Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-206.74.175.104-20151018163917/@comment-9062114-20160223035926

Shigeru Thalmor Slayer wrote: Zippertrain85 wrote: 1) 1) Not true, the Dominion has the Empire as it's armies, and controls most of Tamriel. Hence why the Second Great War is not something that's being prepared for by the Aldmeri Dominion. Unless Black Marsh is going to team up with Hammerfell and try and destroy them, they pretty much have the entire continent by the balls so to speak. Despite the very common misconception, the Kahjiit are not footsoldiers in the Aldmeri Dominion, not even close. They're merely low servants to the Elven overlords who make up the bulk of the army. There's a reason they are only referred to as "Elves" when they account The Great War ;) Whoa, Whoa and Whoa!!! The Dominion DON'T have the Empire as it's armies because they are not allies, they're not the same faction, they don't work together, they don't make plans together and they don't even share the field of battle. Also the Dominion only control Summerset Isle, Valenwood and Elsweyr, not most of Tamriel. Cyrodiil, Skyrim and High Rock are controlled by the Empire and Hammerfell, Morrowind and Black Marsh are neutral. And Black Marsh teaming up with Hammerfell? Man, the Argonians never fought against the Dominion and never will, unless they're attacked directly. The only people the Argonians have attacked in millennia were the Dark Elves and that was for revenge for centuries of slavery. And Hammerfell signed a peace treaty with the Dominion.

2) Jurgen Windcaller's philosophies are, as they are titled, just philosophies. No one can say for sure why the Nords were beaten by the Dwemer and Dunmer, perhaps the other side just had a very good strategy and field advantage and the Nords didn't, Thu'um but it cannot win a war, it takes years to learn at least. Well, wards can block shouts. A lesser ward can easily block the fire/frost breath of a dragon and can block shouts like Draugr Death Overlord's Unrelenting force, a Revered Dragon's Drain vitality etc. The Chimers and Dwemers were magic users, right? Mystery solved.

3) Considering the Elves had already signed the peace treaty with the Empire BEFORE the war with Hammerfell continued, I'm going to go off on a limb here and say the amount they HAD (past tense) in Cyrodiil is pretty irrelevant. As for the reason they didn't go in and destroy the Aldmeri Dominion, what benefit would it serve them? They don't worship Talos, they have a Civil War in their land and probably other issues too. Who knows, perhaps they do want to go back to war with the Dominion, we know very little about the current political landscape in southern Tamriel at the moment. What I mean here is people love to say the Stormcloaks can take down the Dominion just because Hammerfell did it, but they are unaware of the reasons behind that victory.

4) Proof for any of this? The Stormcloaks do have Battle-Maidens who practice restoration magic, in addition to people such as Ulfric's Mage who can teach them Destruction magic if need be. You also need to keep in mind a very important rule of TES debate. Gameplay does not equal lore! The Stormcloaks in the game, as the Thalmor soldiers might be a complete misinterpretation of what they actually are like in the history books, game mechanics can be, are usually are, altered to enhance the experience. As opposed to showing a realistic and unbiased view of the situation. Ok, so let's pretend the Stormcloaks have mages, but do they have a navy? No, they don't. Do they have a variety of soldiers? No, they don't. Do they have something better than blue guard armor and iron weapons? No, they don't. Do the Dominion have everything I mentioned? Yes, they do. As I said on my previous comment, the day the Stormcloaks defeat the Dominion is the day my Khajiit Archmage, who spends hours studying and practicing in order to surpass Shalindor, will quit studying magic and learn crochet and her twin brother will stop slaying Thalmor and become a priest of Mara.

I'm afraid since the White-Gold Concordat the Empire is already on the Aldmeri Dominion's side in this conflict, maybe they don't like them, but they do without a doubt carry their will, this is a fact. Just look at Skyrim, where they are banning the worship of Talos and arresting any critics of the Thalmor's regime. The Empire has been functioning as the muscle of the Aldmeri Dominion throughout the entire end of the Great War! Who arrested Ulfric in Markarth? Who was the one that captured the Ulfric, Ralof and Dovahkiin at the beginning of Skyrim? The Dominion's soldiers, no, the Empire.

...I know that couldn't happen, it was a improbable scenario to show a point about the Dominion's control over Tamriel, which is quite large!

Great, now we know how it happened. Case closed, Dwarven Technology is also powerful :P

What were those reasons, again? Hammerfell was just as weak as the Dominion after the Great War. If they could do it, how is a unified Skyrim unable to simply resist the Dominion, as some Imperials have tried to say!? Is Hammerfell alone greater than The Empire (including Hammerfell), really? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense

Now, what has been resorted to is repeating the same incorrect information over and over again. Pretty much Restoration is a school of magic, and those things that are found in the water by Dawnstar are boats. I've already explained how Ulfric and the Stormcloaks are weakened by gameplay mechanics, this went right over your head (no offense). Hell, look at the access of weapons and minerals that the Stormcloaks have in Skyrim. Ebony, Dragonbone, Iron, Skyforge Steel, those are some pretty heavy hitters in the armor department (Skyforge Steel having backing from lore even). And last time I checked Moonstone and Malachite weren't that much above Iron or Steel. Even though they're low in the game, they are actually pretty good and hard.

Plus, the Nords have a reputation as warriors using those supplies. I doubt they're as weak as you claim they are.