User talk:Deyvid Petteys/Archive 5

Page Deletion
Hey, I just finished editing the Mods:Space Core page, and I was wondering about whether or not it should be merged with the page Mods:Dovahcore Helmet. It's fine if you don't want to, I just think it's necessary because they're basically the same thing, and there's really no need for two seperate pages with very similar information. Though the Dovahcore Helmet is an item that can be worn, all one could say about it is that it is a helmet made from the Space Core and how to make it.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that, since I don't know a whole lot about page merging, I think we should delete the Mods:Dovahcore Helmet page completely and simply add a section about it to the Mods:Space Core page. Just a suggestion. D3T&amp;FS (talk) 03:30, March 2, 2012 (UTC)

Overlinking Guidelines and Admin Behavior/Communication
While I thank you for your link to this page: TES:OVERLINK, I find that Wikipedia's personal overlinking guidelines simply do not mesh with environment here that we have chosen to construct a wiki within. Let us take a look at the two bullets (also the first two listed on that link) which may possibly apply to my edits. They are as follows: "• Avoid linking plain English words. • Avoid linking the names of major geographic features and locations, languages, religions, and common professions."

- Wikipedia Manual of Style

Now then, I do believe that the pages of the wiki by and large violate these two "guidelines" (and for good reason). I am curious to know if you truly believe that Wikipedia's guidelines wholly apply to this wiki. If that is the common consensus as agreed upon by the staff, I will surely take heed, but I believe that doing so would cause the entire face of this wiki to dramatically change.

Additionally, you have not elaborated on a number of things. Were you upset with the number of wikilinks in the text? The number of pages in the "See Also" section? The redundancy of the pages found in the "See Also" section (as some had appeared, and been linked, in the above text)?

Secondly, do you have any response to me about those extraneous spaces? My replies to you were not directed in the form of a question, however, since you are not inferring properly (or flat out ignoring me), I will ask flat out - Can you explain why the Wikia editor is adding extra space in between ? I am not putting that space in there, and I am using the Source editor, so it shouldn't be doing that.

If you don't have the time to talk with editors, I'd advise you to at least make another admin available as there are certain users, such as myself, who wish to comprehend the styling rules and whatnot and are not attempting to engage in edit wars. There seems to be a large gap on this wiki when it comes to editorial communication between the admins, who as I aforementioned, seem somewhat reckless and bull-headed with reverts and edits, and the editors. All I simply ask is that if I screwed up somewhere, that I be informed of the what, where, when, and how. I don't think that is much to ask - also, it will help me to not make such mistakes again in the future. Thank you.

Loneyankee (talk) 06:08, February 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * Aye, sir, thank you for the speedy reply. I am now aware that your issue was with the last of the first set of three questions I asked. I certainly can understand your sentiment and will construct future "See Also" sections accordingly. I definitely am on the same wavelength, I've gone through plenty of wiki articles, only to spend much time removing, moving, adding, and formatting various wikilinks left over from other editors. The only time I ever link the same thing twice/thrice is in the case of it appearing in the body, infobox, and/or "See Also" section. However, I'll take due note that short articles won't require duplication of certain items in the latter section.


 * I hope you will see from now on as a competent editor and as mentioned earlier, please just inform me of the error of my ways should we run into this circumstance again.

Loneyankee talk/contribs 06:26, February 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * Regards,


 * No hard feelings. I'm not the type to stay flustered a minute longer than necessary. I appreciate you taking the time out to correspond with me, and accordingly, I'll make this short and let you go. I'll be sure to check out that IRC if I should have the time to do so in the future.

Loneyankee  06:40, February 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * Regards,

I'm wasn't trying to mess with the page for necromancers, I was try to add to and correct it. I tryed to start a page for this because i seen the there was no data on their Skyrim version. I did not know what content was acceptable for imported videos and didn't get you message about it. I put it back up thinking I didn't publish until i got your message. When I got it i deleted the video and read the policy. Sorry.

