User blog comment:Thedoucheinthenorth/The Civil War - Why it is great/@comment-173.20.179.52-20121103020616/@comment-5135631-20121104111024

I'd suggets you take a peek at this blog, it's the same argument I'm using but better articulate. http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Hippogriff12/The_Scarcity_of_Racists_in_Skyrim

Firstly, I'm not a bigot just because you personaly see me as being one in a video game. You've probably killed someone at some point in a video game, doesn't make you a murderer/killer. I'm not admitting I'm a bigot, I'm just saying you shouldn't always compare video games in real life.

You missed the menaing of a couple of my points:

2. The state governments of the South used these laws as a tool to push people down, not just neglect them. The difference is the Windhelm government is not actively involved in Dunmer affairs, but they did give them a roof over their head and a shot at earning respect, a few Dunmer have actually prospered and let go of their pride. They may be in the Grey quarter, but was it always a slum? It's logical; there's a rich district, the one with the clan houses, the palace of the Kings and Hjerim, and a middle district where everything else is, and the grey quarter/docks. Have you ever considered that the Dunmer went there because there was nowhere else to go? Would you rather they be shut outside the city, freezing?

4. You missed the point, there was no war in America in the 20's, so that's when the white house could have helped out, but they didn't. Ulfric has his hands full, yet apart from a couple of drunk racists, the Dunmer of Windhelm live relatively unmolested.

5. When this does actually happen, if it does, then I hope someone is around to stop it. But it is hasn't happened yet. Maybe future games will look deeper into the issue.

You say Brunwulf wants to help innocents. He does, but at the same time, he wants to subjugate innocents (the people of Windhelm). He'd rather the Imperials were in charge, which is more of a blow for the Windhelm community than anything to do with the Dunmer. He's a traitor because of this, not because he wants to help the Dunmer. He says Ulfric will ship all foreigners out of Skyrim, if that was true he would of kicked all the foreigners out of Windhelm and the Stormcloak territories, which he hasn't done and shows no signs of doing.

I'm not an anthropologist or a sociologist, but I'd guess that Riften has more secure race relations because either Dunmer have been their longer, there was more space for them to thrive or the Jarl cares more about foreign inhabitants (That's not to say Ulfric hates Dunmer, they're just lower down on his priority list because he is a more self-centered individual than Jarl Laila, even though a more honourable one).