Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-209.7.3.188-20160303204000/@comment-993964-20161022215706

Blademaster Jauffre wrote: Terawolf119 wrote: Sorry I forgot my manners, it was late and i forgot my password to my account. What i meant to say is when I was currently playing my warrior character, I was new. As i progressed in Skyrim I  got to certain point in the game where I was (stubornly) out matched, before then my hate for the Thalmor was growing quite fast, so when it was revealed to me through lore that the Thalmor were the reason for Talos being banned and the Empire enforcing it you can imagine my reaction, in conclusion to that I (still to this day)  couldn't understand why people sided with the Empire, I can understand your educated reply, but I, when I was going to start over as a mage (when I was being out matched) sided with the Stormcloaks,Why? Not becuase i believed in Ulfric Stormcloak, and YES I know he is racist, but you need to remeber he ends up NOT being the leader of Skyrim a much better person ends up being the substitute, and if you listen well, they say when skyrim recovers they shall resign someone to be the leader of Skyrim. I also side with the Stormcloaks becuase It's one step closer to the defeat of the Thalmor, How? the whole Empire is in the Thalmor's pocket and the Thalmor worry about a revolt to their Under-complete-control-Empire, Therefore that is why I disagree with people's sideing with the Empire. I'm very ashamed of that coment, but i shall keep it there for leverage and refference. You seem to believe what many do regarding the Talos ban. Like many, you blame the Empire for it being enforced. In reality, however, the Empire allowed the Nords of Skyrim to practice Talos worship. Ulfric, at the time, was a Thalmor agent, the Markarth Incident was staged between him and the Thalmor to give them an excuse to come to Skyrim. The Thalmor, however, betrayed Ulfric after he had given them their reason, which is why Ulfric became uncooperative and started his rebellion.

Ulfric will become High King of Skyrim if the Stormcloaks win. The jarls are backed by his army, who in turn, back Ulfric. Ulfric already acts as the High King, because he knows he'll be it.

The Empire isn't in their pocket, remember that an 'Imperial victory harms their overal position'? The Empire is rebuilding its strenght and its Legions are already on the border with the Dominion. The Redguards acknowledge that the Empire is needed to defeat the Dominion. The Stormcloaks might be good for Skyrim in the short term, but the Empire is the best for Skyrim in the long term. Skyrim's coffers are light and with a war with the Empire, they will remain light. The Dominion would easily defeat Skyrim, and we all know how much of a strategic value Skyrim has. How can you deny that the Imperials aren't responsible for the Talos ban. There's actually a book called the The Talos Mistake that reads:

''But the citizens of the Empire must know this: the Emperor did not agree to outlaw the worship of Talos because it was demanded by the Thalmor, the ruling body of the Aldmeri Dominion.

The Emperor agreed to the outlaw of the worship of Talos because it was the right thing to do.

Today, the Emperor, and indeed the Empire itself, recognizes that allowing the worship of Talos was a mistake. For by doing so, by allowing the worship of Talos as a Divine the Empire actually did its own people a great disservice: for this only succeeded in weakening the memory of the man Tiber Septim and his many extraordinary (though mortal) deeds; and pushing people away from the Eight Divines, the true gods, who do deserve our love and reverence.

And so, the Empire admits it was wrong. The Talos Mistake will not be repeated. May we find centuries of peace and prosperity with our new Thalmor friends, and continue to share a spirituality that binds together all the cultures and races of Tamriel.''

Not only did he encourage the ban becoming law, not only is it illegal in Imperial provinces, but he actually wrote a book that details his full support of the Thalmor's philosophy. The the Emperor are the ones with Thalmor friends but you accuse Ulfric of being their agent? How do we get to this conclusion?