Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-26213507-20150715194939/@comment-26213507-20150819024944

How come every time I look, there are no replies, then I look again, there are suddenly eight? Why world, why!

Anyway, to the point.

I'll start with S'Dalaarthe Snowcat:

" But a medium sized ship is a significantly different from a fort."

True, but you forgot the element of surprise. For Solitude, The Thalmor can place their ships behind the embassy until nightfall, then sneak where the Katariah was. Then they can sneak into the city during the night. It may or may not work, but for The Dominion, it would be a surprise attack. The boats can go to Windhelm by parking in the tundra to the north for a while while a squad sneaks into the city from the back at night. While they take out the sentries, the boats can park in the docks and begin the barrage. A little bit of a tangent, but I felt like putting that in.

" The Empire would not allow war with the Dominion unless they say so. In order for Ulfric and the Stormcloaks to wage their war against the Dominion, they would need to break the "shackles" of the Empire. To Ulfric, the Empire is not his main problem, but instead an obstacle to his ultimate goal."

I would disagree. I will bring up the point that if Ulfric had begun with The Dominion, The Empire would do what they did with Hammerfell, and there would be a peaceful secession. Unless the Thalmor bend the rules with the WGC and tell The Empire to attack the now free Stormcloaks, I don't think The Empire would take out a potential ally (remember, this is if there was a peaceful succession, not really what happened). Once they had seceded, there would be no more shackles.

Now, for U. F. B.

" I think this was horribly biased. You'd expect 1 or 2 Jarls from the Stormcloaks to be better."

I think he was a little biased, but I only disagree on Sidgeir. I agree with everything else, although some may say I'm biased, but there's nothing I can do about. Some may say LLamakingGod&7 was biased to The Empire being corrupt, but thats another story. Bethseda wants you to think that half the jarls are better on each side, but they're not. Many will make the arguement about Maven being worse, but she runs Riften either way, its as simple as that.

As for the traitors, yes and no. They are traitors for going against The Empire for the wrong reasons, but their motives are good if they go against The Dominion. So technically, yes.