The Elder Scrolls Wiki:Moot/Log 2015 November 28

21:01:17: Cheatcodechamp: Before we get into thinks, anybody have something to be said?
 * 21:01:41: RenzXVI: Finelia. :p
 * 21:01:45: Bronkiin: ^
 * 21:01:56: Cheatcodechamp: If you have editors on your FB or other sites, you can remind them of the moot, we have to go over old moots fast.
 * 21:02:07: Bronkiin: Is Atv around?
 * 21:02:12: RenzXVI: Cool.
 * 21:02:15: Cheatcodechamp: We can talk about her and the other staff all at once Renz
 * 21:02:19: Bronkiin: I only have Rim, SS and Atv on Steam so...
 * 21:02:27: Bronkiin: Not really contactable xD
 * 21:02:27: RenzXVI: ok.
 * 21:02:40: Bronkiin: CT against Renz XVI
 * 21:02:47: RenzXVI: O_o
 * 21:02:47: Cheatcodechamp: Ok, lets go over what we discussed last week.
 * 21:02:52: Cheatcodechamp: <.<
 * 21:02:54: The Crusader of Truth: No Atv?
 * 21:03:25: KINMUNE: Hello there, Shockstorm!
 * 21:03:36: Cheatcodechamp: !mods
 * 21:03:43: The Crusader of Truth: Hey Panda
 * 21:03:45: RenzXVI: Hi
 * 21:03:46: Cheatcodechamp: Ok, first order of business.
 * 21:03:52: Emperor Jarjarkine: yoow
 * 21:03:56: Cheatcodechamp: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:885430
 * 21:04:02: Shockstorm: hey
 * 21:04:15: Cheatcodechamp: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_Wiki:Moot/Tasklist
 * 21:04:22: Cheatcodechamp: Sorry, I meant to link the tasklist
 * 21:04:38: Cheatcodechamp: As you can see, little of last weeks items where handled.
 * 21:05:00: Cheatcodechamp: Besides admins, who else can rename things?
 * 21:05:08: Cheatcodechamp: I thought pattrollers could.
 * 21:05:10: Emperor Jarjarkine: hum
 * 21:05:14: Emperor Jarjarkine: I think they can..
 * 21:05:18: Emperor Jarjarkine: Custodian ?
 * 21:05:18: Bronkiin: I seem to be able to rename NPC pages
 * 21:05:21: The Crusader of Truth: They can..?
 * 21:05:22: Bronkiin: and stuff like that.
 * 21:06:00: Shockstorm: anyone can but existing pages and sometimes redirects can block that
 * 21:06:20: Cheatcodechamp: Ok, lets look into that, the Admins are having a hard time keeping up, so we all need to remember that if this wiki is to function, we all have to work together and edit.
 * 21:06:20: Shockstorm: admins and maybe patrollers can bypass those restrictions though
 * 21:06:36: Emperor Jarjarkine: wel;. remaming images, cust. can
 * 21:06:49: Cheatcodechamp: I will try to work on the merges we agreed on, I am hoping Jarjarkine and the other admins can work on it as well.
 * 21:06:58: Bronkiin: It needs to be made more obvious, CCC.
 * 21:07:12: Bronkiin: You need to know where to find the tasklist in order to carry them out.
 * 21:07:25: Bronkiin: And lots of stuff I can't do without the rights.
 * 21:08:12: Cheatcodechamp: I will see if we cant find a way to make the wikis tasklist more open
 * 21:08:27: Shockstorm: im splitting ring of phynaster atm
 * 21:08:30: Cheatcodechamp: We have a lot to do, and I do fear people do not know how much they can do.
 * 21:08:31: Bronkiin: Good idea, CCC
 * 21:08:46: Bronkiin: Actually, that does remind me.
 * 21:08:53: Bronkiin: I do have a quick point to raise.
 * 21:09:03: Cheatcodechamp: Bronkiin?
 * 21:09:11: YulFusKrad: i screwed up again
 * 21:09:25: YulFusKrad: too strong of a enchantment
 * 21:09:26: Bronkiin: "helping out" is a page linked on our first talk page message.
 * 21:09:48: Bronkiin: It's quite vague and intimidating. We should be more explicit about projects editors can get involved with.
 * 21:09:59: Bronkiin: Like, fix infoboxes and this is how.
 * 21:10:12: Bronkiin: CoT's project page is great for that.
 * 21:11:08: The Crusader of Truth: Forgot the link, letme try
 * 21:11:11: The Crusader of Truth: User:The Crusader of Truth/Editing Projects
 * 21:11:14: Bronkiin: So, yeh, an updated version of the "helping out" page might be in order. And it should be really obvious to find.
