User talk:Zippertrain85/Archive 2

Re: Aspiring to be an Administrator.
Yes, becoming a Patroller is the first step to becoming and admin, which is dependent on various factors. How active and involved you are in editing the wiki's mainspace; not just the forum's Off-Topic or Roleplay areas. It is also very helpful to become familiar with all the functional aspects of the wiki, such as being able to switch from visual mode to source mode when it is necessary, creating and editing templates, organizing, and categorizing pages. Most of an administrator's duties will involve page maintenance as I'm sure you've seen before in the Recent Changes feed.

Other tips, continue improving the wiki's mainspace articles, answer users questions regarding the games and editing on the wiki, show that you are familiar with the policies on the wiki by adhering to the policies yourself, and by being fair and just so that users won't feel intimidated to come to you with questions. If you become a Patroller and after sometime an admin notices you have improved in various areas on the wiki, then one day they might nominate you as an admin. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  05:14, January 20, 2014 (UTC)


 * Sorry, but that is not how it works. You have to be nominated by someone, without asking them to nominate you. Asking someone to nominate you looks bad. None of our current Patrollers asked to be patrollers. They were noticed for their work on the wiki and nominated. Give it time and don't rush it. It will happen if you continue the work you have been doing on the wiki. Asking will only make others hesitate to nominate you. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  05:52, January 20, 2014 (UTC)


 * No problem. But, yes, keep doing what you are doing. I have taken notice of your recent edits, and as long as you continue productive edits, that is very helpful to the wiki, and so helps your chances of becoming a Patroller one day. Don't forget to report vandalism when you see it to the VIP page, so an admin can spot it quickly and deal with it in a timely manner. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  06:12, January 20, 2014 (UTC)

Sourcing
Hi Zipper, I saw your question at EbonySkyrim's talk page. It depends, on wheter the entire article is sourced by a single source (or if the content appears exactly the same on more than one source), or if certain parts of the article are referenced by one source, while other parts are from other sources. If the former, you just need to add the " ==Source(s)== " heading and write down the source behind the entire article. The latter is... a bit messy. To add a source to one statement, sentence, or part of an article, write " " after the statement, write the "==References== " heading at the very bottom of the page (see the guidelines for where exactly to put it), and, under the heading, write " ". If more than one part of your article is sourced by the same source, but theese parts are far from each other, write " " on the first statement, then write " " on the second statement. The best way to master this messy process (as I think my explanation is not the cleanest) is to view the code on pages such as Imperial Legion, where one source backs up more than one part of the article. Hope this helps. 21:40, January 20, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Sources
Hi Zipper, glad to see you want to contribute more. :) About sources and references, well I'm not that good myself in these matters. Here you can read about it and how to add it to articles The Elder Scrolls Wiki:Sourcing. Hope it helps. 23:12, January 20, 2014 (UTC)

Archive
I've archived your first page, it was getting a bit long. :) 23:19, January 20, 2014 (UTC)

Source?
You created a page named Hans the Fox, where did you take the information from? Ikabite (talk) 01:23, January 21, 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh, boy! That is now how you write pages, Zippy. Ikabite (talk) 05:34, January 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * To clarify - simply do not create pages if you are not at least familiar with the subject matter. If not much is nown about a character, they dont need a page. And NEVER reword a uesp page. Jimeee (talk) 12:11, January 21, 2014 (UTC)

Patroller nomination
Greetings - hope its not too cold there. (Living in southwest Florida, we just can't resist!)

Thank you for thinking enough of us to want to nominat us.

While we visit this Wiki on an almost daily basis, we can rarely spend much more than an hour and most of that may be devoted to a single edit.

That may not be enough to be of much help, but if the Community thinks we would be more helpful with the title/tools then O.K.DarthOrc (talk) 04:12, January 22, 2014 (UTC)

Article grammar
Zipper, please double-check your edit before publishing. Several of your edits had grammar issues. Thank you. 18:50, January 22, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Message removal
The messages on TsukasaKiryu's talk page are a personal matter which would have been better suited to PMs or email. None of the contents was to due to editing or conduct on the wiki. As for Twistedsystem004, this user only removed the default welcome message, which is allowed. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  19:07, January 22, 2014 (UTC)

