The Elder Scrolls Wiki:Moot/Log 2015 December 05

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 * 20:59:48: Cheatcodechamp: Ok, let start with last weeks moot
 * 20:59:55: Cheatcodechamp: Summary on the bottom of course/
 * 21:00:28: Cheatcodechamp: We have yet to update the task list. We did talk about some ideas, but none where put into practice
 * 21:00:41: Bronkiin: We're so slack (facepalm)
 * 21:00:45: ~*LilithRayn*~: ^
 * 21:00:52: Timeoin: I had stuff on :'(
 * 21:01:04: ~*LilithRayn*~: <3 Tim
 * 21:01:06: Cheatcodechamp: Sleeping and Finelia's rights where removed as we agreed, and Gamin has until the end of the month as he said he would return
 * 21:01:17: Bronkiin: End of the month? Ok
 * 21:01:18: Timeoin: thanks Lilith :)
 * 21:01:25: Cheatcodechamp: if he does not return, we will revisit his role as staff
 * 21:01:27: ~*LilithRayn*~: We are waiting until the end? I thought we were deciding today
 * 21:01:29: Timeoin: I hope Gamin returns
 * 21:01:37: Bronkiin: ^
 * 21:01:42: Cheatcodechamp: Gaminomicon is a Patroller, and is already marked as inactive. A few months back he left the wiki to handle real life situations, and has only recently shown up again to let us know he hopes to return soon. We decided that we will give him time to return as he said he would before we remove his rights. 7-0.
 * 21:01:48: Bronkiin: Yep
 * 21:01:55: ~*LilithRayn*~: Ah, ok.
 * 21:02:07: Timeoin: Personally, I would say we delay this one if we can
 * 21:02:07: Cheatcodechamp: He said he would return in December, we have some time left.
 * 21:02:18: ~*LilithRayn*~: Understood. ^_^
 * 21:02:25: Timeoin: RL issues can take longer than anticipated
 * 21:02:32: RenzXVI: Yeah, finish December.
 * 21:02:34: Cheatcodechamp: So, onto the moot. Lilith, you have the floor, proceed when ready
 * 21:02:39: Timeoin: if we get to, say, April and he hasnt returned? :P
 * 21:02:42: ~*LilithRayn*~: Oh! I get to go first??
 * 21:02:47: Bronkiin: December, Tim
 * 21:02:54: Bronkiin: But yeh, Lil
 * 21:02:55: ~*LilithRayn*~: Ok! Well I am bring this up for other members that could not be here.
 * 21:02:57: Timeoin: its not April atm? :P
 * 21:02:59: ~*LilithRayn*~: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gX5-ggPoI5zlhd78wNc-kFXa-ur-_AgWR-rZnHG3rM8/edit#
 * 21:03:33: Qahnaarin1997: Hello.
 * 21:03:41: Timeoin: hello
 * 21:03:42: ~*LilithRayn*~: The gist of it is really that the rules are not being fully enforced. Some of the other members have complained to be about it recently and would like it discussed.
 * 21:03:46: ~*LilithRayn*~: Hello, Qahn!
 * 21:03:51: Qahnaarin1997: Hi Tim, and Lilith.
 * 21:04:07: Qahnaarin1997: Has Moot started yet>
 * 21:04:09: Qahnaarin1997: *?
 * 21:04:15: ~*LilithRayn*~: Yes, just brought up the first topic
 * 21:04:21: Qahnaarin1997: okay good.
 * 21:04:37: Timeoin: Qahn - the google doc link
 * 21:04:44: Qahnaarin1997: okay.
 * 21:05:22: ~*LilithRayn*~: The members have complained of inappropriate links being posted in main chat, tons of youtube links. Inappropriate behavior to others, and it not being handled right.
 * 21:05:39: ~*LilithRayn*~: I think some of the rules should be more specific, as well as others being changed.
 * 21:06:19: Bronkiin: Who wrote the document?
 * 21:06:30: Timeoin: it shouldnt matter :)
 * 21:06:31: ~*LilithRayn*~: I hadn't planned on name dropping.
 * 21:06:32: ~*LilithRayn*~: lol
 * 21:06:36: Bronkiin: Ok
 * 21:06:38: Timeoin: no... like, really :)
 * 21:06:45: Timeoin: it shouldnt matter who wrote it :D
 * 21:07:22: RenzXVI: It's sorta TL;DR at the moment. XD
 * 21:07:27: ~*LilithRayn*~: 1 and 2. Admins and mods need to step up their game on. In play or being serious, swearing at each other and arguing in open chat should not be allowed.
 * 21:07:30: ~*LilithRayn*~: 0.0
 * 21:07:35: Ikabite: We don't need a police state, though.
 * 21:07:36: Timeoin: it is a bit
 * 21:07:38: Ikabite: We've had that.
 * 21:07:47: Cheatcodechamp: But we cant roll over either
 * 21:07:50: Ikabite: It ruins community and only causes more drama.
 * 21:07:51: Bronkiin: I completely disagree about the swearing.
 * 21:08:01: ~*LilithRayn*~: Because you do it, Bron. lol
 * 21:08:04: Bronkiin: Yes
 * 21:08:10: Bronkiin: And so do loads of others.
 * 21:08:15: ~*LilithRayn*~: So take it to PM.
 * 21:08:26: Ikabite: You'll end up having nobody talk.
 * 21:08:29: Bronkiin: ? This isn't meant to be child friendly?
 * 21:08:29: Timeoin: Malcolm doesnt like me though :'(
 * 21:08:31: Cheatcodechamp: We allow cursing, but we cant allow it to go to far, we are ok with sharing music, but we may need to look as being more strict about what is allowed to be seen
 * 21:08:43: ~*LilithRayn*~: ^
 * 21:08:59: ~*LilithRayn*~: I'm not saying not to do it at all. Just that it needs to not be as heavy as it has ben.
 * 21:09:06: Bronkiin: Heavy?
 * 21:09:22: ~*LilithRayn*~: Abundant.
 * 21:09:23: Cheatcodechamp: We should be able to apeal to the masses, and some of what we do is bordering on the extreem. nothing major, but we do need to make sure we all agree that we have standards
 * 21:10:01: Bronkiin: brb
 * 21:10:12: Ralvz'jeshka Shakaraph: Oh, Lilith, shared the doc already?
 * 21:10:15: ~*LilithRayn*~: Yes.
 * 21:10:26: ~*LilithRayn*~: We are discussing it now.
 * 21:10:28: Ralvz'jeshka Shakaraph: Thought I saw more users viewing it than normal.
 * 21:10:30: Cheatcodechamp: We have two new mods, as long as them, and the rest of the staff of course, are all on the same page, we should beable to keep things clean. Our wikis goal is growth, if we die out, the wiki can risk death
 * 21:10:31: Ralvz'jeshka Shakaraph: Alrighty.
 * 21:10:47: Cheatcodechamp: I guess we have a idea who wrote it :P
 * 21:10:50: ~*LilithRayn*~: lol
 * 21:10:50: Timeoin: lol
 * 21:11:03: ~*LilithRayn*~: We have been doing this for a couple of days
 * 21:11:06: Ralvz'jeshka Shakaraph: /me covers his mouth with a finger ;)
 * 21:11:06: Timeoin: it was G0ld ;)
 * 21:11:07: KINMUNE: Hello there, The Crusader of Truth!
 * 21:11:13: ~*LilithRayn*~: Lmao Tim
 * 21:11:18: ~*LilithRayn*~: Crusader!
 * 21:11:21: Ralvz'jeshka Shakaraph: Fgh!
 * 21:11:24: Qahnaarin1997: Hi Crusader
 * 21:11:34: Cheatcodechamp: So, this is just a reminder we need to hold to our own standards correct?
 * 21:11:43: ~*LilithRayn*~: Basically.
 * 21:11:51: Bronkiin: It looks like more than that.
 * 21:11:53: Ralvz'jeshka Shakaraph: Not only so, but eliminate bias for users.
 * 21:12:01: ~*LilithRayn*~: There is one thing I would like to discuss though.
