Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-71.61.178.23-20130722105712/@comment-9601450-20131123010218

Amperial wrote: Epic effort, everybody. Bows.

I have a few questions about the daedric sympathy system though.

Like Malacath - why on nirn would he disapprove if an orc is killed? AFAIK he cares about those who are strong enough kill and about those who spit death in the face as they are killed. So I think, actually you should gain points with Malacath for every duel won against an orc - both proving your strength and gifting one of his favored people the good death. And for strengthening the orsimer by culling a weakling from their ranks (How could I forget that!!).

On the other tentacle you might loose points with him for stealth attacks (which would please Boethia) - except in legitimate war, where the ambush becomes part of the warriors catechism.

And you would definitely loose major points for backing down from a challenge. Any challenge, not just to a fight.

Just my 2 cents.

Similarly Azura - why would she care if and when you killed somebody or something?

Correct me if my Lore does not hold true. Dawn and Dusk is the A and the O, the creation and destruction. So the way I see Azura she would be pleased by acts of creation (like planting a garden or bearing a child, maybe founding a nation ) and by acts of destruction with protective or creative intent (like killing vampires to end their misery (Azuras quest in Oblivion) - which would also please Meridia, or like the way Ripley and the Alien Mother fight - both to protect their brood, so both worthy in the eyes of Azura, or like plucking weeds in a garden).

Just the two Daedra closest to my world.

Another snag for me is Jyggalags opposition of the Thalmor.

He is about order, not about benevolence. And in the world the Thalmor envision I see nothing but order and control and domination.

(Somebody please link me up to their supposed world-destruction plans, I have yet to find the evidence.) Thank you, you raise valid points.

Yes, losing favor for killing an Orc does seem a little extreme, maybe instead you lose favor if you sneak kill an Orc? But I'm not sure he would have to much of an issue if you sneak kill someone other then an orc, also it would discourage people from being assasians.

Let's see, how much order have they brought? The Nords rebelling? The Redguards leaving the Empire? I'd say that they've brought more disorder then all the dictatorships that have been in Tamreil, so if order is one of there objectives they sure as heck are doing a bad job of it. Control and Domination? The Daedric Prince that sphere of influrnce would be Molag Bal, and he's most certainly one of the Daedra that cursed Jyggalag.

Still, you made good points.