User talk:Ned1230

Hello,, and Welcome to my talk page. Please feel free to post here. See all previous messages in my archive, but don't go to number 2; all messages have been restored from that archive. Tomorrow, I'm going to restore all messages in my other archive.

Sectstubs
Ned, don't add sectionstubs, add the instead. But why don't you add the information instead of just adding stubs? There is only a short few sentences needed to describe what the quest is about. And btw, you had it right, interactions should be the header for the quests, on location pages it is quests. On Thadon the first header should be background. Also follow Zippers advice.. 21:22, March 29, 2014 (UTC)

12:27, April 6, 2014 (UTC)

12:34, April 6, 2014 (UTC)

13:48, April 6, 2014 (UTC)

Listen now
Ned, you have been warned and told many times to stop doing disruptive edits but still you continue. You accuse people of badgehunting and doing reverts and then you are doing just the same thing. I and several others have tried to make you understand but you don't. I have told you to lie low and do something else but no. In the last several days you again have reverted so many edits and done so many unecessary edits that I feel the need to give you a rest from the wiki. As I said in the previous message, why not add more to an article instead of just a stubtemplate? It is so easy to add more if you already can find it here, like the quests. I'm sorry Ned but I am blocking you for a short time, please think about this now. 12:49, March 30, 2014 (UTC)
 * I am done now. I am not good for the wiki. this is not good for me, or for anyone else. I am done. {signature/Ned1230}} 12:57, March 30, 2014 (UTC)
 * Please notify everyone. 13:00, March 30, 2014 (UTC)
 * Anyway, I was never able to fix quest articles. I tried, but i couldn't because me parents wouldn't let me play it at all because of my 'schoolwork' (grrr...). The only reason I'm allowed to be on here is so I can learn how to deal with people at work (I'm doing a pretty poor job of it, too). Anyway, I stopped accusing people of badgehunting this week because now I know that I am the only person anyone ever talks about being a badgehunter, and I don't even do it! My recent edits have been adding ref ids, adding some categories, removing gender and games from leads (straight out of messages from Sky on my talk page). I also fixed stuff like 'a Altmer' and incorrect spellings, including hase'nt on Riften. Anyway, just today, I stopped doing so many reverts, and instead posted on peoples' talk pages on how they can be better editors. In fact, it was ironic you blocked me on the day I was trying to reform. Anyway, I believe it is important to add stubs to articles, so that they may be expanded, this is why I do this. And, over the past few days, I've even started adding more info to articles, just not quest ones. My specialty is character articles, whether for adding info or for fixing grammar. I stayed away from quest articles for the most part, because I don't know much about that.
 * I always have a reason for what I do, and I may come off as a badgehunter, but that is not what I am. Why would I spend so much time here. if all I wanted to do was earn some stupid little badges? Wouldn't that be a waste of time? 20:57, March 31, 2014 (UTC)
 * I can see you are not reading what I write, I said don't add sectstub templates, add instead at the bottom. When you come back and do believe you will, please add more to articles if you can. Not just one or two minor things and besides, not all articles needs to have a stub, there isn't much to tell on many of the characters. I know I do a lot of minor edits sometimes but that is part of the maintenance we do as administrators.  09:20, April 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * Ebony, if this is one of the main reasons you've blocked me, then I'll stop doing that. However, I definitely won't edit as much as I have, for reasons stated above. I will add to articles if needed, but, again I will definitely cut back on the sectstubs as well, I now see how this is useless, as there isn't even a category to help fix these. Also, if I came off like a jerk, sorry :( I was kinda angry, of course. 23:30, April 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * In addition, I have added a "editing etiquette" section on my profile that will be expanded on and that might be of help. Some people still think it would be good to have games listed on the lead, so we don't change them. 00:41, April 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok, Sky, good to know. I won't remove anything from the leads (i.e. gender, game) anymore. I will only add ref ids, categories, and whatever else needs to be added to those articles, I will stop. Thanks, 01:02, April 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * No it wasn't, don't use the secstub at all. It's enough with a stub at the bottom of the article. You also started to revert your own edits... as an example. 07:34, April 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for archiving my messages, Ebony :) 21:22, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * Youre welcome Ned.. :) 10:47, April 4, 2014 (UTC)
 * By the way, I saw that Ghost and Crazy resigned. Was there a general reason why they resigned? It's weird. Did anyone else resign? 19:58, April 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * He left because he was getting fed up with the site for a while now. Zippertrain85 (talk) 20:28, April 5, 2014 (UTC)

Reason behind my resignation
Hey Ned I just came by to say and tell you the real reason behind my resgaintion. It's because during the summer, I won't have internet aceess of mine own since I don't have a computer of my own. (the one I'm using is the schools) I wouldn't be active as much so i decied it was best if I resigned early. Hope this clears that up Crazy131 (talk) 17:10, April 7, 2014 (UTC)

