Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-24267938-20130323172448/@comment-6707115-20160125042405

TiberCaesarAndRepublicOfTamriel wrote: Rigid Generic wrote:

173.230.161.244 wrote: For those saying Martin Septim created an eternal barrier between Oblivion and Tamriel, no he did not. In Skyrim, Daedra communicate with Mortals and physically manifest themselves, get drunk, cause hell, etc.

Dragonborn needs to take the throne. Martin Septim's sacrifice was in vain. Dagon is alive and he will come back. I have questioned that before. The fact that Daedra can contact the people of Mundus even after the events of the Oblivion Crisis.

But I believe that while they can make contact with people in Nirn, the Daedric Lords themselves cannot enter Nirn in their physical form the way that Mehrunes did. Spoliers below:

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Daedra

n The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, the Dragonborn can become a Nightingale, and, after returning the Skeleton Key, is greeted by the Daedric Prince Nocturnal herself. She appears as she does in Oblivion, at her shrine.

The Dragonborn can do the Septimus Signus quest and encounter Hermaeus Mora, who appears as a void of darkness (since Dragonborn, this is no longer true, as he is replaced by a grotesque mass of eyes and tentacles, similar to how he did in Oblivion.

In "A Night to Remember", the daedric prince Sanguine reveals his true form after piecing together your night of "fun".

The Daedric Prince Sheogorath reveals himself in the Pelagius Wing after doing his quest.

The Daedric Prince Azura is encountered at her shrine and can reward the Dragonborn with Azura's Star if her quest is completed.

In "Ill Met by Moonlight", the Daedric Lord Hircine reveals himself after slaying his mortal form, a White Stag. He will also reward the Dragonborn the Savior's Hide after killing a werewolf named Sinding or the Ring of Hircine if Sinding is spared.

"The Break of Dawn", given by Meridia, requires the Dragonborn to purge the undead and Malkoran from her shrine. The quest rewards a good amount of gold, and the unique blade Dawnbreaker.

So you see, the Daedra are still interacting with, and even physically manifesting themselves in, the mortal plane. Martin's death only delayed the great Merhunes Dagon's inevitable victory.

Skyrim needs a Dragonborn emperor now more than ever. He/She could unite the dragons against the dominion, and take the title Tiber Septim the 2nd. It would be glorious. I believe that they simply cannot fully manifest in all their power on Nirn, but they can still reach out from a distance to influence events, or manifest on Nirn as a projection or a shadow of their full power (enough so that while they could still do damage if they so chose, they'd be incapable of conquering Nirn singlehandedly or transporting a limitless army of Daedra there).