The Elder Scrolls Wiki:Moot/Log June 2018

Hostile if attacked Cannot be attacked? Yellow: Neutral White: Friendly (bounty if attacked) No color: Essential Atvelonis Not everyone has the colors enabled And some people are colorblind Container Yes\no (or something like that)
 * 20:13:01: Atvelonis: Well, I don't have an actual topic. No one has signed up either.
 * 20:13:08: Atvelonis: I think Amulet (?) had something about Legends?
 * 20:13:08: The Crusader of Truth: Amulet has an ideaish
 * 20:13:45: The Great Laggi: I.
 * 20:13:51: The Great Laggi: oop
 * 20:13:53: Atvelonis: @Amulet: If you'd like to talk about your idea then go ahead
 * 20:14:38: Rozty: *amulet is away*
 * 20:14:47: The Great Laggi: lol
 * 20:14:56: Amulet of Kings: I would like to know what the change in the development of TES Legengs means. I have read today the new blog writen by Cruss and I would like to know if there are going to be new templates or something
 * 20:14:57: The Crusader of Truth: *the Sound of Silence plays*
 * 20:15:01: The Crusader of Truth: o oshit
 * 20:15:13: The Crusader of Truth: And no I don't think so?
 * 20:15:21: The Great Laggi: Watch yo’ profanity
 * 20:15:31: Nekyn Alb: Licenses?
 * 20:15:34: The Crusader of Truth: fuck sorry I forgot my profanity
 * 20:15:45: The Great Laggi: REEEEE
 * 20:15:45: Rozty: i don't think we even mentioned direwolf in the license
 * 20:16:11: The Crusader of Truth: Nah
 * 20:16:30: Rozty: but since it changed i propose we make a template for Sparkypants
 * 20:16:32: The Crusader of Truth: Direwolf doesn't even have a page on the wiki
 * 20:16:37: The Great Laggi: may seem like a weird time to ask but should I get the new god of war for my dad?
 * 20:16:39: Rozty: simply so we can have the name
 * 20:16:44: Atvelonis: We should make articles for Dire Wolf Digital and Sparkypants
 * 20:16:54: The Crusader of Truth: ^
 * 20:17:01: The Crusader of Truth: I call dips on Sparkypants
 * 20:17:09: The Crusader of Truth: *dibs
 * 20:17:09: Rozty: i still can't get over the naem
 * 20:17:11: Amulet of Kings: Also, is Dire Wolf Digital still considered a TES developer?
 * 20:17:11: Rozty: hecc
 * 20:17:21: The Crusader of Truth: Not anymore (?)
 * 20:17:22: The Great Laggi: he atacc
 * 20:17:25: Atvelonis: They are
 * 20:17:32: Rozty: for what
 * 20:17:34: The Crusader of Truth: o oof
 * 20:17:35: The Great Laggi: and he protecc
 * 20:17:37: Atvelonis: At least as far as the encyclopedia is concerned
 * 20:17:43: Atvelonis: So we would record them for that
 * 20:17:52: Atvelonis: (We would also note that they are no longer developing Legends)
 * 20:18:02: Rozty: the cards that are already in the game should have them as the developers right?
 * 20:18:06: Amulet of Kings: But anything they say from now on is "unofficial", right?
 * 20:18:18: Atvelonis: Unlicensed, if we go with Jauffre's CT :P
 * 20:18:19: Rozty: (thinking)
 * 20:18:20: Atvelonis: But yes
 * 20:18:22: Atvelonis: More or less
 * 20:18:30: The Crusader of Truth: Doubt that'll be an issue
 * 20:18:35: TinyClayMan: Oh oh
 * 20:18:43: TinyClayMan: I have a moot suggestion
 * 20:18:45: Rozty: what
 * 20:18:46: Atvelonis: We still record retired developers' statements on the wiki
 * 20:18:48: Rozty: yay
 * 20:18:49: Atvelonis: So this is no different
 * 20:18:50: The Crusader of Truth: They're basically redoing the game engine, but not the game itself
 * 20:18:52: The Crusader of Truth: Yea
 * 20:18:58: The Great Laggi: hmm
 * 20:19:04: TinyClayMan: What if we add the Hostile parameter in Characters and Creatures templates?
 * 20:19:05: The Crusader of Truth: I just realized how much what I said makes sense
 * 20:19:13: The Crusader of Truth: (of
 * 20:19:20: Rozty: so basically the only thing that will be different is performance?
 * 20:19:26: The Crusader of Truth: I thought we were planning on that?
 * 20:19:31: Rozty: and graphics perhaps
 * 20:19:35: The Crusader of Truth: Performance, UI, menus, etc
 * 20:19:35: Amulet of Kings: The interface is going to change apparently
 * 20:19:43: The Great Laggi: oh?
 * 20:19:51: The Great Laggi: in what way
 * 20:19:51: The Crusader of Truth: read my blog and be amazing
 * 20:19:53: Atvelonis: @TinyClayMan: slow down
 * 20:20:03: The Crusader of Truth: https://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:The_Crusader_of_Truth/The_Elder_Scrolls:_Legends_Has_a_New_Developer
 * 20:20:08: Atvelonis: wait a minute until we're done with Legends nonsense
 * 20:20:10: The Great Laggi: oh
 * 20:20:13: TinyClayMan: :c
 * 20:20:18: Rozty: didn't they say that they didn't want to change anything?
 * 20:20:27: Atvelonis: re interface: does this mean the card interface?
 * 20:20:29: The Crusader of Truth: Nothing with players' stuff
 * 20:20:30: TinyClayMan: multi-suggestion drifting
 * 20:20:39: The Crusader of Truth: Card interface maybe
 * 20:20:42: Atvelonis: Because if so we will have to get card images again
 * 20:20:46: Atvelonis: Which will be a gigantic pain
 * 20:20:48: Amulet of Kings: I have the feeling they will add lots of paid content
 * 20:20:48: The Crusader of Truth: Oh God
 * 20:20:50: Rozty: *deja vu theme plays*
 * 20:20:59: Atvelonis: We've already had to do it once
 * 20:21:01: Atvelonis: ugh
 * 20:21:04: Rozty: oof that's bad
 * 20:21:04: Atvelonis: We'll see
 * 20:21:21: The Crusader of Truth: I would honestly bet probably
 * 20:21:29: The Crusader of Truth: They're answering more stuff about it next Friday
 * 20:21:42: Rozty: at least it's soon
 * 20:21:44: The Crusader of Truth: Until then, nobody knows but them
 * 20:21:59: Amulet of Kings: Maybe we will know more about it in the E3
 * 20:22:07: Rozty: when is that
 * 20:22:07: The Crusader of Truth: I just want fucking TES6 already damnit
 * 20:22:12: The Crusader of Truth: 10th for Beth
 * 20:22:16: Rozty: o
 * 20:22:21: Rozty: that's soon
 * 20:22:21: The Crusader of Truth: Again
 * 20:22:26: The Crusader of Truth: In my blog (angry)
 * 20:22:34: Amulet of Kings: By the way, are we going to cover Bethesda's conference in any way?
 * 20:22:42: The Crusader of Truth: I plan on doing a news post
 * 20:22:42: The Great Laggi: dunno
 * 20:22:47: Rozty: (i just want to get eso already but 4 GB RAM and half of it is used on start up)
 * 20:22:58: Atvelonis: We can do a live updates news post
 * 20:23:03: Atvelonis: I'll be watching the stream
 * 20:23:10: Atvelonis: I think it's 9:30 EDT on June 10th
 * 20:23:17: Atvelonis: Presumably https://twich.tv/bethesda
 * 20:23:29: The Crusader of Truth: Maybe make a temporary channel in the Discord or post it in the #noticeboard?