 * 21:11:43: Bronkiin: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/User:The_Crusader_of_Truth/editingprojects
 * 21:11:52: Cheatcodechamp: I will BRB, Renz, once this is done, start talking about our inactive staff please
 * 21:11:58: Bronkiin: Oh.
 * 21:12:14: Ikabite: Maybe I'm slightly off-topic, but asking for job on a wiki is pretty darn retarded in my opinion.

Priorities should be set, sure, but in most cases there's job everywhere you look. Just fix what you see.
 * 21:12:53: KINMUNE: Hello there, The Rim of the Sky!
 * 21:12:59: Emperor Jarjarkine: rimy :)
 * 21:13:02: Ikabite: That's a name I haven't seen in a while.
 * 21:13:04: The Crusader of Truth: Ey Rim
 * 21:13:09: Bronkiin: (y)
 * 21:13:16: The Crusader of Truth: How are you feeling?
 * 21:13:17: The Rim of the Sky: Here for the weekend
 * 21:13:26: The Rim of the Sky: Gonna be back at the Psych Ward by Monday
 * 21:13:43: Ikabite: Damn, you too.
 * 21:13:50: Bronkiin: Rim, we're making you leader while CCC is afk.
 * 21:14:02: Bronkiin: Well, I'm making you leader anyway xD
 * 21:14:17: The Crusader of Truth: Xd
 * 21:14:21: Bronkiin: We're talking about making it easier to identify what projects need doing for new users.
 * 21:14:29: Ikabite: You remind me of those sleepless night's I've spent here... damn, it's been 2 years.
 * 21:14:33: Cheatcodechamp: Im here
 * 21:14:42: Cheatcodechamp: Family stuff outranks you all :P
 * 21:14:50: Bronkiin: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_Wiki:Things_to_do
 * 21:14:56: Bronkiin: I don't think this is very useful.
 * 21:15:08: Bronkiin: If this is a Moot topic atm, the vote should be on updating this page
 * 21:15:10: Bronkiin:.
 * 21:15:21: Bronkiin: Making it more explicit.
 * 21:15:29: Cheatcodechamp: Ok, who else thinks this could be fresend up and revamped?
 * 21:15:41: ~*LilithRayn*~: (support)
 * 21:15:44: The Crusader of Truth: (Y)
 * 21:15:45: Cheatcodechamp: *freshened
 * 21:15:49: Cheatcodechamp: (+)
 * 21:15:55: Bronkiin: (+)
 * 21:15:58: Ikabite: (-)
 * 21:16:07: Bronkiin: I'll add that as a project to do, if this passes.
 * 21:16:08: Ikabite: It'll be fruitless.
 * 21:16:15: RenzXVI: (+)
 * 21:16:34: The Crusader of Truth: You can steal the ID stuff from my page If you want, most is done though
 * 21:16:41: Bronkiin: Shock, Rim?
 * 21:16:42: ~*LilithRayn*~: I know I don't do a whole lot here, but I would like an easier way to find ID things that need to be taken care of.
 * 21:17:32: The Crusader of Truth: Hey Star
 * 21:17:52: Cheatcodechamp: ok, 5-1
 * 21:17:57: Cheatcodechamp: It passes it seems.
 * 21:18:21: Emperor Jarjarkine: Cheat, guys, i cannot really be here, I'm dealing with alot of thngs atm :/
 * 21:18:23: Cheatcodechamp: Ok, Renz, should we talk about your next concern?
 * 21:18:27: Emperor Jarjarkine: I'm gonna follow as much as I can
 * 21:18:33: Cheatcodechamp: Of course Jarjarkine, do what needs doing.
 * 21:18:51: Bronkiin: Right, I'll add that to my list of things to do.
 * 21:18:52: The Crusader of Truth: I'll try to add to that when I can, too
 * 21:18:58: RenzXVI: I don't know which other staff are inactive. I just know about FInelia.
 * 21:19:13: Cheatcodechamp: Sleeping of the news team, and Gaminomicon
 * 21:19:15: ~*LilithRayn*~: Is there a full list of staff member, where you can go over dates ?
 * 21:19:33: Ikabite: Sleeping is still around?
 * 21:19:38: Cheatcodechamp: we have a list of staff, but not last editing dates
 * 21:19:41: Bronkiin: I haven't seen him...
 * 21:19:52: The Crusader of Truth: Contributions?
 * 21:20:00: Cheatcodechamp: No, he is inactive, has been for months.
 * 21:20:02: ~*LilithRayn*~: I don't mind looking over it.
 * 21:20:03: Cheatcodechamp: It can
 * 21:20:27: Cheatcodechamp: We hoped he would, last I heard he had health problems, never heard from him since.
