User blog comment:Zippertrain85/Dawnguard Conclusion/@comment-17114085-20140524013940/@comment-17114085-20140524223112

''Facepalm* Okay, once again, why didn't they colonize the land if they were going to different parts of it? It doesn't make any sense what so ever Harold.''

Jesus Christ Zipper, I've explained this more times than I can count. They weren't going all around Skyrim during the Return to colonize it, they were hunting Snow Elves. The Atmorans eventually did get around to colonizing Skyrim. Ysgramor founded Windhelm, some of the 500 Companions(Including the Gray-Manes and the Battle-Borns) founded Whiterun, Shalidor founded Winterhold, etc. But that wasn't an organized thing that the Ysgramor oversaw. He ruled his hold while those that founded the other holds likely ruled them. It is not that hard to understand.

''It's all impliaction, Skyrim has never said to have opposing kingdoms, even when they reference it in the past they refer to it as SKYRIM not Eastmarch or anything. Showing that he had the whole land that it currently is today, why are being so difficult about this???''

It was called Skyrim by the Snow Elves, that is what the Atmorans called it too. They obviously were different kingdoms that were all colonies of Atmora, by Haralds time they united and became independent from Atmora, therefore making him the First High King. Nothing points to Ysgramor ruling all of Skyrim, also in the beginning not all of Skyrim(of today) was a part of Skyrim(back then). Skyrim reached its full size and expanded into the other Northern Provinces during the Skyrim Conquests.

''You just repeated the EXACT same point here, yes Harold they actually did worship Dragons, that is why they ruled them, therefor there is no reason they would have seperate kingdoms if they were all ruled by the same thing. It's completely contradictory, that's one of the reasons why this theory cannot work at all.''

I never said that they didn't worship the dragons. I said that they didn't look up to them, looking up and worshiping are two different things. Ok you are clearly not getting it...Ysgramor was one of many Kings that ruled the holds of Skyrim when the province was a colony of Atmora. The colonies weren't united under one High King, they were ruled by Atmora(Much like the 13 Colonies of the USA, they were separated colonies that were subordinate to England and its King). The Dragon Cult, the most powerful cult in Atmora, moved to Skyrim. They have been the rulers of the Atmorans since the Dragons have been with them, they aren't an actually governing body, they are more like the Catholic Church was in the Medieval Age. Nothing in this is contradictory, you are the one making contradictions up.

''The Volkihar Clan would still be old if they were around the In Interregnum, I also think Harkon was raped too, but doesn't like to admit it due to pride issues. As he is also a pure blooded Vampire, so I don't see why. ''

There hasn't been any mentions of "Sons of Coldharbor". So he was not raped, just his wife and daughter. From Harkon turning the Dragonborn into a pure-blooded vampire it is safe to assume that Valerica was the one that turned Harkon once she became a Daughter of Coldharbor. This has no effect on our arguments, I just wanted to bring the topic up.