Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-76.23.148.161-20140619050605/@comment-24999978-20140629140000

76.23.148.161 wrote: I cant believe you are bringing kirkbride into this. his work is entirely fanfiction and only gets certain mentions in game as a little easter egg reference. that doesnt mean if one thing gets an honorable mention it doesnt mean all is now fact.

aluin is first born of akatosh since it is said by multiple characters in game including parthunaax and aluin himself.

auriel is akatosh just two different names to call the same thing. such as lorkhan is to shor etc.

and convention was the sentencing of lorkhan. if the towers are the spokes of the wheel that support it then what would be the opposite.

can you come up with any evidence into how and why lorkhan wouldn't return? Except that is not exactly the case; canon is not your call. Both Bethesda and Zenimax are fans of MK's contribution to the lore, which are folloed by many. He does not seek Bethesda's rubber stamp of approval, nor does he need one, as it is up to the fans as to what they accept. There is little point in only following superficial lore, and rejecting exciting new aspects, for some dogmatic mislead idealism. MK has not made up much of the discussion, anyway, so I will go back to the original point.

Alduin being the firstborn of Akatosh is, likely, a reference to the oldest Aka shard. In the Fourth Era, of course, most people identify the Time God with Akatosh, and so he uses this naming. The odd notion that the two are the same was also held by those who believed that Alduin, too, was the same as Akatosh, before Skyrim, for the same reasons. You might want to take a look a the mythopoeic forces which act upon the Aedra, due to their catatonic state, but before I would further expound upon or explain anything of the matter, did you actually read the link? It has everything you need right there, I do not understand where you are confused.

In addition, yes, Lorkhan was sentenced at Convention. So what? The Towers are not the Spokes of the Wheel, that is the Aedra, though they do facilitate the role of 'upholding' Creation and preventing Mundus from dissolving into the primordial, mixed form of the Aurbis before Creation. The Daedra inhibit the space, or void, between the spokes. Besides, what do you mean 'Then what would be the opposite?' Do you mean the opposite of the Towers? There is not any.

Finally, that is not how it works. I am not sure if you have heard of the burden of proof, but it is not up to use to prove that he is not coming back, but for those claiming he is to do so. Betrand Russell's Teapot is a great example of this; can you prove that there is not a cosmic, magical teapot floating around in space? Does that now mean it exists, because you cannot disprove its existance? No, it does not, otherwise I could claim I am the King of a planet 5 billion light years away and you couldn't prove I wasn't.