User talk:Sky Above,Voice Within

Island
Duud, while technically Auridon is an island, it's also one of the main regions in the game, so it should be at "region", not "island". It'll just be confusing and unnecessary. Don't you agree? Ikabite (talk) 02:46, March 11, 2014 (UTC)~
 * Also, I was planing to go through all the location pages myself, now that I've added all the location screenshots I had. But you can do them if you wish, I guess. Ikabite (talk) 02:48, March 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * I added them in a somewhat hurry, so I though I'd go through them fixing minor mistakes and adding some more info/links. Ikabite (talk) 02:52, March 11, 2014 (UTC)

Past or Present tense?
Hey, so I've looked throuhg the Online factions and saw they were being used in past tense. I was just wondering, should I get rid of this, or leave it? Because I'm not entirely sure. Thanks. Zippertrain85 (talk) 03:02, March 13, 2014 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for telling me. :) Zippertrain85 (talk) 03:54, March 13, 2014 (UTC)

Re Lightning Bolt
Well, I did restore it. Have to check when I get home in the CK too, to be sure. Or are you certain it is correct? 08:19, March 13, 2014 (UTC)

New pages
Calling all patrollers to please remember to scout the Special:Newpages. Right now there are several hundred pages needing to be patrolled as many new pages are created these days. I have myself done a lot in the last couple of days but if you have the time, please help. Thanks... 13:30, March 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * Already on it, boss ;) 15:35, March 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks... 23:47, March 13, 2014 (UTC)

Re Badgehunter
Keeping an eye on him... :) 09:19, March 14, 2014 (UTC)

About the two Solstheim pages...
When I looked at the Solstheim (Bloodmoon) page, the user Chairmanprescott6179 have taken some of the information from Solstheim (Dragonborn) into it and added new valuable information about the third and fourth era (probably because the Dragonborn page is locked now?). Now as we have two pages about Solstheim (being both locations), one for The Elder Scrolls III: Bloodmoon and the other The Elder Scrolls V: Dragonborn, shouldn't we adjust the history to the time where those two add-ons are set in? For example, in the Bloodmoon add-on we shouldn't have history in the fourth era as it is set in the third era (you know what I mean?).

Or we could just make a new page for Solstheim as a general page for the island, but I'm not so sure about that...ugh, can you help me out here SkyAboveVoiceWithin? what do you think? Nontheless I'm very confused of what I should do! :/ – The Snow Prince (talk) 23:06, March 14, 2014 (UTC)

Reverted Edits
Sky, please in the future don't revert edits without giving a specific reason. You didn't give a reason for the revertion on the Boethiah's Proving page, and now I don't know what was wrong with my edit, that motivated you to revert it. Zippertrain85 (talk) 02:36, March 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * I meant to say "Once the Dragonborn reaches level 30". Must've not been paying attention when I did the edit. My bad. :/
 * But it's okay, just try to not do that as much in the future. That's all I was saying. Thanks. Zippertrain85 (talk) 02:45, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

Stay Fabulous :)

Re: Project
OK, good advice. I'll be sure to follow it in the future :) 19:08, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

Delphine
Nah, that should be fine. What would be weird is if you read some of the books in Books (Online), and realise that there's a mention-only Delphine that is neither of those three. That said, it might be helpful to have one at Delphine (Other) or Delphine (Disambig) or something. (CT time? I like CT's) :P Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 19:13, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

Nominating Zipper for patroller
Hey Sky, I think I've found a new candidate: Zipper. He makes many good edits, and he is interested in Online articles. He is active in all parts of the wiki, and could really help when Online comes out. Another member of the team couldn't hurt, frankly. New games are demanding of staff.

