Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-26213507-20150928140042/@comment-28589830-20151003172447

DeletedContent wrote: Ulfric really is a shmuck though. Heres why:

1) He doesn't give a flying f#ck for anyone who is not a Nord.

2) He killed a guy just for the throne, when he could have just asked him to support him, and the guy (we are talking about Torygg BTW) would have done so.

3) He has no plan for the future

4) His right-hand man (Galmar) is even more racist than he is!

5) He uses his charisma in order to sway thousands into sacrificing themselves just for is own sake.

6) He might actually be a Thalmor spy. And the Thalmor are the biggest jerks in Tamriel!

7) He's a hypocrit (I am not going to name any particular examples, but just lsiten to his dialouge).

8) He cheated in his duel with Torygg (shouting counts as magic guys!!!)

9) He locks the Argonians out of the city, for no good reason (this ties into #1)

10) His skull is thicker than the armor on a Master Dwemer Centurion!

(more coming up, and feel free to add your thoughts!) 1 he is less racist than most of the townsfolk, as he allows Dunmer refugees to live in his city

2 we do not know if Torygg would actually support him. the only quote that suggests that comes from Sybille Stentor, who is quite biased towards Torygg and the empire.

3 he does plan to rebuild skyrim's economy and take the fight to the Thalmor

4 true, i'll give you that.

5 isn't this what all war leaders do?

6 he's not a spy. that thalmor document may refer to him as an "uncooperative asset", but that is not the same as him actively exchanging information with them. true, this rebellion is exactly what the Thalmor want in skyrim, but i doubt Ulfric is working for them.

7 if you want to convince people of this, you'll need examples.

8 shouting is not the same as magic, as it takes a lot more time and effort to learn for a non-dragonborn. besides, who said magic wasn't allowed in that duel?

9 that decree was in place long before ulfric assumed power. he did not invent it.

10 lolwut?

however all of this does not matter. Ulfric's personality will be of no importance once he lies dead at the feet of the Thalmor, which will happen if the empire doesn't stay together to fight the dominion.