Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-27007772-20140611204941/@comment-13446185-20140715200125

Br3admax wrote: Also, the Daedra can't teach CHIM, nor can they understand it. And CHIM also buts you above every mortal, sans none. Being a god with CHIM does not make one better than a mortal avatar of a god with CHIM nor a mortal with CHIM. Molag Bal was the being who revealed the existence of CHIM to Vivec. Daedra can understand it, though it is impossible for a god to achieve CHIM (this is the point of mortality).

JillKill87 wrote: Proof? sorry i find it hard to believe 3 gods at their peak cannot beat a dragon born. if that was the case why was tiber septim and his generals scared to invade morrowind and secretly entered into a treaty with them? Almelexia defeated Merhunes Dagon when he destroyed Mournhold. if she could defeat him i think she would have an easy time with a dragon born, again vivec flooded a continent and remade it and stopped a moon from falling on his city with his powers, Talos never stopped a Moon. sorry its just facts hes powerful but not as strong as the Tribunal, he was a mortal at that time, he would have gotten ripped apart, otherwise he would not have been afraid to invade Morrowind and it would ahve been the Dark Elves begging for a treaty, not the other way around

"Alduin may not be very impressive gameplay wise, but lore-wise, he literally eats the Daedra on a constant basis. He raises the dead."

maybe you mean lesser Daedra, not Daedric Princes lol. never said or read from what i remember in Skyrim that he could stand a chance to someone as terrifying like, idk Molag Bal or Azura or "ate" them. Would you happen to know that Tiber Septim was a Shezarrine, an avatar of Lorkhan? Who would you think is stronger, mortals who stole some of Lorkhan's power, or an incarnate of the god himself? May be a hard question to answer.

The Tiber most likely tried to hide his power, if you really want to know what a Shezarrine can do read The Song of Pelinal or The Five Songs of King Wulfharth, Pelinal was able to delete pieces of large areas of Tamriel and Wulfharth was able to manipulate time (not to mention the fact that the Underking defeated the Numidium in battle).

he was a mortal at that time

The Tribunal you see in TES III were mortals aswell, they just used the Heart to keep them from aging (their actual god-form was created by Vivec).

he would have gotten ripped apart, otherwise he would not have been afraid to invade Morrowind and it would ahve been the Dark Elves begging for a treaty, not the other way around

Actually it was the Tribunal who proposed the treaty...