Edits
I would just ask you to double-check your edits, some of them had grammar issues or just weren't needed (like exchanging hero for player), and one time you reverted an edit that removed vandalism. Try to summarize what you want to add or correct in one edit, instead of gradually editing like in the Reaver page. 07:12, January 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll add this here to give you an example. Like in this edit. Valid alternatives for the wording you've added are "if she heard any rumors" or "about any rumors she has heard", not "if about any rumors she has heard". Hope this clarifies what I'm trying to say. 07:17, January 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * Zipper, why did you remove the part of the children article that stated that all children have the same skin tone? I'm going to restore it, as it is correct; even Redguard children like Braith and Alesan have white skin. 17:08, January 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, my bad, Thunderkitten reworded it. 17:13, January 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * Braith has the same tone as Sofie, and their races are completely different regarding skin tone. Going by the images provided on the wiki, the only one who seems to have a slightly different tone is Alesan, but some checking may be in order. I do believe all children are the same except for clothing and hair style, but I can't play right now. Could you check it out later? 17:24, January 23, 2014 (UTC)

Removing redlinks
Please don't. Redlinks are there so people are aware which articles require creation. Removing them means the wiki will be less complete as people do not realise there is a missing page.
 * He is right Zipper, the red links should stay unless one is really sure there isn't going to be an article about it. So please leave them. 07:08, January 24, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Unique RP
I would like you to join my RP...

8991kcitek (talk) 00:53, January 24, 2014 (UTC)Ketick1998

Removal of Services?
I was just wandering why removed the services from the character Torvar, did have a reason? Or was it a mistake? If you did on purpose, please don't do iot again. The services are there for a reason.

Badgehunting?
Hi, I got your message on my profile. That's not a problem about doing all the edits at one time - I was mostly just doing grammar and spelling cleanup - but I was confused when you said that it could be viewed as badgehunting. What is badgehunting? I've edited many different wikias on this site, but that's the first time anyone's ever mentioned badgehunting. LadyNorbert (talk) 02:57, January 27, 2014 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't think you were accusing me of anything underhanded :) I just wasn't familiar with the term - I never edited a wikia that gave out badges to its users.  Now that I've earned some, I know what you're describing and I can see how what I did might be misinterpreted that way. Thanks for the tip! LadyNorbert (talk) 05:09, January 27, 2014 (UTC)

Categories
All Skyrim categories exist now. Things like Forsworn Item is an invalid category so you should not be adding cats that do not already exist. See this link to see all the categories: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special%3ACategoryTree&target=Skyrim&mode=categories&dotree=Show+tree

Jimeee (talk) 17:54, January 27, 2014 (UTC)

Morrowind Pages
Hey Zip. Since I don't think you own Morrowind the only thing you can help with is categorizing the pages. Many of the pages are missing categories. Start with the West Gash locations. Most don't have the category: Morrowind: West Gash Locations. 22:06, January 27, 2014 (UTC)
 * For now that was all I could find. When I need help with large undertakings like putting categories on a few dozen pages I'll message you.  22:36, January 27, 2014 (UTC)

Jylkurfyk
Hey Zip I was wondering why you changed: Jylkurfyk was said to be on the southernmost point of Atmora. back to Jylkurfyk was said to be on the stouhernmost point of Atmora.. I'm confused, as far as I know stouhernmost isn't a word.... 01:44, January 28, 2014 (UTC)

Reason behind revertion
Hi Zipper, just like to put the reason for undoin your edit on the Mabrigash article here, as I couldn't use the summary function on my phone. LayNorbert improved the article's grammar, as Mabrigash does not refer to a single person, and may not necessarily be put on the singular form. Thank you. 02:43, January 28, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Dragonborn pages
Hi Zipper. I gues users haven't added all information yet on those pages. I looked at location pages and there are a lot missing alltogether. Oh, and just a reminder for you, when replying to a message please add a colon : before leaving message, in source mode. Then two, three depending on how many messages there are. This will make it easier to read and it looks neater on the talkpage. :) 10:26, January 28, 2014 (UTC)

Answer
Darn, I'd hoped that no one would notice. Yeah, I was part of some star wars stuff. My name was pronounced differently before, but I've grown to like my name: Kadawon Earthblade the First. Kadawon01 (talk) 01:32, January 29, 2014 (UTC)

Online: Creature Stub
Please don't add stubs to Online articles. Not enough information is out about the game yet to warrant a full article. This would mean every article is a stub. So, please leave stub adding unitl after more information about the game is out. Thanks. Feel free to say if you think I'm wrong.

You can play as an Imperial in Online
So the pre-orders were revealed today, and it turns out if you pre-order the "Imperial Edition" you can play as an Imperial in any of the three Alliances (makes no sense being in the Dominion, obviously)! Well, I know which one I'm getting, then :3

 DRAEVAN13 19:45, January 29, 2014 (UTC)

Hi
Hiiii Ziiiiiippy. ^.^

11:10, January 31, 2014 (UTC)Ketick1998

Blog regarding ESO's pre-order decisions
I just posted a blog regarding the pre-order debacle I thought you'd want to weigh in on.  DRAEVAN13  19:04, January 31, 2014 (UTC)


 * Odd, it doesn't appear in my list of blogs. Anyways, here it is: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Draevan13/Thoughts_on_the_ESO_Pre-Order_reveal


 *  DRAEVAN13 19:27, January 31, 2014 (UTC)

I know. EbonySkyrim, and Tombraiser tried to help me. But I followed their exacting directions, but the Wiki wont Link my Userpage. Also, look at all my Userbox on my Profile, its under our Timeline.

