Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-209.7.3.188-20160303204000/@comment-30011802-20161103021203

Some more support, Ulfric and his men fought for their people with the promise that they would be allowed to worship Talos, despite the law. They were betrayed and arrested. They probably would've been executed there had they not escaped. I'd start a rebellion too if my government screwed me like that.

Not ALL stormcloaks are racist. Do a lot of them show preference to their own people? Absolutely. During times of war, it's only natural to show a bit of pride for your own people. Some people will take it too far and that is lamentable, but racism on a national scale does not usually last forever. There will always be racists, but it will not remain government policy forever if they expect to get anything accomplished.

A lot of people are comparing stormcloaks to Nazis. This is ridiculous. The stormcloaks aren't the ones rounding up people based on race or religion for execution. That's the Thalmor doing it to the Nords. Will racial tensions be high for a while? Of course. But once the empire is driven off and the nords start to rebuild their lives, I have a feeling that they'll start to ease up on the other races. They've lived with them for generations after all. Many nords who support the stormcloaks also live with and love other races.

I always hear people talk about how those stormcloaks were harassing that dark elf woman in Windhelm. Was that wrong? Absolutely. Those guards were dbags but they're not the entire nord population. You can't judge a group baced on a couple of low rank idiots. No one mentions the Battle-Born harassing the old woman worried about her son. They support the empire. One of them is wearing imperial armor so I assume he's in the legion. They basically tell the woman if she doesn't shut up she'll be executed for treason. Is that good? Absolutely not. You can't judge the entire empire based on this but you can certainly use that as a counter-argument for the windhelm incident.

Many claim the empire will collapse from the instability if Skyrim leaves the empire. Good. Let it crumble. The Empire has failed and the Thalmor have already won. The "peace treaty" is nothing more than fancy terms of surrender. Like it or not, the Thalmor are the ones running the show now. They just let the public think the Empire still has a say. All sings in Skyrim show that they do not.

It's time for the other nations to take care of their own. They won't lie down so easily and I think some of you put too much faith in the Thalmor's ability to conquer every rogue nation they encounter. Without imperial support the Thalmor wil be figthing a war on numerous fronts and they will lose.

Just look at skyrim. All those mountains forests and caves and ruins? Perfect places to set up gorilla hideouts. The Thalmor will end up like the British fighting the colonists. They will stand no chance of conquering Skyrim without imperial support.

My final gripe agains the Empire. Torture Chambers and public executions. It's time for these lackeys to the Dominion to be brought down.

Rise up Sons and Daughters of Skyrim! Tear down the crumbling walls of the empire that would brand you a traitor for your beliefs! Drive out the dogs who would snap at your heels for living your life as your fathers before you have for generations! And when the Dominion comes to claim our lands we will strike back from every corner of our domain!

Many may fall in battle, yet Sovngarde shall be their reward. And for those of us who remain among the living. We will rise up from the ashes. We will rebuild. And we will be FREE!