 * 21:12:09: Qahnaarin1997: I do think if you do have an argument you need to move i to PM
 * 21:12:16: Bronkiin: Arguments, yes.
 * 21:12:22: Bronkiin: That is what happened yesterday.
 * 21:12:24: Timeoin: "It is expected that users remain civil to each other. Death threats that occur off-site, depending on origin, can be punished with a chat ban as well.” - Rule 14. “Grounds for Blocking” → see below"
 * 21:12:30: Timeoin: does ... does that happen?
 * 21:12:38: Qahnaarin1997: Yes.
 * 21:12:38: Cheatcodechamp: If its reported
 * 21:12:39: Bronkiin: Not that I've seen
 * 21:12:41: Timeoin: (serious question)
 * 21:12:45: ~*LilithRayn*~: But you and Kora throwing the c word around main chat shouldn't be ok either, Bron
 * 21:12:51: The Crusader of Truth: "I'm going to kill you Ralvz" it has now :P
 * 21:12:53: Ralvz'jeshka Shakaraph: Not really.
 * 21:13:05: Timeoin: I have kids and a full time job :'(
 * 21:13:07: Bronkiin: If we want to sanitise chat, go ahead.
 * 21:13:16: Bronkiin: Actually, don't. It will kill it.
 * 21:13:25: Timeoin: *young children / toddlers
 * 21:13:26: ~*LilithRayn*~: That's not entirely what we are saying Bron
 * 21:13:27: Bronkiin: If a user is offended they ask us to stop.
 * 21:13:33: Bronkiin: It's only a problem if we then continue.
 * 21:13:53: Ralvz'jeshka Shakaraph: I'm only proposing a more stict proposal of the rules and that the mods don't become biased for one user over another.
 * 21:14:06: Qahnaarin1997: Civil conversations are ideal to main chat IMO.
 * 21:14:09: Cheatcodechamp: Bias is something that is harder to deal with
 * 21:14:14: RenzXVI: The issue is "Friendly bickering" "friends making fun of each other" etc. People say no one is getting offended and that should be allowed but it fills the chatroom with negativity which someone could walk into and see something that looks horrible. And even for people who do understand that it's just friends having fun, childish name calling for over an hour is tiring.
 * 21:14:30: Bronkiin: Then the mods ask it to stop.
 * 21:14:37: Bronkiin: There's no need to ban it.
 * 21:14:45: Bronkiin: Or swearing.
 * 21:15:11: The Crusader of Truth: You passed!
 * 21:15:11: ~*LilithRayn*~: Lag..lol
 * 21:15:30: Timeoin: lol
 * 21:15:38: Timeoin: wait ... what?
 * 21:15:40: Cheatcodechamp: For example, I have known Tim for years, and due to his age on this wiki, he will get away with things at times that others will not, he has dropped off the face of the earth for long periods of time. As for swaering there are some words that I feel have no place in this chat nomatter our policy
 * 21:15:56: Timeoin: bye EbonySword?
 * 21:16:02: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: wait what
 * 21:16:10: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: For example, I have known Tim for years, and due to his age on this wiki, he will get away with things at times
 * 21:16:13: Qahnaarin1997: Look, as what was stated before, this isn't supposed to be an exactly child friendly chat. so swearing (as long as it isn't taken to far or used to too much) should be ok.
 * 21:16:21: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: what happened to treating everyone the same
 * 21:16:21: Bronkiin: ^
 * 21:16:28: Bronkiin: That was for Qah
 * 21:16:35: KINMUNE: Hello there, EbonySword!
 * 21:16:40: Cheatcodechamp: That is our policy, but some words are worse then others
 * 21:16:42: ~*LilithRayn*~: Qahn, y'all need to know that there ARE children on this chat.
 * 21:16:54: Timeoin: its actually true though
 * 21:17:01: Ikabite: They are here, but they shouldn't be here.
 * 21:17:02: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: THATS BS!
 * 21:17:17: Timeoin: I agree, Ikabyte
 * 21:17:22: Ikabite: For fucks sake, we have pages about hermaphrodite raping a God.
 * 21:17:23: Timeoin: *bite
 * 21:17:25: Cheatcodechamp: We should treat everyone the same, but its impossible. some users have history, its builds a rep and credit with others
 * 21:17:33: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: thats BS
 * 21:17:47: Timeoin: I dont agree with it, and try to stamp it out as much as possible
 * 21:17:47: ~*LilithRayn*~: Also just how it works. lol
 * 21:17:48: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: i was Fu@#ed over yesterday and nearly banned twice
 * 21:18:00: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: and now im being told people can get away with things
 * 21:18:05: Timeoin: thats what we're discussing changes
 * 21:18:08: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: no everyone should get equal treatment
 * 21:18:14: Timeoin: no... we're saying that everyone should be equal
 * 21:18:23: The Crusader of Truth: Hey Lil, check yo PMs
 * 21:18:23: ~*LilithRayn*~: Exactly. Elijah this is a meeting to work on fixing that
 * 21:18:29: Timeoin: ^ this
 * 21:18:29: ~*LilithRayn*~: Dammit! Lag is killing me... brb
 * 21:18:33: Qahnaarin1997: This wiki, just like many others contain mature material. So maybe we should change the age limits or something?
 * 21:18:50: Cheatcodechamp: You are not being told that, im saying some people have been here long enough to get some extra wiggle room, like with somebody vanishs for a month we dont take their rights on day 31
 * 21:18:52: RenzXVI: There is an age limit, under 13 is against the ToU itself.
 * 21:18:57: ~*LilithRayn*~: Ok!
 * 21:18:58: Ralvz'jeshka Shakaraph: You can have friends and all, not saying the chat has to be a boring place with strict rules, but there can't be constant exceptions to the rules.
 * 21:19:04: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: wiggle room
 * 21:19:11: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: so why doesnt everyone get wiggle room
 * 21:19:12: Bronkiin: He means raise the age limit.
 * 21:19:15: Qahnaarin1997: Renz, maybe it should be 15?
 * 21:19:18: ~*LilithRayn*~: Actually...
 * 21:19:22: ~*LilithRayn*~: That's a great idea.
 * 21:19:37: ~*LilithRayn*~: To sign up you should have to be 16
 * 21:19:40: Ralvz'jeshka Shakaraph: 15 sounds good.
 * 21:19:44: The Crusader of Truth: No, please no 16 xD
 * 21:19:45: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: well im 18 so im good
 * 21:19:45: ~*LilithRayn*~: 15-16 which ever.
 * 21:19:47: ~*LilithRayn*~: lol
 * 21:19:49: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: still its bullshit
 * 21:19:53: Bronkiin: That's a huge step.
 * 21:19:56: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: why cut your base
 * 21:20:07: A1ch3mi57: What are the usual age restrictions printed on the games?
 * 21:20:08: RenzXVI: We cant really enforce age... We aren't even allowed to force people to state their ages, personal info isn't suppsoed to be shared or forced out of people.
 * 21:20:11: A1ch3mi57: Can't you use them?
 * 21:20:16: The Crusader of Truth: If it's made 16, I'm out. I'd be breaking the rules then, soo
 * 21:20:20: Qahnaarin1997: I actually think 15 is more reasonable.
 * 21:20:28: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: i think age restrict is BS #
 * 21:20:29: Cheatcodechamp: 13 year old kids should be playing this game, and its not us who set the limit, its laws above our heads
 * 21:20:44: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: you want to solve the issue
 * 21:20:49: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: change the damn policies
 * 21:20:51: Bronkiin: I thought some wikis had it higher?
 * 21:20:59: The Crusader of Truth: CCC makes a point with the age rule, as well as Renz
 * 21:21:02: Cheatcodechamp: Depends on the site and content
 * 21:21:13: Bronkiin: It should be about how it affects the chat.
 * 21:21:19: Cheatcodechamp: Some wikis have harder locks because they may have more minors show up
 * 21:21:24: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: the actual minium age set by wikia staff is 13 correct?
 * 21:21:24: RenzXVI: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97, the 15 year old age limit is not on the rules.
 * 21:21:26: Bronkiin: If the mod thinks its having a negative effect, they should ask us to stop.