 * 21:20:32: YulFusKrad: rayn
 * 21:20:35: ~*LilithRayn*~: Where do I find the list?
 * 21:20:40: ~*LilithRayn*~: Yes, Yul?
 * 21:20:41: Bronkiin: We have actuall, CCC
 * 21:20:45: Bronkiin: *actually
 * 21:20:48: YulFusKrad: i screwed up and gotta redo
 * 21:20:57: ~*LilithRayn*~: Yul, tell me about once this is over, ok?
 * 21:20:59: RenzXVI: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_Wiki:Staff
 * 21:21:04: ~*LilithRayn*~: Thank you Renz.
 * 21:21:21: Bronkiin: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Gaminomicon
 * 21:21:26: Bronkiin: His message at the top.
 * 21:21:31: Bronkiin: Oct 29
 * 21:21:41: ~*LilithRayn*~: I do not know when Tim will be back, he has a lot going on right now.
 * 21:21:54: Bronkiin: Tim has made edits recently.
 * 21:21:58: Bronkiin: He's no prob.
 * 21:21:59: ~*LilithRayn*~: Oh good.
 * 21:22:01: The Crusader of Truth: Fin, Sleeping, Gam?
 * 21:22:55: RenzXVI: So, how are those handled? CT?
 * 21:23:10: Bronkiin: There were a load of staff reviews a while back.
 * 21:23:19: RenzXVI: Fine1234, are you online?
 * 21:23:21: Bronkiin: It's hard to tell with Gamin. He''ll be back,
 * 21:23:33: Bronkiin: but will he still keep his rights?
 * 21:23:37: Bronkiin: He's been marked as retired.
 * 21:23:38: Cheatcodechamp: Ok, well I am glad he is alive, I kid you not I feared the worst.
 * 21:23:50: Cheatcodechamp: Ok, that leaves sleeping and Queen.
 * 21:23:53: Bronkiin: He was on chat a while back, he should be fine/
 * 21:23:56: Bronkiin: Fin needs to go.
 * 21:24:02: RenzXVI: :p
 * 21:24:08: Bronkiin: She didn't do her job properly even when she was active.
 * 21:24:22: Bronkiin: I don't think this needs a CT.
 * 21:24:23: Cheatcodechamp: I think its best to retire Sleeping. I do not recall much activity before he vanished, and its been months.
 * 21:24:34: Bronkiin: Agreed.
 * 21:24:35: Cheatcodechamp: If most of us vote, we can settle this now.
 * 21:24:44: Bronkiin: Ok.
 * 21:24:45: RenzXVI: Ok.
 * 21:24:50: ~*LilithRayn*~: It looks like it's just those 2.
 * 21:24:54: Bronkiin: Yep.
 * 21:25:03: Bronkiin: There are a few semi-actives.
 * 21:25:27: The Crusader of Truth: (Support) for sleeping, and support for fin
 * 21:25:29: Cheatcodechamp: I like Queen a lot, but her job performance was lackluster, and has been gone some time. I think both need to be retired, and if they return we can discuss their jobs then
 * 21:25:36: ~*LilithRayn*~: (support) For both
 * 21:25:49: Bronkiin: (+)
 * 21:25:52: Bronkiin: Fin out.
 * 21:26:08: Starkiller131: (Support ) for both. :P
 * 21:26:13: RenzXVI: Fine1234, please tell me if you are there.
 * 21:26:27: The Crusader of Truth: Like at the end of some video games, "Fin" :P
 * 21:26:28: Ikabite: (+) For sleep.
 * 21:26:29: ~*LilithRayn*~: Fine has been in and out for a while.
 * 21:26:49: Shockstorm: (+)
 * 21:26:53: Cheatcodechamp: Any objections to either being retired?
 * 21:26:57: Bronkiin: No.
 * 21:27:04: ~*LilithRayn*~: No.
 * 21:27:08: The Crusader of Truth: High Queen Goddess Finela, something like that
 * 21:27:17: The Rim of the Sky: (Neutral)
 * 21:27:32: The Rim of the Sky: I haven't been on much lately so I don't know, voting indifferently
 * 21:27:49: YulFusKrad: whats being retired
 * 21:27:57: YulFusKrad: i was eating a turkey leg
 * 21:28:02: The Crusader of Truth: Gold?
 * 21:28:03: RenzXVI: Inactive staff.
 * 21:28:03: Bronkiin: Rim, when you're back, have an ESO NPC blitz.
 * 21:28:04: Cheatcodechamp: We remove their tools as staff members
 * 21:28:23: YulFusKrad: oh i dont object to innactive people
 * 21:28:27: Bronkiin: We want 40 000 pages by New Year.
 * 21:28:33: Cheatcodechamp: they can still edit if they return, but will not have the "jobs" they left behind.
