User talk:Ned1230

Hello,, and Welcome to my talk page. Please feel free to post here. See all previous messages in my archive, but don't go to number 2; all messages have been restored from that archive. Tomorrow, I'm going to restore all messages in my other archive.

I'm really going to stop being really, really annoying to everyone that existed before me on the wiki, and not make so many edits. I've been blocked twice now. It seems funny how I'll be an outcast for the rest of my time on the wiki, now that I've been blocked for 3 days twice

Re:Rules of the Wik
Ned, first rule: Do not remove content from your talkpage unless it's personal business and not about the wikia. Other rules are easy to access in the links above at the top. Like The Elder Scrolls Wiki:Policies and guidelines and The Elder Scrolls Wiki:Style and formatting. Look through them from time to time. You will remember it in time and if not, just go back and have another look. :) 22:17, February 8, 2014 (UTC)

Removed delete template
May I ask you why did you remove the delete template in this edit? I fail to see a purpose behind that article. 02:38, February 9, 2014 (UTC)

Never mind. I'll put the delete template back. I just saw that the admin liked the page, that's all


 * Oh, okay. Timeoin makes some weird stuff sometimes, but that article was created a long time ago. 03:21, February 9, 2014 (UTC)

Online stubs
Hi Ned, Please don't add stub templates to Online articles. Since the game has not been released yet, there is not enough information to be added to most of the Online articles. This would every single one would be a stub, and that is pointless. Stubs should be added to articles that are missing important information, and since Online articles have all the information possible in them, stubs shouldn't be added. Sorry, that was quite confusing. Just say if you don't understand. Thanks. 13:26, February 9, 2014 (UTC)

Redlinks
Please stop removing the redlinks on the Crafting (Online) page. As I have already explained, they are there to represent that pages will be made for them in the future. - Erik the Mad (talk) 22:21, February 9, 2014 (UTC)

You mention that Blacksmithing in ESO is covered in the Smithing page... Except it isn't. I can't see any of the information I've posted anywhere else. Please elaborate.

Iwrestlebears (talk) 22:24, February 9, 2014 (UTC)

It feels awkward to have the information from a completely different game tacked on to the end. I feel as if new players may misinterpret some of the Skyrim information as ESO information. Sorry if I sound pushy, but I don't see why there can't be an ESO Blacksmithing page, as it will contain a lot of information that is irrelevant to the single player series. Iwrestlebears (talk) 22:45, February 9, 2014 (UTC)

That would be great. It just seems strange that there are all of these skills and perks that are exclusive to ESO and then suddenly there's information that isn't really relevant at all mixed in with it. Iwrestlebears (talk) 22:51, February 9, 2014 (UTC)

Updated with new information
Sources for ESO are mandatory? Crap. I'm getting all of my information from the public beta released a few days ago. Figured I'd be helpful and add some information for curious players. Iwrestlebears (talk) 23:09, February 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * Okay, thanks. Also remeber to add five tildes (~|~|~|~|~)without the |, at the end of your signature, it adds the date and time of the post :). 21:52, February 9, 2014 (UTC)

Stealing edits
Could you please stop editing every page I edit. I have reported you to an admin to try to prevent editing wars. If this continues I will talk to more than a patroller. Please stop taking all my edits and changing them Batrada (talk) 00:44, February 12, 2014 (UTC)Batrada

Undo
I'm just saying but did you know that the have an interwiki link for English on their page? Fire Wolf Pup (talk) 12:13, February 13, 2014 (UTC)


 * Ned, do not remove interwiki links. Those who add them knows what pages they add them on. There are many disambig pages with wikilinks. 12:14, February 13, 2014 (UTC)

Mastrius
Why did you create that article? I was in the process of making it, you didn't even get his race correct either. Ghost Anubis (talk) 14:29, February 14, 2014 (UTC)


 * It's okay I was just going to make it a bigger page then that, I spent like half an hour working on it but I couldn't create it, because you already had. Ghost Anubis (talk) 16:33, February 14, 2014 (UTC)


 * Naw it's alright though, I was just a little upset. I apologize for being rude. Ghost Anubis (talk) 16:42, February 14, 2014 (UTC)

Edits
Ned, there is no need for some of your edits you do on every article that have just been edited. You don't need to add the race of a character on the location page for example. Like the ones Ghost Anubis just added. It isn't mentioned on any other house location. 16:26, February 14, 2014 (UTC)


 * I can understand that but it can be a bit too much sometimes, as it looks like you are following us :). Try and find articles that need larger edits too, not just small fixes. 16:40, February 14, 2014 (UTC)