 * 21:21:31: RenzXVI: Yes, 13
 * 21:21:37: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: so leave it at that
 * 21:21:41: Ralvz'jeshka Shakaraph: The doc me, Lilith and Crusader made explains what we agree should be a little more implimented. Not elimated, for the most part.
 * 21:21:42: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: plus they are 13 not 3
 * 21:21:43: The Crusader of Truth: It's kind of hard to enforce as it is. I could be 12 and lie to you guys the whole time, and never get banned
 * 21:21:51: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: swaering is common in 13+ year olds
 * 21:21:51: Cheatcodechamp: Like disney has to lock anons out because they cannot have kids editing by law.
 * 21:21:52: The Crusader of Truth: I didn't really make it, Ralvz. :P
 * 21:21:53: Qahnaarin1997: How about mature topics be brought to group PM?
 * 21:21:59: Bronkiin: Now way
 * 21:22:01: Cheatcodechamp: We have less risk, so we can still allow anons
 * 21:22:01: Ralvz'jeshka Shakaraph: Fgh, you helped.
 * 21:22:04: Bronkiin: *no
 * 21:22:05: ~*LilithRayn*~: That's what we said, Qahn. Bron does not agree
 * 21:22:14: The Crusader of Truth: I just attempted to work on the wikitext markups for you guys
 * 21:22:14: Bronkiin: ^
 * 21:22:15: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: i think all of us were common to swearing at 13
 * 21:22:15: Bronkiin: ...
 * 21:22:18: Bronkiin: So fst
 * 21:22:29: Bronkiin: *fast
 * 21:22:34: Bronkiin: I'm can't English.
 * 21:22:37: ~*LilithRayn*~: I did not curse when I was 13. And I didn't hear my father curse until I was 19
 * 21:22:39: Cheatcodechamp: No, not all of us where, and even then we must set a standard.
 * 21:22:40: ~*LilithRayn*~: lol
 * 21:22:46: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: bloody hell
 * 21:22:52: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: i know 8 year olds who swear
 * 21:22:58: The Crusader of Truth: I don't swear, 15
 * 21:23:01: Cheatcodechamp: Oh, that makes it ok
 * 21:23:05: RenzXVI: Darn it guys. It's not about age! I don't swear at all and I am 25,
 * 21:23:09: A1ch3mi57: Doesn't make it acceptable though
 * 21:23:10: ~*LilithRayn*~: ^
 * 21:23:12: ~*LilithRayn*~: Ok
 * 21:23:19: Ralvz'jeshka Shakaraph: I swear out of exclamation and such irl.
 * 21:23:22: ~*LilithRayn*~: I will make this short and sweet
 * 21:23:25: The Crusader of Truth: Lil makes a point lol
 * 21:23:28: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: by that logic we should tell everyone not to swear
 * 21:23:31: Bronkiin: Bit late for that, lil xd
 * 21:23:38: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: walk down the street and tell everyone not to swear
 * 21:23:42: Bronkiin: ^
 * 21:23:43: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: beacuse its not acceptable
 * 21:23:50: Timeoin: I will :P
 * 21:23:53: Meerkatwizard: Hi guys
 * 21:23:57: Timeoin: *old man yells at cloud* :P
 * 21:24:01: Timeoin: hey Meerkat :)
 * 21:24:01: Bronkiin: Swearing is acceptable. We shouldn't be wrapping people up in cotton wool.
 * 21:24:02: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: no it doesnt work
 * 21:24:07: ~*LilithRayn*~: YOU WILL WATCH WHAT YOU SAY or you will be kicked. It is in the rules. Not that you cannot curse. But if you are mature enough to swear, you are mature enough to know what is appropriate
 * 21:24:11: Qahnaarin1997: Could we modify the rules to keep some swear words out of Main chat?
 * 21:24:12: The Crusader of Truth: 0.o
 * 21:24:21: Ralvz'jeshka Shakaraph: Vamp: We aren't saying "Don't swear at all" we're saying "Limit it as to not sound obscene, and don't curse at people.".
 * 21:24:34: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: WTF
 * 21:24:34: Bronkiin: This will cause a lot of problems with users who aren't here at the moment.
 * 21:24:40: Cheatcodechamp: We allow a level of cursing, but we have a standard. if we start cursing like we all come from Australia (no offence) then we chase off people
 * 21:24:42: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: seriously
 * 21:24:44: Meerkatwizard: Hi Lilith
 * 21:24:46: Timeoin: oi!
 * 21:24:48: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: who made these polices
 * 21:24:48: ~*LilithRayn*~: Qahn, that would make me happy.
 * 21:25:03: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: so is limiting them
 * 21:25:07: Cheatcodechamp: I said no offence and you no its tue
 * 21:25:14: The Crusader of Truth: If I was to say something like
 * 21:25:22: Timeoin: fucking oath it is :P (Sorry ... had to)
 * 21:25:23: Cheatcodechamp: I would rather have people who dont curse then those who want anarchy.
 * 21:25:28: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: your basically saying you can swear but it is limited to how much you swear
 * 21:25:31: Bronkiin: No one wants anarchy
 * 21:25:33: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: who decides what the fuckin line is
 * 21:25:39: Bronkiin: We do not have anarchy atm
 * 21:25:42: The Crusader of Truth: "Yall stupid motherfuckers with shit and fucking damn wikis are fucking insane" I'm quite sure thats too much xD
 * 21:25:43: Meerkatwizard: Hope you are doing well
 * 21:25:47: ~*LilithRayn*~: Good lord guys...seriously. How hard is it to not call someone a cunt?
 * 21:25:50: Bronkiin: I agree, CoT
 * 21:25:53: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: very
 * 21:25:57: Ralvz'jeshka Shakaraph: It isn't just swearing, but the constant attacks and judgment on newer user's orientation, status, etc.
 * 21:25:57: Bronkiin: But no one says that.
 * 21:25:59: ~*LilithRayn*~: Why is this even an argument??
 * 21:25:59: Bronkiin: Ever.
 * 21:26:01: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: words have the tendency to spill out
 * 21:26:01: Timeoin: We are, Meerkat :)
 * 21:26:07: ~*LilithRayn*~: Bron, you and Kora have both said it.
 * 21:26:20: ~*LilithRayn*~: YOU'RE Typing it's not just spilling out
 * 21:26:32: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: everyone knows the word
 * 21:26:34: Cheatcodechamp: Whats to vote? this is current policy, dont curse to much or we kick you
 * 21:26:36: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: they know what it means
 * 21:26:38: Bronkiin: We have never said what CoT said, Lil
 * 21:26:39: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: so what is the issue
 * 21:26:44: The Crusader of Truth: Well, you can control exactly what you type
 * 21:26:51: Bronkiin: It is fine as it is.
 * 21:26:56: ~*LilithRayn*~: Chat's moving very fast right now. I have a hard time keeping up
 * 21:27:00: Timeoin: we would vote on whether to enforce our rules more evenly - no more favouritism
 * 21:27:00: Bronkiin: ^
 * 21:27:01: RenzXVI: People insulting each other for fun, it's the main topic here.
 * 21:27:01: Bronkiin: ...
 * 21:27:05: The Crusader of Truth: I could spam this chat to pieces if I wanted..
 * 21:27:11: A1ch3mi57: Elijah put it this way if a mod or someone else in chat asks you to stop you stop. You should know when and how to respect other people so don't argue against it.
 * 21:27:16: Qahnaarin1997: The policy on keeping some swear words to PM ie. Fuck, CCC
 * 21:27:24: Qahnaarin1997: or cunt
 * 21:27:24: Timeoin: ccc is a swear word
 * 21:27:26: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: thats bullshit A1ch3mi57
 * 21:27:26: Bronkiin: ^
 * 21:27:27: Timeoin: gotcha
 * 21:27:31: The Crusader of Truth: But I'm not. A level of self-control is needed everywhere, not just here
 * 21:27:37: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: complete fucking bullshit
 * 21:27:39: A1ch3mi57: Then that's why you're not a mod
 * 21:27:51: EVIL DR VON TACOS: :3
 * 21:27:56: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: i dont have to enforce these bullshit polices
 * 21:27:58: Bronkiin: Cracking down on swearing will cause far more problems than it solves.
