Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-77.172.125.107-20130901100104/@comment-13446185-20130923220052

Nazul Rostello wrote: Dovahsebrom wrote: Well the Snow Elves are one thing, but honestly I would be quite content if every Forsworn douchebag fell on their own swords and had dragons eat their carcasses.

The Nords were in the Reach before them, the Reachmen have no right to claim the Reach even if it is their homeland. Atmorans were there first in Skyrim, but doesn't stay long in the Reach after the intermingling with the elves. Don't be daft, Nords don't own the land. The Forsworn rebellion is about their struggle in maintaining their indigenous way of life amidst the much more civilized way of life of the "Imperialized" Nords in Haafingar.

Of course the Reachmen have right to claim the Reach, it is their native land, they have soaked it with their blood defending the land from the foreigners not once but twice; first time from the royal bastards, second time from the cavemen.

How am I being "daft", the Nords have always lived in the Reach, long before Reachmen and perhaps even Bretons existed, and long after then. The Reach your probably talking about with the Nords leaving would be the Western Reach which was abandoned by the Nords after the War of Succession, so yes Nords do own the Reach.

By the way, the Reachmen were born in the Western Reach as they owe more of there ancestry to Bretons and Elves than Nords.

The Reachmen have only owned the Reach 3 times,


 * Red Eagle, Sometime Around 1E 1000; (most likely caused by the fallout of the War of Succesion as that is the only thing I could think would have the nords lose control of the Reach). Reach was made up of 10 warring kingdoms, ended by Alessians.


 * The Interregnum, somewhere between 2E 430 - 2E 854; just about every small hold in Tamriel broke apart during this time, it is most likely that they were also still made up of small kingdoms.


 * Forsworn Uprising 4E 174 - 4E 176; the entire Reach breaks off from Skyrim, because of the Great War.

Every bit of time dating to after ME 200 and between these gaps would be Nord dominance over the Reach.

P.S: I find it kind of ironic that these so called "cavemen" live rather civilized lives while your "first class citizen" Forsworn practice human sacrifice, worship hagravens, and kill every person who isn't part of their race.