 * Ned... I reverted your edits on the Nordic Trollbone Cuirass page. There is no Nordic Trollbone armor set, rather just the cuirass, helmet and shield. Please pay more attention when you're editing. Thank you. 17:47, February 15, 2014 (UTC)

Profile
Just want you to know I cleaned a little on your profile, removed unwanted code among the userboxes.. :) 14:24, February 15, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Hirtel

 * On the wiki you can't be too specific with these things, it's necessary to make sure everyone understands since someone might not. If they had not played Oblivion they have thought you were talking about a Refugee camp outside of Anvil. In additon, please don't revert in edits in the future for making stuff more specific, the revert tools are there to get rid of Vandalism or incorrect edits, not for everything. Thanks. I am Sylar (talk) 18:02, February 15, 2014 (UTC)

Deleting Messages

 * Ned, please don't delete messages on your talk page, those are records on conversations had. If you keep doing that, it might cause you get a ban. I am Sylar (talk) 18:12, February 15, 2014 (UTC)

Multiple edits
Ned, please stop making multiple edits to the same page in a short amount of time. Other members have reported you making disruptive edits, and it is getting out of hand. If you are going to make a lot of changes on one article, you should make the changes all at the same time. How many edits did you make to Ashlands that were minor? Please, just take a moment to preview your changes before submitting so this can be avoided, otherwise it does make it look like badgehunting. Thanks. —TombRaiser  SPEAK!  19:52, February 15, 2014 (UTC)

Badge hunting
Please, stop with the badge hunting. It's quite obvious that you are badge hunting, because you're doing tons of minor edits to pages which don't even need them. And please don't delete this message like you did with the other messages left on your talk page. AngryEnclaveSoldier (talk) 20:55, February 15, 2014 (UTC)

Archiving messages
Ned, you also need to stop with the early archival of your messages. The purpose of archiving messages is if there are too many messages on your talk page. It's not to hide messages from others view. —TombRaiser  SPEAK!  21:02, February 15, 2014 (UTC)

Block discussion
Please, Tomb, I'm only adding topics to my archive! If there's another way to do this, then please tell me. Also, I am not badgehunting, and I don't know where AES got that idea.

Please, just give me another chance. I'll tone down my edits and only make them if there are spelling mistakes or missing information 21:32, February 15, 2014 (UTC)

Fine,I'll delete 'archive 2' and restore topics. I didn't know that was against wiki policy. Nobody warned me until 10 mins ago!21:40, February 15, 2014 (UTC)

Ok, Ill tone my edits down even more. I'll also pretty much ignore the recent activity box from now on, and only revert vandalism and correct spelling and major grammar errors. Also, I only archive messages so I dont have to scroll down to look at them; Im lazy.21:43, February 15, 2014 (UTC)

PS, if you're going to keep me blocked for 3 days, block my other account: Ned1230Two. 21:46, February 15, 2014 (UTC)

Also, exactly what is the exact amount of edits I'm supposed to do? I'd like to know. 21:48, February 15, 2014 (UTC)

Don't block me again then im ruined! :O 21:49, February 15, 2014 (UTC)


 * Ned, none of the messages were posted 10 minutes ago. There was plenty time given to read the messages. You'll just have to wait out the 3 day block, and when you return you can show that you have improved your editing ways. As for your other account, you should not have 2 accounts on the wiki, as that is consider sockpuppetry. Only two or more accounts are allowed if they are for separate people in the household.


 * I don't know how you cannot see that your edits have been disruptive as many others have noticed this. Disruptive edits such as changing one word with the exact same meaning as another is counter productive and makes no difference what word is used, so why change it? You have made edits right after someone else has edited the article. That can seem like you are following every person that makes a recent edit. It would be different if you made significant changes to an article after someone had recently edited it, instead of something so minor. —TombRaiser  SPEAK!  21:55, February 15, 2014 (UTC)

Tomb, apparently my extensive work on Morrowind characters pages today made everyone hate me, but all I did was take admin's advice on both things, archiving messages and adding info to articles were both suggested by Ebony. I'll stop making people think I'm stalking them, too (I just do recent edits because I can't find anything better to do, though I've found a new project, and no, it's not against wiki policy, it's adding ref ids, adding where NPCs live in Morrowind and creating pages of Morrowind things). Also, I don't understand the rule about 'flooding the recent activity box.'  Many of these rules you have here on the wiki are not written down in the Guidelines. I dont see why I should be punished for things when I haven't done anything wrong. I just took advice from Ebony...add info when you see it's missing from pages. Just because I edit extensively doesn't mean it's not productive sometimes. I've reported vandals, succesfully nominated a patroller (FWP) and sometimes, I really do know my stuff, like the many pages I've created. Please consider this. If you still think I should still take a 3 day break, just say so, but please respond.01:06, February 16, 2014 (UTC)

Also, why would I want to hide positive feedback? Doesn't that sound stupid to you?. I will stop changing words too, unless it's something like 'a Orc,' which is actually incorrect. I'm just anxious and addicted.

