User talk:Atvelonis

Skyrim Map
Hello Atvelonis, on behalf of a Skyrim modification's wikia, I was wondering if we could use elderscrolls.wikia.com's interactive Skyrim map, on the page Map (Skyrim), to help our users find our dungeons and items. It would be extremely helpful, as we presently have images of sections of Skyrim's map with shaky, red lines made with microsoft paint. I do not know if you could deny/grant permission to us. We are open to agree on terms if necessary.

Thanks, CamelChip579208 (talk) 02:21, October 23, 2015 (UTC)

Policy Cat
Hey! Just wanted to point out that Forum Policy isn't in the policy category (I added it to the Site Policy's template because I can edit that). Also, shouldn't that be a Project: page rather than MediaWiki: ? -- { 03:56, October 23, 2015 (UTC) }
 * Sooo, it got pointed out to me why that was a mediawiki page after you moved it. If you go into the forums, and click the "Forum Policies/FAQ" button you'll see why. To fix that, you'll have to use template transclusion to put it on that page so it'll display when that button is clicked (i.e. ). I've checked what that redirect links to and it's all user talk pages and one forum discussion from 2013, but the redirect will have to go so the template can be used instead.
 * -- { 08:27, October 24, 2015 (UTC) }
 * The one you just redirected :P I've got the link above to what links to it.
 * -- { 19:58, October 24, 2015 (UTC) }

Magne Ge
It was I who originally removed them from the page. While the image description states that they were originally supposed to be included with the text, I have not found any evidence to back this up. Here is a link to the original text http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1339845-magne-ge-pantheon

They should be removed, in my opinion.

Dovahsebrom (talk) 01:05, October 25, 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes, C0DA should probably get a page that summarizes its plot. Not necessarily to acknowledge whether it was completely canon or not, but just because it is relevant to mention. This was originally the plan back when the OOG texts were just getting implemented on the wiki by Jimeee and I. However, neither of us really got around to actually creating the page because it was more helpful to just edit pages already on the wiki.


 * Landfall wasn't really a page I had ever wanted to be created. A wiki contributor had made the article (and CHIM) and it was full of glaring inaccuracies that needed to be fixed before people on other sites labeled it as another reason the wiki should be ostracized.


 * Dovahsebrom (talk) 03:37, October 25, 2015 (UTC)


 * Given that the Imperial Library hasn't documented the text, I feel that's a sign we should probably just leave the full text to the website created for it. The page for it should just give a summary for C0DA alongside related texts, probably a bit of background info too.


 * Dovahsebrom (talk) 00:48, October 26, 2015 (UTC)


 * I gotta agree with Dovah. The text is just way to cumbersome to read on a wiki, and apparently it will eventually have images that would need to be added somehow later. It would be much more useful to people to have a neutral pov synopsis of the text and themes. Wulfharth (talk) 16:58, October 26, 2015 (UTC)


 * The Imperial Library documented the text here. ☞ Rim < Talk 04:25, October 31, 2015 (UTC)

(←) It's not necessarily that I believe we should only include texts the Imperial Library has documented, it's that the Imperial Library more than likely hasn't documented it for a reason. The Imperial Library holds a lot of texts that you really can't find on many other sites, C0DA on the other hand, has an entire website dedicated to holding it and most people would expect you to just read it there. It is, plain and simply, the place where the text is meant to be read, and the Imperial Library realizes this.

Our wiki doesn't have the greatest reputation amongst the other communities. Though TIL texts were added most forthright to show people that our site recognizes the OOG lore and is willing to accept its information on our articles, I have seen posters that seem to believe we are trying to make these texts ours. For that reason, it's probably best that we don't include the full text, as to these people that only says 'come read C0DA on our site instead'.

Another point, no matter how long we make the lead about its inclusion, we are still attaching the entire piece to the wiki. C0DA is very disconnected from the lore, purposefully so. It was designed so that if a person didn't want it to be true, they could say that and that would be perfectly fine, and that's how we should treat it. We create a page that recognizes its existence, summarize its plot and purpose, add a link to it, and leave it at that. If it is done this way, I will hope the page Landfall gets deleted, because it is an extremely detached and unnecessary page that finds grounding only in OOG sources.

