User blog comment:Draevan13/The streamlining of the Elder Scrolls series, and some Skyrim flaws./@comment-1600847-20121114020756/@comment-3492791-20121116054025

I see that i've had quite an effect on you. As such i'll make one final point, as further discussion seems to only be angering you.

You seem to have misunderstood my points, although i've tried to clarify. I never once said that you were wrong in your belief that Oblivion was a good game or that is was unique. I said that the most basic elements of Oblivion's plot and setting are things we've seen many times before, and after, in fantasy. What is basically medieval England, with demons from hell trying to take over the world. No amount of details about creatures can dispute the fact that at its heart, Oblivion is a premise we've seen many times before.

I also never once said that CoD was more complex than TES, I simply used it, as Joker had already choosen it, as a reference to disprove the legitamisy of your argument for Oblivion.

You said Oblivion was good because it got awards. Joker said that CoD got awards too.

You said Oblivion had a lot of fans and people that liked it, so it must be good. I said that CoD had a lot more fans.

You said that Oblivion had more effort put into it. I said that there is no way you could know how much effort was put into either game.

You said that Oblivion was a longer game. I said that was not a valid compassion, as the games are structured completely differently.

Point by point i've been discrediting your argument, but have said nothing about your opinions. For one that claims to have words being constantly put in their mouth, you've put plenty in mine. Your opinion is something that can't be disputed, as no one can tell you what you believe, and as such I never tried to. If you feel that Oblivion was a unique game you are wholly welcome to think that, I however stated that I thought otherwise and provided my reasons for saying as such. That is were opinion ended. Anything negative I said after that point was about the arguments you were using to assert your opinion, which I explained above why they were faulty. You've felt the need to defend yourself against comments not directed at you, and as such no doubt you believe i've been attacking you.

The argument was never about your opinion, or whether CoD was a better or more complex game. It was about the arguments you choose to use to say that Oblivion was a better game. I wholly agree that Oblivion was a significantly better game than any CoD i've ever played, and that CoD are in fact not very good games (Although I dislike them more for what they represent than actual gameplay), but I used it as a tool to show the flaws in your arguments.