User:KINMUNE/chatlog/20170515

2. Stalin 3. Shiro Ishii 4. Rudolf Hess 5. Adolf Hitler
 * 02:04:13: KINMUNE: Hello there, The Crusader of Truth!
 * 03:34:59: KINMUNE: Hello there, ShawnCognitionCP!
 * 06:08:58: KINMUNE: Hello there, Qahnaarin1997!
 * 08:50:54: KINMUNE: Hello there, RenzXVI!
 * 09:24:12: DemonRapArtist: "Only two, there are, no more. A master and an apprentice." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLt7PvFbq5c
 * 09:24:13: KINMUNE: 8 Year Old Raps Lil Wayne - How To Love (MattyBRaps Cover)
 * 10:32:20: KINMUNE: Hello there, Busiao No Laughs!
 * 12:34:31: KINMUNE: Hello there, Alexei Smirnov!
 * 12:34:43: Alexei Smirnov: Hello comrade
 * 12:40:28: Alexei Smirnov: I see that this chat is not very lively
 * 15:03:24: KINMUNE: Hello there, ClavicusVile335!
 * 15:03:32: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: hello
 * 15:03:37: ClavicusVile335: hey
 * 15:05:35: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: how's life?
 * 15:07:28: ClavicusVile335: good so far
 * 15:07:43: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: ah
 * 15:07:45: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: good
 * 15:08:05: ClavicusVile335: cant wait for morrowind, I will get it along the original morrowind
 * 15:09:38: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: the original morrowind is good, though it has a few flaws
 * 15:09:57: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: the combat is fairly lousy, for example
 * 15:10:14: ClavicusVile335: oh :(
 * 15:10:49: ClavicusVile335: but I think it will still be a fun experience though
 * 15:11:52: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: it is
 * 15:12:12: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: it's definitely worth getting, but oblivion and skyrim are better
 * 15:54:37: KINMUNE: Hello there, Nekyn Alb!
 * 15:54:46: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: hello
 * 15:55:04: Nekyn Alb: Hi o/
 * 15:55:16: ClavicusVile335: hey
 * 15:55:26: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: what's up?
 * 15:56:28: Nekyn Alb: Nothing, literally nothing 3:
 * 16:02:17: KINMUNE: Hello there, Josetrujillo!
 * 16:02:24: Josetrujillo: sup fuckers
 * 16:04:21: Josetrujillo: excepting on skyrim, i cant revive dead bodies
 * 16:07:34: Nekyn Alb: How does that relate to fuckers
 * 16:07:39: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: ^
 * 16:07:56: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: dead bodies usually aren't fucking
 * 16:08:56: Josetrujillo: you havent seen rule 34 right? XD
 * 16:10:12: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i'm familiar with it
 * 16:10:59: Josetrujillo: heh
 * 16:11:17: Josetrujillo: then you have the right biceps worked? XD
 * 16:12:51: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: what?
 * 16:13:25: Josetrujillo: nvm
 * 17:03:02: KINMUNE: Hello there, Bokya 54!
 * 17:03:11: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: hello
 * 17:03:20: Bokya 54: thanks for having me
 * 17:03:45: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: having you?
 * 17:04:05: Bokya 54: to join the chat
 * 17:04:22: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: ah
 * 17:04:29: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: everyone can join the chat
 * 17:04:58: Bokya 54: thanks what to talk about
 * 17:05:19: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: idk
 * 17:05:32: KINMUNE: Hello there, Trksh!
 * 17:05:33: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: do you know an interesting topic?
 * 17:05:34: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: hi
 * 17:05:41: Bokya 54: lets talk about skyrim special editon
 * 17:05:59: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i've only played regular skyrim, i'm afraid
 * 17:06:12: Bokya 54: are you enjoy it
 * 17:06:15: Trksh: Sheogorath! my favourite dude!
 * 17:06:16: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i hear special edition is even more buggy than regular skyrim though
 * 17:06:41: Bokya 54: that's true Trksh my favorite to
 * 17:06:50: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i like Sheogorath too
 * 17:07:22: Bokya 54: lets talk about the most hated person in whiterun Nazzem
 * 17:07:32: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: Nazeem is annoying as fuck
 * 17:07:54: Trksh: Off..
 * 17:07:56: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i'm a thane. so yes, i get to the cloud district often.
 * 17:08:02: Trksh: I catapulted him with the bridge thing in the bandit castle
 * 17:08:10: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: nice
 * 17:08:11: Bokya 54: I fus ro dah him into the cloud district
 * 17:08:26: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i usually just murder him in the streets
 * 17:08:42: Trksh: Stop right there you criminal scum!
 * 17:08:44: Bokya 54: me too with an arrow in his face
 * 17:09:28: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i often make a dead thrall out of him and take him to the giants to participate in their space program
 * 17:09:41: Bokya 54: that's funny
 * 17:09:47: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: yup
 * 17:10:18: Bokya 54: giants hit him in the sky when he is my dead thrall
 * 17:10:58: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: yup
 * 17:11:14: Bokya 54: wish you could have seen it
 * 17:11:35: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i've taken him to the giants myself, so i have seen it
 * 17:12:06: Bokya 54: cool did you know there is a way not to be dovahkin
 * 17:12:25: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: there isn't
 * 17:12:47: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: you won't discover it if you don't do the main quest, but you will still be dovahkiin
 * 17:13:42: Bokya 54: yes in special edition there is a mod called normal you can be just a man not the hero of skyrim but you can be the follower of him
 * 17:13:49: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: ah
 * 17:13:59: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i don't use mods
 * 17:14:16: Bokya 54: its really cool and fun
 * 17:14:39: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i don't have the special edition
 * 17:15:24: Bokya 54: alright nice to see you I am getting off im going to my girlfriends house peace
 * 17:15:32: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: bye
 * 17:20:37: Josetrujillo: mmm, i havent remember i have this open XD
 * 17:20:57: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i have that sometimes
 * 17:21:12: Josetrujillo: XD
 * 17:22:10: Josetrujillo: and what are you doing ashley?
 * 17:22:17: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: playing pokemon
 * 17:22:19: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: you?
 * 17:22:26: Josetrujillo: for strange as it sound
 * 17:22:38: Josetrujillo: hearing music for dont letting the headache affect
 * 17:22:50: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: music against a headache?
 * 17:22:54: Josetrujillo: yup
 * 17:22:57: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i don't think that works
 * 17:23:08: Josetrujillo: well
 * 17:23:15: Josetrujillo: for a while ago have worked
 * 17:23:16: Josetrujillo: brb
 * 17:23:19: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: when i have a headache, music is the last thing i want
 * 17:32:54: Josetrujillo: back
 * 17:33:04: Josetrujillo: well, for me it works XD
 * 17:33:24: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: keep doing it then
 * 17:33:35: Josetrujillo: yup
 * 17:33:36: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i'm not going to though
 * 17:33:53: Josetrujillo: and let me guess... moon/sun?
 * 17:34:12: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: yup
 * 17:34:14: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: moon
 * 17:34:34: Josetrujillo: meh
 * 17:34:48: Josetrujillo: some pokemon are reworked and another are just dumb XD
 * 17:34:58: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i'll admit, this gen isn't the best
 * 17:35:42: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: the plot is better than that of most pokemon games though
 * 17:35:57: Josetrujillo: the people have laugh at klefki have laught their ass off to the flower one
 * 17:36:36: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: which flower one?
 * 17:36:48: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: comfey?
