Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-25343239-20150319182007/@comment-26893431-20180323010652

Busiao No Laughs wrote: A weakened Aldmeri Army that lost half of its forces in Cyrodiil was forced to retreat from Hammerfell but also resulted in Southern Hammerfell being destroyed

There's nothing weak about being able to differentiate reality from fantasy. If anything trying to use reality as an absolute ruler/gauge to measure a fictional world is truly 'weak'

I stated already, everything you cough up are just excuses to justify the Empire's gradual loss of control over its Provinces. First it was Summerset Isles, Morrowind and Black Marsh, then Valenwood and Elsweyr by the end of Great War, Hammerfell...

I stated already, the Aldmeri Dominion/Thalmor did not win every single fight. All those things you talked about that are in the Elder Scrolls world, they are just fights. The overall war, is still leaning in favor of the Thalmor.

It is an indisputable fact that the Empire is losing control of its Provinces over the years after the events of TES IV: Oblivion and its control was continuing to slip as well. To give an unbiased conclusion to AD vs Empire. One have to look at indisputable facts.

It is indisputable that officially, Summerset Isles, Morrowind, Black Marsh, Valenwood and Elsweyr are not part of the Empire anymore.

It is indisputable fact that Aldmeri Dominion during Great War consists of 3 Provinces and by TES V events, it is still 3 Provinces.

It is indisputable fact that Empire is fighting a civil war in one of its Provinces: Skyrim. Just facts, no arguable points: AKA anything disputable are excluded.

Everything is clear-cut and clean.

Empire during Great War = Cyrodiil, Skyrim, Hammerfell and High Rock

Empire after Great War = Cyrodiil Skyrim and High Rock.

Empire during TES V events is fighting a civil war in Skyrim hence it will weaken Skyrim.

Hence Empire after Civil War will either be left with 2 Provinces: Cyrodill and High Rock at fighting strength. And possibly a weakened Skyrim. (2 to 2.5 provinces)

Vs AD which is currently = 3 Provinces based on the fact there are nothing concrete to show otherwise!

Aldmeri Dominion has not won all battles, but still winning overall as the war is leaning in its favor.

I am just respecting your interpretation and opinions by not trying to argue it is wrong like you are rudely attempting to disrespect mine. I am just saying you are using points + self-interpretations to fill the points.

I am merely interpreting through indisputable facts. I did not disregard battle of Red ring and the Aldmeri Dominion's retreat from Hammerfell, they belong under the category of "AD didn't win every single fight" I can tell you have not read the Novels. Most of the provinces that left, left as a result of the fall of the Septim Empire. When Mede took the throne, the Empire was barely itself, and while Mede was stabalizing the Empire, Summerset and Valenwood had coups. Mede I reclaimed High Rock, Hammerfell, the rest of Cyrodiil, and either him or his heirs reclaimed Elsweyr until the Void Nights took place. And that's not even considering the fact that the Empire has never attempted to reclaim Black Marsh because they consider it worthless.

Also, the Dominion is searching for ways to increase its power by a great deal. Clearly they are not as strong as you make them out to be. They search for a Dragon Mask, the Eye of Magnus, and Stalhrim items. If they were truly this strong, they wouldn't fall to such desperate measures.