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College Mage: Ferris wrote: Zippertrain85 wrote:

College Mage: Ferris wrote:

Zippertrain85 wrote:

College Mage: Ferris wrote:

Scout Trooper 164 wrote: The Stormcloaks don't like the Thalmor, and also, just because I don't like the Empire doesn't mean I'm using the propaganda. Oh I'm not suggesting you're using the propaganda, that's more of a comment towards the only other pro-stormcloak person in this discussion. The Empire hate the Thalmor just as much, and as the Imperial Soldiers will mention... But what the Empire likes to forget is that, they're the only reason the Dominion is IN skyrim! They had essentially won the great war, with the Dominion throwing everything they had at the Empire during the Battle of Red Ring... Not entierly true. While the WGC gave the Dominion the option to send Justicars in order to enforce the terms, they had no reason to go into Skyrim until after the Markarth Incident. Ulfric forcing the Empire to bend on the terms... I'm assuming you're basing this off of what Alvor said at the beginning in Riverwood. A lot of people say how this proves the the Empire was right, but it's a questionable claim. The Dominion as shown by the Towers Theory... I wasnt basing it entirely on Alvor's words, but they are as good as any. IF you believe the Towers theory (which is a rather large IF) it's hard to imagine why you would then side with the stormcloaks, as it's not only well known the Talos ban wasnt fully enforced till AFTER the Markarth Incident, but Ulfric was obviously brainwashed into becomeing an unknowing asset to the Thalmor. His whole uprising is the product of the Thalmor themselves. I totally understand why Ulfric is doing what he's doing and I can agree to a certain extent. He means well and is an honorable man, but he is not the right leader for Skyrim. And based only on the dialog of the Jarls put into power between the 2 factions, I trust Skyrim is in better hands while within the Empire.

It's not "well known" Alvor is the only person who says this, and as I explained it doesn't add up to the information we're told about the Thalmor's intentions, so it IS questionable if anything. How is Ulfric is an "asset" to the Thalmor? He is the only one in Skyrim, openly rejecting their rule and defending humanity, that's why I support him in saving Tamriel. I don't trust the Empire anymore, since I feel they're just acting as the Dominion's soldiers.