User talk:Blademaster Jauffre



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Fourth Legion
Oh man that's really embarrassing. Thank you again. —Atvelonis (talk) 22:10, November 7, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Morrowind Characters
Are you referring to the preload templates? Everything in those is suggested for articles, but if it doesn't apply to the page you're making then you can remove it. So for example if the character is not a merchant, you don't have to keep any of those merchant sections. The Morrowind one is a little more complicated than some of the other ones but I don't know the reason for this. So you can keep using the preload templates but only keep the sections you're going to add information to. —Atvelonis (talk) 16:09, December 18, 2015 (UTC)

Augurius Bucco
Hi Jauffre. When you're making a lore page like Augurius Bucco, you have to include references to where the information is coming from. Now, I know that the stuff on there is coming from the The Blackwater War books, but readers don't know that, and they can't read the source text if it isn't linked. Plus, not referencing things makes us look sloppy and unorganized, which is what we should try to avoid. I don't know how familiar you are with references in general, but here's how to make a regular reference:

Bucco commanded the Fourth Legion.

You'll notice very soon that you'll have to reference the same book more than once. Here's how to properly do this:

Bucco commanded the Fourth Legion.

Then, when you want to make another reference to that same text later in the article you're writing, you'd just have to do this:

He was a young and charismatic commander.

Don't forget the / at the end if you're using this trick in particular, otherwise it won't work. Anyway, if you're going to be using any references, you also have to insert at the very bottom of the article so that the references have somewhere to appear.

Some other things: if you're going to continue editing I would HIGHLY suggest you do not use Visual Editor in articles. It creates a significant amount of useless  codes for example, which you can see here, and we have to clean it all up. I would recommend using Source Editor instead of Visual, as it is a lot more stable and offers a lot more features. To do this, go to your preferences -> Editing -> Editing experience -> Preferred editor -> Source editor, then hit Save at the bottom. You may or may not see color highlights in the code when you edit. These can be disabled by selecting the "Do not show syntax highlighting in Source mode" box just under that, if you don't like them.

One last thing—when writing lore articles in general, you want to paraphrase and summarize, not copy directly from the sources. They are usually not written the best and even if they are the only time you should be directly quoting a text is if you're actually using the Quote template. If you're ever unsure of how to properly format something, take a look at an article written by Dovahsebrom such as Reman Empire or Alessian Order etc., as they are near-perfect, or ask an administrator about it—we'll do our best to help. —Atvelonis (talk) 23:20, January 26, 2016 (UTC)


 * Also, forgot to mention this in my previous message, but it's a good idea to organize an article into specific topics which you differentiate using headers. I'll likely end up rewriting the page at some point, but in the future you should be a little more watchful with how you write lore pages. It might be a good idea to use a sandbox page like a lot of us have (either on our userpages or on a subpage of that), as that will give you somewhere to experiment with different approaches and all. —Atvelonis (talk) 03:56, January 27, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Aldmeri Navy
Re-read comment #42 of the thread, I already explained that. I edited it in bold and italics and underlined it, since you seem to keep missing it over and over again.

Unless you have proof to counter that, stop contacting me. This is getting old.  DRAEVAN13  15:44, February 7, 2016 (UTC)


 * Jauffre, you seriously believe the Thalmor could cover every inch of Tamriel with just their soldiers? How many Elves do you fit on Summerset's main island(s)?


 * Why didn't they conquer Tamriel long before Tiber Septim if they're apparently this unstoppable and have practically an unlimited amount of mer-power and resources? Why can the Ebonheart Pact and the Dagger Convenant in ESO put up a fight against them, if the scales of power were that much in their favour, they ALONE could conqueror Tamriel completely? Does that make much sense to you?


 * I don't think it does, personally. Zippertrain85 (talk) 16:06, February 7, 2016 (UTC)


 * (I'm going to butt in here for a second, sorry) The Aldmeri Dominion in ESO is a completely different thing. The only thing it has in common with the later two "Aldmeri Dominions" is the name and kind of the same general goal of High Elven supremacy. —Atvelonis (talk) 21:26, February 8, 2016 (UTC)

Imperial Legion Archer (Oblivion)
I marked the article you created for deletion because we already had an article about that character. (See: Imperial Legion Archer) I moved the info from the article you started to the original. If you want to add more info about this dude, you can add it to that page. The Cat Master (talk) 23:16, February 12, 2016 (UTC)

Roads
Jauffre, you need to give a specific source for the information you added here. "The Arcane University" is not specific in any way, as there are a lot of books there. If you give me a source or add it yourself the information can remain on the page, but until then it's staying reverted. Thank you. —Atvelonis (talk) 02:19, February 17, 2016 (UTC)