 * 21:28:36: Bronkiin: And can we just kick Fine?
 * 21:28:37: The Crusader of Truth: Guessing Gold is afk
 * 21:28:47: G0LD3NF1RE: Sort of
 * 21:28:51: Bronkiin: Is that the same for gamin, CCC?
 * 21:28:58: Bronkiin: Because he's also marked as retired.
 * 21:29:19: The Crusader of Truth: ^
 * 21:29:22: RenzXVI: It's not letting me kick Fine1234.
 * 21:29:28: ~*LilithRayn*~: Why not?
 * 21:29:33: Cheatcodechamp: He is already retired, so I think its been handled unless he still has his rights
 * 21:29:39: Bronkiin: He does have the rights.
 * 21:29:41: Bronkiin: I think.
 * 21:29:55: Bronkiin: He's marked as inactive, but still has the yellow...
 * 21:29:56: Cheatcodechamp: He does.
 * 21:29:58: Bronkiin: One sec.
 * 21:30:01: Bronkiin: Oh ok.
 * 21:30:04: KINMUNE: Hello there, Ashley Kirshbaum!
 * 21:30:08: ~*LilithRayn*~: Ashley!
 * 21:30:09: ~*LilithRayn*~: o.
 * 21:30:12: The Crusader of Truth: Hey Ashley
 * 21:30:12: Ashley Kirshbaum: hi
 * 21:30:13: Bronkiin: Hey \o
 * 21:30:24: Cheatcodechamp: So, I guess we discuss him next
 * G0LD3NF1RE kicked Fine1234
 * 21:30:35: ~*LilithRayn*~: ^
 * 21:30:40: ~*LilithRayn*~: Thank you GOLD
 * 21:30:51: G0LD3NF1RE: Why are we kicking him again?
 * 21:31:04: Cheatcodechamp: Its been a month since last contact from him, the most recent activity form any of them.
 * 21:31:25: Bronkiin: True.
 * 21:31:35: The Crusader of Truth: I say (support) for removing his rights. He's a great editor, but the inactivity clearly is against policy
 * 21:32:15: Cheatcodechamp: Most every staff member has gone on long term hiatus. I did several times, its more a guideline then a rule at this point.
 * 21:32:42: Cheatcodechamp: Im not defending it fully, but the policy argument is not our strongest one.
 * 21:33:00: ~*LilithRayn*~: Who are we discussing? Sleep?
 * 21:33:04: Cheatcodechamp: Gamin
 * 21:33:10: ~*LilithRayn*~: Oh, ok. SOrry.
 * 21:33:13: G0LD3NF1RE: Gamin said he would return December
 * 21:33:19: Bronkiin: Well, lets put it this way. If he ran for patroller tomorrow, would we vote for him?
 * 21:33:21: Cheatcodechamp: His last edit was October 29
 * 21:33:24: RenzXVI: I am neutral about Gamin.
 * 21:33:36: Bronkiin: Because he was staff for a very short period before going inactive.
 * 21:34:23: Cheatcodechamp: Tomorrow is one month, and he is saying he will return December. Unlike the other two, he has a clear history and record, some may look at this slightly diffrently.
 * 21:34:44: Bronkiin: He has a record as editor, not patroller.
 * 21:35:01: Bronkiin: He went inactive after being patroller for less than a month, iirc.
 * 21:35:04: Cheatcodechamp: If we did a vote tomorrow, I would still support him being a patroller, but thats just me.
 * 21:35:10: G0LD3NF1RE: Same
 * 21:35:16: Bronkiin: I can't judge, of course. xD
 * 21:35:24: Bronkiin: Haven't seen him as an editor or patroller.
 * 21:35:49: Emperor Jarjarkine: hmm
 * 21:36:00: Cheatcodechamp: He added images for almost every MW NPC, we are the only wiki to show images for most of them because of him.
 * 21:36:05: ~*LilithRayn*~: What if we just wait a week, and revisit this at the next meeting, if he isn't back yet?
 * 21:36:08: Emperor Jarjarkine: About that...
 * 21:36:14: RenzXVI: Most people who are demoted are people who suddenly disappeared and no clue on if they are coming back, Gaminomicon said he will disappear and that he will be back.
 * 21:36:16: Cheatcodechamp: He also was putting a massive dent in the MW locations and DLC's
 * 21:36:21: Emperor Jarjarkine: Is it a need to remove inactive user's right ?
 * 21:36:38: Bronkiin: I don't think it's a need.
 * 21:36:52: Cheatcodechamp: Not a "need" but something that needs to be discussed. I still oppose us remvoginb Grams rights
 * 21:36:56: Cheatcodechamp: removing
 * 21:37:27: G0LD3NF1RE: He said he would be back December, so imo we atleast wait until December.
