Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-209.7.3.188-20160303204000/@comment-28388246-20160510233517

I generally lean towards the Empire because they have more Jarls that care about their Hold's people instead of their own personal gain (Siddgeir and Maven being the exception). Plus look at the state of Windhelm - a serial killer is stalking the streets, a orphan kid is performing the Black Sacrament in his old house, and no one in authority is doing a damn thing about it. If Ulfric can't keep his own capital city safe, how will he protect all of Skyrim?

A lot of the arguments I've seen tend to boil down to the duel between Ulfric and Torygg. Both sides seem to agree the challenge was issued and accepted, but while the Stormcloaks claim Ulfric won and therefore should be High King, the Imperials claim he used his Shout to murder the High King instead. I'd be interested in knowing the rules for this kind of duel - do they have certain codes of conduct that both combatants follow, or is it more of a "last man standing wins" kind of thing? I haven't found anything in the game canon that tells me one way or another, which makes it difficult for me to decide if Ulfric has a legitimate claim to begin with.