Board Thread:Off Topic/@comment-174.44.92.186-20140909202751/@comment-5583506-20140913160745

174.44.92.186 wrote: 2. A few tens of Psijics vs 5 Istari's? As Datadragon Odahviing said, a few powerful mages aren't going to beat an army of weaker ones.

3. Numidium was defeated by the Underking, who could solo both Melkor and Sauron. The Agent of Daggerfall never defeated the Numidium. Where did you get that from? Ancalagon was still defeated by elves. Numidium defeated an army of elves with ease. And he is a god, can't forget about that :)

4. Pelinal knocked the lights out of Umaril. He said that to the HoK because Pelinal couldn't finish the job because he was being cut into eight pieces. He still defeated Umaril, whether his soul fled or not. Laurence Schick is a developer at Zenimax who knows more about lore than both of us. It doesn't matter if he is on Reddit, because he is still a developer at Zenimax. Also, Pelinal is a Shezzarine.

5. This is the Underking, not who he was before. He took down Numidium, a god (and yes, Numidium is a god). I see no reason why he shouldn't be able to beat Melkor, who had a hard time with and was permanantly wounded by an elf warrior.

6. Oh well. Poor Miraak XD

7. That was just a joke. Smaug has a weak spot, though. But Smaug isn't even the strongest dragon in LotR. He's like 3rd or 4th I think. He can beat Odahviing, but not a more powerful Dragon like a Legendary Dragon. 2. You mentioned that the Underking was undead and therefore all powerful. This goes for the Istari who are all maiar, immortal spirits of the world. The Psijics could perhaps beat them once, but the maiar would eventually return in a new form, over and over... until the Psijics are nothing more than blank page in a book. Immortality wins over magical powers in the end...

3. Wow, everyone seemed really butthurt over the fact that my memory of the game is a bit vague. I played it back in 90's. Sorry about that? And if the Numidium was anything close to a god, he would still be around. Is he? No...

4. Schick may perhaps know more lore than us, but him stating that Pelinal could take Sauron is just disgraceful. He doesn't have Tolkien around to counter his arguments. Besides Sauron is a maiar, so once again immortality wins. Sorry, but I will stay on the side of the dead guy.

5. Melkor/Morgoth is Middle-Earths own Lucifer/Satan. He used to be a Valar. Him being defeated by a some bony-ass mage is just... unlikely :P

6. Nah, it was all in good fun. Saruman approves.

7. I don't know about. All I do know is Smaug would never stand a chance against Alduin.