Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-186.215.22.127-20130215011559/@comment-24355185-20140627162645

96.26.227.138 wrote: Stuhn wrote: Sevonis wrote: Tiber Septim, also called Talos or Hjalti, was born in Atmora and therefore is Nedic. By the way ,all human races are descended from Nedes. Allow me to explain.

1. Atmorans came to Tamriel (Mereth, as they called it, hence the Merethic Era) and reproduced and reproduced and reproduced.

2. Their many, many children moved to different areas. some slept with the mer races and became Bretons, some moved south and became the Imperials, and the ones that stayed in Skyrim became the Nords. Et cetera.

Note: The Redguards are actually from Yokuda, which is gone now. No. Nords =/= Nedes =/= Atmorans.

1. Nedes

The ancestors of men all lived in Atmora (except the Redguards). They slowly started to trickle back to mainland Tamriel over hundreds of years, becoming dispersed, and falling under rulership of the Elves, they were not a united or powerful people. They moved into modern day Highrock, mingled with the Aldmer living there and became the Bretons. They moved into modern day Cyrodiil, fell under rulership of the Ayleidoon and became the Cyro-Nedics, or the base of the Imperial race. These were the Nedes. They were primitive, lived in small, seperate communities and were not at all powerful.

2. Atmorans

The Atmorans are the ancestors of the Nords. They came as a group, under Ysgramor, and stayed united, conquering themselves a territory - Skyrim. They DIDN'T fall under Elven ruleship. They DIDN'T disperse and become seperate communities. They STAYED united. They OWNED a kingdom. They were powerful and prosperous.

In regard to the race of Hjalti, since Talos is 3 people and Tiber Septim is 2 I presume we're talking about Hjalti, he is:

A) A Nord, who was raised in Skyrim and did some training in Alcaire.

OR

B) A Breton who moved to Skyrim in his youth.

He wasn't from Atmora, that's Imperial bull. That mess you wrote was Imperial bull. After Ysgamor fled his homeland of Atmora due to a civil war, they settled in a land that now houses Winterhold and the College of Winterhold. If you did the college of Winterhold Quest, you'd find a book called Night of Tears. Once they settled there, ther were attacked by the Snow Elves that inhabited the area and Ysgamor fled back to Atmora and requested an Army to return with him. They came back and conquered the Elves and settled there once again. Once the war ended, the Five Hundred went their separate ways and founded the human races that you see in the game now. Skyrim wasn't even called Skyrim then, it was called Merth (i'll let you figure out who lived there) Talos, Tiber Septum, whatever he's called, came from Atmora before it became a frozen wasteland. He wasn't the founder of the Nord race since he had no known children, Ysgamor was the founder of the Nord race. First off, I never said Tiber was the 'founder' of the Nordic race. I am well aware it was Ysgramor.

Secondly, where does it ever say the 500 split and became the seperate races? There are stories of the early Nords finding Bretons and mistaking them for elves.