User blog comment:Pelinal Whitestrake/About Aka, Lorkhan and broken Windows/@comment-11345660-20140209010228/@comment-13446185-20140212033403

The Nords worship Akatosh much like the Cyrodilic pantheon does,

Yah, maybe after the Empire had controlled Skyrim for thousands of years. Akatosh is Cyrodiilic, Alduin is Nordic; most nords worship the Nine Divines now but obviously still aknowledge their own traditional pantheon. Pantheons mirror each other when it comes to Akatosh and Lorkhan, Alduin is equal to Akatosh, is equal to Auri-El, is equal to Alkosh and so on... I don't understand why this is so hard for you to believe.

'and treat Alduin as the god of destruction, far from the benevolent behavior of Akatosh. Akatosh uses Martin's body to save Tamriel in Oblivion but comes back a few hundred years later to conquer it for dragons?'

So what? They are different gods, as I said before, aspects vary.

'...Yes, I am aware that Dibella's name is Dibella. I am just saying that Dibella was unique to Nordic tradition before being implemented into the Divines.'

The Nine Divines is a melting pot of Nordic and Elven pantheons. Whether or not Dibella was unique to the Nordic Pantheon is kind of irrelevant.

'Onto Zenithar. Where is Zenithar than if he is bound to the mortal realm? In that guy from Morrowind? What proof do you have of his divinity? Where in the game does it say Zenithar is bound to Nirn? In game source please. We can't forget the evidence. Proove Zenithar has to stay on Nirn. Please.'

"Aedra created the mortal world and are bound to the Earth Bones"

-Aedra and Daedra

"The spirits that were left pleaded with Tall Papa to take them back. But grim Ruptga would not,"

"Auriel pleaded with Anu to take them back,"

"Aldmer, with the exception of the Dark Elves, see this act as a cruel deception, a trick that sundered their connection to the spirit plane."

-The Monomyth

'Alduin isn't even a god. He is a power hungry dragon that uses propaganda and the interpretation of Akatosh as a dragon to spur his bretheren into supporting his claim for Tamriel.'

"Shor's own ghost then fought the Time-Eater on the spirit plane, as he did at the beginning of time, and he won,"

-Five Songs of King Wulfharth

Alduin is the opposite force to Shor, he is a god.

'Shezzar and Shor remain largely the same. Both have a hand in making mankind, and both have Lorkhany aspects.'

-_- Look again, I said Sheor not Shor, they are different gods. Sheor is a Bretonic aspect of Lorkhan who is a god of bad luck and trickery, while Shezarr is a Cyrodiilic aspect who represents all human undertaking.

Another one of my points you have ignored is that Tsun couldn't be Zenithar based on this evidence because they have practically nothing in common, as neither do Alduin and Akatosh, besides the fact Akatosh is depicted as a dragon.

No, you've just been ignoring my evidence. I've told you multiple times that aspects don't need to be completely similar.

'Oh, on with this mortal belief stuff. I think many people attribute too much power to simply what Humans think of Aedra.'

"As he entered every aspect of Anuiel, Lorkhan would plant an idea that was almost wholly based on limitation. He outlined a plan to create a soul for the Aurbis, a place where the aspects of aspects might even be allowed to self-reflect."

"But this was a trick. As Lorkhan knew, this world contained more limitations than not and was therefore hardly a thing of Anu at all. Mundus was the House of Sithis. As their aspects began to die off, many of the et'Ada vanished completely.

''Some had to marry and make children just to last. Each generation was weaker than the last, and soon there were Aldmer."''

-The Monomyth

(Evidence that mortals are descended from Aedra)

'And the assumption that the Daedra have nothing to do with mortals is an outright falsehood. Daedra have had many dealings with mortals, Azura turning the Chimer into Dunmer for one, essentially tying that peoples existence to the Daedra. I don't see any of their beliefs changing anything.'

I'm disapointed in you Madman... I hope you realize there is a reason Daedra means NOT OUR ANCESTORS; *hint* because they have no relation to mortals (Everyone knows that the Daedra did not help the creation of Mundus; that's why they are called DAEDRA). This does not mean Daedra haven't dealt in mortal affairs.

If your logic is to be believed, this disproves your theory that mortal belief can change the god.

Well your proof appears flawed to me.