Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-27007772-20140611204941/@comment-24075086-20150611212603

Ottoman Hold wrote: @College Mage:Ferris: I actually was not talking to you. You are doing everything right and have your facts straight. @Phantasys I can assure you that The Empire is not a waste of space. For one thing, no one really worships those gods anymore, at least those forms, especially The Empire, except for Akatosh. Btw, Skyrim's people worship Akatosh too, including the Stormcloaks. So that argument makes no sense, especially since even though Akatosh may be depicted as a dragon, I don't remember him being Alduin. I second Ferris in that The Dominion has a large force left. The Empire won one battle for the Imperial City. One. Battle. That doesn't mean the whole war. Hammerfell only defeated The Dominion because of they knew the climate, geography, and so on. Once again, One. Battle. The Dominion will certainly be able to go through The Empire to get to an independent Skyrim. Who says they won't be bitter for the loss, or don't want to anger a huge Dominion force after being weakened after another war. Once again, the signing was really the only option. They could otherwise get wiped out, or would have to get a worse treaty later. Not all elves are evil. As I recall, the Nords began fighting the snow elves from the beginning, which ultimately made The Dominion form. So, you hating on the elves is certainly not making your point seem very valid. Are you kidding me? The empire let the Dominion march through to Skyrim? LMAO well it'd be right in line with the other stupid things they've done. Conveniently the Dominion destroys much of the empire "carelessly" during their march to Skyrim too!

One battle, yes one battle that left the dominion with NO FORCES except the ones they have already tied up in Hammerfell. That is the cold truth right there. The dominion was essentially already defeated and even now the empire does have the strength to defeat the dominion. The only thing is, is that the empire at the time and still remains loosely held together without the leadership of the Septims and a requirement to protect Nirn from Oblivion, the empire would've won then but they woulen't have had the strength to keep all the province in line with force and the empire woudl've dissolved. The same scenario remains now as the empire can go to war with the dominion and win but choose not to so that when Cyrodil is fully recovered the empire will once again have the strength to forcibly control all of Tamriel.

What? The falmer have literally NOTHING to do with the dominion now. Where are you getting this stuff?

Also the "not all elves are evil" thing is irrelevant as it's not elves we have to worry about, it's the gods they worship. Many in Skyrim still pay homage to Shor and their orginal gods. It's very easy to imagine Skyrim undergoing a religious revival after their victory, especially since their war is religiously motivated.

@ College Mage Ferris

As for war plans with the Dominion it's very easy...wait for the dominion armies to destroy Cyrodil and then quickly strike while they're weakened. This way both great enemies are destroyed at once. The empire has no troops to spare to attack Skyrim after the revolution there. The legion sent to Skyrim is all they can spare with the rest at the south border watching Valenwood and Elswyer. The empire isn't a unified front, there is very clear infighting in the empire with Motierre's faction's coup and all. The moment Mede dies every last one of those nobles would be scambling for the throne, not making war plans against Skyrim. Cyrodil itself is barely able to hold together as even as late as right before Cicero's coming to the sanctuary in Skyrim there were riots large enough to cause problems for Dark Brotherhood operatives. The Empire is nearly mirroring the Roman Empire during its last days.

The Dominion won't be able to recruit any other nations because culturally the Dunmer and Altmer are polar opposites! The Dunmer hate the Altmer almost as much as Nords do, and the Altmer want to wipe out the Dunmer for worshiping Daedra. As for Hammerfell it's rather simple. Men and Mer in the ESverse hate each other. As seen in ESO the Bretons Redguards and Orcs banded together under the banner of "Men and Orcs have been slaves to elves before" and the general reaction was NEVER AGAIN! It doesn't even have to be an alliance, merely an invite to attack the western border of Altmeri Cyrodil once the Dominion finishes the empire off for us.

What most people don't understand is that the dominion might be the MAIN enemy but the Empire is definitely a close second because with the fall of the Dragonpact the world's starting to return back to the time before the Alessian Empire when gods can walk the earth with men and worship of Akatosh only lends strength to Auriel (the same guy that wants to unmake [read destroy] the world). Auriel WANTS the elves to win and genocide/enslave all men. Auriel is NOT in ANY WAY sympathetic to any problems of men and if given a chance WILL KILL ALL MEN! Make this perfectly clear in your heads: without the Dragonpact Akatosh is not real. Auriel is not Akatosh without the Amulet of Kings caging him inside Shor's power. HE.IS.YOUR...ENEMY!