User talk:Jimeee/Archive11

Re:Images
We need sources, and i made it clear i trusted they weren't stolen. None of his images are sourced and are missing an image copyright tag, Both are things we tell people we require when an image is added.

He has no reason to be offended by me asking him to source his images, i see no reason that he has to be upset by the rules or to me asking for him to comply with them.-Cheatcodechamp (talk) 03:26, January 1, 2013 (UTC)


 * I guess your right, the last thing we need it to chase away editors that are helping. for the sake of keeping them ill bite my tongue and trust they are adding their images.-Cheatcodechamp (talk) 20:13, January 1, 2013 (UTC)

Museum of Artifacts
Hey thanks for putting in the tribunal location template, for the artical i was having trouble finding out how to set that up.DeirdreKent101 (talk) 17:59, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

I was wondering can you do the tribunal template for godsreach, too. its a location in the game a neighborhood i was hoping you can do that too, i dont know how to set up the tempplate.

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Godsreach

thanks

DeirdreKent101 (talk) 18:01, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Jimeee, im new to all this stuff but im learning as i go on. I just was worrying because i was uploading a photo and i dont want to do anything that could get me blocked. Just letting you know. oh and this wiki is AWESOME!!! so i would hate to get blocked. Thanks Kotymavericks (talk) 11:13, January 3, 2013 (UTC)

Ok thanks, i appreciate it i use this wiki for everything. Kotymavericks (talk) 11:28, January 3, 2013 (UTC)

A message from the overlord
I was wanting if there are pages for skyrim dlc's because I was wanting to more about the dawnguard and dragonborn dlc. And if you get the chance read my character story on my profile page, you'll like it. Fortune Payback (talk) 17:07, January 3, 2013 (UTC)Fortune Payback

Second person?
Im confused what you mean by second person? do you mean like this "My name is sally, sally likes eggs"?DeirdreKent101 (talk) 23:48, January 3, 2013 (UTC)

Ok thanks sorry about that, ima start read ing right now thanks i was confusedDeirdreKent101 (talk) 23:57, January 3, 2013 (UTC)

ok i read the blog is this ok? Fons Beren is a Noble who can be found, in the Great Bazaar in Mournhold. He claims to be a ladies man, and will ask the Nerevarine if they know any woman that is single.

is that better?

DeirdreKent101 (talk) 00:04, January 4, 2013 (UTC)Bold text

Guard question
Hi again. Well, I don't know what to do again. There is different types of guards in Morrowind, each one serves its unique purpose, for example - there are Great House Guards, they guarding peace in House-controlled regions. There are Royal Guards - personal bodyguards of King Helseth Hlaalu...there are Ordinators - Tribunal Temple guards, High Ordinators - Almalexia bodyguards etc...each type is wearing its personal armor set, have personal background etc.

The question is - do we need pages for each type of guard created (and described) or just one page (Guards : Morrowind) and list them all? Wharrgarbl (talk) 08:11, January 4, 2013 (UTC) As for first line...I'm just making article stubs, creating missing entries and leaving self-reminder at my talk-page to finish them later. Well, you can check the results of my work here, for example. If anything should be fixed - let me know. It's better to do it BEFORE I do more of this stuff :) Wharrgarbl (talk) 10:36, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, there are big location "Temple Courtyard", there are a big temple building and the only main door leads to "Mournhold Temple: Reception Area" which, in turn, is connected to others. In fact - Temple Courtyard is a location, the others named "Mournhold Temple: blah-blah-blah" are sublocations. Um... you will delete these pages and combine them to one? I just should know to do not create unecessary pages in future.Wharrgarbl (talk) 10:13, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * You knoooow...honestly - yeah, I noticed that my images was too long, but most of these articles are about non-important NPC, and the I thought that a high-resolution picture will be better. Your objection is noted, I'll try to fix that. The images just need to be a little wider, and it all be okay.

