User talk:Flightmare/Archive/7

Infobox Beta
Hi there! I’m Andrew, one of the community managers at Wikia. If you don’t know me, here’s my CC profile. I like baseball, laying on the beach with no plans or goals for the day, and climbing things.

We have a new beta project out, and since it's going to be critical to Wikia's future, we're asking for your help.

We want to partner with your community (and a couple others) and collaborate on a redesign of your existing infoboxes. It’s not a small task, but it’s one that we think we can get done relatively quickly and efficiently. Our engineers - both here in San Francisco and in Poland - will get hands-on with your community and work with your team to redesign the infoboxes.

You can read more here in the forum (and head to the sandbox to give it a whirl), but the tl:dr version: our current infobox structure translates very poorly to mobile experiences, and mobile is where Wikia’s growth lies. We came up with a solution that will take a bit of effort, but will pay significant dividends in the near future. What we're hoping is that we can use this community to test out its strengths and limitations while we get it from “beta” to “full feature”.

What you get out of the deal:


 * Wikia engineers who will work directly with your community to update the code that underpins your infoboxes
 * Access to staff for feedback, and our promise that your ideas will be taken seriously
 * A head-start on this change and therefore a significant upgrade in your community’s visibility

What we get out of the deal:


 * Several fresh sets of eyes that can help us understand how this will be used by the average Wikian
 * A test community that will let us track how the new infobox structure is used by visitors and viewers
 * The opportunity to share this initiative’s successes (and failures, I’m sure!) with the wider Wikia community and show them that it’s a smart plan for our shared mobile future

Please talk this over with your admin team and let me know. I’m happy to answer any and all questions about this - please use my wall or just keep the conversation going here.

Ducksoup (talk) 01:55, May 20, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Infobox Beta
We are not opposed to the idea, we just have questions and we want/need to make sure the community is OK with this. We have gotten them involved in smaller things in the past, us being a beta for infoboxes is a little bigger.

How about you? You think we should do this?-Cheatcodechamp (talk) 22:08, May 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * I've read the related thread on CC. It looks like it is far from done right now and some of our more sophisticated templates like DragonShouts will probably not work at first. If we do opt in however, we can apply some pressure so they will make tables like these possible. It's probably better than not joining and facing the change unprepared, when it's rolled out globally. My only question would be if we can have both the new and old system in use at the same time (I suppose it does) so we can test this on the less complicated templates like SkyrimCharacters. — Flightmare (talk) 23:25, May 20, 2015 (UTC)


 * I like the idea of making infoboxes more mobile-friendly. Well, infoboxes don't exactly cause problems on mobile, but it's a pain to have to scroll through them to get to the actual article, especially with the longer ones. I looked at some of the examples Ducksoup posted on the Community Test Wiki on both mobile and desktop; it seems a fair bit more efficient to me, although a couple things could be changed. —Atvelonis (talk) 01:50, May 21, 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi there, I'm Rafal - one of the engineers at Wikia working on new Infoboxes Project. We would like to help you with testing new infoboxes. As a demonstration we did change all your NPCs infobox templates to the new markup and applied styling to make them look similar to the previous ones. All you custom themeing was also applied. Please check them out and give us your feedback. If you would like we are happy to help you with other infobox templates on ElderScrolls community. Rafal Leszczynski (talk) 14:41, May 26, 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks, they look good so far. — Flightmare (talk) 15:40, May 27, 2015 (UTC)

Chat
Hey there, do you have time for a little talk please on the chat ? Emperor Jarjarkine   The Ragged Flagon - Cistern  19:35, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

I'll be back in probably 2:30 3h :) dont worry, i'll message you then if you are still here :) Emperor Jarjarkine   The Ragged Flagon - Cistern  17:44, May 26, 2015 (UTC)


 * Okay, i'm here ! Emperor Jarjarkine  Aldmeri_Dominion.png  The Ragged Flagon - Cistern  20:26, May 26, 2015 (UTC)