 * 20:23:30: Atvelonis: Early for any west-coasters here, but a good time for east coast editors and Europeans
 * 20:23:47: Atvelonis: Probably noticeboard
 * 20:23:52: The Crusader of Truth: And I can do the blog post post-event
 * 20:23:52: Amulet of Kings: 3:00 am for me :(
 * 20:23:58: The Great Laggi: i am utahn so I am a West coaster
 * 20:24:02: Rozty: gonna have to check what EDT timezone is first
 * 20:24:15: The Crusader of Truth: We have maybe 200? more users than last year on the server so I assume it'll be busier
 * 20:24:29: The Great Laggi: can someone tell me when it starts for mst
 * 20:24:29: The Crusader of Truth: But you're right, it doesn't really warrant a new temp. channel
 * 20:24:58: The Crusader of Truth: 8 am I think
 * 20:25:02: Atvelonis: @Amulet: no, 9:30 AM
 * 20:25:06: Atvelonis: edt
 * 20:25:11: Rozty: for me it starts at 4.30pm
 * 20:25:13: Atvelonis: So for you that's like 3:30 PM
 * 20:25:16: Atvelonis: Yeah
 * 20:25:18: The Great Laggi: ok
 * 20:25:33: Rozty: what day is the 10th?
 * 20:25:44: TinyClayMan: Sunday
 * 20:25:48: The Crusader of Truth: ^
 * 20:25:52: Rozty: ok, that's a good day
 * 20:26:36: Rozty: so basically we aren't doing anything for legends until next friday?
 * 20:26:39: The Crusader of Truth: Yea
 * 20:26:50: The Crusader of Truth: Kinda hard to plan for what we dont know
 * 20:26:54: The Great Laggi: ok
 * 20:26:57: Rozty: yeah
 * 20:27:09: The Crusader of Truth: I guess we're good?
 * 20:27:19: The Great Laggi: yes, I think
 * 20:27:19: Rozty: didn't tiny have something to say
 * 20:27:20: Atvelonis: Sure
 * 20:27:20: The Crusader of Truth: If so, Tiny's up
 * 20:27:32: Amulet of Kings: Everywhere I check says 3:30 AM in Spain for Bethesda conference
 * 20:27:54: Rozty: makes sense
 * 20:28:01: Rozty: wait, am?
 * 20:28:35: Amulet of Kings: Yes, it says 9:30 PM for America
 * 20:28:46: Rozty: oof
 * 20:28:52: Atvelonis: what the hell
 * 20:28:53: Rozty: gonna have to check again
 * 20:29:05: Atvelonis: I could have sworn it was 9:30 AM on that IGN article
 * 20:29:19: Amulet of Kings: https://media.vandal.net/master/5-2018/201851118755_1.jpg
 * 20:29:40: Atvelonis: They must have changed it. Idk
 * 20:29:43: Atvelonis: Well, whatever
 * 20:29:59: The Crusader of Truth: Steam's post said something even more different
 * 20:30:01: Rozty: why have a conference so early in the morning
 * 20:30:02: Atvelonis: Crus and I should be awake to watch the stream
 * 20:30:11: Atvelonis: Well it's based out of California
 * 20:30:16: Atvelonis: It would be 6:30 for them
 * 20:30:23: The Crusader of Truth: nm I'm dumb no they didnt
 * 20:30:27: Rozty: pm right?
 * 20:30:31: The Great Laggi: 7:30 for me then
 * 20:30:41: Rozty: that's a great time
 * 20:30:41: The Crusader of Truth: And I can't really watch the stream - My internet isn't strong enough for live streams :(
 * 20:30:47: Rozty: unlike 4 in the morning
 * 20:30:57: The Crusader of Truth: I can check out bits and pieces of it
 * 20:30:58: Rozty: although i stay up until then anyway
 * 20:30:59: Amulet of Kings: Use 0:00-23:59 instead of AM and PM please
 * 20:31:02: The Crusader of Truth: But I doubt it'll work
 * 20:31:12: TinyClayMan: Agree with the Amulet
 * 20:31:15: The Crusader of Truth: This is America we don't speak that (kappa)
 * 20:31:24: The Crusader of Truth: Ignorance aside kk
 * 20:31:30: Atvelonis: 21:30 (?) EDT
 * 20:31:43: Rozty: that's 9
 * 20:31:55: Atvelonis: yeah
 * 20:31:57: The Great Laggi: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 * 20:31:58: Rozty: TinyClayMan
 * 20:32:02: Amulet of Kings: I thought it was just the opposite, I thought it was British English which used AM and OM
 * 20:32:04: TinyClayMan: Yes?
 * 20:32:10: Rozty: ping worked
 * 20:32:16: Atvelonis: I think it's a British thing and the US just copied them, but idk
 * 20:32:19: Rozty: didn't you say you had a topic
 * 20:32:36: TinyClayMan: Should I present it right now?
 * 20:32:38: The Crusader of Truth: Can this plz end so I can go back to being lazy
 * 20:32:40: The Crusader of Truth: Yea
 * 20:32:42: TinyClayMan: Okay
 * 20:32:47: The Crusader of Truth: (Sarcasm for my thing btw)
 * 20:32:48: TinyClayMan: I think that it would be great to add a Hostile parameter in Creatures and Characters templates. (as we are not using Enemy categorization anymore)
 * 20:33:36: Rozty: didn't we say that we should add something like this already
 * 20:33:41: Rozty: but never did
 * 20:33:54: The Crusader of Truth: That's already passed
 * 20:33:58: The Crusader of Truth: https://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_Wiki:Moot/February_2018
 * 20:33:59: TinyClayMan: Oof
 * 20:34:03: The Crusader of Truth: Proposal by The Crusader of Truth to remove SkyrimEnemies and OnlineEnemies and replace them with character templates. Passed 8-0-0. Along with that, it was also proposed to include the aggression data, "Unaggressive," "Aggressive," "Very Aggressive," and "Frenzied," in the infobox, which are taken directly from the Creation Kit. Passed 9-2-0.
 * 20:34:06: Atvelonis: I think he's referring to ESO
 * 20:34:07: Rozty: (honestly i had forgotten all about it until recently)
 * 20:34:23: Rozty: not in general?
 * 20:34:33: TinyClayMan: ESO specifically
 * 20:34:37: The Crusader of Truth: ESO was passed too
 * 20:34:37: Rozty: oh
 * 20:34:49: Rozty: it wasn't only skyrim?
 * 20:34:53: TinyClayMan: Because it would require only "Yes" or "No" as the value
 * 20:35:01: Rozty: i don't remember talking about the other gamers
 * 20:35:03: The Crusader of Truth: Proposal by The Crusader of Truth to remove SkyrimEnemies and OnlineEnemies
 * 20:35:04: Rozty: games*
 * 20:35:23: Rozty: did we ever talk about online enemise
 * 20:35:24: The Crusader of Truth: Although I think that was an issue that was mentioned, and I never included that part in the moot log
 * 20:35:39: Rozty: what was it
 * 20:35:50: Rozty: *remember*
 * 20:36:00: Atvelonis: Well, for characters I believe there are three levels of hostility
 * 20:36:08: Rozty: for ESO?
