Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-16060423-20130930190945/@comment-25479664-20151203144215

Also, orcs may have a tribal society, but they are far from primitive beasts. Weapons surpass nord steel, and their armor is only surpassed by those made from ebony, daedric ebony (basically the armor of the daedra), and that made of the bones of friggin dragons, so don't you tell me that their smithing is primitive. While I won't call them the smartest or most complex/civilized race in Tamriel, they are FAR from primitive beasts. As a matter of fact, I'd argue that their society is more complex than nord society. Much of the complexity of nordic society came from the empire and other external forces, whereas the orcish society as barely been influenced by the outside world.