Board Thread:Consensus Track/@comment-27755354-20170812173905/@comment-25356303-20170813014200

The Crusader of Truth wrote: This definitely is a great idea. As Atvelonis said, this will encourage users to edit more, which is definitely something we need. My only questions are: As for everything else, I would definitely support the ideas if they were posted for voting in another Consensus Track. They're very good ideas, ones that we probably should have went through with a while back. I've been trying to get more Discussions users interested in editing lately—you may have noticed a few of them adding content here and there in the past couple of weeks. Although most Discussions users haven't edited yet, connecting the two areas of the wiki in this way should encourage a great deal more activity from them on the mainspace. By the time they reach 500 mainspace edits, they'll start to appreciate the main wiki enough for them to stick around for an extended period of time.
 * 1) Will Discussions users need to have 500 edits before the threads are merged?
 * 2) Should we necessarily have 500 mainspace edits for forum moderators, or less, as not a lot of discussions users don't edit, at least at the moment.
 * 3) Will this rule change any after discussions is merged with the forums?

If we had required only 250 for Discussions moderators, I think that said bond with the wiki would not be quite there yet. That number is appropriate for Chat mods, as they have to be familiar with the main wiki already in order to be active on the Chat, but since the main wiki in general is new to Discussions users, some extra familiarity would be really helpful. Plus, we've been getting an increasing number of editing-related questions on Discussions lately, so they should be able to help out with a wider variety of issues.

The plan was to implement the new requirements immediately if this consensus is in their favor; I don't think we were planning to change it after the merge.

Purrington wrote: The new requirements for the Chat and Forum Moderator positions seem fair enough to me.

However setting the bar higher for Patroller and Admin honestly seem counter intuitive to me. How does doing more of the same thing, (in this case, more mainspace edits) prove one's dedication or commitment?

If they have proven to be competent in the job of editing, that is more than enough to me. I don't believe that 500 edits is nearly enough experience on the mainspace to be a patroller. I think I had around 3000 when I was nominated, and I distinctly recall not feeling totally comfortable with some aspects of editing yet. Same principle when I was nominated for administrator a few months later: if I had only had 1000 edits at the time, I would definitely not have done a reasonable job.

For as long as I've been here, successful applicants for the positions have always had far more edits than the requirement asks for. I think this is a sign that our requirement is not a realistic goal; no one can become sufficiently knowledgeable about our editing practices with such a small number of edits, so we shouldn't imply this with the staff prerequisites.