User talk:Zelron/Archive 1

Reversion notice
-- 09:35, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

In regards to the Dragon flying up to the Throat. It happened in total 3 times and then after it started landing in the area nearby. It's not very specific but I can specify where it happened. It happened south of Ivarstead near, what might be, an unmarked location, where a troll has killed some animal(s).

I can understand why it was removed but it still seems like quite an interesting glitch/bug.

Finally, if not in Brittleshin Pass, where should I put the information about the Strong Box in the log?

Thanks for your time.

Fawie42 (talk) 00:20, September 12, 2012 (UTC)

Map 1 is of a hollow log near Riverwood, the log I found is north of North Brittleshin Pass.

Also I was a bit north of Ivarstead and it happened multiple times. But I realize that it may just be the one spot where if Dragonrend is used then the dragon will path up to the top of the mountain. You probably could care less but it'd be interesting to travel around the mountain encountering dragons and attempting the same thing.

Fawie42 (talk) 00:50, September 12, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the info, I'm gonna try it now! Sorry I don't know how to respond to forums... I made this just to ask that question.

Removing 'the player'/using 'the Dragonborn' too much
Greetings,

We noticed your edit on Urzoga-gra-Shugurz and would like to give you some pointers about writing style. While it is acceptable to use 'the Dragonborn' when editing, the reader gets bogged down if it is used too often on a page. That is where using 'one' and 'the player' come in. Therefore, we have replaced some of the instances of your use of 'the Dragonborn' Also, we suggest trying to avoid using the term 'his or her' whenever possible. Sometimes, just putting in the word 'the' will work just fine. Remember, we aren't getting paid by the word!

Finally, unless a page is long, it is suggested to not link anything more than once, (putting ' ' in, turning the word(s) blue).

Say Hi, once in a while.:-) DarthOrc (talk) 09:06, September 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * Greetings, No, we aren't being paid, but then we don't know of any Wiki editer who is. As for us using the plural, a glance at our profile on your way to leaving us a message would have shown you that we are just that: two people.


 * As for our qualifications, Dad has two college degrees, including a Bachelor of Arts as well as his Pharmacy degree. One thing he had to do was pass Creative Writing, :-p, so he knows a little about writing style.


 * Anyway, we weren't trying to be bossy, just passing along hints. :-D DarthOrc (talk) 04:06, September 27, 2012 (UTC)

U know, when editing the wikia first of all I'm thinking about usefulness of my edits. The information must be useful and\or interesting. The dragons in Skyrim have two breath attacks - fire and ice. The battle with two dragons was quite difficult for me and really difficult for a couple of my friends. This IS useful to know what type of elemental attack dragon uses, and prepare yourself accordingly. So stop vandalizing my edits and do something useful instead. Please?Wharrgarbl (talk) 07:26, September 28, 2012 (UTC)

Ok, I got ur point. But - u deleted info about potions from Voslaarum page. Well that was really useful info and still - u deleted it. Make uself calm and stop deleting everything u see, or it will be considered as vandalism and reported accordingly. Wharrgarbl (talk) 07:49, September 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * Greetings,

We are well aware of the Wiki Style guidelines. Using "the player" instead of "the Dragonborn is NOT prohibited. :-D DarthOrc (talk) 15:04, October 2, 2012 (UTC)

Shagrol
I would just like to say thanks for sorting out that vandalised page :) Alin Carter (talk) 21:01, October 9, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks very much for telling me that; I'm sure it will be useful in the future. Alin Carter (talk) 21:04, October 10, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Irony
Yup, that's me, as insane as myself! :) — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  04:56, October 18, 2012 (UTC)

Re Lighting
Thanks for your input, to be honest I didn't really "see" the staff in the background as I do know it's there and it doesn't disturb me when I look at the pic. You can't move it either, only steal it so I did that in the end and tried both to cast magelight as you suggested (too bright) so I used the staff. But the pic got too bright with the staff too, with white light and getting the closeup of only Elisif the pic was still more yellow. Anyway, I did get a slightly better result I think. I posted it on TombRaisers talkpage. EbonySkyrim (talk) 22:58, October 22, 2012 (UTC)

Why are you trying to get my page deleted?

Cornered rat revert.
Thanks for reverting that, i was sending him a message when he did that again.

