User blog comment:Thedoucheinthenorth/A question of morality/@comment-68.20.166.62-20121213204901/@comment-5135631-20121216163537

Now, they DID DEFEAT the AD because they forced them out of Hammerfell. The AD's objective was to conquer the majority of Southern Hammerfell. Since they failed at doing that and were forced out of the country, they lost. It was a defeat. Same in Vietnam. The Americans lost because they failed at their objective.