Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-68.38.233.218-20140216001937/@comment-13446185-20140219211044

AngryEnclaveSoldier wrote: Dovahsebrom wrote: AngryEnclaveSoldier wrote: Dovahsebrom wrote: AngryEnclaveSoldier wrote

A person who has achieved CHIM is damn selfish. They can potentially do whatever they want to do, but they only do it if they really want it. Vivec doesn't really care that much about the Baan Daar, Morrowind and the Dunmer. He only really cares about himself. Every CHIMster only cares about himself. I feel like I have to disagree with this, I'm pretty sure CHIM has to do with loving the universe. Can you give me some evidence that you're right? Well, I don't really have much evidence. All I can say is that if Vivec would really care about the Dunmer and Morrowind, he would have stopped Baan Dar from crashing into Vivec City. And don't get me wrong, CHIMster love the Universe. But they love it through loving themselves, since everything in the Godheads dream (including the CHIMster) is the Godhead. So, if they love themselves they also love the Universe which is the Godhead and themselves (I ARE ALL WE). Tiber (or Talos, if the oversoul still has CHIM) removed Cyrodiils jungle from the Godheads dream. Why? Because he wanted it. He really wanted it to be gone (maybe he hated it, I dunno). He could have also just removed the Thalmor too. But he didn't, even though he probably knew that they were the biggest threat to him. That's because he, for some reason, didn't want it.

A CHIMsters self-love is probably also the reason why there's only one known Amaranth, Anu. Becoming an Amaranth is selfless, while achieving CHIM is selfish. "I breathe now, in royalty, and reshape this land which is mine. I do this for you, Red Legions, for I love you." -From The Many-Headed Talos

This doesn't explain why he didn't do anything against the Thalmor to save all humans (and the Legion). If he would really care for all humans and for his legion, he would have done something against the Thalmor. True, but I'm still skeptical on the matter.