Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-24256580-20131206011928/@comment-24256580-20131209084101

Pink Slim wrote: don't forget lordkenyon, there are only four argonians in windhelm, one is proudly claims that they steal cargo, one is a drug addict, and another is antagonistic to the nords(not unjustly, but by doing so he's not being seen in the right light), and the last one is the only one who has nothing bad about her.

the only other named argonians who interact with others are:

In Solitude: Beem-Ja and Deeja - two known pirates; and Gulum-ei who helps thieves if it gives him a profit.

all of the Argonians from Riften are nice and are treated fairly (except Madesi, who is treated badly by Gelka, who treats everyone badly), but Wujeeta is a skooma addict(later cured) and From-Deepest-Fathoms is no longer sane.

Teeba-Ei become Housecarl to Sorli the Builder if she becomes Jarl.

Derkeethus is also treated farily.

the only argonian who is treated unfairly is Shavee. everyone else is treated fairly or their mistreatment is somewhat justified (except Madesi, but he's only mistreated by one specific person) So what I get from that is Riften, the city with the biggest reputation for corruption, is the fairest towards Argonians? To me this indicates that even when conditions are bad, Argonians still attempt to make an honest living before resorting to a dishonest one. Like everybody else. Now, I always found morality iffy in Skyrim. Murder is acceptable, when sanctioned by bounties. Guilds like the Dark Brotherhood exist because the guards don't have the power to take them down by themselves, or are actively bribed by the Thieves Guild. Yet the worst thing in the world is skooma? Yeah, okay. There's at least 1 drunk beggar in every city.

It sounds like a moral panic to me. I'm not underestimating the awfulness of drugs, but understand that when one or two groups of people get singled out, there's some kind of agenda present. And it's strongest in Solitude and Windhelm, not because the people of those cities are the most racist of the racist, but because there's a political agenda going on. Pushing certain people out of the circle strengthens those within the circle. And damn does that fall onto the lizard people.