Edits: Zipper rephrases sentences so they can be more clear to readers, creates articles, points users to rules, and is generally very friendly. He is also very active on the chat and forums. He acts like a patroller, why don't we make it official? 19:16, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

Alright, but when he improves, he will be great. 20:18, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

Have I gotten better?
Hey Sky, just wanted to know, am I getting better with my edits? 20:20, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, just wanted to know ;) 20:36, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

Incorrect category
I see thanks for the tip, will remember that for future reference. Which edit are you referring to? I'm marking pages as patrolled right now, so I'm not sure which one I corrected. But you're welcome Sky. Ghost Anubis (talk) 17:09, March 16, 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh yeah no problem, but then I messed it up after that lol. Ghost Anubis (talk) 17:20, March 16, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Stuff and things
I'll answer your questions the same way you asked them:
 * 1) This page goes in to detail on what to do when patrolling new pages and how to handle moving files to a new name. I may recreate this as a proper article though. Took me a while to find it, but I knew it existed.
 * 2) Can you please ask Flightmare to add the "online" part to the Books template? I've tried adding it in on my test template, but it's not working the way I had intended. Flightmare will know how to make it work correctly.
 * 3) I agree, I think the characters should be listed by the cities (or region) they are found in instead of the by their province. This way we can use the province as the list category. We might need to do a consensus on this though, since there are locations that may benefit from being listed in their province and region; for easy searching. The Elder Scrolls Online is so big that it might require more defining categories. —TombRaiser  SPEAK!  23:32, March 16, 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes, I'll make the thread on it. Just need to gather up my words. :) —TombRaiser  SPEAK!  23:59, March 16, 2014 (UTC)

Stormcloak Shipment Cam
Hi. I appreciate your cleaning up articles, but in this case you're edits are creating an error. The two Compelling Tribute quests in Skyrim take place at different locations. The Stormcloak quest takes place over in the Reach (between Karthwasten and Dragon Bridge).

Thanks

Ayuir (talk) 17:58, March 17, 2014 (UTC) Ayuir

No problem on the edits, it's all a collaborative effort for the good. Just want to make sure all's accurate. Thanks.

Ayuir (talk) 22:24, March 17, 2014 (UTC) Ayuir

Ma bad
My bad about the Blaise edit. I thought the anon before me added the "other" to the article for some reason, so I reverted it. :P, not sure why I thought that. Thanks for spotting it. 20:58, March 17, 2014 (UTC)
 * T'is okay, just be more careful next time ;) 22:01, March 17, 2014 (UTC)

New patroller nomination
Hey Sky, I know I bug you with this crap a lot, but I may have found a new candidate: Draevan13

He's been helping recently with Online, he is active in all parts of the wiki, and all that.

Consider this. 23:26, March 20, 2014 (UTC)

Ehh, outside of a few minor edits, I don't see Draevan really doing very many Patroller duties. You can't give the position to everyone who edits on a somewhat regular basis, Ned. Being a Patroller is a tedicous job, where you need to Patroll the Mainspace articles for hours on end (hence the term Patroller). I don't think if Draevan is ready for such a job, when looking at his mainspace activity. Zippertrain85 (talk) 23:58, March 20, 2014 (UTC)

The Lady Stone
Um... that one is actually a different lady stone. The reference on the article was for an image on the lady stone that actually exists in Glenumbra. I believe there is one in the Ebonheart Pact locations as well. Suffice to say - I think we are going to have 3 different locations for these stones for all of them (the Lady Stone just being the most convenient to uncover). It's similar to the Long Lost Lore issue - its the same quest, but there are three different locations to go to (because Aldmeri Dominion aligned characters can't really travel to Silumn). Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 00:10, March 22, 2014 (UTC)

Re:nominations
Hey Sky, part of the reason I nominate or try to nominate so many people is because I believe it would be better to have a larger mainspace workforce. It's basically only you, Ebony, Flugs, FWP, Ghost, and MHInfinite who keep up the mainspace on a daily basis. AutoBlood, Balagog, and Cheatcodechamp really dont do anything anymore.

Recruiting say, ten more users, would be better, because then there would be near-constant monitoring of the wiki. Fifteen or sixteen relatively active patrollers really could do the wiki good. Now sometimes I have a brain fart, as with Draevan. However, giving people like Zipper the rollback tool could help the wiki, I think.

Consider this.

