Board Thread:Consensus Track/@comment-1738746-20151021052251/@comment-1738746-20151021111219

As for the first citation I made, I point to Sajuuk who was the presenter of that idea who agreed with me that the suggestion made was different/off-topic to the one he was presenting. I agree that what is off or on topic can be very subjective, but in cases like this, the best person who can judge what suggestions are or aren't relevant to the original suggestion, is the presenter themselves (which is what happened in this case).

As for the aesthetic change, my apologies for not delving into it further as I did for the "major ideas" bit, I will change that now. To clarify, if you can't do a mock up of the change, bring it to the moot for discussion and someone else can pick up the task to do. Then that user can bring the mock up into the next moot, and everyone can vote on it. As quoted in one of the references, this is something that we were already doing pretty well in past moots. I can see as well someone was beginning to flesh out this idea in the moot summaries as the templates have separate sections for voting logs and discussion topics.

Admiral's position may be ambiguous in that reference, but you can also see a re-statement that they thought the vote was for the same thing I did in reference 8. You assume users just knew what they were voting for where in several different references I highlight confused users, and near the start of the moot log you can see where CCC calls for a vote on an idea not entirely finalised either with Atvel attempting to stop the vote but people just flood the votes in anyway (ref 10). I can guarantee you, because I've seen it happen at every single a moot, when users see those voting icons, they quickly make the decision there and send in the votes, despite being on the fence but choosing to support because from what they understood it was ok. That's an issue in itself which can be easily solved by just taking things calmly. I do believe in a past moot actually, there was a user who would test/tested out voting icons during the moot, and when doing so, some users just piled on with support thumbs because they thought a vote was going through.

No, respect comes from the user's comments being acknowledged as opposed to just seen. I understand the nature of chat very well, that comments will overlap, but many users' comments were ignored, and that was what I was addressing with that. One worded or not, it shouldn't be ignored, particularly if that word is "wait" or "hold on" :P (And especially if it's a comment pointing out it was discussed in a past moot lol)

Thank you :3 I thought if we should do this, we should do it right XD