User talk:Timeoin

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A Memory Book
Hey Timeoin, I've noticed you've been making pages for books in. There's one that I need you to create as soon as you can known as "A Memory Book". I have found part 2 of it in-game, but I haven't seen part 1 and don't know if there's a part 3. It has some lore info I need for an article I'm going to make. Thanks in advance. ☞ Rim < Talk 20:15, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Moot Timings
Hey Tim,

I know you're in Oz so the Moot is particularly difficult to attend anyway, but I'll ask you for completeness! How does moving the Moot six hours earlier work for you?

Regards, Bronkiin (talk) 17:13, October 8, 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the response! Bronkiin (talk) 20:44, October 8, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Moot Times
That's why you watch it online bro xD But considering it's probably going to be moved to 4am our time, I don't think that'll be an issue anyway :( -- { 12:40, October 9, 2015 (UTC) }

Templates for new pages
Hey Timeoin!

I just noticed something, and I thought I should suggest it. I noticed that when is typed on a page, then the pagename is typed out. I got to thinking, and noticed that we wouldn't have to type the name out, and  should make it bold. I'd figure that this would be able to make creating new pages faster (which is helpful with the excess redlinks we have, and new Online pages, as I'm quite sure you know.) However, I'd figure that I shouldn't get all of this changed (providing that they aren't locked) without someone's consent.

Thanks for everything you do! The Crusader of Truth (talk) 20:57, October 20, 2015 (UTC)

Re: New Pages
Hya,

Sorry I didn't reply sooner. I spoke with Atvloinis on the topic a few days ago and (if I recall correctly)) he said that that wouldn't work out on pages named like Chicken (Skyrim). The (Skyrim) would show on the new page.

However, if you still would say it's a good idea (I'd say it still could easily be debatable) I would like for you to bring it up during the moot. I won't likely get there, still don't really have internet. If I do get to the moot, I wouldn't have enough time to properly bring it up (I can use mobile data), my chat would likely drop due to lack of connection, since I have no connection on my phone where I live.

Thanks! The Crusader of Truth (talk) 15:11, October 23, 2015 (UTC)

Re: oblivion Planes
Sorry for not responding sooner, was busy with non-wiki stuff and forgot. I added some based on bits and pieces of lore I was looking at a while ago, but I'm not certain how notable some of them are so feel free to add/remove to the template. Takubar should be in Coldharbour where the cold-flame atronachs are (also mentioned here).

Edit: also, I mentioned here that can use subst: to bypass the problems with the pagename templates. --Shockstorm (talk) 23:41, October 27, 2015 (UTC)

Vandalism
Hey Tim,

I've tried (and possibly failed!) to add this to vandalism in progress. I think it's just been added to deletion candidates by Azura. Thought I'd report it.

Regards,

Bronkiin (talk) 20:31, November 6, 2015 (UTC)


 * I've deleted the article and blocked the anon now, no worries. —Atvelonis (talk) 23:33, November 6, 2015 (UTC)

Talk page policy
Does this wiki have any policies about users erasing thier talk pages. User:X-Mutant has been erasing messages from his talk page, and Shockstorm and I reverted their edits afterwords. X-Mutant messseaged me expaining why he erased his messegas. After recieving his message i looked for info in the community guidelines about erasing messeges, with the intention of providing him with a link to such policy, but could not find anything. The Cat Master (talk) 06:34, November 8, 2015 (UTC)

Quick Question
Hey, tim just a quick question, do we still add italics to quest articles? I need to know asap, because I'm on an editing spree atm. :P. Starkiller131 (talk) 20:47, November 9, 2015 (UTC)

True story
You love the face Flowers.

