User talk:Atvelonis

Thanks
For confirming on that Ned, have a good day :)

SKiwa1ker1 (talk) 20:20, March 28, 2016 (UTC)

Edittools
Yo Ahtehve,

I was poking around yet again (I always do) and I noticed our edit tool mediawiki page had an extra div. To save myself the time of explaining where it is, I'll just do a copy/paste of what it's supposed to be so you don't have to worry about finding yourself as well.  Standard preloads (select a template to preload its contents):  Custom preload pagename:

 Insert:   Sign your username: 

Wiki markup:

Symbols:

Characters:

Greek:

The mediawiki page in question is here. I would go ahead and make the change myself, but regular users don't have access to editing mediawiki pages (For clear reasons) If need be, you can see what the edit looks like here.

Thanks.

Ivarstead
Atv,

A lot of characters in Ivarstead are essential for various quests (Mostly The Book of Love though). I don't know why Bethesda decided that was such an important quest, but I went on a rampage just recently - and all of the characters involved in that quest Skyrim-wide are essential. Just thought I should clarify that for you, no worries. I mean, maybe it's a bug, but I'm sure that they're essential.

- 02:58, March 30, 2016 (UTC)


 * Weird, must be a bug on my game then. Well, thanks for clearing that up, Atv; I couldn't have known, as I don't mess around with the Creation Kit enough to know that kind of thing. - 03:02, March 30, 2016 (UTC)

Hearthfire characters cat?
So Atv, another thing I've been wanting to ask: Should I create a Hearthfire: Characters category?

I've thought fot years, literally, that it's kind of odd that we don't have one, because then readers have no way of seeing a list of the characters added by Hearthfire. The cat would include the children, housecarls, etc. added by it. What do you think?

- 03:10, March 30, 2016 (UTC)


 * Alright, well if you say it's a moot topic, then a moot topic it is. Thanks Atv. - 03:16, March 30, 2016 (UTC)

My improvement
Hey Atv,

I've recently diagnosed all of these editing and chat mistakes with when they happen. They're all late at night, so I think I shouldn't edit or chat past 12 anymore. It's killing me. Hopefully, this will be a great improvement, because then I will always be in my fully functional state and I won't be the Brain Fart King anymore. Also, any other tips in general on how to improve?

- 13:35, March 30, 2016 (UTC)

PS do you have anything I could take care of? I desperately need a project and currently can't find one. Just give me something you've never seemed to get around to, like the lists for Online or the Daggerfall page renovations. Anything'd be great :D!


 * Ok, well I did find a project, as you probably saw. Also, "uk" looked like "ru" to me for some reason. I guess I still have brainfarts, but that's probably because of the sleep I'm missing. Need to make it up, I guess. 16:09, March 30, 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks Atv :D!! I do understand most of the things you said, and, coincidentally, I have been checking within the past day or two. But there is one thing I never thought of - and that's actually scanning contribs for all of these unspoken rules. Good luck getting me to read 70 moot logs ), but I can look at contribs. Thanks Atv!
 * - 12:14, March 31, 2016 (UTC)


 * Atv, sorry for bothering you again, I just have a lot of stuff I want to do, and I have to ask first of course :P. Here's the question: Should I actually create separate categories for the Dawnguard and Tribunal quest givers? I see just now that the other categories are now DLC-specific everywhere, so should the quest giver ones be too? Just give the word and I'll fix it :D. - 15:42, March 31, 2016 (UTC)

April Fools
Hey, so I was thinking for April Fools we could put the Adoring Fan as the Featured Article. The caption in the slider would be "By Azura, by Azura, by Azura, I'm the Featured Article! I can't believe it's me! Standing here, next to all these sliders!"

I'll make sure to write a satiric news post. Also, I don't know when we should start April Fools. 0:00 UTC or EST? Or, we could start it on the earliest time April Fools hits, which is UTC +14:00 and end the event at UTC -12:00. I prefer the latter, but whatever choice you think is best. ☞ Rim < Talk 03:52, April 1, 2016 (UTC)

Interwiki
Hi again :3

Can you also add these The Elder Scrolls Wikis to the mainpage —, , and ?