 * 17:37:10: Josetrujillo: yup
 * 17:37:20: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: yeah, it's stupid
 * 17:38:14: Josetrujillo: but the more one its dugtrio
 * 17:38:30: Josetrujillo: dugtrio pantene XD
 * 17:41:00: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: yeah, i don't get why they needed to introduce alola forms
 * 17:41:12: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: it's just confusing
 * 17:41:36: Josetrujillo: its because they havent more idea
 * 17:41:45: Josetrujillo: so reciclying 1º gen pokemon
 * 17:42:09: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: now, when i see "the opponent is about to use marowak" i don't know whether i'm dealing with a ground-type or a ghost-fire type
 * 17:42:33: Josetrujillo: ground i think
 * 17:42:50: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: regular form is ground. alola form is fire-ghost
 * 17:42:50: Josetrujillo: wtf?
 * 17:42:58: Josetrujillo: fire?
 * 17:43:03: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: yes
 * 17:43:21: Josetrujillo: ...
 * 17:43:34: Josetrujillo: that's as stupid as the first time i heard about vegan meat
 * 17:44:01: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: vegan meat is blasphemy
 * 17:44:14: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: meat is supposed to contain meat
 * 17:44:22: Josetrujillo: yup
 * 17:44:32: Josetrujillo: since, you know, ITS MEAT
 * 17:44:38: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: exactly
 * 17:45:01: Josetrujillo: they have to thanks we arent in WH40K universe
 * 17:45:12: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: what's that?
 * 17:45:12: Josetrujillo: since they are burned for heresy
 * 17:45:20: Josetrujillo: Warhammer 40000
 * 17:45:24: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: oh
 * 17:45:37: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: people here were burned for heresy in the middle ages
 * 17:46:04: Josetrujillo: and on these days by some muslims...
 * 17:46:20: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: muslims don't burn people, they behead people
 * 17:46:36: Josetrujillo: ask the same to daesh
 * 17:47:09: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: daesh does not burn people
 * 17:47:29: Josetrujillo: they have done it
 * 17:47:43: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: they're more a fan of decapitations
 * 17:48:07: Josetrujillo: yup, its a traditional form of the coran for infidels...
 * 17:48:41: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: killing someone over what an ancient book says is stupid
 * 17:49:12: Josetrujillo: i dont care about it
 * 17:49:40: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: you don't care about killing?
 * 17:50:06: Josetrujillo: yup
 * 17:50:28: Josetrujillo: i care just about whites
 * 17:50:34: Josetrujillo: the next i dont care about
 * 17:50:39: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: that's racist
 * 17:50:54: Josetrujillo: and what?
 * 17:51:36: ShawnCognitionCP: Jose.
 * 17:51:43: ShawnCognitionCP: You are aware the Muslim world _is_ white, right?
 * 17:51:58: ShawnCognitionCP: Iraq, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia- primarily Caucasian.
 * 17:52:15: ShawnCognitionCP: Middle Easterners are Caucasian.
 * 17:52:46: Josetrujillo: by whites i mean europe whites
 * 17:54:07: ShawnCognitionCP: There is no real psychological or physical difference between Semitic whites and Aryan whites.
 * 17:54:34: Josetrujillo: and what?
 * 17:54:39: ShawnCognitionCP: Aryan whites evolved directly from them.
 * 17:54:56: ShawnCognitionCP: If you're going to pretend to be a white supremacist, at least know what the fuck you're talking about.
 * 17:55:05: Josetrujillo: ok
 * 17:56:19: ShawnCognitionCP: The only major difference is that they majorly follow the terroristic faith of Islam as opposed to the subhuman faith of Christianity.
 * 17:56:57: ShawnCognitionCP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0SrAimmJ_E
 * 17:56:59: KINMUNE: Honor  Rudolf Hess
 * 17:57:30: ShawnCognitionCP: It's retards vs retards, with you favoring one sect of retards over the other for a reason you can't justify past falsely claiming racism.
 * 17:58:22: ShawnCognitionCP: Ashley, this is nationalism, not racism.
 * 17:58:31: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: true
 * 17:58:35: ShawnCognitionCP: He specifically favors the members of a /location/, not the members of a /race/.
 * 17:58:54: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: when i said he was racist, i didn't know that yet though
 * 17:59:32: ShawnCognitionCP: Well, he did say he only cared about whites as opposed to another sect of whites.
 * 17:59:40: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: true
 * 18:00:03: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i can imagine some people wouldn't consider arabs white though
 * 18:00:13: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: as they look differently from european whites
 * 18:00:21: ShawnCognitionCP: Funny enough the name "hose" suggests he's equally as separated from Aryan whites as Semitic whites are.
 * 18:00:43: ShawnCognitionCP: Hose being a Jose joke.
 * 18:00:48: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: jose can mean he's from spain
 * 18:02:33: ShawnCognitionCP: Spain being directly beside the Semitic world and having plenty, and I mean plenty, of breeding between those ethnicities.
 * 18:02:49: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: spain undeniably being european whites
 * 18:03:30: ShawnCognitionCP: Except the lower 1/6th being classified almost strictly as Semitic whites.
 * 18:03:49: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: he never said he meant aryan whites
 * 18:03:57: ShawnCognitionCP: And you're missing out on a big portion of what he claims to be a part of- race mixing is a serious thing in European Nationalism.
 * 18:03:59: ShawnCognitionCP: Ashley.
 * 18:04:03: ShawnCognitionCP: European whites=Aryan whites
 * 18:04:31: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: European whites can mean whites hailing from europe
 * 18:04:57: ShawnCognitionCP: Christ.
 * 18:05:13: ShawnCognitionCP: http://imgur.com/a/9naRb
 * 18:05:30: ShawnCognitionCP: You see that faint blue all over Europe, from Scandinavia to Britain?
 * 18:05:33: ShawnCognitionCP: Aryan whites.
 * 18:05:57: ShawnCognitionCP: Aryan does not mean Scandinavian or blond hair and blue eyes. That's Nazi Aryanism.
 * 18:07:12: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i know it doesn't mean that
 * 18:21:03: KINMUNE: Hello there, Pelinal Whitestrake!
 * 18:21:09: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: hello
 * 18:21:15: Pelinal Whitestrake: Hi
 * 18:21:33: ShawnCognitionCP: Wannabe racist left already.
 * 18:21:40: Pelinal Whitestrake: I know
 * 18:21:53: Pelinal Whitestrake: It's sad that so many people believe such cancer tbh
 * 18:22:04: ShawnCognitionCP: muh blonde hair blue eyes aryan whites!!!!!
 * 18:22:16: Pelinal Whitestrake: You know what you should've done?
 * 18:22:27: ShawnCognitionCP: >I only care about white people, not those damned white people
 * 18:22:39: Pelinal Whitestrake: You should've given him a mention of that micronesian island tribe of ostensibly black people who all have blonde hair and blue eyes.
 * 18:22:49: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: racism is just a way for people who have achieved mothing to feel like they're superior
 * 18:22:54: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: nothing*
 * 18:23:18: ShawnCognitionCP: There's no denying different races are more prone to specific behaviors, that's basic statistics- but that's not a free pass to write off the majority of our species.
 * 18:23:19: Pelinal Whitestrake: Racism, as well as any type of discrimination, stems from an innate desire to feel unique and special, like you said.
 * 18:23:35: ShawnCognitionCP: We won't survive the century if we separate into different sects instead of working together.
