Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-71.226.242.68-20131113201112/@comment-25343239-20150305174953

-AR- wrote:

TiberCaesarAndRepublicOfTamriel wrote: Akatosh could kill them. He's the God of Time. He kicked Dagon's behind no problem. Wasn't even a fight. He would dominate the entire Daedric pantheon. Akatosh did not kill Dagon, as Dagon cannot be killed. He banished him to Oblivion. If Vivec with CHIM, which alters the very nature of the Dream, cannot kill a Daedric Prince, a Daedric Prince cannot be killed. That said, it is beyond the ability of the Aedra to act on their own: the very fact that they are bound to Mundus limits their ability to apply their power of their own accord. They do not have self-agency: it was not so much Akatosh that defeated Mehrunes Dagon, it was Martin Septim channeling Akatosh's power. The Aedra can act on their own, they just choose not too. They "gave too much of themselves"...poppycock. I don't believe it. The lore will evolve as time goes on and will eventually have to explain why the Aedra interfere in the mortal world on a daily basis.

You know they do, you played the games. They offer their blessings to their followers and cure them of diseases, they can be summoned to defeat evil Daedra but not to commit evil acts on behalf of the Daedra, they answer mortal's prayers more indirectly because they're not demonic mischief makers seeking petty glory and insignificant control over moral lives.

CHIM and the great dreamer, that's all based on Vivec's interperation of his godhood and our understanding of how Talos managed to achieve divinity. Divinity is a complicated subject and the idea of a "great dreamer" might just be a poetic way to describe the big bang, or the start and end of the universe. The ignorant and backward denizens of Skyrim  have had steam power for thousands of years, buried right under their noses! They study industrial machinery and explore the dwemer caves yet still can't figure out how to throw down a simple railroad track. I don't believe anything that doesn't come straight from a Dwemer's mouth, and even Dwemer books are so old they could have been changed and adapted over time.

We all saw a small piece of Akatosh fly into the world at the behest of Martin Septim and crush Dagon, Dagon barely put up a fight. You're telling me Akatosh can't kill that fool? Pffft. I'll never believe it.