 * 20:36:18: Atvelonis: Friendly (green outline), Neutral (gray outline), Hostile (red outline)
 * 20:36:19: Atvelonis: Yes
 * 20:36:24: TinyClayMan: Hostile
 * 20:36:25: Atvelonis: There's a setting to see their disposition
 * 20:36:40: Nekyn Alb: isn't there yellow too?
 * 20:36:40: Rozty: didn't know grey outlines were a thing
 * 20:36:48: Atvelonis: I'm not sure. I would have to check
 * 20:37:04: Nekyn Alb: I think you mean yellow
 * 20:37:05: Amulet of Kings: There is a yellow outline for enemies that are no longer hostile
 * 20:37:14: Atvelonis: Might be my monitor settings
 * 20:37:32: Rozty: how does that work
 * 20:37:34: Amulet of Kings: But they become hostile again if attacked
 * 20:37:41: TinyClayMan: The outlines doesn't affect hostility I think
 * 20:38:23: The Crusader of Truth: Every enemy I've seen as been highlighted in red. But I don't know for sure, so I'll kinda hang around on this one.
 * 20:38:34: The Crusader of Truth: The variable was already proposed and accepted, though.
 * 20:38:43: Atvelonis: Not for ESO?
 * 20:38:48: Atvelonis: It doesn't have a Creation Kit
 * 20:38:56: Atvelonis: How would we get those Aggressive/Unaggressive/etc. data points?
 * 20:38:59: The Crusader of Truth: The moot summary I have says it was
 * 20:39:20: Atvelonis: It says that was deprecated
 * 20:39:35: Atvelonis: The following bit refers to Skyrim/Oblivion/Morrowind
 * 20:39:52: The Crusader of Truth: " Along with that, it was also proposed to include the aggression data, "
 * 20:40:18: Atvelonis: Well yes that was agreed upon, but the specifics weren't
 * 20:40:19: TinyClayMan: "... which is taken directly from the CK"
 * 20:40:29: Rozty: if the outlines show the hostility of a character, should a page be made with information on them?
 * 20:40:30: Atvelonis: I'm not sure if there's an official phrasing
 * 20:40:43: The Crusader of Truth: Hence like I said, the variable was proposed and accepted
 * 20:41:02: Atvelonis: Yes. But we can't necessarily use aggressive/unaggressive/etc. until we know what to call it
 * 20:41:06: TinyClayMan: It seems the variable was accepted but no value was assigned to it
 * 20:41:23: Rozty: the CK only has it as aggression anyway
 * 20:42:05: Rozty: https://gyazo.com/83fbfb2e6fb2bdad376e1054b9cbfd90
 * 20:42:14: Rozty: why can't these be used?
 * 20:42:20: Atvelonis: They aren't related to ESO
 * 20:42:27: Atvelonis: I don't even know if there are four levels in ESO
 * 20:42:30: Rozty: we were talking about ESO? oof
 * 20:42:37: The Crusader of Truth: They're being used for Skyrim ye
 * 20:42:47: Rozty: i thought we switched to skyrim for a bit there
 * 20:42:51: Amulet of Kings: Neutral (Grey), Non-hostile (Yellow), Enemy (Red)
 * 20:43:15: Atvelonis: I think I've also seen green though
 * 20:43:22: Amulet of Kings: I don't recall any
 * 20:43:36: Atvelonis: I just saw some monks in the Monastery of Serene Harmony with a green outline (I think)
 * 20:43:38: Atvelonis: Summerset
 * 20:43:47: Amulet of Kings: I don't own Summerset
 * 20:44:02: Rozty: if we included all the colours in a page together as i said before, maybe we could ues the colour itself as a variable, explaining in more detail what each one means in the article
 * 20:44:16: The Crusader of Truth: "red on an enemy, blue on a player and green on a friendly NPC." from one ESO forum
 * 20:44:39: The Crusader of Truth: (post from 2014)
 * 20:44:58: Amulet of Kings: The Yellow outline only appears to certain creatures after a quest is completed, and thus they become non-hostile to your character
 * 20:45:13: Atvelonis: I'm almost positive I also saw gray
 * 20:45:17: Atvelonis: Just random NPCs
 * 20:45:41: Amulet of Kings: All NPCs in a city have white outline
 * 20:45:42: The Crusader of Truth: Someone plz load ESO and look
 * 20:45:46: Atvelonis: Oh white, that was it
 * 20:46:04: TinyClayMan: I can send a screenshot in Discord
 * 20:46:15: Amulet of Kings: And pretty sure other players are not outlined
 * 20:46:30: Atvelonis: https://i.gyazo.com/56c0220f53b6f4ae3b4d6f7f2f5cc1ca.png
 * 20:46:38: Atvelonis: I think there's an option to outline other players. I'm not sure
 * 20:46:45: The Great Laggi: Dunn
 * 20:46:46: Atvelonis: I haven't messed around with the interface very much
 * 20:47:27: The Great Laggi: Gtg
 * 20:47:27: Atvelonis: Yeah, random NPCs in cities have the same white outline
 * 20:47:43: Rozty: not green?
 * 20:47:47: The Great Laggi: Nvm
 * 20:48:06: Atvelonis: No, it's definitely white
 * 20:48:08: Atvelonis: Let me check the monasteryt
 * 20:48:13: Atvelonis: They had a different color iirc
 * 20:48:36: Atvelonis: some characters don't seem to have outlines at all
 * 20:48:41: Rozty: wtf
 * 20:48:42: Atvelonis: Lanarie for instance, quest giver
 * 20:48:43: The Crusader of Truth: Psst imma head afk someone ping me when this comes to a vote plz
 * 20:48:44: Amulet of Kings: I've never seen a green outline, and I've beaten all base game zone questlines
 * 20:49:00: TinyClayMan: "Essential" characters seem to lack outlines
 * 20:49:11: Amulet of Kings: NPCs that can't be damaged have no outline
 * 20:49:41: Rozty: oh
 * 20:49:43: TinyClayMan: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/223251578927316992/452574520738316325/unknown.png
 * 20:49:45: Atvelonis: https://i.gyazo.com/4a7b313e0d14092103b8fa2843edb31c.png
 * 20:49:56: Atvelonis: Does my image look more green or yellow?
 * 20:50:10: Rozty: yellow i'd say
 * 20:50:12: Amulet of Kings: Blue and black
 * 20:50:14: Atvelonis: I guess if it is yellow, I mistook it for green
 * 20:50:24: Atvelonis: They aren't hostile but you aren't really supposed to be in the location
 * 20:50:33: KINMUNE: Hello there, Somethingelderscrolls!
 * 20:50:34: Atvelonis: They don't comment on it though
 * 20:50:43: Rozty: that's weird
 * 20:50:45: Atvelonis: Weirdly, the only ones who do comment on it are the Aldarch Protectors, who have a white outline
 * 20:50:52: Atvelonis: They *sound* hostile but they are not actually hostile
 * 20:51:01: Rozty: why have different outlines if it doesn't affect anything
 * 20:51:23: Atvelonis: I'm not really sure
 * 20:51:30: Atvelonis: I'll check in the menu for something about it
 * 20:51:35: Amulet of Kings: Yellow outline is for NPCs that used to be hostile before a quest
 * 20:51:50: TinyClayMan: Checked the monks
 * 20:51:58: TinyClayMan: I don't have the outlines at all
 * 20:52:16: Rozty: how
 * 20:52:23: Atvelonis: https://i.gyazo.com/9fbba32f2d2daafd15846646bf3eacc2.png
 * 20:52:33: Atvelonis: So "Friendly" is green
 * 20:52:38: Atvelonis: "Enemy" is red
 * 20:52:44: Atvelonis: So those terms are definitely two that we could use
 * 20:53:03: Amulet of Kings: I have been enlightened
 * 20:53:05: Atvelonis: It looks like we'd have to make up the other two
 * 20:53:26: TinyClayMan: Those Red and Green are for healthbars I think
 * 20:53:27: Rozty: what have you been enlightened with amulet
 * 20:53:32: Amulet of Kings: White: Non-hotile, bounty if attacked
 * 20:53:40: Rozty: o
 * 20:53:41: Amulet of Kings: Yellow: Non-hotile, no bounty if attacked
 * 20:53:42: Atvelonis: Not outlines? Just healthbars?