 * 21:28:02: The Crusader of Truth: Hey Doc Tacos
 * 21:28:05: EVIL DR VON TACOS: Im going to play the skyrim mutiplayer mod :D
 * 21:28:08: Qahnaarin1997: Hi Tocas
 * 21:28:09: A1ch3mi57: Elijah you're actually starting to become offensive
 * 21:28:10: Bronkiin: There will be a hell of a kickback against this.
 * 21:28:19: Bronkiin: Lets just avoid drama.
 * 21:28:28: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: im stating my opinion
 * 21:28:36: ~*LilithRayn*~: Well state it more politely.
 * 21:28:38: ~*LilithRayn*~: Please
 * 21:28:39: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: and my opinion is that these policies are BS
 * 21:28:45: RenzXVI: Opinion as in everything is BS? And no suggestions?
 * 21:28:46: A1ch3mi57: ...
 * 21:28:48: Qahnaarin1997: Your not stating on topic Elijah
 * 21:28:50: EVIL DR VON TACOS: (first one got corrupted, becuse I spend 2, 2 mother fucking hours, crafting daggers :D)
 * 21:29:02: Bronkiin: He is, Qah
 * 21:29:03: RenzXVI: EVIL DR VON TACOS, we are in a weekly meeting.
 * 21:29:07: EVIL DR VON TACOS: so I could get daedra at be- oh
 * 21:29:10: Ralvz'jeshka Shakaraph: These policies help avoid chat arguments and disruption/drama.
 * 21:29:12: Qahnaarin1997: Okay, I retract my statement
 * 21:29:12: EVIL DR VON TACOS: should I leave then?
 * 21:29:17: The Crusader of Truth: Project:Moot
 * 21:29:22: ~*LilithRayn*~: GUYS! Guess what?
 * 21:29:24: Bronkiin: There are policies in place already Ralvz.]
 * 21:29:27: Bronkiin: And they work.
 * 21:29:29: EVIL DR VON TACOS: Im just going to let my self out
 * 21:29:35: ~*LilithRayn*~: <3 Taco
 * 21:29:37: ~*LilithRayn*~: Sorry
 * 21:29:39: Bronkiin: This has caused more drama than anything in chat for a long time.
 * 21:29:41: The Crusader of Truth: Cya Tacos. Sorry if we drove you out
 * 21:29:46: The Crusader of Truth: Aww, too late
 * 21:30:11: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: i thought this was a talk we could call contribute too clearly i was wrong so by all means carry on
 * 21:30:11: Qahnaarin1997: We are at an standstill with this.
 * 21:30:12: Timeoin: I think the idea is to have a clearer guideline for all
 * 21:30:21: Ralvz'jeshka Shakaraph: Should we present the doc once more to everyone present? I think this has caused more confusion than anything else.
 * 21:30:22: ~*LilithRayn*~: ^
 * 21:30:30: ~*LilithRayn*~: Sorry that was for Tim
 * 21:30:33: Qahnaarin1997: I agree with Tim
 * 21:30:42: Timeoin: I think the main issue was that there is/has been a double standard
 * 21:30:51: ~*LilithRayn*~: Exactly.
 * 21:30:55: Bronkiin: There is no double standard. The chat rules are very clear.
 * 21:30:56: Cheatcodechamp: You can contribute, but the wiki needs to have standards, and if we do not enforce them we risk chaos
 * 21:30:57: RenzXVI: I doubt people can read the whole doc while the meeting is ongoing without everyone going afk.
 * 21:30:59: Bronkiin: About swearing.
 * 21:31:01: ~*LilithRayn*~: And rules not being followed and it being ignored.
 * 21:31:11: ~*LilithRayn*~: It's not just about cursing, Bron
 * 21:31:19: Cheatcodechamp: As for double standards, I said we have some who have wiggle room, not a free pass
 * 21:31:20: Bronkiin: Then why bring it up?
 * 21:31:22: Timeoin: can I make a suggestion, folks?
 * 21:31:27: The Crusader of Truth: I swear, this is getting outta hand. :P
 * 21:31:28: ~*LilithRayn*~: Omg yes Tim please
 * 21:31:32: Qahnaarin1997: Bron, I think the issue is that some may find it offensive to them.
 * 21:31:32: Bronkiin: Don't say CT
 * 21:31:38: The Crusader of Truth: Timeoin, you have the floor :)
 * 21:31:39: Bronkiin: That's not good enough, Qah
 * 21:31:41: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: (facepalm) (angry)
 * 21:31:42: Timeoin: lets leave the swearing bit alone for now
 * 21:31:47: Bronkiin: Anyone can get offended by anything.
 * 21:31:49: Bronkiin: Good idea, TIm
 * 21:31:53: Timeoin: since its where were all getting stuck
 * 21:31:53: Bronkiin: (+)
 * 21:31:59: Timeoin: take it to a CT
 * 21:32:01: Bronkiin: No
 * 21:32:05: Timeoin: or something, idk
 * 21:32:06: ~*LilithRayn*~: I don't understand why it's such a big deal. lol
 * 21:32:07: Bronkiin: That'll blow things up even more
 * 21:32:16: Qahnaarin1997: ^
 * 21:32:18: Shockstorm: why is the spammer still here?
 * 21:32:24: ~*LilithRayn*~: There are certain words that just shouldn't be thrown around all willy nilly
 * 21:32:27: RenzXVI: I don't even know how it got focused on swearing and what type of words... It's supposed to be about people insulting each other for fun.
 * 21:32:32: ~*LilithRayn*~: ^
 * 21:32:36: ~*LilithRayn*~: And not for fun
 * 21:32:50: Timeoin: idk ... my job's to smooth things over. - its clearly an issue, and we're getting a little crazy here :)
 * 21:33:13: The Crusader of Truth: Yeah, I cant sit here all day either
 * 21:33:16: Timeoin: I think thats the main issue
 * 21:33:21: Bronkiin: No one attacks people over their status.
 * 21:33:25: Bronkiin: Not even Shawn xD
 * 21:33:32: ~*LilithRayn*~: Ya know what...Let's revisit my entire topic next week.
 * 21:33:35: RenzXVI: I dunno what Ralvz is talking about.
 * 21:33:40: The Crusader of Truth: I'm not sure about that one Bron xD
 * 21:33:43: Timeoin: theres been times where people have been attacked a lot ... actually been threatened
 * 21:33:44: ~*LilithRayn*~: I will redo it and make it more specific to what I am saying
 * 21:33:51: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: /me sighs
 * 21:33:57: Bronkiin: I have seen no threats to anyone since I've been here.
 * 21:34:03: Ralvz'jeshka Shakaraph: Not attacked as in threatened, but judged and such.
 * 21:34:06: Bronkiin: Except by Darius.
 * 21:34:07: ~*LilithRayn*~: (facepalm)
 * 21:34:18: Timeoin: apparently it does happen - it SHOULDNT, but it does
 * 21:34:25: Meerkatwizard: I'm so confused
 * 21:34:28: Bronkiin: ^
 * 21:34:37: Shockstorm: can someone give examples? I'm lost
 * 21:34:42: Qahnaarin1997: Then the mods should keep a closer eye out, right?
 * 21:34:44: Timeoin: Meerkat - we are all getting very passionate about policies
 * 21:34:49: Timeoin: I can, but id rather not
 * 21:34:55: Timeoin: as ... I *know* it will derail the chat
 * 21:34:56: Bronkiin: I agree Qah
 * 21:34:56: RenzXVI: Meerkatwizard is one of the users who complain when he walks into lots of swearing...
 * 21:34:58: ~*LilithRayn*~: Yes, Qahn that's exactly where I started this conversation
 * 21:34:59: Ralvz'jeshka Shakaraph: I.E, people new are often judged to the point of not feeling comfortable here and leave.
 * 21:35:18: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: its just turning into a godamn joke.
 * 21:35:20: Qahnaarin1997: Okay, that clears this up.
