Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-13417807-20130726023954/@comment-68.115.73.25-20130816024823

Pink Slim wrote: 68.115.73.25 wrote: Some facets of this debate I'd like to address:

1) Aren't the Snow Elves were half in the right; if you suddenly had a violent, quick to anger, and self-idolising rat infestation in your house, would you want them to breed you out of your home?

2) That quote of Ayrenn's is suspiciously like Warhammer's Eldar... sorry to be a bit off topic, but isn't that just a superiority complex manifesting itself right there?

3) Just because a race, or should I say Culture, is more, "Intelligent," than some others does not make the race more intelligent, it is only something that defines the race's current standing; would you say that the 4th Era Falmer are very intelligent? No, not really, compared to what they once were. Take a Breton, Imperial, Khajiit, Nord, Altmer, Bosmer, Dunmer, Orc, and Argonian child, (maybe even a Dwemer kid if you can drag them out of Aetherius,) and isolate all of them from everything since their birth, with the staff wearing large, bulky, and voice/appearance disguising gear; keeping them as isolated as possible, give them mostly the same meals, give them all a single way to pass their downtime, train them all with the same lessons, alone, (that is, without other identifiable races present, but staff included,) in education, martial prowress, and magicka. When all of them have been raised to an age just past young childhood, where they all are abled beings, and test what they are able to accomplish. What happens then, I ask you? Here's a quote for you: "I now know, that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant. It is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." 1. Not if they showed absolutely no signs of agression. Saarthal was a peaceful settlement that left Atmora because of wars, they didn't want to come to a new land just for another.

2. don't knowabout it being a WH refrance, but it sure does sound like a superiority complex to me.

3. gotta love that mewtwo. 1) Be as it might, what do you do when you have a termite infestation? Or rabbit infestation? They might be cute, but they're still a pest. They aren't agressive, however they cause harm with their prescense, don't they? Like a sort of Cthulhuoid entity, except they aren't smart, they're just hazardous to be around, period.

2) The idea that Elves must be the guiders of Man, therefore Enlightening them? While it's become typical for creators of any series' lore to have a race that is, "Wiser," than humans guide them down the correct path, having a quaesi-motherly/superiority complex that seems to manifest itself whenever possible, (Forerunners from halo, Elves from a metric button of different games, the Aldenaata series, etc., to name a few,) it still comes as a sort of surprise that nobody has implimented the idea that the elves glory days have come and go, and now they're just trying to survive by being nice to other races. WH40K tried it, but they are still superior in their minds, so ultimately a failure. Where ARE races portrayed as Elven shown as Humble, Knowledgable beings that actually have TACT?

3) Also, ingame, that pool of magicka that HE start out with comes from being an altmer in a world of altmer, pure isolation doesn't guarantee anything. Oh, also Redguard kids, almost forgot about them.