 * 20:53:50: Atvelonis: Ok this is really confusing
 * 20:54:00: Amulet of Kings: Red: Hostile, no bounty if attacked
 * 20:54:44: Atvelonis: Wait I found something else
 * 20:54:44: Atvelonis: https://i.gyazo.com/5d63b192fc5840a1121c1cfe23743aef.png
 * 20:55:02: Atvelonis: The highlight is the aura around the character when you put your mouse over them, I'm pretty sure
 * 20:55:04: Nekyn Alb: Mudcrabs and such are yellow, right?
 * 20:55:12: Nekyn Alb: yes
 * 20:55:15: Nekyn Alb: I disabled it
 * 20:55:19: Rozty: mudcrabs are non hostile?
 * 20:55:22: Amulet of Kings: Yes
 * 20:55:30: Atvelonis: Coral crabs are non-hostile, I think they're yellow?
 * 20:55:33: Amulet of Kings: They only attack you if bothered
 * 20:55:47: Nekyn Alb: Coral crabs are fancy mudcrabs with waterguns
 * 20:56:00: TinyClayMan: And no moustaches
 * 20:56:22: Amulet of Kings: I think what I said summarizes it
 * 20:56:23: Atvelonis: There is another section
 * 20:56:24: Atvelonis: "Indicators"
 * 20:56:44: TinyClayMan: Checked the NPCS that were hostile before the quest - yellow now
 * 20:56:53: Atvelonis: https://i.gyazo.com/d54c2f3513ddbc0ebbfccbee2fd58962.png
 * 20:57:07: The Crusader of Truth: I applaud you all
 * 20:57:08: Rozty: this is out off topic in this convo, but nehk that texture you sent a while back is from a coral crab
 * 20:57:10: Atvelonis: Looks like the target glow is the term they're using for disposition
 * 20:57:17: Rozty: i just pieced it together
 * 20:57:39: The Crusader of Truth: This is the most confusing moot topic I've seen this year
 * 20:57:42: Atvelonis: "Displays a glow around your target. The color of the glow represents their disposition towards you."
 * 20:58:02: Atvelonis: Let me disable this and see if it affects the outlines
 * 20:58:07: Nekyn Alb: ohh
 * 20:58:14: Amulet of Kings: But it also gives information about the bounty received
 * 20:58:15: Nekyn Alb: makes sense
 * 20:58:27: Atvelonis: Yeah it does it
 * 20:58:28: TinyClayMan: It does affect them (checked)
 * 20:58:42: Amulet of Kings: Try killing that yellow monk
 * 20:59:11: Atvelonis: she became hostile and her outline turned red
 * 20:59:15: Atvelonis: she fought back
 * 20:59:21: Atvelonis: i don't think i've received a bounty?
 * 20:59:25: TinyClayMan: I am confused about the monks now. Why don't I have the outline?
 * 20:59:50: Amulet of Kings: You would know if you had a bounty, trust me
 * 21:00:04: Amulet of Kings: I've cleared Daggerfall castle more than once
 * 21:00:37: Atvelonis: Yeah no bounty
 * 21:00:59: Amulet of Kings: Killing a white NPC won't turn it red, but you will get a bounty
 * 21:01:01: Atvelonis: I get a bounty from someone with the white outline
 * 21:01:01: Atvelonis: Yes
 * 21:01:04: Atvelonis: outline stays white
 * 21:01:46: Atvelonis: Well when he dies his outline becomes yellow, but that's because he's dead
 * 21:01:52: Atvelonis: I think enemies have the yellow outline when they die as well
 * 21:02:11: Rozty: don't you just have that turned off clay?
 * 21:02:41: Rozty: is it a different yellow from the ones that turn hostile and give no bounty?
 * 21:02:55: Amulet of Kings: Yes
 * 21:02:56: TinyClayMan: I have it turned on
 * 21:03:09: Rozty: so we have 4 colours so far
 * 21:03:14: Amulet of Kings: It is a lighter yellow that means that the body of the NPC has loot
 * 21:03:14: Atvelonis: Yes it's a different yellow
 * 21:03:15: TinyClayMan: But the monks in the Monastery of Serene Harmony don't have the outline
 * 21:03:26: Atvelonis: Did you finish the questline?
 * 21:03:30: Atvelonis: I'm on the first quest still
 * 21:03:37: Atvelonis: Might have something to do with it
 * 21:03:39: TinyClayMan: I finished the queen's decree
 * 21:03:48: Atvelonis: I haven't. So that might be it
 * 21:03:53: Amulet of Kings: After looting him the yellow will disappeat
 * 21:04:08: Rozty: so now that we have that figured out
 * 21:04:10: Rozty: what
 * 21:04:12: Atvelonis: The loot yellow is a little different, it's lighter
 * 21:04:15: TinyClayMan: Loot-yellow is not connected to hostility
 * 21:04:17: Atvelonis: Yeah
 * 21:04:19: Atvelonis: It's just there
 * 21:04:28: Atvelonis: Happens to look like the hostility yellow
 * 21:04:31: Amulet of Kings: It has nothing to do with the other three color
 * 21:04:32: Amulet of Kings: s
 * 21:04:56: Rozty: what do we do with the colours now
 * 21:05:51: TinyClayMan: Red: Hostile
 * 21:06:17: Amulet of Kings: ^
 * 21:06:34: Atvelonis: I suppose that works
 * 21:07:39: Atvelonis: What should we call the variable?
 * 21:07:54: TinyClayMan: Hostility
 * 21:07:54: The Crusader of Truth: The same thing as it would be for the Skyrim template, I assume
 * 21:07:57: Rozty: hostility?
 * 21:08:06: Rozty: aggression then?
 * 21:08:15: Atvelonis: Has it been added to the Skyrim template?
 * 21:08:16: Amulet of Kings: Essential isn't a hostility level either
 * 21:08:17: Atvelonis: I don't see it
 * 21:08:23: The Crusader of Truth: No, it hasn't.
 * 21:08:30: Atvelonis: What did we agree on?
 * 21:08:33: Atvelonis: For skyrim
 * 21:08:41: Rozty: i think it was aggression
 * 21:09:04: The Crusader of Truth: And the moot summary doesn't say /what/ the variable is, just that we decided to do it.
