Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-1486547-20130805224453/@comment-10207438-20131027040230

202.156.8.15 wrote: Pink Slim wrote: 202.156.8.15 wrote: Hey, come on, Numidium worked with the mantella (zurin and some dovahkiin soul stuck together in a soul gem!)

Just because the souls in the mantella+tiber became talos does not mean you needed god parts for it true it didn't need The Heart of Lorkhan, but it instead used Ysmir and Zurin; Zurin was an extremely powerful battlemage; and Ysmir was a Shezzarine, he is an aspect of Shor.

They didn't use the Heart of Lorkhan, but they substitued it with a being who somewhat matches his Soul.

Plus Chim. CHIM is not limited to the gods and it does not make you one, only gives you awesome powers. Having a god soul does not make you a god (or else the nerevarine is nerevar, the dovahkiin is a dragon). Zurin was powerful, but he is still mortal. So, no god parts... I never said Chim was limited to the gods. having a god soul makes you a god, nor that Zurin was not a mortal.

Not a single one of your disputes are valid against what I put across. Before you try to dispute someone's claims, make sure that they're actually claiming them.

What I said was that Zurin Arctus(one of the strongest mages in tamriel at the time) + Ysmir Wulfharth (a Shezzarine and greater spirit)+ Talos(another Shezzarine, and a mortal who achieved chim) could combined achieve the same effect that the Heart of Lorkan could; especially when Talos was Manteling Lorkhan while using the Numidium.