Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-13417807-20130726023954/@comment-180.181.142.191-20150123210359

Lemonizerchimp wrote: Hey,

First and foremost, let me also apologise. I myself feel that I too was getting a bit riled up and temperamental. And for that I apologise.

Now about my comments, I feel as though my points may not have been clear and for that I am also sorry, and I will try to clear up this misunderstanding. Like I said in my second post, what I was saying had nothing really to do with religion, and so let’s put that to one side for a second and address both the context of what I was being and what my points was in response to that.

First, the context that I was referring to was a comment made by Hooded Thief who suggested that reason they went to war was because they felt degraded that humans were ruling them. My comment and the point I was trying to make was about how they (the Thalmor and the Altmer/High Elves) were no longer ruled by men, because the do0minion is not part of the empire, its separate and rule by the Thalmor who are Mer, as you know.

That was my point plain and simple. That was all I was trying to get at with that post. When I was talking about staying there and ruling themselves, this was what I was referring to. And I’m sorry you misunderstood.

And I am not naive, when I said the war was stupid, I was referring to excuses made by people as to reason why they attacked the Mede Empire and started the Great War. Now, the two main reason that stick out, and are constantly used by their supporters amongst the fans of the Elder Scrolls (as far as I have encountered) are either revenge for centuries old injustices, and the whole religion thing (that I don’t really want to continue with because were both clearly getting heated about that subject). To me, those reason just seem ridicules and stupid reason to go to war, that’s just me, please don’t take that the wrong way.

My objection to the war is simple, it is very clear why they went to war and it was about religion, and that was why I thought it was stupid. If they had gone to war for power, to expand territory, to gain resources, then I wouldn’t complain. I am aware that nations do this. I am aware that sometime this is key to a nation’s survival. But the outcome of the wars says differently, the fact that they were winning, and clearly had the advantage and instead chose peace in return for heavy blows to the faith and for them to be able to push their religious preferences on everybody tell me clearly this is a war about religion and that’s what really annoys me. Please understand I am not angry that they went to war, am angry that they went to war over religion that to me is stupid. If you feel differently, then please do, I don’t want to stop you, and I don’t want to tell you what to think. That would just be hypocritical, and I am sorry if I came off that way. I’m just voicing my thoughts. If you agree with me then cool, if not, I’m happy that you have your own opinion, and I would be happy to hear your thoughts and views, after all that’s how we debate and that’s how we learn.

So please, if you disagree with me, feel free to say so. And I hope we can come to an understanding.

Thanks,

Lemonizerchimp.

Its alright. Thanks for apology by the way. But again (so sorry) its naive to say that going over war for relegion is stupid. It is but it has happened so many times. And in Tamriel where gods are real, well its more than just appeasing your mind. Anyway in the process they get land and power. They feel justified and they get power. In fact if anyone thinks most crusaders joined up because of faith, oh god you are wrong. You are not naive its just that comment can be taken as a naive one.

I was replying to your small comment about how they could have just stayed peaceful and not invade other provinces. Sorry on my part for not being clear. I am a bit sad that Bethesda chose to paint the Thalmor super evil. Its slightly cliche and sad for me because I support their noble cause. I wish they were handled a bit better instead of being the evil medieval Nazis.