User blog comment:ShawnCognitionCP/The Empire vs Stormcloaks, the most likely answer/@comment-9062114-20140611211441/@comment-12599067-20140614085832

I don't think you're quite getting it, Canuck. In all my time in Windhelm, I have yet to see any Nords (save Lonely-Gale and Brunwulf) hold any sort of polite conversation with the Dunmer. Might I add that I truly don't think those homes are quite what you think they are. I don't know if you've ever been inside one, but they're pretty tiny.

You say there's no evidence that the Dunmer in the Grey Quarter have trouble making it by? How about the fact that Revyn Sadri literally scrapes the bottom of the barrel to sell his wares? Most of what he sells is either given to him by wanderers or Khajiit caravans, according to dialogue with Mr. Sadri himself. May I remind you that bards get paid in tips, they are not just handed money. Nannies aren't really paid that much either. Dialogue with the owner of said market stall implies that he has to scrape the bottom of the barrel to sell his wares as well. The Dunmer sailor you refer to does not own the shipping company, might I add, she merely works for it, not unlike how the Argonians help unload crates at the docks. For all we know, she's getting paid as much as they are, which is to say not much. Given that the rather poor Dunmer are really the only people who visit the Cornerclub, I think it's safe to say that the only Dunmer in Windhelm who is truly successful is the proprietor of Hlaalu Farm.

Canuck, I don't think it, I know it. Adrianne outright states that the Stormcloaks only buy from her because of her husband's Nordic descent. And yes, Eorlund's steel is legendary, and yes she promotes it, but I do believe it costs more for a Skyforge Steel weapon than for a regular Steel Weapon. Even though it costs more, they are buying from Eorlund, simply because he's a Nord. Might I add that Idolaf was too stubborn to ask Eorlund to make steel for the Legion (which Eorlund probably wouldn't do anyway) due to a personal vendetta that has nothing to do with race.

If Ulfric was the freedom junkie that you paint him out to be, the Dunmer wouldn't be living in the slums they are now. He would actually respond to what they say and either give them supplies or give them a valid reason stating why he couldn't give supplies rather than simply turning them away. Might I add that if he's too lazy to get off his throne and tell the people of Windhelm to lay off on the Dunmer now, I doubt that he'd done so in the past. And it's not like he's not hearing their pleas, either. If you remember the quest involving a stolen ring that Mr. Sadri accidentally purchased to Viola, you'd remember that if you gave the ring to her, Ulfric would raise the taxes put on Sadri's Used Wares (which, by the way, proves that the Dunmer do pay taxes to Ulfric).

Brunwulf isn't a ruler, Canuck. The people are not his subjects. They are, however, Ulfric's subjects, which reflect his strength as a ruler. Might I add that so far Brunwulf seems a far better ruler than Ulfric, because he at least tries to listen to the all of the people of Windhelm, regardless of whether or not he is sitting on the throne.

I would also like to take a moment to point out that this mocking tone of yours isn't really proving much for you, Canuck. You can make all the jokes you want, but so far, I've yet to see a single valid argument out of you. Might I add that the constant use of emoticons isn't really something that backs up your arguments either.