Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-76.118.67.131-20140922181150/@comment-16669347-20140924140832

Datadragon Odahviing wrote: Kadilkhajiit wrote: What? The no flame cloak not destroying arrows isn't a limit of the game, do you know how long it takes to melt metal?! To long to stop the arrow from making it through to kill you, and a bullet will go much quicker. An arrow will take longer to melt than a bullet actually. Bullets are already very hot. Arrows aren't. You also forgot the wood bit and fletching, which will cause considerable drag and deflection in a superheated swirling vortex of air. The wood bit would burn up and the arrowhead, which is flat will deflect.

Kadilkhajiit wrote: And no, not anone can learn to shout,only the Greybeards could teach you, and they only teach Nords they deem worthy. And it takes years maybe even decades. And shouts aren't normal magic, they're much more powerful, but there's only four old people who can use them and a few lizards that we could easily beat. Uh nope, if you were willing to dedicate yourself to studying a shout, you wouldn't need a greybeard teacher. It's just that nobody wants to put in the effort. But if somebody does, they will be able to master it.

No, you do have to learn from grey beards, you can't just learn a dead language with no translations without help. Besides we're talking about a war that takes place in the time of TLDB. There are four people who can shout and no one else, and we know that even knowing the language it takes years to learn to shout. We also know that with the excepption of the dragonborns non-Nords can't shout.

And a you don't need touse bullets to kill the citizens of Tamriel, they're are always chemical, biologicall, and nuclear weapons. And there are several limits to restoration, both in game and in lore. Hell, just go in to the Temple of Kynareth and there are people dying of something that restoration can't help them with. Wars in Tamriel would never end if restoration could heal an wound.

And your arguments about the flamecloak only work if the flamecloak is hot enough, nothing in lore says it is,plus that wouldn't do anything to protect them from a tank shell. Your argument about flesh spells is also moot, there is no flesh spell that protects against diseasesor chemicals, and none of them are as strong as tank armor. Again wars in tamriel would never end otherwise.

Besides you are suggesting this fight is equal, it's not, we wouldbe on the otherside of the Planet pounding them with drones, or out in the ocean using missles and heavy artillery, or in subs nuking them, or way out of their sight with sniper rifles. Or on sitting in bunkerswaiting for weaponized anthrax and/or smallpox and/or any of the countless other diseases mankind has learned to weaponize. Hell, they couldn't even hit us if we were just using airstrike, too high for arrows, to fast for spells.

Your point about them beingable to reconstruct our tech is just plain stupid. You either lack all common sense or you know damn well they can't, they cannot reverse engineer planes and robots when they're best achievment is dwarven crossbows. Even the dwarves wouldn't have a chance at reverse engineering 90% of our war tech.