Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-8248675-20130606043855/@comment-17114085-20140427142755

Other oversouls? Like the emperor-oversoul, or the Dovahkiin's soul collection? They are just jombled up messes of souls.

Tiber Septim is the result of an Enantiomorph (Hjalti vs Zurin)

They reflect the Enantiomorph made by Anuiel and Sithis, which resulted with the creation of something new (the Aurbis). Yes other Oversouls. Like General Talos, God Talos, Underking, ALMSIVI, etc. None of them can do what Tiber could do. Interact with one of their parts.

Uhhh, no. The Aurbis is a overlap of Anu and Padomay. Not Anuiel and Sithis. Aurbis is the Universe in TES.

Uh no... A Shezarrine is an avatar of Lorkhan. What ever made you think that? And an avatar of Lorkhan is what? He mantles him.

Here are the only people to ever been named Ysmir

Wulfharth

Talos Stormcrown

Talos the God

Ysmir: believed to be an early incarnation of Pelinal (may very well have been Wulfharth)

Note how each one of these beings are connected to Lorkhan (most of them being connected to Talos, more specifically Wulfharth)

Now look at this again; N
 * 1) Wulfharth L
 * 2) Hjalti O
 * 3) Ysmir R
 * 4) Talos K
 * 5) Arctus H
 * 6) Septim A

Note how Ysmir is listed as an avatar of Lorkhan.

Also, not every Dragonborn has been given the title Ysmir, Talos Stormcrown was the last person to be awarded the title.

And then there is the initiation speach for the Ysmir.

''"Long has the Storm Crown languished with no worthy brow to sit upon. By our breath we bestow it now to you in the name of Kyne, in the name of Shor, and in the name of Atmora of old. You are Ysmir now, the Dragon of the North. Hearken to it." ''

Would you happen to know the Ehlnofex translation for Storm crown?

TALOS

PS: Of course I know what Ysmir means, my account name is "Dragon of the North" in Dovahzul. Talos was the last Dragonborn to earn the title because he was the last true Dragonborn. The other Septims weren't true dragonborns. They were dragonblooded. The title Ysmir has existed way before Pelinal, Wulfarth and General Talos. Because of this it is extremely likely that the title has been taken by other Nordic Heroes that predate them.

You know why Talos is translated to Stormcrown? Because Talos is just another name that was given to Hjalti/Wulfarth Oversoul by the Greybeards. Ysmir being stated as being an aspect of Lorkhan was likely the Ysmir General Talos. Because Talos is only stated once, despite there being two different Talos.

You know who else was once mistaken to be Hjalti... Ysmir Wulfharth. You know why? Because Wulfarth was a dragonborn. Also, being given the title Ysmir makes people see a Dragon when they see you. Which is likely why the Last Dragonborn and Wulfarth were mistaken for Hjalti. That is probably that Aetherial aura that I was talking about, a dragon aura. Though you can see the ghost before being given the title Ysmir by the Greybeards? I think you can, can't you? If so then it's not the Ysmir Dragon aura that made the ghost think that the LD was Hjalti. There probably is another aura that true Dragonborn have....