Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-76.97.80.106-20130811163656/@comment-108.234.243.143-20140816164444

67.215.210.73 wrote: Listen to you all, acting like theres dozens of reasons to side with either one, yet we can all agree on one thing, we all despise the Thalmor and their high elf attitude. No matter if you stated reasons that support the Stormcloaks or Legion, the truth in my eyes is that the only way the Thalmor will fall is with a united Empire, which means siding with the Legion. Hammerfell, Skyrim, and Cyrodill all have something in common, the Thalmor have wronged or struck against them. Correct me if im wrong, but in the quest "In my Time of Need" did the Alikir state that "The resistance against the Dominion is alive in Hammerfell" which means they are fighting furiously to expell the Thalmor from Hammerfell and i don't think its simply because of the Thalmors high opinion of themselves, im sure they committed plenty of crimes against the people of Hammerfell, and Im sure they would be a good ally against them.

Skyrim, we already know enough. Kidnapping and tourturing suspected talos worshippers, as well as the occurance at the College of Winterhold (Ancano and the Eye), are just a few reasons why the Thalmor have no friends in Skyrim.

As for Cyrodill, I suppose all we can do is speculate at this time, though from what we know, the Imperial City was badly damaged, and im sure that theres alot of people with a large hatred for the Thalmor, especially if the statue of the Dragon was destroyed.

Well why should this matter? Well you forget, so long as the civil war rages, both sides are weakend, and this presents a opprotunity to expand into more land for the Thalmor, with a Stormcloak victory, the Empire would be even weakend more, giving the same result for the Thalmor. Though a reunified Skyrim under the Empire, could be what the Empire needs to secure victory.

Many of you have stated facts that are supportive of this. So let it be stated again, while the Stormcloaks fight for a noble cause, to keep their culture and tradition alive, its regetably that for now, those have to be sacrificed in order for there to be peace, thousands of nords had sacrificed their lives in the Great War, not in vain, but to keep Skyrim out of the hands of the Thalmor, when the Nords realize this they will understand that Ulfric was only making the situation worse. So even though many of us like Ulfric, for many nords hes a hero standing up for them, Ulfric needs to die in order to secure a future for the Empire. Hes a bold leader, but his views on other races will only makes skyrim tear itself inside out.

Finally, if the Empire stays unitied, it will prove to be something to rally behind when the Thalmor have made one too many enemies. The nords, Redguards, Imperials, and even some of you stated the Wood Elfs and Khajitt. There may even be more races to join the fight, as the Thalmor will never change their attitude, and continue to enforce their views on other races.

If you disagree with me, feel free to reply to this. I completely agree. Ive been on the fence about this for a long time. Not sure which side to take but Im pretty convinced now. Clearly the Thalmor are not anyones friends and should be dealt with, Skyrim will never prosper if we are killing each other. Hell, we're practicly inviting the Thalmor to just walk in and take over. It seems the best thing for everyone if the rebellion is put to rest and the empire can grow. The people of Skyrim will most likely be mad for a couple years but once the empire has grown as strong as it used to be then the Thalmor can be stopped for good.

I'm not going to enjoy killing Ulfric but the Stormcloaks are truely making things worse. And if the Stormcloaks did take over and Skyrim did become indipendent the entire province would simply collapse. Skyrim is extremely diverse and if Ulfric and his followers (Who are not exactly loving the other races) won and took over they would probably have an extremly ironic uprising of their own.