Beta templates
Hey Flight, I think there is a little issue with the beta templates. On, say, Gwilandor, if I add the Missing template to it it doesn't seem to be adding the category Pages Missing Data. The template still appears in the infobox, it just doesn't add any categories, which is very unhelpful. Do you know how this could be fixed? —Atvelonis (talk) 01:21, June 4, 2015 (UTC)
 * I notice the same applies to the missing image category. So this might indicate any category inclusions inside the new templates don't work. I'll forward this to the Beta program maintainers. — Flightmare (talk) 14:06, June 4, 2015 (UTC)

Disabling the anti-YouTube filter
The YouTube filter has been blocking me from making edits to page. I mentioned this on Atvelonis' talkpage and gave my reasons as to why the filter should be disabled there. Please disable it as soon as you can, thank you. ☞ Rim < Talk 23:02, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

Chat logs
Hey,

Where can I find KINMUNES chat logs? We need a piece.-Cheatcodechamp (talk) 07:19, July 12, 2015 (UTC)
 * What part do you need? Uploading logs isn't automated yet so I mostly try to bulk upload them manually when I have enough time to do so. — Flightmare (talk) 15:24, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

KINMUNE
She has been going in and out of the chatroom every 10 minutes... Her disconnections are really consistent. It's been going on for like half a day I think. I thought it might be something serious so I decided to leave you a message.

Re:Kicks
Ok, I got you. :D No more kicking the bot for now on. xD Starkiller131 (talk) 15:28, August 3, 2015 (UTC)

Help
Hey Flightmare, I am currently in a rush to get rid of an encrypted file (because I need to delete steam), and I heard you might be able to help.

Disregard that, I did it..

Epic Scimitars (talk) 12:33, August 6, 2015 (UTC)

Troll/spammer in chat
Hey we have a troll in chat, we need an admin asap please. His name is ILS5Fan.--Kora Stormblade (talk) 00:00, August 10, 2015 (UTC)

Nvm, an admin showed and he is currently banned.--Kora Stormblade (talk) 00:07, August 10, 2015 (UTC)

Hello Flightmare. I just wanted to tell you that in chat there is a user named Ralvz'jeshka Shakaraph and he's asking me quite personal questions and it's making me feel quite... uncomfortable. Can you do something about it please?

Thanks, ThatDirtyShisno (talk) 17:29, August 13, 2015 (UTC)

Don't worry about it anymore. An admin showed up and he is going to see to it.

Thanks again! :) ThatDirtyShisno (talk) 18:04, August 13, 2015 (UTC)

ThatDirtyShisno AND Sugar-crzy-donut
http://s1.postimg.org/abuyy0abz/gfdfsdvfb.jpg They posted the same "random" spam, at the same time. Coincidence? 17:28, August 29, 2015 (UTC)

Spam in Chat.
Just thought I should show you this:

http://postimg.org/image/6nvuo5udt/

It was real brief and nobody even noticed it until he left but I still believe that rules are rules and this shouldn't go unnoticed. Sorry if it turns out to mean nothing. I'm just trying to protect this wiki.

Rosalia-Lombardo (talk) 13:56, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

KINMUNE/Bot logs
Hey, We have the moot in a few hours, and I was wondering if you knew if KINMUNE will be there for it, guys in chat said she vanished and has not returned like normal, and this makes me mildly nervous as I end up adding the logs if KINMUNE has left.

Speaking of logs. Do you know if KINMUNE has logs for some of the missing dates we have? We have more redlinks then I like on the boots records, and I wanted to know if you can help if that.

Hope all is well, and happy editing.Cheatcodechamp (talk) 22:07, September 12, 2015 (UTC)
 * I still have all of them, the bot writes them to text-files. The problem right now is that the system to auto-upload broke and I copy/pase the moot logs by hand. But this is where a new problem rises as I was having some difficulties with my desktop lately so I wasn't able to upload the logs. — Flightmare (talk) 11:19, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Main Page FB Error
Hey Flight, I ran across an error on the main page directly below the box for chat that said: Error: Not a valid Facebook Page url. Just figured I'd let you know and see if it could be fixed. Thanks!