 * 21:09:13: Atvelonis: Aggression yes
 * 21:09:17: Atvelonis: 22:21:26: Atvelonis: So the topic is to add an "aggression" parameter to infoboxes and insert the default info in the dropdown, "Unaggressive" or "Aggressive" or "Very Aggressive" or "Frenzied"
 * 21:09:26: The Crusader of Truth: Oh oof I didn't see that
 * 21:09:30: The Crusader of Truth: Suicide time
 * 21:09:46: Atvelonis: So we could do the same thing for ESO
 * 21:09:48: Atvelonis: Aggression
 * 21:09:48: TinyClayMan: The No-color doesn't fit
 * 21:09:57: TinyClayMan: Or how do we call no-color
 * 21:10:00: Atvelonis: Essential is a different matter
 * 21:10:14: Atvelonis: I think in that case, for aggression we would just say friendly
 * 21:10:21: Atvelonis: Or maybe friendly (no outline)
 * 21:10:23: Atvelonis: Or something
 * 21:10:49: Atvelonis: It wouldn't hurt to also add an essential variable to the infobox for ESO, I think
 * 21:10:51: Rozty: shouldn't we say something about essentiality
 * 21:10:56: TinyClayMan: What if we simply use colors as a value for this parameter
 * 21:11:05: Atvelonis: Not everyone has the colors enabled
 * 21:11:10: Atvelonis: And some people are colorblind
 * 21:11:25: The Crusader of Truth: I'm not sure if it'd be a good idea if we just spent an hour trying to figure out the colors, too
 * 21:11:34: The Crusader of Truth: Readers probably won't know either
 * 21:11:55: Atvelonis: Friendly/neutral/hostile works I think
 * 21:12:00: KINMUNE: Hello there, Lost Planet and dead space!
 * 21:12:04: Atvelonis: And then how about we also add an essential parameter, just Yes/No
 * 21:12:05: Atvelonis: Hi
 * 21:12:06: TinyClayMan: Upd on Atvelonis color: I would say thay was lemon grass green
 * 21:12:10: Amulet of Kings: What if we divide the information into different parameters?
 * 21:12:14: Lost Planet and dead space: Hello
 * 21:12:20: TinyClayMan: Greetings
 * 21:12:24: Amulet of Kings: Essential: Yes/No
 * 21:12:27: Atvelonis: Man we should also do respawn
 * 21:12:31: Atvelonis: Because some characters do respawn
 * 21:12:38: Amulet of Kings: Hostility: Hostile/ Non-hostile
 * 21:12:45: The Crusader of Truth: Don't they all respawn?
 * 21:12:46: Amulet of Kings: Bounty: Yes/No
 * 21:12:48: Atvelonis: No
 * 21:12:53: Atvelonis: uhh
 * 21:12:57: Atvelonis: wait maybe
 * 21:13:06: TinyClayMan: Only the almost generic characters respawn
 * 21:13:08: The Crusader of Truth: (thinking))
 * 21:13:11: Lost Planet and dead space: I feel like I walked into chat at the wrong time
 * 21:13:20: The Crusader of Truth: Nah just a moot, welcome
 * 21:13:20: Amulet of Kings: All of them respawn, unless they are quest related
 * 21:13:21: Atvelonis: We're in a moot - you can stay if you'd like
 * 21:13:24: TinyClayMan: Some characters during quests do not respawn
 * 21:13:37: Lost Planet and dead space: I'm gonna just watch.
 * 21:13:50: The Crusader of Truth: Well I guess technically all characters respawn
 * 21:13:52: The Great Laggi: Same
 * 21:14:04: TinyClayMan: |respawn
 * hostility
 * essentiality
 * bounty
 * 21:14:08: The Crusader of Truth: Because if they die in a quest for one player, they're dead for them, but they have to be respawned for another player's quest
 * 21:14:10: Amulet of Kings: Otherwise other players wouldn't get to know them
 * 21:14:13: Atvelonis: aggression
 * 21:14:21: Atvelonis: Not hostility - consistent with other games
 * 21:14:26: TinyClayMan: Okay
 * 21:14:43: Lost Planet and dead space: So what's this moot about?
 * 21:14:47: The Crusader of Truth: /Can we just burn ESO/
 * 21:14:49: Atvelonis: @Crus: yeah but for one playthrough is what's important
 * 21:14:51: TinyClayMan: (although, hostility sounds better)
 * 21:14:54: The Crusader of Truth: Hmm true
 * 21:15:08: The Crusader of Truth: @Lost We're discussing the hostility of ESO characters in variables
 * 21:15:14: Atvelonis: @Planet: The moot is a monthly meeting between editors/users. We talk about whatever is brought up
 * 21:15:58: Atvelonis: Not sure bounty is necessary, it's implicit with aggression, no?
 * 21:16:25: Lost Planet and dead space: I'm interested and confused by this.
 * 21:16:40: TinyClayMan: It is affected by white and yellow outlines
 * 21:16:47: Amulet of Kings: Yellow NPCs are not aggresive but don't give bounty
 * 21:16:59: Atvelonis: So maybe it would be better to just discuss the bounty in the justice system page
 * 21:17:06: Amulet of Kings: Ok
 * 21:17:08: Atvelonis: https://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Justice_System
 * 21:17:11: Atvelonis: This article sucks by the way
 * 21:17:17: The Crusader of Truth: Can we plz just burn this entire discussion
 * 21:17:26: Rozty: oof
 * 21:17:47: Amulet of Kings: As a thieves guild and Dark Brotherhood jack of all trades I can edit that page
 * 21:17:54: Rozty: why are we still talking about this anyway, didn't we sort out the colours
 * 21:18:10: Rozty: you go do it amulet
 * 21:18:13: The Crusader of Truth: Fair point?
 * 21:18:13: Atvelonis: The discussion evolved into parameters in general
 * 21:18:20: Atvelonis: Lemme sum it up hold on
 * 21:18:26: Amulet of Kings: I think we don't want to continue with our responsibilities
 * 21:18:47: The Crusader of Truth: *cough* me
 * 21:18:50: The Crusader of Truth: Just kidding
 * 21:18:53: Rozty: *cough* also me
 * 21:18:54: TinyClayMan: @Rozty 12:11
 * 21:18:56: The Crusader of Truth: Although I am pretty lost right now
 * 21:19:14: Rozty: that's a big oof if playing the game
 * 21:19:20: The Crusader of Truth: I personally could have swore we figured it out a bit ago
 * 21:19:22: KINMUNE: Hello there, Kora Stormblade!
 * 21:19:23: The Crusader of Truth: o//
 * 21:19:24: Rozty: but how did the discussion evolve into this
 * 21:19:28: The Crusader of Truth: feck
 * 21:19:29: The Crusader of Truth: o/
 * 21:19:31: Rozty: me too
 * 21:19:36: Kora Stormblade: ay sup
 * 21:19:36: Atvelonis: So the proposal will have us document the following things:
 * essential = Yes/No
 * aggression = Friendly, Neutral, Hostile
 * respawn = Yes/No
 * 21:19:36: Rozty: o/
 * 21:19:37: Atvelonis: ????
 * 21:19:38: Lost Planet and dead space: ESO is confusing.
 * 21:19:39: TinyClayMan: Top ten moots gone totally wrong
 * 21:19:44: Kora Stormblade: oh fuck is this a moot
 * 21:19:47: Atvelonis: The first two I think we've decided on, more or less
 * 21:19:49: Atvelonis: Hi Kora
 * 21:19:50: The Crusader of Truth: Yee this is moot
 * 21:19:51: The Crusader of Truth: Welcome
 * 21:19:52: Kora Stormblade: hey atv
 * 21:20:14: The Crusader of Truth: @Atv proposal sounds good to me
 * 21:20:19: Rozty: ok, but is this only for eso or for the rest games as well
 * 21:20:22: Atvelonis: ESO only
 * 21:20:25: Rozty: ok
 * 21:20:29: Atvelonis: Because it's special and stupid
 * 21:20:31: Rozty: sounds good
 * 21:20:34: The Crusader of Truth: Skyrim would still have aggression
 * 21:20:40: The Crusader of Truth: b/c consistency
 * 21:20:44: TinyClayMan: I think that |respawn's use should be clarified
 * 21:20:44: The Crusader of Truth: But otherwise yes
 * 21:20:51: The Crusader of Truth: What do you mean?