 * 21:35:23: Shockstorm: I see
 * 21:35:29: Timeoin: you do ? awesome :D
 * 21:35:57: ~*LilithRayn*~: Soo...next topic?
 * 21:36:04: Bronkiin: xD
 * 21:36:17: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: (facepalm)
 * 21:36:23: Cheatcodechamp: We have none, I figured this would be 10 minutes and we would go over maintance
 * 21:36:24: ~*LilithRayn*~: We will rediscuss when I am better prepared and everyone else will be as well.
 * 21:36:30: ~*LilithRayn*~: Oh..
 * 21:36:32: Qahnaarin1997: We all agree mods need to be more attentive to chat, right?
 * 21:36:35: ~*LilithRayn*~: Then let's go back to rioting.
 * 21:36:41: ~*LilithRayn*~: Yes, Qahn
 * 21:36:45: Bronkiin: Rioting?
 * 21:36:46: Qahnaarin1997: Okay.
 * 21:36:52: ~*LilithRayn*~: And other members need to be more respectful
 * 21:36:57: Qahnaarin1997: ^
 * 21:36:58: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: /me scoffs
 * 21:37:00: Bronkiin: Respectful of who and how?
 * 21:37:05: RenzXVI: All curse words actually ping me.
 * 21:37:09: Bronkiin: I mean, are we going to go all PC
 * 21:37:10: Qahnaarin1997: The rules and other menbers
 * 21:37:12: Cheatcodechamp: That was the main point, we have rules, but are becoming lax again. We all need to be respectful of others.
 * 21:37:12: RenzXVI: Sometimes I end up counting them.
 * 21:37:14: The Crusader of Truth: Yesterday, I saw something that hurt my feelings just hearing it
 * 21:37:17: Bronkiin: And ban anything that might offend someone.=?
 * 21:37:19: The Crusader of Truth: And it wasnt even to me
 * 21:37:24: Bronkiin: Because that is what you are suggesting.
 * 21:37:28: Cheatcodechamp: We are not going PC, but we have to have standards
 * 21:37:31: Bronkiin: That happens to me to, CoT
 * 21:37:34: Bronkiin: all the time.
 * 21:37:38: Bronkiin: But that's life.
 * 21:37:51: Timeoin: Meerkat - say it on here :)
 * 21:37:54: Ralvz'jeshka Shakaraph: Respectful as in: not hating on a particular group and such that we are aware of that are present in chat.
 * 21:37:55: ~*LilithRayn*~: No one said anything about banning anyone
 * 21:38:07: RenzXVI: Can you stop sighing?
 * 21:38:12: A1ch3mi57: ^
 * 21:38:15: Cheatcodechamp: Its a hard line to messure, as we all have a diffrent limit, that is why we all need to agree on a set limit, like, for example, no C word
 * 21:38:32: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: why
 * 21:38:46: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: beacuse i try and voice my opinion
 * 21:38:50: Qahnaarin1997: Or add them to pings?
 * 21:38:51: The Crusader of Truth: We need the template at the top xD
 * 21:38:53: Bronkiin: No bantering?
 * 21:38:54: Bronkiin: What
 * 21:38:54: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: and its flagged as offensive
 * 21:38:57: Bronkiin: on earth.
 * 21:39:01: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: offensive to who?
 * 21:39:01: Bronkiin: No way.
 * 21:39:05: The Crusader of Truth: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_Wiki:Chat
 * 21:39:11: Cheatcodechamp: if that wa the case, we would have removed you at the start.
 * 21:39:12: Bronkiin: No one surely will accept that Lil, I'm sorry.
 * 21:39:13: The Crusader of Truth: No  ?
 * 21:39:29: ~*LilithRayn*~: If y'all are swearing at each other then you need to.
 * 21:39:40: Bronkiin: Stop swearing?
 * 21:39:40: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: how was my statement offensive
 * 21:39:43: ~*LilithRayn*~: NO
 * 21:39:44: Bronkiin: Need to stop swearing?
 * 21:39:46: Bronkiin: ...
 * 21:39:49: Bronkiin: Then what?
 * 21:39:57: Bronkiin: Stop bantering and swearing?
 * 21:40:10: Bronkiin: Calm.
 * 21:40:15: Timeoin: Guys ... Meerkat has a suggestion? :)
 * 21:40:18: Bronkiin: No need to blaspheme, lil
 * 21:40:21: RenzXVI: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97, nothing you say is helping, caling things BS without proposing a solution is useless trolling.
 * 21:40:22: A1ch3mi57: /me can see who the trouble makers are in this chat >_< hasn't even been here for long =/
 * 21:40:28: ~*LilithRayn*~: If someone enters the room......stop your swearing at each other for five minutes
 * 21:40:32: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: i was going to provide a soultion
 * 21:40:32: Bronkiin: Ok
 * 21:40:34: Bronkiin: Fine rule.
 * 21:40:35: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: but i was told to shut up
 * 21:40:35: KINMUNE: Hello there, King of the nerds 2!
 * 21:40:36: Bronkiin: Easy.
 * 21:40:41: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: and that my opinion was offensive
 * 21:40:45: Bronkiin: ^
 * 21:40:45: Ralvz'jeshka Shakaraph: Fgh.
 * 21:40:46: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: so i couldnt voice a soultion
 * 21:41:04: ~*LilithRayn*~: Elijah, you were told that you were voicing it rudely. Find another way to say it.
 * 21:41:20: The Crusader of Truth: So, the origianal topic was on https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gX5-ggPoI5zlhd78wNc-kFXa-ur-_AgWR-rZnHG3rM8/edit?usp=sharing right? . And yes, Ralvz?
 * 21:41:32: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: ok the policies are bad and need improving. better?
 * 21:41:32: Ralvz'jeshka Shakaraph: Yes.
 * 21:41:40: Meerkatwizard: I think people who don't like swearing should chat in a different room
 * 21:41:41: ~*LilithRayn*~: Yes
 * 21:41:44: ~*LilithRayn*~: Elijah
 * 21:41:46: The Crusader of Truth: Then we need to discuss more than swearing for half an hour
 * 21:41:52: Ralvz'jeshka Shakaraph: Simple clearing up of rules and not causing drama.
 * 21:42:03: Qahnaarin1997: Crusader has a point
 * 21:42:04: Bronkiin: Refresh
 * 21:42:11: Qahnaarin1997: This has gone on for too long.
 * 21:42:15: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: you want people to come here and enjoy the chat and the wiki in general correct?
 * 21:42:19: Cheatcodechamp: We do not have another room, this is the main chat room ,people shouldnt be chased off because others want to be needlessly vulgar
 * 21:42:22: Bronkiin: I agree wizard.
 * 21:42:25: RenzXVI: We cant split swearers from non-swearers.
 * 21:42:35: Bronkiin: Needlsessly vulgar?
 * 21:42:38: Meerkatwizard: I agree
 * 21:42:55: Bronkiin: Others shouldn't be split off for being over "offensive"
 * 21:43:03: The Crusader of Truth: Vulgar --> Someone post pornhub for example (wink)
 * 21:43:22: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: there is a point where a "rule" becomes a restriction and thats what your doing your restricting users
 * 21:43:36: ~*LilithRayn*~: lol
 * 21:43:43: Shockstorm: I think it'd be far easier to just warn the people (the 1 or 2 actually being vulgar and posting gore) than make a big policy
 * 21:43:53: Bronkiin: ^^
 * 21:43:56: Timeoin: I think that was actually the suggestion :)
 * 21:44:02: Bronkiin: It wasn't
 * 21:44:05: Ralvz'jeshka Shakaraph: Swearing wasn't intended to be the main topic. Reimplementation of the current rules was.
 * 21:44:17: Bronkiin: They wanted a policy change. Well, that's what was mentioned.
 * 21:44:22: Ralvz'jeshka Shakaraph: Yes, swearing is a part of it.
 * 21:44:24: Bronkiin: I agree with Shocks compromise.
 * 21:44:32: RenzXVI: Some people say that as long as no one is offended, insulting each other is fine.
