Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-3539474-20130910213054/@comment-3539474-20130922205622

Legate Alexandros wrote: Bretons and Orsimer came to that agreement of Orsinium being an oficial Kingdom within High Rock, only when Empire finaly interfeared in 3 era. Before, Bretons felt that Orcs are just encroaching on the land that lawfully belongs to them. Back then Bretons took the proverb, "Find a hill, become the King" literaly, that's why they made so many petty Kingdoms in Illiac Bay. Imagine how many potential hills they tough Orcs were taking away from them. That is why Orsinium was taken down few times before it finally gained an official status within the Empire. For the first siege of Orsinium, Bretons assembled a large army. They not only got Redguards from Hammerfell to help them, but famous blademaster Gaiden Shinji as well. They though that Orsinium will fall quickly, but they were wrong. Hundreds and hundred Bretons and Redguards fell before Orc Beserkers, including Gaiden Shinji himself, before Orsinium finally fell for the first time. I'm pretty sure Skyrim was Orc homeland until the Snow Elves/Nords migrated from their homeland and pushed the Orcs to High Rock. Then Trinimac/Malacath punished them for being weak and they became what they are now, "tribal warriors'"and doesn't trust non-Orcs until you have proven that you can be trusted.

As for the Reachmen, Could it be the ancient Reachmen broke off from the HR Bretons to set up their own kingdom/culture before the Saarthal Nords took control of the whole of Skyrim.