Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-85.74.137.231-20130605091958/@comment-8248675-20130814190929

Nikss wrote: Arguing whether Akatosh is Lorkhan is Talos is Sithis is pointless. Remember the aim of the thread.

But I'll join in the fray anyways.

How can Lorkhan be Sithis?

I'm genuinely questioning this, because in the beginning of the universe, Anu and Padomay were there, and Lorkhan was born from Sithis to destroy the unchanging concepts of the Aubris. So the depiction of Lorkhan as Sithis would be reasonable, but SITHIS as Lorkhan? It's like your father named after you, instead of the other way round.

All the gods died, but their existence or possession of power hasn't left them yet.

Wait, hold up one second,

If Akatosh = Lorkhan,

Lorkhan = Talos, and

Lorkhan = Sithis,

Akatosh = Aedra

THen SIthis is Aerdic, or Anuic.

Hence, some of the theories are flawed, or wrong, or the aforementioned characters aren' the exact manifestations of each other.

Back to point.

The Gods held a meeting in one of the Towers and began the discussion of the fate of the world in static time. To complete the world, they would have to sacrifice themselves, and this is why Lorkhan was considered a trickster, for making the Aedra accept this, why Magnus left, Why the Daedra are still free and powerful, while the gods are constrained by the bonds of mortality.

Killing an immortal is impossible, atleast in the long run. When Lorkhan was killed, he still survived through his heart, through his creation, Nirn, and through humanity. Even after the Heart was destroyed his power passed to the ash stones, or whatever they were called.

Hence a god cannot be destroyed, no more than energy turned to nothingness, or obliterated

{I doubt it was totally ''D-E-S-T-R-O-Y-E-D.. ''since Lorkhan is neither Aedra or Daedra, he may have had some Daedric (but not all) characteristics. So Lorkhan was torn asunder, his body and consiousness in the void, his heart in Nirn. When Nerevarine "destroyed" the heart, he may have actually released the mortal constraints on the Heart, and banished it to the void, which makes it ripe for a second coming. A bit like taking a daedra's heart to stop its reformation.}

Well, all my points are a bit jumbled now, I had a thought to prove that the gods are dead, but exist, but now I'm mired in twisty thoughts. Anyways, consider all this. Sithis is neither Akatosh nor Lorkhan! He's their father if you will.

Sithis=Padomay

Padomay and Anu were nither Aedra nor Daedra

There was an interplay between them, instigated by the chaotic Padomay. The way I understood it, it was a fight, that spilled their blood. As the blood of Anu and Padomay mixed, Aedra apeard. Out of the blood of Padomay came out only Daedra. That is why Aedra are capable of peace and chaos, while most Daedra are capable only of chaos.

Out of the rest of Anu, came out Autherius and a place for Aedra to live. Padomay then proceeded in creating the Void and that is where Oblivion realms of Daedra reside. It is not clear if Padomay used himself up like Anu to create Void, but he must still exist somehow if Night Mother managed to have five children from him. However, I guess he refused to pay alimony money, so she ceded custody to him, lol.

In anycase, it was later that Lorkhan talked his brothers and sisters into creating Mondus. After they already created it, they appearantly didn't like it, so they all ganged up on their poor brother Lorkhan and tore his heart out. I guess that was their way of saying that was a bad idea! Or that was not fun, let's not do it again! So there, since Aedra are creations of Anu's and Padomay's blood, they would be brothers and sisters. Daedra are more like their cousins, created by the blood of only Padomay/Sithis. Does that make sense, I know lore can get confusing and contradictory.