I'd also like to know about all the users who complained, besides Ghost Anubis (I already said sorry, alot), so that I can apologize to them for any wrongs I did them.

Please respond. I can't post on your talk page but if I could I would right now.

Please notice this. Anyone. If someone thats not admin sees this first, please tell Tomb; if you can't get ahold of her, just tell another one of the admin to post an answer on my talk page. Please it's all I ask, I just want to know the final verdict.


 * The users that reported you can reveal themselves if they wish. I didn't mention anything about the new pages you created in my message. It's basic wiki etiquette that you should take into consideration when editing on this wiki or any wiki. Serve your 3 days block and don't continue to ask me to remove it, or it will be longer. Let the time pass and as I said before, when you come back you can show that you have improved your editing ways. —TombRaiser  SPEAK!  01:41, February 16, 2014 (UTC)


 * Not to discuss my block, I'm done with that, but can you talk to Alduin1996?  He's been saying negative, mean, rude things about me:

"Thank you for blocking the user. Honestly between you and me I hope he learns his lesson in the future. Maybe next time (if there is a next time) give him a 3 month ban. Best regards"

I've only though I've only reverted one edit of his, and it was weird: 'Sven will not attack her' on Hilde. Personally, I think he's badgehunting, based on his recent edits. Please talk to this user for me. That would be great. Thanks. 01:55, February 16, 2014 (UTC)


 * I will open up and say I was the first of this incident to report you, I did so because you kept removing messages on your talk page. And when I tried told you to stop, you moved my message and didn't respond. That in my book is a red flag when you deliberately break the rules and don't discuss it at all with me if you have an objection. So, as Tomb said, serve you're ban and change your attitude when you come back. Also, Alduin isn't mean things to you by being happy you're blocked, since you did break rules on the Wiki. I am Sylar (talk) 02:23, February 16, 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok, It's just a little creepy how some dude I don't know at all is ragging on me all the time.02:34, February 16, 2014 (UTC)
 * You apparently still don't understand why you were blocked. I think you should take a break from Wikia for some time. AngryEnclaveSoldier (talk) 21:15, February 17, 2014 (UTC)
 * You apparently still don't understand why you were blocked. I think you should take a break from Wikia for some time. AngryEnclaveSoldier (talk) 21:15, February 17, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Bow Online

 * Ned, that's not Badgehunting. The sentence sounded too redundent, so I fixed it. One word edits, though they may not be the most instantly helpful edits, do increase the pages quality. If I made multiple one word edits on that page, I could see why you would think it's Badgehunting. But just making a one word edit (espcailly if it's relevant) is NOT badgehunting. I am Sylar (talk) 00:25, February 21, 2014 (UTC)


 * After thinking about this, I really don't see the point in having it say "Skill Line". Never once are skills ever referred to as that, so I feel that removing it is necessary, as it's an improper name. You do actually when writing these pages appeal to lowest denominator of people, that way everyone can understand the information it's trying to say. You know? I am Sylar (talk) 04:58, February 21, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Sorry you feel that way
Listen Ned, it's nothing personal against you. The way I see it is this, I don't have a problem with people editing pages I edit, or pages I created. I encourage it if I had made mistakes on them, which in all honesty, I do sometimes or if they have information to add. For instance, I didn't know the Ashlanders category existed until you added it to some of the pages I made. Not all of your edits are bad edits, & I don't think anybody here wants you to stop editing. I don't anyways, you make good edits sometimes, it's just that you would edit a page immediately after a page has been edited. Or after one has been created, many times with edits that really were, as Tomb said counter-productive. So with that said, I'm past all of this, just try not to do that so much, & I do want you to edit still. Just don't make those disruptive edits, & you will be perfectly fine :) --Ghost Anubis (talk) 04:46, February 21, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry
Sorry i have'nt see any message from you in my talk page. But its probably cuz i just archived it. So, yeah i'll think about an interview with you :P But now, in my wiki where i am administrator, i have few works. So, thats why i cannot now. But when i'll get time, i'll continue. Emperor Jarjarkine  Mail me Mortal!!  02:09, February 27, 2014 (UTC)

nah I shhould thx you because you liked my project and gave me the chance to help the wiki and bring dude happy as i could even if now i am busy é :P SO thx-- Emperor Jarjarkine  Mail me Mortal!!  12:00, February 27, 2014 (UTC)

