User blog comment:Longdead97/Ulfric's war effort & gaining support. Smart move or no?/@comment-1600847-20130327230238/@comment-7371906-20130328054319

'''"Why would Nords, his main followers, view the liberation of one of their cities from bloodthirsty savages as a bad thing"? '''

Why the same reason why Nords view his changing based on ancient Nordic ways and winning as a bad thing, or his service in the Great war, or starting a rebellion against the Empire that they have been part of for over hundreds of years, and his open denial of the White-Golden Concordat and they all viewed this with disdain or admiration not fear.

"As to Torygg, walking up to little more than a boy and Shouting him apart sure instills fear".

And charging up to a city raising an army and executing any denizens that can bear arms man, woman, or child even if they were an enemy shouldn't this be the rumor to be feared than the one as you quote I mean I would fear a guy who done this more than some mook who challenged a king and won even if he did it for his country this looked like it would have been recognized more.

" walking up to little more than a boy and Shouting him apart"

yeah no as I said the Nords are a warrior culture the would view the act of Shouting a boy apart as a sign of dishonorment but at least how you put it anyway but he did this in fair grounds the gave a option to reject this Torygg would still be High King regardless of what his people say because the Empire does need their vassal and this whole plan to instill fear would just go down the drain not very full proof now is it the Makarth Incident on the other hand is as bright as day yet for some reason one ought weighs the other regardless of the atrocities.

I you have met Ulfric then you should know this his psychology doesn't correlate with the actions that you are presenting his dialogue and actions correspond more on a man trying to or well forcing change on his nation by any means necessary and his mentality has very dampen negotiation skills due to much disdain he has for the Empire but instead of taking advantage of the the situation like how any one with the mentality you are suggesting he instead rushes head on like a bull and and basically yells his disdain without holding anything back some might say this would be fooling and to a degree it is yet you decree he would still be able to plan out this ultimate uprising all for well power with no other ulterior motive

Also Equillibrium

'''"i never said other races weren't in the imperial army". '''

Neither have I what I stated was that the same predicament that you sighted with the Stormcloaks is easily applied to the Empire because they allow other races to join them and there is no rule stated by ay of the Stormcloaks that it a Nord only army so yeah.

"because only YOU, the player, can join the stormcloaks as a different race, does not mean any race can join".

Well considering that the Dunmer try to join the Imperials and the Redguards try to join the Stormcloaks and neither were put in game I don't really know any other reason other than developer pacing especially from the Empire's perspective since you know they allow other races to join as such and no rule was sighted by the Stormcloaks as such against any of the ten races so it applies only for us but not for you is what your saying.