Re: forum mods
Hi Ned, here are the code for it, scroll down so you can see it. Copy it and paste into your MediaWiki page and add your wikiname instead of TES wiki. I'm not sure if there is anything else you need to do actually.. 06:30, June 19, 2014 (UTC)

Regarding Italics
Hey ned I just want you to be aware, that we no longer use Italics in book articles. This was decided, Via http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:597589 Consenus  2 months ago. In the future if you see Italics in (Books) remove them this applies to books, in all Elder scrolls games such as Daggerfall, Morrowind, Oblivion Skyrim etc.. however itlalics such as Quotes in Character pages or anything other than books should NOT be removed. I just wanted to make you aware of the new Policy Starkiller131 (talk) 18:06, June 19, 2014 (UTC)

Re: I don't get it
I don't know what to say to you Ned.. as an admin you are required to do maintanance work which means cleaning up among images, articles and also see that everything is categorized. And I can tell you that surprisingly many don't categorize especially images. You also might have noticed I do add a lot of stuff to this wiki, from especially ESO these days.. I also try to edit more than just adding one thing in an article, most don't do that.. like you for instance. You just remove one tiny thing and still there are 4-5 other things to edit on the page is left which you don't see as you are just focusing on that particularly thing. Templates might be missing, appearances might be missing, there are too many gaps between sections and so on. Always look through the article if there are other areas needed to be delt with before you finish. There is a standard, like galleries should be before trivia and bugs, not after and so on. Leave other users, don't make comments on their edits.. 19:13, June 22, 2014 (UTC)

OK, I guess. :) Sincerely (talk) 21:03, June 22, 2014 (UTC)

Edits
Ned, don't remove the empty quote. This shows it is in need of a quote. Also, don't add the stub temlpate on ESO characters if there is a quote, correct image and just a merchant for example. Then there is nothing more to add to these characters. Hence no need for a stub.. EbonySkyrim  Message!  19:21, December 26, 2014 (UTC)


 * Ok, thanks, Ebony. It won't happen again. Before I checked this, I had already caught on to your quote reminder, so I've been keeping an eye out for it.


 * I removed the quote templates because they look weird on the articles when they were empty. It looks like misplaced code, which looks sloppy to readers. I also won't add any more stub templates, but should I remove them? I won't do that until I have an answer. 19:27, December 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * Ned, some of the edits you have done on especially characters from ESO are not needed. It doesn't matter if it says "residing in the Auridon city of Vulkhel Guard" intead of "residing in Vulkhel Guard in Auridon". You don't have to change this and also, some characters need stubs and others. The quote can stay as it's a stub really so users can see we add a quote. You have before been wrong about characters in ESO. Do you play it or have it? As I mentioned above, the only real characters who need a stub are those who are in quests etc.. but most aren't and only need a stub if one of the things is missing like I said above. Be careful or I will call badgehunting again.. EbonySkyrim   Message!  23:00, December 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok, I don't have it, so I won't edit ESO articles. I am not badgehunting and I will prove it
 * What do you want me to do? I have neither ESO or Morrowind, the two games that need the most expansion on the wiki. I like to edit, and I especially like to fix grammar and spelling, as if I were editing an article in a newspaper. My reason for fixing the 'Auridon city Vulkhel Guard' because I thought that the city of Vulkhel Guard in Auridon' would be better and users wouldn't think twice about what it meant.
 * What would you like me to do? I will gladly do it if possible :).
 * I may buy Morrowind on Steam at some point during the next few weeks, but until then I don't have anything to do in terms of expanse. Is there anything I can do that would not piss you, Saj, and just about everybody else off in the mean time? No offense intended, just saying.
 * I hope there is something, otherwise I will turn my attention back to the other wiki, which I am an admin of. If there is not, that is ok. I'll stand by until I get Morrowind.
 * - 23:22, December 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * Hey, I actually just thought of something, since you brought up badgehunting: What is the point of badges?
 * What purpose do they serve? They don't encourage new editors, which is what I heard was their reason for existing - they only make them want to hunt badges! When I was a noob, I wanted the badges desperately. But that was in June, August, and September 2013, long before you knew me. I admit that I got back into badges in early 2014, but past that I only wanted to edit to serve the readers.
 * The noobs aren't doing anything but badgehunting, which is against the rules! A logical paradox.
 * So, I ask you, what is the point of badges? They are like XP - for a wiki. Really? If you don't care about your points, why don't you just get rid of them. It would serve me, and other users like me, a great service, as it would prove that we were not badgehunters, and, possibly, could end the corruption of other users who badgehunt in secret (if there are any, I have no idea, definitely not you anyway).
 * -  23:31, December 26, 2014 (UTC)