Aussie Crown Store prices
Hey, i was wondering if you get time would you mind adding the crown package prices in Australian dollars to the tables in the Crowns and Crown Store pages. Thanks :) The Cat Master (talk) 18:34, December 11, 2015 (UTC)

Flags
When you add Incomplete and other notice templates, remember that it's best to use the Flags feature, so that logged-out users and mobile users in particular don't have the search results messed up with the template being what they read rather than the beginning of the article. Just add Online, Skyrim, Morrowind, etc. as the parameter for it to get the subcategory added. Thanks! —Atvelonis (talk) 20:19, December 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * That, or put it at the bottom of the page (best IMO since those templates aren't going to be of interest to the majority of readers). I was going to bring that up (how we should use those sorts of templates) sometime but haven't had time yet. --Shockstorm (talk) 20:25, December 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * For now, I'll just change them to the bottom of the page. Personally, I **HATE** the Flags, because I've had issues where I haven't been able to access/edit them, and ones that are actually not requiring a template anymore are stuck with one, due to being unable to change it. (Even now, for every template change I'm making, its taking a good minute or so to load that flags section. When you are as time-poor when it comes to editing as I am, that poses a very serious problem :\ Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 17:30, December 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Wow, they don't let admins change the flags? Well, I'm not surprised. I really appreciated how Wikia added a bunch of the flags to pages several months ago without our input, pushing everything down (like with the for template), l0l. --Shockstorm (talk) 18:36, December 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * No, they do let me change the flags, it just takes a while to do so. (Compared with, say, editing a page, which is relatively quick and easy, particularly when you're making small changes :) The other issue I have with the flags is theres no trackability for it. For example, I've already removed (via phone edit, which is a pain anyways :P) a bunch of flags, and unless you go to the specific page and knew it was there before, you honestly wouldn't be able to tell. Same with adding them - if they are unneccessarily ADDED you wouldn't know either. Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 18:40, December 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Case in point: I just made two edits to Northsalt Village. One to add the incomplete template. The other to remove the flag, Only one shows up. Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 18:46, December 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh, but they do appear in logs now (took Wikia a while haha). Btw, this guy is using multiple IPs (it's like his 3rd or 4th, as you can see in the page history of Reap's talk page). May want to get VSTF involved. --Shockstorm (talk) 18:48, December 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Errr... yes, there is. Lol - didnt think to check the Logs. There is one there for logs, apparently. (The more you know! :p) but its hidden somewhat, as you have to search for flags logs to see it). As for the other issue ... With luck, the change I just did on the page will fix that - new/unregistered users unable to edit talk page. Not sure what it was even about? Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 23:19, December 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Just some guy mad at another guy over a block or something (all from another wiki). Haha --Shockstorm (talk) 00:33, December 23, 2015 (UTC)

Hey, the headers should remain uncapitalized unless they're proper nouns or (maybe) headers in a quest (it's on the style and format thing). Oh, and I think we're done sorting out the incomplete article category, so that's good :p --Shockstorm (talk) 00:42, December 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah, sorry about that. I had extra time so I went and did them all, assuming no one else wanted to since it's kinda a chore. --Shockstorm (talk) 03:16, December 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh, there's still plenty here (mostly the Expand template) and here. --Shockstorm (talk) 06:16, December 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * They're still there in the source code, but they're not displaying in the table of contents or on the page itself. I tried purging/null edit but that doesn't help. Probably a bug. --Shockstorm (talk) 17:23, December 31, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Greetings from Australia
Ooops... I didn't check my user talk before replying in the thread xDD Anyway, I already answered in Thread:893001. Greetings :) 11:13, January 2, 2016 (UTC)

Chat
I'd need you on the chat for a few minutes, it's rather important, I cannot go on FB for a while so...Emperor Jarjarkine (Talk) 21:05, January 12, 2016 (UTC)

Permission error?
I'm trying to upload an image to the wiki in relation to a trivia addition on "The Black Star (Quest)"   page, but it says I am unable to do so due to a permission error. Can you explain what thisis, why it showed up, and how to fix it? Foxi Hooves (talk) 00:55, January 22, 2016 (UTC)


 * I can't even get to the part where I can name it.  My options path is Add Photo To Gallery > Upload Photo, then I get the error box selecting a photo from my desktop for upload. Foxi Hooves (talk) 23:40, January 22, 2016 (UTC)

== Br==

Hey Tim,

Just a quick note: we use "br /" (like the source on this messages heading) as standard because we believe it messes up certain browsers less. A minor thing from a while back, so don't worry for missing it!

