User:KINMUNE/chatlog/20180618


 * 09:59:53: RenzXVI: hi
 * 10:07:12: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: hi
 * 10:07:19: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: what's up?
 * 10:07:57: RenzXVI: Installed a music player on my new phone, testing it.
 * 10:08:18: RenzXVI: Took me a while to find a good one and the last one I tries has an insane amount of features.
 * 10:08:23: RenzXVI: I can pretty much change everything.
 * 10:08:39: RenzXVI: And that's just the free version, they have a paid version with more features.
 * 11:04:58: KINMUNE: Hello there, Оби Ван Кеноби!
 * 13:59:12: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: ello o/ :3
 * 14:17:41: Nekyn Alb: Hello
 * 14:18:10: The Crusader of Truth: o/
 * 15:52:10: Оби Ван Кеноби: Have you heard of the high elves?
 * 16:47:37: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: nope can't say I have
 * 16:47:46: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: ello o/ :3
 * 16:51:07: KINMUNE: Hello there, Qahnaarin1997!
 * 16:51:14: Qahnaarin1997: Hello.
 * 16:51:31: KINMUNE: Hello there, CarloV3r!
 * 16:51:49: CarloV3r: Hiya
 * 16:53:53: Qahnaarin1997: Hey Carlo
 * 16:54:20: Qahnaarin1997: How's it going?
 * 16:54:46: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: hi carlo and qah
 * 16:55:04: Qahnaarin1997: Hey Ash
 * 16:55:39: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: what's up?
 * 16:55:44: CarloV3r: Pretty good, just watching the worldcup
 * 16:55:46: CarloV3r: How about you?
 * 16:56:33: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: pretty good as well
 * 16:56:41: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: playing pokemon
 * 16:57:05: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: the netherlands isn't participating in this year's world cup right?
 * 16:57:33: KINMUNE: Hello there, Atvelonis!
 * 16:57:39: Atvelonis: ayy lmao
 * 16:57:41: CarloV3r: Nah we're not
 * 16:57:44: CarloV3r: \o
 * 16:57:48: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: hi atv
 * 16:58:11: Atvelonis: Bethesda changed all of the links to Legends articles a couple months back so I'm going through all the weekly updates and fixing them
 * 16:58:13: Qahnaarin1997: Pretty good. I have a day off work so I am enjoying it.
 * 16:58:17: Atvelonis: but they deleted like half their articles entirely
 * 16:58:21: Atvelonis: and no one archived them beforehand
 * 16:58:28: Atvelonis: So much lost information. A travesty
 * 16:58:28: Qahnaarin1997: Ayyy lmao Atvel
 * 16:58:42: Atvelonis: How are you qahn?
 * 16:58:55: Qahnaarin1997: Not too bad. Yourself?
 * 16:58:57: CarloV3r: Internet archive?
 * 16:59:14: CarloV3r: You could document the ones they deleted and try and find them through that
 * 16:59:58: Atvelonis: Yeah I did, no one had went to the internet archive to save them
 * 17:00:04: Atvelonis: So they're just... gone forever
 * 17:00:15: Atvelonis: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 * 17:00:24: CarloV3r: :/
 * 17:01:26: CarloV3r: Isn't any of the info in the updates themselves though?
 * 17:01:44: Atvelonis: Sorta
 * 17:01:51: Atvelonis: We usually link to them, sometimes summarize them (usually not)
 * 17:02:16: Atvelonis: So some of the contents of the lists that they have are lost, because we wouldn't have had space for those in the updates
 * 17:02:35: Atvelonis: I think, fortunately, none of it is *really* important stuff. No major lore or anything. But still
 * 17:03:37: CarloV3r: Mostly just gameplay updates right?
 * 17:04:12: Atvelonis: Many patch notes are gone, but that sort of thing is usually documented on legends-decks or wherever too
 * 17:04:29: Atvelonis: Lots of the tournaments and deck builds they have are gone
 * 17:06:49: CarloV3r: Ah yeah that's a shame
 * 17:10:18: CarloV3r: What's up with the Fallout wiki btw?
 * 17:10:26: CarloV3r: Their feud with Wikia
 * 17:16:40: Atvelonis: It has to do with the featured videos that Wikia has been adding to articles lately @Carlo
 * 17:16:59: Atvelonis: We're being hit with them too. And they suck
 * 17:18:07: Atvelonis: As part of the company's new approach to advertisement placement on the site, they decided to cut out several different ads and add one larger, autoplay video ad in front of a video. This supposedly improves loading times (I think it actually does, because the site has to make many fewer external requests than it used to), even though it's a video
 * 17:18:41: Atvelonis: The problem is that the actual video that follows the ad is basically fluff. They will often look at the wiki article, do a brief/slightly inaccurate summary, and slap on a bunch of random footage from the internet
 * 17:19:15: Atvelonis: This is problematic because it means Wikia is putting misleading information on our articles, and we have zero control over it. The Fallout Wiki is a lot more upset than we are, although we should probably be making more of a fuss
 * 17:20:10: Atvelonis: It's also problematic because Wikia was often using copyrighted footage for the videos/was not asking for permission to use it. For instance on one video about the Ebony Blade in Skyrim, they just used a bunch of Camelworks' video footage without asking - he tweeted about it at them a month or two ago and they promptly took it down, but pretty much all of their videos are like that
 * 17:20:16: Atvelonis: Most of them have modded/fan-made images
 * 17:20:33: Atvelonis: I have a really long email chain with the company trying to get them to fix the issue. It's slow going
 * 17:20:56: CarloV3r: Have you documented those emails like you have in the past?
