Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-6702118-20140722142914/@comment-82.120.38.34-20150428054932

Sothas wrote: Let's start at the beginning. When Lorkhan was slain his Heart was ripper out and thrown into the sea on the other side of Tamriel. It created a volcano and a Tower, Red Mountain. His body was torn in two and thrown into the sky becoming the moons. His divine spark was given to/taken by the daedra and they shoved it into Jyggalag making Sheogorath His soul was left to wander and be affected by mythopoeism. This is where Shor, Sheor, Shezarr, and Shezarrines come into play. Lorkhan isn't Mundus, his Heart was given to it to stabilize it and it became the Heart of Nirn. Other myth echo implications with Anu/Padomay/Nir exist here too.

Talos mantled Lorkhan but due to him achieving CHIM he was able to maintain his identity.

Alduin = Akatosh's brother isn't quite right. They're pieces of the same being that was sundered. Alduin never says he's Akatosh's son. He says he's the, "First born of Akatosh." There are many things this could mean, but first I need to dive deeper into what Akatosh really is because Auri-El is the "first" of Aka as he is the shard that represents the Beginning of Time.

I think one of the easiest ways to see it is by using the song Red Diamond.

Verse: When Akatosh slew Lorkhan he ripped his heart right out and threw it across Tamriel and the Heart began to shout.

This verse is super important. The story has Auri-El shooting his heart. So why is this saying Akatosh. Some would say the answer is Unreliable Narrator, which is true to a point, but there's more to it.

Verse: The laughing Heart sprayed blood affair a gout on Cyrod fell, and like a dark shot to its mark down in an Ayleid well. Magicka fused the Lorkhan blood to crystal red and strong. Then wild elves cut and polished it down to Chim-el Adabal.

Verse: When elves lost Nirn to men Akatosh gave the stone to Saint Alesh in token of her right to sit the throne.

So here we see the blood being fused with magicka which comes from Aetherius which is mostly an Anuic plane. Then Akatosh gifted Alessia the blood. Here's an important part. Remember from Oblivion how it says Akatosh gave HIS blood to Alessia? Ponder than for a second.

Chorus: Red Diamond! Red Diamond! The heart and soul of Men. Red Diamond! Red Diamond! Protect us til the end.

Heart and soul of Men. So now we need to understand the Marukhati Selectives. They were a monotheistic cult dedicated to a god of their own creation, Akatosh. They used Dawn magic to remove the elven aspects of Auri-El and slapped a piece of Lorkhan into him to do it. This birthed Akatosh...

In the 1st Era.

So Akatosh didn't exist in the Dawn? Well, yes, he did. See mythopoeism is a funny thing, and when using it on a time god it can vehk the whole thing up. So Akatosh became this mix of Anuic and Padomaic forces. He also became the largest Aka shards. Akatosh is as strange Aka shard in that he is the closest to Aka of them all. Alduin's comment leads most to believe he is either the second largest or the second to gain being after Aka shattered.

In order to stabilize time, Lorkhan caged Akatosh within himself. Right where his heart once was. Because Akatosh is kind of the Heart. But don't confuse him with the Heart of Nirn, even though he kind of is. And now we've come to it. Akatosh gave his blood because his blood and the Heart's blood are the same thing.

Aedric strength: Simply put, Mundus is the Aedric realm and as such, Aedra are stronger on it. This does not mean that they are always stronger than daedra.

Jyggy was made because he was gaining fast territory in Oblivion. He was capable of predicting the natural order of events. He was overtaken by the daedra because the creation of Mundus was not for seen. It wasn't natural according to the Aurbis at the time. I see, thanks, it explains many things

but if Lorkhan's divinity became Jyggalag, his body became the moons, did Auri-El fused with Lorkhan spirit then? and then both became Akatosh?

and who are the other shards, the Divines?