 * 18:23:44: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: the idea that one's own race is inherently better is also stupid
 * 18:23:59: Pelinal Whitestrake: Race in the human species is an incredibly flawd idea, anyway.
 * 18:24:04: ShawnCognitionCP: wat
 * 18:24:12: ShawnCognitionCP: There are genuine physiological differences between races.
 * 18:24:15: ShawnCognitionCP: Bone structure being among them.
 * 18:24:19: Pelinal Whitestrake: Small ones.
 * 18:24:42: Pelinal Whitestrake: I believe it is more accurate to apply race to species with clearly different subtypes, such as dogs or cats.
 * 18:24:45: ShawnCognitionCP: The entire facial structure of Negroids being more elongated and deeper is small?
 * 18:24:53: Pelinal Whitestrake: Genetically, yes.
 * 18:24:55: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: there are racial difference among any species that exists in a large area
 * 18:25:20: ShawnCognitionCP: Genetically so, but I'm speaking purely by physiology.
 * 18:25:29: Pelinal Whitestrake: I'm not arguing against differences existing within the human race, but they are not sufficient to describe the human species in different races.
 * 18:25:58: ShawnCognitionCP: I say the only problem is when people start to think of "race" as "species".
 * 18:26:26: Pelinal Whitestrake: There are regional variations, such as differnet Mitchondrial DNA being common in specific regions as much as specific mutations are common in such regions, for example the Sickle Cell Disease mutation in western Africa.
 * 18:26:27: ShawnCognitionCP: As in "us" and "them" as opposed to "us with some variables".
 * 18:26:38: ShawnCognitionCP: Gotta dodge that Malaria
 * 18:27:05: ShawnCognitionCP: There's no excusing the fact certain races in certain environments are more prone to criminal behavior than others.
 * 18:27:25: Pelinal Whitestrake: There's no biological indicator for criminal behaviour.
 * 18:27:37: Pelinal Whitestrake: What you're speaking of is behaviour-specific.
 * 18:27:39: ShawnCognitionCP: I place the blame on subcultures.
 * 18:27:45: Pelinal Whitestrake: Yes.
 * 18:27:46: ShawnCognitionCP: Not actual genetic differences.
 * 18:27:51: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: absolutely
 * 18:28:06: Pelinal Whitestrake: A thought experiment would be to raise a white person in precisely the same conditions and methods that a black ghetto kid has to grow up in.
 * 18:28:15: ShawnCognitionCP: American Negroids are simply more likely to fall into the gangster/drugs/crime loving subculture.
 * 18:28:30: Pelinal Whitestrake: I can guarantee you that there's an extremely high chance that white person will fall into the same stereotype that many black people experience.
 * 18:29:04: ShawnCognitionCP: A big part also falls into that thought pattern I was talking about.
 * 18:29:20: ShawnCognitionCP: American Negroids also commonly find themselves in that subculture because we're a society separated by race.
 * 18:30:11: ShawnCognitionCP: We've applied an entire subculture to a race and it's been perpetuated more and more, often from American blacks onto American blacks.
 * 18:30:27: ShawnCognitionCP: It's almost a caste that is applied.
 * 18:31:04: Pelinal Whitestrake: Then it's arguable that race is a cultural construct rather than a biological truth, atleast in the case of man.
 * 18:31:14: Pelinal Whitestrake: inb4
 * 18:31:16: Pelinal Whitestrake: race is on a spectrum
 * 18:31:42: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: physical race is a biological truth. racial behaviour can be a social construct
 * 18:31:43: ShawnCognitionCP: It's not arguable it fully is, it's arguable the behaviorisms of race are, whilst the physical alterations aren't.
 * 18:31:46: ShawnCognitionCP: So, partially so.
 * 18:32:07: ShawnCognitionCP: AES, what political group would you say you belong to?
 * 18:32:18: Pelinal Whitestrake: I'm not satisfied with any standard group.
 * 18:32:29: Pelinal Whitestrake: I like to think I'm not on whatever political scale is common.
 * 18:32:44: ShawnCognitionCP: Nor am I, but list some ones you find the most agreeable.
 * 18:33:11: ShawnCognitionCP: Mine was equally as odd, having to merge Classical Fascism and Transhumanism, the latter of which being an inherently liberal ideology.
 * 18:33:30: Pelinal Whitestrake: What, exactly, do you regard as Classical Fascism?
 * 18:33:41: Pelinal Whitestrake: Because even Italian fascism had racial ideology firmly established.
 * 18:33:41: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i'm mostly liberal, though liberalism should not be taken to its extreme
 * 18:35:09: ShawnCognitionCP: Full control of industry and production, a single leader with a seat of advisers, the loss of the democratic voting system in favor of the highly educated selecting the most fit, and a strict, firm authoritarian grip on society.
 * 18:35:36: Pelinal Whitestrake: That's not fascism, that's an authoritanian autocracy.
 * 18:35:49: Pelinal Whitestrake: Fascism has an intense cult of personality and nationalism inherent to it.
 * 18:35:49: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: how do you prevent the highly educated from exclusively acting in their own interest though?
 * 18:36:24: Pelinal Whitestrake: Well, not an authoritanian autocracy. An authoritanian oligarchy or noocracy.
 * 18:36:35: ShawnCognitionCP: In my perfect world, all human variables will be removed and replaced by AI.
 * 18:37:04: ShawnCognitionCP: Once AI reaches the point where it can simulate and deduct the likelihood of results, I fully believe in and support AI leadership.
 * 18:37:08: Pelinal Whitestrake: Mankind becomes worthless the moment it is replaced by machine intellligence.
 * 18:37:17: ShawnCognitionCP: In your flawed opinion.
 * 18:37:29: ShawnCognitionCP: Life exists to spread life. Not to self-glorify.
 * 18:37:33: ShawnCognitionCP: We exist to live.
 * 18:37:35: ShawnCognitionCP: That's it.
 * 18:37:38: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: machine intelligence can support and enrich human lives
 * 18:37:46: Pelinal Whitestrake: I'm speaking replaced.
 * 18:37:52: ShawnCognitionCP: ...
 * 18:37:54: Pelinal Whitestrake: When there's no more human, only machine.
 * 18:37:56: ShawnCognitionCP: Posthumanism?
 * 18:38:02: Pelinal Whitestrake: Yes.
 * 18:38:06: ShawnCognitionCP: Both of us fully believe >turning people into machines<
 * 18:38:08: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: we won't be replaced if we do not program the ai to replace us
 * 18:38:35: Pelinal Whitestrake: I agree with enhancing the human condition, Shawn, but I am utterly convinced that the human mind must stay.
 * 18:38:40: ShawnCognitionCP: Human life can't "become" worthless, because there is no universal worth.
 * 18:38:50: ShawnCognitionCP: I believe fully in increasing human cognitive abilities.
 * 18:38:53: ShawnCognitionCP: In any way we can.
 * 18:38:57: ShawnCognitionCP: Altering it as we see fit.
 * 18:39:11: ShawnCognitionCP: Evolution being taken into our own hands is what I see as the one, final goal.
 * 18:39:19: Pelinal Whitestrake: Arguably you place worth into the human condition if you speak out for its mechanization, because otherwise you would effectively be a nihilist advocating on another ideology.
 * 18:39:24: Pelinal Whitestrake: Like I said.
 * 18:39:34: ShawnCognitionCP: >Universal worth<, not personal.
 * 18:39:47: ShawnCognitionCP: Should have said cosmic worth.