 * 21:37:36: RenzXVI: ^
 * 21:37:38: Emperor Jarjarkine: some wikias, such as Runescape leave the rights of inactive admins
 * 21:37:38: ~*LilithRayn*~: ^ I agree
 * 21:37:43: Emperor Jarjarkine: COD wikia does to
 * 21:37:49: ~*LilithRayn*~: Uuumm...with Gold, I agree. lol
 * 21:37:52: Shockstorm: gotta be afk now. Btw I oppose removing Gami's rights
 * 21:37:55: Bronkiin: I think we can vote, actually.
 * 21:38:02: Bronkiin: Looks like a consensus.
 * 21:38:03: KINMUNE: Hello there, Pelinal Whitestrake!
 * 21:38:07: Bronkiin: \o
 * 21:38:09: Pelinal Whitestrake: Hello
 * 21:38:12: ~*LilithRayn*~: o. Hello.
 * 21:38:19: RenzXVI: Hi Pelinal Whitestrake.
 * 21:38:29: RenzXVI: I'd oppose too.
 * 21:38:35: Cheatcodechamp: Ok, so do we want to give Gamin a month to see if he will return this December, or not?
 * 21:38:41: Bronkiin: Yep
 * 21:38:44: G0LD3NF1RE: (support)
 * 21:38:46: RenzXVI: Yeah.
 * 21:38:48: ~*LilithRayn*~: (support)
 * 21:38:51: Bronkiin: Give him that, at least. (+)
 * 21:38:55: RenzXVI: (+)
 * 21:38:57: Pelinal Whitestrake: What's the topic?
 * 21:39:03: Emperor Jarjarkine: (y)
 * 21:39:05: Cheatcodechamp: Is the plus for waiting or demoting?
 * 21:39:09: Emperor Jarjarkine: (+)
 * 21:39:09: ~*LilithRayn*~: Waiting
 * 21:39:10: Bronkiin: Waiting.
 * 21:39:12: Cheatcodechamp: Gamin's patroller rights
 * 21:39:16: RenzXVI: Waiing.
 * 21:39:17: Cheatcodechamp: Ok (+)
 * 21:39:21: G0LD3NF1RE: Waiting a bit to remove Gamin's rights since he said he would be back December Pelinal Whitestrake
 * 21:39:52: Pelinal Whitestrake: Who is Gamin?
 * 21:39:58: Cheatcodechamp: Gaminomicon
 * 21:40:03: Pelinal Whitestrake: Oh
 * 21:40:05: Cheatcodechamp: All the morrowind images
 * 21:40:12: Cheatcodechamp: cookies for everyone
 * 21:40:20: Pelinal Whitestrake: I don't know enough about that guy, can't really vote.
 * 21:40:21: G0LD3NF1RE: (sweetroll) for everyone
 * 21:40:29: ~*LilithRayn*~: Mmm
 * 21:40:51: Cheatcodechamp: Ok, we will wait
 * 21:40:59: Cheatcodechamp: do we have other subjects?
 * 21:41:03: RenzXVI: I always support removal of rights when the user has no announcements for a return but if they do, I don't see why there's a need to remove rights too quick, unless he is still not here after December.
 * 21:41:23: Bronkiin: I'm looking forward to seeing him around
 * 21:41:48: G0LD3NF1RE: yip yip
 * 21:42:22: The Crusader of Truth: Gaminomicon is a great user
 * 21:42:26: Cheatcodechamp: It seems we handled that all pretty well. Do we want to handle some maintenance or call it a day?
 * 21:42:39: G0LD3NF1RE: Well
 * 21:42:51: Cheatcodechamp: unless we have other items that need doing?
 * 21:42:51: G0LD3NF1RE: Did we change poll every month or what was it?
 * 21:43:07: G0LD3NF1RE: Cause if we do then we don't have any poll suggestions
 * 21:43:10: Cheatcodechamp: We need a new poll nominated, but we have two days for one to pop up
 * 21:43:35: Cheatcodechamp: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_Wiki%3AFeaturedPoll
 * 21:43:46: The Crusader of Truth: Beat me to it! :P
 * 21:43:58: Bronkiin: We should keep it up a bit longer imo
 * 21:43:58: ~*LilithRayn*~: lol
 * 21:44:02: G0LD3NF1RE: We already have a FA, FQ and FP?
 * 21:44:06: Bronkiin: Just milk it for a bit.
 * 21:44:15: Cheatcodechamp: Ill do a reminder as well in the update. If nothing else we can wing it.