 * 21:20:56: Lost Planet and dead space: I was actually playing ESO just before.
 * 21:21:09: TinyClayMan: Does killing one of those city characters count as a permanent lore death?
 * 21:21:14: Rozty: how more clarified can we get from there
 * 21:21:20: Atvelonis: I'm not sure what you mean
 * 21:21:27: Atvelonis: I think that would count as respawn = No
 * 21:21:29: Amulet of Kings: No, they respawn
 * 21:21:34: Atvelonis: Because they respawn for you in the same playthrough
 * 21:21:50: The Crusader of Truth: my head hurts now
 * 21:21:51: Rozty: respawn is a game mechanic anyway
 * 21:22:04: Rozty: i don't think anyone will think about lore when seeing it
 * 21:22:12: Rozty: why did this get so confusing
 * 21:22:14: Atvelonis: For an essential NPC who later becomes unessential, so that you can kill them, we would write |essential = Yes, until "questname" and |respawn = No
 * 21:22:16: Amulet of Kings: I'm going to work on that page, see you /o
 * 21:22:16: TinyClayMan: Okay (I just unnecessary complicate things)
 * 21:22:20: Kora Stormblade: in terms of lore each person's playthrough is canon so it's best to just stick to the mechanics of the game itself
 * 21:22:22: Kora Stormblade: see ya
 * 21:22:24: Rozty: see ya o/
 * 21:22:27: Rozty: make it great
 * 21:22:31: The Crusader of Truth: o/
 * 21:22:56: Rozty: are we ready to vote now?
 * 21:23:04: Atvelonis: does anyone want more clarification?
 * 21:23:09: Rozty: what else can we possibly discuss about this
 * 21:23:21: The Crusader of Truth: (kappa)
 * 21:23:28: Kora Stormblade: inb4 mass chat ping
 * 21:23:36: The Crusader of Truth: inb4 it is about to happen
 * 21:23:37: Rozty: you are getting ideas aren't you (thinking)
 * 21:23:38: Atvelonis: So the proposal is to add the following variables to ESO character articles with the following options:
 * essential = Yes/No
 * aggression = Friendly, Neutral, Hostile
 * respawn = Yes/No
 * 21:23:45: Atvelonis: clarification time has ended
 * 21:23:46: Atvelonis: (+)
 * 21:23:47: Rozty: (+)
 * 21:23:50: Atvelonis: 2-0-0
 * 21:23:50: Kora Stormblade: I would agree with crus in adding it to skyrim tbh
 * 21:23:51: The Crusader of Truth: Thank God
 * 21:23:51: TinyClayMan: +
 * 21:23:58: Atvelonis: (+) Tiny
 * 21:24:05: The Crusader of Truth: @everyone  Vote time
 * 21:24:06: TinyClayMan: (+)
 * 21:24:08: The Great Laggi: (+)
 * 21:24:10: Rozty: there it is
 * 21:24:10: The Crusader of Truth: (+)
 * 21:24:11: Atvelonis: 5-0-0
 * 21:24:14: Lost Planet and dead space: +
 * 21:24:15: Kora Stormblade: I didnt get pinged lel
 * 21:24:21: The Crusader of Truth: Wait! I forgot a variable
 * 21:24:22: The Great Laggi: i am alive btw
 * 21:24:22: The Crusader of Truth: jk
 * 21:24:23: Atvelonis: Crus work your magic
 * 21:24:27: The Crusader of Truth: i did tho
 * 21:24:28: Atvelonis: ping everyone
 * 21:24:31: Kora Stormblade: yuh
 * 21:24:32: Atvelonis: kora didn't get pinged
 * 21:24:36: Atvelonis: obviously you did it wrong
 * 21:24:40: Atvelonis: kek
 * 21:24:40: Kora Stormblade: yea stupid
 * 21:24:44: Kora Stormblade: gosh
 * 21:24:48: Rozty: Kora Stormblade
 * 21:24:51: Kora Stormblade: no
 * 21:24:53: Rozty: did i get ya
 * 21:24:54: The Crusader of Truth: K o r a . S t o r m b l a d e
 * 21:24:56: Rozty: heck
 * 21:24:56: Kora Stormblade: no b
 * 21:25:00: Kora Stormblade: wait shit haha
 * 21:25:03: Rozty: no red name?
 * 21:25:07: Kora Stormblade: i d o nt h a ve p i n g s s e t
 * 21:25:10: The Crusader of Truth: No p i ng s on
 * 21:25:12: Kora Stormblade: :)
 * 21:25:19: The Crusader of Truth: Evil whipper snapper
 * 21:25:20: Kora Stormblade: gotchya bitches
 * 21:25:21: Atvelonis: @Lost planet: if you want your vote to count, you have to do (+)
 * 21:25:27: Lost Planet and dead space: Oh
 * 21:25:36: Kora Stormblade: ight now I got it
 * 21:25:37: Kora Stormblade: yeet
 * 21:25:46: The Crusader of Truth: Kora Stormblade
 * 21:25:48: The Crusader of Truth: *dabs*
 * 21:25:49: Kora Stormblade: hiya
 * 21:25:54: Kora Stormblade: *shoots*
 * 21:26:00: The Crusader of Truth: Vote ya skanky loser
 * 21:26:00: Atvelonis: So is anyone else voting?
 * 21:26:05: Kora Stormblade: (+)
 * 21:26:08: Atvelonis: 6-0-0
 * 21:26:10: Lost Planet and dead space: I'm gonna fix my vote
 * 21:26:15: Lost Planet and dead space: (+)
 * 21:26:17: Atvelonis: 7-0-0
 * 21:26:18: Kora Stormblade: yay
 * 21:26:22: Rozty: it has ended
 * 21:26:24: Kora Stormblade: 7 is my lucky number
 * 21:26:30: Atvelonis: kora get that cat profile picture again
 * 21:26:32: Atvelonis: blank pfp is boring
 * 21:26:34: Kora Stormblade: like the other millions of people who have it
 * 21:26:35: The Crusader of Truth: 7 isn't my lucky number
 * 21:26:38: Kora Stormblade: ight one sec I might
 * 21:26:38: Atvelonis: the one where its hands are out
 * 21:26:40: Atvelonis: on the chair
 * 21:26:42: Atvelonis: you know what i mean
 * 21:26:43: Kora Stormblade: ya I know that one
 * 21:26:45: Rozty: so it wasn't just me having issues
 * 21:26:46: The Crusader of Truth: Yes
 * 21:26:46: The Crusader of Truth: plz
 * 21:26:54: Kora Stormblade: gimme a min Ill get it up rq
 * 21:27:00: Lost Planet and dead space: I can't get profile pics
 * 21:27:03: Atvelonis: Yeah you can
 * 21:27:09: Atvelonis: Go to your profile and add a picture
 * 21:27:11: Atvelonis: boom
 * 21:27:22: Lost Planet and dead space: Im on mobile
 * 21:27:24: TinyClayMan: If anyone is interested, I have another suggestion (lennyface)
 * 21:27:30: Rozty: still the same
 * 21:27:35: Rozty: i think
 * 21:27:37: Atvelonis: You can still do it Planet
 * 21:27:44: Atvelonis: User:Lost Planet and dead space
 * 21:27:45: Rozty: or just do it from the app
 * 21:27:57: Rozty: wait
 * 21:27:58: The Crusader of Truth: Please God no
 * 21:28:02: Rozty: more suggestions?
