Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-8248675-20130606043855/@comment-17114085-20140425140338

Depends on what you mean by confirmed, do you accept MK's lore? I don't know that the hell to thing of MK. Sometimes he says thing that make sense and are credible but then other times he just says complete BS. So unless the things he says show up somehow in the games' lore it will just take it that he has his own fanon.

The whole Wulfharth Hjlati Zurin mixture has definitely been confirmed though. The mantella is in a sense the Heart of Talos (similar to the Heart of Lorkhan), it was made from Arctus, Hjalti, and Wulfharth. Take note of the fact that Talos is never mentioned as a god until the Underking was reuinted with the mantella and ascended.

Also Talos incarnated himself as a man named Wulf in Morrowind.

Wulf... Wulfharth.

To much to be a coincidence. Wulf was an Imperial. So does it mean that Talos is an Imperial? Yeah I know that the God Talos is a mixture of the three because of the Mantella thing.

They are two seperate people.

Think of Vivec, there is two of him, the mortal and the god; Vehk and Vivec.

That is different. Vehk and Vivec weren't alive at the same time, Vehk became Vivec. Tiber and Zurin are stated as being two separate entities that coexisted as two different people. How can Zurin be a part of Tiber if he and Tiber were seen as two different people that coexisted simultaneously. Only if Zurin gave his soul to Hjalti to turn him into Tiber and became Soulless. Which sounds pretty farfetched.

The same is applied to the Talos Oversoul just a bit more complicated

1. Wulfharth L 2. Hjalti O 3. Ysmir R 4. Talos K 5. Arctus H 6. Septim A N

Note how they are all listed as seperate entities.

They are comprised of each other yet seperate. It is similar to the whole aspects concept with gods (Shor = Shezarr = Sheorr = Lorkhan, but they are all seperate) What the hell are you talking about?

1. Wulfharth L 2. Hjalti O 3. Ysmir R 4. Talos K 5. Arctus H 6. Septim A N

What is this supposed to mean. How is Wulfarth an L, Hjalti an O, Ysmir(General Talos) an R, Talos(god) a K, Zurin an H, Tiber an A, and an N that isn't anybody equal Lorkhan? This doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Wulfharth shows up before then, he comes to Hjalti at the battle of Old Hroldan. I know, what I mean is that after he appears and teaches Hjalti the Thu'um, turning him into General Talos, he disappears and only reappears after Talos becomes Tiber. Which like I said could mean that Wulfarth separated himself from Talos so Hjalti could become Tiber.

If being confused means that I understand it then I am probably a master on this topic.