Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-2.100.92.38-20130821124429/@comment-3573184-20130913113948

Hbxn wrote: tiber septim is said to have achieved it, so vivec can't possibly be the strongest being there is... in TES universe Like I said before

SajuukKhar wrote: Given that CHIM is a state of being that allows for full manipulation of the universe, even greater then anything then the Aedra or Daedra are capable of.... yes.

Vivec is more powerful then any Daedra, any Aedra, or any spirits of any kind, except Talos, who also has CHIM.