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Hbxn wrote: 1. Wulfharth L 2. Hjalti O  3. Ysmir R  4. Talos K  5. Arctus H  6. Septim A  N

what does it even supposed to means.....? It means those are various avatars of Lorkahn

so you're trying to tell me that there is actually 3 Shors living in the same time..................

and Underkings story's not yet have been officialy stated so he could be either Zurin or Wulfharth, this Underking problem, still remains a mistery No, there was only one, because Tiber Septim, Ysmir Wulfharth, and Zurin Arctus are just three fractals of the over soul of Talos.

That's why in Daggerfall no one could get who's soul powered the Numidium's mantella correct, the blades say it was the emperors, Zurin(The Underking) says it was his, the heresy says it was Wulfharth's.

That is why the Underking story is so confusing, is it Zurin, or is it Wulfharth? If it was Zurin, why are there mentions of the Underking before Zurin was born? If it was The Underking, how can the Underking continue to live even after he died?

It's also the cause of all the errors in Tiber Septim's life, the orthodxy says he was from Atmora..... yet the last ship from Atmora came in the early 1st Era, ages before Tiber was born, yet the Underking was alive then.

Tiber = ysmir = zurin, they are all fragments of the over soul of Lorkhan aka Talos.

and Mr.kirkbird is a former Lore Master & game Designer ,he's definitely not the current Leading TES Loremaster.......right, because the current one is Mr.Schick.but still i respected him in the same way as i respected all other peoples who makes TES franchise born. You are aware Kirkbride wrote the Knights of the Nine DLc, the commentaries on the myserius xarxes, the Remanada, the song of pelinal, the white gold concordant, all after he left Bethesda right?

Also Mr. Schick is the loremaster of TESO, a game full of timeline inaccuracies and lore goofs..... not the TEs series as a whole.