Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-10993011-20130618024431/@comment-8248675-20130726212131

I agree that Mede Dynasty have less claim to Ruby Throne then someone with Dragon blood as in Royal Blood of Dragonborn Emperors. Also, Mede Dynasty takes roots in anything but royalty, unless Colovian Warmongers considered royalty. However, Emperor Titus Mede II, cannot be held responsible for sins of his fore fathers, who claimed Ruby Throne some 200 years earlier, as a result of interegnum strugle. In the way, that was quite like Stormcrown Interregnum, the only problem was that the winner of the Throne, was not a Dragonborn. I am not sure if destruction of Amulet of Kings truly means that there will be no more Dragonborn Emperors and if they are trully needed now that Oblivion gates are shut. I cannot even say if Martin Septim Sacrafice did closed the Oblivion Gates foreever. I just don't think that Titus Mede II should be judged by the way that his ancestors took the throne. Also, I don't think it was part of the plan to have Hammerfell split up from Empire, they just had to let Thalmor have part of Hammerfell for peace treaty. Also, I am not quite certain weather that was intended to be temporary even by Thalmor. I don't think they give the details of how exactly Hammerfell split from Empire, was there an uprising similar to Skyrim? Did Empire let Hammerfell split up? I do know that they did not let Thalmor have entire Hammerfell, only the areas that they occupied during war. Redguards didn't like that curse of events, Hammerfell split up from Empire and Redguards kicked Thalmor out of Hammerfell. Did Emprire intended it to go like that? That I cannot say. However, it doesn't seem that they want Skyrim to follow the same road Hammerfell did. Besides, I don't think Thalmor took it lightly when Hammerfell decalred independence and kicked Thalmor out of Hammerfell. They might be blaming Empire for allowing that to happen and it probably endangered the peace between Empire and Aldmeri Dominion greatly. More then likely Thalmor putting great degree of pressure on Titus Mede II, to keep Skyrim witin the Empire. I am sure it is in Thalmor's best interest to keep human provinces from worshiping Talos as long as they can. With Skyrim independant, it would be only Cyrodil and High Rock for Thalmor to control religion in. However, at the same time, Thalmor wants Empire to grow weaker. It is quite possible, that Thalmor interested in the stalemate for as long as possible between Legion and Stormcloaks. They don't want Skyrim to split up from Empire, but they also want Legion to suffer losses to weaken Imperial military. In other words Thalmor are playing pupeteers with both Empire and Stormcloaks during the rebelion. Now does Empire realize that? That is hard to say. From the way I can tell, Ulfric definetly doesn't seem to realize that by keeping rebelion going, he playing into Thalmor's hand. If I were Ulfric and General Talius, I would come up to a secret agreement to do something about Thalmor. Unfortunately that may not be possible, since Ulfric did murder High King. Weather or not it was the best thing to do, it was still a murder no matter how you look at it. Empire cannot over look that. Yes Nordic tradition state tha Jarls can challenge each other and even kill one another, but it would seem to be outdated. Ulfric didn't need to kill Toryg to prove his point, just fight him into submission to show that Toryg was weak and give everyone something to think about. Appearantly it seemed that Toryg himself wanted to have Skyrim to be independant, if Ulfric just talked to him and asked Toryg to declare independance instead of challenging him, who knows? Although it also seem that Ulfric didn't do it just to show Toryg's weakness and how Skyrim needs to be independant, more then likely he just wanted title of High King for himself. That is also open to debate, but I am talking far too much and far too long here, so I should stop for now and I meant no dissrespect to anyone here.