Regards,

Bronkiin (talk) 02:49, January 27, 2016 (UTC)

Request
Please remove my patroller and chat moderator rights. --Shockstorm (talk) 05:52, February 8, 2016 (UTC)

Daggerfall pages
Hey Tim, the Daggerfall dungeon page you moved are actually supposed to be misspelled, as that's how it appears in-game. —Atvelonis (talk) 17:05, February 14, 2016 (UTC)
 * I dunno if undoing a pagemove actually works, I think you have to just move it normally again. I fixed it a couple hours ago though so don't worry. —Atvelonis (talk) 19:49, February 14, 2016 (UTC)

Stolen Items
There isn't a point color-labeling items if we know what the rarity is. White - common, green - uncommon, blue - rare. 30 gold < 100 gold < 250 gold

I haven't found any items past rare, however.

Ikabite (talk) 01:20, March 4, 2016 (UTC)


 * Since the Thieves Guild came out Zeni added categories to the stolen items. I have no idea if they change anything about them, haven't seen anything yet. Either way, somebody should probably categorize the Stolen Items page somehow. Because doing is by regions as we do right now repeats items. Why not sort them by rarity and add the regions where they can be found to the listed item. Actually, a table would be great for that page.


 * Ikabite (talk) 11:58, March 9, 2016 (UTC)


 * If you want to bring it up in the moot, then we might as well tackle the entire issue with item pages. Because if we started doing this with Stolen Items, we could as well do a list of Recipes, Crafting Items, Motifs, Trash Items. I have started applying my own solution for unique quest items this way - The Skin Trade, Partners in Crime. And locations like Argent Mine or Fulstrom Manor House link to the subtitle on the quest page.


 * Ikabite (talk) 20:18, March 9, 2016 (UTC)

Br
Hey Tim,

I saw your edits on the Draugr pages, and wanted to let you know that the "  " tag is not technically correct anymore. I believe " " is standard now. I don't know you'd have to ask Crusader for any more info on it. I just wanted to tip you off is all.

G'bye, mate. - 20:33, March 10, 2016 (UTC)

P.S. Is "g'bye mate" an actual thing? Never heard of it, just thought of it :P.


 * Oh wait, and then I realized Bron already told you. Oh well, I guess two voices are better than one.


 * - 20:34, March 10, 2016 (UTC)

does, so we've been switching to lately. —Atvelonis (talk) 20:08, March 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * is from a version of HTML that's being phased out since on some browsers or with some settings applied it doesn't register as a line break, but


 * Hey Tim! I was crawling around here because I tend to do some research on the past of the old Oblivion wiki, and I saw this post. While it may be kind of died out by now, I'll carry on with what Atv talked about. Sorry if this is a little sudden or whatnot, I just like to clarify everyone is up to date with the thing :D

. While this don't seem much like anything, eventually won't work at all. The reason behind the entire change is that many computers are beginning to convert over to XHMTL, the new and fancy thing on the block. However, XHTML does not support using. The reason being? HTML supports having the considered to be an open tag, however, XHTML does not accept having open tags. As such, XHTMl requires any br codes to be closed off with a " /", otherwise they will not work on newer devices in the near feature (As well as a couple now).
 * While tends to work just fine on a lot of older computers, it is starting to slowly get phased out. This phase out is being replaced by


 * Sorry if this seems a tad bit random now that the message is a week old, but I figured I should post a full explanation to keep you in the feed of things -- Unless, you already learned the rest, and in that case, sorry that you just read that all.


 * Give them young'uns a kiss on the forehead for me and tell them I said g'day, if they're into being greeted by internet strangers and whatnot. Thanks, for taking the time to read that massive blob of text, as well as everything you've done for the wiki! PS: I just now noticed that Ned mentioned asking me about this when I was checking to see if I put everything correct in the Mediawiki xD

Dynamic Tables in this Wiki
G'day

I've been a lurker for this Wiki for some time but I've only recently become active with contributing to it. I've been told you're an Admin that is a fellow Aussie, so I thought I'd contact you about something I think this Wiki should employ.

I've been looking at some of the pages on this Wiki's where stuff is listed in tables and I realised that all these tables are manually maintained. I would like to humbly suggest that this Wiki starts using Dynamic Tables, which give better continuity of data.

What I mean by Dynamic Tables (skip this if you know what they are)...
Imagine you want to check out what the armour rating is for all types of Heavy Armour for the game you're playing...

