User:KINMUNE/chatlog/20181103

The proposal only affects items like that, actually, because they can be opened like a book and have those contents (a text or a map) Online: Crafting Surveys Online: Treasure Maps Online: Crafting Materials
 * 10:06:21: KINMUNE: Hello there, Donquixote Eldorado!
 * 10:06:54: Donquixote Eldorado: yo
 * 10:07:26: RenzXVI: Hi
 * 10:08:13: RenzXVI: People are so stupid. Who in the right mind would attack a bus driver while it's on the road? https://www.news.com.au/world/asia/heartstopping-footage-reveals-moment-bus-driver-plunges-vehicle-into-a-river-in-china/news-story/edbebb08b7b279e642bac518891afea3
 * 10:08:26: Donquixote Eldorado: while the bus is on the road?
 * 10:08:41: Donquixote Eldorado: so lik
 * 10:08:51: Donquixote Eldorado: like they tried to ram into the bus?
 * 10:09:23: RenzXVI: No, the passenger attacked the bus driver.
 * 10:09:56: RenzXVI: So they fell off a bridge and sank into water, 15 dead, no survivors.
 * 10:12:09: Donquixote Eldorado: oh
 * 10:12:10: Donquixote Eldorado: lol
 * 10:12:17: Donquixote Eldorado: why did he attack the bus driver
 * 10:13:34: RenzXVI: Because she missed her bus stop.
 * 10:14:03: Donquixote Eldorado: lol what the fuck
 * 10:14:32: Donquixote Eldorado: you got yourself and 14 other innocent people killed because your dumb ass missed your own bus stop
 * 10:14:37: Donquixote Eldorado: hope it was worth it
 * 10:14:55: RenzXVI: Yeah, which is why it's stupid.
 * 10:15:16: RenzXVI: You can't attack the driver of the vehicle that you are riding for whatever reason.
 * 10:18:16: Donquixote Eldorado: her family doesnt deserve to be sued tho
 * 10:18:43: Donquixote Eldorado: i dont like that the government or whoever is basically giving them permission to do that
 * 10:19:31: RenzXVI: I think people who cause bad things could have the option to be sued.
 * 10:20:39: Donquixote Eldorado: they didnt do anything
 * 10:20:46: Donquixote Eldorado: they just are related to an idiot
 * 10:22:38: RenzXVI: It depends, but for this situation, I agree that they shouldn't be sued. But if the woman still has money that she left behind, maybe the family should hand a fine over. As long as it's not the family's cash.
 * 10:25:08: RenzXVI: I don't get mass shootings, why does it seem like it only happens in America?
 * 10:27:16: Donquixote Eldorado: thats fair
 * 10:27:22: Donquixote Eldorado: also it mostly does
 * 10:27:51: Donquixote Eldorado: the us had more fatalities in mass shootings one year than all the other in the top 10 countries combined
 * 10:28:02: Donquixote Eldorado: top 10 in mass shooting totals not kills
 * 10:28:10: Donquixote Eldorado: the issue is automatic guns are so easy to get
 * 10:28:47: Donquixote Eldorado: the other counrties in the top 10 they need to get either semi automatic guns or just small arms
 * 10:28:53: Donquixote Eldorado: so less fatalities
 * 10:29:13: RenzXVI: I disagree with that. Most armed criminals get guns illegally.
 * 10:30:21: Donquixote Eldorado: i didnt say that they could legally get them easily
 * 10:30:26: RenzXVI: Maybe there are more psychologically troubled people there that see mass shooting as the go-to trend.
 * 10:30:28: Donquixote Eldorado: its ust easy
 * 10:30:32: Donquixote Eldorado: just*
 * 10:31:11: Donquixote Eldorado: the usa is one of the few countries where you can make a single phone call and within the hour be prepped for a mass shooting
 * 10:31:21: Donquixote Eldorado: at least in the arms department
 * 10:31:59: Donquixote Eldorado: because the usa doesnt try to control the guns that come in via import, and they also sale their used full autos to places that then sell it to people who sell it illegally
 * 10:32:05: Donquixote Eldorado: its a massive shitshow
 * 10:35:10: RenzXVI: Which is the reason why I think it's a psychological problem. People get a breakdown and decide to do a mass shooting. While third-world countries with lower security, higher crime rate and more bad people with arms don't start shootings for no reason.