 * 21:44:21: Bronkiin: ^
 * 21:44:25: Cheatcodechamp: Quote and image have nominations as well
 * 21:44:33: Cheatcodechamp: We need a Featured Article nominated.
 * 21:44:34: G0LD3NF1RE: No picture?
 * 21:44:37: G0LD3NF1RE: oh right
 * 21:44:37: Bronkiin: It's a good image.
 * 21:44:47: Bronkiin: We used to vote for them in Moot....
 * 21:45:04: Bronkiin: YESS
 * 21:45:07: ~*LilithRayn*~: Atvelonis! Hello.
 * 21:45:08: Bronkiin: \o
 * 21:45:09: RenzXVI: Hi Atvelonis.
 * 21:45:11: Cheatcodechamp: We have the pages now, turns out we voted on doing the pages long ago
 * 21:45:19: G0LD3NF1RE: Have any topics Atve?
 * 21:45:20: Bronkiin: We've just voted to remove your rights, Atv.
 * 21:45:27: Atvelonis: I don't think so?
 * 21:45:28: ~*LilithRayn*~: Yeah, you were so later
 * 21:45:30: ~*LilithRayn*~: late*
 * 21:45:38: ~*LilithRayn*~: lol
 * 21:45:39: Atvelonis: Oh lol ok
 * 21:45:48: G0LD3NF1RE: We still need a FA i guess
 * 21:45:51: Bronkiin: We still need to add them to the mainpage.
 * 21:45:55: Bronkiin: The image and quote.
 * 21:45:57: ~*LilithRayn*~: What is FA?
 * 21:45:58: Bronkiin: I can't do that.
 * 21:46:01: G0LD3NF1RE: Feature Article
 * 21:46:02: Bronkiin: Featured article
 * 21:46:03: Bronkiin: ...
 * 21:46:03: Atvelonis: Featured article
 * 21:46:06: ~*LilithRayn*~: Oooh Ok
 * 21:46:12: Atvelonis: uhhh lemme think
 * 21:46:13: ~*LilithRayn*~: I put up a quote.
 * 21:46:17: Atvelonis: is Nordic empire a good article yet
 * 21:46:24: Atvelonis: Nordic Empire
 * 21:46:37: Cheatcodechamp: No
 * 21:46:47: Cheatcodechamp: And some of our GA's are really pushing it
 * 21:46:49: Atvelonis: Can we rush it through GA to get it to FA
 * 21:46:51: Shockstorm: its a fabulous article (FA)
 * 21:46:59: ~*LilithRayn*~: ^
 * 21:47:00: ~*LilithRayn*~: lol
 * 21:47:04: Bronkiin: Funky Artice.
 * 21:47:06: Bronkiin: ...
 * 21:47:13: Bronkiin: *article, lol
 * 21:47:14: Atvelonis:
 * 21:47:22: Cheatcodechamp: Frigen Altmer
 * 21:47:32: G0LD3NF1RE: Freaky Argonian
 * 21:47:35: Atvelonis: Aela
 * 21:47:39: CiviclyYours: so many people wut
 * 21:47:41: Atvelonis: Aela the Huntress
 * 21:47:43: Atvelonis: FA
 * 21:47:43: Bronkiin: Moot
 * 21:47:46: CiviclyYours: ah
 * 21:47:54: G0LD3NF1RE: Aela has already been, has it not?
 * 21:47:59: CiviclyYours: I'll be quiet and lurk. Continue~
 * 21:48:00: Atvelonis: No it's ga afaik
 * 21:48:03: Cheatcodechamp: She needs some clean up, but I was thinking its the best one there.
 * 21:48:20: Atvelonis: I think she has all non-quest dialogue
 * 21:48:22: G0LD3NF1RE: It looks pretty good
 * 21:48:28: Atvelonis: *complete
 * 21:48:39: Atvelonis: i can add that sometime
 * 21:48:40: Cheatcodechamp: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_Wiki:Featured_articles
 * 21:48:45: Cheatcodechamp: Past FA articles
 * 21:49:23: Atvelonis: Can someone nominate Aela and give a brief explanation as to why
 * 21:49:26: G0LD3NF1RE: I was thinking of Erandur
 * 21:49:30: Atvelonis: explain how it's a good article
 * 21:49:31: Cheatcodechamp: Ok, Ill nominate her after this, but we need to get some good articles nominated and work on the ones we have to assure they are the best we have.
 * 21:49:41: G0LD3NF1RE: Or Mjoll maybe
 * 21:49:44: Atvelonis: Erandur is good but needs some work
 * 21:49:57: Atvelonis: Was it?