ShockxStorm (talk) 01:31, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

New user warning template for you
 Loneyankee  09:48, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

Wait, Really?
Good Articles are automatically locked to Admin only? :O That doesnt seem right - Good articles are not GREAT articles, there's still a lot of improvements that should be made on them first :( Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 02:14, March 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * Never mind. I see it protects them to auto-confirmed. This is good, then. Please ignore the above message :) Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 02:17, March 1, 2012 (UTC)

"being phased out"
I noticed that my edits had been reverted and was wondering whether "quest location" was another category which was being phased out, and as soon as I refreshed the page, I saw the message you left confirming this. My question, then, is where can I look to find out which categories are being deprecated or "phased out"? Or where is it discussed "as a community"? -LordDragonfang (talk) 07:29, March 1, 2012 (UTC) (tildes, I always forget the tildes)


 * Ah, thank you, I was wondering where to find those discussions. Also, quick question while I'm already bothering you, should named dragons be categorized as "Characters"? Their pages are somewhat inconsistent on that. -LordDragonfang (talk) 07:46, March 1, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks and apologies
Hey Deyvid! Thank for noticing. Seems like every time I want to add an infobox to a spell or potion page, it needs to be disambiguated (aarrgh). Rather than leaving it for someone else, I do the best I can with Morrowind and Oblivion then go ahead and make the change I originally intended for the Skyrim page. Sorry I haven't been on IRC much lately...my chemobrain is giving me a fit with daily headaches. And to top it all off, I'm now BALD! Well, that's going to be a fact of life for the next six or more months.  GramsJ (talk) 22:49, March 1, 2012 (UTC)

I have an update for the blood dragon page. It says one has been encountered at a low of 11. I have encountered one at a level 8. Not very fun. >:C

I found a glitch with Nahagliiv. If you get there during his ressurection he will be outside of the burial site. He will be a skeleton. If you attack Alduin and he leaves he will still be a skeleton. When you kill him his skin will slowing grow in only to be burned off again when I absorbed his soul. I know I didn't word that well but you could probly fix that.

Responses from Dolgar
well, i had a really nicely written response, but this wiki time out messed me up again, so i'll cut to the chase.

I'm new to wikis. i'm doing this while at work. i don't know all of your wikis scripts yet. forgive me for my delay in responses or my inability to format while using these editing tools.

my changes were As stated above, i am new to wikis in general and this editing seems to play formatting games with me sometimes. the horrid display in changelog highlights how both downfalls can combine to create a 'perfect storm' of changes and the removal of changes to try and get the correct formatting.
 * 1) a spelling change
 * 2) combining two separate notes - a problem and the solution to the said problem - into one note indicating both

I appreciate your efforts on the wiki and am grateful for the editing review you provide. if you have any additional tips, espescially regarding scripts on the wiki, it would be greatly appreciated. thanks. Dolgar (talk) 17:38, March 2, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Deyvid, got your note and am reading through the links. Far more, and better information than the links provided in the Welcome script added to newbie pages (like mine). I will finish reading and follow the guidelines - thanks! Dolgar (talk) 17:09, March 3, 2012 (UTC)

Well, the documentation is good but rather generic. it took me a few days and browsing the source code on other pages to find some of the scripts needed to help maintain uniformity like. I still haven't found an good spot for identifying those. A few pages, i was thinking, may need to have spoiler tags, but i couldn't go back and find a page to reference for it's use. Dolgar (talk) 23:04, March 3, 2012 (UTC)

Ah, ok, so Templates - i have to get my terminology down. I want to say it may have been on the Aela page. It covers information / description, but then begins to detail parts of quests and the gameplay that may be considered 'spoiler' information. Dolgar (talk) 23:16, March 3, 2012 (UTC)

