User blog:Dutyclaus/Why enemies page needs to be kept

I hope the enemy is not going to be deleted just because of that reason, becuase that would be kind of robotic and not thinking things through and unsensible. There has to be more than just because it is elsewhere- why is it hapening there, and is it the same cicrumstances for blades.

For some reason, the enemies page for blade is needed. It is not redundant, unique, and offeres a service not provided otherwise.

It would be hampering to this fandoms function and purpose to remove it.

For example if you noticed, using the characters page is quite unsusefull for hte same purpose that the enemies page is for. It is hard to decern these types of enemies. After all, they are different type than particular hand made characters/ unique/ named characters, and it would be not so quite helpfull to take this input and add the chart on the characters page the ability to tell the difference between this catagory and the other. I won't explain that, becaus it would also be confusing to solve it that way.

Not only would it be confusing, but forcing the user to have to use that page just for enemies would be more work and worse than the issue with long winded and wordy articles, and that is without adding the problem of forcing the user to use creatures and the character's page. It would be kind of like expecting the user to go on a puzzle hunt (and know to do it in the first place).

I think It would be unencyclopedic to require the poor user to have to go through all those hoops just to get information that is right there. Besides, what that page is is very encyclopedic in nature and really really helps.

The point in every thing I do is to make things easier.

Like for example, I have made some pages into better resources of material than all my other sources, making them my favorite. It's not for me though, but if it is good enough for me, it will likely be for others, because I kind of... I'm one of those information people, and um, I like everything needable on the page more so than the average person, so it is very much something that helps everyone else.

I would also like to point out the whole thing with the creature thing. The first time it was deleted was because there was creatures, then, as a result of editing enough to have it caught- I went with it-, people saw that there were issues with the creature sheet (characters are not creatures). Okay I learned something, but doesn't that mean that the enemy page should have been kept and the creatures page pruned.

See that would have been more productive- to realize there is an issue with the other page as a result of being two, rather than just move one page to the other. If we stop to think about the page that exists, versus the one deleted and understand what enemy meant and creature meant, that would make sence. I get a pass because I am a total noob, but people who taught me the wrong in it might have known this then, and just did things without thinking.

That is inneficient.

Instead of succeding in deleting a page, the veterans should have succeeded in knowing the difference between creatures and enemies and, more importantly, understanding why that means the page isn't deleted, but the one that exists allready needs to have content cut, and kept the page.

That would be skill over succeding in a goal, and I believe that competence and skill goes first.

That is why I didn't have an issue with my page being deleted at first, because I didn't know enough yet to know that I wasn't being unskillful (was content because it seemed to me that I was being unskillful, so the skillful way needs to happen). I didn't complain and had no issue with that. When I learned what reality was, I still didn't have an issue, but I learned about circles.

Instead they eventually proved the need for the enemies page. See. If people slowed down and thought and got it right (like my goal- not that I had the vetrancy to succede in that end), rather than trying to make something happened, than whole circle trip would have not have happened.

Now here we go again, it might need to be deleted because of a string of words.

I have to admit, might need to be deleted is satisfying and seems well put.

I want to say this time that we could consider the mistakes of not thinking things through and realizing that there have been some decisions made in the past, over and over again, that have lead to some things happening for reasons that were nonsence and contradictory.

I want us to ask if that isn't being done this time in adition to all the other logic we try to use when deciding.

I also want to say that this string of contradictory logic that falls apart is not only exemplified in this issue, but has been happening for a long time and has contributed to a lot of other problems.

Hours and hours have been wasted.

And this stuff will prevent noobs from learning and keep this fandom back. It is unecisary, and this just a wiki or fandom is not not an excuse to be too lazy in thought. People come here for reasons, it helps them with something that helps them relaxe, which helps the world. It does need to be taken seriously, other wise no one care about unencyclopedic or tone or anything, because it's just a fandom.

I also thought of putting it on the character's page, but that would cause issues. It would make the page a monstrocity, and it would promote further enlargening by encouraging groupings of enemies on that page. Not mention, there would be those who want to delete the information because it should be on an enemies page.

Now imagine If I copy and pasted the info from the enemie's page onto the character's page. What would you say? It would be in a section under everything, a grouping of all info in one spot, no duplicate info.

Don't tell me you aren't thinking that that is nonsence for a character's page for several reasons. Tell me a big massive page isn't one of them. Okay fine, edit out the info about enemies (but only enemies are hit in blades, so that info about swinging- which is only doable for enemies, is not going to be comunicated anywhere else except combat... blades doesn't work like the other games, it has to written- and it doesn't need to be in the character's page- becuase you can't hit characters out of combat- and them in combat is enemies- so type just that; characters in combat count as enemies (all that would be needed on character's page- other wise yes, it would be necisary to keep the info about the enemies in combat and not just he chart)). See. Circles. Lot's and lot's of circles. It needs to exist as an exception for boatload of reasons, and just because it is elsewhere means nothing, I'm sure enemies sections are not needed everywhere else, but they are needed in blades in part because blades works differently, or the encyclopeding is to demanding on the user to not just one extra page that makes it user friendly...

A spot where enemies is easily accesable in one spot is necesary in blades more so than other games, probably because of the intensive reliance on rock paper sizors, and the importance on lists of information for each enemy. In any other game, no one needs a list of all enemies becuase they don't need to know what a spider does so they can switch out all there gear that one enemy, because in the other games switching gear is going to be based on different reasons that do not need a chart. (a player knows in skyrim if they want to kill a spider with a bow or sowrd, and they can do either without consequence purely game sence, but in blades, it's not player skill that makes a sword or another weapon a bad idea, it's its list of information- that is much less relevant in the other games).

So no, it doesn't matter what's going on in the other games, and it is a rediculous reason. And if it is gone, players will have to look it up on other sites.

It needs to stay not because it is an objective, but because it is actually very usefull, and often times players will die becuase they don't have access to the information that is on that page. So it is because it is very necisary, not because I want it or get find it convenient, but because evey one else will suffer as aresult of it's lack, and be frustrating and impair people's relaxation and recharging for their life and productivity.

I don't think anyone else cares that much other than personal preference on any other game. And I can say all this again in terms of personal preference- I was not speaking in those terms, and I'm not going to, because that is irrelevant. Dutyclaus (talk) 05:19, November 15, 2019 (UTC)