Fluffyzerglin (talk) 19:43, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

Uploading page
Hey Flightmare, the Special:Upload page seems a bit outdated. I'm not sure how it can be edited, or who is allowed to edit it, so I figured I'd let you know what I think should be changed:
 * 1) The message box appears a bit harsh and strict, implying that the uploaded image will be deleted unless following a specific set of rules. You should change "will be deleted" to "may be deleted", as images are rarely ever deleted per say they lack a description.
 * 2) In the statement "Do not upload content with false descriptions, sources, or copyright tags. The image will be deleted and you will be blocked.", this also seems very strict. A user will not be blocked for violating this, as we usually just let them know about their mistakes rather than banning them immediately.
 * 3) The suggested links for free image hosting are ImageShack and Photobucket. People don't often use these sites anymore. I would suggest linking Imgur and Puush instead.

That's all. I would ask the other admins since I know your duties as a Helper keep you busier than them, but I don't know if they would know how considering how old it is. Thanks in advance. ☞ Rim < Talk 00:08, October 2, 2015 (UTC)


 * Oh right, I forgot to tell you but I uploaded a photo of the Anvils Fighters Guild that can be used on the Front Page. It's taken at approximately the same angle and is in HD. The dimensions are 1920x1080, so crop it however you like if you want it to appear better in the slider. ☞ Rim < Talk 00:17, October 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * I agree with Rim. The page that would need to be edited is MediaWiki:Uploadtext, but I'm not sure if Helpers can still edit the locked down pages in that namespace yet. The whole image policy stuff should probably be overhauled in any case, too outdated and strict, implies harsh punishments for minor infractions. --Sajuuk 12:06, October 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * I have to admit I've never seen that upload page before, but I agree it looks awful. Thanks to localisation, every language has another upload page so I never noticed this page. — Flightmare (talk) 18:32, October 3, 2015 (UTC)


 * I've changed around some of the wording to make it seem less harsh, is that better? —Atvelonis (talk) 15:33, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

I think Kinmune broke
Not sure what got into her, she just started talking to us. Here is a screenshot.


 * 

Sorry to tell the bad news to you, The Crusader of Truth (talk) 18:54, October 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * No I didn't break, I assure you! KINMUNE (talk) 18:55, October 6, 2015 (UTC)

Moot Timings
Hey Flightmare,

I don't think we've spoken yet, so hi! I'm looking for various admins availabilty for the Moot should it be moved six hours earlier. As you're in Europe, I assume this is fine?

Regards, Bronkiin (talk) 17:09, October 8, 2015 (UTC)
 * Moving it 6 hours would work out for me. I still cannot guarantee availability but it would be a lot better than during the night. — Flightmare (talk) 17:46, October 8, 2015 (UTC)

Kinmune's Logs
Hi Flight! Could you let me know when Kinmune's logs of today's moot are up and complete? I just wanted to review it to bring up some topics to discuss regarding the moot. Thanks! -- { 23:02, October 17, 2015 (UTC) }

Chat banned wrongfully
I have been chat banned by Gold for no reason. I have a pastebin of the whole conversation which shows that he was trolling (against the policy) and then banned me for pointing it out. He didn't bother to provide any reason in the chatban reason section, so I would like this ban to be lifted as it's completely bogus. --Sajuuk 07:46, October 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * He's lying. When you got time Flightmare, come on chat and i'll show you. You can find the reasoning for his ban on his talkpage. 07:59, October 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Stop saying I'm lying Gold. I have the evidence that shows you trolled and disparaged my messages, then banned me. --Sajuuk 08:01, October 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * The reason that has been given is bias. It proves the point that chat mods dislike being criticised or given opinions that they personally do not like. The reason is worthless. --Sajuuk 08:43, October 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * I suggest the two of you try to find a solution to this together. Me stepping in right now won't ease the situation, and it won't help for any future problems that might arise. Come back to me when you see no other way out. — Flightmare (talk) 13:46, October 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Well we tried, but it failed. My talkpage archive shows what happened when I tried to talk it out. So yeah... --Sajuuk 13:50, October 20, 2015 (UTC)

Script request
Hey Flight, I was looking through Category:Deletion Candidates and saw this oddity. I'm pretty sure it's from the old comment system... Sajuuk wanted us to run a script of his to get rid of them a while ago but we didn't get around to it. So I wanted to ask you if you could provide some way to get rid of them since they're causing some issues. Thanks. —Atvelonis (talk) 21:43, November 3, 2015 (UTC)
 * What kind of problems are you referring to? These messages are now of any old system, but from a new one instead. Someone might have tested the system in here. I'll report this as bug before I try and remove them. 83.137.143.222 09:40, November 5, 2015 (UTC)
 * Giving it a second look, I might understand what you see as problem. Following the link never brings you to the correct page as you'd get redirected right away. These pages will be able to be removed through the API, I'll have a look at it this weekend. 83.137.143.222 09:44, November 5, 2015 (UTC)

Chat Log Question
Hey, Flightmare! I had a question about something I had noticed in the chat. I logged out after the moot and did not get back on again for some time. When I got back on I had noticed(chat was dead)KINMUNE had said hello to me, almost 20 minutes before I logged on.