A Cornered Rat

i was trying to incorporate note and bugs and revamp the page - as requested in the Template at the top. I'm pretty sure I didn't leave anything out except for the external link, that is generally frowned upon. The revisions have ben reversed a couple of times, but i was doing them in peices. it should be complete now. it may still need some work, so i don't want to remve the template. your thoughts? Dolgar (talk) 17:20, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

Wyatt
Do i just need to put that in and theyl change? Wyatt•(Bother me with words)

RE: Template colors
Thanks. I'll hop to it right away. Epic sig, BTW. :) --User:Gp75motorsports (talk) 03:31, March 5, 2012 (UTC)

Reply.
As long as it's been taken care of, it doesn't matter who did it, and you're welcome. O_O (talk) 05:04, March 5, 2012 (UTC)

I don't understand
Im sorry to bother you, but you sent me a message and i dont know what i dod wrong.

in you message you said to avoid use words like "you or i", I never dont recall disscussing myself. the only time i recall useing those words was when i was editing the stub for Maricus Caro, and i was quoting what he tells the players.

im not saying your wrong, but i feel like somthing i did was misunderstood, if you could clear this up for me a little that would be great-Cheatcodechamp (talk) 07:20, March 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for clearing that up for me, i didn't relise i was doing that, ill go back and fix what i can. And i understand the "nit-picky" way of doing things. rules are rules and i will try to follow them better


 * Glad we see eye to eye :) -- 07:32, March 5, 2012 (UTC)

New on editing
I was using wiki pages for long time as help and guideline for many games I was playing. Often I saw some grammar issues or missing link to other topic relevant pages but I never had a courage to do something about it. Then I bumped on vandalism on one page and pointed it out to you. You said I am allowed to edit if I see things that are incorrect or inappropriate. So, you gave that little courage I needed to start changing things. Since then, I never received a mail about my changes, whether they are good or bad, only that there were some changes on pages I am following. I wonder is there any way I can get some feedback because, even though I edited some things, I am not sure am I doing the right thing. Thanks in advance! :-)

Mrs. Babe (talk) 11:13, March 5, 2012 (UTC)

IRC?
hey hun, wondering if you could hop on IRC soon :) Rosenrot87 (talk) 19:27, March 5, 2012 (UTC)

Nom, nom, nom
Hey Deyvid.  Thank you. I'll be a little slower the rest of the week since I have a treatment tomorrow, but I'll keep plugging away at those spells. GramsJ (talk) 05:25, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

advice needed
I'm sorry to bother you, but I need some advice on something. I know what a stub is, but I am not sure at what point can I say that its no longer a stub. What is needed to remove a page from that category?


 * A stub tag can be removed once the article offers wide coverage on the topic. It may not contain all pertinent information, but it contains most of the relevant information. One way to judge whether an article qualifies as a stub is to check its length. Long articles cannot be considered stubs, because they contain sufficient coverage. They may need some cleaning up, but they're not stubs. A stub is usually a very short article. See our stub guide for more information. Also, if you're mostly editing articles about characters, see SF:WHO? for information on what character articles should contain. Each character article should, at minimum, contain one sentence for each relevant topic covered in that guide. Hope this helps! -- 20:14, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

images
hey, sorry for bugging you about all this, i just wanna get this right, ya know? ok, i understand how to add an image to the pages if it hasn't been already uploaded, but what if it has been uploaded to the wiki already? how do i add it into the infobox? the book infobox in particular right now, i'm having problems with it =/ Rosenrot87 (talk) 19:42, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, this is just to let you know that I'll won't be very active for the next week. At least you won't have to teach me simple stuff then spend your time correcting my mistakes <3

GermainZ (talk) 20:16, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

Revison to Potions_(Skyrim)
Thanks for the link to the style guides; the small section on external links was useful. In this case, I'd say the link was "relevant to the precise topic of the article." I know it says not to " assume that the external link you wish to provide is better than the three already in place", but in this case that seems exactly true in the sense of providing more directly relvant, more easily accessed information. Perhaps you could restore mine (maybe with edited description) and pick one two of the other three four links to remove, in order to bring things closer in line with the recomended "three directly relvant links" guideline? Sebastian Wiers (talk) 23:02, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

gareth's Message
Could you please stop leaving messages on my talk page, it is really annoying me, thanks - TheFirstDragonBorn (talk) 11:02, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

oh go away, i am really sick of what your saying, you should not even be an admin, u plonker - TheFirstDragonBorn (talk) 12:38, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

Hi David.

