Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-27616182-20191204225349

Could an attempted delivery of the Oghma Infinium to the college Winterhold, have been attempted during Miraak's ascendancy, condoned if not guided by Hermaeus Mora himself, if Hermaeus Mora had felt or perhaps forseen, Miraak secretly aquiring enough power to usurp him, and so for the book to be opened if it had not been able to be, AT, the college, could have been a although-desperate option, way for someone in or under Solstheim, in a long-since forgotten period where Hermaeus Mora was more openly revered or consluted perhaps for quest-journed answers?... something,.. and DURING this movement of the book while it was still locked up in the box, Miraak, particular dragons, or perhaps a small group of Taesci & dragons working together, perhaps all 3? might have intervened and tried sinking it, so it would be lost?

The event that destroyed Winterhold pre-skyrim, might've been recent, but that doesn't mean that whatever deposited the box & book way out in the middle of nowhere,.. was neccessarily there at the same time  -  it could be that whoever destroyed Winterhold/tried destroying the college, might've delayed trying to destroy it earlier, their priority being to prevent the box & book from being found,..

...which could also explain why it was left in obscurity, while strife was caused instead on the mainland  -  the protection that the box provides is presumably too powerful for anyone to just bust-open, so obscurity can be a better way of preventing something that you don't want coming back, from coming back  -  causing chaos/strife in Skyrim, could then be a way that the same person/s ... could EXTEND, how long the book remained undiscovered / box un-unopened.

THAT, just popped into my head as a possibility, as to why it's seemingly in the middle of nowhere... a massive powerfully protected box like that, on-land, would go nowhere over time, but would be able to be dug-up, if it's last-known location was known... one lost at sea, is truly lost, in terms of anyone's attempt to find it.

IF, it then only got intercepted near the end of it's voyage, or if that event described in the attack on the college/Winterhold, might've even blown the ship it presumably was carried on,.. then that could also explain why it's at the EDGE, of the ice/islands.

WHO, tho, didn't seem obvious at first. If Miraak's ascendancy, was over time, one that Hermaeus Mora could not himself directly prevent, then getting someone else to remove him, would seem to be a logical way of dealing with that problem, if i'm right.

ALSO, if Hermaeus Mora is often obscure, or hidden in terms of his true identity, compared to the many names for him, that he has all over the place, then it also stands to reason, that he would be somewhat vulnerable to being removed from history, by someone intelligent/resourceful enough to try, if then taking up his mantle. HOW, Miraak might've attempted to take Hermaeus Mora's realm, would be anyone's guess,.. but just that logic of a potential PAST on Solstheim, might explain why Miraak's attempted temple-building, could've ALSO, been something that Hermaeus Mora feared.

Why do i say that? Because IF, Hermaeus Mora has lightly-guided the player towards deposing/removing/interrupting Miraak, BEFORE, he completed his temple, it could be because Miraak had learned a way of starting to take from / more-from Elfoney souls, in terms of worship/true-godhood  -  if that ambitious, and IF, for some reason the Black-books can't be read anywhere else,..

... then the REASON why the Black-books can't be read anywhere else, could be because of something well & truly buried BENEATH Solstheim.

THAT, was what sparked in my mind, as a combined reason why both Miraak would choose Solstheim, AND, why Hermaeus Mora acts in the events in the game  -  Hermaeus Mora himself, could've been skillfully undermined, and the LIMITS of the Black-books' oppertunities, in not working outside of the Island, could've been a reason for him to LURE someone there, to read them.

IN OTHER WORDS,

If the Black-books had not been used for too long, it could be that Miraak had attempted to cut-off access either way, so that NEITHER ;

1  Hermaeus Mora  could not attempt to get anything through back to the mortal realm,  and

2  Nothing could be brought back to it, from anyone going-TO, Hermaeus Mora's realm,

if that could've been some kind of RISK for Miraak, for a attempted usurping.

in other words, he could've tried CUTTING Hermaeus Mora OFF, from the mortal realm, at the same time as being able to expect that with little direct knowledge of Hermaeus Mora compared to the myth-names he gets,..

... that he would not have much worship-strengths, DURING, an attempted takeover/usurping, if he had some kind of plan to assault Hermaeus Mora directly.

WHEREAS if Hermaeus Mora still had people going into and coming back from his realm, he'd have channels, flows, of loyal servants, artifacts, etc... to secretly counter Miraak's attempt, if he knew about it, which considering what kind of deity he is, is likely.

Miraak could've known, that he would know, but that some tactics could've still been effective, LIKE, myth preventing direct-worship / sacrifice, which as i said, would weaken Hermaeus Mora directly  -

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SO cutting Hermaeus Mora off from the mortal realm, in all except his PROJECTIONS,..

and that, the weakening,

could've been going to be relied upon, during his attempt against Hermaeus Mora.

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why am i bothering thinking all this through?

ehh... it just seemed odd that the books can't be read anyWHERE,.. else.

for all i know it's a Skyrim add-on loading function, and has nothing to do with the story/lore, and simply just only loads when the files for the mod. , are loaded - if you're in the maps for mainland, the game-files might simply not be loaded. :P


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