User talk:Kennyannydenny

Cultist
The gloves and boots are clothing. Please double check. Jimeee (talk) 16:22, December 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Why are they clothing? Because they have no armor rating? But they are part of the same set as some armor pieces are. 16:24, December 4, 2012 (UTC)

IRC?
Can you come on? Jimeee (talk) 10:28, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

Lusty Argonian
That's what I thought the book was originally name in-game, but I couldn't remember, since I didn't pay much attention to the title of the book when I got it in the game. Too immersed to remember. lol — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  18:34, December 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * I just redirected the full title name. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  18:38, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

Five Far Stars
Actually, I moved it because the content is different. Its a much more abbreviated version in Dragonborn. Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 18:55, December 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I know. Sorry about that. Damn kid means I havent had time to copy out all the text yet :( Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 19:00, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

Just So You Know
I actually haven't played much of Dragonborn yet. My wife was getting pissy at me for spending less time playing it as updating the wiki for the game i was meant to be enjoying. (In other words - it was boring :P). That, and, well, no time to play it. Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 11:35, December 6, 2012 (UTC)

Typing
Float up...

Jimeee (talk) 16:55, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

Monobook changes
Hi. I'm hoping to contribute to this wiki in the future. However, like most MediaWiki users, I can't fathom the navigation on the Oasis skin. The Monobook skin requires some changes.

/* Headers */ h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, h6 { color:#ffffff; } The headers on Monobook currently appear as black, which on a dark grey background is hard to read. Changing this to white will fix the problem.

/* styling for MediaWiki:Edittools */ #edittools, #editpage-specialchars {   border:2px solid #DFCAA0; background:#4C4C4C; } From Mediawiki:Common.css

Likewise, the white text on khaki makes the edittools box difficult to read. Changing this to a light grey will solve this problem.

Also, I've notice that Special:Preferences doesn't display properly on Monobook, the white text not displaying on the beige background.

I would be grateful if these problems could be fixed. Thanks --Inops (talk) 17:25, December 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll see what i can do together with my fellow administrators. 17:28, December 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll try to look into this when i have the time. Jimeee (talk) 17:31, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

Stolen Content
The Skyrim Console commands page is completely stolen from UESP, the links even direct to UESP... its obvious due to cluster **** of a template Mask2697 (talk) 18:30, December 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * You mean: Console Commands (Skyrim)? I've compared it with the uesp page, doesn't really look like it. Off course they both mention console commands, but thats obvious. I also can't find any links to uesp. Could you be more specific please? 18:40, December 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Oops, never mind. You ment the newly created page. I deleted it. 20:18, December 9, 2012 (UTC)

help
please get back to me about the cave ive been mnetioning in my posts i realy need help with this. thanks in advanced

Mastercodeagain (talk) 13:58, December 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Dear MCA, the cave you're talking about is Hrothmund's Barrow. Its involved in the quest Retaking Thirsk. But as far as i know, there is no way to obtain the weapon in the stone. I tried several things, which didn't work. 14:01, December 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * well thank you but, this is confusing me. their has to be a way if not why put it in... also do you know how many dragon priests are in the new DLC? so far all I have is Meerak, or however you spell it, and 2 others each had a vault with a black book, i have all of them i beleive but if their are more priests their could be more books i have to check it.
 * I'm not sure. As far as i know are these, Ahzidal, Miraak, Zahkriisos, Vahlok the Jailer and Dukaan. 20:28, December 10, 2012 (UTC)

Requesting Admin
Talk:Serana. Thank you. :) Doreiku Kuroofangu 17:59, December 10, 2012 (UTC)

Ramshackle
I have not had a chance to test it today, but when I do i'll let you know. Seems legit though : /

Jimeee (talk) 22:55, December 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * I tried to wait many times at the shack at 12:00 and he never appears. I have completed the main quest so I have no idea why it wont work. Maybe he is dead somewhere :(