 * I looked it up in the Construction Set and found the dialogue, so I've re-added the information about the roads now. And yeah, you may want to invest some time into adding dialogue to the NPC pages as well so that there is something to use as a reference in the future. —Atvelonis (talk) 16:52, February 20, 2016 (UTC)

Re: The Bastion Tower
What is the name of the entire tower in the game? From what i understand from your message, the intent of that page was to cover only the lower section. If that is the case, we don't create separate pages for each sublocation of a building. According to UESP, the whole building is called The Bastion, hence the renaming. Of course they could be wrong. I don't have access to the game at the moment, so i can't confirm the building's name myself. If you let me know what the entire building is called I will rename the page back to The Bastion Tower, or leave it as The Bastion depending on what it's called in the game. The Cat Master (talk) 21:03, February 26, 2016 (UTC)


 * What is the name of the whole building? I get that the lower part of it is called The Bastion and the the upper tower part is called The Bastion Tower, but are they not sublocations of one building. The Elder Council Chambers is a sublocation of the overall White-Gold Tower/Imperial Palace, which also includes the Palace Basement, Imperial Guard Quarters, Elder Scrolls Library, Moth Priest's Quarters and the Imperial Battlemage's Chambers. The Cat Master (talk) 22:50, February 26, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary (Elsweyr)
Wow! they are similar. Even though the original was created in 2013, I think yours is written a little bit better. There is also the matter of the spelling of Corinth. There are two spellings and Corinth and Corinthe, and both appear to be correct. The 2013 version uses Corinth without the "e", while the page you created used Corinthe, which is how it is spelled in Cicero's Journal, Volume II. I need to think how to handle that. My first instinct is to mark the original page for deletion, and keep the one you created. However, I may rename yours to Corinthe Sanctuary, mainly because i don't believe we need the The in the title, but that's not too important. Thank you for bringing that to my attention. The Cat Master (talk) 22:24, February 29, 2016 (UTC)

Attitude
Hi Jauffre, I've seen that you've been a little to rough on some users, such as on this thread. In a debate, there's no need to make things personal. I kindly ask you to be less aggressive, as you've insulted several users already. Thanks.
 * "Bloody" is not what I'm referring to. Several users, including multiple staff members all agree that you attitude in several threads is too mean spirited. As for Bronkiin, the only thing he's done wrong was say what you wrote was "rubbish". This is a single offense, and in addition when I asked you to tone down you didn't. While you didn't insult him much in that thread, I have reports of it happening in other threads. So again, please be less aggressive. Thanks.


 * He didn't insult you, he complained/made a joke about the posts. Was it rough? Yes. No insult though. You're misunderstanding me. It's not just the civil war thread. Again, I have heard by multiple users that you had a bad attitude. Your posts on my talk page are examples of that. I'm asking you again to tone it down. Thanks.


 * Why do you keep mentioning me? Otto is warning you about your aggressive and sarcastic demeanor across multiple threads, not just the one I'm also on. Our interactions are 5% of the problem. At this point you have been warned politely to tone it down. I recommend ceasing with your sarcastic replies on Otto's talkpage and listening. The next step after a warning is a ban. Bronkiin (talk) 16:25, March 12, 2016 (UTC)
 * As Bronkiin here stated, once again, tone it down. I shouldn't have to show you proof, since this is simply a suggestion. Fine. I'll get other users here and point out threads to show you proof. Here a place to start.


 * Here is more evidence of his bad attitude for you; more proof. In that thread I tried to calmly state my point but when it didn't agree with his Blademaster Jauffre became aggressive and insulting. It seems he can't handle anyone with a conflicting opinion - I acknowledged the truth in some of his replies but he routinely insulted me and stubbornly stuck to his point refusing to even acknowledge the virtues in a differing one. Enigma24 (talk) 11:47, April 9, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Septim Empire
Dear Jauffre,

Sorry for not leaving a reason, rollback doesn't leave a "reason" option and I should have been faster to mention it on your talkpage. The removal was largely a combination of reasons between spelling and accuracy/precision of information that was available. To say that Morrowind "joined"/was "conquered" is actually probably too simplistic. Indeed, that combined with the fact that specific dates don't exist for the points most of the provinces joined the Empire, the table starts to become slightly unnecessary. Fundamentally, however a phenomenon as complex as the creation of the Septim Empire cannot really be put into a table with the level of professionalism and accuracy needed on a wiki. Perhaps prose may be more appropriate?