 * 18:39:49: Pelinal Whitestrake: Enhancing the human condition is something I am for, but the core must remain.
 * 18:40:00: ShawnCognitionCP: I disagree on that last part, as I said.
 * 18:40:10: Pelinal Whitestrake: Then that's posthumanism.
 * 18:40:29: ShawnCognitionCP: The main reason I advocate Transhumanism is because it's a step towards Posthumanism.
 * 18:40:48: ShawnCognitionCP: I believe in everything from augmentation to mind-uploading, and it fits perfectly.
 * 18:40:59: ShawnCognitionCP: That's where you must listen.
 * 18:41:15: ShawnCognitionCP: My love for humanity is not in the fact we're humans, it's that it's our species.
 * 18:41:27: ShawnCognitionCP: Even when we change that species as we see fit, it's because it's us.
 * 18:41:32: Pelinal Whitestrake: I do not quite understand your position, then.
 * 18:41:35: ShawnCognitionCP: The same way we evolved, they'll be the next products.
 * 18:41:40: Pelinal Whitestrake: You want to preserve mankind by making it non-human.
 * 18:41:59: ShawnCognitionCP: I want to save mankind so that it may take evolution into its own hands and alter itself as it sees fit.
 * 18:42:29: ShawnCognitionCP: Posthumans, having followed Homo Sapien Sapiens, will also have my undying love and loyalty.
 * 18:42:39: Pelinal Whitestrake: Being human is, for me, not a phenotypical feature of biology but a certain set of behavioural characteristics and attributes.
 * 18:42:56: Pelinal Whitestrake: The concept of posthumanity sets forth the fact that they are not just biologically not human, but also mentally.
 * 18:43:06: ShawnCognitionCP: Because it's still *us*, per say, just not this species. They came from us. It'll be like our common ancestor with Chimpanzees and other modern primates looking at what we are right now.
 * 18:43:07: Pelinal Whitestrake: The human race would be extinct not only in body but also in mind.
 * 18:43:18: ShawnCognitionCP: Yes, if only to have evolved into something better.
 * 18:43:27: Pelinal Whitestrake: Not something better.
 * 18:43:28: ShawnCognitionCP: Something more intelligent, something more strong, something more capable.
 * 18:43:36: Pelinal Whitestrake: Something different.
 * 18:43:40: ShawnCognitionCP: Better.
 * 18:43:52: ShawnCognitionCP: If it is more capable, how is that not better?
 * 18:43:55: ShawnCognitionCP: A direct improvement.
 * 18:43:58: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: ^
 * 18:44:08: Pelinal Whitestrake: Because being better is subjective.
 * 18:44:43: ShawnCognitionCP: Again, my loyalty lies not in Homo Sapien Sapiens alone, but our species and whatever we become.
 * 18:45:01: ShawnCognitionCP: The human version of "I like this more" is subjective. Better can be objective.
 * 18:45:05: Pelinal Whitestrake: Your species will be gone, and whatever it becomes will be too different to recognize the value in us,.
 * 18:45:18: ShawnCognitionCP: As seen with natural selection, which is better suited for a specific task.
 * 18:45:24: ShawnCognitionCP: In this case, the task being evolving and growing.
 * 18:45:33: ShawnCognitionCP: Thus, objectively better in that regard.
 * 18:45:56: Pelinal Whitestrake: Life has no task other than reproduction. Evolution is no system written down, it is an effect of natural selection, which by itself is merely a side effect of genetic damage.
 * 18:46:42: ShawnCognitionCP: Life has the task of completing its biological niche, but natural selection cuts out which don't deserve to do so.
 * 18:46:51: Pelinal Whitestrake: Life doesn't, no.
 * 18:47:01: Pelinal Whitestrake: Biological niches are occupied by specific species and not life in general.
 * 18:47:14: ShawnCognitionCP: Every single life form has a biological niche.
 * 18:47:18: Pelinal Whitestrake: And again, life doesn't actively adapt to niches as well as general ecology.
 * 18:47:22: ShawnCognitionCP: The biological niche includes reproduce.
 * 18:47:31: Pelinal Whitestrake: That's Linnean thought, and Linne' evolution theory has been proven wrong since 2 centuries.
 * 18:47:41: ShawnCognitionCP: It's not, it's basic biology and ecology.
 * 18:48:01: ShawnCognitionCP: Our biological niche- eat, sleep, defecate, urinate, reproduce, die.
 * 18:48:06: Pelinal Whitestrake: That's not a niche.
 * 18:48:22: ShawnCognitionCP: It's simply a list of the preselected things life needs to survive.
 * 18:48:36: Pelinal Whitestrake: A niche is a set of environmental conditions that sets forth the ideal opportunity for a fully adapted species to survive and thrive.
 * 18:48:40: ShawnCognitionCP: You're thinking niche as in "this animal specializes in eating small fruits, that's its niche".
 * 18:49:00: ShawnCognitionCP: "An ecological niche is the role and position a species has in its environment; how it meets its needs for food and shelter, how it survives, and how it reproduces. A species' niche includes all of its interactions with the biotic and abiotic factors of its environment."
 * 18:49:05: ShawnCognitionCP: >how it survives, how it reproduces
 * 18:49:10: ShawnCognitionCP: >how it meets its needs
 * 18:49:15: Pelinal Whitestrake: Yes.
 * 18:49:25: ShawnCognitionCP: A biological niche is what a life must accomplish to preserve its genes.
 * 18:49:29: Pelinal Whitestrake: It just happens to be the case that if a species has to survive in its Pessimum, it is not able to reproduce.
 * 18:49:39: Pelinal Whitestrake: A species may reproduce if it is in its Optimum, its biological niche.
 * 18:49:41: ShawnCognitionCP: Which, as we all know, is the major "goal" life is "programmed" for.
 * 18:50:22: Pelinal Whitestrake: Again, life is not progammed.
 * 18:50:36: ShawnCognitionCP: >>>>>>>"programmed"
 * 18:50:44: ShawnCognitionCP: Quotations.
 * 18:50:56: Pelinal Whitestrake: Being progammed assumes that there is an outside hand that has a plan and programs to set it in motion, a deeply creationistic thought.
 * 18:51:11: Pelinal Whitestrake: Even in quotations that thought is plain and simply wrong.
 * 18:51:14: ShawnCognitionCP: Meaning the fact life has preselected goals that it will constantly work towards either consciously or subconsciously.
 * 18:51:27: Pelinal Whitestrake: Again, life has no goal.
 * 18:51:29: ShawnCognitionCP: That's definition 1.
 * 18:51:46: Pelinal Whitestrake: There is no allel, nor chromosome, nor epigenetic condition that has the specific goal of "reproduce".
 * 18:51:54: ShawnCognitionCP: Definition 2 is to simply arrange according to plan, which the brain certainly does arrange behavior specifically to reproduce.
 * 18:52:00: ShawnCognitionCP: ....every single one
 * 18:52:18: Pelinal Whitestrake: I can tell you how the desire of reproduction has come to be evolutionarily.
 * 18:52:18: ShawnCognitionCP: Every single one has "reproduce" as the ultimate goal.
 * 18:52:20: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: some brains fuck that up though
 * 18:52:48: ShawnCognitionCP: Partially.
 * 18:53:01: ShawnCognitionCP: Your drive to reproduce is fucked by being a homosexual, but not your capability.
