Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-95.94.124.138-20130922100323/@comment-13446185-20140717171836

Ifnsman wrote: All of these points have already made it across to me. Some with a little water, along with admitting that you can see I at least have one argument (though there were more, now we're just focusing on fewer).

Specifically, yes I've read the Songs of Pelinal. The books don't make it obvious that Pelinal is a Shezarrine, just a possibility. Pelinal can easily be just a Hero along for the ride. It is just as likely to have been another character who was Shezarrine instead of him. Pelinal for some reason didn't want this information known though and would kill those who claimed him to be a Shezarrine. Here are the bits that heavily imply he was a Shezarrine.

"he stood with white hair gone brown with elfblood at the Bridge of Heldon, where Perrif's falconers had sent for the Nords, and they, looking at him, said that Shor had returned"

Speaks for itself

"and it is said that he emerged into the world like a Padomaic, that is, borne by Sithis and all the forces of change therein"

Lorkhan was born from Sithis

"beneath the Pelinal's star-armor was a chest that gaped open to show no heart, only a red rage shaped diamond-fashion, singing like a mindless dragon, and that this was proof that he was a myth-echo"

He has no Heart, instead the Red Diamond is in it's place (which is actually made of Lorkhan's blood; Chim-El Adabal: A Ballad)

"whether or not Pelinal was indeed the Shezarrine is best left unsaid (for once Plontinu, who favored the short sword, said it, and that night he was smothered by moths)"

Those who call him a Shezarrine are suspiciously killed

How could he easily be just some hero? He was able to destroy entire pieces of Nirn! Not to mention that he has had incarnates that existed long before the Alessian Rebellion.

Ifnsman wrote: I didn't even say Talos took the role of Shor. He took the role of the Missing God who is also Shor in a way (Lorkhan). I know it may be hard to tell at times for you (or you're purposely putting words in my mouth for the convenience of your own argument).

Unnecessarily using Caps-Lock to convince me of something we already agree on. Inane. 'I didn't even say Talos took the role of Shor. He took the role of the Missing God who is also Shor in a way (Lorkhan). I know it may be hard to tell at times for you (or you're purposely putting words in my mouth for the convenience of your own argument).'

"As Shor is Lorkhan in a way (and just like Lorkhan; is "Missing") Talos would also be usurping/mantling Shor."

-You

'Unnecessarily using Caps-Lock to convince me of something we already agree on. Inane.'

Well you obviously weren't getting my point. Talos mantling Lorkhan would not also mantle Shor. Ifnsman wrote: Quote: "Because they call him by name. -_-  You don't hear people ever calling Talos Lorkhan.  Your argument has no basis other than ridiculous speculation.  And what is this supposed to mean..." ^For the above, you've obviously ignored the statement you were quoting and either replied to something else I've said, or are putting words in my mouth. You seem to have expressly denied that the Heroes of Sovngarde acknowledged him as "Shor" earlier, and now you're saying they do (which is exactly what I said). What are you even trying to say here? I have no idea what point your trying to make.