 * Jimeee (talk) 17:32, December 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * Since I see you both are also looking for this guy, I was also having a problem getting Falas Selvayn to appear at the shack by just waiting there. Then I thought, maybe you have to sleep in a bed in order for him to reappear. So, I took a nap at Hrodulf's House until 11:00pm and then fast traveled to Ramshackle Trading Post, and there he was! Except, in my game, his inventory does not have the Glass Bow of the Stag Prince, instead he is carrying an ordinary Ebony Bow. :-\  Edit: Also, he can't die, I already tried to kill the guy and he just goes down to the ground. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  05:28, December 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok. I'll try it today. I hope he has the bow though :| And yes, as far as i know he's essential, thats what i read about the guy around the internet. 08:41, December 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well i tried it and it worked. He carries the glass bow in my game. Thanks a lot Tomb! :) 22:27, December 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * I met him too but he had the bow equiped so I had to respec to pickpocket it from him. :(
 * Jimeee (talk) 22:59, December 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * I was finally able to pickpocket the bow off of him. I already had the Misdirection perk, but for some reason it wasn't allowing me to pickpocket the bow. So, I went back to Apocrypha to reset my Pickpocketing skills and re-add them. Finally it worked! Now after all that, I'm going to hang the bow on a weapon rack. Haha :) — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  01:05, December 14, 2012 (UTC)

Classes in Skyrim
Hey, a few weeks ago when I used to visit this wikia more often I remember there was a page that listed many subtypes for each class (Warrior, Thief, Mage). For example they said you can play as a soldier type of warrior with a shield and sword or as a blademaster where you can dual-wield. I've been trying to search for the page again but can't find it anywhere, I think it may have been deleted for some reason, if you know what I'm talking about can you send me a link? Thanks. DanMan7308 (talk) 09:13, December 12, 2012 (UTC) DanMan7308
 * I'll see if i can find the page later today. 08:41, December 13, 2012 (UTC)

Hey man
Chill out dude. Yeah I maybe should have left a reason on the comments - but basically the remade pages needed to done sooner or later. For example Nordic War Axe appears in both Bloodmoon and Dragonborn, so when someone get around to creating the weapon for Bloodmoon it would have been a problem.

Same for 3 Stahlrim weapons. 3 weapons of the exact same name exist in Bloodmoon, so a disambig is needed.

Jimeee (talk) 13:21, December 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ok, but when i'm doing these kinda maintenance jobs, the last thing on my mind is who created the page. To me it doesn't matter who created it as the disambig end result is the same. I can see your point with the books article you created and typed out the other day, but weapons articles are tiny usually.


 * I really wouldn't mind if you or anyone else did the same thing with pages I created. Often, newly created pages are just basic info, so it's not like someone is deleting a great deal of work. Recently I redirected a bunch of creature pages I created to the main creature article - those pages are now gone - but it's no big deal. :)


 * Jimeee (talk) 13:36, December 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ok cool. You might be stuck with the necklace if she wont give you the quest!
 * About the Ramshackle guy. I heard you cant wait there or he won't spawn. You gotta keep further away from the shack and then enter the shack area after 12 and only then he will spawn.
 * Jimeee (talk) 13:48, December 13, 2012 (UTC)

Staffs
Ok thanks. I'll update

Jimeee (talk) 12:45, December 15, 2012 (UTC)

Dunmer Camp
I checked and its certainly ther but hidden. Its very close the the tomb. Fast travel to the tomb - Walk forward over the cracked earth until it is cracked no longer. Turn left 90 degrees and walk forward - there it is in a ravine. Rieklings are near. Jimeee (talk) 00:51, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

RE: Veetor
Take a look at this. As of the time Veetor checks unused images every other Saturday, that image was not being used. While Veetor can check Special:UnusedFiles for images that Wikia deems to be "unused," I'm afraid it's not a mind-reader. It can't know when someone has removed a perfectly useful picture from a page, or when someone has uploaded images during the day on a Saturday and hopes to use them on Sunday morning. The system is not perfect, but I think you'll agree it is far better than if we had to do all of this manually. 11:33, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

Confessions of a Skooma Eater
This book name is wrong - it was called this in morrowind, but in dragonborn its called "Confessions of a Dunmer Skooma Eater". I think someone should make a new page for the book, even if its just the title that is different.

