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Supersonicman wrote: Dark Jeto wrote: Supersonicman wrote: Dark Jeto wrote: He is a Nord, and the Nords are part of the Ebonheart Pact. Therefore, in the end the Ebonheart win. Even if they are no longer around to enjoy it. I actually think he's an Atmoran. But remember, he had to get the Dunmer and Argonians to join, they didn't just because he was a Nord. If he was part of the pact, he wouldn't need to do such a thing. Even if he was Atmoran, that hardly makes a difference since they are considered the progenitors that migrated to Skyrim, and are therefore basically the same race. And he never needed to get the Dunmer or Argonians to join the pact because, as you already said, he wasn't alive during the time of the Ebonheart Pact. My point was, that between the three factions vying for control of the Empire, that the Nords would ultimately be the ones to successfully establish a Dynasty. So to the Daggerfall and Aldmeri Dominion, you two are simply destined to lose this war. Being Atmoran doesn't make you a nord, just a pale human. The atmorans were the proto race of every human race except Redguards. That includes the Nords, the Bretons, and the imperials. So wouldn't it also be a victory for the Bretons and the imperials? Bretons have elven blood, they are Aldmeri-Nedic. They don't count. And no, Imperials were Nedeic and Cyro-Nordic. Not Atmoran. The only way that the other races are related to the Atmorans is that they are descended from the Nordic people. Atmorans came to Skyrim and became the Nords, and the rest of the Men in Tamriel descended from that. But if you want to say that Tiber Septim's rise to power was a victory for all Men, then fine: Humans win, Elves lose.