Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-67.42.77.181-20150215034524/@comment-121511-20150305041009

Box Jellyfish wrote: -AR- wrote:

Box Jellyfish wrote: i know all that, lol. i'm being pragmatic about it and saying that, eventually, the thalmor will give up on that idea. Why give up when there's already great progress being made? Many of the Towers have been deactivated with or without their nudging, and given their superior military position, they also stand to potentially conquer the Empire in the inevitable Second Great War and outright stamp out worship of Talos. By the end of TES V, they're in a very good position from their perspective. if the position was so good, we would not have a treaty outlawing talos that lets the empire survive. they know where they're at; so do the people in power. i have no doubt at all that a few still want to go full divine, but the rest of them are probably on shaky footing. conquest is going to have to be enough. (i also have some pretty severe reservations that any of the gods above would let them escape this plane and rewrite time, and given that they can exist outside of it...you get the idea. the thalmor are playing with lots of fire in a room of gas and kindeing.) Just because the Dominion was not powerful enough to completely conquer the Empire in their first attempt doesn't mean that things aren't going well for them. Up until that point, the notion that the Empire could be defeated was preposterous: the Aldmeri Dominion shattered it. They were unsure that they could actually accomplish it, and thus had initial goals only of conquering Hammerfell. They ended up forcing the Empire to renounce Hammerfell and its worship of Talos, also helping to incite the Civil War in Skyrim, in turn further weakening the Imperial power base. Whether the Empire or the Stormcloaks win the Civil War is irrelevant: the damage has been done, humanity is further divided, and the Empire is that much weaker and that much easier to conquer in the next confrontation. And again, many of the Towers have by this point been deactivated: things are going very well in the Thalmor's favour.

As for the Gods, I suppose it would depend on what Gods you mean. The Daedra don't care all that much, considering that they refused to take part in Creation to begin with. The Magna-Ge don't care all that much, as they not only refused to take part in Creation, they tore holes through Oblivion and left. The Aedra were not unanimously in favour of Creation either, as many of them did not participate willingly, but were tricked into it by Lorkhan: hence Convention. The only Aedric Aspects that would oppose the Thalmor plan would be some of the Nordic/Imperial Aspects, and even so the power of Aspects to directly affect events on the mortal plane is limited.