 * 17:22:39: CarloV3r: I'd like to read them, maybe get some more insight i
 * 17:25:25: Atvelonis: Yes
 * 17:25:36: Atvelonis: I have every single email I've ever sent to Wikia in a giant google doc
 * 17:26:23: Atvelonis: I can share the emails in a bit. I have literally a thousand tabs open from RC so I need a bit
 * 17:27:08: CarloV3r: Lmao, alright
 * 17:29:19: Nekyn Alb: @Atvelonis: Have you looked if other language versions of those articles exist or have been archived?
 * 17:29:49: Atvelonis: I checked what I could find, fr and pt for some of the patch notes. Zilch
 * 17:30:18: Atvelonis: The internet archive doesn't automatically search websites, people have to go and enter a URL into it for it to be saved. And I guess no one did that for these
 * 17:31:04: Nekyn Alb: I think archive.org uses a bot that archives whatever it finds
 * 17:31:36: Nekyn Alb: Isn't there an extension or something that archives every website you visit?
 * 17:32:02: Atvelonis: If there is, I'd love to have it
 * 17:32:21: Atvelonis: They do have a crawler but I dunno if they can send it out to find things or what
 * 17:32:30: Atvelonis: I'm not really sure how the process even works
 * 17:33:09: Nekyn Alb: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/wayback-machine/fpnmgdkabkmnadcjpehmlllkndpkmiak something different but also useful
 * 17:33:42: Nekyn Alb: Oh now, it works
 * 17:34:01: Nekyn Alb: You have to actively click on "save now" but it's easier than visiting their page
 * 17:35:12: Nekyn Alb: *Oh no
 * 17:37:55: Atvelonis: I think I'll get that unless there's one that does it automatically
 * 17:55:18: CarloV3r: Pff I finally did it
 * 17:55:32: Atvelonis: ?
 * 17:55:51: CarloV3r: Armor (Oblivion)
 * 17:55:59: CarloV3r: All the generic enchanted armor in Oblivion
 * 17:56:07: CarloV3r: Now I just need to add the info lol
 * 17:57:16: The Crusader of Truth: o/
 * 17:58:38: ImperialCityGuard: Boo
 * 18:03:22: CarloV3r: \o
 * 18:04:21: ImperialCityGuard: Hi
 * 18:08:54: Nekyn Alb: Hello
 * 18:09:44: Atvelonis: hi
 * 18:09:48: Atvelonis: nice carlo
 * 18:10:40: ImperialCityGuard: Hi
 * 18:12:40: The Crusader of Truth: Every time you say "Hello," it triggers me
 * 18:12:49: The Crusader of Truth: I keep forgetting I set that as a ping
 * 18:13:09: Nekyn Alb: Why the fuck would you set hello as a ping
 * 18:13:23: ImperialCityGuard: Lol
 * 18:13:34: The Crusader of Truth: Because this place is quiet and desolate half the time, and the few people who join leave as fast as they come in
 * 18:13:40: ImperialCityGuard: Hello
 * 18:13:46: Nekyn Alb: /banned/
 * 18:13:52: ImperialCityGuard: Rip
 * 18:15:32: Qahnaarin1997: Atvel
 * 18:15:39: Qahnaarin1997: Have you played The Witcher 3 yet?
 * 18:16:23: ImperialCityGuard: Speaking of games with 3
 * 18:16:32: ImperialCityGuard: What about diablo 3?
 * 18:16:46: Qahnaarin1997: TW3 is better
 * 18:17:27: ImperialCityGuard: So?
 * 18:17:34: ImperialCityGuard: Diablo 3 is good too
 * 18:18:23: Nekyn Alb: I hope y'all played L3D3
 * 18:19:10: The Crusader of Truth: Have y'all played LSQUA yet
 * 18:19:57: ImperialCityGuard: Wat and wot
 * 18:20:11: The Crusader of Truth: LSQUA
 * 18:20:42: ImperialCityGuard: What does that stand for.
 * 18:23:50: The Crusader of Truth: Lebanon Society for Quality in United Americans, the Video Game
 * 18:24:18: ImperialCityGuard: .-.
 * 18:25:18: The Crusader of Truth: Carlo how many more images do you have
 * 18:25:25: The Crusader of Truth: You've done like 200 now
 * 18:26:03: CarloV3r: What?
 * 18:26:11: ImperialCityGuard: What?
 * 18:26:32: CarloV3r: Oh yeah I'm done now
 * 18:26:42: Atvelonis: @Qahn: not yet
 * 18:26:59: Atvelonis: but I should have a little bit more time this summer, so I will probably get to it
 * 18:27:02: ImperialCityGuard: Palp?
 * 18:27:06: Atvelonis: I want to finish it before Cyberpunk comes out for sure
 * 19:27:20: KINMUNE: Hello there, Starkiller131!
 * 19:28:04: Atvelonis: hi
 * 19:28:19: Starkiller131: Hi corrupt administrator
 * 19:28:24: Starkiller131: I mean at
 * 19:28:27: Starkiller131: Atv
 * 19:30:32: Nekyn Alb: Someone pinged me?
 * 19:30:39: Nekyn Alb: Hello Star
 * 19:31:03: Starkiller131: Hi nek