Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-13417807-20130726204600/@comment-9062114-20130913154305

Lord Hadron wrote: @Zipper Train 85

That's because Ulfric is a good speaker. He can manipulate people and can persuade them of things that aren't entirely true. The cause that he speaks of, Skyrim's freedom and independence, is a good cause, but it's not a perfect vision. But simply uses this constantly brings up this vision and uses the White-Gold Concordat to enforce his point. But this vision that he speaks of isn't the sole reason why he "fights" for Skyrim.

Have you spoken to Jarl Elisif's court after completing the Civil War quest on the Stormcloak side. They will talk about the fact that, since Stormcloak troops have settled in all the holds, the "moot" will be forced to elect Ulfric as High King. The other Jarls have no other choice. Even when Ulfric states when he gives his speech after killing General Tullius, he states "...And it is for these reasons, that i cannot accept the mantle of High King. Not until the moot declares it". He simply displays this decieving sincerity so that he doesn't appear too eager to become High King, and this moot presents no alternative other than to elect Ulfric, since him and his army have already conquered all Skyrim. Why would the Moot not be able to elect anyone else again? If that was truly the case Ulfric didn't even need to say that? Falk Firebeard could've told that to anyone, and he doesn't sem to be arrested for it, so it makes no sense.