Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-27007772-20140611204941/@comment-25100715-20140715164031

JillKill87 wrote: Br3admax wrote: They were gods, but I doubt they would have been able to stand up to Tiber Septim. By this time, he had alredy achieved CHIM, I believe. They gave him the Numidium not out of generousity but out of necessity. they were gods, i dont think a dragon born could beat gods lol, gods that mind you at the height of their power made the daedric princes feel a bit scared of them. Vivec gave his people the ability to breathe underwater so he could destroy Morrowind and remake it, which imo is just as impressive as Tiber blasting away the Jungle in Cyrodil. also remember Vivec achieved CHIM as well from i think Molag Bal or Merhunes Daegon, that plus being a god i would imagine makes him one of if not the most powerful mortalish being that ever walked on Tamriel, much stronger then Tiber.

but yeah even if both of them didnt use their "CHIM" Vivec was a god he would easily beat a mortal dragonborn