Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-151.225.142.234-20140517150540/@comment-86.27.136.79-20150125191952

Now your just ignoring the point the hole story is from a lore perspective not on whether you've actually been through bleaks falls barrow or not (in the vanilla game you can easily skip it and not know your the dragon born or have any shouts) and as stated what about low level characters. sure your ebony, dragon bone or glass amour my stop it but what about actual thieves guild armour can that stop it? yeah they could have made a completely different storyline for high level characters (but come on do you have any idea how complicated, expensive, larger, and unnecessary that is). Also the skeleton key does as it states in game allow him to unlock both physical and non-physical locks allowing him to unlock nocturnals powers with her having no power over that "OOo but I have fifteen other daedric princess with me" again what about low level characters they may not have completed any daedric quests even a high level character may not have completed a daedric quest (call it unlikely or what ever but a lot of people hadv't)

Gallus ran into the ambush because he's... a thief let me explain, say what you want about mercer but by lore he's a bloody good swords man ("OOo but I found him easy to kill" AGAIN by lore he's a good swords man) "so why did he have no back up" he did Karliah was his back up she was just late "but why didn't he have more back up" maybe because he wanted to keep nightingale issues with the nightingales or because their thieves and no one knows that mercers a good swords man because if they did he would all ready be kicked out of the thieves guild for using violence and you know 2 against 1 are odds "but I'ave killed 50 drougr at once" well good for you your mythical character killed 50 mythical monsters, now how about you leave the house and pick a fight with 2 people and tell me how it goes (reasonable people your 20 years old fight to 20 year olds you do karate go fight Jackie Chan and Bruce Lee)

oh and Karliah did say she shot you to save you because she didn't know if you could survive ("OOo but I have dragon bone its obvious I could surv..." SHUT UP by lore you are wearing thieves guild armour, and you actually are if you properly roll-playing the game) and she didn't want to kill mercer because her name would still not be clear (the evidence would not quite add up if mercer was dead) "OOo but she's selfish for that reason she still should have shot mercer" if she was selfish she wouldn't have used the arrow on you in the first place."

Ether way this is not important, just because Gallus died this does not mean your better than him or more importantly a better guild leader because that's what the question is not who would win in a fight in fact the question isn't whose better the "dragonborn or Gallus" its if Gallus is a good leader or not and we have to take the dragonborn out of the equation because "he is the player".Now just because Gallus = Rooster your saying he might be a actually be a bad leader. Now lets think about what a rooster is. "the male of domestic fowl" with roosters being known as leaders of hen (one way or another) hen = chicken. therefore Gallus was the leader of the chickens but why are they called chickens maybe because their main rule is that they don't fight e.g. "Gallus leader of people who don't fight" therefore Gallus being Latin for rooster means Gallus is leader of the thieves. a bit far-fetched but it works and seeing as all other evidence says he was a good leader I do believe Gallus was a good leader.