User blog comment:Wolfishtail/The Ultimate Civil War Vote/@comment-6365350-20130606071034/@comment-7371906-20130608062024


 * "Anyway, regarding the Empire I'm going to have to defend them. Regarding the Red Mountain catastrophe, and the invasion by the Argonians, that was before Titus Mede took the throne with his men, about 10 years before in fact. There was nothing he could really do about it as he wasn't Emperor then. And besides, the Empire was being torn apart by petty infighting over the Throne by the Elder Council. What Titus Mede got was a fragmented weak mess of an empire, and I'd bet that most of the time the Mede Dynasty spent was trying to fix it.And how can you expect a weak Empire, whose provinces are ceceeding from it, to fight against such a growing power as the Thalmor"?


 * Then why didn't they do anything to help any of the Dunmer after the Red year why didn't they help any of the Dunmer relocate to other lands for refuge I dont see any Dunmer in Imperial controlled lands why did they let Skyrim the Dunmer's ancient enemies try to resolve all their problems hell Skyrim even gave away Solstheim away for free what has the Empire done absolutely nothing they dont even seem to acknowledge the event at all. Actually didn't that long internal conflict of infighting ended when Titus Mede took the seat of the Empire cause you know the whole point of the infighting was to see who became Emperor and that Empire had over a hundred and forty two years to resolve any problems to prepare for any invasions it wasn't like the Thalmor didn't show they weren't friendly when they severed all contact for over seventy years in a hostile takeover of both the Summerset isle and Valenwood and the Empire is weak and is only getting weaker which my point by allowing Thalmor agents killing citizens and causing further political strife unto the Empire and gaining further advantage by being able to list down any legionnaire military instillation to prepare for a future invasion and the Empire hasn't been to the Summerset Isle since the start of the forth era how much of a chance now do you think they have in fending of the Thalmor if they lost a province in the Previous Great War had a, civil war in one of their own province, and had their Emperor assassinated the Thalmor are going to have a field day taking over the Empire regardless if Skyrim secedes and if Skyrim doesn't secede then the Thalmor are going to have all three Provinces of the Empire leaving Hammerfell the only Province against the Thalmor whose objective is to erase humanity from Nirn to reunite with the Aedraor something like that and do you think that Elisif the Fair the Empires representative to become the seat of high king would enforce any resistance for her province to defend from the Thalmor if she was selected primarily because she would be easy to manipulate to become another Puppet ruler just like the many High kings before her no she is most likely going to surrender the moment the Empire falls.


 * "And what are you saying that the Emperor accepted the Thalmor's ultimatum and then they backstabbed him, attempting to take Cyrodiil? The Emperor REJECTED the Ultimatum. And because of that, the Thalmor invaded and havoc was wreaked. Also, considering the Empire's state, I don't think the Emperor could really do anything but accept the demands as they were, unless he wished to further strain an already strained and hateful relationship, potentially prolonging the war".


 * Um no I didn't say he accepted the Ultimatum of the war I stated that after he rejected the Ultimatum he barely did anything to prepare for obvious invasion why didn't he put legionnaires across Thalmor controlled borders why didn't he immediately garrison soldiers to hep defend Hammefell. Also the force that took the Imperial city was only meant for the Southern portion of Hammerfell that's how unprepared they were they were actually caught of guard by a force that only amounted to a seventh of Cyrodiil and they were able to take the whole of Cyrodiil with this force, killing many legionnaires, and had many civilians suffer atrocities from the occupation of the Thalmor all because Titus Mede II didn't respond to the presented Ultimatum and how does he take responsibility for his poor leadership skills when he finally regains his capital he sells out spiting on the lives of those who fought to prevent that very thing from happening in the first place and basically signed the Ultimatum in a different name meaning if he accepted the Ultimatum in the first place before the war the same outcome would have happened but there would had been no lives lost or any atrocities gained and the Empire was composed of four races Imperials, Redguards, Nords, and Bretons. The Thalmor military force only primarily consists of Altmer's they were essentially only fighting primarily one race the only province that was affected by the war was Hammerfell and Cyrodiil and Hammerfell continuously fought the the Thalmor after the Great war ever since meaning they had obviously have enough forces to continue the war and two other Provinces untouched by the war if he would have responded to the Ultimatum with the Common sense of a rational human being then they would have easily fended of the Thalmor invasion at the very start of the war preventing it from happening.


 * But anyway each to his own.