Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-27007772-20140611204941/@comment-25513154-20150619232947

Some of my points i forgot to put in my last post.

Where are the bounty posters for the Dragonborn, Ralof and Ulfric?

I wonder why they aren't in game? Even though it's mention quite a number of times as i recall.

It's strange- If the bounty posters was in game....wouldn't that mean the dragonborn would have a bounty for escaping Helgen's chopping block? Even "if" he goes with Hadvar.

Ulfric and quite a number of soldiers saw him. This Imperial deserter in RedWater Den remembers the db from Helgen. http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Imperial_Deserter

I like how that soldier deserted the empire for skooma/\ Must be the stress of realizing the curroption of cough the empire.

So if he saw the db wouldn't that mean General Tullius saw him. As a matter of fact he did, he instructed Hadvar to get to the "Keep soldier were leaving" the dragonborn was right there with Hadvar or running away from him.

Now with that said why would the dragonborn join the empire? He has a bounty from Helgen, he escapes with Ralof, kills thalmore because they keep interfairing and kills the Emperor. He's not even supposed to have the option to join the Empire, Elenwen would tell General Tullius of his war crimes. (but the realism of this game right)

Also why is it that the player gets a bounty for killing (or just hitting a) Thalmore around Imperial soliders, But if its a stormcloak the player would be "lucky" to get a hit in. I mean thats real curroption form the imperial soldiers right there and some people are in denial that its not there.

Here a few (if not all) of the reasons why imperial soldiers join the fight.

They just want to see the world. (They are just fighting...well for fighting, they have no reason to fight)

They couldn't watch the stormcloaks tear everything apart and not do something about it, most of their FAMILY disagrees with Their choice. (Remember Strife in the Imperial PROVINCE from Cicero, hint hint also it's clear no body really like the empire, the only people in game that like them are snoobs and ignorant/Evil Yarls/Housecarls)

For the Emperor Titus, oh wait he's dead...well still for the Emperor. (They don't even care about what/who they are fighting for, its sad really)

Here's what Legate Fasendril says about the fight.

 "But that's why we're here. To bring order and civilization, and to protect the people."

This kind of ignorant attitude "The empire is law, the law is Scared" causes a lot of Collateral damage. In Cyrodill, Skyrim and Hammerfell.

"Not everyone seems to want us here."
 * "Ulfric and his thugs are stirring up trouble for their own agenda. The Empire is the only thing keeping the Dominion from walking all over Skyrim. It matters little if some of the people here are ignorant to that truth. They are still citizens of the Empire. It's our solemn duty to protect them."

Notice this "THE EMPIRE IS THE ONLY THINGS KEEPING THE DOMINION FROM WALKING ALL OVER SKYRIM"

A blant lie, but what can the player expect from the dead Empire. He total forgets that its the stormcloaks protecting the other holds keeping those people save from the Dominion. The funny thing is he went on to say

"Back in 42 I was stationed in Hammerfell, on leave in Sentinel, trying to track down some refugee relatives who had fled persecution in Alinor. Suddenly an explosion of magic in the refugee quarter. Thalmor mages were attacking the Altmer dissidents who were resisting with magic of their own. I ran to the scene with other Legionaries who where stationed there, but the entire quarter was a smoking ruin by the time we arrived. Everyone was dead. Wholesale slaughter. The Dominion, not content with killing dissidents at home, came to Hammerfell to finish the job. We're supposedly at peace now. But I put in to be stationed here to keep an eye on the Thalmor. I've a feeling they're behind this unrest in Skyrim."

"The Dominion not content with killing dissidents at home, came to hammerfell to finish the job." So if they did that wouldn't that mean eventually they would get to skyrim, matter of fact they did with the Thalmore Embassy already made.

Notice also "KILLING DISSIDENTS AT HOME" Those collateral damages build up. Thats why Cicero said STIFE in the Imperial Province, no where there is safe at PRESENT.

He then goes on an dares say "We're supposedly at peace now" even though these killings/captures are happening by the hundreds by the Thalmore and the Empire everyday.

He also dares go on and say '' "I've a feeling they're behind this unrest in Skyrim." ''Like people aren't going to get agro or supposed to be agro about their family and friends being killed and captured/tortured for worshipping Talos (or sometimes nothing) to keep the snake down so all HUMANS on nirn can remain alive. The sad part of this is Tullius is even worst than this guy, The man doesn't care or want to hear about Talos and doesn't belive in Sovngarde-that means Shor. At the battle for solitude he just gave up like they did back at the Cyrodill. Even though it's been report many times of out numbered armies winning.

For the "glory" of the "Empire" tsk tsk

Now how about curroption.

How can a Curropt Empire defeat their puppet "masters"/ "Enemy" With Curroption and backstabing at its core? People like Amond mottire, Maven Blackbriar, Elisif and Erikiur Would just sell out and u know it. Plus the Thamlore invading the politics in cyrodill isn't a question.

Curroption can't beat Curroption.

Lastly About the db being a nord heres some extra proof that he's a nord.

At Helgen "if" the db was a High Elf he still goes to the chopping block. Even though it's unlikely that a High Elf would join the stormcloaks, he could have even being apart of the Domionin and they still tried to chop. The same goes for a khajiit. (Elenwen was there at that time)

In addition to this WUUTHRAD that Axe thats the bane of Elves, it should be weaking the player in combat if he was a High Elf, Bosmer, khajiit (classed as elves beast in lore) Dark elf, Orc, breton or even snow Elf.(But Dawngaurd said other wise)

He's not Imperial or Redgaurd because of that 50% resistance as i mention before. No way some Imperial can walk/stay in the snow points for such a long time without dieing. Same goes for Argoinians. (Properly even worst for them)