 * 21:44:41: ~*LilithRayn*~: I agree with moving on down the rules.
 * 21:45:04: Timeoin: i agree with the compromise
 * 21:45:12: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: offensive that can be used and abused
 * 21:45:23: The Crusader of Truth: (support)
 * 21:45:24: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: people can just start complaining about being offended for no godamn reason
 * 21:45:30: Bronkiin: The current rules are fine. They should just be enforced.
 * 21:45:35: ~*LilithRayn*~: ^
 * 21:45:38: Cheatcodechamp: I agreed with Bron
 * 21:45:39: ~*LilithRayn*~: That's the point bron
 * 21:45:42: Cheatcodechamp: That was the main point
 * 21:45:45: Timeoin: /me bans self
 * 21:45:46: ~*LilithRayn*~: That's why this was brought up today.
 * 21:45:52: ~*LilithRayn*~: *un bans tim
 * 21:45:54: The Crusader of Truth: So, Bronkiin, you're saying the mods need to haul their ass to gear basicly? Fair
 * 21:45:54: ~*LilithRayn*~: lol
 * 21:45:55: Bronkiin: The rules are being enforced.
 * 21:46:01: Cheatcodechamp: And we spent almost an hour arguing cursing
 * 21:46:06: Ralvz'jeshka Shakaraph: Good grief, how many times has Bron had to state it? That's the entire point of this doc.
 * 21:46:07: RenzXVI: The problem is, the whole chat wasn't listening to mods last time that happened.
 * 21:46:09: The Crusader of Truth: ~*LilithRayn*~, you just broke a rule!
 * 21:46:10: Bronkiin: No one has broken any of the swearing rules.
 * 21:46:14: Bronkiin: For example.
 * 21:46:18: ~*LilithRayn*~: What?? What did I do?!
 * 21:46:26: The Crusader of Truth: Acting on a different ban/kick without discussing it
 * 21:46:29: The Crusader of Truth: :P
 * 21:46:34: ~*LilithRayn*~: oh..lol
 * 21:46:44: The Crusader of Truth: That is a rule, so lol
 * 21:46:46: Timeoin: "Block user
 * 21:46:46: Bronkiin: And there was a lot of talk about not being allowed to debate sensitive topics etc...
 * 21:46:59: Bronkiin: Anyway (+) to Shock.
 * 21:47:24: Bronkiin: I don't agree with the document.
 * 21:47:28: Bronkiin: I agree with Shock.
 * 21:47:37: RenzXVI: I couldn't read the whole document. XD
 * 21:47:47: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: forget it!
 * 21:47:51: The Crusader of Truth: Shock posted? Shoot, where? I need to keep up lol
 * 21:48:05: Timeoin: you all missed Qahns gem from earlier
 * 21:48:06: Timeoin: just saying
 * 21:48:14: Shockstorm: I just said warn the 1 or 2 people posting nasty stuff instead of overhauling policy
 * 21:48:16: Timeoin: (and language warning)
 * 21:48:19: Qahnaarin1997: What gem, Tim?
 * 21:48:31: Timeoin: "Qahnaarin1997 The policy on keeping some swear words to PM ie. Fuck, CCC or cunt"
 * 21:48:41: Timeoin: CCC is a swear word now :P
 * 21:48:41: Shockstorm: lol CCC
 * 21:48:44: Cheatcodechamp: We have general ideas who our more vulgar editos are, if its an issue lets deal with it.
 * 21:48:45: The Crusader of Truth: Ah, gotcha
 * 21:48:52: Ralvz'jeshka Shakaraph: We aren't overhauling it, we're simply eliminating bias for it.
 * 21:48:55: Bronkiin: Right, can we vote and move on?
 * 21:48:56: The Crusader of Truth: CCC was a swear word, by decree of Timeoin! :P
 * 21:49:02: Bronkiin: I think we have a compromise.
 * 21:49:03: Timeoin: XD
 * 21:49:06: Cheatcodechamp: You can all CCC yourselves
 * 21:49:08: Qahnaarin1997: Sorry, I didn't mean keep CCC from main
 * 21:49:14: Timeoin: lets vote on whether ccc is a swear word? :P
 * 21:49:14: The Crusader of Truth: xD
 * 21:49:18: RenzXVI: Shock, the problem was, last time there was bickering and mods warned the people, the whole chat was saying "they were just friends annoying each other, no one is being offended".
 * 21:49:28: Bronkiin: (+)
 * 21:49:34: Bronkiin: CCC?
 * 21:49:41: Ralvz'jeshka Shakaraph: ^(support)
 * 21:49:41: Bronkiin: Or we still debating?
 * 21:49:52: The Crusader of Truth: (support)
 * 21:49:52: Timeoin: idk anymore :P
 * 21:50:01: Bronkiin: Moot leeader?
 * 21:50:07: Bronkiin: Lead us xD
 * 21:50:14: ~*LilithRayn*~: (support) For raising hell and breaking sh*t
 * 21:50:16: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: (angry)
 * 21:50:21: RenzXVI: (+)
 * 21:50:22: Starkiller131: Hmm
 * 21:50:28: Timeoin: (support)
 * 21:50:33: Shockstorm: (support)
 * 21:50:34: Cheatcodechamp: (+)
 * 21:50:38: ~*LilithRayn*~: Majority rule.
 * 21:50:47: ~*LilithRayn*~: /me bangs hammer
 * 21:50:48: Starkiller131: Someone please enlighten me on what was decided?
 * 21:50:48: Bronkiin: (+)
 * 21:50:50: ~*LilithRayn*~: Motion passed.
 * 21:50:58: ~*LilithRayn*~: Nothing, Star
 * 21:50:59: Bronkiin: To enforce current rules more vigourously.
 * 21:51:03: Ralvz'jeshka Shakaraph: (Support) + (support) = (support) (support)!
 * 21:51:03: The Crusader of Truth: If CCC was a swear word, last I checked
 * 21:51:06: Cheatcodechamp: And I oppose my name being profane, I work hard for my image, and will fight to the death to deend it.
 * 21:51:07: Starkiller131: ....tf
 * 21:51:09: Timeoin: lol
 * 21:51:13: Cheatcodechamp: *defend
 * 21:51:16: Bronkiin: (+)
 * 21:51:19: Bronkiin: I agree, Cheat.
 * 21:51:31: Timeoin: Special:BlockList
 * 21:51:35: Bronkiin: Note, I didn't use the profane version of your name.
 * 21:51:41: Starkiller131: Rules are bs everyone knows that. ;)
 * 21:51:48: Timeoin: I enforced the rules :P
 * 21:51:50: The Crusader of Truth: Bronkiin, you CCC
 * 21:51:52: Ralvz'jeshka Shakaraph: CCC should be a use of praise!
 * 21:52:01: The Crusader of Truth: I agree with Ralvz!
 * 21:52:09: The Crusader of Truth: And Timeoin!
 * 21:52:18: The Crusader of Truth: It's a curse and a blessing, lol
 * 21:52:20: Starkiller131: *is not joking* Xd
 * 21:52:27: Cheatcodechamp: Ok, we have time to run over some things
 * 21:52:28: Timeoin: no, did you see it, CoT? :P
 * 21:52:34: ~*LilithRayn*~: lmao So funny
 * 21:52:35: Timeoin: click the link :P
 * 21:52:40: Cheatcodechamp: First, we need image and quote nominations
 * 21:52:50: The Crusader of Truth: Loading
 * 21:52:54: ~*LilithRayn*~: Not it!
 * 21:52:58: Cheatcodechamp: Also, we have a FB contest going on
 * 21:53:04: The Crusader of Truth: I thought that said Atv was banned for a second xD
 * 21:53:07: Timeoin: and im winning :P
 * 21:53:08: ~*LilithRayn*~: Oh I need to do that after this meeting..
 * 21:53:32: Cheatcodechamp: https://www.facebook.com/The-Elder-Scrolls-Wiki-182650958515920/?fref=ts
 * 21:53:32: Knight of Camlorn: The new series of Doctor who is absolute shite
 * 21:53:46: Timeoin: vote for my super drawing ;)
 * 21:53:48: Bronkiin: Vulgarity, Camlorn.
