Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-206.74.175.104-20151018163917/@comment-26893431-20160208214114

Ottoman Hold wrote: I knew you would pick that apart. I knew. It's especially funny since that is a small part of my point. We are talking about the present, not the first Empire. Oh wait, the Stormcloaks are no longer part of the Empire. Your arguement is negated ;)

As for your quote, it doesn't make sense, as it disproves your arguement. Ulfric started the revolution, and so there is no chance the Stormcloaks will just try to overthrow him. As long as the Thalmor don't invade Skyrim, the Stormcloaks won't just attack (especially without Ulfric). There is no one good enough to lead them without Ulfric (not saying he's the best leader or anything either).

Do you think it matters in a disorderly mob if the leader dies? Hell no, in a rebellion the title of leader is just that, a title. The Stormcloaks are not organised, can't keep order, and are racist, that's disorderly. A rebel doesn't know true loyalty, which doesn't surprise me, seeing as Ulfric himself isn't loyal.