Rather than having a table that has been created manually where people have put in the data for each item (which could be inaccurate due to typos or the like, and/or conflict with other info given on other pages), the page has code that generates the data for the table when the page is loaded, based on information of every piece of Heavy Armour for, say, Skyrim, or ESO, or whichever game you're playing. The reason Dynamic Tables are superior to mannually maintained tables is that if there is a patch that is released that changes the stats of an items, all that needs to happen is the data for each item's individual page needs to be updated and then EVERY table that lists that item will automatically show the correct data.

In the case of ESO, where there are frequently new items added to the game with each new release, as soon as a page is created for each new item with the necessary Infobox template and tagged to the correct Categories, that item will now be listed in all relevant Dynamic Tables.

It's more efficient, and it means there is continuity of data.

What needs to happen for this Wiki to start using Dynamic Tables...

 * The first step is that an Admin needs make a request to Wikia via Special:Contact to request dpl for this Wiki.


 * The second step is that each item that is listed in this Wiki needs to have an Infobox that lists the key information, and that each item needs to be tagged to specific categories. Looking at the page for Imperial Helmet (Closed), this is already done.


 * The third and last step is to put the code for the tables into their relevant pages, and to remove the manual tables.

DPL is not enabled by default, and the wikia staff will ask you if you're sure and why you want the extension. Simply...
 * 1) we want to make complicated queries
 * 2) we want to manipulate the data that we receive
 * 3) we want the tables to update automatically when new items are added to the wiki

This is why this Wiki needs the dal extension.

The Tables themselves can be changed to have new columns added, and so long as there is a field for said data in the infobox then there is no additional work required. The only time that there would be additional work required is if there was a need for a table to show information that wasn't contained in the info box as a seperate field


 * Eg. Food items don't seem to have field for how much Health, Stamina and/or Magicka they give - which is exactly the information I want to know from a table that lists all food items so that I can know which ones are worth finding/creating.

Hope this is the correct place to put a suggestion like this. Apologies if it's not. It feels weird that this Wiki uses Talk pages rather than a message board.



''' Hello, i sent this complaint to the other admins too, i would like to complaint against Bronkiin (which im sure im not the first one) he comes into the chat today and me and others were talking and having a respectfull argument and he comes in and just kicks me out because "i'm not in a good mood today so be carefull"... that's his only reason for kicking me.. and there were couple of other users there like judgedred or something and daed..saurun and many others who also didn't like the way he kicks people out for no reason. so i would like to complaint and am asking to kick him and bring me back (and you can look and check the chat today (28\3\16) thats when it happened i cant say the time because maybe u live in dirferent time zone than me, thanks in advance. and have good one.SKiwa1ker1 (talk) 17:38, March 28, 2016 (UTC) '''

and i also wanted to add to my complaint that you can ask any of the users that were there they all said he kicks for no reason at all and they all argued against him when he came in... thank you. SKiwa1ker1 (talk) 17:41, March 28, 2016 (UTC)

Huh, don't think you've messaged me before in all the three years i've been here. Stray observation. On the topic of your message,it's no problem. Though I dont know if anyone asked for ESO...ps, efiting on mobile, do dont incur policy stuff if I do something wrong. $$Madman97$$

Files Plagiarized from UESP
Hello. I am a user of the Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages, and it has been brought to my attention that  on your site have been copied from    images originally uploaded to the UESP without providing the proper source. I proposed both of the files in question for deletion, with links to the original files. If you could make sure that these files are removed, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks! 74.83.66.97 21:29, April 1, 2016 (UTC)

Valley of the Blades
Thanks for creating this! It'd been something I'd kinda needed to do but put off for a while, so it was a pleasant surprise to see it made today!

Regards,

Bronkiin (talk) 21:10, April 8, 2016 (UTC)

Portable Infobox check
Hello! I'm Isaac, and I'm representing our Portability Initiative here at Wikia. I know that we've talked with you a bit about your ongoing migration, and I was checking in to see if we could help this process on your community. I know that you're doing much of it yourself, but I also wanted to offer assistance if you were swamped with other foci. We'd really like to get working on your community, but we need your go-ahead. Also, if you have any questions, or this is the wrong venue for this kind of a discussion, please let me know. Thanks! FishTank (wall) 01:43, April 18, 2016 (UTC)

Re:Legends Pages
Oh, I'm just tidying up the pages and stuff. Yumyum is finding the data from trailers and other Bethseda sources (not NDA stuff). --Shockstorm (talk) 19:32, April 22, 2016 (UTC)

The references for the cards I've been posting are the gameplay trailer.