20:01, January 31, 2014 (UTC)Ketick1998

"Propaganda"
It bugs me because, even if he's right and that random encounter is an Imperial (even though the Creation Kit clearly states Race=Redguard for that character in the encounter), that's one single Imperial. His claims of "Many non-Nord Stormcloaks" and "Most Nords support Ulfric and hate the Empire" are false. HE has no proof, then accuses ME of "spreading mis-information".  DRAEVAN13 02:33, February 1, 2014 (UTC)

Battle of Apocrypha
Is that RP abandoned or is everyone just taking a break? 13:05, February 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * We should try, that RP had potential. What I was thinking was having Bahlaan turn against the Dragon Cult and start the Tongues to free the citizens from slavery. But of course it wouldn't happen right away it would take time fore Bahlaan to turn against the Cult.  17:26, February 2, 2014 (UTC)

Battle of Apocrypha
HEy, Zip. I dont use Firefox anymore so I cant do the 3 refreshes to see Posts, since it went hidden posts on BoA. So....you have control of Bahnahkriid until they fix it, if they fix it in time.

— Profile/Talk 03:12, February 4, 2014 (UTC)Ketick1998

Forum Mod
Congrats! AngryEnclaveSoldier (talk) 00:01, February 7, 2014 (UTC)

Congrats....
...on Forum Moderator Position.

— Profile/Talk 01:01, February 7, 2014 (UTC)

Congrats!
Hey Zip! Just wanted to say congratulations on being a Forum Mod. :) HumbleDaedricServant (talk) 05:50, February 7, 2014 (UTC)

Congratulations
Congrats on becoming a forum moderator. :)

If I knew you applied, I would have voted. Is that so. Well... (talk) 06:32, February 7, 2014 (UTC)

Blog regarding Mods for Oblivion
Posted a blog about Oblivion Mods if you want to give it a read.  DRAEVAN13 15:49, February 7, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Undo Spamming
I haven't been spamming anything. If an unnecessary edit is made then, after considering its impact, it gets reverted if it contributes nothing to the page. Harold's edit was not "fine." It added information that was already present and was therefore clearly not necessary. - Erik the Mad (talk) 17:05, February 7, 2014 (UTC)


 * I understand where you're coming from, but the Asbjorn edit clarified nothing. As I said, it was already very clear. - Erik the Mad (talk) 19:46, February 7, 2014 (UTC)

Congrats
Well done on the Moderator position man! Maybe I was wrong about needing to wait a bit. I'm sure you'll do great work as a Forum Mod :). 19:01, February 7, 2014 (UTC)

Aretino Race
I noticed you made an edit to the Aventus Aretino page, and you changed his race from Nord to Imperial. I also noticed that there is a part of the trivia stating, "Despite being Nord, Aventus is sometimes referred to as Imperial by others." Is he an Imperial? If so, it should be deleted. You might want to check the page more before you publish it, there were two spaces between Imperial and child and you didn't change 'a' to 'an.' Goldflame33 (talk) 23:03, February 7, 2014 (UTC)


 * If I may butt in here for a moment. Aventus Aretino may have an Imperial name, but he is listed as a Nord in the CK. Maybe his father was an Imperial and his mother was a Nord. (See Racial Phylogeny). Assumptions aside, we have to go with the CK information. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  00:29, February 8, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Edit
Sorry, Zipper, I used to do that, too, but a a staff user said it was wiki policy not to have the game in the lead sentence of character pages.

I know it makes no sense, but, as everyone knows, there are some pretty weird rules on the wiki.

