User blog comment:Pelinal Whitestrake/About Aka, Lorkhan and broken Windows/@comment-11345660-20140209010228/@comment-13446185-20140213184129

'Along with the aspects being similar. You dissaprove by saying just because I say it isn't true, doesn't mean its right. I agree, my theory is not absolute. But yours isn't either. Again, agree to disagree.'

No I was giving supporting evidence for why it is true, which allowed it to also be used as evidence.

Basically what you were saying was that you didn't think that there were any other gods that followed a difference similar to Tsun and Zenithar which made you think that they weren't related.

Then I gave you more examples of gods that support that aspects can vary, Zenithar and Tsun being one of them since there is evidence that counters your idea that Zenithar and Tsun aren't related (that being that there are other gods that have aspects varying in certain ways).

'Ugh, f***ing Dawn era and its inconsistent timeline. I blame Daggerfall for screwing up everything. I get the drift the writers didn't know which ending they wanted to make canon, so they just went with all of them, thereby screwing up the entire timeline for everything ever. '

How so? The timeline is stable while playing the game so what does it matter? All a Dragonbreak does is make multiple things happen at once instead of one.

'Why shouldn't I ask you why they split apart? If we answer this question with a viable answer, maybe I won't shrug at the shards theory. This is the question we should be aiming to answer, and once we figure it out, then we can focus on the details.'

Because it's not said why exactly they loved to self-reflect and it isn't really relevant to our argument either. We already know that they did split up and that they wanted to split up; knowing why exactly they split up isn't really that important. My best answer for you would be that they are very self-absorbed.

''Lorkhan had found the Aedric weakness. While each rebel was, by their nature, immeasurable, they were, through jealously and vanity, also separate from each other.''

-Sithis (Book)

'You know that other pantheons could have their own legends. The tales of Wullfarth could literally mean just Shor and Alduin rather than Akatosh.'

I've already told you why other Pantheons have there own legends.

The Nords think Shor is Lorkhan (though they aren't exactly the same thing); the Songs of Wulfharth are referring to the fights between Akatosh and Lorkhan in which Lorkhan was "killed"

"The Men dragged Lorkhan's body away and swore blood vengeance on the heirs of Auriel for all time."

-The Monomyth: Altmeri

Normal time began when the Convention ended; this was the very end of Lorkhan's life.

You have to admit that this is a very very strange coincidence.

'You didn't pay attention to what I said about Sheor did you? Literally a sentence of information. We need more than that. But, if you want a similarity, Lorkhan is kind of the source of all strife within Mundus. He brought about the destruction of the Aedra, the eventual creation of the mortla and all of their problems, so there's your similarity.'

No you really don't, hell I can describe Shezarr and Sheor in two words each: Shezarr=Good God; Sheor=Bad God.

LORKHAN IS NOT THE SAME AS SHEZARR.

Just because I make the very reasonable assumption to take nothing seriously until it provides proof does not make me have Sh*tty lore.

I wasn't referring to you I was referring to Bethesda; my point was that if every book in the lore wasn't supposed to be taken seriously then there is almost nothing to actually go by.

Obviously there are some books that might have a bias but the Monomyth is not one of them at all. The Monomyth is literally only included in the game to give a better background on creation and the duality of the Universe.

You cannot say the mortals are proof when you can't even proove that the Aedra were shards at all.

The mortals are the proof that Aedra can have aspects..

"He outlined a plan to create a soul for the Aurbis, a place where the aspects of aspects might even be allowed to self-reflect."

"So they created the Mundus, where their own aspects might live,"

"But this was a trick. As Lorkhan knew, this world contained more limitations than not and was therefore hardly a thing of Anu at all. Mundus was the House of Sithis. As their aspects began to die off, many of the et'Ada vanished completely."

"Each generation was weaker than the last, and soon there were Aldmer."

-The Monomyth

but without bringing up the Monomyth or something someone said in a book for once which may or may not even be true, can you proove that I am wrong?

-_- Do you consider anything to be lore?

'You are just completely ignoring the Dunmer aren't you? Azura, A DAEDRIC PRINCE, created their entire damn race! How is that not having a connection?'

Daedra can't create they can only change which is exactly what Azura f*cking did to the Chimer.

'And wasn't your theory founded on the power of mortal belief? If they believe in different things, and the Daedra have an extremely large following throughout Tamriel, why doesn't it affect the Daedra? '

I'VE EXPLAINED THIS TO YOU LIKE 20 TIMES! The Mortals do not have the power to do this because the mortals were not formed from parts of the Daedra. Daedra may interfere in mortal affairs from time to time but this does not mean they share a legitament ancestry to Daedra.

And you seem to forget that only the Elves were descended from the Aedra according to legend.

Now your just making sh*t up.

"Each generation was weaker than the last, and soon there were Aldmer. Darkness caved in. Lorkhan made armies out of the weakest souls and named them Men, and they brought Sithis into every quarter."

-The Monomyth: Altmeri

Even the Altmer confirm that Men were a descended from the gods; just that they had weaker souls.

'but for some of the bestial races like Khajjit, or other races like the Orsimer and Dunmer, they are tied to the events that went on with the Daedra. If an entire race being the result of a Daedra's actions isn't "Connected",'

Through change not creation

"When Nirni is filled with her children, take one of them and change them. Make the fastest, cleverest, most beautiful people, and call them Khajiit."

-Words of Clan Mother Ahnissi

When Trinimac was eaten by the Daedroth Prince Boethiah, and transformed in that foul god's insides, the Orcs were transformed as well.

-The True Nature of the Orcs

"And then, in that moment, all Chimer were changed into Dunmer, and our skins turned ashen and our eyes into fire."

-The Battle of Red Mountain

Saying change means your related is like saying that your related to a barber because they cut your hair.