Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-72.74.78.209-20141019230536/@comment-17114085-20141120192809

71.248.190.66 wrote: Anyways, let's compare the factions.

Stormcloaks 1) want they're independence from a totalitarian dictatorship that's about to crumble. 2) have a skilled, valiant, noble, tactical genius as a leader. 3) are fighting for they're freedom of religion. 4) are criticized for being "racist" towards a group of annoying mutant cat drug dealers, ugly lizard people and emo Daedra worshipping goth elves who refuse to assimilate into they're culture. 5) respect the traditional culture, laws and customs of the land

The empire 1) it's a puppet state of the TES equivalent of nazi Germany. 2) the empower is an ignoramus 3) they hate they're own founder 4) they try to execute the Dragonborn without a trial dispute him being completely innocent. 5) unless they somehow be build the Numidium, there is no way that they can ever possibly defeat the AD. 6) they clearly lied about the Markarth incident. Stormcloaks:

1)The Empire isn't a dictatorship. It is a type of Parliamentary Monarchy, because of the Elder Council.

2) Ulfric isn't without flaws. He is undoubtedly at least a bit power-hungry. But I still believe his reasons for the Civil War are noble, he truly believes Skyrim needs a strong leader like himself to survive. Also I wouldn't call him a tactical genius.

3) Freedom of Religion, Political Freedom from the Empire and freedom from the Thalmor. They want to be able to live freely without fear of being kidnapped and tortured by the Thalmor and the Empire letting the Thalmor do that.

Empire:

1) It isn't a puppet state but it is under the Aldmeri Dominion's boot. They fear the Dominion and basically do anything the Elves want for fear of another war. The Empire is less their puppet and more of their b*tch.

2) Titus is a Brave, tactical genius, and a decent Emperor. His only mistake was signing the White-Gold Concordat.

3) They don't hate Tiber/Talos. They have disowned him, and now ban his worship because of the WGC.

4) That is a good point, that was BS.

5) That is impossible. But there are likely other ways they could win, but I can't think of one. If they get a really smart Emperor they might pull it off, but they are very weak from the Thalmor's meddling for the past 25 years.

6) Lied about what? Ulfric killing citizens that didn't aid the Stormcloaks? That is most likely a lie, since not one person in Markarth(despite it being an Imperial supporting town) or the Forsworn mention the alleged massacre. Which is really weird, you'd think they would at least mention it.