Board Thread:Consensus Track/@comment-1251315-20150307101537/@comment-4984687-20150308011013

I have to disagree. Only in certain cases do I support the base name being kept while the other is merely put in brackets. For example, Minorne and Minorne (Book), the character keeps the base name as they are more important than the book.

The argument here is different. The title of the thread is misleading, this is not Location Disambiguation changes being discussed, this is Multiple Game Disambiguation changes. In examples like Elden Root and Eldenroot, neither are put in brackets because while they are both the same locations one is made up of two words and one is a compound. That's just the change that happens between 20 years of games. I'm also guessing some people will bring up Sancre Tor/Sancre Tor (Online) and Ivarstead/Ivarstead (Online). The reason those are not titled Sancre Tor (Oblivion) and Ivarstead (Skyrim) is because they were made prior to ESO's release and we haven't gotten around to renaming them.

This argument also applies to characters, like Neloth (Morrowind) and Neloth (Dragonborn). Yes, they are both the same character that has appeared in two games, which is different from Hairan (Morrowind) and Hairan (Online). Multiple characters with the same name are also a different case, like Sond (Child)/Sond (Adult) or Dram from and Dram Bero from. The difference between these two cases is that the first are two in the same game and the latter are two from different games with the same name except one has a last name. The first cannot apply to locations, as there can't be Bleak Falls Barrow (Cave) and Bleak Falls Barrow (Ruin), Bethesda has never made two locations with the same name in one game.

Now, you're saying that only one page should retain the base name, and to decide this it should be based on the most likely search result. The thing is, this is a bad argument. Sure, in some cases like on Wikipedia, Robin Williams is the most likely result. He was the most googled thing in 2014 and I doubt the 99% of people who googled that would be looking for the canoeist, so it would make sense for the disambiguation page for Williams to be named so. You've also said that this is partially based on your view point, but you are doing this for the better of the wiki. The fact is, your view point is limited in this category. You've only played Skyrim, so the chance for you to search up Raven Rock (Bloodmoon) is much much lower than Raven Rock (Dragonborn. The majority of users would be looking for the Dragonborn version, but this does not make it any more important than the Bloodmoon version. If anyone is wondering "What if another version of Raven Rock is released in 5 years?" than the answer will quite obviously be that whichever page has the base name will be repurposed for the disambiguation.

If we make this change, it will be a hassle because we would have to rename EVERY page that has appeared in only 2 games and select one of them to be renamed to the base name. It's too much work, and would cause arguments because somebody would consider one page to be more important than the other while someone else would disagree. Now let's look at ESO. The game has over 10,000 NPCs, we've only scratched the surface with around 1,700 NPCs listed. What if after Tamriel Unlimited, the game's popularity would blow up and more people would be looking for Ivarstead (Online) than the Skyrim page for Ivarstead? In that case, we would have to rename Ivarstead (Online) to Ivarstead and Ivarstead to Ivarstead (Skyrim). The most likely thing to happen is that these would both be searched up in generally equal rates, so what then? How do we decide which page is more imporant than the other so that it retains the base name?

This entire idea is pointless and flawed in many many ways. The only thing I can agree on is for pages for provinces to gain disambiguation pages (i.e. Cyrodiil (disambiguation)) because we can't have pages like Cyrodiil (Province) floating around because we already have Cyrodiil (Online), and on top of that we also need Cyrodiil (Zone) to be created if a region like Colovia was added to the game. Yes, this also applies to Skyrim and Morrowind even more so because they have games named after them as well.