Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-3539474-20130910213054/@comment-14359537-20130922001033

Harold Burned-Mane wrote: Let me put a few more holes into your High Rock plan.

If the Bretons see the invasion force in the Sea they can use their capatults and other siege equipment to smash the AD's boats to peaces, this could be avoided if altmer were aboard and used magic for protection. But since there isn't then the invasion force is screwed.

High Rock has a High King, if it is invaded then all the kingdoms would ban together to defeat the enemy. Also they can hire the orcs and other mercenaries if they need the man power or as they are really good diplomats they can probably just convince the orcs/mercenaries to help them.

Bretons as we all know are expert mages, their best school is conjuration. This means that basicly every breton can summon a minion, this doubles the defending force.

Also the breton mages can some very usefull spells: invisibility, muffle,-making it harder to see them in the forest when they go tracking the rest of the invasion force; detect life-(boom) gone is the days of not finding khajiit/bosmer in the forest because with this spell they are found; Many conjuration spells-like i said this is their best school, they can double their army(for a short time, but they can just cast the spell again later); various mage armor spells(not counting their natural ability dragonskin)-armor with no stamina consequence; Various illusion spells- usefull to trick the invasion force into fighting each other. healing spells-to heal.

Obviously not all bretons are mages, but as most of their preset skills are magic skills then i can asume that atleast 1/3 of the population are trained mages.

Sorry to pop your bobble, but with spells like detect life your guerrila stategy is gone, can't hide from that. So looks like the Bretons won't really need help from Hammerfell/Skyrim/Cyrodiil as  they can take care of themselfs. Help would only be needed if a much much bigger invasion was to happen, though with that many troops guerrila warefare goes out the window. Hmmmm....You're getting pretty good at this.

Lets start with the catapults. They will see us coming, so I can't say we can strike first. However, even catapults take time to reload. The ships can dodge the rocks, and fire away while they can. If they're loaded again and the catapults aren't all destroyed, repeat the steps. But maybe you're right. Get some altmer.

As I said with Slim, even if they're gonna send heaps and heaps of troops to defend, in the end, they're just gonna give more targets for us to kill. So coordination will benefit us too, and realistically speaking, they will only use detect life when the bretons know they're there. Same with Invisibility, muffle, conjurations etc. In fact, there is a way to completely prevent this altogether; use the altmer from earlier to cast frenzy spells.

Yes, detect life is a bit troublesome. However, it could be used to our advantage. Since the altmer are also skilled mages, they can of course use detect life as well. Once they discover the Bretons pursuing them, the Bosmer, experts at nature, can quickly come up with some sort of trap. If they can't pull back to somewhere they can.

And as I said, misleading. We send huge warships that actually dont have any troops inside them, so the AD will make them think their forces are much more overwhelming than they actually are. Also, there has to be a few settlements that are imprerial owned, to make it an Imperial province. The AD can target these, and the Imperials will take it more seriously.