Sincerely, 18:50, March 25, 2014 (UTC)

Alao, I have something more to say. Consider the wiki a town of 30000 users and IP addresses. Let's say that there are five cops to monitor the town. They couldn't possibly catch everything. If the tonwn hiredhad fifteen, nearly three times more criminals would arrested, speeders would be ticketed, and such. This is why I think it would be a good idea to do this. 19:40, March 26, 2014 (UTC)

Locations
Locations aren't right. I messed up. Sorry. Was using cut paste and messed up. I think I mistakenly called a lot of them caves, too :l I was just trying to add known locations so we could start removing content from the Beta pages (those were new locations, but we know the region, so the regions all look more fleshed out) I blame editing whilst super exhausted :l Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 21:40, March 28, 2014 (UTC) Yeah. Thanks for noticing. I was in a rush last night Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 03:42, March 29, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Undoing edits
Thanks for tippin me off, I will be more careful in the future. 01:28, March 29, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for fixing up the Elmus page. :) 16:33, March 29, 2014 (UTC)

Waking Nightmare removal from Nightcaller temple
Why did you remove the Waking Nightmare quest from the Nightcaller Temple article? It is a location that is visited during that quest, so it definitely belongs there.Cubears (talk) 00:29, March 30, 2014 (UTC)


 * But the Locations article standard Style and formatting/Locations says that quests should be listed in a separate quests section. This is so that people can quickly see which quests are involved in any location.Cubears (talk) 00:37, March 30, 2014 (UTC)
 * Never mind - that's better now. There just needs to be a "Quests" section.Cubears (talk) 00:39, March 30, 2014 (UTC)
 * Gotta love English... :-) If I wasn't raised speaking it, I'd much prefer something else. The "rules" (such as they are) are often insane. Cubears (talk) 00:44, March 30, 2014 (UTC)
 * That may be, but the trade off is that English is so imprecise. That's why we need armies of lawyers - if you try to say something the easy way, there are multiple ways to interpret it, so instead laywers just keep loading on the words untl a single sentence becomes several paragraphs. I write software for a living - I often wish I could write legal documents in Java, because you could then test them. ;-) Cubears (talk) 01:00, March 30, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for tipping me off on Timeoin's talk page. I had no idea that this was badgehunting, and the last thing I need right now is to be accused of it again. 02:04, March 30, 2014 (UTC)

Aldmeri Dominion Members
Hey Sky, just making sure you are awar that the category 'Aldmeri Dominion Members' is used for userboxes. Maybe it would be better to create a new category or use the 'Online: Aldmeri Dominion' category. Flugsmith (talk) 17:25, April 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * Woops, no, I didn't know. I created the proper category now, as "Online: Aldmeri Dominion", like its similar categories for Skyrim, should only be used for critical Dominion articles. Thanks for the heads-up. 17:40, April 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * You posted your reply on the category page :P. Flugsmith (talk) 17:40, April 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * My brain has been acting Skyrim... 17:42, April 1, 2014 (UTC)

Speculation on Aventus Aretino
Why are you saying that the sentence "This is possibly due to his name," is not speculation? The word "possibly" automatically makes it speculation. Unless someone has hard evidence (like a Bethesda blog post) that says specifically why he is sometimes called an Imperial, this is speculation and needs to be removed. If you really thing it's not speculation, then the proper thing is to remove the word "possibly", but again, we need hard evidence to make that change. Cubears (talk) 06:32, April 2, 2014 (UTC)


 * Where is the reference to anything that explains names common for Imperials, or that explains the structure of Imperial names? My main issue is with the work "possibly." Even changing it to something like, "... the name sounds Imperial..." would be much better, because "possibly" just screams "speculation." After all, it's definition is "used to say something might happen, exist, or be true but is not certain" (from the Merriam Webster dictionary). However, I think a reference is needed - I think most people have no idea what makes a name sound Imperial, Nord, etc.Cubears (talk) 02:40, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you - that's much better. Cubears (talk) 02:51, April 3, 2014 (UTC)

Race
Hi Sky, how do you see what race they are in Online unless it's obvious (Orc, khajiit). Or is it as simple as there are no other races in Dagerfall than those three mentioned, redguard, Breton and Orc? 06:39, April 3, 2014 (UTC)