Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-13417807-20130726204600/@comment-11296535-20130910013020

You don't realize how naive you are, Zipper. About everything. The Stormcloaks aren't the best hope. You act like Ulfric is a golden saint. You want to know what he did? He betrayed the Empire twice! Once during the Great War, when he gave up information that he thought was important to the capture of the Imperial City. And when he started the war.

He also massacred a group of peaceful natives just so he could worship Talos. And the Nords weren't there first. After the Dwemer disappeared, the Reachmen moved into the abandoned cities and caves. Then they got taken over. During the Great War, they took over again. They retook their own lands. But then Ulfric and his "Sons of Skyrim" came and reretook land that the Forsworn worked for. Ulfric, using a power that was considered sacred and not to be used brashly, shouted them all to bits, not sparing even the children, and took the Reach, just so he could worship his precious little god.

But that didn't stop there. Oh no, using the same power that was not to be used at leisure, except for the Dragonborn, he killed a king who would have done what he asked. He was innocent. He did not need to die.