 * 18:53:08: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: yup
 * 18:53:40: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: my brain does not seem to understand that fucking a girl won't make me pregnant
 * 18:53:43: Pelinal Whitestrake: The desire of reproduction has come to be by natural selection, because these that did not have the desire were extremely unlikely to reproduce (and thus let that trait be inherited by future generations), while these that did had an extremely high chance to reproduce - in term meaning that the likelihood of the specific trait causing the will for reproduction being inherited by future generation is extremely high.
 * 18:54:25: ShawnCognitionCP: Even single celled life lives specifically to reproduce.
 * 18:54:46: ShawnCognitionCP: If there was ever said to be a "meaning" to life (autistic question), it'd certainly be reproduction.
 * 18:55:28: Pelinal Whitestrake: ...I just explained why that is the case.
 * 18:55:32: ShawnCognitionCP: Reproduction/preservation of genetic material is a drive present in life's very core. The very first, and most simply of life even had that as a goal.
 * 18:55:38: ShawnCognitionCP: In fact, as *the* goal.
 * 18:55:41: Pelinal Whitestrake: No, it's not.
 * 18:55:47: ShawnCognitionCP: They'd have done nothing but reproduce and mutate.
 * 18:56:00: Pelinal Whitestrake: Again, there is no goal to life. It's a self-replicating mechanism.
 * 18:56:22: ShawnCognitionCP: A goal is anything that is set to be accomplished or driven to be so.
 * 18:56:22: Pelinal Whitestrake: That's like saying that the goal to supernovas is supplying the universe with heavier elements.
 * 18:56:37: Pelinal Whitestrake: Set by something with the ability to set a goal, yes.
 * 18:56:40: ShawnCognitionCP: You're taking "goal" to mean a conscious effort.
 * 18:56:43: Pelinal Whitestrake: Anything with a decision making system.
 * 18:56:55: Pelinal Whitestrake: Genetics don't have such a system.
 * 18:57:12: Pelinal Whitestrake: Also.
 * 18:58:19: ShawnCognitionCP: The reproduction drive itself is a non-conscious effort towards one thing- preservation of genetic material. If the very first life didn't do just that *without any cognition, simply as how life is lived*, there would be no other life in the universe, period.
 * 18:58:30: ShawnCognitionCP: Even viruses exist purely to reproduce.
 * 18:58:40: Pelinal Whitestrake: Preservation of genetic material is not the goal either.
 * 18:59:04: ShawnCognitionCP: It's the ultima.
 * 18:59:11: Pelinal Whitestrake: If anything, epigenetic mechanisms of genetics suggest that the """"""""""""""""""""""""goal"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" of genetics is to constantly change.
 * 18:59:36: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: don't spam quotation marks
 * 18:59:42: Pelinal Whitestrake: Sorry.
 * 18:59:58: ShawnCognitionCP: ....
 * 19:00:04: ShawnCognitionCP: "Reproduce and mutate"
 * 19:00:07: ShawnCognitionCP: "Mutate"
 * 19:00:44: ShawnCognitionCP: Reproduction being the stage-setter of alterations in genes, and what makes reproduction possible.
 * 19:01:07: Pelinal Whitestrake: "Reproduction makes reproduction possible"
 * 19:01:19: ShawnCognitionCP: So if the "*/goal/*" is for genetics to change, it must be preceded by the "*/goal/*" of reproduction.
 * 19:01:24: ShawnCognitionCP: mutation*
 * 19:01:28: ShawnCognitionCP: You knew what I meant.
 * 19:01:29: Pelinal Whitestrake: Nope.
 * 19:01:31: ShawnCognitionCP: Evoltuion*
 * 19:01:36: ShawnCognitionCP: Evolution*
 * 19:01:38: ShawnCognitionCP: Fuck my fingers.
 * 19:01:46: Pelinal Whitestrake: Epigenetic mechanisms allow sufficient generegulatory changes in fully developed subjects.
 * 19:02:11: ShawnCognitionCP: Outdone by the means of reproduction.
 * 19:02:22: ShawnCognitionCP: There's a reason every single life form reproduces.
 * 19:02:23: Pelinal Whitestrake: As a matter of fact, no.
 * 19:02:46: Pelinal Whitestrake: Epigenetic mechanisms, in particular the methylization of DNA, has to be carried over to newly synthesized DNA.
 * 19:03:19: Pelinal Whitestrake: That is a process where spontaneous changes in generegulatory behaviour can happen, for example a couple of extra methylizations or demethylizations.
 * 19:04:08: ShawnCognitionCP: Call me when life abandons reproduction as the ultima that all life pushes towards aggressively, and it is replaced by any other endgame.
 * 19:04:22: Pelinal Whitestrake: Humans can and do abandon it.
 * 19:04:46: Pelinal Whitestrake: Gay people, lesbian people, transgender people, asexual people.
 * 19:04:47: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: some do
 * 19:04:56: ShawnCognitionCP: As a result of sentience and sapience overplaying instinct and the rules of nature.
 * 19:05:00: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: the drive to have sex is still there though
 * 19:05:09: Pelinal Whitestrake: Homosexuality is possible in species other than humans, too.
 * 19:05:15: ShawnCognitionCP: The libido itself exists specifically to push towards reproduction.
 * 19:05:24: ShawnCognitionCP: Yes, and each one is a disorder from the natural order.
 * 19:05:39: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: homosexuality is a fuck up on mother nature's part
 * 19:05:44: Pelinal Whitestrake: Libido is an evolutionary development to make reproduction more attractive to progressively more cognitively advanced organisms.
 * 19:05:53: ShawnCognitionCP: Yes.
 * 19:05:59: Pelinal Whitestrake: Homosexuality is likely a combination of certain genetic traits and behaviour.
 * 19:06:00: ShawnCognitionCP: because all life pushes towards reproduction as the ultima
 * 19:06:19: ShawnCognitionCP: Homosexuality can also be the result of hormonal imbalance as a fetus, as with transgenderism.
 * 19:06:20: Pelinal Whitestrake: Again, life pushes towards nothing.
 * 19:06:26: ShawnCognitionCP: Yes, it does.
 * 19:06:29: ShawnCognitionCP: It's called instinct.
 * 19:06:31: Pelinal Whitestrake: It's simply an innate part of the nature of self-replicating molecules.
 * 19:06:32: ShawnCognitionCP: Getting hungry?
 * 19:06:35: Pelinal Whitestrake: Instinct is behaviour.
 * 19:06:39: ShawnCognitionCP: Pushing towards eating, because your body needs it.
 * 19:07:05: ShawnCognitionCP: Life pushes towards two things in every case; Sustaining itself and reproduction.
 * 19:07:25: Pelinal Whitestrake: One thing I notice with many people is that behavioural concepts are applied to genetics, which function strictly without any cognitive or subcognitive behaviour.
 * 19:07:40: Pelinal Whitestrake: Genetics is really just advanced molecular chemistry.
 * 19:08:12: Pelinal Whitestrake: Brown's molecular movement is responsible for, I'll guess, 75% of all genetic mechanisms.
 * 19:08:28: ShawnCognitionCP: You misunderstood.
 * 19:09:26: ShawnCognitionCP: Saying "life exists to reproduce and preserve genes" as an objective statement that all life has a drive to reproduce and that each and every facet of biological nature relies on this one thing, is different from saying it's a conscious effort.
 * 19:09:34: ShawnCognitionCP: Which I specifically detailed no less than three times.
 * 19:10:14: Pelinal Whitestrake: The wording remains off.