94.172.191.207 15:52, December 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * We are aware of this, but its the same book, so there is no need for a new page. The change it title can, instead, be mentioned under a section "Trivia" on the current page. 15:55, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

Float down...
Haha no -  people have updated the main page - Weapons (Dragonborn) - so all the ID's are there now. I'm copying them over to pages when I edit them.

Same with the armor main page too.

Jimeee (talk) 14:03, December 18, 2012 (UTC)

Online Pages
Oops. Yeah, thats a bad habit of mine. I tend to be wary of doing that. Largely because with that and the NewMMO one, it starts to get to the point where the wiki coding thinks that its "complex" (see the book pages?) and then you have to use source code. Whilst I know source code pretty well, its annoying to check preview every time i want to see if I have formatted correctly ;) (Okay - if I'm honest - I'm just not used to the code for it - all those game ones werent around when I first started) Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 20:30, December 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * Okay - here's a question for you now. Stonefalls. It exists in Arena, its a historical town (i.e. there are references to it outside just being a visitable location), and it is a region in the Online game. Should it be split up? and if so - how? If it is - I would suggest having the online one separate, and the rest as one page (i.e. Online is a subpage, kinda?) Anyways - a second opinion would be appreciated. Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 20:39, December 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * But there is a problem with that. I havent added the info into the page yet (ive been busy), but there is also a more lore-ish element to Stonefalls as well. It was where the Dunmer and Nords defeated Ada'Soom. That part would belong in neither the Arena nor the Online page. That would only belong on a non-disambiged version of a Stonefalls page, wouldn't it? Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 21:30, December 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay. Did as you requested. Also - I see what you mean now. Sorry, thought you meant in the Appearances section! My bad! Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 21:54, December 18, 2012 (UTC)

IRC?
Are you available?

Jimeee (talk) 10:30, December 19, 2012 (UTC)

Block
Hi there. Well, I just wanted to ask one thing. I noticed that I was blocked along with that guy just because wiki detected that he's using the same IP adress as me. Um...I don't know this guy, I just contibuting this wiki once-twice per day, mostly - filling Morrowind stubs pages...and now I cant, sometimes wiki is blocking some of my changes, and sometimes not...can you fix this somehow? =\ Wharrgarbl (talk) 11:14, December 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I saw that too. Plus, when I clicked "Scribe" button wiki asked me to Log In, even if I was already online  O_o . I think Jimeee fixed this and now it works properly. But when I tried to send this message - wiki stopped me again and said that I'm blocked :)...this day just become interesting Wharrgarbl (talk) 11:35, December 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * I just logged out and tried to log In. Well, I forgot my password and when I tried to "remind" it, the wiki says, guess what? :) . "You can't request password because you was blocked". Well, I checked my e-mail anyway and found a temporary password, so I logged in again. It still keeps me blocked sometimes. And that's strange, it seems that I'm not fully blocked, just...sometimes... . Btw, it's a really funny joke, when it says "You was blocked, please contact administration" and then blocks me if I try to do so :) . Don't know what to do, really. Wharrgarbl (talk) 11:46, December 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * You know, it seems that your black magic works. Now it stopped blocking me... I just hope it won't return any time soon. Thanks for your help =) Wharrgarbl (talk) 12:05, December 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, I don't know where to find my Block ID, but my IP is 37.113.190.142 Wharrgarbl (talk) 12:14, December 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't know what happened and was it a result of your actions or wiki fixed itself, but there is no more "block" problem so far, so it seems it was solved, at least for now. Thanks for your attention again :) Wharrgarbl (talk) 11:16, December 20, 2012 (UTC)