 * 21:28:07: Rozty: what is it (kappa)
 * 21:28:09: Lost Planet and dead space: My iPad can't install the app.
 * 21:28:10: Atvelonis: So the parameter thing is done
 * 21:28:15: Atvelonis: @TinyClayMan: next topic?
 * 21:28:17: Atvelonis: pls not as confusing
 * 21:28:19: The Crusader of Truth: I will actually run away
 * 21:28:34: Rozty: if it is confusing i'm bailing (kappa)
 * 21:28:41: The Great Laggi: i want to die
 * 21:28:44: Rozty: me too
 * 21:28:46: The Crusader of Truth: Me too
 * 21:28:53: The Great Laggi: like
 * 21:28:53: Atvelonis: 1-800-273-8255
 * 21:28:55: The Crusader of Truth: hey thats my line
 * 21:28:55: TinyClayMan: To add a template for objects or interactables
 * 21:28:56: Atvelonis: do not kill yourself
 * 21:29:00: Rozty: wait your turn crus smh
 * 21:29:01: Kora Stormblade: bet
 * 21:29:01: The Great Laggi: god that took so long
 * 21:29:11: The Crusader of Truth: Make me
 * 21:29:17: Atvelonis: @TinyClayMan: can you give an example?
 * 21:29:34: The Crusader of Truth: Those are some brave words for someone within reach of my hefty ban button
 * 21:29:40: Rozty: are objects different from items
 * 21:29:48: TinyClayMan: Swarming Dwemer Spider appear of an object called "Steam Pipe"
 * 21:29:53: Kora Stormblade: i wonder if when I leave renz will mention me being on his crush list for the 3rd time
 * 21:29:54: TinyClayMan: out of*
 * 21:30:05: Rozty: (how do you have a ban button if you aren't chat mod (thinking))
 * 21:30:07: The Crusader of Truth: (thinking)
 * 21:30:09: TinyClayMan: It can be interacted to get loot
 * 21:30:14: The Crusader of Truth: Nibba Im a chat mod
 * 21:30:22: Rozty: what
 * 21:30:22: Atvelonis: Oh so it's something you walk up to and interact with
 * 21:30:23: Rozty: oof
 * 21:30:24: The Crusader of Truth: It's in my resume
 * 21:30:25: Atvelonis: Ehm
 * 21:30:40: The Crusader of Truth: https://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Special:ListUsers
 * 21:30:49: Atvelonis: I think those things don't really even need their own pages. We could just have Interactable Objects (Online) with a few tables of content
 * 21:30:53: TinyClayMan: (afair, there 3 objects that can spawn creatures)
 * 21:30:54: Atvelonis: /similar title
 * 21:31:04: The Crusader of Truth: Sorry I'm getting off topic
 * 21:31:06: Atvelonis: Yeah I've seen one of those
 * 21:31:12: Atvelonis: Something swarm hive thing
 * 21:31:20: Atvelonis: Zainsipilu. Forgot the exact name
 * 21:31:39: Atvelonis: https://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Fetcherfly_Hive
 * 21:31:49: TinyClayMan: /if we had that article, maybe the template would be unnecessary
 * 21:31:57: RenzXVI: Kora! You are on my Crush list!
 * 21:31:59: Lost Planet and dead space: I'm too lazy to go kill molag bal on ESO.
 * 21:32:04: RenzXVI: I was eating noodles.
 * 21:32:12: TinyClayMan: (upd - 4 objects that spawn creatures)
 * 21:32:14: The Crusader of Truth: Plz stop saying /crus/h k thx
 * 21:32:16: Atvelonis: I think the creature ones can have their own, and just be classified as creatures
 * 21:32:31: Atvelonis: They will probably have many locations that need to be listed
 * 21:32:32: Lost Planet and dead space: Renz what flavour are the noodles?
 * 21:32:34: Atvelonis: i.e. not good table content
 * 21:32:37: Atvelonis: bullets + tables = mess
 * 21:32:38: RenzXVI: Mushrooms
 * 21:32:49: TinyClayMan: Oh wait
 * 21:33:01: TinyClayMan: That fetchfly nest is actually a creature
 * 21:33:18: TinyClayMan: The objects that I had in mind a more like containers
 * 21:33:21: TinyClayMan: are*
 * 21:33:22: Rozty: what exactly would need to be in an inofbox if we made one?
 * 21:33:28: Atvelonis: Do any of them have articles right now?
 * 21:33:30: Lost Planet and dead space: Should I go kill molag bal?
 * 21:33:38: Lost Planet and dead space: Maybe I should go kill him
 * 21:33:43: Kora Stormblade: ight bitches
 * 21:33:47: Kora Stormblade: I got a new look
 * 21:33:47: TinyClayMan: Interactable yes\no
 * 21:34:05: Atvelonis: I don't think we give containers articles
 * 21:34:09: Rozty: (hooray for kora's new look)
 * 21:34:10: RenzXVI: Haven't you used that before?
 * 21:34:12: Kora Stormblade: yay
 * 21:34:13: TinyClayMan: No, there are no articles on that (i just included info about these objects in creatures articles)
 * 21:34:18: Atvelonis: imo it would be best to just make a big page
 * 21:34:46: Lost Planet and dead space: I literally cannot do profile pics
 * 21:34:55: Atvelonis: yes... you can
 * 21:35:11: RenzXVI: Anything less than 300x300, I think.
 * 21:35:15: Atvelonis: https://i.gyazo.com/8aff10862e3f4eceb40fe403b88abe74.png
 * 21:35:18: Atvelonis: click button
 * 21:35:20: RenzXVI: Wikia keeps making it smaller and smaller.
 * 21:35:32: Atvelonis: https://i.gyazo.com/d0f8d3271c94064dd59e759365130003.png
 * 21:35:35: The Crusader of Truth: 5mb
 * 21:35:35: Atvelonis: upload picture from pc
 * 21:35:37: Atvelonis: or phone
 * 21:35:38: TinyClayMan: So we just need to create an article that would include all the objects?
 * 21:35:39: Rozty: if there's not much you can put in an infobox, i think it would be better to have tables for them
 * 21:35:39: Atvelonis: save
 * 21:35:42: The Crusader of Truth: Or something 5
 * 21:35:44: Atvelonis: @TinyClayMan: yes
 * 21:35:54: Lost Planet and dead space: My pics do not fit
 * 21:35:57: TinyClayMan: Okay. That should be enough then
 * 21:35:57: Atvelonis: Interactable Objects (Online) or Interactable Items (Online)
 * 21:35:59: Atvelonis: Or something
 * 21:36:12: Rozty: find smaller pics smh
 * 21:36:24: The Crusader of Truth: Shrink them in an editor
 * 21:36:26: Rozty: download an image from the internet and put it there
 * 21:36:27: Lost Planet and dead space: I cannot find small pics
 * 21:36:36: Atvelonis: use Google search tool
 * 21:36:47: Rozty: it's impossible to not find small pictures
 * 21:36:48: Atvelonis: there's an option to sort by size
 * 21:36:50: The Crusader of Truth: Literally just hit small on the google search tools list
 * 21:36:52: Atvelonis: ANYWAY
 * 21:36:56: Atvelonis: Back to items thinig
 * 21:37:09: Atvelonis: Is everyone good with making a combined page for interactable items/objects?
 * 21:37:17: Atvelonis: If so, which of those terms should bu used?