 * 21:53:52: Cheatcodechamp: You go down some, you will see a meme on how to draw a thalmor
 * 21:53:53: Bronkiin: Take it to PM please.
 * 21:53:55: Timeoin: havent seen the new ep yet
 * 21:54:09: ~*LilithRayn*~: Take what to PM?
 * 21:54:10: Shockstorm: lol
 * 21:54:11: Starkiller131: If atv was banned I'd be at UESP already.
 * 21:54:15: Cheatcodechamp: Whoever can draw the best one will be our profile pick
 * 21:54:16: Knight of Camlorn: just let characters die for fuck's sake
 * 21:54:21: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: this is a joke
 * 21:54:21: Bronkiin: Ban him!
 * 21:54:27: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: a utter utter joke
 * 21:54:28: The Crusader of Truth: Ban Star!
 * 21:54:31: ~*LilithRayn*~: Can we focus?
 * 21:54:32: Timeoin: KoC ... please dont spoil
 * 21:54:34: Ralvz'jeshka Shakaraph: Brb
 * 21:54:43: Timeoin: HAVENT seen the ep yet ... as I was here at the moot :)
 * 21:54:44: Knight of Camlorn: I ain't spoiling shit
 * 21:54:45: ~*LilithRayn*~: Who is doing the image and quote?
 * 21:54:58: Cheatcodechamp: Just nominate them on their pages as normal
 * 21:55:00: Knight of Camlorn: I'm not talking about any specific episode
 * 21:55:02: Bronkiin: Anyone, Lil
 * 21:55:02: Starkiller131: Allin favor of banning me say I.
 * 21:55:06: Timeoin: ah, okay
 * 21:55:09: Cheatcodechamp: Also, we have one item I want to talka bout
 * 21:55:09: Bronkiin: Aye
 * 21:55:13: Bronkiin: kk CCC
 * 21:55:15: Bronkiin: Whopps
 * 21:55:16: Timeoin: make the thalmor image of mine the image for the week LD
 * 21:55:18: Bronkiin: Sorry, guyes
 * 21:55:19: Bronkiin: ...
 * 21:55:27: Qahnaarin1997: CCC I have an image of the week
 * 21:55:36: The Crusader of Truth: Wait, what was our decision on the chat thing? Missed it
 * 21:55:39: Bronkiin: Add it to the nominations then.
 * 21:55:44: Knight of Camlorn: I'm just expressing my opinion that the new series is wank on toast
 * 21:55:45: Cheatcodechamp: We could pick one now, but I want us to discuss what our policy is when a item is not nominated
 * 21:55:54: Qahnaarin1997: So post it in main, bron?
 * 21:55:59: Bronkiin: Which is swearing etc is fine.
 * 21:56:00: The Crusader of Truth: Qah, elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_Wiki:Featured_Images
 * 21:56:01: Cheatcodechamp: Do we wait until the next one, or do we do a rush pick
 * 21:56:08: The Crusader of Truth: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_Wiki:Featured_Images
 * 21:56:13: Timeoin: "07:47, December 6, 2015 Timeoin (Talk | contribs | block) blocked Timeoin (Talk | contribs) with an expiry time of 1 minute (account creation disabled) (Being Australian, and offensive by default) (unblock | change block)"
 * 21:56:20: The Crusader of Truth: 0.o
 * 21:56:25: Shockstorm: thank god
 * 21:56:34: The Crusader of Truth: Didnt see that
 * 21:56:34: Shockstorm: now to get to Bronk
 * 21:56:41: Shockstorm: Englishmen offend me
 * 21:56:41: ~*LilithRayn*~: .....
 * 21:56:43: Bronkiin: (y)
 * 21:56:50: Bronkiin: I'm offended by Pandas.
 * 21:56:54: Bronkiin: And swearing.
 * 21:57:03: The Crusader of Truth: I'm offended by Bamboo lickers
 * 21:57:03: Bronkiin: Shh TIm
 * 21:57:12: Timeoin: /me DID warn everyone he was drunk
 * 21:57:18: Bronkiin: I'm offended by your presence, TIm.
 * 21:57:19: Shockstorm: slur! racial slur!
 * 21:57:20: The Crusader of Truth: :P
 * 21:57:26: Knight of Camlorn: I thought you were gonna say 'I'm offended by bambi'
 * 21:57:39: The Crusader of Truth: I'm offended by Bambi!
 * 21:57:44: Bronkiin: I'm offended by Americans.
 * 21:57:46: Bronkiin: (y)
 * 21:57:52: Bronkiin: All of you leave.
 * 21:57:54: YulFusKrad: well screw you
 * 21:57:54: CiviclyYours: guys. Someone just told me Global warming is fiction
 * 21:57:55: ~*LilithRayn*~: CC What did you want to discuss?
 * 21:57:56: Timeoin: can we get on with the meeting? :P
 * 21:57:58: Knight of Camlorn: I'm offended by fat people
 * 21:57:59: The Crusader of Truth: I'm offended by all of you! :P
 * 21:58:07: Knight of Camlorn: I'm offended by Americans
 * 21:58:08: Timeoin: its almost over :(
 * 21:58:09: Starkiller131: Brb
 * 21:58:13: Cheatcodechamp: I said what I wanted to say, but we have fallen into chaos
 * 21:58:14: Shockstorm: http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/881/464/f94.jpg
 * 21:58:16: Timeoin: Civicly - it started an hour ago
 * 21:58:18: YulFusKrad: if you really wanna talk about offends
 * 21:58:24: ~*LilithRayn*~: ENOUGH of the offended stuff. Let's get this over with and then y'all can smart asses. Warning one
 * 21:58:25: CiviclyYours: Timeoin shhh pls.
 * 21:58:27: The Crusader of Truth: Yeah, lets get onto the show
 * 21:58:36: Cheatcodechamp: ...
 * 21:58:40: Bronkiin: Right.
 * 21:58:40: Cheatcodechamp: We good?
 * 21:58:48: Bronkiin: Where were we? xD
 * 21:58:49: ~*LilithRayn*~: CC Have at
 * 21:59:11: Cheatcodechamp: Anyway, as I said before, last month we had two items not get a solid nomination
 * 21:59:26: The Crusader of Truth: FI?
 * 21:59:39: Cheatcodechamp: The MOTM was a failed vote, so that can remain a month we failed to find a MOTM, but we also had the featured poll
 * 21:59:54: Cheatcodechamp: The poll had no nominain at all
 * 22:00:10: The Crusader of Truth: Where would we nominate polls?
 * 22:00:17: Cheatcodechamp: do we do a rush job, or do we leave the current poll until next month as we do other items
 * 22:00:24: Shockstorm: let's have a poll to choose a poll to nominate
 * 22:00:33: Cheatcodechamp: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_Wiki%3AFeaturedPoll
 * 22:00:39: Bronkiin: I think we avoid rushing, CCC
 * 22:00:45: Bronkiin: imo
 * 22:00:46: The Crusader of Truth: I say this:
 * 22:00:56: YulFusKrad: oblivion
 * 22:00:57: The Crusader of Truth: Simple, but it is TES related
 * 22:01:01: Bronkiin: Add it to the list then, CoT
 * 22:01:09: Bronkiin: Add it to the poll on the poll.
 * 22:01:10: The Crusader of Truth: If I can find it :P
 * 22:01:16: Timeoin: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_Wiki%3AFeaturedPoll
 * 22:01:18: Timeoin: ^ that
 * 22:01:20: Bronkiin: ^
 * 22:01:25: YulFusKrad: >
 * 22:01:39: Timeoin: anything else ? :P
 * 22:01:42: YulFusKrad: v
 * 22:02:12: The Crusader of Truth: Time to figure out how to nominate lol
 * 22:02:13: Timeoin: oh yeah ... what happened with the MotM thing? :P
 * 22:02:22: Qahnaarin1997: Sorry, I was away. Can someone catch me up to what is going on?