IP problem
So, i'm constantly being blocked and unblocked for no reason, it says something about this guy called Rockstrip24 or something, would you please fix this? thanks. Introduce a bit of Anarchy (talk) 11:57, December 19, 2012 (UTC)

You're not alone, man...you're not alone... :) Wharrgarbl (talk) 12:03, December 19, 2012 (UTC)

I'm assuming it's some kind of glitch, hopefully they get it fixed, annoying as hell making a huge edit and then getting a blocked notification. Introduce a bit of Anarchy (talk) 12:06, December 19, 2012 (UTC)

Here ya go, Kenny: 178.61.17.2

This is my IP. Introduce a bit of Anarchy (talk) 12:08, December 19, 2012 (UTC)

I'm not being blocked anymore, so can't get the Block code thing, i'll keep refreshing on blogs to see if I can get it. Introduce a bit of Anarchy (talk) 12:10, December 19, 2012 (UTC)

The problem is no longer a issue, thanks for your help, Kenny :D. Introduce a bit of Anarchy (talk) 11:26, December 20, 2012 (UTC)

Camps
I think that supposed to happen as if they win the war then there is no need for them. The enemy camps will always remain though. Jimeee (talk) 15:30, December 20, 2012 (UTC)

Quest ID's
Hey, I saw that on Duel of Honor you put a field for the ID, but no such field exists in the MorrowindQuests template (at least, it's not displayed). In fact, I'm not even sure if it's in any Quests template (e.g. Template:SkyrimQuests and Template:OblivionQuests) or if they're even needed. I've been meaning to ask someone this for a while, so should it be displayed? Kroq-gar78 (talk) 22:26, December 25, 2012 (UTC)

Hide
Hi, I created a page that was at the top of the wanted pages list, which was Hide. You removed it because you said there is no item named hide and all animal hides have their own pages, which I do not disagree with. I found it weird that the page was needed, but it was needed. If it is simply not needed, could you please have it removed from the wanted pages list? Thank you. FoolsBloodArcher 20:25, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * I will. I do know about a spell called Hide, maybe people link to Hide because they meant the spell. I will look into it further. 20:29, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * I've looked it up and all 10 pages link to Hide because they mean the Hide spell in Morrowind. Those 10 characters can use that spell. I hope i explained it clearly to you and hope you understand the situation. 20:35, December 30, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Creation Kit
You may have to expand the column next to the Editor ID to reveal the Base ID column. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  20:56, December 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * Glad you found it! I don't know why they hide the Base ID. You can get the Ref ID in-game. The CK shows just the Base ID as far as I know. So, in order to get the Ref ID of a character or creature you have to use the console, and have the character or creature selected in order to view their Ref ID. I've never found any other way of obtaining it other than that. Hope that helps. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  21:28, December 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * Not everything will have an AI package, so it is normal. The Default package that is selected from the drop down list for Bran is probably what is used for his AI settings (DefaultMasterPackageList). — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  21:55, December 30, 2012 (UTC)

User check
Hello. Could you check on the User:Zelron please. Alot of their edits seem really strange, as if they are butchering the wiki. I'm not sure if what is being removed should be kept.