Dovahsebrom (talk) 20:49, October 26, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Editing
Hello,

I saw your offer for wiki editting. I am somewhat familiar with it as I run a small home brew D&D campaign wikia. I would be very interested in helping add more richness to the wiki, including more obscure and out of game lore. A little about myself: I am highly involved in the lore community. I spend every day on /r/teslore and the ES Lore Facebook group. I also spend a lot of time with more well known lore scholars on a more personal and tes related level, such as scourgicus (the writer of A Khajiit C0DA), IceFireWarden (echmer and lots of other stuff), Rotten Deadite, Mojonation, and the whole list of Selectives Postcast guys. I am very heavily involved in this deep lore community and would love to bring it to this wiki. Among many (not specifically the above mentioned) this wiki is generally viewed as a medocre source at best, and downright bad in some cases. I would absolutely love to help turn this around and help provide a better name for this wiki. More sources are always better. And of course, thanks for the good words.

Sothas (talk) 00:08, October 29, 2015 (UTC)Sothas

Re: Link Formatting
Hey Atv! Sorry, I didn't quite know about that. I'll try to take that into account in the future, (hopefully) I won't do that again. Thanks! The Crusader of Truth (talk) 12:44, October 29, 2015 (UTC)

Checking in on the Portable Infobox progress
Hello! I am a staff member at Wikia and I wanted to check in and see how the infobox conversions were going on your community. It looks like 32 infoboxes were converted so far but I noticed from this Insights list that there were still quite a few infoboxes left to convert. I was wondering if there was a timeline or plan in place between you and the other Admins to finish what was left.

Please let me know if there is something specifically you needed assistance with or any questions or concerns you and your community might have that is preventing or slowing the conversion progress. We are always here to help you if we can. Pinkachu ( talk ) 00:20, October 30, 2015 (UTC)

Azavorth Ban
Hey Atvelonis. Emperor Daniel contacted me on Steam today, wondering why Azavorth was banned under the basis that it was his sockpuppet. Here is the chat log from the conversation we had:

Could you re-evaluate into the case and check back with me? Thanks in advance. ☞ Rim < Talk 04:25, October 31, 2015 (UTC)


 * Daniel is saying Timeoin let him on, so ask him. ☞ Rim < Talk 16:41, November 1, 2015 (UTC)

Bethesda bug support line
Hey, this is mew from the chat.. About 5 days ago, you gave me the phone number for the Bethesda bug support line, or whatever it's dedicated to, and I can't remember it. Can you send me that again?

Mew2keegan (talk) 18:58, October 31, 2015 (UTC)mew2keegan

Spriggans in the Green
A physical copy of the book isn't in-game, no. However, it is mentioned by Aranias as having been written by her, during the Greenshade story arc. Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 20:21, November 1, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Reman Empire
Erfridder is just a longer way of spelling Ridder which is the dutch title equivalent to Knight. The reason I wrote it in is because that's the title the source uses in reference to Hrol, but it really wouldn't hurt anything if you just changed it to say knight instead.

Dovahsebrom (talk) 01:38, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

Re: ESO
Hey Atv,

I'll try and add some extra images the next couple of days to try and keep us on track, so don't worry. With regards to the error message, I would keep looking into it if I were you; there's a strong chance that this problem could persist even through a new router. Regardless, we all look forward to you having functioning internet!

Regards,

Bronkiin (talk) 14:05, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

Condensing the Timeline page
Hey Atvelonis, as you've probably noticed, the Timeline page is getting pretty big, and lags a lot when trying to edit it.

I think we should split it up into special "sub-pages". All the content would appear the same as it is now, it's just that we would have it broken up into special pages which you can specifically edit, like the code on the main page.

See: Timeline/Second Era. I've just created this page as an example of what we're going to do. All the content from the Second Era timeline has been copied here. We will then put a template or form of code onto the main Timeline page, so that when the page is normally viewed, all the content from the page is displayed. You may have noticed that the  heading is missing. This is so that on the main Second Era article, we can put the timeline events in a section called "Timeline".

We will be doing this for every modern era, probably the Merethic Era, and I'm not sure about the Dawn Era since that's pretty short. Contact Jarjar and/or Flightmare to see if they know how to do it. ☞ Rim < Talk 20:12, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

No More Edits, Adding or Work
I well not be doing anything on Elder Scrolls wiki. I am ending everything I do now before I make any enemies. I already have a lot of people that hate me on the Internet and other sites I don't want anymore.

X-Mutant the idiot (talk) November 7, 2015 (UtC)

Stopping
I need stop before everyone goes nice to nasty. I don't more want anyore people, sites or wiki's to thing that I'm being a jerk with the edits I make or thinks I do on the internet. No post made by me no things add by me is a good thing. If I do leave this wiki someone may wish to hurt me or wish me dead a lot of people on the internet wish that already and I don't want anymore of that.

So goodbye.