In Morrowind a very few things are actually leveled. For example in Skyrim merchants receive advanced items when player is leveled up, but in Morrowind you can always find the same items at the same points. The only exception are various containers (baskets-crates, but NOT chests) - with random loot. The same rule works with NPC - they didn't receive new armor and weapons according to player levels, the same armor and loot will be on that bandit from start until the end of game. Wharrgarbl (talk) 10:51, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

Check the progress here, I took this page as an example and I hope I'm doing it well so far :) Wharrgarbl (talk) 14:36, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

Opening sentence
Hey Jimeee, since when don't we want this "John is a Dunmer in The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind" as a first sentence on character pages? These sentences are still in the templates this way, right? 15:46, January 4, 2013 (UTC)


 * Ok. I'll change it when i come past character pages with said sentence. Btw, what do we need to do with Mournhold Temple: Reception Area, Mournhold Temple: Office of the Lord Archcanon, Mournhold Temple: Hall of Ministry. These are all sublocations, right? Shouldn't these be placed on the main page, Mournhold Temple? 16:10, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

Job Done
Guards (Morrowind) is finished. If there is anything should be added - just tell me :) Wharrgarbl (talk) 16:23, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

They are completely generic and identical, there are some named guard captains, but usually they have different stats, equipment etc. So I think there is no point in creating additional pages. Well, maybe one about "Almalexia Hands" as part of lore...but I don't know it really well to start this work, so I suggest to leave it as it is. Wharrgarbl (talk) 16:34, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome, I'll do what I can :)

Have a nice day. Wharrgarbl (talk) 16:38, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

Correcting Articles
So I decide to correct one of articles using some of your advices: made better (and smaller) image, filled with info using your example. The result is Mehra Helas page, and I wanted to ask you - is it everything okay or I need something to add?

One more thing, about Fortify Spell icon, that blue square...it's not from a game, I got it from internets,  is it okay to use it here? The article looks slightly better with it. Wharrgarbl (talk) 23:51, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

Serana images
Clicky. Take your pic (get it? lol). I kind of like the last one out of the 6. Let me know if you want something else. :) — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  03:29, January 5, 2013 (UTC)

Quick Question
Hey. I brought the question to the attention of a Bureaucrat yet never received any reply back. I guess it must of got lost in the coding aha but I understand. Anyways, I was just wondering into relation of what the Elder Scrolls wiki does in concern with character images in their character infoboxes. Just wondering if for the infoboxes it's preferred for the image to be a full body shot, a head shot, or an upper body shot? Or does it even matter? And well I'm here, something else came up. Would you prefer that unused files already uploaded to the wiki find use, or as I was already told, not worry about it because they supposedly get deleted at the end of the month? Anyways, thanks in-advance. Yours Always; --The Old World Relics  (talk/blog/contributions) 04:08, January 6, 2013 (UTC)

Blocking
What's up with all the 6 month blocks that have no reason specified? I see no clear signs of any socket puppetry in this case nor do they have a long history of previous blocks. If you have any specific reasons, please state them in the blocking process. I think The Elder Scrolls Wiki:BP works quite well. Nearly none of the blocked users return after the initial 3 days. And from that point on, they have a Wikia-wide record. 6 months is absolutely unnecessary and can even be damaging for the wiki itself. As said before, way shorter durations have very good effects on those trolls as they tend to leave quite fast. A lot of those blocked IP's are likely to be dynamic ones, the person the block was destined for, will have another one fast enough. This only increases the chances a legit user, assigned to that IP, will suffer from this. ~ Flightmare (talk) 13:10, January 10, 2013 (UTC)

hi are you online rite now
 * Such forms of overcompensation have no effect and can be damaging for the Wiki in some cases. There are even cases reported where this becomes fuel for the troll itself, making it a challenge to dodge the block. Altering durations afterwards will make us look inconsistent. ~ Flightmare (talk) 13:42, January 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * Agreed, our numbers are too thin. ~ Flightmare (talk) 14:01, January 10, 2013 (UTC)

Hello this is TACO117 and an old block is preventing me from editing. this block seems to be from before i came on and im sure it was blocked by mistake. if u could unblock the ip please do thx 13:26, January 25, 2013 (UTC)

Miraak's Sword
Why did you revert my edit? The sword in 'Miraak's sword' is not a proper noun. For instance, if I was in school writing an essay and in it I wrote something along the lines of "Leon's Spoon...", instead of "Leon's spoon...", would that be correct? Absolutely not. GarouxBloodline


 * For further clarification, you'll notice that I never de-cap the highlighted name at the beginning of the article page. Everywhere else, though, items needs to follow proper capitalization. GarouxBloodline

As for the sword, just because it's in-game name is Miraak's sword doesn't mean that's what it's actually called, if even called anything at all. Miraak's sword is just stating that the sword is Miraak's, and so the word sword should in no way be capped as a proper noun. GarouxBloodline
 * Yes, I was wrong with de-capping many of the location names that I edited. Although, certain locations still need to be fixed. For instance, 'Cave of the Abaddon' should always remained fully capped, but the cave in 'Tholdar's cave' shouldn't be fully capped. This is shown in the real world, too. For instance:
 * A store named 'The Price is Right' should be fully capped.
 * However, Alice's house should not be fully capped, as house in this case is not a proper noun.