However I have missed a couple cards here and there, they're mostly all when it flips through the book of cards.

This is the reference for the Attributes.

This is the reference for the classes.

I will add reference lists as I go on now, linking to the gameplay video. --- Yumyum36 (talk) 19:50, April 22, 2016 (UTC)

I really like card games. This included.

Also Category:Legends: Willpower Cards already exists as Category:Legends: Willpower. --- Yumyum36 (talk) 20:07, April 22, 2016 (UTC)


 * Figured since this existed I should go ahead and post it here. Try to use the preset at the top of the page then (Unless Atv still hasnt set up the additional preset, and in which case it is here.


 * Please try to put the infobox first, then the lead, and remove the Card template if it has no content like it just did. I understand you're on mobile so I don't expect everything to work out perfectly, just try to do those if you can please. Thanks, and cya round the wiki.

I hadn't thought about decks, but yeah that would be good. I'll show to Yumyum since they have some templates for other card games already made. --Shockstorm (talk) 21:24, April 22, 2016 (UTC)


 * Alright, thanks. You worry about getting some sleep after work (if possible, I know kids are a source of much excitement, but also tend to be of much noise as well,) I'll try to handle them if I can. My internet has been really shooty tonight after since a storm blew over my house so Im not sure how far I'll get though.


 * Update: I managed to fix everything up, so you're good. Made the LegendsEnemies template since it was needed @Wovles, but wasnt 100% sure what to put there so we might need to change it later. Going to work on the NewArticleText page for it in my sandbox now, you or Atv can add it whenever you get a sec. But for now, get some sleep!

Going to add on here, but I'm about to run through the cards again and put categories in for which keywords/abilities they have. Should the Category formatting be:(guard as an example)

"Category:Legends: Guard" OR "Category:Legends: Keyword: Guard" -- Yumyum36 (talk) 01:08, May 22, 2016 (UTC)

Legends Video
I recently found a video of a youtuber who Bethesda gave some brand new game play footage. It has a ton of new cards. When I put references on the page, should I link directly to the youtube video, or should I upload the video (feels slightly inappropriate to do so) and reference the file?

Video in question. Editing the cards now. Yumyum36 (talk) 17:15, April 30, 2016 (UTC)

Images Needed
Hi Timeoin, I'm currently going through this^ page little by little, and adding quality pics where possible. For example, I just finished Wulfharth and Ayleid. And will be continuing through the other pages that need images. My question is: once i've finished, I think some of the pages (not always) may need to be removed from the request category page, as if more images are added it will just clutter the article. Is it OK do remove the 'Image needed category' tag in those cases? AgentOfMara (talk) 10:48, May 25, 2016 (UTC)

User 66.87.115.233
I THINK (though not entirely sure) this user has been minorly vandalising on the page "Alftand" by adding "deez nuts" to the amenities list. Also, could you give me a link to the revision list (recently edited pages) if there is one because I can't find it (still new to the wiki). Thanks. EthanFriend03 (talk) 14:38, June 18, 2016 (UTC)

Just as I sent this, CarloV3R reedited "Alftand". EthanFriend03 (talk) 14:42, June 18, 2016 (UTC)

Back again!
Hey Timeoin! Maybe you know me, but I have contributed on this wiki since 2012 on various accounts, namely Thandeon, Aetherium, The Snow Prince and Asguardian. All accounts are deleted so I'm not active on any of them. Anyways, I wonder if you (or any other administrator who sees this) could redirect those profile articles to my account? Would very much appreciate it if you did! – Mel Sailor (talk) 21:14, June 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * Done. --Shockstorm (talk) 19:55, June 28, 2016 (UTC)

Vandal
Hey Tim, can you please take a second to block this vandal? Thanks -Kora Stormblade (talk) 17:29, July 21, 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks! -Kora Stormblade (talk) 17:32, July 21, 2016 (UTC)

Re: The most important thing
I'm sorry, What? :\ The Cat Master (talk) 20:20, July 22, 2016 (UTC)