Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-26213507-20150715194939/@comment-26356342-20150721221345

First, let me say it's a breath of fresh air to see someone competent enough to discuss the Stormcloak side.

I would like to point out a few things here tho; with all due respect.

You start by saying theres no difference between the two forces,both being even and that it just comes down to choosing Red or Blue. While I disagree here I'll get into that later. You then jump to say you chose the Stormcloaks because you didnt agree with the Imperial Jarls. There's a bit of continuity issue here, as you then go on to say one side being "better" than the other.

I'd like to point out, of the 2 armies, even tho IN SKYRIM they are pretty even, Skyrim holds the ENTIRE Stormcloak force, while only holding a SINGLE legion of the Empire. As for your reasons to not agree with Imperial Jarls, first I'll say you should (if you havnt yet) read my previous posts on the Imperial and Stormcloak Jarls, second, if you're not looking out for Security and Trade,(especially during times of War) you're screwed from the start. The Empire was fighting the Thalmor on its own borders, it couldnt spare the men to go and help with bandits in a hold. Trade and supply lines can make or break and entire army, so trade has to flow. If you're not putting priority to essentials, where should that priority go?

While I agree Ulfric, had he played his cards right COULD have gained a larger army then Tullius, he doesnt, and even if he had, there's still the rest of the Imperial Legions to contend with. Ulfric will mention he couldnt fight the Empire in a full scale invasion.

Heck, Ulfric could have bent the knee to the Dragonborn like the Nords of old did with Tibor Septim. Swearing allegiance to The Dragonborn rather than the Empire. Stopped fighting the Empire, and Fight the Thalmor, the Empire retreats Skyrim, everybody wins.

The resources Skyrim has is minimal, it's a mountainous place covered in ice, with few holds able to hold Farms. It couldn't be self reliant for very long, and if the Empire felt bitter after losing troops to Skyrim in its Civil War they could tax the hell out of import goods to Skyrim to make up its loses. They would be left with either barely enough food to last, or barely enough gold to last.

Whoa whoa and whoa, The Emperor did not sell away Hammerfell or leave them to fend for themselves. While Hammerfell feels slighted because of the Treaty, The Emperor did leave Elite shock troops behind to assist, those troops ultimately helped them to win against the Thalmor and get the second Treaty of Stros m'kai signed. Hammerfell likes to forget the Empire left troops there, and took on the Elite troops of the Thalmor in Cyrodiil, giving them the breathing room they needed to win. As I've said before, If Ulfric took those trebuchets to the Thalmor Embassy and stopped fighting the Empire he could have his Independance in a fortnight, without needing to piss off the Empire. With the Empire out of Skyrim, all the Thalmor need to do is press their army onto a weakened Cyrodiil, and then suddenly you have an Army of Elves and Cat-men at your doorstep. having Skyrim be apart of the Empire means Trade routes are clear, no need to overtax anyone, plenty of Steel to go around, more ground for the Thalmor to have to cover, and more forces altogether.