Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-3539474-20130910213054/@comment-8248675-20130920191136

80.216.214.210 wrote: King of Skyrim wrote: Imperial side bar none.

Ulfric wants to invade the dominion with an army that has only like 300 soldiers, (look at the camps and the guards in the cities)

And even if Ulfric wins, the empire has A LOT more soldiers, so it'll be easy to send in an invasion force to take back skyrim from those barbarian bastards! Ugh, no thats hardware limitations.

And how many legionaries are in Skyrim?

Like all of 50 ingame?

How many times have we been told how much more and faster humans reproduce?

A trillion?

Are you seriously saying that the Imperials on their own outnumber the Nords?

Cause I doubt it.

Skyrim wins the civil war and goes to repeat what happened to the Snow Elves only this time the job is done right. Especially since if you look at it realistically, a Leggate is in charge of one Legion each, General according to Roman standards in charge of the Army consisting of few Legions. Now count the amount of Leggates you see in Skyrim, including Rike and Dragonborn if he or she becomes a member of Imperial Legion. You will get the true amount of Legions in Skyrim that were used to quell the rebelion. That also considering the fact that there is a total of 18 Imperial Legions that we know off, there might be more that unmentioned anywhere. I will not got into how many Legionaires are in one Legion, for that you got Impeiral Legion, wika article; but I do believe each consists of 100 men, I might be mistaken.

As far as Stormcloak rebels go, it must be close to a decent half of Old Holds' population and Old Holds are entire Eastern Skyrim, everything to the east of Whiterun. I am not sure of Stormloak organization, but given the fact that a lot of them are old Legionaires, I would assume that they would organized their units in the similar way, as much as numers in the unit goes. I do believe that with Gunmar-Stone Fist and Dragonborn as the officers of Stormcloaks, there would be roughly the same amount of Stormcloak units as Legions in Skyrim. It could be the knowledge of terrain that Stormcoaks have adventage on that plaid a role in the stalemate so far, but could also be the equal strengh in numbers.

As far as with who I want to go with concernd, it's a tricky one. I normally side with the Empire, but I am not too sure they have entire truth. They are biding their time to strike back at Dominion, but is their strategy of giving up Talos and Hammerfell a wining one at the end?

Now as far as Stormcloaks go, I don't believe that their main goal in the war of independence is to make everyone within Skyrim to accept Nordic ways. The main goal is to reinstate the hero of men, Talos. Also, they are done taking orders from Empire who betrayed their sacrafices in Great War. (That is exactly the reason Civil War in Russia started, the new Bolshevik government made a separate peace with Germany, relinquishing parts of Russian Empire, making many World War I veterans, who were just fighting in that war, spiling their blood and all of the sudden new government just signs a peace treaty with Germany, while the allies still fighting. Those who did not want accept that treaty of Brest Letovsk, declared themselves a White Movement (Loyalists to Old Regime) for about 3 or four years they fought the Red Armies of Bolsheviks, before having to leave Russia forever, or submit and be executed or imprissoned for years.) In anycase, it would seem that since Nords of the Old Holds are so dissilusioned with Empire, they suspicious and mistrustful of anyone who isn't a Nord. Some take "Skyrim for the Nords" in the wrong way, think that Stormcloaks are prejudice to other's in Skyrim, so they are Prejudice to the "Provincials". In fact, I do believe that "Skyrim for the Nords" mostly means that it is time for Nords to stop being second class citizens in their own home and take control of Skyrim, have the High King that is elected by the Moot, not handpicked by the Emperor. Within Stormcloaks by the way, they don't care so much for your race, as long as you are true to Stormcloak's cause. Except Gunmar-Stone Fist, will never trust your character completely. Not the way Ulfric Stormcloak does, despised of all they say about his prejudice, he would make a Dunmer a thane and would completely trust them, if they earned his trust. On the other hand Brunwulf Freewinter, would refer to you as Cat or a Lizzard, if you a Khajit or Argonian, some open minded he is.

I would really like to join this, but I cannot decide who to side with. Is there a possibility for the one where Dragonborn made long lasting peace between the Empire and Stormcloaks and they finally realized who is the true enemy is and now Dominion is screwed, since Imperial Legions and Stormcoak armies of Skyrim is out to get them and involudate the White Gold Concordum?