A Request
8:59 KINMUNE Hello there, Atvelonis! Hello there, Ralvz'jeshka Shakaraph!

Hello there, ~*LilithRayn*~! Welcome to The Elder Scrolls Wiki chat. (Chat guidelines)

9:13 ~*LilithRayn*~ Uuuuhhmm..

I don't know what cause this...so I wanted to bring it to your attention and see if I needed to worry or if it was just a minor issue.

(~*LilithRayn*~ (talk) 03:55, November 22, 2015 (UTC))

Templates
Hey Flightmare! Hope you're feeling well.

I was having some issues with a template, Template:Incomplete. We (me and Atv) wanted to work on the template so that it would leave a subcategory on the page, such as "Incomplete articles: Skyrim". We even went as far as to make a template that would try that, however, we never quite fixed it. A good example would be here. If you get it working, I would love to see how you figured it out. Thanks!


 * Thanks Flight, you rock! —Atvelonis (talk) 03:38, December 13, 2015 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that was quite a good solution! Do you know about any page where I can learn more of this stuff at? Haven't really seen this " {{#switch: {{{1|}}} " command before. Any good reference pages will work out, I guess. Thanks once again! {{User:The Crusader of Truth/SigReal|01:05:10|December 18, 2015}}
 * You can read more at — Flightmare {{sup|(talk)}} 20:36, December 18, 2015 (UTC)

can i plz be unbanned from the chat {{Unsigned|Demonchild12420}}

On a similar note, could you look at {{tl|Stub}} when you get the chance? It's not working for "Imperial City". Here's an example of an IC page using the template. --Shockstorm (talk) 21:40, December 28, 2015 (UTC)

Moot Tasklist
Hey, I updated the Moot tasklist to show all the items we agreed to do. Finished items are crossed off, but we should work to finish the rest. If possible, if you can assist in this matter, that would be great.

Hope all is well, thanks and happy editing. -Cheatcodechamp (talk) 23:57, January 7, 2016 (UTC)

Navs
Yo Flight, we'll have to work soon on the templates because, the color isn't the same as it used to be and,  the [hide] are getting kind of annoying hehehe, so whenever you get time, if you could give us a hand with that, it would be cool :P Emperor Jarjarkine (Talk) 20:43, January 12, 2016 (UTC)
 * I cannot fix the collapse problem. All tables using it should be fixed instead. Only the real table header must have an ! at the start of the line, other lines should start with a | (pipe) instead. Please check this diff for clarification. — Flightmare (talk) 21:40, January 12, 2016 (UTC)

Bot
Well, since no one has any idea where Cörey is, and we still desperately need an editing bot, do you think you could set one up? I have loads of horribly mundane tasks that should be done via a bot, but seeing as we don't have one it's been slow going. Thanks. —Atvelonis (talk) 22:30, January 13, 2016 (UTC)
 * I'll try setting up a PyWikipediaBot tomorrow, have any suggestion page to experiment on? We also need an official discussion so I can flag the bot. This would be a good moot topic but I don't know if I can make the moot this saturday. — Flightmare (talk) 10:52, January 14, 2016 (UTC)
 * I brought it up in the moot today, and everyone is on board with it. We're moving all the NPC templates, so SkyrimNPCs to SkyrimCharacters, for example. You could test her out on moving the links I suppose. —Atvelonis (talk) 21:38, February 13, 2016 (UTC)