 * 21:37:18: Rozty: (+)
 * 21:37:23: Rozty: oh, not vote
 * 21:37:27: Rozty: heck
 * 21:37:28: TinyClayMan: Probably objects
 * 21:37:30: The Crusader of Truth: Objects
 * 21:37:33: Atvelonis: Ok
 * 21:37:34: Rozty: objects
 * 21:37:35: Atvelonis: Objects it is
 * 21:37:36: Atvelonis: (+)
 * 21:37:40: Rozty: (+)\
 * 21:37:41: TinyClayMan: (+)
 * 21:37:41: The Crusader of Truth: (+)
 * 21:37:43: Atvelonis: 4-0-0
 * 21:37:57: The Crusader of Truth: @humans  Vote
 * 21:37:57: Rozty: do i mass ping
 * 21:38:00: Kora Stormblade: ugh
 * 21:38:00: Rozty: oh
 * 21:38:06: Lost Planet and dead space: (+)
 * 21:38:09: Rozty: why is humans a ping
 * 21:38:11: Kora Stormblade: (=) since I'm not really sure
 * 21:38:21: The Crusader of Truth: Because nothing is a ping
 * 21:38:23: Atvelonis: 5-1-0
 * 21:38:26: The Crusader of Truth: But everything is too
 * 21:38:27: Lost Planet and dead space: When on mobile there's no damn Google
 * 21:38:35: The Great Laggi: (+)
 * 21:38:36: Lost Planet and dead space: No small button
 * 21:38:39: Atvelonis: literally just open a tab in safari and open google
 * 21:38:39: Rozty: yes there is ffs
 * 21:38:44: Atvelonis: click on tools
 * 21:38:55: Atvelonis: might be under another button, "options" or "more" etc.
 * 21:38:57: The Crusader of Truth: @the liberals are turning the frogs gay
 * 21:39:00: Atvelonis: 6-1-0
 * 21:39:04: Rozty: *why*
 * 21:39:14: Rozty: who made those pings
 * 21:39:42: The Crusader of Truth: @hint there's more magic behind it
 * 21:40:02: TinyClayMan: @Baar Dau was an inside job
 * 21:40:08: The Crusader of Truth: *dab*
 * 21:40:14: Rozty: do you just put an @ before any random phrase and turn it into a ping
 * 21:40:19: Rozty: HOW
 * 21:40:20: The Crusader of Truth: @no
 * 21:40:26: Atvelonis: Options -> Enable chathacks
 * 21:40:27: The Crusader of Truth: I am powerful
 * 21:40:32: Rozty: oh
 * 21:40:34: Lost Planet and dead space: I found Google xD
 * 21:40:34: Atvelonis: Then on the top left you can fill out your ping phrases
 * 21:40:49: Rozty: no, my ping phrases are nothinh liek that
 * 21:40:51: Lost Planet and dead space: Tho no small tool just icon size
 * 21:40:56: Rozty: nothing like*
 * 21:41:06: Atvelonis: Crus is using a special magic trick to ping you
 * 21:41:13: The Crusader of Truth: Only space aliens will get pinged by this
 * 21:41:23: Rozty: (thinking)
 * 21:41:25: Lost Planet and dead space: xD
 * 21:41:56: Rozty: (btw the vote is over right?)
 * 21:42:03: Atvelonis: Unless anyone else wants to vote
 * 21:42:06: The Crusader of Truth: Bote is vover
 * 21:42:09: Atvelonis: Nekyn? Renz?
 * 21:42:11: Atvelonis: KINMUNE?
 * 21:42:18: Kora Stormblade: yo can someone verify me as a member on discord rq
 * 21:42:27: Rozty: KINMUNE do you want to vote on this?
 * 21:42:31: The Crusader of Truth: I thought you were gone tho
 * 21:42:32: RenzXVI: I just got backed, I didn't catch the whole topic. So no vote
 * 21:42:36: Atvelonis: done
 * 21:42:41: Rozty: didn't it answer yes or no questions?
 * 21:42:43: The Crusader of Truth: nevarmeoind
 * 21:43:01: Atvelonis: KINMUNE, what do you say?
 * 21:43:03: KINMUNE: Ask SuperSajuuk, he probably knows.
 * 21:43:08: Lost Planet and dead space: I found only icon size
 * 21:43:08: Atvelonis: kek
 * 21:43:11: The Crusader of Truth: KINMUNE, shut the fuck up?
 * 21:43:12: Rozty: stupid comma
 * 21:43:12: KINMUNE: Yes.
 * 21:43:30: Kora Stormblade: Yes.
 * 21:43:34: Rozty: Yes.
 * 21:43:39: The Crusader of Truth: KINMUNE, what is love? [|]
 * 21:43:42: KINMUNE: I love YEETING!!
 * 21:43:52: Rozty: love is Yeet
 * 21:44:04: Rozty: KINMUNE, who made you say that?
 * 21:44:06: KINMUNE: No.
 * 21:44:18: Lost Planet and dead space: KINMUNE, Who is controlling you?
 * 21:44:18: KINMUNE: Not even remotely.
 * 21:44:28: The Crusader of Truth: insert dramatically formatted evil chuckle here
 * 21:44:42: Rozty: (kappa)
 * 21:44:58: Atvelonis: Flightmare controls her, not "Who"
 * 21:44:59: RenzXVI: KOra. Why did you say that earlier? You were reading chat logs? Is that bad? XD
 * 21:45:10: Lost Planet and dead space: The things I'm trying to find are not there on google
 * 21:45:17: The Crusader of Truth: KINMUNE, what is Kora's favorite hobby? [|]
 * 21:45:19: KINMUNE: Dabbing for 24 hours straight
 * 21:45:25: The Great Laggi: ooh
 * 21:45:25: Lost Planet and dead space: Theres all random things when I search for one damn thing
 * 21:45:38: RenzXVI: If it makes you feel better, Flightmare is my Man-crush and he's still around. XD
 * 21:45:38: Atvelonis: Get better at searching
 * 21:45:41: Lost Planet and dead space: KINMUNE, Do you like Dark Souls?
 * 21:45:43: KINMUNE: Not even remotely.
 * 21:45:43: Lost Planet and dead space: xD
 * 21:46:33: Lost Planet and dead space: I'm starting to get pissed at Google.
 * 21:47:28: The Crusader of Truth: [|]
 * 21:47:32: Rozty: maybe google is pissed at you too
 * 21:47:32: KINMUNE: FLEX SEAL™ - Stop Leaks Fast! Liquid Rubber Sealant In An Aerosol Spray!
 * 21:47:34: Rozty: how
 * 21:47:58: Lost Planet and dead space: I been searching for Red Eye.
 * 21:48:11: Lost Planet and dead space: Red Eye is mah favourite lost planet boss.
 * 21:48:31: Rozty: https://gyazo.com/d439a2db1ab7022d7f09a04d01a4a29f
 * 21:48:34: The Crusader of Truth: Hey guys
 * 21:48:37: The Crusader of Truth: Did anyone uh
 * 21:48:41: Rozty: is no one going to comment on this
 * 21:48:45: The Crusader of Truth: Ever say the moot was over
 * 21:48:54: Rozty: i don't think so
 * 21:49:00: Rozty: (thinking)
 * 21:49:04: The Crusader of Truth: Because I log until someone says the moot is over
 * 21:49:04: TinyClayMan: No, you can still bring a topic to a discussion
 * 21:49:05: The Crusader of Truth: So uh
 * 21:49:10: TinyClayMan: (hehe)
 * 21:49:12: The Crusader of Truth: the moot is over