KeepingCalm 06:03, April 1, 2016 (UTC)

Portable Infobox check
Hello! I'm Isaac, and I'm representing our Portability Initiative here at Wikia. I know that we've talked with you a bit about your ongoing migration, and I was checking in to see if we could help this process on your community. I know that you're doing much of it yourself, but I also wanted to offer assistance if you were swamped with other foci. We'd really like to get working on your community, but we need your go-ahead. Also, if you have any questions, or this is the wrong venue for this kind of a discussion, please let me know. Thanks! FishTank (wall) 04:31, April 4, 2016 (UTC)

The Honors
Hey Atv,

You have the honor of replacing the last  I could find. It should be on the main page, hence why Im actually bothering you with this. If you could, swap it out with  for me. Thanks.


 * Oh, and six? here. Thanks again!

Ban evasion
Blut has continued to edit with his IP here. --Shockstorm (talk) 19:35, April 5, 2016 (UTC)

My sandbox.
Hey Atvel, when you get a chance could you look at my Sandbox and see if it's done or needs work? Thanks in advance. Starkiller131 (talk) 17:15, April 8, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Construction template
Thanks for the heads up, I'm terrible with templates though, as I'm forced to edit in source mode which makes it all that much harder. Raltin avarr (talk) 02:37, April 9, 2016 (UTC)raltin avarr

Hello!

Hey Atv, I had a slight suggestion for the Delete template. Why not make it so that the image also links to the deletion policy at Wikipedia, like the text does? Should just be replacing  to   if I remember correctly.

Oh, and if you dont mind: Remove the source section from it por favor. Quite sure we don't use it anymore -- If someone does want it, they could always just open up the editor and copy it even with it being locked.

Thanks,

Mediawiki:Chat.js
May want to revert that js. I don't think it's working quite as it's supposed to here. Not sure why, best to just chunk it for now I guess.

I'll run it through some tests. I didn't make it, so I'm not exactly sure whats causing the issue, but it's breaking every single youtube link in chat (Although the script itself works :D)


 * Nevermind, it's only my browser for some reason. My bad. I'm too crazy thats all

Deletion candidates need attention
Hey Atv,

There are 76 pages up for deletion at the moment, and I think that it's time that someone take a look at it. As I've put a few things there myself in the past couple days, I know that it's not all just messed-up mergers. There are definitely pages that need to be deleted. So, when you can, I greatly advise that you go through it. Till next time.

- 16:48, April 11, 2016 (UTC)


 * Alright man, thanks. I feel better now :). - 18:01, April 11, 2016 (UTC)

How do you create a new guild?
I was looking through some of the help pages, and I came across te guild help page. After looking through it, I realized that it didn't explain how to actually create a guild. Could you answer this for me?

Thanks Knight-Paladin Griffin (talk) 01:42, April 12, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Your Last Weekly Report
G'day

How do we suggest things for the Moot?

I'd like to suggest that the Wiki starts using Dynamic Tables and Message Walls rather than Talk pages.



Team Morrowind
Well Atvelonis, I was actually thinking of taking over Team Morrowind or Team Arena. I've played all of the games, but I'm not all that familiar with the lore of Arena, at least not as much as I am with Morrowind. And from what I've heard, the Morrowind pages need a little bit of help, and having an inactive team isn't helping. So Team Morrowind is the one that I would like to take over.

Thanks Knight-Paladin Griffin (talk) 01:38, April 13, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks
I understand the need to make sure I would be a capable leader. Thank you for replying and making this easy for me Atvelonis. I'll check back on it in about a week or so, per your recommendation.

Thanks Knight-Paladin Griffin (talk) 10:57, April 13, 2016 (UTC)

Daggerfall stuff
Hey, could you move Phyrgias to Phrygias over the redirect? Ned messed up on the name. Thanks.