Thanks and happy editing

Cheatcodechamp (talk) 23:30, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

Response to Blog Comment
Yes i am aware that editing histories are logged. Yours Sincerely DMK614 (talk) 11:28, October 30, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
I named the bear wrong on the pic of Shadowmere, (ashamed) thanks for correcting it. :)

EbonySkyrim (talk) 09:23, November 3, 2012 (UTC)

Vandal
Thanks for keeping an eye on vandalism with your recent revert to Greybeards. :)

Jimeee (talk) 09:52, November 7, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Sandboxes
Hey thanks for that. I was going to use the sandboxes but then felt as I know I probably wouldn't be around long that it probably best not to take up valuable TES wiki space. Lol anyways, thanks again. Yours Always; -- The Old World Relics (talk) 04:29, November 9, 2012 (UTC)

Regarding the "Deletion"
This is a large misunderstanding. Under Wiki Activity, I saw that an Anon created a page, so I thought I'd check it out to see if it was decent for the site. Turns out, there was 10 words at most on the page, citing equal-to-nothing information. The first thing I considered was revising the entire page, first by checking if it was a page to begin with, then by categorizing it. Then I realized that Bound Gloves were in fact two items, since it was from Morrowind. I attempted to delete the page, but I haven't been on the site in over a year, the layout changed. Simply couldn't find the Delete Template. If I vandalized a page, presumably, then I am sorry....unless of course I did nothing entirely wrong.

Hoping not to make a problem into a bigger one, --User:LukaSlayR13• "Each event is preceded by Prophecy. But without the Hero, there is no Event." 23:25, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

P.S. I like the idea of putting characters on th user page, like you've one yourself. Kudos.

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Ah yes, indeed it is. This is the first instance in which I have been warned. On a more friendly note, I commend the extension of creativity on your behalf, with your RP on the front page. Wiat a second....I said that already.

Not sure if this is how conversations end on TESWiki anymore.

User:LukaSlayR13• "Each event is preceded by Prophecy. But without the Hero, there is no Event." 00:02, November 13, 2012 (UTC)

Recent edits
I noticed you were dealing with vandalism by a specific user (I reverted one of his edits and fixed his vandalism renaming), don't bother giving warning template for such blatent vandalism (or even at all seeing you aren't a patroller) so anyway, the thing is, just report it on the VIP page... so we can deal with it faster.

Thank You....
Hello,This is Hades88,thanks for the tip.Leave a message on my talk page.

Orc Smiths in Markarth
We didn't get your point, sorry. (We were confused as to how a Nord could grant access to Orc strongholds.). As an aside, we feel that the section about gaining access should be changed to a link to the page Orc Strongholds for all the strongholds (except for stronghold specific methods). DarthOrc (talk) 05:26, November 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * To clarify our idea, we want to creat a link directly to the "Gaining Entrance" section on the Orc Strongholds page but don't know how to do it (if it can be done at all). Perhaps you could give us some pointers. Thanks DarthOrc (talk) 09:54, November 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the help, What we were referring to in our original message was that each of the four Orc Stronghold pages has a section on gaining entrance that is basically a duplication of the same section on the general Orc Strongholds page. We propose to delete everything that is not specific to the individual strongholds and link them to the one page for the generic methods of gaining entrance.DarthOrc (talk) 10:13, November 16, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks!
I knew something was wrong, so thanks for telling me. Introduce a bit of Anarchy (talk) 10:17, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

Re Policy
Hi Zelron, I didn't know that you couldn't have more than 3 pics as I have seen others have more than 3 non-game related on their profiles. I took the Blade pics for User:Cheatcodechamp to use if he wanted them on the Blades (Skyrim) page but he wanted to wait to add any pics until they had finished re edit the page and I didn't want the images to be deleted by accident until then so I put them on my profile. I was going to remove them when he had decided when or if he wanted to use any of them.

