Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-76.118.67.131-20140926151711/@comment-13446185-20140926235611

There are so many different and conflicting accounts of the beginning of time in the TES universe. It's so confusing. Anu and Padomey are always first, but it never explains where they came from. Nir is sometimes involved, but rarely ever mentioned. And than for some reason Anu and Padomey decide to give away part of they're souls, Anu el and Sithis, which don't do anything accept give part of they're souls to create Akatosh and Lorkhan. Why did they do this. Shouldn't it have been Anu el and Sithis who created the aurbis rather than they're children/avatars

Well as for the beginning of the universe, everything was void, nothing could exist at all. This state is eventually (eventually may be a bad choice of words for something that has nonexistent space and time) broken when a force (or something) referred to as AE (Ehlnofex for "is", "to be") made existence a thing, creating the whole IS/IS NOT schism in the universe. Out of AE, Anu would come, and out of Void, Padomay would come. From this point on, the events of the first portion of The Annotated Anuad occur (they may not be an entirely correct view, the whole book is kind of wierd, however they show how the Amaranth began).

''The first ones were brothers: Anu and Padomay. They came into the Void, and Time began.''

''As Anu and Padomay wandered the Void, the interplay of Light and Darkness created Nir. Both Anu and Padomay were amazed and delighted with her appearance, but she loved Anu, and Padomay retreated from them in bitterness.''

''Nir became pregnant, but before she gave birth, Padomay returned, professing his love for Nir. She told him that she loved only Anu, and Padomay beat her in rage. Anu returned, fought Padomay, and cast him outside Time. Nir gave birth to Creation, but died from her injuries soon after. Anu, grieving, hid himself in the sun and slept.''

After Anu slept in the sun he became the Amaranth and began to dream his own universe, sort of starting things over again. This is the universe the TES games are in.

Anu and Padomay's first action is the birth of their own souls, Anuiel and Sithis, and it is Anuiel and Sithis that when morphed togethor form the Grey Maybe, also referred to as the Aurbis. The Grey Maybe is stabalized when Anuiel and Sithis birth their own souls to create the Time God (AKA) and the Space God (LKHAN), and with its stabalization other spirits begin to form out of the Grey Maybe.

And what happened to all of these guys anyway. Padomey lead outside of time, but obviously that's not true because he was able to impregnate the night mother. Anu, we don't really know where he is. Sithis and Anu el, I have absolutely no idea. Anu and Padomay exist outside of time. As for the whole Night Mother business, it is Sithis (not Padomay) who is claimed to have impregnated the Night Mother, though this whole belief is probably utter BS, the Nightmother is most likely a conduit for Mephala. Anuiel and Sithis, as I said, are the Aurbis.

And what is with all the different gods. I mean obviously you've got Akatosh, Mara, Stendar on the Aedric side and Azura, Dagon and Molag Bal on the Daedric side, but there are all of these weird gods that don't seem to show up anywhere in the creation myth. Y'ffre, Trinimac, Phynestar, Xarxes. Phynestar, and Xarxes role in the creation of Mundus aren't really known, however, Trinimac and Y'ffre certainly played large roles. In Y'ffre's case, he created the first of the Ehlnofey which would later sacrifice themselves to become nature. Trinimac, is known because he defeated Lorkhan in the Ehlnofey wars.

Oh yah, and is Alduin Akatosh, as the Nords say, or is he another entity altogether. Because I'd feel really guilty if I beat up and killed the merciful lord of the universe in Skyrim. He sort of is and he sort of isn't. Alduin and Akatosh are mirror-brothers, the same idea applied differently, they are seperate beings, but they are techincally the same thing. They are each aspects of AKA.