 * 10:37:37: Donquixote Eldorado: its a combination im sure
 * 10:41:17: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: professional criminals will indeed get guns anyhow, but the kids who shoot up schools and such things generally aren't professional criminals
 * 10:41:39: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: criminals tend to be smart and don't shoot people at random
 * 10:41:57: RenzXVI: And that's what I don't get. Why do depressed teens feel the need to do a mass shooting if they wanna commit suicide?
 * 10:42:28: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: bc they're angry at their school
 * 10:43:08: RenzXVI: There's a new one, it was at some yoga place.
 * 10:43:15: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: oh
 * 10:43:24: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: then the person was angry at the yoga place
 * 10:43:26: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: idk
 * 10:43:29: RenzXVI: I guess the yoga place lied, it didn't relax his rage. Lol
 * 10:47:09: Donquixote Eldorado: its a way to go out with a bang
 * 10:47:38: Donquixote Eldorado: i gurantee you if they didnt publicize it so much there wouldnt be as many
 * 10:55:24: RenzXVI: On other news, dogs are awesome! https://streamable.com/9z73l
 * 10:59:36: RenzXVI: Cats don't care about their owners as much as dogs. Lol
 * 11:05:12: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: dogs are evil monsters. cats are kawaii
 * 11:05:39: RenzXVI: They ride public transport just to visit their owner, cats are the heartless ones.
 * 11:06:32: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: humans also ride public transport to visit people. does that mean all humans are awesome?
 * 11:06:57: RenzXVI: No, only dogs.
 * 11:07:44: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: the asian girls in that vid are cute though
 * 11:08:03: RenzXVI: You mean the dog.
 * 11:08:26: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: nah, the dog is evil
 * 11:08:36: RenzXVI: Btw, what race do you think Hawaiians look like?
 * 11:09:29: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: idk, probably like polynesians
 * 11:10:28: RenzXVI: They confuse me. Isn't it supposed to be an American place? Lol
 * 11:11:09: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: it's part of the united states, but that doesn't make it part of the american continent
 * 11:11:35: RenzXVI: That just confused me even more.
 * 11:15:01: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: hawaii is a group of islands in the pacific ocean, just like all the other polynesian/melanesian/idk-nesian islands. therefore, it makes sense that the natives would belong to the same race
 * 11:16:38: RenzXVI: I'll just say Hawaii is weird lol
 * 11:16:53: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: in the 19th century, the US came in and decided they own those islands, but that doesn't change anything about where the islands are or what race the indigenous people are
 * 11:18:13: RenzXVI: I know something stranger... Like how Eskimoes are supposed to be Northern Canadians and Russians but they look different.
 * 11:19:20: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: they don't really look different from native canadians
 * 11:19:37: Donquixote Eldorado: i have a cat that acts like a dog
 * 11:19:42: Donquixote Eldorado: and shes very lovey
 * 11:19:54: Donquixote Eldorado: not all cats act like cats
 * 11:20:16: RenzXVI: Yeah, if the cat acts like a dog then of course it's awesome.
 * 11:20:37: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: does it bark at random people?
 * 11:20:46: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: if no, then it doesn't act like a dog
 * 11:21:33: RenzXVI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI1UKOdXynQ
 * 11:21:35: KINMUNE: Parrot Barking Like A Dog
 * 11:22:02: Donquixote Eldorado: thats not all dogs do
 * 11:22:32: RenzXVI: Cats barely do anything.
 * 11:24:53: Donquixote Eldorado: i am smitten with my kitten
 * 13:16:30: Nekyn Alb: Hi
 * 13:27:07: RenzXVI: Hi Nekyn Alb
 * 13:27:13: RenzXVI: https://streamable.com/9z73l dogs are awesome.
 * 14:57:57: RenzXVI: I am babysitting my nephew and the mom is out of town, didn't know she'd be away longer until a few hours ago. I guess I'll just watch Batman Beyond until my eyes bleed, my back already hurts... No way I could sleep on the floor in the kid's room. Especially not with his night light thingy. How do kids sleep with that thing? It looks like a poltergeist is trying to zap its way out of the electrical socket.
 * 14:58:19: RenzXVI: It's better to be pitch black.