Regards,

Bronkiin (talk) 21:26, April 9, 2016 (UTC)


 * Yes, something as complex as the Septim Conquests and the foundation of the Empire would be very tricky to put into a table. Tiber Septim did conquer most of the Provinces but Morrowind and the Dunmer have always been a special case. Nothing is every simple where the Dunmer are concerned. Enigma24 (talk) 21:31, April 9, 2016 (UTC)

Block
Hi Jauffre. I'm going to have to inform you that you've been blocked from the wiki for a period of two weeks. This is not something I enjoy interfering with, but you're going to have to cut down the level of hostility, rudeness, and overall disrespect in your comments. You have been asked multiple times by staff members and regular users alike to be less of an ass in your comments. However, you have not done so. I'm not going to bother quoting all of the comments in question as there are quite a lot. You know exactly what I'm talking about. The vibe that I'm getting from your comments is that you think you are above the rules for some reason. Please take your time off to re-read the rules and reconsider the way you get your thoughts across. Thank you. —Atvelonis (talk) 22:10, April 9, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Public Notice (page)
I've deleted the For public notice page now. Thanks for letting me know. —Atvelonis (talk) 20:33, April 24, 2016 (UTC)


 * Deleted the other one too, thanks again. —Atvelonis (talk) 16:22, May 1, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Bronkiin is getting on my nerves
Your initial edit looks fine. I think he saw the edit summary you left and reverted it based off of that, rather than the actual content of your edit. He came to me on Steam earlier and we worked out a solution, and decided that it should probably be removed anyway since it was rather speculative. Bron reverted his edit so it's fixed now.

Thanks for coming to me with this instead of edit warring with him, you saved us all some trouble. —Atvelonis (talk) 23:06, May 1, 2016 (UTC)

Actually, it goes both ways. If you can't deal with a single reversion without throwing a fit and posting pointless walls of text in an attempt to get someone in trouble, then it's time for you to reexamine your behavior (unless you're wanting to get another block, ofc). --Shockstorm (talk) 23:58, May 1, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Irrelevant
You're right. thanks for pointing that out. The Cat Master (talk) 16:54, May 2, 2016 (UTC)

Hi, sorry bout that. but i don't understand why it's irrelevant. The events that are decribed just below the pic i added were related (calm is restored to cyrodiil after oblivion) it was a pic of cyrodiil? thanks for leting me know so i don't do the same mistake in the future. AgentOfMara (talk) 19:35, May 2, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Thanks for the reply, no it's ok, you might be right. I though it was a nice header, but i don't mind either way. :)

AgentOfMara (talk) 19:43, May 2, 2016 (UTC)

Your issues
Hey Jauffre,

When you're adding a refs tag to pages, you're tending to add  around refs tags. This is causing your reference tags to break and not work. However, I don't think you're causing the mistake.

Judging from the fact I used to have a simular issue with my signatures and nowiki tags, I'm predicting you're using the classical editor. The classical editor is known to have bugs, namely with categories, however, that issue with nowiki also exists. As such, for editing, I recommend you switch your editor to the source editor via going to preferences and changing it. You can find that here.

If you still have issues with editing, including anything not relating to ref tags, free free to drop me a message at my talkpage or any one of the staff.


 * You're adding reference tags perfectly, minus the nowiki tags that are being added. If you haven't already, try to do what I said above. I'm not sure if you tried it or not, as I haven't gotten any form of confirmation from you on that. If that doesn't solve the issue, try to join chat please. Thanks.
 * And we sincerely request that you stop leaving litigious nonsense on people's talk pages or adding speculation to the wiki. --Shockstorm (talk) 20:55, May 7, 2016 (UTC)

imperial/stormcloak debate points
I have seen your post on my talk page and I appreciate your offer. I am already very active in stormcloak/imperial debates, and I think most of the points I would be given I would already know. For this reason I am declining. Thanks anyway. The imperial battlemage (talk) 5:10, May 7th, 2015 (UTC)

Re:Pfft
Dear Jauffre,

Alternate accounts are totally outlawed on this wiki and will result in bans for both accounts. The admins do not know about my "Shockstorm" account, so please keep that quiet.

Regards,

Bronkiin (talk) 02:00, May 8, 2016 (UTC)

Bronkiin
I am positive that Shockstorm and Bronkiin are in fact different people. They have this joke that they are the same person which isn't meant to be taken seriously. Bron is now claiming on his profile that he is the same person as Shock, Kora, Crusader, Sajuuk, Jimeee, Jyggalag, and myself, which should be a dead giveaway that he is joking. The sheer absurdity of putting that much effort into that many alternate accounts for that amount of time should be a pretty big hint that you've fallen for something. It would be best if you dropped the matter entirely as it is obvious that you misunderstood it. —Atvelonis (talk) 01:49, May 11, 2016 (UTC)

Blades membership
Salutations Jauffre. As you know, membership in the Emperor's personal guard is an incredibly high honor and responsibility. It has come to our attention that you may not actually be a legitimate member of the Blades at all. If you are in fact an official Blade, please send proof to the admin's headquarters in the Imperial Palace. Materials sent without the seal of Weynon Priory will not be accepted. Thank you. --Shockstorm (talk) 02:33, May 11, 2016 (UTC)

Re:Admin
Jauffre, the very first message I posted on your wall was meant to be so ridiculous that you would know instantly it was a joke. Everyone else did. I absolutely could not believe you fell for it. I've been trying to tell you now for three days that we are not the same person, so what exactly do you want Atv to put a stop to? Even more amusing is the charge of harassment. You've repeatedly refused to listen to reason the last three days, spamming my talkpage with nonsense about the "game" being "up". So no, you trying to convince me I'm an alt on my own talkpage does not count as me harassing you. Now cut it out. You have made yourself the laughing stock of this wiki over the last few days. For me, it stopped being funny a while back, hence I asked Atv to message you. Stop digging your hole deeper, and don't tell Atv how to do his job.

