Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-97.81.240.58-20130603234626/@comment-11444045-20141104053300

That definition is pretty ambiguous because of what I stated earlier: someone with those powers aren't necessarily a god, they just have powers OF a god. There's difference in that.

I don't consider someone with those powers a god at all, they might mimic a god but not a god in the context of what that would entail within Elder Scrolls. I would consider Akatosh and Talos and the other 7 DIVINES as gods. Just because Alduin has those powers i don't really consider him a god in that way. As i said god is pretty ambiguous word here, it can be interpreted in different ways and has multiple meanings.

Sothas wrote: The term god is hard to define in TES. However, it's still pretty easy to say that Alduin is a god. Alduin is a shard a Aka, the original time spirit. The LDB exists to stop Alduin from enslaving mortals because this is not Alduin's role in the Aurbis. He is the World-Eater and the end of time, not a slaver or tyrant. Alduin's soul is not absorbed by the LDB implying that he may not be dead. He could have gone back into the oversoul of Aka. Never anywhere does it ever say "kill" Alduin, only "defeat."

M'aiq is correct. Alduin is not Akatosh, but they are both shards of Aka. Your right it is difficult to difine a god in TES thus why I don't think it's fair to call Alduin a god but rather a dragon that has powers of a god, but this doesn't make him one. No one worships Alduin like the other divines or even Daedra for that matter. Everyone fears him as the destroyer of worlds.

With this being said, where in the game or lore does it specific the dragonborn role was to stop alduin from enslaving people? He was killing people in Sovngarde for power to resurrect his dragons to likely kill the humans hence the tag "Alduin return means the end of mankind, destroyer of worlds, the end times" If that's seriously the plot bethesda was going for i can see why everyone hated the main story as that is freaking stupid. Even Miraak stated he could have Slain Alduin to you if you play dragonborn from beating the main quest which last I checked, slain is pretty definitive of being permanently gone.

" verb   (used   with   object)   ,   slew,    slain,   slaying.   1.   to   kill   by   violence. 2. to   destroy;   extinguish. "

" verb   (used   without   object)   ,   slew,   slain, slaying.   6.  to <span style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:15.5555562973022px;">  <span class="oneClick-link" style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:15.5555562973022px;box-sizing:border-box;">kill <span style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:15.5555562973022px;">  <span class="oneClick-link" style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:15.5555562973022px;box-sizing:border-box;">or <span style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:15.5555562973022px;">  <span class="oneClick-link oneClick-available" style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:15.5555562973022px;box-sizing:border-box;">murder. "

No matter how you want to chalk it up, either bethesda screwed up there own lore with the game, which wouldn't be surprising at all seeing how Zenimax did the same years ago, or you're misinterpreting the game and lore. Either way I'm pretty sure i'll stick by my original assessement that while he does indeed have the powers of a god, he's not immortal therefor not truly a god in that aspect.

Also one last thing: There's actually some interesting discussions on the web suggestion that the reason why you never obtained Alduin soul would be because of the infamous Miraak, while granted dragonborn wasn't released it's fair to assume dragonborn much like all the TES expansions are part of the lore and has actually happened, so miraak in some interesting plotwist absorbed his soul in sovngarde without Paarthurnax and Arngeir knowing about miraak. Just some food for thought. I still think Alduin is gone and thus puts closure to the last dragon born and alduin fate stuff.

Well only time will tell with bethesda how they go about the alduin thing i have my belief and i'm sure many people don't agree but using specific, definitive, words towards something is kinda hard to deny unless of plot holes by the lazy developers.