Just a quick note to let you know I was being a complete (and lazy) 'noob' by NOT adding

licensings to the images I've uploaded.

Although I must tell you that unless you are familiar with TES Wiki it's kinda easy to

'overlook' it unless you expend the 'Options' menu while uploading.

Anyway ,problem noted.

I just hope I don't mess anything else up in the future.

Cheers.

Blizzard beast (talk) 00:35, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

I'm just letting you know that I purposefully didn't touch the order of Skjor's page, only added to. I didn't create the page or add any of the info that was already there. This Wikia has different methods than other Wikia I've added or changed to, so I'm having to learn those template methods. You know, the ones no one seems to follow. When I finally learn the whole template pattern, I'll be sure that each page I visit follows it correctly. Before I created an account, I'd only add small notes or edit things to clean up, but I've tried not to alter what was already there. So if some things were wrong, I sure didn't know it. I'll read the templates before doing more edits. Now to go work on what I meant to do, which wasn't the wikia or even located at the computer...

Vashtari (talk) 23:42, March 12, 2012 (UTC)Blizzard beast (talk) 00:35, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

Hey. You offered to help me be rid of an unwanted blog. That'd be awesome if you could do that for me. I'm sick of seeing it.

Morrowindman94 (talk) 15:38, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

Ysodla
I've edited Ysolda's page. When you can, take a look at that and her quest page to ensure things are done right. There was a slew of mammoth locations, half of which were duplicates from the quest page, so I just moved them all where they belonged and took out the locations on her character page. I also took out the marriage headline, which was purely useless. I added the full changes on her talk page. Hopefully her trivia is trimmed down enough, since I took out stuff like "she's got a twin bed." Really? That's trivia? lol

Vashtari (talk) 16:23, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

Unmarked Location Page
Hey Deyvid. Did you have something specific in mind for the Unmarked Location Page ? You suggested to use a table, although I have to admit I'm not a huge fan of big table pages (such as Ingredients (Skyrim), but I can certainly live with it. However, it may be tricky to embed images and that would spoil the fun a little bit. Any thoughts ? Dinerdefilles (talk) 07:57, March 14, 2012 (UTC)

Awesome. Thanks for the help!

Morrowindman94 (talk) 17:01, March 14, 2012 (UTC)

I am trying to add a picture for a Skyrim:Character page. It currently says: "Have a picture of ? Then please upload it!" I uploaded a picture but it hasn't applied to the character's page. What am I doing wrong? It shows I've uploaded pictures but it still says "Have a picture of ? Then please upload it!" Can you teach me the proper way to do it?

Also if I've uploaded a picture, then decide to upload a better picture, how can I delete the old picture? I see no option.

Thanks =)

Kathoc (talk) 21:08, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Possible Bugs Fix!
I'm leaving this message here for you because a) you might be interested in it yourself. and b) I know that I'll likely forget it when I wake up again :( This post here on the Bethesda Forums has a link to a bug patch for quite a lot of the bugs throughout the game. Seems like something that we might be wanting to get involved with listing, maybe? (Since it seems to get rid of 90% of the bugs listed on, well, a **LOT** of the pages? :) Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 18:19, March 17, 2012 (UTC)

Redirection Pages - New Pages
Hey Deyvid, question, I'm trying to make pages for perks, but most of them seem to be redirect pages. When I go to create a new page, it says already exsists. What would be the best way of going about making perk pages? Edit the rediects? I was going to make a Limbsplitter page since the new patch fixes the perk, but the redirect is stopping me from making it. Any ideas?

