Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-50.72.49.241-20130930130812/@comment-77.58.147.184-20140906080420

82.15.14.104 wrote: 108.92.114.79 wrote: For those saying that Torygg shouldn't hold a grudge because he accepted the fight- I even saw one person relate it to you playing a game and being bet ten dollars- you're missing a detail. I'll use the afformentioned metaphor. Your friend walks up to you and asks to play a game where you bet $50. Now you could either play the game and risk losing the money, but if you don't play, you know that your girlfriend watching this might dump you for it. Replace the money with his life, replace his girlfriend with his position as High King. My opinion on the war is a bit different from everyone here. The Stormcloaks are blindly following a man simply given he talks a good cause, but is only a power-hungry Nord using his war hero past as an attempt to cover up and justify his cause. The Imperials, who I tend to follow, are fighting to keep control of a territory they've held onto for years and protect from the Thalmor. Altmer stick out their contracts. They wouldn't lay a finger on Imperial territory until the White-Gold Concordat was null. The moment Ulfric becomes High King, Skyrim isn't Imperial territory, and it's open season on Skyrim for the Thalmor. Now, this would bring the Thalmor a hell of a lot closer to their plans to bring an end to Man and open Aethierus,as they'd wipe out an entire province of man. The faction that is the Thalmor are simply trying to attain power that they believe to be rightfully theirs, being a seat of nigh-immortality that accessibility has been lost to for ages. The Thalmor are going after something that they have a claim to, something they lost ages ago and wish to reclaim-although this is a case of does the ends justify the means. The Imperials are bent on protecting Skyrim from the Thalmor who would inevitably wipe them out. The Stormcloaks think they're after a good cause, but their leader is wacked up and power hungry. It's perfectly legal and normal for Jarls of Skyrim to challenge the High King.. I see this all too often, people who lack any lore knowledge whatsoever commenting on things.

Yes that is correct however by starting the civil war. Ulfric almost destroyed the very thing he was fighting for, Skyrim by leaving it and the Empire vulnerable to Thalmor attack.