Bronkiin (talk) 15:28, May 11, 2016 (UTC)

What if I told you... That I was a talking duck?
"It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled"

- Mark Twain

Me and several others have been following your talk page messages. At first it seemed harmless and was a bit entertaining seeing yourself not being able to sleep at night and going out of your way to blow on the flames trying to make it bigger. Lately it has been exceedingly annoying and now it's just disruptive. So 1 or 2 guys make a joke once that they were the same person? Hmm... I am pretty sure I have made that same joke at least once or twice, same as every other dude that goes on chat but no one ever falls for it. For some reason you think they really are the same and/or they are actually trying to behave similarly to fuel that one joke, all for you? Are you like some overly-attached-fan of that joke? Bronkiin has been trying to point out how silly you sound each time you message him but you just seem to be stuck so far deep in the hole you've made, you'd rather turn into a Falmer than dig yourself out and just stay blind to all the silliness. To be frank, I don't really like Bronkiin much, we have a lot of disagreements so this isn't me trying to defend him, you are the one whose doing this to yourself. Please stop... 15:40, May 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * This is ridiculous. I've known Shock and Bron since I came here. Shockstorm has been an editor for years before Bronkiin. Check both of their editing histories. Both have edited at the same time a lot.


 * But wait, maybe this is some big scheme by them; he built up his accounts ultimately for this reveal. Bron and Shock are obviously alts. They've certainly done nothing for this wiki. Those like 70k+ edits are all spam.


 * Just no. A joke from start to finish, every person on this wiki has seen that. You've taken a simple prank and turned it into a flame war. Congratulations.


 * It's quite obvious you're trying to cause trouble. Everything Bron and Shock have done is to help the wiki. As a user who has been blocked for hostile behavior, you are in no place to make such accusations. All of this nonsense was for nothing. If your plan was to get rid of Bron, it won't work. If your plan was to cause backlash, then bravo. You've succeeded.


 * Telling one of the best admins we've ever had on this wiki how to do their job is absolutely disgraceful. Atvelonis knows what he is doing. Bron and Shock know what they are doing. You claim to be an administrator before. Act like one. These pointless accusations and provocation on your end is exactly that: pointless.


 * So the staff here are corrupt. Great. Thanks. Get fucking real. The staff here are competent. Thus, Bron and Shock are not blocked. Why? Because they are not alts.


 * But what do I know? I'm just the neighborhood moderator. I know nothing and am corrupt. Maybe I'm Atvelonis's alt and just don't know it yet.


 * Hmm, let's see...You haven't supplied any proof of Bronkiin breaking rules. If you meant the joke about alts, then that's not proof at all. Users here joke about being alts all the time. Crusader jokingly calls himself SuperSajuuk and Qahnaaran1997 all the time. It doesn't harm anyone, nor does it break the rules. As for your ban, we had evidence. I brought it up to both you and Atv multiple times how you were hostile. We had every reason to ban you for your hostile behavior. You claim to "know" that the ban was not justified and that Bron broke the rules, but yet you're the one who supplies no proof of this.

About Brok and shockstorm.
Dear, Blademaster. They are NOT the same person. It's a joke between brokiin and shockstorm. Let's look at the facts here, shock's account has been around since 2012. Bron's account since 2015. If they were the same person, don't you think staff from the past and the present would have investigated by now? Another fact I will make is they live in different parts of the world. Shock living in texas, and bron living in the untied Kingdom. If you actually believe they're the same person then feel free too use this link and have wikia staff conduct a IP check. Starkiller131 (talk) 20:02, May 11, 2016 (UTC)


 * Gullibility is not evidence, all you have is your twisted belief that they are the same person. Admins and everyone else are denying your claims because it is silly. This is all because you dislike Bronkiin and you are trying to make him look bad, nothing more. If you actually believe they are the same person (I am sad for you) then why not ask a wikia staff to check their IPs? Specially since you insist he broke ToU (which he didn't). Impersonating someone is not the same as making a joke about it. I'd be happy to see REAL evidence because that would prove you wrong, and after all this freaking drama you've caused, it could actually get you blocked, not them. 20:13, May 11, 2016 (UTC)