Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-8248675-20130606043855/@comment-8248675-20130917224128

Perhaps as for the crypt of Ysgramore goes under Windhelm, their idea for that is the maze of hall of the dead, that you have to go into to speak to the Priestess of Arkey about the body of Susana the Wicked. I mean I am sure more then one players had a hard time at first navigating that, but it is not what you expect if that supposed to have been the masive crypt for Ysgramor.

Also, even though there are no Halls of the dead in cities like Morthal and Falkreath, they have cemeteries and Falkreath have the biggest on in Skyrim. Winterhold and Dawnstar don't even have those. You must wonder where the dead bodies go over there? Or maybe since it so cold over there, they are just let to freeze out in the open? Regardless of Falkreath having a huge cemetery, I don't think they ever burry the dead NPCs there, on my original character file, Rundil is left dead right when he died in a Dragon attack.

Also, as far as Jarl's palaces go. Morthal and Downstar have wooden halls or lodges basically for their Jarls, it expected since they more like Provincial Towns rather then huge cities like the rest of Hold capitals. Regardless of that, their halls actually have unique names. In Morthal, it's Halfmoon Hall and in Dawnstar it's White Hall. The question is, why the heck Falkreath's and Winterhold's halls like that are simply called Jarl's Longhouse. With Winterhold, it maybe understood, if we asume that the original Jarl's or King's Palace was swallowed by the sea, they would have to build a temporary Longhouse out of wood. Although you would assume that they would built a stone one by now, after 80 years have passed. I guess they are too busy playing the blame game with College of Winterhold, rather then focus on rebuilding at least something. But why in Falkreath, we don't have any unique name for their hall that supposed to be Jarl's palace? I think Helgen, before it was destroyed, looked much more like the hold's capital then Falkreath. Although I have to admit, city or town of Falkreath, fits the whole foresty, wilderness atmosphere of Falkreath as a hold. It have a feel to it, when you walking trough all that wielderness and for the most part untamed forest, and then you come across this town in the middle of the forest for the most part, that is happened to be hold's capital.

Now that I think of it, they do say that Falkreath was the place of many battles and the hold itself changed hands between Skyrim and Cyrodi in the first era quite few times. Then Cuhlecaine of Falkreath tried to secure Colovian Estates as well as Imperial throne in the late 2nd era. So perhaps the hold's capital of Falkreath had been destroyed way too many times to even know what it looked like originaly and a temporary hall for the Jarl, became a permanent Longhouse.

Oh and remember, it's Hjalmarsh that described as a poorest hold in the province with the capital of Morthal barely scraping by with the business from their sawmill and yet they have a unique name for their Jarl's dwelling. And it seems that the local people prefer to live in isolation as a provincial town, in the middle of swamps, keeping to themselves and not liking outsiders.

If Hjalmarsh is the poorest hold in the Province, how poor Winterhold must be, if there isn't even a sawmill in it's borders and only one, puny mine. Forget the famlands, the terrain threre so unforgiving, that there is barely anything in Winterhold besides giant glaciers and Icebergs. You might think you came to frozen Atmora when you come to Winterhold. Although I am sure it is possible to find a decent plot of land there for a house, somewhere near Windhelm would be a good place, I mean right across the White River there are Eastmarch's farmlands, why there cannot be a decent spots for the house on Winterhold's side of that area? I am hoping they would have the patch that allows you to build a house in Winterhold as well, especially since I play one of my Nord character as if he was from Winterhold, back where there were a little more people living there and one of the destroyed house in Winterhold, is where he was born and raised in the family of fisherman/Horker hunter who once left on the hunting trip and never came back.

Anyways, I am letting my thoughs flow here for too long, my last point here was that if Hjalmarsh considers to be the poorest hold, how come Winterhold is doing so much worst the Hjalmarsh. By the way, I have a feeling that it's pronounced as Hjalmarch, but I am too lazy to fix it everywhere I said otherwise, lol.