Thanks

Kathoc (talk) 19:17, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

Skyrim Spell articles mostly complete
Hey Deyvid. I just finished checking through the Skyrim Spell articles category for the third time, and I believe I have accomplished the following (with a few exceptions that I will mention later): The exceptions to the above are the following pages: If you want to let me know how you want me to handle the exceptions, I'll wrap up the work on the spell articles and move on to another project. Speaking of which, do we have approval to use DwemerBot yet? Thanks, GramsJ (talk) 22:59, March 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) The spells listed in the CK are covered,
 * 2) The articles have infoboxes and nav menus,
 * 3) As much as possible, the spell tome information in the articles is consistent, and additional information is present.
 * 1) Damage Health (Spell): contains a very brief narrative with links to the three resist spells and magicka weakness effects. May need to be disambiguated?
 * 2) Destruction (Skyrim): contains a fairly detailed listing of the destruction spells. Leave as is?
 * 3) Dragonskin (Skyrim): a greater power, not a spell. Removed from spells and Skyrim: Spells categories
 * 4) Fiery Soul Trap: a weapon enchantment, not a spell . Removed destruction nav bar, removing the article from spells
 * 5) Light (Skyrim): a summary page that lists and provides links to the light spells, tomes, and scrolls Part of the Light redirect for disambiguation
 * 6) Magic Rune: contains very little information that could not be provided on individual article pages. Should I create the pages?
 * 7) Resist: not a spell, but an effect removed from spells and disambiguated
 * 8) Shock Damage (Skyrim): already covered on individual articles...should it be deleted?
 * 9) Spectral Arrow: no article...link is forwarded to Conjuration (Skyrim). Does this deserve an article?

Hey Deyvid. You will probably notice that while I've been waiting for a response I've been working on some of the questionable pages. I would particularly like you to take a look at what I did with the Resist pages and let me know if this is useful information or if it was a waste of my time. I have also added specific questions to the list that I would like answers to. Thanks, GramsJ (talk) 00:28, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the response, Deyvid. The only items you didn't address are what to do with Spectral Arrow and whether or not we have approval to use DwemerBot yet. Re: the rest of your response, it pretty much falls in line with what my thinking is on those pages. The only other thing I was thinking about has to do with the Magic Rune page, and that is removing the detail of the individual runes to their own specific pages and just maintaining the links. The other question I would have is regarding the Scrolls that have been added to the Skyrim: Spells category — should these be in a subcategory? It just looked strange to me when they all showed up in the spells category. On another topic, it seems like it takes me so long to finish some of these changes...as I do the research in the CK's or write the articles I keep falling to sleep! (hehe) Oh...and you can call me baldy, now, too. GramsJ (talk) 18:59, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

Would this be griefing?
Hey, I just saw an extremely poorly worded page (The link is http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Repairing_the_Orrery), and the person who created it started to make random edits to the page, such as adding a link, adding it again, then deleting a letter in it, and readding the letter. The page was just a complete intentional mess, should it be deleted? Also, the persons name was styguy55.

Quick Question
If i remove "image needed" from an article's category, should i mark that as a major edit or minor?

Cheatcodechamp (talk) 00:38, March 31, 2012 (UTC)


 * Minor edit 00:47, March 31, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks, just wanted to make sure, i have been coming across article's that need catagorys removed and i wanted to make sure before i continued. Cheatcodechamp (talk) 22:52, March 31, 2012 (UTC)

Most Obnoxious Page Contributor of the Year Award
I'm up for nomination I think. Everytime I sign something the wiki says I've not only contributed to the page but I've also added three images to it D:

Should I just bite the bullet and remove the images from my signature or has your fabulous brain devised an alternative even before I asked. 19:47, April 1, 2012 (UTC)

IRC
Jump on if you please, need to inform you of something 22:08, April 1, 2012 (UTC)