Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-26213507-20150715194939/@comment-26356342-20150908194829

201.76.82.124 wrote:

3rd: The Stormcloaks are right ideologically. Or you're going to say that they are wrong in demanding the worship of Talos to be permitted again? They may not be right in trying to make Skyrim independent from the Empire, but that is not what I said.

If your point is they are RIGHT for wanting religious freedoms, then I suppose, yes, they are right on that one. Except for the whole part where they oppress the reachmen and their religious freedoms. You can't argue equality and open worship of whatever god you want and then also say "except the god who are not our gods"

5th: My point was that Ulfric said they WILL take the fight against the Dominion. How he would be able to achieve such a seemly-impossible victory no one knows. That'd be up to Bethesda. All I know is that being the man that he is he wouldn't say something like if he didn't knew what he was saying.

The Empire also says they WILL fight the Dominion. Tullius himself will say this... So I'm not sure what the point is of saying "Ulfric said he will fight them". It's known both sides hate the dominion. But if you believe that he will, and have no idea on the "how" its a moot point.

Finally, to the guy who talked about irony, I suggest you read my 3rd point again.

That was me, and it's still valid even with your point. You started by saying how everyone is bias towards the Empire and could only come up with such reasons as "because I said so" and yet your own argument not only added nothing to the conversation on the pro-stormcloak side, you literally just say "the stormcloaks are right" without any additional information. For the record, there is plenty of discussion that doesnt boil down to "because I said so" a lot of it is "because of these in-game reasons/lore" Thats why this continuation of an older forum is 284 messages deep at the time of this post. The issue a lot of stormcloak supporters have is their arguments are all just anti-empire, and not pro-stormcloak, they fail to mention HOW the stormcloaks plan to defend themselves, however people such as S'Dalaar the Snowcat, Bronkiin, and Draevan13 have been able to come up with compelling arguments that ARE pro-stormcloak, So I'd suggest reading their posts if youre looking for stormcloak arguments with any substance.