The Elder Scrolls Wiki talk:Policies and Guidelines/Archive 1

Change request
The editing FAQ wikilink in the "Creating or editing a page" section should probably link to The Elder Scrolls Wiki:FAQ, should it not?

(Additionally, is there no Edit protected template here?) SuperGiraffe (talk) 11:50, November 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Err ... Yes, that it should. ANd No, there there isnt one yet, unfortunately. I'm not really "wiki" enough to know what they should say. If you are, though, feel free to make them :) Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•See current projects 11:53, November 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the swift response! Either way, can you also remove the "even this page!" from the beginning of the aforementioned section? At least that or make it editable ;o) I'm not good enough at the parser functions etc used in the creation of such templates... It will need to create a backlog style category for those able to edit the pages also, else there's not much point in having the message!  Super  Giraffe  11:57, November 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Er ... sorry about the delay now. Um ... I have changed that section. Also - congrats! I dont think I understood a single word you said in that last sentence :D Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•Skyrim To-Do List 16:31, November 24, 2011 (UTC)

Disambiguation in page titles
Hi, before I arrived at this wiki I saw that there was wide variation in page titling. I was hoping to nail that down logically, and I am interested to see if anyone agrees or disagrees. Pages should always be titled as naturally as possible, but that all depends on context.

In-game proper nouns should always be disambiguated with parenthesis, to indicate that the last bit of info is not part of their actual title. For example Dark Brotherhood (Skyrim). There is no point in the game where they are called Dark Brotherhood Skyrim, or Skyrim Dark Brotherhood, so these are not proper page titles.

Real-world pages should always be disambiguated naturally. For example, Console Commands (Oblivion). Logically, this should be Oblivion Console Commands. We know that this is for a game called Oblivion, unlike the characters in the game, and in our real-world context this is a natural way to refer to them. We know that there are other Console Commands for other games, and we understand the need to disambiguate. In conversation, we would not say the words "Console Commands" and then whisper Oblivion to the other person. To differentiate from other commands, we would say Oblivion Console Commands; it is the most natural way to say this. Similarly, Morrowind Bugs has the same info as Bugs (Morrowind), but stated naturally.

Disambiguation is not about putting the article at the best title. Disambiguation means that the best title might confuse you, so you want to put it at the second-best title. Maybe Bugs would be the best title in a Morrowind world, but since there are other bugs in this world, Morrowind Bugs is the next-best thing.

I realize that WP often confuses the two, but that doesn't mean that every wiki on the planet should. Also, maybe nobody cares. I am willing to accept that as well. ▫  JohnnyMrNinja   talk 10:41, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Discussion
Has already occurred on IRC. Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•Skyrim To-Do List 07:12, January 27, 2012 (UTC)

Two corrections.
Two corrections: first of all, the main topic title denominated "Language; Grammar and other mistakes" uses improper punctuation and capitalization. The semi-colon can only be used to separate independent clauses, only acting as "super-comma" on lists that already present commas (e.g. - "I've been to several cities in my life, such as Tokyo, Japan; London, England and Paris, France"). Adding up, the use of capital letters after a comma is improper, except on the special capitalization cases (such as useage of proper names). This is the first correction that should be done.

Secondly, take a look onto the text inside the "Adding videos" category. I bring your attention to the following line:

"Due to the high amount of videos which contain strong language, excessive self-promotion, off-theme or unrelated commentary, poor quality, etc; All links to an externally hosted video will only be added in article pages if they meet  all  the criteras below: [...]"

Firstly, we face, once more, an improper utilization of a semi-colon OR an improper case of capitalization (on this case, you can either mantain the semi-colon, as long as you do not capitalize the word "all" OR change the semi-colon to a period, which would be the best measure according to the usual English grammar). Secondly, the word "criteria" is misspelled, written as "criteras", lacking a letter I. I might also bring to your attention that "criteria" is already a plural word, such as "data" (singular form: criterion), thus, the S on the end of the word as inputted is another incorrection that should be fixed. That's all for now. 189.35.33.159 22:07, February 2, 2012 (UTC)

UESP images
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_Wiki:Policies_and_guidelines?diff=386044&oldid=386041

Can we please restore what Timeoin removed? The users at UESP should be attributed. Photographs generally belong to the photographer. Effort goes into those screenshots. --Michaeldsuarez (Talk) (Deeds) 13:26, May 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * If Timeoin removed it, it was for a good reason. UESP images ARE attributed, but the image does NOT belong to the photographer, it belongs to Bethesda. Any screenshot that contains anything contained within or related to any of the Elder Scrolls games belongs to Bethesda. It doesn't take a lot of effort to hit the print screen key, either. We will not attribute screenshots from UESP to the user that took the screenshot, instead we attribute the image with a disclaimer saying that the image is from UESP and we do our best to replace it with an original screenshot.  HaLo2FrEeEk  Here I am! 13:34, May 2, 2012 (UTC)

Skyrim Arena help please....Is there a fighting Arena in Skyrim? Could you point me in the right direction? Many thanks 86.143.68.216 11:03, June 2, 2012 (UTC)

protection request Prophet. i started the page and its compleatly done but people cant help but add in a word here n there.

can someone help me with the blood on the ice quest please Lz483 (talk) 19:13, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

Response: User Images
I couldn't find the user page image policy. Not saying it isn't there, I'm just bad at finding things. Could you link me to the policy for reference please?

--The Milkman | I always deliver. 21:06, September 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * It's right here. 21:13, September 1, 2012 (UTC)

Copyright
Hello. The page on Garakh appears to be a verbatim copy of text from the character's page on UESP wiki. (The small part that is not once was, I believe). Please check and, if so, rephrase your information or attribute to UESP per its copyright policy. Thanks. 175.98.87.192 17:27, November 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I will remove the information at once. Jimeee (talk) 17:31, November 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks. But take your time. It's not a federal case (or should I say provincial?) Happy fellow wikiing. 175.98.87.192 17:37, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

Armor type?
Does anyone know what kind of armor this is?

Badges
How do I get rid of the stupid things? They are an irritation in games that are cross-platform developed/ported, and they are an irritation here. Just let me turn them off so I can't see them and never know when I acquire one. GlassDeviant (talk) 13:55, April 22, 2013 (UTC)