 * 19:10:37: Pelinal Whitestrake: /Life/ does not exist to reproduce, /Genetics/ have self-reprudction as an innate part of their own mechanism.
 * 19:10:45: Pelinal Whitestrake: It's not a goal, it's an attribute.
 * 19:10:50: ShawnCognitionCP: Ashley, were you able to understand my point throughout this?
 * 19:11:01: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: mostly
 * 19:11:01: ShawnCognitionCP: Again, a goal can be said to be any desired milestone.
 * 19:11:05: Pelinal Whitestrake: Genetics can do no different than reproduce (other than if they are damaged).
 * 19:11:10: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: can't say i've read everything
 * 19:11:11: ShawnCognitionCP: Exactly.
 * 19:11:20: Pelinal Whitestrake: That does not make it a goal.
 * 19:11:40: ShawnCognitionCP: Now we just have to find life that has absolutely no genes and the point that it /doesn't/ exist to reproduce as a whole will have sustenance.
 * 19:12:32: Pelinal Whitestrake: Life reproduces, but that does not mean our nucleinbases have a set goal for a refined and perfect species.
 * 19:12:40: Pelinal Whitestrake: Otherwise, Evolution would've gone much, much faster.
 * 19:13:05: Pelinal Whitestrake: In fact.
 * 19:13:14: ShawnCognitionCP: Genetics being able to do nothing but reproduce is just another wording of "exists to reproduce".
 * 19:13:18: Pelinal Whitestrake: Genetics are at their very core faulty.
 * 19:13:29: ShawnCognitionCP: A lot about life is faulty.
 * 19:13:39: ShawnCognitionCP: >let me just eat and breathe through the same tube
 * 19:13:51: ShawnCognitionCP: >let me put these eyes in a completely disadvantageous position
 * 19:13:58: Pelinal Whitestrake: With 4 nucleinbases - Adenine, Thymine, Guanine and Cytosine - and three nucleinbases per allel, there is a total of 64 possible nucleinbase combinations.
 * 19:14:07: Pelinal Whitestrake: That is with only 20 encodable aminoacids.
 * 19:14:17: ShawnCognitionCP: >let me put you in a state of shock so you can't put out the fire you're getting killed by that you could easily put out if you weren't in shock
 * 19:14:21: Pelinal Whitestrake: That means the genetic code is degenerated, as more than one combination exists for an aminoacid.
 * 19:15:09: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: evolution strives for survival, not perfection
 * 19:15:46: Pelinal Whitestrake: False.
 * 19:16:00: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: it's not a conscious force and thus cannot accurately determine what is best
 * 19:16:13: ShawnCognitionCP: Those best suited simply happen to survive and pass on genes.
 * 19:16:20: Pelinal Whitestrake: Evolution strives for nothing because Evolution is a description of an effect a natural mechanism has, not a proper integrated system in the Universe like, say, Quantumelectrodynamics.
 * 19:16:20: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: ^
 * 19:16:21: ShawnCognitionCP: Evolution itself is simply the process of mutation, be it good or bad.
 * 19:16:23: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: blocked
 * 19:17:15: ShawnCognitionCP: >when she lets you quantum tunnel into her but the quantum chesire cat occurs and you're confused as to whether or not to consider it a threesome or a twosome
 * 19:17:30: Pelinal Whitestrake: hey
 * 19:17:41: Pelinal Whitestrake: the heisenberg uncertainty principle makes it perfectly viable for both to be the case
 * 19:17:47: Pelinal Whitestrake: 2.5some
 * 19:18:06: ShawnCognitionCP: I'll just take the stance of delayed information and opt for a 2.5some
 * 19:18:19: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: it can be both a twosome and a threesome as long as its not observed
 * 19:18:24: ShawnCognitionCP: With jokes like these I'm shocked either of us managed to have a woman interested in us.
 * 19:18:39: Pelinal Whitestrake: didndt you know shawn
 * 19:18:42: ShawnCognitionCP: No, Ash, we need someone to watch, or else the quantum mechanics simply may not play out
 * 19:18:44: Pelinal Whitestrake: science is on a spectrum nowadays
 * 19:18:52: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: true
 * 19:18:54: Pelinal Whitestrake: We need someone to collapse the wavefunction
 * 19:19:10: ShawnCognitionCP: Bill Nye the Spectrum Guy
 * 19:19:28: Pelinal Whitestrake: Bill Nye the Eugenics SJW Spectrum Guy
 * 19:20:11: Pelinal Whitestrake: https://i.imgur.com/mgUJXk1.png
 * 19:20:31: ShawnCognitionCP: I do support eugenics tho
 * 19:21:04: Pelinal Whitestrake: "Whites should not be allowed to have kids" - Bill Nye the Cuck Sellout Guy
 * 19:21:09: ShawnCognitionCP: Until science can correct specific disorders or conditions, those that have them simply should not reproduce if the genetic likelihood of them giving it to their children is high.
 * 19:21:24: ShawnCognitionCP: /That's/ obviously not what I meant.
 * 19:22:16: ShawnCognitionCP: Hey, with the topic at hand, the three of us are perfect examples of life not completing its finality.
 * 19:22:24: Pelinal Whitestrake: Not all genetic disorders mean the offspring could be of disuse in human society.
 * 19:22:43: ShawnCognitionCP: The multi-diagnosis eugenics supporter not having kids, the homosexual, the eternal virgin- we were sitting on the perfect example this whole time.
 * 19:22:47: Pelinal Whitestrake: I mean, Stepehen Hawking has ALS and he's probably the second biggest contributor to modern physics after Einstein.
 * 19:22:58: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: ideally, the direct offspring of people with the disorders should not reproduce either
 * 19:23:10: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: though i guess they wouldn't exist
 * 19:23:43: Pelinal Whitestrake: Disorders like Autism can also carry forth unbelievable mathematic geniuses.
 * 19:23:55: Pelinal Whitestrake: I know a guy who's probably autistic.
 * 19:24:01: Pelinal Whitestrake: He masturbates to busses.
 * 19:24:06: ShawnCognitionCP: Plenty of people with ASPD are of perfect use to society, doesn't mean I want to birth a lesser fuck-up pretty much prechosen to be a hyperviolent, abusive-
 * 19:24:07: ShawnCognitionCP: >busses
 * 19:24:11: ShawnCognitionCP: Lit
 * 19:24:21: Pelinal Whitestrake: And he's a mathematic genius.
 * 19:24:29: ShawnCognitionCP: I bet the pictures I sent you don't seem that bad now that you know you have a friend that touches himself to vehicles.
 * 19:24:53: Pelinal Whitestrake: No, seriously, I've visited him a couple of times and he has like 3 posters of the local public transportation map hanging in his room.
 * 19:25:05: ShawnCognitionCP: >you can't say either of us are geniuses but I can call this lesser that touches himself to busses a genius
 * 19:25:07: ShawnCognitionCP: I hate you.
 * 19:25:16: Pelinal Whitestrake: phaggot
 * 19:25:22: ShawnCognitionCP: Bacteriophaggot.