 * 15:16:32: Nekyn Alb: lol
 * 18:25:41: KINMUNE: Hello there, Stygies VIII!
 * 18:26:32: Stygies VIII: hello, Kinmune
 * 18:28:31: Nekyn Alb: o/
 * 18:28:42: Stygies VIII: hai
 * 19:23:49: KINMUNE: Hello there, Blademaster Jauffre!
 * 19:33:02: KINMUNE: Hello there, DaBarkspawn!
 * 19:50:27: KINMUNE: Hello there, Bronkiin!
 * 20:01:29: KINMUNE: Hello there, Poisoned apples!
 * 20:05:55: Poisoned apples: hello
 * 20:06:08: Stygies VIII: hello
 * 20:07:03: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: ello
 * 20:07:19: DaBarkspawn: Hola
 * 20:07:36: Atvelonis: Hi
 * 20:07:39: Atvelonis: Can't stay long
 * 20:07:47: KINMUNE: Hello there, TinyClayMan!
 * 20:07:51: TinyClayMan: Greetings
 * 20:07:51: Stygies VIII: then
 * 20:07:57: Stygies VIII: let's do stuff
 * 20:08:00: Stygies VIII: hello TIny
 * 20:08:26: DaBarkspawn: Speed moot
 * 20:08:36: Stygies VIII: v e r y f a s t  moot
 * 20:08:43: TinyClayMan: The proposal is to add additional categories for online images
 * 20:08:53: Stygies VIII: what does it mean exactly
 * 20:08:58: Stygies VIII: like, for DLC?
 * 20:08:59: TinyClayMan: For example Online: Treasure Map Images or Online: Crafting Survey Images
 * 20:09:05: Stygies VIII: ahhh
 * 20:09:18: Stygies VIII: isn't that a little bit too detailed
 * 20:09:24: Atvelonis: Aren't they just items?
 * 20:09:38: Stygies VIII: I mean, categories like this make 100% sense for articles
 * 20:09:42: Stygies VIII: but not really for images
 * 20:09:49: TinyClayMan: Why not?
 * 20:10:09: Stygies VIII: because they aren't really used by people who browse and how would that benefit editors?
 * 20:10:27: Stygies VIII: also why am I the only one talking
 * 20:11:11: DaBarkspawn: TBH, I've not played ESO, so I don't know that I have an informed opinion on this particular proposal, so I refrained, Styg
 * 20:11:31: TinyClayMan: It would be the same as with the categories for articles. Better detail
 * 20:11:51: Stygies VIII: well, I get it why Treasure Map images might be useful in a category, but an user or editor is more likely to look for them in articles
 * 20:11:54: Stygies VIII: not image categories
 * 20:12:03: Atvelonis: I guess due to the number of items in ESO this could make it easier to distinguish
 * 20:12:18: Atvelonis: We don't have all the ESO item images yet, but there are several thousand
 * 20:12:39: Stygies VIII: the problem is, how do we choose which images should be separate - all items, chosen items?
 * 20:12:50: Stygies VIII: Treasure Maps sure could be
 * 20:12:55: TinyClayMan: Right now there are only categories for Reagent Icons and Ingredients
 * 20:12:56: Stygies VIII: but do we make categories for all other types, too
 * 20:13:45: Atvelonis: I guess treasure maps are slightly different because they aren't just an icon with that popup like most items
 * 20:13:57: Atvelonis: If you open a treasure map it's something closer to a book. But not quite a book
 * 20:14:15: Stygies VIII: ^
 * 20:14:25: Stygies VIII: it's a map lol
 * 20:14:25: DaBarkspawn: Is there a use case where one might want to go through all treasure maps in some order?
 * 20:14:31: TinyClayMan: The ones which I used as an example have that special feature
 * 20:15:13: TinyClayMan: To edit them with a bot (the first thing that came to mind)
 * 20:16:44: Atvelonis: https://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Online:_Item_Images
 * 20:16:52: Atvelonis: They do look a little out of place in here
 * 20:18:07: TinyClayMan: >a book but not quite a book
 * 20:19:33: Stygies VIII: then it's a good idea imo
 * 20:19:38: TinyClayMan: /That should be it for the first part (crafting surveys and item maps) of this proposal/
 * 20:19:52: Atvelonis: So I assume these would be categorized under Online: Items
 * 20:20:03: TinyClayMan: A subcategory, yes
 * 20:20:06: Stygies VIII: yeah
 * 20:20:12: Atvelonis: Ok, no problems from me then
 * 20:21:28: TinyClayMan: Second part of this proposal would be a category for Crafting Items
 * 20:22:29: TinyClayMan: *Crafting materials
 * 20:23:05: Atvelonis: Do they need a subcat?