Cheers Lee VEGETA  talk 21:51, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * I will look into it. 09:15, December 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you Lee VEGETA  talk 11:16, December 31, 2012 (UTC)

Prelate Celegriath
Hey, I noticed you added back the race and game into the lead. I remember one of the other admins (either Jimee, Tomb, or Timeoin) telling someone on their talk page that character pages shouldn't have the game name in the lead, as in "Someguy is a something in Dawnguard". That's why I merged it with the second sentence - to make a decent lead without the game in it. The game goes into "Appearances", and that's where it already was, so I removed it from the lead. Kroq-gar78 (talk) 21:24, January 2, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah, this is correct. Character pages that have "X is a character in game Y." is temporary and should be changed to a better format. Jimeee (talk) 22:55, January 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * Uhm did you forgot to tell the other admins Jimeee? Maybe it'll be better if i would know something about your opinion... 08:59, January 3, 2013 (UTC)

Vandalism
Hi there. Just wanted to report one guy deleting relevant info about easter eggs as "speculation", demanding some kind of "official" proof and refusing to stop his activity. I warned him but he didn't listen, so I'm asking you, as administrator, to decide who is wrong and stop this stupid war of undo. This guy: User:GarouxBloodline - and the article he's raping: Drarayne Thelas. Thx for your attention Wharrgarbl (talk) 22:54, January 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * Since this user is making a complete ass of himself by using ad hominem against my person without cause, I would like to address a few points that they are purposefully ignoring:


 * The information I removed was either speculation or irrelevant towards the article-page in question. Please read the talk-page for a further clarification.


 * The original poster of that information reverted my changes without giving a reason or edit summary, even though I removed that information for a good reason.


 * She then provided to continuously edit-war, even though I had started up a discussion. She never bothered to see the discussion properly through, just going straight to edit-warring further.


 * Wharrgarbl then decides he's self-entitled enough to jump into this while insulting both of us, and acting like he can play mod, as seen by his supposed threat on my talk-page.

I was not edit waring with you i removed the specualtiuon that they were some how related, i just added that both quests are very simualar in how they start (from fighters guild) and what their about (rats). I then fixed it but you felt that it was specultion so you undo it calling it specutlion, adn calling me a vandel when i was trying to point out that they both have quests involving rats. I wasnt trying to edit war with you DeirdreKent101 (talk) 23:10, January 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * Just figured I'd clear a few matters up. GarouxBloodline


 * This had nothing to do with you, and he will see all of this for himself when he looks at the talk-page. I was merely pointing out the flaws in Wharrgarble's personal attacks against me. GarouxBloodline
 * Also, I never called you a vandal. Please stop making stuff up. GarouxBloodline

Deidre - stop it, It won't help. Let administrator decide and leave this guy alone.
 * To Kennyanddenny - this guy calling me an "ass", he threatens me and this poor girl at our talk pages. He deleting relevant info. Isn't it enough for you? Wharrgarbl (talk) 23:21, January 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * I didn't call you an ass. That would have been an insult. I stated that you were making as ass of yourself, which is an observation. Expletives are not against policy on mature wikis, anyways. So stop using strawman arguments to de-bunk my legitimate points. It's proving a lot about your nature ontop of your other interactions with us. GarouxBloodline
 * First of all, i protected the page Drarayne Thelas until i've seen every argument and whats going on. I've been away for two days, so sorry for the slow respond. Until i can sort this out, please people, try to avoid getting into any more discussions! 12:33, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * Ok. Well i've read everything: I agree with Timeoin. I guess it could be considered an easter egg, but then it would only needed to be posted on the Oblivion page. I see you already made concensus, so i will leave it be. But i want to say several things:

"As for you, funny man, you was warned - stay away from my page and stop chasing that girl. And i'm asking you gently, here, making sure you will read it."

- Wharrgarbl

This is not how we should treat eachother. I've read everything and nobody's chasing anything. Please people, act like grown ups. Please keep discussions professional, and don't forget: consider edits to be of good faith. That'll make all the difference in the world.

"Administrators are not the law around Wikia. Staff are only. Mods/Administrators/Bureaucrats are merely users who have earned a few extra editing tools."

- GarouxBloodline

As much as this is true, admins are more than just users with extra editing rights. These are people who represent our community and have the job to resolve disputes like this. And to resolve this, their voice carries weight. Everyone's voice carries weight off course, but an admin can give a final saying to end such disputes.