On another note, the drainspell weapons are not unique. They have an infinite source, with the ghosts re-spawning. Unique means something of a finite source, or an item of singular findings. And in the case of games, a common item that has been named. For instance, Froki's bow is unique even though it originates from one of the most common bows found in the game. GarouxBloodline

Confusing
It looks like I'm going to have to digress. After poking around in the polices and guidelines, I finally managed to find the proper policy regarding this subject, and while it seems to contradict itself in a couple cases, it does indeed state that all in-game spelling needs to applied on this wiki, as well. Which is odd, because before that, it even states that article pages need to follow proper English conventions, with the exception of the About pages. You wouldn't happen to have an opinion on this, would you? I'm up for quotes following in-game spelling, but personally, it's baffling on me not to use proper English on an English encyclopedia. GarouxBloodline


 * I mean, look at this: "The only exception is: If the game capitalizes a word, so does The Elder Scrolls Wiki:About."
 * But then it goes on to say this... -.-


 * "Just because a term is in the game does not mean it should be capitalized."

Your policy is bi-polar. xD GarouxBloodline


 * Well, like I mentioned above, check out this policy. It contradicts itself by saying that I'm right and that I'm wrong at the same time. xD GarouxBloodline
 * Is there any way in which I can help? I know sometimes it seems like I'm imposing myself, but I'm just trying to help out. GarouxBloodline
 * Haha, I meant with settling which conventions should be used. But thinking about that some more, that should be more properly left with the leadership voted in here. As for where I should edit, I shouldn't have much problem with that. I'm pretty used to finding out where to edit on wikis. GarouxBloodline

Blood Horker/Reaver connection
Is there any chance you can help me out for a moment? I'm sure you've noticed the conversation between me and the anon 75.89.129.53, and the quote he provided does suggest that there is a connection, but still doesn't provide definitive proof. Is there any chance that you would maybe know of some dialogue with the Blood Horkers that would also support the connection? I happen to remember either the guy in the warehouse who started the quest or the pirate captain you go to talk to mentioning something about where their ships were, but my mind is drawing a blank after that. GarouxBloodline

Loading Screens
Hey Jimeee,

I saw you were following Tomb's talk page a little as well. As far as the task goes, the more people that are aware and submit images the better I think. As I mentioned there are over 300 loading screens, perhaps less than half that many models, but definitely over 300 text strings.

If Flightmare and Tombs and anyone else who want to provide for the cause would join in I think it would go rather quickly. But I believe that a naming scheme should be created for these loading screens. There are going to be so many of them, often with the same model.

Did a quick start up and snapped the first loading screen I saw. Immediately I saw two different text strings on the same model. Just as an idea I named them as a loading screen (with an ls designation) and then a word that generally describes what their text is about. But it may also be useful to include what the model is in the name.

As for the two I snapped just as a test they are ls-shouts and ls-julianos.

18:31, January 13, 2013 (UTC)


 * Okay, so here are 3 images taken from the nif files of loading screens. It's just the model, no smoke and no texts. Is this what you are looking for?
 * File:LS-model-map.png, File:LS-model-money.png, File:LS-model-bear.png — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  19:27, January 13, 2013 (UTC)


 * I think it is a good idea to just do the models since the text strings are already known. It shouldn't be hard to associate the texts with what models they are displayed with. This would definitely ease the process of trying to get all the individual screens to display in game. Especially considering some of them are glitched/quest screens. The Labyrinthian quest loading screens come to mind especialliy.


