Board Thread:Consensus Track/@comment-26893431-20180203204530

Hello peeps, Jauffre here. I feel the need to come back on a previous Moot decision.

In a previous Moot (I think it was january?) it was decided to not seperate the Out-Of-Game template for the Novels and Obscure Texts, because both are out-of-game which was true, and considered fine.

But last week the topic came back in my head, and I realized something. We're a wiki of the franchise, not the games specifically. Sure, most of our material is related to ingame events, characters, quests, etc, because most of the franchise is, well, in a game.

But not all of it is. The Novels being part of the franchise, but not in the game proves this. And with Pete Hines saying "Yes, we consider the Elder Scrolls novels canon to TES lore.", is there really any reason to care that they are not ingame? In another event Hines specifically states the Novels are part of the franchise, but unfortunately, I couldn't find that qupte.

Anyway, back to the topic. Canoncity is not the point of this post, but the OOG thing is. Before the Novels came out, it made sense to have an OOG template, because practically all the content we had was from the games, official material was gathered in the games themselves. But ever since the Novels came out, it's made the OOG template, well, strange in a sense.

Because we shouldn't care if it's from a game or not, since we are The Elder Scrolls Wiki, we should only care if it's part of The Elder Scrolls Franchise or not. Not if it's inside, or outside of one of the game.

I don't think a re-vote should be made until opinions are gathered regarding this matter, as the reasoning for the refusal to change the template was quite logical in the last Moot. I just think that maybe people agree with this kind of thinking, focused on the franchise instead of it being in- or out-of-game.

I'm not saying that we should remove OOG sources alltogether, far from it. OOG sources, especially those from Kirkbride, tend to sometimes at least partially make it ingame, and therefor, should still be found and/or used on the wiki, because they might make an appearance in future games.

But I do think we need to seperate what is part of the Franchise and what might someday be part of the Franchise. Because it doesn't really matter if something is part of the game, because that doesn't define if it is Elder Scrolls or not, we shouldn't care if it's ingame or out-of-game, as we're a wiki that covers the franchise, we should care on what is part of the franchise. 