Picture problem on article
Hey, I wanted to tell you about the picture for Idesa Sadri's article, because it needs to be replaced. She'd not wearing that outfit, and her face doesn't look like that, either. It looks like someone had a mod installed for a game that changed the color of clothes and then posted a picture for her article. One of what she really looks like should be posted instead. If you cannot, do you know someone who can? Thanks. Leea (talk) 11:23, April 15, 2016 (UTC)

Discussions
Hello Atvelonis,

I'm Karan42 from the wiki disscussions, I saw your post about the disscusion moderators and wanted to apply to be one.

The one thing I'm sure I can help in is the time difference, I live in India, so when the other mods and admins are offline I'll be online, so you will have mods around the clock.

Thank you,

Karan42 (talk) 04:22, April 19, 2016 (UTC)

Karan42

Bot requests
I had some ideas for the bot (will assist in categorization and consistency, and may fix some redlinks): ’ -> ' “ -> " ” -> "
 * For anything categorized as both Category:Redirects and one of its subcats, remove Category:Redirects.
 * Change weird apostrophes and quotation marks to the normal format used by most keyboards:

Btw, been working on a few things you might find interesting/helpful: --Shockstorm (talk) 17:25, April 19, 2016 (UTC)
 * Restoring valid/useful redirects I've found in deletion logs (about halfway done).
 * Fixed template placement used by flags on pages (by showing the most recent revisions from the wikia bot. This means some pages may have some templates pushing down images/infoboxes if someone else has edited them after wikia, but not a big deal).
 * Creating redirects for alternate names/titles for gods and other lore stuff.

Pelinal
The red diamond mentioned is not necessarily the Amulet of Kings, but as said, the Red Diamond (central gem of the amulet). Whether or not Kyne giving the Red Diamond to Alessia should be taken in an absolute literal sense, I can't say.

"[You] made the first rain at his sundering [and that] is what I ask now for our alien masters... [that] we might sunder them fully and repay their cruelty [by] dispersing them to drown in the Topal"

That line is Alessia's prayer to Kyne, asking for rain. This might be implying that "Kyne" giving Alessia the Red Diamond could be interpreted as the Red Diamond straight up falling from the sky, or raining, which makes sense when you bring in other sources into the mix.

''The laughing heart sprayed blood afar, A gout on Cyrod fell, And like a dart shot to its mark Down in an Ayleid Well. Magicka fused the Lorkhan blood To crystal red and strong Then Wild Elves cut and polished it down To Chim-el Adabal.''
 * Chim-El Adabal: A Ballad

This source basically states that the Red Diamond was formed from the blood of Lorkhan's Heart that literally rained from the sky, then was found by Ayleids and solidified into the gem long before Alessia's rebellion.

So it could be said that Kyne gifting the Red Diamond at Alessia's prayer might have just been a reference to the fact that the Diamond had, in the past, rained from the sky, and the prayer more accurately notes the activation of Pelinal from the Red Diamond. Mind you its also never specifically stated that Kyne directly gave Alessia the Red Diamond, but rather Pelinal arrives killing Ayleids before he even meets Alessia.

''"The Star-Made Knight" [and he] was arrayed in armor [from the future time]. And he walked into the jungles of Cyrod already killing, Morihaus stamping at his side froth-bloody and bellowing from excitement because the Pelinal was come... [and Pelinal] came to Perrif's camp of rebels holding a sword and mace"''

So really the Red Diamond had been a thing for a while but Alessia's prayers brought about Pelinal from the Diamond, which is his heart.

The Amulet of Kings is not a thing until accordingly either Akatosh or Shezarr forges and grants it to Alessia on her deathbed creating the covenant. The truth of this event is revealed at the end of the Song of Pelinal, where it is Pelinal (who had died) speaking to Alessia, who is in fact a representative for both Shezarr and Auriel (who are likely collectively meant to be Akatosh). So it is Pelinal, representing Akatosh, who fittingly uses his Heart to create the Amulet of Kings. This is likely why Alessia says she is the "sweet wife of Shor and of Auri-el" in the Remanada.

