounding views that I've yet seen.

Tangent though it may be, it was great. Thanks, friends.

On topic: While I don't personally consider the DB good (though they are one of the more interesting factions and they get some cool armor) how far one takes that as a concept is dependent on how far one delves into the philosophical nature of moral relativism. Indeed, it could be argued that no person is born with "innate" morality and that altruism itself does not even exist. If so, then for better or worse, the DB are simply the most "naturally human" faction in Skyrim. Simply doing as their baser, true nature dictates without regard for social convention.

This, too, depends on whether one finds the basic nature of humanity to be mostly good, with evil occasionally getting in the way, or mostly evil, in constant struggle to do and be "good."

I find them evil, if we must put morality on it, but not much more so than the Thieves Guild. While they try not to murder, they aren't above falsely incarcerating or framing someone for a crime, potentially leading to a life unjustly lived in a 4X4 cell like a caged animal. No it can't. Humans are born with morals. It is that some become corrupted and forget them over time. I am not certain there is evidence for this anywhere, but if you've studied it enough to know, I'd be interested in learning it. As far as my studies have shown, no newborn child has any innate sense of morality.