X-Mutant (talk) November 8, 2015 (UTC)

What I Mean
Other people on Transformers wiki, Scooby-Doo wiki, Villains wiki, Hero wiki, Marvel wiki, DC Comics wiki, Batman wiki, Nintendo wiki, Legend of Zelda wiki, X-Men wiki, Star Wars wiki, and Superhero wiki that have called me a jerk, that want to hurt me and wish for me to die. The list is a lot longer then what i'm nameing and it is not just wiki's but other sties as well.

I know you don't hate me.

X-Mutant  (talk) November 8, 2015 (UTC)

Fourth Legion
The page is fine. I tend to keep all historical information under a single history tab, with not too many extra tabs, but this is just a personal preference of what I believe looks more coherent.

Dovahsebrom (talk) 04:23, November 8, 2015 (UTC)

Vulkhel Guard Prison
Hey Atv,

I don't know if you have rollback rights, but I wasn't sure when any of our patrollers would be next online. If you can, can you restore Vulkhel Guard Prison to this version here ?

Regards,

Bronkiin (talk) 16:21, November 8, 2015 (UTC)


 * Don't worry, Star's just sorted it out! Bronkiin (talk) 17:12, November 8, 2015 (UTC)

The Truth
If I stayed a quiet person who never did anything and stayed way form people. I would not have people saying on Mario wiki, Spier-Man, Superman wiki, Looney Tunes wiki etc. You're edits are useless, nobody needs your work, your a jerk nobody wants, are you trying to be a jerk, you are a troll, are you a troll, you are a monster, hahaha die die die, now die, I hope you die, if they knew where I live or who I was they would hurt or beat me. Also on other sites to. I never should have changed or opened up. No one would have problems with me if I was still a shy person who seemed like he was invisible.

I know you are trying to help and that you don't have a problem with me.

P.S. I never lie.

X-Mutant (talk) November 8, 2015

Guild Resignation
Hi Atvelonis! I'm sorry to do this but I'd like to resign as Skyrim's Guild Master and from the guild as a whole. I'm sorry I couldn't be the guild master you wanted me to, but I just don't have the activity levels to justify such a position. I thought I would be able to spend more time here eventually, but my situation is only getting busier and unfortunately, I just have to take a break from the wiki as a whole as I'm spreading myself too thin, and I think I've forgotten why I started editing here in the first place. I'd recommend talking to Garry Damrau about Guild Master- they've been doing a great job across Skyrim articles while I was inactive :) -- { 02:42, November 9, 2015 (UTC) }

Interview thing
Hey, sorry for the lack of content recently. Real Life has been catching up. But I was going through the interview section on the main page to check for something when I noticed that the interviews for Shawn and the interview for RenzXVI/QueenFinelia were not there. This could be chalked up tothem not being in the interview category, but I do remember seeing them there (I think).

Madman97 (talk) 01:12, November 11, 2015 (UTC)

Guild Skyrim
Hello, Atvelonis.

I am PantheraTheKhajiit, and I would like to help contribute to the 'Guild Skyrim' Wiki Guild.

I hope that may be possible.

Thank You,

PantheraPantheraTheKhajiit (talk) 19:22, November 11, 2015 (UTC)

Warning
Gonna continue my troll rampage! Better start cleaning up after me!
 * And I just archive talk pages!!! 166.137.118.91 01:15, November 12, 2015 (UTC)

Reported issues to Wikia
Hey Atv,

As you may have seen, I've uploaded some more images this morning. There continued to be problems with the process, and one of them did give me an error message, telling me to report the issue to Wikia. I did so, citing everything we've encountered over the last 24 hours. On the plus side, the images themselves are still ending up on the Wiki; the actual process is just erratically glitched. No excuses, then! I'll let you know when I get a reply.

P.S. This is the error message: "Could not create directory "mwstore://swift-backend/elderscrolls/images/f/fb"."

Regards,

Bronkiin (talk) 12:22, November 12, 2015 (UTC)

Image removed
Excuse me, but explain why you removed my image and marked it as unused when it was in use on the Hircine page? Kaithaa (talk) 22:56, November 12, 2015 (UTC)

Portable Infoboxes
Hey!

Checking in again to see how the conversions are going. I can totally understand how life can get in the way of projects or things simply are forgotten. It's been a couple weeks since I stopped by and wanted to see if you had any questions or could possibly give us an idea as to when you or your community might have a chance to finish them up. Let us know if you need anything from us and I will pass your requests/concerns along. Thanks! Pinkachu ( talk ) 23:02, November 13, 2015 (UTC)

VIP
May I refer you here: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_Wiki:VIP. This has been up nearly 24 hours, now.

EDIT: That sounds rude; I love you really.