Dovahsebrom (talk) 02:08, April 21, 2016 (UTC)

Links in Quote boxes
What is the standard for adding links in quotes? The imperial battlemage added links to the quote in the Stormcrag Crypt page, but i removed them because i was under the impression that links do not belong in the quote boxes. Imperial battlemage later reverted my edit and said there was nothing in the style and formatting about that. Bronkiin later reverted Imperial battlemage's edit. They just reverted Bronkiin's edit, again saying there was nothing in the style and formatting about linking. He's right, i looked at the style and formatting guide and was unable to find anything about linking in quotes, so I'm going to leave the links in the quote for now, because there is a potential for an edit war on that page. The Cat Master (talk) 16:40, April 21, 2016 (UTC)


 * Another question. Does this thing belong in pages?  One of the people adding the Russian interwiki links keeps adding it when they add new ones to pages. The Cat Master (talk) 17:02, April 21, 2016 (UTC)

Public Notice (page)
Hey Atvel,

So today, while searching for a certain note regarding the Legion, I came across these two pages:

For public notice

Public Notice (Oblivion)

As you can see, the content is basically the same. It is not within my power to delete a page, so I ask if you would be so kind as to do it.

Greetings,

Blademaster Jauffre (talk) 20:17, April 24, 2016 (UTC)

Banned from chat
So I was kicked from the chat for spam, which I felt was justified and was ok with, but then I joined back and without saying anything was banned by lilith, just sort this out please because I should not be banned, thank you. DarkVaultBoi111 (talk) 22:28, April 24, 2016 (UTC)


 * Nvm qah was able to get the ban lifted DarkVaultBoi111 (talk) 23:33, April 24, 2016 (UTC)

Pic needed
Hey, I've found another article that needs a new picture: Summerset Shadow. It uses the same picture for Linwe's article, and the rest of the faction doesn't look like him, much less wear his armor. Leea (talk) 11:45, April 25, 2016 (UTC)

About his Ban (Noir)
Hi Atve, it's nice to see you again. Okay, I now this will probably get deleted as I was being such a childish dick back then, but I'd really like you to reconsider my ban and it's length. I understand that I was being a childish dick (on purpose) like I've said before, but I still think the ban should be shorten to around 6-12 months. I just really want to start editing for this wiki again, as it was so much fun and I can now continue that. Thanks in advance, and have a nice day. Zerospaced (talk) 10:05, April 28, 2016 (UTC) ( Just passing this along sense he asked)

(created) Page should be removed
Hey Atvel!

Sorry for being such a bother recently, but I have created this page Imperial Sanctuary Chimera Logistics Report

And well, it should be removed, the proper page has been listed in the page I have created, since I made a mistake.

Sorry if I don't make sense, not really thinking straight right now.

Blademaster Jauffre (talk) 20:25, April 30, 2016 (UTC)

Barenziah 3: The sequel
I was just wondering why there are thee pages for Barenziah, Barenziah and Barenziah (Tribunal), and Barenziah (Daggerfall). The Boy Who Cried Godzilla (talk) 01:31, May 1, 2016 (UTC)


 * Huh.It seems like there could just be a stat list, but whatever. Thanks for the clarification.The Boy Who Cried Godzilla (talk) 16:42, May 1, 2016 (UTC)

Problem with references!
Het Atvel!

Again, sorry for being such a bother lately, but I followed your advice with references, and tried to make my few reference on the High King page of the wiki. However, the reference would not work, I've tried everything that came to mind, but it seems like I still do something wrong. Any help is sincerely appreciated! (And yes, I did check your message on my talk page)

Blademaster Jauffre (talk) 19:28, May 1, 2016 (UTC)


 * Nevermind, for some reason the reference started working after a minute or so.


 * Blademaster Jauffre (talk) 19:30, May 1, 2016 (UTC)