Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-11345660-20130908095939/@comment-11345660-20130911075743

Lol. Your source is "Heretical Thoughts." Oh yeah, I'm sure they are a good source. Now, on to the Greymarch. I have a high respect for your theory, as it is quite far off from mainstream belief. However, with the thing with Jyggalag being created from someone becoming Sheogorath. There is a problem with your theory here. At the end of the Isles, you successfully broke Jyggalags curse and freed him. If another is to be created, and this has happened many times as you say, how many freaking Jyggalag's are out their right now? What makes the Hero of Kvatch so different from the sole called "other heroes" that apparently came before him that he was able to break the curse? It was broken in front of your very eyes! How can another Jyggalag come into being? I agree that one could become insane enough to develop a dual personality disorder, but the original Sheogorath was cursed to be like that, not because he went insane, quite the opposite. If people kept becoming the new Sheogorath every grey march, what happens to their Jyggalag? It doesn't just go away, as shown in the Isles ending. It makes no sense. If Jyggalag returned every time, why would Jyggalag say his curse was broken? You would be in the exact same position as when you started!

Sorry, the way the sentence was structured made it look as if they quote was talking about Lorkhan, Sheogorath, Akatosh, ect. as the same person. But Akatosh and Lorkhan as the same person? When the heck did this happen? It is actually apparent in the game that Akatosh and Lorkhan are two completly seperate entities. Lorkhan was killed by Trinimac, Champion of Akatosh! Trinimac was supposed to be the most honerable guy in the universe. Why suddenly switch loyalty? No where does it say that Akatosh and Lorkhan are the same. And no, your articles don't confirm it, it was still made by fans who delved a little to deep it seems. Until Bethesda says they are the same, they are not. What proof of this is there anyway other then coincidence? It is said by most lore that Lorkhan tricked Akatosh along with the other Divines to give up their powers to create Nirn, and he was killed for that. Why murder the cheif god out of all of them, the only god who still seems to retain some of his power? Akatosh has displayed that some of his power is still active, as in the Amulet of Kings. Lorkhan is supposed to be dead, his heart being the only lasting legacy he has. He can't do anything if he is dead. They are seperate.

Again, it is explained by Jyggalag himself, Daedric Prince of Order, Deduction, and LOGIC, he was cursed, and he transformed into what he hated most, Sheogorath. This created by Lorkhan nonsense is what it is, nonsense. Again, high respect for your theory, but Sheogorath was not created this way. Even if I did buy this theory, the only part I could actually believe is Jyggalag being created by Akatosh because he is more stagnant than other Daedric Princes, more Anuic in nature...Wait hold on, that's why! Enough of this Lorkhan being Akatosh and therefore Sheogorath and Jyggalag bullcrap, we are forgetting where it all began.

Uh no, I understand the origins perfectly. It is said that Anu and Padomay, and being an apparent Lore Fanatic, I am sure you have heard of them, clashed and the blood they spilt became the Aedra and Daedra, the Daedra from Padomay's blood, and the Aedra from the mizture of Anu and Padomay's blood. Jyggalag was created a Daedric Prince, he even refers to himself as such, and for someone who has recorded everything ever having to do with Daedra, Men, and Mer, I would take his word for it, but he could also have a small hint of Anu's blood in there as well, making him a Stagnant and "Unchangable" unless forced too.

You seem to have hit a snag in your "Balancing equation" my friend. You see, Jyggalag was cursed to be Sheogorah because the other Daedra knew it was what he hated most, and so subjected upon him that curse. You say it yourself. "A daedra who was sealed by the others to become Sheo because he grew too powerful." You directly contradict everything you said up to this point, because how could the Daedra curse Jyggalag to become Sheo if Sheo was created by Lorkhan's loss of Creativity? And besides, the Aedra didn't kill Lorkhan because he was growing powerful, in fact he is the only one that ended up dead. They did it because he drained their powers because his wasn't enough to create a world. The Daedra cursed, not killed, Jyggalag because he was growing strong. So by your logic: Aedra killed Lorkhan because he draine their powers, Daedra curse Jyggalag to become Sheo who was also apparently existing at the time of Jyggalag as apparently Akatosh and Lorkhan are the same person, even though Akatosh is a being of stasis while Lorkhan represented change, but apparntly managed to create two beings that directly contradict what they are all about, thus contradicting that argument as well because it makes no goddang sense, and Jyggalag became Sheo, a being of stasis cursed with bearing the burden of change. Yes, that's a strong balance right there. Maybe in the Shivering Isles, which is also known for it's fantastic sources like Zealotry and Hereitc Thoughts, written by Insane people.