Board Thread:Consensus Track/@comment-1251315-20140825123912/@comment-26474238-20140828035144

Zurgane wrote: GarouxBloodline wrote: Zurgane wrote: GarouxBloodline wrote: Zurgane wrote: GarouxBloodline wrote: Zurgane wrote: GarouxBloodline wrote: Zurgane wrote: I'm all for disabling anon edits altogether. This wiki is large and successful enough to afford losing a few anon contributors in order to prevent large scale vandalism. No offense to this wiki, as I know how hard the community works, but it is not exactly in the best shape - we still need a ton of work done to TES:O articles, and most of our articles from before Oblivion/Skyrim are either missing, incomplete, or are of rather shoddy quality. We need all of the help possible here. Don't be a dummy, Garoux. If what you say about the state of the wiki is true, then the last kind of help to be expected is that of anon users. And this is why I am glad you are not in charge. It is this type of elitist mindset that alienates users and chases them away. The anonymous should never be generalized as bad, all because there are a few anonymous vandals every day. Guess what? There are registered vandals, too. What are you on about? Sajuuk made it clear that the wiki is facing a very real situation with daily anon vandalism. Disabling anon edits would automatically eliminate the issue completely. If you can't see that, you're not very bright at all. How is it an elitist mindset? I was merely presenting the best option to deal with the situation. Sounds to me like you don't even know what you're arguing about, Garoux. Vandals who are registered get dealt with in seconds, it is much harder to deal with anon vandalism.

One last thing, would you please stop acting all holier-than-thou? It's kind of ridiculous. Where? Today, as in the entirety of the 26th and going into today the 27th, there were less than 4-5 vandal reports. As for bans, only 2 anons were banned during the 26th, with the only bans before that for the past few days being a single anon ban on the 25th, 3 anon bans on the 24th, and 1 anon ban on the 23rd. If you go through the logs, these numbers typically stay around the same number. Do not believe me? Look for yourself:


 * Vandalism History


 * Public Logs

So I implore of you: please show me where all of this rampant anon vandalism is. Okay, if there's not a problem with anon vandalism, please explain why this thread exists. Is Sajuuk lying? There is a difference between lying, and being mistaken. Since nothing suggests that he was blatantly lying, I must take good faith into account, and say he was simply mistaken. What I do know, for a fact, is what those pages told me. And what they told me is that neither vandalism reports, nor blocked anons are that serious of an issue. In-fact, I would go as far as saying that the vandalism here is so tame that it is nearly non-existent.

Unless you are suggesting that we alienate hundreds of thousands of anonymous editors that have come to us over the years, just because on average, we ban 1-3 of them a day, with many days seen where we ban 1-0 anons. You cannot argue against cold hard-facts, which is what the Public Logs are. So you are claiming that Sajuuk is lying. Apparently he's mistaken? I don't even care if it's 1-3 vandals banned, it happens every day. And it has to stop. Disabling anon edits is the best course of action. I am done with you. At this point, I am convinced that you are either trolling, or have no concept of Wikia philosophy. Even when the cold-hard facts have been presented to you, you still make the suggestion that we should ban the entirety of the anonymous community, all because we ban on average 1-3 anons a day. With your logic, we might as well and ban everyone except Wikia Staff, seeing as in how registered users are banned regularly, as well.

And no - I am not calling Sajuuk a liar. But you can keep being a liar yourself by suggesting otherwise, when I have already told you otherwise.