EbonySkyrim (talk) 07:51, November 24, 2012 (UTC)

Redirection
Thank you for your help and advice. I noticed the warning about possible redirection, but since I simply didn't knew what to do - I left it to the people who know it better...well, for you, for example :) Thanks again for understanding, I'll remember what to do in such cases in future. Wharrgarbl (talk) 10:07, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Vamp'eye'er
Haha, nice title! It's been mentioned on the Vampire (Skyrim) page about how the eye color has changed after installing Dawnguard. Have you visited Hert or Sybille Stentor? Finally they look like noticeable vampires. I'll see if I can fit those images into one of the Vampire pages. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  19:31, December 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * Clarification: Actually, before Dawnguard was added, female vampire eyes were hardly noticeable. They looked more honey-colored than orange. So, having Dawnguard intstalled changed the eye color type for both genders. I don't know if you have seen the character Hert, before Dawnguard was added, but her eye color now (with Dawnguard) is not the same color as it was with just Skyrim. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  19:43, December 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * What do you make of the image comparision on the Vampirism (Skyrim) page, then? The one on the left supposedly shows a female vampire, but her eyes are not orange like in the image you provided. This image was taken before Dawnguard. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  19:49, December 10, 2012 (UTC)

Alduin
I don't mean to contradict you, but dragons are not 'worms'; they're 'wyrms'. Wyrms is the term used to classify an adult dragon that has reached its peak of power. Dragons are never, however, termed as 'worms'. It is not a proper reference, and even if that is how they spelled it in-game, it is a spelling error and should not be embraced on a wiki of all places. Wouldn't you agree? GarouxBloodline


 * After double checking my side of the debate, I have discovered that dragons being referred to as 'worms', is the Germanic translation. Since this is strictly an American-English wiki, I will be restoring my edit. I hope you understand. GarouxBloodline
 * I'm not familiar with the word 'degretory'. Doesn't seem to have a definition through searches, either. In any case, 'wyrm' and 'worm' sound exactly the same through speech. And as a general rule of any wiki, proper grammar and editing etiquette takes precedence over actual content coverage that the wiki embraces. An exception would be to add a sic to the end of the word in question, but I've never been a fan. GarouxBloodline
 * I know this is going to sound condescending, and I'm truly sorry for that. However, Occam's Razor dictates that the simplest explanation is that the term used was 'wyrm', as that would make the clearest sense. This is backed up by the fact that the three ancient Nord heroes weren't the only ones to call Alduin a 'wyrm'. Tsun is a perfect example. Also, I would like to mention that the burden of proof is on you. In all of my playthroughs through Skyrim, I have never once witnessed the term 'worm' being used. I could absolutely be wrong in this case, and I understand that. But what is important is that along with never seeing this bizarre Germanic term being used in a Scandinavian setting, it also makes infinitely more sense for the proper term to be used, instead. And in any case, 'worm' would still be improper to use, even if it is the actual in-game spelling. Because not only is it against the etiquette of using American-English when considering editors perspective, but it is also entirely alien to the setting of Skyrim itself. GarouxBloodline
 * Like I mentioned on the other talk page - the subtitles said "worm" - i double checked that when I typed it out - and although he might have meant to say "wyrm", we need to go with what the actual dialogue is - otherwise it's a slippery path of correcting a million other things that we think the developers meant to say. Jimeee (talk) 02:18, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

Yisra's Beachside Combustion
Ok, I have looked everywhere and I have no clue at all of what to find. Just a thought now when I'm writing this. OK, I just found it.... stupid me. I didn't see the burned corpse in the middle as it has the same color as the ground. Thanks for the help... :)

EbonySkyrim (talk) 20:00, December 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * Just curious.... Saw you rewrote on the page, how did you know it was a she? How did you know she was trying to improve the spell? There is't anything at the site about this... :) Just interested to know.


 * EbonySkyrim (talk) 11:30, December 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks, had missed that as it's a broken quest :)


 * EbonySkyrim (talk) 21:44, December 18, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Faerie Ring
Yes I was in the process of completing the page, but I am having trouble uploading some screenshots in order to show its location. The explanation process for uploading images is very confusing to me, also I am recieving and error message saying my png images aren't acceptable or something along those lines.