 * 22:02:24: TheOriginalVampireElijah 97: man im so annoyed
 * 22:02:27: Timeoin: /me nominates himself as tribute
 * 22:02:32: Bronkiin: Not much, featured poll stuff
 * 22:02:37: Qahnaarin1997: Ok
 * 22:02:37: Timeoin: Qahn ... we all agreed that CCC is a swear now :P
 * 22:02:41: Timeoin: that was about it
 * 22:02:41: Qahnaarin1997: xd
 * 22:02:44: RenzXVI: MOTM? Someone should mention that. :p
 * 22:02:47: ~*LilithRayn*~: Elijah, PM or don't discuss it. We need to get this meeting wrapped up.
 * 22:02:50: Bronkiin: CCC has, Renz
 * 22:02:51: Timeoin: literally the ONLY thing we voted on :)
 * 22:03:02: Bronkiin: Ooh
 * 22:03:10: Bronkiin: Sorry, not in the way you're thinking, sorry.
 * 22:03:12: Timeoin: also ... nominte me ;)
 * 22:03:13: Cheatcodechamp: The MOTM thing failed, no MOTM this month
 * 22:03:15: Timeoin: XD
 * 22:03:18: YulFusKrad: hmmm......
 * 22:03:24: Cheatcodechamp: No new nominations until the 12th
 * 22:03:25: Timeoin: /me wants the badge :p
 * 22:03:28: Cheatcodechamp: as per policy
 * 22:03:28: Timeoin: ;)
 * 22:03:33: Bronkiin: Poor Tim...
 * 22:03:40: YulFusKrad: might i suggest something
 * 22:03:40: Bronkiin: Not for admins, I'm afraid :(
 * 22:03:45: Timeoin: I need another badge
 * 22:03:48: Timeoin: i dont have very many
 * 22:03:55: Bronkiin: I've got an idea Tim.
 * 22:04:00: The Crusader of Truth: So, is Renz' nomination removed or stays?
 * 22:04:01: Bronkiin: As insane as TImeoin.
 * 22:04:03: Cheatcodechamp: What did we decide on the polls?
 * 22:04:08: Bronkiin: It failed, CoT
 * 22:04:09: Shockstorm: we need lore badges made
 * 22:04:11: Timeoin: "Timeoin's Earned Badges (909)"
 * 22:04:12: Cheatcodechamp: I feel we have no order this week
 * 22:04:12: Bronkiin: For the third time.
 * 22:04:20: Bronkiin: And yes it does, Shock
 * 22:04:26: Bronkiin: I'll bug Atv about that xD
 * 22:04:46: Timeoin: bug atv ... he *does* things :P
 * 22:04:47: Timeoin: :D
 * 22:04:51: The Crusader of Truth: All of Tim's badges, "As insane as Timeoin", "As insane as Timeoin", "As insane as Timeoin", "As insane as Timeoin", "As insane as Timeoin", "As insane as Timeoin", etc
 * 22:05:01: Bronkiin: Spam ^^
 * 22:05:03: Bronkiin: Ban him.
 * 22:05:07: Cheatcodechamp: Gusy
 * 22:05:08: Timeoin: lmao ... they are, too
 * 22:05:10: Bronkiin: Sorry
 * 22:05:10: ~*LilithRayn*~: Bron...
 * 22:05:16: YulFusKrad: lillith
 * 22:05:28: YulFusKrad: might i suggest an idea on nominating featured
 * 22:05:32: Starkiller131: He is insane though.
 * 22:05:38: RenzXVI: YulFusKrad, what is your suggestion?
 * 22:05:38: Cheatcodechamp: So we have a poll nomination now, but what do we do when we miss our deadline?
 * 22:05:39: The Crusader of Truth: Timeoin is insane as Timoin, without a doubt
 * 22:05:43: Timeoin: "As insane as Timeoin
 * 22:05:46: Bronkiin: CCC, we move it.
 * 22:05:49: The Crusader of Truth: * Timeoin
 * 22:05:52: Cheatcodechamp: Do we do a rushed poll or do we wait until next month?
 * 22:05:53: Bronkiin: So we just vote at the same time next month,
 * 22:05:54: Qahnaarin1997: Tim I sent you a PM. :p
 * 22:05:59: Bronkiin: I vote for not rushing.
 * 22:06:11: The Crusader of Truth: What? I added a poll :P
 * 22:06:14: Timeoin: I saw it :D
 * 22:06:22: Bronkiin: When's the deadline?
 * 22:06:28: Bronkiin: For the poll poll?
 * 22:06:35: Timeoin: alright folks ... I gotta go :(
 * 22:06:38: Shockstorm: also should probly change badge names from users that arent active anymore
 * 22:06:43: Qahnaarin1997: Bye Tim. o/
 * 22:06:43: Bronkiin: :( \o
 * 22:06:45: Shockstorm: see ya
 * 22:06:46: ~*LilithRayn*~: Bye Tim!!
 * 22:06:46: The Crusader of Truth: Shoot, I needed to add online lol
 * 22:06:51: ~*LilithRayn*~: o.
 * 22:06:51: YulFusKrad: tim go get drunk some more
 * 22:06:57: YulFusKrad: next time invite me
 * 22:07:01: Bronkiin: I like being as insane as Ebony.
 * 22:07:08: Bronkiin: Or Ghost.
 * 22:07:11: The Crusader of Truth: Racist!
 * 22:07:18: Starkiller131: No one in their right mind would edit that much :p
 * 22:07:19: Shockstorm: exactly what I was thinking fgh
 * 22:07:26: YulFusKrad: ebony prices is insane
 * 22:07:26: Cheatcodechamp: Ok, we are getting nowhere, should we just end the moot?
 * 22:07:41: YulFusKrad: but i like doin' the fishstick. its a delicate state of mind
 * 22:07:42: Bronkiin: No
 * 22:07:42: ~*LilithRayn*~: CC Yes.
 * 22:07:43: Starkiller131: *coughs shock
 * 22:07:44: The Crusader of Truth: No, we should get back on topic. I keep forgetting its a moot
 * 22:07:46: Bronkiin: I Ok
 * 22:07:53: Bronkiin: I suggested something
 * 22:07:58: Bronkiin: So did CoT...
 * 22:08:02: Bronkiin: When is the deadline?
 * 22:08:21: The Crusader of Truth: For FI?
 * 22:08:25: RenzXVI: Before the moot ends, I want to say something while it's still official. I like the new chat mods, aggressive females are hot. XD
 * 22:08:27: Timeoin: whenever it means that my thalmor wins :P
 * 22:08:32: Timeoin: lol
 * 22:08:35: The Crusader of Truth: Renz xD
 * 22:08:39: Timeoin: SAHM's are hot :P
 * 22:08:42: Bronkiin: CCC?
 * 22:08:44: Timeoin: but im a bit biased on the matter
 * 22:08:46: Bronkiin: When is the deadline?
 * 22:08:48: YulFusKrad: thats legit and a fact
 * 22:08:57: Timeoin: (my wife is a sahm :P)
 * 22:09:12: YulFusKrad: wat redguard
 * 22:09:15: The Crusader of Truth: ...this is getting nowhere, though.
 * 22:09:18: YulFusKrad: or breton
 * 22:09:20: Cheatcodechamp: Do we have any other statments before we end the moot?
 * 22:09:23: Timeoin: it ends of the weekend
 * 22:09:27: Timeoin: yes, there is
 * 22:09:32: Cheatcodechamp: We got little done, and our current state prevents anything being done
 * 22:09:35: YulFusKrad: cot
 * 22:09:38: Timeoin: I wish to say that I love you all *hiccup*
 * 22:09:40: Bronkiin: Well, I tried.
 * 22:09:45: Cheatcodechamp: Ok, I think we are done
 * 22:09:47: The Crusader of Truth: Love you too Tim :)
 * 22:09:49: Timeoin: also, it ends at end of the weekend, bron
 * 22:09:54: Bronkiin: Ah ol
 * 22:10:01: RenzXVI: This always happens when Timeoin is here.
 * 22:10:02: Bronkiin: *ok
 * 22:10:06: Cheatcodechamp: I call this...Moot...to an end