Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-70.162.32.87-20140716020856/@comment-5989209-20140816195408

Contributor 62 wrote: Br3admax wrote: Yeah it does, the Princes don't consider him a Daedra, so he can't be a Daedra. If anything, he's Aedric in Origin. LOL come on now. If the others decided to be prickly and declare that although he possesses daedric artefacts, a daedric sphere of influence, daedra followers, daedric power, a fkn daedric realm, that he's NOT daedric, then by all means he CANNOT be just because they said so?

They call Nocturnal "Ur-Dra" respectfully, for being more of an ancient aspect of the original Void, rather than a "born-Daedra". If their respect turns to arrogance, should we count her out too if they say so? What about if, besides screwing him over due to fear of his power, the others decided to start saying the same about Jyggalag, out of spite? Then all of a sudden, like weird logic-CHIM, he CANNOT be? And Mora, hinted as being no Daedra, but as ancient as being born out of the idea itself of time and fate from Akatosh, then transforming himself into the entity that we know, when Mundus was created, and hence why he never appears to mortals looking like other DP's do. And Meridia, pretty much CONFIRMED as born-Aedra, but hey the others are fine with it cuz she's a sexy momma, so we count her, right?

Perhaps it's just cosmically natural for the Lord of the ostracised to be one himself. And perhaps we shouldn't jump to absolute conclusions based solely on a DP's own interests, likings and sayings. As if origin was itself any sort of eliminatory point. And perhaps we shouldn't continuously jump to declaring one different DP after another as the greatest and most powerful of them all, specially based just on bits rather than a wider picture. As we can see, it's even harder to reach such an opinionative conclusion for the 17 than it already is for the 9. He's not a Daedra because not only did Malacath not have a choice to not participate in creation, but the spirit he came from, Triminach, willingly did. It's like saying that Talos is an Aedra just because he became one of the Nine. Meredia is not an Aedra, she just left Aetherius to treturn to Oblivion. She is akin to Magnus.