Board Thread:Consensus Track/@comment-3485828-20140722174414/@comment-3485828-20140722191004

SuperSajuuk wrote: Why are we constantly trying to say the TOU is meaningless? I really wish people would stop saying that we have no obligation to pay any attention to Wikia's GLOBAL Terms of Use, or why the hell would they waste time writing one? It is a legal document, signing up to this website means you accept it, lying about your age to register here violates that legal document.

If someone admits to being underage, they're banned. This has been the norm of the chat ever since it was enabled, why should it be changing any time soon?

This just seems to be Elchzard forcing a personal opinion against the wiki, when we've done just fine banning underage users before he came along and started complaining about it. I'd like to thank GarouxBloodline for proving me right about COPPA.

Firstly, nobody has said that the ToU is meaningless. I've gone into a detailed discussion of why it is not our responsibility to enforce the ToU above - I suggest you read it. The reason people are saying we don't have an obligation is because there isn't one. The only thing that even makes an impact on any "legal" goings-on is an administrator using Special:Contact to tell staff about proof of a user being underage. Wikia have explicitly stated that they do not expect local administrators to police the ToU. This is a fact.

Secondly, I have not suggested that this should be changed any time soon. This thread is for a discussion of what should go on in an official manner, as there has been no such discussion in the past. Users deserve to have their views listened to - this is not an arbitrary decision to be made by moderators on-the-fly. What I do object to is that we ban people for violating the ToU. Banning people for a local policy about being underage is fine - but anything else is unfair, and pointless.

I'm not trying to "force any personal opinions" - that's why this is a discussion thread. Please remain civil.