Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-97.81.240.58-20130603234626/@comment-10744533-20130625032955

William slattery wrote: No. Talos earned his godhood and even the other Divines call themselves the Nine. Ulfric is a worthy leader willing to fight and die with honor to prevent religious persecution. The Thalmor are Nazis who believe in pure blood and discriminate against humans and even other elves they view as inferior. They persecute against religion and race and would prefer genocide during another war they may be planning on despite their treaty (a treaty only used to keep people subserviant). The Thalmor are never right and the Imperials are almost as bad for rolling over to their regime (taking slavery over the death of honorable warriors). Long live Ulfric Stormcloak and Talos be with you! ....Sorry about the rant. Short answer= NO. The empire would of been crushed would the White-Gold Concordat not be signed, do you not realise what would of happen to all the other provinces shall the empire fall? Considering all of tamriel was part of the empire, and had their politics, economy and war power because they were part of the empire, they would all be left weak and in mayhem... the aldmeri domonion would just conquer them one after another...think about, if the empire as one was not able to defeat the dominion, then how do you think the individual provinces would of have a stand in it alone? Not to mention that the empire didnt became the thalmor's allies over night, as General Tullius says "Not sure how longer our peace with the dominion will last" The empire is probably only regaining its power and rebuilding its army to then strike the elves again...its a proof of having a stronger will, instead of giving up life like nords do. More over, ulfric dosent seem to care for the life of anyone who isnt nord, and why is that? Isnt he fighting against the Altmers in the name of those that the altmers hurt? And how exactly is he a fine leader when he murdered the High King without allowing the high king the chance for a fair duel, he used his voice. How do you call it fair combat to use a power against somebody that dosent have it, and turn a wife into a widow without even thinking about the consequences... his hatred for the empire and thirst for the throne was longer before the thalmor forbid the worship of talos... he used it for a reasson to gather the confued people of skyrim to fight under his banner... Can you not notice the living conditions of windhelm and the cities under his control? With thieves and criminals runing free to kill whoever they want? Not to mention that his civil war is helping the thalmor as mentioned inside the information about ulfric stormcloak found in the thalmor embassy. If he's killed, during the end quest of the main story line, his soul in sovngarde realises that his actions hurted skyrim a lot and he's regreting it.