Board Thread:Off Topic/@comment-174.44.92.186-20140909202751/@comment-5583506-20140913145336

174.44.92.186 wrote: (I actually put them like that to reply to the number of paragraphs)

1. Okay.

2.

b. There are only 5 Istari though....

a. The Nerevarine defeated them because they were disconnected from the Heart of Lorkhan. Though there are more Valar so I guess they would win. "whom even a brainless Dovahkiin would stomp" A Daedric Prince would slaughter Dovahkiin.....

3. Numidium already defeated an army of elves before, The Aldmeri Dominion.

4. lulz, he didn't lose to Umaril. He beat him and then was captured by the other Ayleid kings. And to quote from Lawrence Schick, a loremaster on Reddit:

"Pelinal takes Sauron in seven rounds. He gets killed, mind you, but he wins nonetheless. And takes the Ring for good measure."

5.  The Underking is not mortal. He's undead. And he is also extremely powerful if he can take down something that forced Alinor to surrender in less than an hour and is said to have planet and timelines revolve around it. Hell, a dragonbreak occurs everytime it's activated. "The Heart of One" is the Heart of Lorkhan, a very powerful god (At least before Mundus) and the first born of Sithis. In Daggerfall, there was a Dragonbreak, so that can't really be used as evidence. And Numidium crushed the Agent of Daggerfall in one of the endings.

6. Herma Mora is a Daedric Prince so he isn't in this. Just one on one with Saruman and Miraak. But Miraak has gained knowledge from Herma, so this will be a good battle.

7. Odahviing will just ram his tummy lol 2. May only be 5 of them, but that's all it takes to beat the Psijic into a bloody pulp.

3. And he still got his ass kicked twice by mortal men?

4. Actually, if you think about it, he did. Umaril may have died but his soul fled into Oblivion. It was only until later when the Hero of Kvatch finished what Pelinal couldn't. Sauron still wins though (being a maiar and all). I don't trust anything written on a site like Reddit.

5. The Underking is undead this is true. But before he was Zurin Arctus, a mortal man.

6. Yeah, but Hermaeus still kills Miraak at the end. All Saruman has to do is to sit in Orthanc and watch it happen.

7. A dragon that bows before a Man or Mer and allowed itself to be ridden like a tamed beast kills Smaug? A dragon who shows nothing but the utmost contempt and hatred for mankind? Nah, that will never happen. Alduin could probably kill Smaug, but Odahviing wouldn't stand a chance.