 * 19:25:36: Pelinal Whitestrake: My spirit animal is a bacteriophage
 * 19:25:43: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: weird behaviouisms don't always mean someone is unintelligent
 * 19:25:52: Pelinal Whitestrake: ^
 * 19:25:57: ShawnCognitionCP: Trust me
 * 19:25:58: ShawnCognitionCP: Aware
 * 19:25:59: ShawnCognitionCP: :^)
 * 19:26:09: Pelinal Whitestrake: why am i the only one here who isnt mentally ill
 * 19:26:34: ShawnCognitionCP: wow u homophonics u called homodexterity a mental illness
 * 19:26:44: Pelinal Whitestrake: o yeah
 * 19:26:50: Pelinal Whitestrake: i forgot sexuality is now on a spectrum
 * 19:27:06: Pelinal Whitestrake: Jokes aside, fuck demi-queer foxkin fuckheads
 * 19:27:23: ShawnCognitionCP: I support LGB, but I can not stand the "T" and beyond.
 * 19:27:33: ShawnCognitionCP: I disagree with the very core concept of anything else.
 * 19:27:50: Pelinal Whitestrake: Transsexuality is a method to cope with Gender Dysphoria, and that's what it should stay.
 * 19:27:59: ShawnCognitionCP: Homosexuality I am completely fine with, why do I care where some other fuck puts his dinker?
 * 19:28:04: ShawnCognitionCP: Precisely.
 * 19:28:26: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i have no problem with trannies, but i'm not using any pronouns other than "he" and "she"
 * 19:28:34: Pelinal Whitestrake: ^
 * 19:29:03: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: other than maybe "it" for people i despise
 * 19:29:12: Pelinal Whitestrake: Fucking hell, if I ever meet a deranged tranny IRL I'll be sure to use the /proper/ pronouns.
 * 19:29:18: Pelinal Whitestrake: The ones dictated by their chromosomes.
 * 19:29:51: Pelinal Whitestrake: I have nothing against Transsexuals who properly integrate themselvs into the gender they wish to assume, and I assume that such people also want to avoid rising any fuzz over their Transsexuality.
 * 19:30:06: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: ^
 * 19:30:10: Pelinal Whitestrake: But troons wanting me to call them "xe"? "Xhe"? Fuck them.
 * 19:30:13: ShawnCognitionCP: Given one single rule.
 * 19:30:18: ShawnCognitionCP: Tell your partner you are a fucking tranny.
 * 19:30:26: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: true
 * 19:30:32: Pelinal Whitestrake: Of course.
 * 19:30:39: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: things like that shouldn't be a secret in a relationship
 * 19:30:44: Nekyn Alb: Our lord Vivec is to be called ze
 * 19:30:45: ShawnCognitionCP: If I was about to pair with someone and they didn't tell me they were transexual, I'd be going to jail that night.
 * 19:31:12: Pelinal Whitestrake: stop oppressing our proud demi-queer transsexual god-kin vivec you fucking transmisogynistic cishet shitlord
 * 19:32:29: ShawnCognitionCP: There was a bitch here that came out as transexual and the day after removed the post from Facebook, changed their name back to the original, and never mentioned it again.
 * 19:32:33: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: vivec isn't a tranny though
 * 19:32:48: Pelinal Whitestrake: He's a hermaphrodite
 * 19:32:54: Pelinal Whitestrake: Who can get pregnant
 * 19:32:55: Pelinal Whitestrake: gg
 * 19:33:05: ShawnCognitionCP: And killed his children with his phallus.
 * 19:33:06: ShawnCognitionCP: Gg
 * 19:33:20: ShawnCognitionCP: And bit Molag Bal's cock to learn the secret of masturbation and achieving godhood.
 * 19:33:21: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: could be that person's account was hacked or something
 * 19:33:24: ShawnCognitionCP: Two birds one stone nigga
 * 19:33:27: Pelinal Whitestrake: Honestly, I'm like 99% sure that MK has masturbated to Vivec.
 * 19:33:43: ShawnCognitionCP: After learning that MK was a raging alcoholic, a lot makes sense.
 * 19:33:51: Pelinal Whitestrake: He's also a stoner fuck.
 * 19:33:58: ShawnCognitionCP: I did not know that.
 * 19:34:06: ShawnCognitionCP: >a stoner fuck
 * 19:34:10: ShawnCognitionCP: Lmfao
 * 19:34:13: Pelinal Whitestrake: He's posted a video on memospore of him being obviously stoned.
 * 19:34:17: ShawnCognitionCP: I fucking despise stereotypical stoners.
 * 19:34:19: ShawnCognitionCP: woah man
 * 19:34:22: ShawnCognitionCP: smok wed erryday
 * 19:34:26: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: so that's why everything he writes is incomprehensible
 * 19:34:30: ShawnCognitionCP: bob marley dude
 * 19:34:42: Pelinal Whitestrake: Ika summed it up perfectly a while ago.
 * 19:34:53: ShawnCognitionCP: I don't know, I pretty much wrote Tabula Rasa exclusively whilst high off my ass, and it turned out to be one of my biggest works.
 * 19:34:55: Pelinal Whitestrake: MK writes gibberish and lets it up to the reader to put anything meaningful behind it.
 * 19:35:27: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: ^
 * 19:35:59: ShawnCognitionCP: MK was a major influence on my own writing, so, we disagree, there.
 * 19:36:14: Pelinal Whitestrake: I like to think that C0DA was nothing more than a self-parody dealing with how fucking ridiculous fan-fictions can be, but I'm very sure he just wrote it while being high and wanking off to Vivec mpreg rule 34.
 * 19:37:10: ShawnCognitionCP: Shhhhh
 * 19:37:16: Nekyn Alb: The meaning is there tho. Like, all the religious and cultural references. And the copying
 * 19:38:00: ShawnCognitionCP: I like to think the character of Pelinal Whitestrake came to be after a bowl of kief and a cable broadcasting of Terminator 2.
 * 19:38:21: Pelinal Whitestrake: Pelinal was supposed to be gay for Morihaus. A centaur.
 * 19:38:31: Pelinal Whitestrake: Uh
 * 19:38:32: Pelinal Whitestrake: MInotaur
 * 19:38:44: ShawnCognitionCP: I know.
 * 19:39:02: Nekyn Alb: but then Mori had cow babys with Alessia
 * 19:39:25: ShawnCognitionCP: AES
 * 19:39:26: ShawnCognitionCP: Please
 * 19:39:26: ShawnCognitionCP: http://mutually.com/cringe/cringechannel/2017/05/13/depressing-cringe/8/
 * 19:39:34: Pelinal Whitestrake: no
 * 19:39:39: ShawnCognitionCP: Do it.
 * 19:40:08: Pelinal Whitestrake: no
 * 19:40:12: ShawnCognitionCP: Why?
 * 19:40:15: Pelinal Whitestrake: i do not want to contract severe autism
 * 19:40:33: Nekyn Alb: We should say "Wow, she's gorgeous!" to you, Shawn?
 * 19:40:36: ShawnCognitionCP: It's just some Facebook twink getting aggressively shot down by a girl he tried to hit on.
 * 19:40:47: ShawnCognitionCP: Yes, banigger.
 * 19:40:54: Pelinal Whitestrake: inb4 i become a leading neuroscientist whilst also beginning to believe in creationism
 * 19:41:14: ShawnCognitionCP: Creationism is absolutely retarded.
 * 19:41:23: ShawnCognitionCP: I don't associate with creationists. Period.
 * 19:41:32: ShawnCognitionCP: Nor anti-vaxxers, nor flat-Earthers.
 * 19:41:33: Pelinal Whitestrake: What's his name, Carson?
 * 19:41:40: ShawnCognitionCP: Ben Carson, yes.
