User blog comment:4. 1. 22. 5. M97/Blog Critic: Why the Imperials are wrong,The Zipper Saga./@comment-9062114-20131211034754/@comment-9062114-20131211040932

After you get the Jagged Crown in the Stormcloak questline, Galmar and Ulfric can be heard talking about it. But I understand what you mean.