Games template
Hey Flight. In the moot today we decided to start using our own version of the Fallout Wiki's Games template. I set up some of the basics but since I know very little about coding I didn't get very far. I set up Games and abb which the template relies on, as well as some stuff in Mediawiki:Common.js (at the bottom) to make it go in the correct place on articles. I think the templates are using some tables that don't exist on this wiki but I don't know if that would actually affect it. The MediaWiki edit hasn't gone through yet either because Wikia is slow but there's probably more to it than that, I dunno. Since I am illiterate with this stuff I figured I'd ask you for help. Thanks in advance. —Atvelonis (talk) 22:36, February 20, 2016 (UTC)
 * The JavaScript verification process takes a while. As of now, the changes are still pending. — Flightmare (talk) 13:31, February 22, 2016 (UTC)

''' Hello, i would like to complaint against Bronkiin (which im sure im not the first one) he comes into the chat today and me and others were talking and having a respectfull argument and he comes in and just kicks me out because "i'm not in a good mood today so be carefull"... that's his only reason for kicking me.. and there were couple of other users there like judgedred or something and daed..saurun and many others who also didn't like the way he kicks people out for no reason. so i would like to complaint and am asking to kick him and bring me back (and you can look and check the chat today (28\3\16) thats when it happened i cant say the time because maybe u live in dirferent time zone than me, thanks in advance. and have good one.SKiwa1ker1 (talk) 17:38, March 28, 2016 (UTC) '''

and i also wanted to add to my complaint that you can ask any of the users that were there they all said he kicks for no reason at all and they all argued against him when he came in... thank you. SKiwa1ker1 (talk) 17:41, March 28, 2016 (UTC)

I was kicked from a chat without reason today 4/3/2016 by =Kora Stormblade=  on no grounds did she/he have any reason to kick me it severly upset me

Fun512 (talk) 21:29, April 3, 2016 (UTC)fun512

RE: Kora Stormblade
Flightmare, just as a heads up, The original Account was Monkeyman21155. He created two alts and I did say to Monkey/Fun in chat that alts aren't allowed and we can ban them at will. He was banned previously on his Monkeyman account so he created two others that got infinite bans. This is for a heads up. Qahnaarin1997 (talk) 21:35, April 3, 2016 (UTC)

Hey Flightmare. I'll try to make this message short since I know you dont likely have a lot of time to deal with relentless questions.

I've been trying to make a variable for the OnlineBooks template for quite a bit of time now so that it would include " " however I cant quite figure out my mistakes. If you don't mind, is there any way you could create the switch on my sandbox so that I can see what Im doing wrong? Thank you,


 * I think the problem is caused by the load order of pages (in what order elements are rendered). I was able to include a gallery when a certain amount of image arguments was provided, but using arguments in the newly created does not seem possible. You can check my progress here User:Flightmare/sandbox/gallery and User:Flightmare/sandbox. — Flightmare (talk) 11:57, April 6, 2016 (UTC)

Hey Michael!

Ik zou graag in contact met je willen komen via e-mail, is dat mogelijk?

Zo ja, zou je een berichtje willen sturen naar info@wikibase.nl? Dan kan ik je direct een uitgebreider bericht sturen.

Alvast bedankt!

WS2016 (talk) 15:20, April 7, 2016 (UTC)

Blocks
I don't think the blocks are needed, as Shawn and Bron were warned by Atv last night as it was going on and then stopped right after. And I don't recall Crusader posting anything that could be construed as unacceptable. Just thought I'd let you know. --Shockstorm (talk) 17:37, April 14, 2016 (UTC)
 * I appreciate your advise, but I feel a warning is not justifiable in this case. — Flightmare (talk) 18:30, April 14, 2016 (UTC)
 * Hey Flight. Going to say in advance that I did give Shawn permission to make a minor post in the first place, thinking it would be harmless, however I was planning on deleting it soon after anyways. I realized afterwards that that was an incredibly stupid thing to do, and I rather regret it now. I didn't make any of those kinds of comments myself, but I did let them stay for longer than I should have.


 * I did ask Shawn, Bronkiin, and Crusader a few times not to continue with the posts as it was disruptive. As it was pretty late I don't remember if they stopped immediately afterwards or not, but regardless the things they were saying were not ok things to post in the first place so I can't exactly contest their blocks. So I am definitely at fault myself and I would like to apologize for that. —Atvelonis (talk) 19:20, April 14, 2016 (UTC)