 * 20:23:14: Atvelonis: They look like regular items to me
 * 20:23:44: TinyClayMan: We have a subcat for Reagents and Ingredients.
 * 20:23:49: TinyClayMan: subcats*
 * 20:24:02: Stygies VIII: for consistency, this is a good idea
 * 20:24:06: Stygies VIII: but mostly for that
 * 20:25:14: Atvelonis: Sure
 * 20:25:34: TinyClayMan: That's the end of the proposal
 * 20:27:01: Atvelonis: Ok, so to summarize
 * 20:27:21: Atvelonis: Create subcategories in Online: Items for Treasure Maps, Crafting Surveys, and Crafting Materials
 * 20:27:25: Atvelonis: Yes?
 * 20:27:47: TinyClayMan: Yes
 * 20:28:18: DaBarkspawn: Yes
 * 20:28:50: Atvelonis: (+)
 * 20:29:00: DaBarkspawn: (+)
 * 20:29:18: TinyClayMan: (+)
 * 20:29:22: Stygies VIII: (+)
 * 20:29:23: KINMUNE: Hello there, Pelinal Whitestrake!
 * 20:29:26: Stygies VIII: hi
 * 20:29:28: Pelinal Whitestrake: Hello
 * 20:30:37: Atvelonis: hi
 * 20:30:39: Atvelonis: 4-0-0
 * 20:30:51: Atvelonis: Other votes? @Bronkiin, @Poisoned apples?
 * 20:30:57: Atvelonis: You can vote too Pelinal
 * 20:31:07: Atvelonis: @fin @nekyn
 * 20:31:22: Nekyn Alb: (+)
 * 20:31:29: Poisoned apples: (+)
 * 20:31:59: Bronkiin: (Y)
 * 20:32:02: Bronkiin: boo
 * 20:32:04: Bronkiin: old fashioned one
 * 20:32:06: Bronkiin: (+)
 * 20:32:14: Atvelonis: 7-0-0
 * 20:32:52: Atvelonis: Ok
 * 20:32:54: DaBarkspawn: I love it when a plan comes together
 * 20:33:11: Atvelonis: Rozty had some topics but she's not here right now
 * 20:33:17: Atvelonis: I have to go
 * 20:33:29: DaBarkspawn: Move to adjourn
 * 20:33:36: Atvelonis: Any other topics to discuss?
 * 20:33:44: Atvelonis: Bron can lead in my absence
 * 20:34:16: Stygies VIII: see you
 * 20:34:30: TinyClayMan: Seems like nothing else will be discussed
 * 20:34:34: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: (-)
 * 20:34:36: Stygies VIII: yeah
 * 20:34:45: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: (=) sorry misclick
 * 20:34:51: Atvelonis: Ok then
 * 20:34:56: DaBarkspawn: Welp, the only items left are hers, she's not here and I think we decided not to discuss things in absence of the person
 * 20:35:20: Atvelonis: Then by the power vested in me by our lord Todd, I hereby declare this moot over
 * 20:35:25: DaBarkspawn: lol
 * 20:35:26: Atvelonis: @Poisoned apples write summary pls
 * 20:35:28: Stygies VIII: kek
 * 20:35:29: Atvelonis: o/
 * 20:35:35: Stygies VIII: bye
 * 20:35:38: DaBarkspawn: And there was much rejoicing!
 * 20:35:39: Poisoned apples: that has to be the fastest moot i have ever witnessed
 * 20:35:39: TinyClayMan: Bye
 * 20:35:46: Stygies VIII: lmao
 * 20:37:50: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: lol
 * 21:18:59: Bronkiin: "Bron can lead in my absence" whoops
 * 21:19:08: Bronkiin: :'(
 * 23:04:38: Donquixote Eldorado: welp