Bronkiin (talk) 18:43, November 14, 2015 (UTC)

Skyrim Guild update
Just as a reminder to all members, we've got quite a few ongoing projects in addition to many different tasks that could use your help, in particular expanding stubs (or removing the stub template if there's sufficient information). Also, users who aren't active in the guild after 2-3 months will need to be removed, just as a heads up. Anyways, enjoy the weekend and let me know if you have any questions or suggestions. --Shockstorm (talk) 23:45, November 14, 2015 (UTC)

Chat
You're needed. ShawnHowellsCP (talk) 18:47, November 16, 2015 (UTC)

Arena Infoboxes
Hey Atv! Hope you got a second.

I was editing some Arena Location infoboxes (aligning all of the = signs) and I noticed a lot of the Arena locations all have quite a few of unused slots, such as "sublocations" and "characters". I was wondering if you would want me to remove those parts of the infobox (which would help me finish the task a lot faster too) or leave them? I should be in chat if you want to just tell me there. Thanks, hope to get a reply from you soon! The Crusader of Truth (talk) 15:32, November 18, 2015 (UTC)

Edit: Forgot, I made an edit example for you here.

Hey, nice to meet youTuzin (talk) 01:36, November 19, 2015 (UTC)

Daggerfall Pages
Thanks for cleaning up my mess. The Boy Who Cried Godzilla (talk) 00:42, November 20, 2015 (UTC)

Details
Yo atve, could you gimme more details about that ? I could make it myself ^^ Emperor Jarjarkine (Talk) 21:02, November 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * A new staff template listing all staff members, meant mainly for use on staff profiles to list all current staff. Passed 6-0.

Years
Divad was the only son of Frandar Hunding, and was born late in Hunding's life (2396 in the old way of reckoning, probably about 1E 760 by the Tamrielic calendar)
 * Divad the Singer

Dovahsebrom (talk) 19:22, November 23, 2015 (UTC)

Elder Scrolls wiki vs. USEP
In trying to add information about quests in Daggerfall, I've been using the Unoficcial Elder Scrolls Pages for information on what other monsters can spawn in the quest other than wht I encountered and things of that nature, but I've run into a problem, many of the quest names do not match up and at least one quest had two pages for the two names. what would you ssuggest I do about that?The Boy Who Cried Godzilla (talk) 21:16, November 24, 2015 (UTC)

Create Article Templates
Hello Atvelonis!!

I was poking around the wiki and I saw some quest pages needed making to remove some redlinks. I soon noticed that quite a few of the templates that make a basic layout for new pages are "incorrect", in the sense that they aren't exactly how we're making them now.

Since then, I did quite a bit of work on some of the templates for making new pages, such as Template:Create article/book/Online as well as others, and a lot of the infobox stuff on the layouts should have the = signs aligned now. I'd recommend you check over it in case I made any mistakes.

Oh, and quite a few of the templates for making pages on MediaWiki:Newarticletext don't seem to quite do anything more than provide blank links, such as Template:Create article/enemies/Online and Template:Create article/clothing/Online. They're basically redlinks on the create page layout.

Thanks! Hope I helped out more than I broke pages... The Crusader of Truth (talk) 06:46, November 27, 2015 (UTC)


 * I forgot to tell you, I made every "Create Page" template that I could. Some of them, such as "Arena Book", I didn't make (Arena doesn't have books, at least, to my knowledge).

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User too Young
Hey, There was a user, User:Animal 123, who was in chat. She spammed a bit on [|this thread], and trolled and spammed a bit in chat. In addition, she admitted to being 10. When I told her she was too young, she immediately changed her opinion to 15. I talked to Renz and he agreed to a chat ban. just wanted you to know. Ottoman Hold (talk) 03:43, November 28, 2015 (UTC)


 * Hey Atv: Decided to come and drop a screenshot of the admitting-to-being-10 part. It should be here. Oh, and a quicker link to the Thread spam should be Thread:885430. Furthermore, every big of the situation that I could log should be on my link. Thanks!

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Redguard and News
Hey Atvelonis, I noticed that you added the Origins of Cyrus page and I wanted to let you know that I will be working on transporting all the images from here onto the wiki.

On the topic of Redguard, I found this image on the same archived website. I added it to the wiki as File:Redguard Logo.png, and figured you could use it for Redguard stubs via Template:Stub.

Also, regarding your "Elder Scrolls Games 60 - 75% off on Steam" blog post, I should tell you that I created a category called Category:Temporary News for news about sales and such. Essentially, how you use it is you add the category to any blog post of which it applies to, and when the topic has expired, you remove Category:News from it. This abolishes the need to delete temporary news posts once their time is up, and instead archive them where they can be found again. I probably should have told the admins earlier on, but it seems I forgot.

