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2) Ulfric did chalange Toryig to a proper duel. Even if he cheated with his thu'um, it was worth it because Toryig was an idiot and a puppet of the Thalmor. Ulfric started this war with the Empire and killed thousands of men while the Thalmor just stand by laughing. Don't you see? The Thalmor wanted a civil war between men, so in a way, Ulfric is the Thalmor's puppet. The Empire has plans to betray the Thalmor when they gather up strength... now here comes Ulfric ruining the plan just like the Thalmor want someone to do. They never wanted the Empire, they are sick mer and want to be worshipped as immortal beings, much like gods