Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-72.74.78.209-20141019230536/@comment-24679273-20141118133702

Harold Burned-Mane wrote:

Hank.j.Wimbleton wrote:

Harold Burned-Mane wrote: 1: They can go in, they just can't live inside.

2: He ignores the Dunmer, but he never treats them like shit.

3: Your point?

1.exacly ..not in the city walls

2.he doesnt talk about them like that but theres a guy that gives you a fetch quest where you need to get some stolen things from peolpe in skyrim that arent nords and he went to ulfric asking for assistance but he declined

3. he and tullius where acting like two cry babys whos toys got stolen...you know when theres a f*cking dragon saying that he will EAT THE WORLD (not literally but you get my point) 1. They can't live inside for their own safety, Brunwulf confirms this if he becomes the new Jarl of Windhelm. But like I said they can go inside the city, both Shahvee and Scouts-Many-Marshes can be found inside Windhelm during certain occasions.

2. I remember all the quests in Windhelm and there isn't one like you are describing. I even double checked, the only fetch quests in the city are from Oengul (a Nord), Shahvee (an Argonian) and Torbjorn (also a Nord). You might be talking about the quest in which Revyn Sadri (dunmer merchant) wants you to return the stolen ring back to Viola. If that isn't what you mean then I have no idea what you are talking about.

3. You do understand that there is a Civil War going on right? It may not seem like it in-game but the two factions are fighting each other brutally and pretty constantly. They aren't going to just drop everything, for fear the other faction would take advantage of the situation and attack them while they are busy with the dragons. Sure from an outside standpoint both Tullius and Ulfric are being stupid by not seeing the bigger threat but to them they can't trust the other faction to uphold a truce while they deal with the dragons. Only with the Greybeards and the Dragonborn intervening do they get assurance that the truce will not be broken by either of the factions when they let their guard down to fight the dragons. 1. still ulfric could take care of the problem by telling his guards to stop harassing the others. and when you say "for there own good".....its thier choice

2. i meant brunwulfs quest where you kill the bandits ...my bad

3. yes i get that theres a Civil war. but like i said previously (and as you confirmed)  there is a bigger threat outsideand i get if they didnt get along so smooth but...the fact that ulfric just Demands (not just after a while ) He want Malkarth is just...immature. I mean if he said that he wishes to stop the threat and he finds a  good dimplomatic idea instade of acting like a spoiled child  I would have understand ( also i thougth it was annoying how the quest takes solong and how boring it was)