Screenshots
If you're on Steam, then it's simply F12. It'll save it to a Steam library and you can save it to your PC from there.  DRAEVAN13  05:31, February 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * When taking images with F12, you can find them in the Steam library on your commuter as he says. Under -> userdata then you can find them in one of the folders. Make a shortcut to the desktop for easy access. Look through the Media policy about screenshots as there are a few rules for screens. 11:53, February 9, 2014 (UTC)

Landmarks
Hi Zipper, those articles which you were categorizing as landmarks weren't landmarks. Landmarks are the locations marked with that little trianguly thing. Sorry for the bad explanation. Thanks. 18:49, February 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, thanks. If you look on the other landmark pages you can see on their map images that they have a particular symbol for landmarks. Thanks for obliging :). 18:56, February 9, 2014 (UTC)

Dragonborns of Skyrim
Hey Zip, I just made a new RP. Come check it out :).  19:46, February 9, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Uncapping
Actually, most of those things don't need to be capitalised, as described here. The Daedric sword may be a specific item, but Daedric is the only word needing to be capped. - Erik the Mad (talk) 22:38, February 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * This brings up an interesting point, though: why is any part of "daedric sword" capitalized at all? It's not a proper noun. That was the guidance I received - only proper nouns (i.e. that refer to only one thing) should be capitalized. The name of a person should be capitalized, but what about a group of people? Should "nord" or "imperial" be capitalized? If so, why? Why is "nord" any different than "wolf?" Is it just because the group referred to is a group of humans? Then what about "argonians?" They clearly aren't human, so why should "argonian" be capitalized? Is it maybe because, "they refer to groups of entities considered as unique?" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proper_noun If so, what's any more unique about "argonian" than "human"?


 * When you are talking about fantasy worlds with other intelligent groupos of beings, it seems that people want to treat any such group name as a proper name, even though the only distinguishing characteristic is that it's not human. I don't think that's right.Cubears (talk) 23:02, February 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * The names of animals and such aren't capitalised in-game, whereas Daedra is (in fact, I don't think I've ever seen it without a capital 'D'). I think the wiki is simply trying to follow that theme. - Erik the Mad (talk) 18:44, February 10, 2014 (UTC)

Wanna get interview?Talk page Emperor Jarjarkine   Contribs   05:24, February 10, 2014 (UTC)

I in the chat I hope you're not boring :DTalk page Emperor Jarjarkine   Contribs   05:36, February 10, 2014 (UTC)

Forum Glitch
How did you fixi t?

— Profile/Talk 02:18, February 11, 2014 (UTC)

I INTERVIEW TOMBRAISER!!!!!!!!!!!!Talk page Emperor Jarjarkine   Contribs   02:29, February 11, 2014 (UTC)

really good ! Will u comment?Talk page Emperor Jarjarkine   Contribs   03:50, February 11, 2014 (UTC)

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/User%20blog:Emperor%20Jarjarkine/Interview%20with%20the%20staff/Featured:TombRaiserTalk page Emperor Jarjarkine   Contribs   04:07, February 11, 2014 (UTC)

Deletion Template
The template for deleting pages is, in source mode, of course.

Ikabite (talk) 06:10, February 11, 2014 (UTC)

Chrome
I am using Chrome. It is the only Browser that doesnt give me ads. Profile/Talk 10:26, February 11, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Polls
Yes, but the polls I suggested were different. See the blog I linked on Jarjar's talk page. 20:33, February 12, 2014 (UTC)

here is the template ! :)Talk page Emperor Jarjarkine   Contribs   03:54, February 13, 2014 (UTC)

Culture of Skyrim
Well, could you give some examples of where did it appear in articles like Jorrvaskr? That category shouldn't really be there. Sure, the hall has to do with Whiterun's history, but other than that, there is nothing to relate with the province. 02:33, February 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, but Jorrvaskr isn't! The Companions are a group, every warrior in the province looks at them for what an warrior should be, and Jorrvaskr is just the mead hall. How is a mead hall culture? 02:45, February 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay, it just doesn't have anything to do with Skyrim as a whole. While we're at it, why did you add the enemies category to the Harkon page? 02:52, February 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * Miraak always appear hostile or almost hostile. Harkon is friendly if you joined the Volkihar clan. Besides, it could be taken as spoiler for people who didn't get to the end of the questline. 15:13, February 14, 2014 (UTC)

ok :)Talk page Emperor Jarjarkine   Contribs   20:21, February 14, 2014 (UTC)

I am on the ChatTalk page Emperor Jarjarkine   Contribs   20:45, February 14, 2014 (UTC)

New Poll
User_blog:Is_that_so._Well.../Favourite_Playable_Race

Is that so. Well... (talk) 06:33, February 15, 2014 (UTC)

Helfar Ice-Mane
Hey, Zipper, I noticed some mistakes on Helfar Ice-Mane, and I just wanted to give you a few tips on making articles: Please consider these things when making Online pages in the future. 16:13, February 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * Please put the new MMO template above articles; it's mandatory
 * Also, please add refs; this is also mandatory for Online articles because the game hasn't come out yet and sources must be implemented
 * instead of the full link of a game such as 'The Elder Scrolls Online,' try this template: . It's an easier way to write the title of the game.

Hirtel
Never mind, looks like Sky likes your edit.

18:03, February 15, 2014 (UTC)