 * 21:49:59: G0LD3NF1RE: Erandur and Mjoll are past FA
 * 21:49:59: Atvelonis: oh yeah
 * 21:50:01: Cheatcodechamp: August 2015
 * 21:50:03: The Rim of the Sky: Maybe we should do Orsinium instead
 * 21:50:10: Atvelonis: oh sup rim
 * 21:50:12: The Rim of the Sky: I think it's only fitting since the DLC is out
 * 21:50:13: The Rim of the Sky: Plus
 * 21:50:19: The Rim of the Sky: I'm working on expanding it even more
 * 21:50:26: Atvelonis: That's not GA yet though
 * 21:50:32: The Rim of the Sky: Lots of new info on its lore was released in part for the DLC
 * 21:50:42: G0LD3NF1RE: Done anytime soon?
 * 21:50:45: Atvelonis: Maybe for January?
 * 21:50:58: Cheatcodechamp: Then lets add that lore and get it nominated for GA
 * 21:51:03: Bronkiin: kk
 * 21:51:11: The Rim of the Sky: I was thinking we could do Nede for January
 * 21:51:15: Cheatcodechamp: Ok, so do we have other concerns about our featured content?
 * 21:51:17: The Rim of the Sky: It's good for the most part
 * 21:51:28: The Rim of the Sky: Just needs better wording for one section
 * 21:51:32: Atvelonis: That's not GA either
 * 21:51:35: Cheatcodechamp: It still has two redlinks.
 * 21:51:43: Atvelonis: we can work on it
 * 21:51:56: Atvelonis: also rim
 * 21:52:08: Atvelonis: do we have a page on the Redguard comic book
 * 21:52:13: G0LD3NF1RE: Nordic Empire is more ready than Nede is it not?
 * 21:52:29: The Rim of the Sky: Origins of Cyrus
 * 21:52:31: Cheatcodechamp: The Empire page should be nominated for GA
 * 21:52:34: The Rim of the Sky: Nope
 * 21:52:39: The Rim of the Sky: Not one yet
 * 21:52:49: Atvelonis: I think there's more to the title anyway
 * 21:53:01: Atvelonis: I have a pdf of it on my computer I can add something sometime
 * 21:53:39: Atvelonis: Is it copyrighted
 * 21:53:45: Atvelonis: ?
 * 21:53:48: Bronkiin: We should have a summary of the book and a link.
 * 21:53:55: Bronkiin: If possible.
 * 21:54:01: Atvelonis: Link sure
 * 21:54:10: Bronkiin: We don't need/necessarily want the actual text on a page here.
 * 21:54:34: Bronkiin: Same thing with LoS etc...
 * 21:54:48: Cheatcodechamp: Ok, so any other items for the moot to handle?
 * 21:55:03: Bronkiin: Um... don't think so.
 * 21:55:08: Atvelonis: For LoS I'd like it cause then I can Ctrl+f stuff but this is a comic book so that doesn't work
 * 21:55:10: The Rim of the Sky: The archived website was full images
 * 21:55:14: Atvelonis: abyway LoS is copyrighted
 * 21:55:18: Atvelonis: *anyway
 * 21:55:21: Bronkiin: Exactly.
 * 21:55:29: Cheatcodechamp: Ok, unless we want to handle some maintenance, I think we can close this weeks moot.
 * 21:55:39: The Rim of the Sky: http://web.archive.org/web/20041216095425/http://redguard.bethsoft.com/
 * 21:56:45: Cheatcodechamp: So, do we (y) close or (n) do some maintance?
 * 21:56:50: Bronkiin: (y)
 * 21:57:00: Bronkiin: But I don't mind either way too much.
 * 21:57:02: Atvelonis: I don't care either way works
 * 21:57:02: ~*LilithRayn*~: I've got nothing going on. lol
 * 21:57:11: RenzXVI: Maintenance.
 * 21:57:36: Bronkiin: 1-2-1 xD
 * 21:57:43: Bronkiin: How decisive...
 * 21:57:45: RenzXVI: Close the chat for maintenance. XD
 * 21:57:50: ~*LilithRayn*~: lol
 * 21:57:50: Cheatcodechamp: Ok, any area we want to work on? We have merges, splits, and deletion candidates we can comb
 * 21:58:05: Bronkiin: Deletion sounds fun.
 * 21:58:25: Bronkiin: Atv, how many pages did we add yesterday?
 * 21:58:35: Atvelonis: I dunno check newpages
 * 21:58:45: KINMUNE: Hello there, Ottoman Hold!
 * 21:58:46: Bronkiin: Link?
 * 21:58:58: Atvelonis: @CCC: before you delete anything be careful that there are no remaining links
 * 21:58:58: Ottoman Hold: Can I come into the moot midway through?
 * 21:59:01: Cheatcodechamp: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Category%3ADeletion_Candidates
 * 21:59:02: RenzXVI: Ottoman Hold, you somewhat made it!
