Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-209.7.3.188-20160303204000/@comment-26893431-20161024092929

Sports72Xtrm wrote:

1. The Author of The Talos Mistake is an Imperial diplomat of the Empire, not an Altmer of the Dominion. Leonora Venatus, Imperial Liaison to the Aldmeri Dominion, speaks on behalf of the Emperor and the Empire, not on behalf of the Dominion. Unless you're saying that the Emperor's men are Thalmor agents, as much as it would be tempting for me to agree, I think you give them too much credit. They lack the premeditative foresight and competency to do such a dastardly thing. The Thalmor's dupes, is more apt. Furthermore, to publicly announce their support of the Thalmor's agenda to rid Talos of his deity status in a publication is the Emperor publicly broadcasting him spitting in the face of every Talos worshiper, which they had to know comprises of a significant portion of their empire. Did the Empire not think that this public political statement would be interpreted as any other way other than the Emperor and the Empire so whipped by the Dominion and turning its back on humanity?

2. The Empire did enforce the Talos ban. ex.: Balgruuf: "I won't say it again, Vignar; Talos worship is forbidden. It's the Empire's law, and we're still a part of the Empire."

Vignar: "A law made at the tip of an Aldmeri sword, aye. A sword stained red with Nord blood. Is this what our people fought and died for? To forsake our most beloved ancestor and divine?"

Balgruuf: "I'm no happier about this than you are, but I don't want the [sic] see the Thalmor rounding up people in the streets and throwing them in prison."

Vignar: "Do your loyalties lie with the Thalmor, then?" Balgruuf: "I warn you, Gray-Mane, you are treading on dangerous ground."

Vignar: ""Don't threaten me, boy. You're either a Nord who respects our traditions, or you're not. If not, it isn't me you'll have to answer to, but the people of this city and this Hold."

Talos worship is equivalent to being associated with the Stormcloaks and even the Dragonborn was about to be unjustly executed for being labeled a criminal through association. The Empire either executes you for worshipping Talos if you get caught or sell you to the Thalmor to appease their inquisition. Seems to me, the Legionaire supporters aren't on the same page as their emperor as the book I cited is his public declaration that the Thalmor are the Empire's friends and are completely right in them abducting Talos worshipers and torturing them in their own homeland! To the Empire, his Talos worshiping subjects are Stormcloak rebels worthy of execution.

3. The Redguards never said they needed the Empire. They said the Empire could have won the Great War but surrendered because they lack the nerve. And history proved them correct, the Redguards took back Hammerfall without Imperial support. 1. She isn't a diplomat. She doesn't speak on behalf of the Empire. She merely wrote this book to make the peace last longer. The Empire doesn't enforce the Talos ban.

2. The ban isn't enforced, Balgruuf doesn't want to see Thalmor knocking on his door because the people worship Talos openly. The Empire allows Talos worship, as long as you do it for yourself and secretly. Do you remember Heimskr? Or the countless Talos priests in Stormcloak Holds? Nothing happens to them after an Imperial victory.

3. The Redguards didn't take it back by force. They asked for a treaty after which the Aldmeri left Hammerfell willingly. They say that both the Redguards and the Empire are needed to defeat the Dominion.