 * If I may jump in here for a moment. First of all, I would like to welcome you back Ned. It's good to see you have an interest once again to edit the wiki once more. Secondly, for the badges thing, they do help to encourage new users to edit, but they also do help to encourage users to badgehunt, so it's a double edged sword. However in my experience & belief they have caused more good then harm here, although I'm not entirely opposed to their removal.
 * On the topic of things that you can do to help out here, without others getting on your case, or make accusations, there are many things that still needs to be done here. First of all, a few months ago I created a few hundred Oblivion homes pages, that could still be expanded with more information on them. There are still several Oblivion locations, characters, & items in general that are stubs that could be expanded. Much of Morrowind as a whole lacks information & could use a massive update of information wherever applicable. ESO itself lacks much information however, being you don't have the game or much knowledge of the game itself, then I might suggest skipping on there. But that's still a possibility to expand & create as well.
 * Much of the Skyrim locations contain quest walkthroughs on them, which should not be the case, & should either be removed, or transferred over to the quest pages instead. Many types of Skyrim articles in general contain incorrect POVs in them, & also have gampleay advice on the pages, which is not desirable, the advice should be moved to the articles talkpage instead, or be removed entirely. Several of the quests in the game lack well written walkthroughs on them & could be revised entirely. Many of the images, are of mediocre or poor quality & need to be replaced entirely. This is true among pretty much all of the games.
 * A multitude of lore pages need to be expanded, sourced, created, or revised almost entirely as well as another alternative for things that could be done to help the wiki as much as possible. If you have questions, concerns, or new ideas for things that you think may need done, or some help, you may contact another administrator, or myself whenever you need to. I hope this helps, & happy editing! Ȼǿᵰᵮẽᵲ ₲ħǿśᵵ Ⱥᵰᵾᵬĭᵴ  Đẽẽᵭᵴ 00:38, December 27, 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the welcome, Ghost! I will be sure to play Oblivion at some point during the rest of my Christmas break, and add as much info as I can during the weekend with collected info in notes (long story about the weekend part). I am also, if you didn't read above, going to buy Morrowind as well, and expanse of the pages that already exist is also needed, as you pointed out. However, I'll get started right away on removing those quest walkthroughs on location articles.
 * Thanks for the tips! :) 00:48, December 27, 2014 (UTC)
 * Well wait Ghost, what do you mean when you say walkthroughs? Do you mean for the whole quest, or just the part of the quest that goes on at that location? 00:53, December 27, 2014 (UTC)
 * Saw your edit on Alftand. There are 3 quests in that location, they should all be added under Quests, not Interactions. Have a look at how I've rearranged it now and in the order it should be. EbonySkyrim   Message!  02:11, December 27, 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok, saw what you did. I'll be doing that in the future. 02:16, December 27, 2014 (UTC)

Animated pic
I have to remove that because it violates the customisation policy (you may not obscure features of the site in any way) --SuperSajuuk Talk Page 19:32, December 26, 2014 (UTC)

Birthday
Hey Ned I just wanted to say Happy Birthday (someone else have one today too!) and I hope all is well for you, and have a nice 2015 :). Zippertrain85 (talk) 18:15, December 30, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks!!! I hope you have a happy New Year! :) 20:06, December 30, 2014 (UTC)

Curalmil
Dude, an edit summary of "that is idiotic" is seriously inappropriate. You don't have to agree with it, but you don't have to behave like that, either. - Erik the Mad (talk) 20:48, December 31, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Error on the MOTM page
Thanks Ned, didn't notice that. I've fixed it now. —Atvelonis (talk) 13:45, April 5, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Atvelonis - 13:55, April 5, 2015 (UTC)

All in one go.
Ned,

Your edits are good, but please do them all in one go. Try and only hit publish once.

Regards,

Bronkiin (talk) 18:19, February 11, 2016 (UTC)

Will do, sorry about that.

18:21, February 11, 2016 (UTC)

ESO locations
Hey Ned, great work on the Landmarks (Online) page. I also wanted to let you know that we tend to organize ESO lists by faction, then by region, so Dominion, Covenant, Pact, and then the regions controlled by them as subheadings (neutral/DLC regions get their own section). That way readers can pick out the places for their faction more easily.

We have a lot of lists for ESO that just don't exist for some reason, so if you plan on sticking around it would be fantastic if you could work on those other ones too. I've been planning on doing them for a while now but I'm kind of lazy so that never happened, haha. So if you're interested just let me know. Thanks. Have fun editing! —Atvelonis (talk) 20:09, February 11, 2016 (UTC)