 * It may be worth having a reference screen, showing everything how it appears in game. But I would assume anyone that has played the game and has interest in the screens already know what they look like; it might just be a good reference to make. Then a table listing the models and the text strings that display with it. Perhaps with divisions and categories. Some loading screens will only display in cities, others are quest related and so on.
 * 21:13, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

Doomstone Appearances
Hey, I noticed that on some of the Birthsign Doomstone pages that they are marked as appearing for both Oblivion and Skyrim. Should I be this way? I figured that they would only be counted as "appearing" if it's the exact same stone (e.g. in the same province). So, should I remove Skyrim from the appearances or leave it? Thanks. Kroq-gar78 (talk) 18:55, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

Also, in Oblivion, they're called "Doomstones", while in Skyrim they're called "Standing Stones", so they're kinda of called different things in the games, too. Kroq-gar78 (talk) 18:57, January 13, 2013 (UTC)


 * Ok, I'll leave the Oblivion ones as-is and add Oblivion to the Skyrim stones. And yes, I'll start adding the disambig For templates under the infobox (if the infobox template doesn't add a lead, that it). Also, I saw that The Lady Stone redirects to The Lady Stone (Skyrim). Shouldn't it be a disambig page? I'm yet to check if that's how it is for all of them. Kroq-gar78 (talk) 19:06, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

Border
That border was there by design for two reasons:

If we decide to change that design, simply tampering with the border does not fix that problem. ~ Flightmare (talk) 12:07, January 14, 2013 (UTC)
 * It creates some sort of hierarchy witin the infobox itself to show the title is the most important thing.
 * It saves a lot of work within this overkill of templates to update.

Books Question
Hi again. I recently made some edits on Skyrim: Books pages and noticed, that every book text represented at the article...well - it's a wall of text actually, looking boring and bad. And I thought - how about asking someone to make a template just like "quote"-template, and place all this text inside of it. We will receive a nice background for book text and articles will be looking much better. Wharrgarbl (talk) 13:33, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, uesp is quite useful sometimes, for me - helps to find hidden Morrowind and Tribunal quests, test them myself and then(!) write articles here :3...i'm just lazy and doing that rarely :(

About book question - I think that a simple template with some decent background will solve all book-page problems, just my opinion. Anyway - thanks for answer :) Wharrgarbl (talk) 13:46, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Well yes, that's looking definitely better. I just wanted to add something :)


 * I think that, as we working with wiki encyclopedia - we should add all possible book locations in the game to wikia,  but  (!) - hide them in spoiler-like template, to avoid overburdening the article. For example - there is a page Iron Ore, it is very useful to know where to find it, but this wall of text again...this kind of stuff should be hidden and appear if user wants so, I think.
 * A little background for "book" template will be nice, we should distinguish the book text from the rest of the article. Make from book-pages something like a electronic book-reader, a little redesign :)
 * And of course I agree to make images a little smaller. Well, it's not a problem for Skyrim books, but Morrowind had lower graphics and high-res pictures of those books looks...not so good at all, smaller versions will be definitely better :) Wharrgarbl (talk) 23:13, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

ESO Update
Hey Jimeee! I saw an update on Bethesda Blog.

http://www.bethblog.com/2013/01/14/eso-update-daggerfall-covenant-questions-answered/

Is there any info to be posted?

I am sorry, but I did not know. Sorry. KernelFodder17:09, January 15, 2013 (UTC)

Blog
Hey jimeee, just like i said in a comment to your blog about the upcoming dlc:

''Uhm Jimeee, the citation says:"Dragonborn will be the first add-on arriving on PSN" and you say "with Dawnguard being released first". I think you made a small mistake ;)''

Just so you know. :D 22:22, January 18, 2013 (UTC)


 * I see no such error on the blog ;) Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 22:27, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

Furnishings
Hey Jimeee,

I saw some time ago you requested a complete aggregation of images for Furnishings.

Firstly I see a rather prominent alert that the list is most likely not complete as it sits.

Secondly, how exactly would you perfer these images? It seems there are a few already on the page, but I assume you don't want to be able to see the context menus and such.

Otherwise I suppose I could start slowly working through those.

02:32, January 19, 2013 (UTC)

Locations (Dragonborn)
Hey Jimeee, i don't know why but the Locations (Dragonborn) page is doing a little weird in Internet Explorer. I don't know much about the template/code used on the page, never seen that before. Maybe you know why it does this: see picture. 16:38, January 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * The same happens with the Side Quests on the page Quests (Dragonborn). 16:46, January 19, 2013 (UTC)

Morrowind project banners
Hello, I seem to remember you telling someone that, while Stub templates should go at the bottom, the MorrowindItemsProject and MorrowindNPCProject were fine left at the top. The reason I ask is because I've seen FaceOfJanus moving the project banners from the top to the bottom (such as this edit and thought I should ask an admin first. Thanks in advance! Kroq-gar78 (talk) 17:29, January 19, 2013 (UTC)

Protected Pages
Jimeee,

I've been browsing around the wiki and noticed that there are several sites that are blocked (even to registered users like myself). I understand the need for these blocks (i.e. vandalism/spam, edit wars, new & unsure content like ), but at a certain point these get annoying, like for instance, the Dragon Priest Mask article (as well as each and every Dragon Priest Mask page - but apparently not the masks of Dragonborn).