I replaced the spaces in the file name with underscores, but it seems that the error message I am recieving is"File extension ".jpeg" does not match the detected MIME type of the file (image/png). "

Originally the screenshots were bitmap images, but when I first tried uploading them I recieved this message "".bmp" is not a permitted file type. Permitted file types are png, gif, jpg, jpeg, ico, pdf, svg, odt, ods, odp, odg, odc, odf, odi, odm, ogg, ogv, oga. "

So I fiddled around a little by changing the image types to jpeg and png, however the same problem occurs, I recieve messages similar to the first one.

thanks for letting me know about the page. i made a blog for it but how do i remove the page

Serpentine Dragons
If I remember correctly, I had just hit level 51 when I first brought my character to Solstheim. Not really sure how much levels affect their appearance, if at all. But yes, I was attacked by one right after leaving the Dwemer ruins, and was also attacked by one perched on a stone wall on one of the outlying islands. (These are the only other two I have fought along with the two that you've mentioned, as well.) Odd, though, because they're either only fought in a limited amount, or they only spawn rarely on Solstheim. (I have never encountered any back in Skyrim.) GarouxBloodline

Ebony
Why do you consider ebony as proper? Ebony is merely an ore, and so capitalizing it would be as strange as doing so with the word 'gold'; which would also be improper grammar. GarouxBloodline


 * Ebony armor is a general term for armor made of ebony. >.> You don't see us capitalizing 'iron armor', or 'steel armor'.
 * Proper Noun - A unique entity.
 * Common Noun - A class of entities.
 * Ebony armour is not unique, meaning that it is a common noun. Common nouns are not capitalized unless used at the beginning of the sentence. (Or using other grammar conventions that are irrelevant to this current topic.) GarouxBloodline

Bugs and possibility words
Greetings. As bugs, by definition, do not always happen, using words like "will" is incorrect when describing a bug. Happy Holidays DarthOrc (talk) 08:09, December 29, 2012 (UTC)

Your logic is faulty, saying "may" is still better than "will".DarthOrc (talk) 08:33, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree with DarthOrc, they are NOT recurring bugs. At best they are rare, except the weapon and armour stands, the rest of it is a "might be" not "will be" Take a look at other pages bug lists and see how they are laid out! Lee VEGETA  talk 19:53, December 29, 2012 (UTC)

Strategies
I'm not sure why you mass removed stategies from pages, but when making such huge deletions it's usually best to check with an admin.

We deceided tp place the srategies in the collapsable boxes to keep them out of sight as they were getting out of hand, however at worst they should be moved to the talk page rather than completely deleted.

Jimeee (talk) 21:59, December 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes, and you will notice I was the person who pushed for the proposal in the first place as I hated the direction strategies were going. We decided that older existing stategies can't be outright deleted but the useful parts should be kept, but moved to the talk page if need be. Jimeee (talk) 22:26, December 30, 2012 (UTC)

Removing Strategies
Hey Zelron. One quick thing: I saw you deleted the strategy subsections on several pages. This is ok, because strategies shouldn't be placed on pages. But its better you place the strategies on the talk page. This way, we lost all our strategies about certain enemies. Even though they don't belong on pages, placing the strategies on the talk pages will allow for formatting of the page and still being able to consult our strategies. 09:30, December 31, 2012 (UTC)

Severin Manor
Stop changing it. Read User_talk:LeeVEGETA Lee VEGETA  talk 20:06, December 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * You need to rewrite what you wrote on may page before state rubbish nonsense. Jimeee trumps CCC has he didn't really state anything, just general. When people look at a bugs list as "this WILL happen" is misleading. Bugs, in their nature are NOT a constant threat, they MAY appear or they MAY not!. You know what, in this regard, go rewrite the ENTIRE wiki pages with bugs list on every single wikia portal, and see how many people will challenge you on this. I expect to see thousands of edits with in the next 48 hours if you believe yourself to be correct.

You only seem to be changing the bug list for Severin Manor, nothing else. So your argument is invalid! Lee VEGETA talk 22:25, December 31, 2012 (UTC)

Why are you Undoing
Why do you keep undoing Jimmes edits, the stratiges are very helpfull?DeirdreKent101 (talk) 21:00, December 31, 2012 (UTC)

Bug on Find Arvak's Skull
Hey, Why do you say that Arvak's Skull not being removed is unconfirmed? It happened to me when I played through it on the Xbox. Kroq-gar78 (talk) 04:48, January 11, 2013 (UTC)


 * Ah, that's what my guess would've been. Thanks for the clarification ;) Kroq-gar78 (talk) 05:55, January 11, 2013 (UTC)