Talk:Jagar Tharn (Arena)/Archive 1

He tricked Queen Barenziah of Mournhold into gaining him access into Old Mournhold, where the Staff of Chaos was hidden. She was fairly ignorent of what was really happening.XtiousGuildlord 15:28, October 24, 2009 (UTC)
 * Tharn tricked many people, including the Emperor himself. Are you saying that anyone who falls into a trap is ignorant? --Michaeldsuarez (Talk) (Deeds) 10:35, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

To me ignorance is a lack of knowledge. Barenzia thought the nightingale was after a different artifact and would not have granted him access to the caves had she known what was really down there. Do I think Barenzia was stupid? No. Do I think anyone who falls into a trap is ignorant? I guess by definition they have to be; otherwise the trap would fail.XtiousGuildlord 13:38, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

I digress… My point was that the Nightingale did not trick her into showing him the way; he knew the way and the method to recover the staff. What he needed was to get past the guards; which he used Barenzia to accomplish. XtiousGuildlord 13:43, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Nightingale
Why is this page a redict for Nightingale? Kacj321||Project Zomboid Wikia||The Elder Scrolls Wikia 20:04, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

Pronunciation of his name ?
How do you Pronounce it ? ive always said the J as a Y, like Bjorn .. so i would say YAY-GAR tharn, but i dont think im saying it right ... is JA-GAR or YAY-GAR ?


 * I personally have always pronounced it JAY-GAR, seems most logical to me.  HaLo2FrEeEk  Here I am! 19:17, March 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * If it is pronouced like the real name, it is YAH-ger, like in the Germanic pronouciation. I do not know if it was ever said outloud canonically though. Jnzooger (talk) 12:38, November 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * (Edit to the above) Just watched the introduction of Battlespire again where they say it as JAG-er, so as far as I know, this is correct, though strange to me. Jnzooger (talk) 12:14, November 18, 2013 (UTC)