"How can it be speculation when its in BOTH games Both women have the same last name BOTH womens quest involve rats ''And both quests are from the fighrters guild"

- DeirdreKent101

That two quests look like eachother doesn't automaticly mean they are related or they are an Easter Egg. Please keep that in mind.

Saying this, i hope the whole dispute is over and you'll treat eachother with more dignity next time. Some of the "arguments" weren't needed. Try to keep it civil next time. One general tip, don't just keep reverting edits, as this is not permitted (Edit-war). Instead, start a discussion with the other users involved and try to discuss the matter while being civil. 13:44, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

Opener
It may be in some templates, but ideally it needs to be removed so a custom opener can be crafted. That's the hard part. I have been doing this for Dragonborn and Dawnguard characters when I see it.

Jimeee (talk) 15:49, January 4, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I told the guy who made them they should be placed in the main temple location page. Jimeee (talk) 16:12, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Images
Hi Kenny, I did look at that page not long ago thinking it needed improved images. But I'm not sure how to do it as it probably looks best if the character is standing in the same position on all photos. Is there a consol command that can bring all clothing "out" and on the character?

EbonySkyrim (talk) 12:29, January 5, 2013 (UTC)


 * :) Hey, that's what I mean, how to get the clothes available for me to put on the character without having to run through all of Skyrim to get them while playing. I thought maybe there was a console command for that. I'll look around and see if I can figure it out..
 * EbonySkyrim (talk) 12:39, January 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks.... :)
 * EbonySkyrim (talk) 12:43, January 5, 2013 (UTC)

Problem with Wiki mechanics
Greetings & happy new year - We are having a problem. Some pages won't switch to source mode when we are trying to edit them. We can't make certain changes to them as a result. Other pages switch to source mode without a hitch. We can't tell why. (That may have been why the page on Natch Pinder didn't come out quite right.)DarthOrc (talk) 21:12, January 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * Happy new year to you guys too. Well i saw what happened, but i don't know why you can't switch to source mode. Never heard of that problem before. Its really weird. I have heard/encountered myself that some really large pages must be editted in source mode, but i never heard of someone who couldn't swith to source mode. 21:16, January 5, 2013 (UTC)

Clothing images and clay deposit
Hi Kenny, I took a Claydeposit image for you File:Clay Deposit.png and I have also tried to take new images for the clothing. I of course went in the order on the console command page so they are not in order on that page. Clothing (Skyrim)/Gallery. I took 4 so far as I wanted you to have a look at them before I continue... EbonySkyrim (talk) 18:16, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * I've done some more but will continue another day. Got a bit confused after doing so many images, didn't want to mix them up, LOL... I started from the top of the page now but there is one clothing so far I can't get as the number doesn't excist it says. You can see which one, Blacksmit's Apron with number CFF37, it doesn't come up. I wonder if someone can look in the construction set/kit if it's there? EbonySkyrim (talk) 20:25, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks Kenny, I had just done the last one I had, it was the only one left :) Now the page is complete. Oh and thanks, glad you like my Oblivion pics. I actually enjoy playing that game too now that I've got it.


 * EbonySkyrim (talk) 21:15, January 7, 2013 (UTC)

Vandal
Hello! Sorry about the vandal report. The page the user vandalised was deleted by TombRaiser before the vandal report was seen. So I'm gussing that when a page is deleted, so do all the edits that were associated with that page. The edit was made to the page Chairs before it was deleted. 2.100.116.202 18:52, January 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * All deleted pages are recorded on Deleted Contributions, so that edit is still logged, just not on the contribution page. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  18:56, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * I just read it, looked into the history of the deleted page. I wanted to say the same thing, but i got an edit conflict ;) Thank you, 2.100.116.202, for reporting this! 18:59, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem Kenny, and cheers Tomb for that link, I wasn't aware that page even existed. Cheers. 2.100.116.202 19:12, January 6, 2013 (UTC)