Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-26213507-20150715194939/@comment-26356342-20150924230941

Just to add a bit more to the tail end of my argument, since I was researching something else and came across some more info. This concerning Galmar Stone-fist, Ulfric's Number 2

When asked about his reasons for joining the war against the Legion: "Reasons? Since when does a man need a reason to protect his family, to defend his homeland? It's the damn outlanders and Empire that need the reasons." It's odd he would specify "outlanders" if he JUST went the Thalmor. And Even if he did just mean Thalmor, this choice of words comes off xenophobic at best.

You can also ask him directly if he oppose all non-Nord races (which just the fact you can even ask about that should send up some red flags): "I oppose tyranny. I oppose those who tell me how to live, what to think, and what to believe. I'm a man. Skyrim is man's homeland. That's a fact. A fact I'm proud of. There's no shame in that. Read your history." Not a single word of that is "No" he just seems to cloud the answer. If someone asks if you're racist, wouldnt your first reaction be a knee-jerking "NO! WHY WOULD YOU EVEN ASK?" not some muddied, "Skyrim is home to man" answer?

Ask him about the aim for the war: "First we'll kick the Thalmor and their bloody Imperial puppets out of the country. Then we'll rebuild Skyrim into the land she once was. When we are done with that, we will take our army to the Dominion, and show those pointy-eared bastards not every man is fit to be their slave." Given how he answers the question "do you oppose all non-Nord races?" with "Skyrim is home to MAN", His words here about rebuilding the old Skyrim could be taken to mean many different things, including dominance over the other races within the borders of Skyrim.

When joining the Stormcloaks, his dialog is race-based. Again... weird that he has to keep bringing it up, or that the game specifically brings it up at all when concerning the Stormcloaks. The Empire never asks why a specific race wants to fight for them.

There just seems to be a lot of emphasis on race when it comes to the Stormcloaks. And Yes the Game allows any race to "prove" themselves worthy to the cause, but the Game also addresses the fact, not all recruits have to prove it just you (even if you are a Nord, I know, but still) and the mission you are sent on is essentially a death mission. Galmar admits he didn't think you'd make it, and only apologizes for misjudging you upon your return. What if you hadn't returned? would it mean that you'd be too weak to fight for the army made up of ex-military and farmers?

Even tho, their not as transparent as the Thalmor about their own supremacy, they don't seem too far off.