Board Thread:Consensus Track/@comment-1251315-20151018142559/@comment-1738746-20151020064556

Amen to CCC and Wulfharth's big posts, they've essentially said a lot of what I would have.

To Sajuuk, with regards to the "That seriously isn't a difficult concept." comment: Users are simply asking you to be more objective with your discussion because they're confused as to what the purpose is i.e. what we should be discussing at this point. Originally you had some ideas for what changes you wanted to be made, but they weren't entirely specific so users asked you to clarify this better i.e. give us an example of a rule change. Now apparently the topic is asking for other users to propose changes to the chat policy instead rather than making the suggestions yourself. I'm highlighting here that users are probably confused by the subjective nature of the discussion and simply want to know what you would like us to talk about. A discussion needs a direction, otherwise users simply go off-topic.

Would you like us to submit ideas for chat rule changes or would you like us to discuss the changes you offered in your initial post? If your aim is to collect the views and opinions of others on novel suggestions (i.e. not your suggestions), I recommend changing the last paragraph in your first post which proposes the discussion of points you have highlighted as opposed to opening up the CT to suggestions from others. In fact, apart from the "Discuss below" line, no where in your entire first post does it invite users to contribute novel suggestions, and is rather aimed at discussing the issues you've highlighted within the policy. I hope this helps you to better understand the confusing of users here and why the discussion is either going nowhere or going in different directions :)