Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-30011802-20170217032502/@comment-26893431-20170219131755

Sports72Xtrm wrote: Blademaster Jauffre wrote: Sports72Xtrm wrote: 1. Skyrim I think will eventually secede from the Empire. Tullius hints that they made Ulfric a martyr even in the Legion wins ending and someone I think is going to probably use Ulfric as a rallying symbol. The Nords will go back to their roots, start training in the Thu'um for war, go back to dragon hunting, and using dragon bones to create powerful weapons using Nord craftmanship. Be strong and self reliant like the used to be in the old days.

2. Tamriel will be divided. I don't know if Skyrim will still be fighting Cyrodill, if they'll work things out, if other provinces start to secede the Empire, if countries that were at war one day will be allies the next. I think Bethesda will redraw the battle lines though. I doubt the Thalmor will get any traction. I don't know why people fear them so much. These guys are charlatans. Everything they claim they did right is a lie. They didn't end the Oblivion crisis and despite gaining a few wins in Cyrodiil, their invasion failed. Eventually, their going to slip up and destroy themselves.

3. It would be fun to see what happens if the Towers did actually did get destroyed. Just another Elder Scrolls crisis for the next protagonist to clean up. 1. No, Tullius says he fears that he's made a martyr, Rikke on the other hand says that without Ulfric's "fire", the rebellion will cease. You can't start "training in the thu'um for war" when nobody will teach you.

2. The Dominion is way stronger than you make them out to be. 1.Rikke will say whatever is needed to keep up the morale of Tullius, even if it isn't true. Even Hadvar suspects that Rikke has her doubts and even secretly sympathizes with the Stormcloaks. Besides, I believe as Bryling does, that the "fire" of the rebellion doesn't stem from Ulfric, he's the just the director of it. The fire comes from the Empire coercing the Nords to take what they want, causing resentment. That's where the fire comes from. It's as they say, the Empire is prodding a sleeping bear. As for learning the Thu'um, there had to be Voice Masters who didn't completely subscribe to the pacisifist nonsense of the Greybeards. Tiber Septim himself created the Imperial College of the Voice to teach Nords how to use the voice in war. Then again, there can also be prodigies who just learn how to use it themselves, all Nords after all are able to use the voice with discipline and there are word walls that teaches the words of power scattered throughout Skyrim. If the Greybeards don't see the light and teach the Nord people of their own volition especially under such dire times, secrets like that can be learned by infiltration from sects such as the Blades or the Thieves Guild. Knowledge is meant to be learned, and if someone has the will to put their mind to it, they can.

2.Tamriel has also beat back larger threats such as daedra, gods, and monsters. The Dominion are just a bunch of mortal elves who can die or be defeated the moment you show the world they bleed like everyone else. Not to mention, how many enemies do they have: The Blades, the human nations, the Psijic Order, Talos and his worshipers. They aren't unbeatable. People seem to overestimate them is the problem with a defeatist mentality, but they aren't even that daunting. 1. Oh please, she knows the Nords better than Tullius does, nothing to do with "keeping morale up". That Imperial College is nowhere to be found during the Fourth Era, aka, it's done for. You can't just "learn" the Voice, you need to understand the meaning of the words, the common Nord can only learn the Voice from someone who has mastered it, which leaves us with the Greybeards, who won't teach it for war. Neither the Blades nor the Thieves Guild will be able to "steal" the Voice, since just knowing how to say the words isn't enough, you need to know what they mean.

2. "Tamriel", oh right, when it was united... But too bad it isn't that right now. The Dominion is superior to the Empire, Stormcloaks and Redguards combined. The Blades are weak, the human nations are weak, the Psijic Order doesn't do anything against them, Talos can't do anything. They could have won the Great War if they so desired.