Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-72.74.78.209-20141019230536

Ok, I know there are a million threads about the civil war but just hear me out. I know that the empire and the Stormcloaks are supposed to have both good and bad sides, but I just can't find anything wrong with the Stormclaok rebellion. Feel free to disagree with my opinions all you want, but here me out.

1) the empire could have kept fighting during the Great War. We know that the Redguards drove the Dominion out of Hammerfell without anywhere from Skyrim, High rock and Cyrodiil. And also, according to the book the Great War, the empire destroyed the Dominion's main army in Cyrodiil. Meaning that while the empire's army was crippled, the Dominion had the lower hand as they had no army left in Cyrodiil. So the white gold concordat really was entirely pointless.

2) Ulfric challenged king Toryig to a duel and he accepted, but lost. The empire obviously knows this but just spread propaganda about it.

3) the bear of Markarth, which depicts Ulfric as a bloodthirsty warlord, was writing by an imperial scholar. Also, considering that the city of Markarth is now filled with non massacred people, it can be assumed that the book is, at best, exadarated and at worst complete propaganda (although the forsworn were defeated no after what, ulfric's actions in the city are unproven).

4) Ulfric is not racist. While some of his fellows are (yes we're looking at you Galmar) he is neutral on the racial crisis in his city. He has to fight a huge military power with a mostly untrained militia and limited researches and has little time to worry about much else. He did however allow the last Dragonborn to join regardless of his race and allows a Dunmer and a Redguards to live in the wealthier aria of the city. What's more is that the Dunmer hate the Nords more than the Nords hate them. They're all Daedra worshipers, slave owners and treat non elves as if they're animals. And even they rant as bad as the Thalmor, who by the way are being supported by the empire,

5) The empire supports the Thalmor. No further explanation required.

6) Ulfric Stormcloak is a brilliant tactician, a shrewd but effective leader and a chivalric, noble human being. He truly cares about his cause, his people and his country and believes, and knows, he's doing the right thing. Tulius meanwhile is an arrogant, careless, culturally insensitive, snobbish deuche. When I came into castle dour for the first time, I overheard him wining about Nords and they're "damn sense of honor". Furthermore, considering the way that he is governing solitude instead of Elisief, I'm pretty certain that after he wins the civil war he was planning to usurp the throne of Skyrim for himself.

Let me know your thoughts on this, ok. Just don't form a lunch mob because I'm saying this. 