User blog comment:Zippertrain85/Dawnguard Conclusion/@comment-17114085-20140524013940

''Why didn't they? If they had all this open land to work with, I don't see what your point is at all. If the Atmorans would just follow them, why didn't they colonize the land? It makes no sense.''

I've explained this a billion times. The Atmorans went around killing all the Snow Elves, following them wherever they went. Eventually they did settle down and colonize Skyrim. The first was Windhelm that was founded by Ysgramor. We don't know when the other cities were founded but the Old Holds were probably founded first.

Harold, there's hardly any evidence to support that, that is a theory invented by you, why are you treating it like it's a complete fact?

Oh Zipper, now you are just being hypocritical. Show me the evidence that Ysgramor ruled all of Skyrim...there is none. We know that he ruled Eastmarch and that others cities were founded by other people, and presumably ruled by them. You can't make the leap in logic where Ysgramor went just being the King of Eastmarch to being the King of Skyrim if there is nothing to point that he ruled anything other than Eastmarch. Also the hypocritical part is how you believe that Ysgramor ruled all of Skyrim without any evidence to support it yet you don't believe that Harkon was a King.

''It was irrelevant because it didn't have anything to do with Ysgramor only rulling Windhelm, actually it goes against your theory since the Atmorans worshipped the Dragons, therefor they would look up to the Dragon Priests, which would mean the country is unified. Since, there can't be multiple kings in one government, just like you can't have TWO president in Brazil or something like that. Which means, that their probably weren't any kings outside of Ysgramor and his family before Harald.''

The Atmorans didn't look up to the dragons. They were ruled by the Dragons. Skyrim wasn't unified under one King, at most they were unified under the Dragon Cult. This point neither supports nor hurts my argument as either way there are other Kings that ruled over the other holds, since the province wasn't unified under one King. Also The Dragon Cult, like I said, is above everyone else. They were similar to how the Catholic Church was in the Medieval Age, they basically ruled all the Christian countries because of their influence but each country had its own King.

How did you make the leap from Dragon Cult to all Kings were related to Ysgramor? The other Kings weren't all descendants of Ysgramor, the only ones that are stated as being from Ysgramor's line were the Kings/Jarls from Windhelm and Winterhold. If other Jarls were descendant from Ysgramor then the Ysgramor Dynasty wouldn't end with Borgas, which was the last in Ysgramor's line. Borgas would have had cousins that were also descendants of Ysgramor.

''Look Harold, it's just as likely she could've been surprised there was an Empire in that area, even if she knew they existed, what you're saying is that your personal interpretation is fact. Which I don't believe is true at all.''

Fine, you can believe whatever you want. But to me it is clear that if she was from the Interregnum she wouldn't be like "Cyrodiil?", she would be like "Who won?". But then again ESO was made after Dawnguard and Zenimax was the one that created the Alliances and the whole Molag Bal incident.

Also because Harkon and his family were turned into Pure-blooded Vampire when Serana and Valerica were raped it is heavily implied that they were the beginning of the Volkihar Clan. If they had joined an existing Clan then there would be no need for them to be raped, as they could have just been given the blood by another Vampire Lord.