I really would love to contribute to the wiki, but these locks are severely hindering my ability to contribute (i.e. if I wanted to add the Dragonborn masks to the Dragon Priest Mask page).

I'm not asking you to "open the floodgates" and allow everyone to edit everything. Just at the very least, could you (in a template box, perhaps) let everyone know why a certain article is locked (like in the "this needs work" template, and preferably say other than "this page has been protected to prevent editing") and possibly give us a time or conditions when it will be unlocked?

Thanks! ShermTank7272 (talk) 00:31, January 20, 2013 (UTC)

Duplicate Blog
Hey Jimeee, I just wanted to apologize for posting the duplicate Beta announcement blog. I didn't see it either in the news section of the main page and wanted to be sure it was covered.

Best, Jorge (profile)•(talk) 17:06, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

Appearances
I saw that you removed the appearances section from At the Summit of Apocrypha, why? 09:46, January 25, 2013 (UTC)

09:54, January 25, 2013 (UTC) Can I ask why my page was deleted?
 * When I first came here I was told to add appearances to all pages including quests. A lot of pages have it and I'm pretty sure the create article template includes the appearances section.

Ryoxas (talk) 17:42, January 25, 2013 (UTC)

Oh... It's just that I've just started playing Oblivion as I've borrowed it, and I found this weapon and searched for it on this site, I couldn't find it so I searched on other sites for the information and thought I'd create a page on here, I didn't realise weapons were sorted like that, I think I understand now...

Ryoxas (talk) 17:57, January 25, 2013 (UTC)

Quests
I was thinking if you could add Quests from Dragonborn DLC to Quests (Skyrim). Because I saw Dawnguard quests listed there and not these.

Beer3master (talk) 15:49, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

Dragon Riding
I saw you made the section usage of the Dragon Riding page. I also saw you uploaded the pictures for the buttons, but i think you made a mistake. I can only order a dragon to attack with the left thumbstick, not with left button like mentioned in the little table. 20:27, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

Hello im a new member, I was on the page for the follower Frea. How do i upload an Image for the page. The box said have an image of Frea so i hit upload, but then it was not on the page. but just uploaded and was place with the library of other pics. Am i doing something wrong.

Thank you

Re Patroller
Thanks Jimeee, I'll try and do my best. Might be a bit slow in the beginning, just let me know if I do something wrong! EbonySkyrim (talk) 23:04, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

Soul Gems
Hey! It's been a while.

For some reason I thougt that this Wiki could use a lore page on Soul Gems. Any properties of these gems, as well as any detail to how do they really operate and are consumed are lacking. There are little to no sources on them. I've looked on other wikis and the Imperial Library, but they offer very little information and lack any references.

I found it quite suprising, that such a commonly used object is left so unexplained.

I though you might be interested in doing some research. Eh, let's team up?

Ikabite (talk) 14:17, January 28, 2013 (UTC)


 * Damn, you're fast! I just accidentally refreshed my browser before posting an edit. It was a little frustrating. But the page had even more info. I guess I'll let you work for some time and add some info later. I'm off to making some dinner for now.


 * Ikabite (talk) 17:14, January 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * Hey! You might want to look at the Soul Gem project. There isn't much new info, but I'd like to hear your opinion on the speculations and, perhaps, hear some new questions to discuss. If you have the time, that is. If you think we have enaugh info, I could start "blueprints" of the page itself.
 * Ikabite (talk) 16:31, January 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm glad you're finally back on the project. Ikabite (talk) 16:34, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

Question about the journal entries
Hi Jimee, I asked Tomb where should journal entries be, I had missed it for quests. She said to ask you as you have added the journals. There it says gallery, trivia and bugs is under journal entries, but after creating a test page for Dragonborn the journal entries go above those. I'm a little confused now. :) EbonySkyrim (talk) 19:56, January 31, 2013 (UTC) 