 * 19:41:43: Pelinal Whitestrake: Nigga's a leading neuroscientist in the US and yet a creationist fucktard
 * 19:41:59: ShawnCognitionCP: I genuinely believe creationism should be an admittable disorder.
 * 19:42:19: Pelinal Whitestrake: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zyklon_B
 * 19:42:23: ShawnCognitionCP: ^
 * 19:42:32: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i don't think being brainwashed into believing something retarded can be called a disorder
 * 19:42:41: ShawnCognitionCP: Your people and my ancestors picked the wrong caste to gas in WW2.
 * 19:43:14: Pelinal Whitestrake: Hitler was nothign short of an autistic creationist though, honestly.
 * 19:43:16: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: you decend from nazis?
 * 19:43:29: Pelinal Whitestrake: Except he believed that entire retarded occultism fuckwadery from Himmler.
 * 19:43:40: ShawnCognitionCP: Germans, Ashley.
 * 19:43:44: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: oh
 * 19:44:22: ShawnCognitionCP: I come from Germany by five generations and Italy by three.
 * 19:44:23: Pelinal Whitestrake: Hitler believed that the fact he was the sole survivor amongst seven silblings meant he was chosen by god.
 * 19:44:35: ShawnCognitionCP: Mother's side game from Germany five generations ago if you count me as the fifth.
 * 19:44:45: ShawnCognitionCP: Father's came from Italy four, if you count me as the fourth.
 * 19:44:52: Pelinal Whitestrake: Then it's probable that you have bavarian ancestry.
 * 19:44:57: Pelinal Whitestrake: fucking untermensch
 * 19:45:16: ShawnCognitionCP: It's probable every German does.
 * 19:45:20: ShawnCognitionCP: Lesser mudblood.
 * 19:45:34: Pelinal Whitestrake: I'm roman tho
 * 19:45:36: Pelinal Whitestrake: and byzantine
 * 19:45:38: Pelinal Whitestrake: and carthaginian
 * 19:45:40: Pelinal Whitestrake: and arab
 * 19:45:42: Pelinal Whitestrake: and spanish
 * 19:45:43: Pelinal Whitestrake: and french
 * 19:45:44: Pelinal Whitestrake: and greek
 * 19:45:47: Pelinal Whitestrake: and german
 * 19:45:48: Pelinal Whitestrake: uh
 * 19:45:54: Nekyn Alb: fucking bavarians
 * 19:46:38: ShawnCognitionCP: AES, Nekyn, just be sure not to hum on your way to school.
 * 19:46:44: ShawnCognitionCP: You may accidentally hum a b-flat.
 * 19:46:51: ShawnCognitionCP: That's a note in Horst-Wessel Lied.
 * 19:46:57: ShawnCognitionCP: The Merkel Silencers will come for you.
 * 19:47:12: Pelinal Whitestrake: Except I could wear a swastika on my bag and get away for it if I say it's for educational purposes.
 * 19:47:14: Nekyn Alb: I only hum eunuch-songs
 * 19:47:21: Nekyn Alb: what's "AES"?
 * 19:47:37: ShawnCognitionCP: I could wear a swastika on my leg and get away with it because no one here is so autistic as to ban a symbol.
 * 19:47:41: Pelinal Whitestrake: A shitlord who used to frequent this chat.
 * 19:47:44: Pelinal Whitestrake: He was a rite cunt
 * 19:47:51: Nekyn Alb: Just turn the swastika a little and it's religious
 * 19:48:02: ShawnCognitionCP: Or leave it how it is.
 * 19:48:08: ShawnCognitionCP: Esoteric Hitlerism.
 * 19:48:17: Pelinal Whitestrake: *Himmlerism
 * 19:48:20: Pelinal Whitestrake: Himmler.
 * 19:48:23: ShawnCognitionCP: Sue Germany for infringing on your religious rites as an Esoteric Hitlerist.
 * 19:48:25: Pelinal Whitestrake: The 40s fuckboi par excellence.
 * 19:48:26: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: swastikas can't be banned bc they're a symbol in hinduism
 * 19:48:27: ShawnCognitionCP: Hitlerism is a thing.
 * 19:48:34: Nekyn Alb: lol
 * 19:48:34: ShawnCognitionCP: They actually see Hitler as the messiah.
 * 19:48:41: Pelinal Whitestrake: Shawn, that's called Autism.
 * 19:48:42: Nekyn Alb: but probably not allowed in Germany
 * 19:49:03: Nekyn Alb: you can ban the turned ones, Ash
 * 19:49:08: Nekyn Alb: which the Nazis used
 * 19:49:09: ShawnCognitionCP: Himmler is the most evil man of World War 2.
 * 19:49:27: ShawnCognitionCP: 1. Himmler
 * 19:49:37: Pelinal Whitestrake: Himmler cucked Hitler.
 * 19:50:02: ShawnCognitionCP: Shiro Ishi is special because he died rich and famous because the US gave him freedom in return for his research, and because he did a lot of it for fun.
 * 19:50:17: ShawnCognitionCP: Himmler at least *thought* he had a point.
 * 19:50:38: ShawnCognitionCP: Shiro didn't care. He just wanted to vivisect infants alive and strap people to poles to test flamethrowers on.
 * 19:50:50: ShawnCognitionCP: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shir%C5%8D_Ishii
 * 19:51:07: Pelinal Whitestrake: WW2 indeed was a fucked up time.
 * 19:51:22: ShawnCognitionCP: Ishi is so much worse than Mengele, but everyone remembers him instead because of that classic "Nazis take first stage".
 * 19:51:56: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: mengele was pretty damn fucked up too though
 * 19:51:58: Pelinal Whitestrake: https://i.gyazo.com/047105345dc08fe48c5977b87c1afb3d.png
 * 19:52:14: ShawnCognitionCP: No where near as bad as Ishi, Ash.
 * 19:52:15: ShawnCognitionCP: Ishii*
 * 19:52:18: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: true
 * 19:52:24: ShawnCognitionCP: Ishii made it a *point* to never once use any anesthetic.
 * 19:52:31: Pelinal Whitestrake: Shawn
 * 19:52:33: Pelinal Whitestrake: Watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rNV61Rpo-0
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 * 19:52:41: ShawnCognitionCP: He also had the Emperor's brother come to watch pregnant women be burnt alive whilst they ate and jested together.
 * 19:52:51: ShawnCognitionCP: And he got away with it all, without any punishment. He and his entire unit.
 * 19:53:32: ShawnCognitionCP: Shiro Ishii is akin to Peter Scully in the list of the worst people to ever live.
 * 19:53:37: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: thr crimes would not be repeated regardless of whether he was punished, and he had his uses
 * 19:54:08: ShawnCognitionCP: I agree with the US' choice to give him immunity in return for all of his research, it's just an anti-poetic end.
 * 19:54:15: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: true
 * 19:55:00: Pelinal Whitestrake: Goddammit
 * 19:55:11: ShawnCognitionCP: We could have become moralistic and have killed 12 people in return for hundreds upon hundreds, or we could have used those deaths to progress our biological warfare knowledge three decades.
 * 19:55:13: ShawnCognitionCP: The choice is simple.
 * 19:56:15: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: the US executed some to show that it doesn't tolerate such things, but they kept the most useful ones alive
 * 19:57:56: Pelinal Whitestrake: http://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/1.4979955
 * 19:58:58: ShawnCognitionCP: Going to go, now.
 * 19:59:02: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: bye
 * 19:59:05: ShawnCognitionCP: Bye.
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