Stop reverting
Ned, please stop reverting edits that make the pages have more clear information. That helps readers understand the content in the pages better, ones who don't know the Elder Scrolls. By doing this, you're revering relevant information and causing disruption on the mainspace articles. As I said in a previous post on here, don't do it again in the future. Thanks. Zippertrain85 (talk) 16:43, March 1, 2014 (UTC)

Why do you keep on deleting the Trivia about Flesh Atronach on the Flesh Atronach Page?151.224.244.163 17:00, March 8, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Thanks
No problem, just doin' my job. 17:10, March 8, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Very, very late congrats
Thanks Ned :) Fire Wolf Pup (talk) 05:22, March 9, 2014 (UTC)

Message
Hi Ned, I saw your message on Tombs page. First, don't expect her to reply soon, she has gone out of town and she is taking a short break from the Wiki. Second, I don't dislike you.. whatever did you get that idea from? I haven't had time to to be all over here as I also play another game that is very interesting. Third, that speculation you removed from the Flesh Atronach you could have moved to the page talkpage. That's where speculations should go. Calm down and take a deep breath.. before you do things, then it will be so much better. :) 09:33, March 9, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Apology
Well like I said Ned, I'm past that now. There is no need to apologize again. I seen that & thank you for trying, sadly only Patrollers & Admins can nominate now though. I'm not leaving, I have already decided to stay. But I appreciate your concern. Sure we can be friends from now on, I have no problem with that. No not really, the best way I guess is just to help contributing to the wiki :) Ghost Anubis (talk) 10:00, March 9, 2014 (UTC)

Creating Pages
Hey Ned, Please don't create pages that you have no information on, as seen in Merchants (Daggerfall) and Merchants (Arena). In these games, Merchants do not work the same way as the other games. Only add pages that you can actually add sufficient information too. Thanks. 12:32, March 9, 2014 (UTC)

Ingame grammar
Ned, don't fix ingame spelling. Even if it's wrong, we list it as it appears in the game. Also, if I may ask, what was this? I couldn't find the changes. 13:09, March 9, 2014 (UTC)

Misspelled word
Hi Ned, fixed the word on Serana but I can't find where seperate is on the Towers page. Tell me which section please.. 17:10, March 9, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Please help me
First, I am not saying anything about you behind your back, anything I say on here, anyone can read, and I'm sure someone is reading this message even though it's not for them. I have nothing to hide, so it doesn't bother me who's reading it, nor do I have any reason or desire to talk about others behind their back.

If you are looking for ways to improve yourself on the wiki and have better understanding with others, then you first need address why certain conflicts arise. You mentioned in your message to me that "Numerous others have shown dislike for you behind your back". Have you wondered why that might be, or, if it is even true? Are you assuming that people are talking about you? If you say it's more than one person, then ask yourself why that might be. What actions or reactions do you give people when you write them a message or word an edit summary. When a new user makes an edit that isn't following wiki guidelines and policies, are you being helpful in your message, explaining why it wasn't right, and pointing them to the editing policies? Does your message come across as assuming good faith or do you immediately think they are being unproductive on purpose? More often than not, a hostile message is going to receive a hostile response. So, I would suggest that you read a message that you have written to someone and apply it as if someone were giving you that message. How would it make you feel the way it was worded? Was it helpful, not helpful, unclear, unpleasant, etc...? Golden Rule, treat others as you would want to be treated.

Despite what you might think of me, I am not out to get you or trying to make you feel bad. I don't go out of my way to grief anyone, I'm a grown woman with many responsibilities in my everyday life and the wiki is a just a sliver of it. The best thing to do now is move on and learn from these past events and continue anew with changes applied. —TombRaiser  SPEAK!  23:23, March 10, 2014 (UTC)

Dude. Please respond quickly.
I was working on the "Crafted Item Set" page and you just take it over. Just because I make some saves along the way, doesn't mean you can jump into it. Please give it a rest. I kind of wanted that page. Andozer75 (talk) 10:35, March 12, 2014 (UTC)Andozer75

Link
Hi Ned, can you add this Commoner when changing the link for Commoner please, so it doesn't redirect it. Thanks.. :) 23:59, March 13, 2014 (UTC)