Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-30011802-20170217032502/@comment-26893431-20170326134211

ZhugeQuanqiang wrote: Blademaster Jauffre wrote: Allright, stop with the hypocrisy. Anytime I adress you, you act as if it's some kind of war-crime and you get mad, but you keep adressing me. Either man up, and accept that it's not one-way traffic, or stop it.

Now, as far as spies go. There needs to be record with either their boss or the spies themselves. Until there is evidence that the Thalmor use spies against the Empire (we only have evidence of them using them against the Blades) they simply don't.

It's a possibility, not a fact. Elks eating grass, which is needed for their survival, is not the same as spies.

You mocked my Moon crashing into Nirn nonsense, but your deer-spy comparison is no different. Your Moon crashing into Nirn nonsense is a nonsense because it is not simply how things will normally turn out Moons circle a planet. In Elder Scrolls the Moons are bodies of Lorkhan that is up there for several thousands of years. It does not come down because it is how things work between the moons and Nirn. That is simply not how things work. I mock it because it deserves to be mocked. That is how dumb your comparison is while mine was made to show a point.

Things that just happens out of necessity.

My comparison is a different case. It is not a comparison. It is an example of how things work. Just like how a King can keep his country from falling into chaos or getting invaded by creating an army to protect the country from external threats and an internal security force to preserve order. After that, they'll need scouts and spies to learn about their enemies.

Spies for the Mede Empire and Aldmeri Dominion are a necessity in their current situation. I am not saying one side is absolutely demolishing the other or how their spies are faring against each other outside joking about the Elven Supremacy.

I am saying for spies, it isn't they don't have any because in their situation it is no longer an auxiliary or luxury, it is necessity. This is the case for both the Empire and Aldmeri Dominion.

The right way to say is: There is no information on how the spies for the two factions are doing right now to make a judgement. Who are you to say that the Moons can't crash into Nirn? The smaller of the moons orbits the bigger moon, not Mundus, if given enough time it will crash into Nirn, basic astronomy.

And? Until there's evidence of them owning them they simply don't. That's like me saying that South-Africa has a nuke, because it "could possibly have one", that's not how it works. You can say that it's possible, but don't force it down people's throat when you have nothing to back it up.

No, the statement is, as I said: Until we have records of spies there simply aren't spies.