Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-8248675-20130606043855/@comment-17114085-20140428005900

They weren't necessarily Hjatli's children you know. They are believed to be the children of Tiber Septim.

Also as I've said many times, Dragonblood isn't hereditary. The only Emperor that was a descendant of Tiber was Pelagius I. The other ones are descendants of Hjalti's brother.

Dragonblood is hereditary. Being Dragonborn isn't hereditary.

The Aurbis is Anuiel/Sithis

''Thus was born Sithis, who was the sum of all the limitations Anuiel would utilize to ponder himself. Anuiel, who was the soul of all things, therefore became many things, and this interplay was and is the Aurbis''

-The Monomyth

''As the process of subcreation continued, both Anu and Padhome awakened. For to see your antithesis is to finally awaken. Each gave birth to their souls, Auriel and Sithis, and these souls regarded the Aurbis each in their own part''

Vehk's Teachings (nevermind the Auriel, I'm pretty sure that was a typo on MK's part as putting Auriel in that position makes no sense, he probably means Anuiel)

I think I see where the problem is here with this argument,

I accidentally said this;

''They reflect the Enantiomorph made by Anuiel and Sithis, which resulted with the creation of something new (the Aurbis). ''

Replace Anuiel and Sithis with Anu and Padomay. The "something new" is Anuiel-Sithis (Aurbis).

Sorry my bad.

Let me show you what I mean


 * Anu                                        Padomay                                                                    Talos                                         Arctus

Soul of Anu (Anuiel)       Soul of Padomay (Sithis)                                                     Soul                                           Soul


 * Aurbis                                                                                                                   Tiber Septim
 * (Anuiel-Sithis)                                                                                                           (Talos-Arctus)

Ok now you are making sense. Anu and Padomay created the Aurbis, their overlap/penumbra is Aurbis. Aurbis is the Universe, The Void(Sithis, soul of Padomay) and Aetherius(Probably Anuiel, soul of Anu).

After writing basically three essays (the second one I actually had to write twice because I accidentally pressed the quote button on a comment after finish it, so four essays) in one day, I'm starting to feel like we should stop this argument.

Especially seeing as you seem to now agree with me on my original point.

Hjatli Early-Beard, Talos Stormcrown, and Tiber Septim are all different people.

PS: Taking the word of wiki pages is not a good idea... Are wiki especially, unfortunately.

Also that picture you linked is fan-art. I kind of agree but "people" isn't the right word for it. I'd say "different entities" is a better word for it. Since they are all Hjalti, with a few extra bits. But I still don't think that Zurin is a part of Tiber Septim is the same sense that Wulfarth is a part of General Talos or that they both are a part of the Underking. Since Tiber and him are independent from one another, which is unique when it comes to Oversouls(As far as we know).

As for both Wikis being wrong, that is highly unlikely. One wiki can have false information, for both to have the same false information without it ever being questioned it unlikely.

As for the picture, yeah I know. I wasn't using it as evidence I was using it to show you what I meant. The Penumbra/Overlap between Anu and Padomay is Aurbis

But yeah I am also tired of writing such long posts...