I will be discharged from the hospital in [likely] a few days and will return to my regular full-time status soon enough. Anyways, that's all. Have a nice morning/day/evening/night, depending on when you read this. ☞ Rim < Talk 06:36, November 30, 2015 (UTC)


 * Hey Atvelonis, I was discharged from the hospital yesterday and have returned to my regular active status. I've started working on adding Orsinium pages, and all the lore info that comes with it. I also wanted to let you know that I've added the photo "File:Aela Fires an Arrow.png" which I think should be put in the slider on the main page.


 * Cheers. ☞ Rim < Talk 00:19, December 5, 2015 (UTC)

Kirbride's Works
I'm glad you agree that they should be at least mentioned on this wiki. I've always been for the notice policy, much like Fallout, for example, treats Van Burnen.

Anyway, to the point. I was surprised to see C0DA was here, so I also added Republic of Hahd. But I'm not sure how we treat artwork and posters. More specifically, should this  be somehow included in the page.

Ikabite (talk) 17:28, November 30, 2015 (UTC)

Orsinium NPC Template
I have no idea who should I talk to about this, feel free to point me in the right direction for the future. But the Orsinium NPC template is broken. Instead of automatically adding the page to the usual "Game: Character" format, it adds it to "Orsinium Characters" category without the colon.

Ikabite (talk) 08:29, December 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * Talked to CoT and got it fixed, all's good.


 * Ikabite (talk) 16:01, December 1, 2015 (UTC)

Table
Hey Atvelonis,

In chat you asked me for a table. I'm not quite sure what you wanted, since you left before you told me, however, below is a basic table. Hope it helps out with what you're doing!

Hope this table helps out!!

Salam,
 * Oh, and, I noticed you working on Merchandise. I'm guessing that's what the table was for? I'm going to pop by and do a quick edit to the page, saw the Construction template and thought I should tell you.

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RE: Images
Hello. I replaced the images cropping with the correct size now, I think that was the problem. Check them out and tell me if we can remove the template or better look for another solution like describing the entire process. Thanks!

Sweetroll Scrolls (talk) 13:48, December 5, 2015 (UTC)

Swinging the Banhammer
You might have to make a few swings for those who are aching - User:Caulkfurr and User:BigGreenMemeMachine. I didn't revert the vandalism either, so if it hasn't been done till you're up, you can see affected pages in their contributions.

Ikabite (talk) 08:16, December 9, 2015 (UTC)

Incomplete
Template:Incomplete should be complete now. — Flightmare (talk) 23:20, December 12, 2015 (UTC)

Harmony spell
Harmony's a Master-level Illusion spell, which means that you have to finish the Illusion Ritual Spell to get it (and have 100 Illusion to start the quest in the first place), not just go buy it from Calcelmo or some other Court Wizard. The removal of the list of spell vendors was valid for this reason. Leea (talk) 12:41, December 13, 2015 (UTC)

Conversations in Morrowind
Hey Atvelonis, I saw your changes in the conversation section on Lette's article (I check my revisions from time to time to learn how I can improve my editing by looking at the changes others make). You hid the additional information. As I am adding a lot of dialogue I wondered whether I should do that, too, and whether you had some thoughts on the conversation sections in Morrowind generally (meaning, shoudl I change something about the way I structure the information?). Mondblueme (talk) 09:57, December 14, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Crown Store
I agree. I added a couple images to the Mounts section under Upcoming Content. Tell me how they look. If the layout looks OK then i will add the rest. Most of the discontinued items will probably will mot have images, as i have been unable to find images for them. The time i can devote to the wiki has been limited as of late, so i will only add a few at a time. One more thing. Can you ask Tim to add the Australian prices to the Crown Package price table. I sent him a message last week, but he didn't respond to my request. The Cat Master (talk) 15:36, December 14, 2015 (UTC)

Working on some userbox links
Hey Atv!

I was doing some work to userbox links today (taking a pause from the characters list) and I noticed that there was two male userboxes, "User-male", and "User-male". I changed all of the links to "User-Male" (which is the same format all the other userbox names use) and then moved the source from "male" to "Male". (Aka, I basically moved "male" to "Male" and then changed template links to match it.) However, there was one user who locked their profile... you. :P

I'm not going to change the "male" to delete (because then a huge notice would be in your userboxes), so once you change it to "User-Male" delete User:male please. If you need me to clarify, I should be in chat.

Thanks once again!