Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-76.97.80.106-20130811163656/@comment-10207438-20131127181305

Draevan13 wrote: Zippertrain85 wrote: Not racist, the king was a traitor to Skyrim. Remember, just because he doesn't share your view of Ulfric and what he did does not mean he's wrong.

that may be true, but his reasons for why Ulfric is a bad leader aren't exactly good reasons.

It's been proven that at worst Ulfric doesn't care about race and only cares upon their usefulness in his cause.

and the matter with Torryg had to do with whether or not Torryg would have secceded had Ulfric asked him, Ulfric had no way of knowing that and he saw him only as a puppet to the empire.