Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-209.7.3.188-20160303204000/@comment-28589830-20160511203233

Blademaster Jauffre wrote: Ashley Kirshbaum wrote: torygg never used the voice. i think you mean ulfric.

we do not know how many people currently know how to use the thuum. after all, the ebony warrior picked it up somewhere, and i doubt the greybeards taught him.

ulfric's intentions have no impact on whether the fight was fair. whether he asked for independence would have been irrelevant. My bad, yes I meant Ulfric.

There's a Dragon in Hammerfell known as Nafalilargus, uncertain if he lives, but it does seem likely.

Yes it would be relevant, the very fact that he didn't ask led to the Imperials thinking he was just after the throne. So he was charged with foul murder. (Which he would've gotten anyway because of the Voice) Nafalilargus was killed by cyrus. he may or may not have been resurrected by alduin, but even if he was, he wouldn't have had enough time to teach the ebony warrior, as alduin has only just returned and it takes a non-dragonborn years to learn a shout. there have to be other people around who know the thuum.

the imperials would likely have framed Ulfric with foul murder regardless of whether the duel was fair or whether he announced his intentions beforehand, as they cannot allow an independent skyrim to happen. it would weaken the empire too much, and thus make things easier for the dominion.

i don't see how usage of the thuum is unfair. it is a skill that takes a lot of effort to learn, so mastery of it shows that the person has great willpower.