 * 21:59:11: Cheatcodechamp: Of course
 * 21:59:18: Cheatcodechamp: How do we want to handle these?
 * 21:59:50: Atvelonis: Special:Newpages bron
 * 21:59:55: ~*LilithRayn*~: Hoever I am told to? lol
 * 22:00:07: Bronkiin: Thanks, Atv.
 * 22:00:12: Cheatcodechamp: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Ash_Pile
 * 22:00:15: Bronkiin: And we should delete the first one imo
 * 22:00:19: Cheatcodechamp: Lets talk about this one
 * 22:00:44: Cheatcodechamp: Agreed Bron, If you guys see one that you think should be deleted. link it.
 * 22:00:56: Ottoman Hold: On that, I am mixed on that
 * 22:00:58: Atvelonis: Ash pile... eh
 * 22:01:00: Cheatcodechamp: Do we really need an article about ash piles?
 * 22:01:11: Atvelonis: no but the info is slightly useful
 * 22:01:20: ~*LilithRayn*~: Doesn't it say in articles about what causes them, that they cause them?
 * 22:01:22: RenzXVI: lol
 * 22:01:24: Atvelonis: couls it be apread out onto the pages it links
 * 22:01:24: Ottoman Hold: I can see why it may be useful, but it is not writen that well
 * 22:01:34: Bronkiin: I don't think it's needed.
 * 22:01:42: Bronkiin: And it looks like 40 Atv...
 * 22:01:43: Atvelonis: Me neither but can we move the info
 * 22:01:44: Cheatcodechamp: Ok, do we delete it? Yes or no?
 * 22:01:46: Ottoman Hold: do we have a corpse page? I don't think so, but at the same time...
 * 22:01:48: ~*LilithRayn*~: I have to agree, that it's not needed.
 * 22:01:56: Atvelonis: 40 is our daily goal bron, so good
 * 22:01:58: Bronkiin: But it's difficult to count because I keep forgetting to add a summary xD
 * 22:02:21: Bronkiin: I know it's forty Atv.
 * 22:02:24: Atvelonis: just Ctrl+f created page it works with or without a summary
 * 22:02:42: Ottoman Hold: Let's focus on one topic
 * 22:02:50: Bronkiin: Yeh ik, but it's a mess anyway.
 * 22:03:06: Cheatcodechamp: Are we deleting the page?
 * 22:03:11: Atvelonis: So just mention that the spells cause ash piles
 * 22:03:12: Bronkiin: (+)
 * 22:03:13: ~*LilithRayn*~: (support)
 * 22:03:15: Atvelonis: and delete the page
 * 22:03:20: Atvelonis: (+)
 * 22:03:21: Ottoman Hold: Huh...
 * 22:03:33: Cheatcodechamp: Ok, good think it leads nowhere.
 * 22:03:41: Ottoman Hold: yeah I'll vote (support)
 * 22:03:46: Atvelonis: No links to it!
 * 22:03:49: Atvelonis: *?
 * 22:03:57: Atvelonis: Hey star
 * 22:04:03: Bronkiin: Will he stay...
 * 22:04:18: Ottoman Hold: Star! Did you come for the moot, connection issues, or other?
 * 22:04:21: KINMUNE: Hello there, Atvelonis!
 * 22:04:24: Starkiller131: I'm walking soo probably not.
 * 22:04:33: Bronkiin: This is hardly the Moot atm
 * 22:04:40: Bronkiin: This is just maintenance
 * 22:04:57: Cheatcodechamp: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Caravan_Crest
 * 22:05:02: Cheatcodechamp: Bronkin
 * 22:05:05: Atvelonis: Does anything link to ash pile
 * 22:05:08: Cheatcodechamp: Know anything about this location
 * 22:05:16: RenzXVI: You decided you really wanted to join chat while you were walking? :p
 * 22:05:34: Bronkiin: Hmm... No, don't know it.
 * 22:05:40: Bronkiin: Atv is better placed to check.
 * 22:05:48: Cheatcodechamp: Atve?
 * 22:05:58: Atvelonis: What no I'm not
 * 22:06:04: Atvelonis: im a hundred miles from my
 * 22:06:08: Atvelonis: comprer
 * 22:06:08: Bronkiin: You're EP character is a higher level.
 * 22:06:12: Atvelonis: computer
 * 22:06:29: Bronkiin: Assuming you had a computer you'd be better placed.
 * 22:06:31: Atvelonis: I can check in ehhh an hour or so maybe
 * 22:06:40: Cheatcodechamp: Ok, lets let it be then
 * 22:06:48: Cheatcodechamp: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Characters_in_Oblivion
 * 22:06:49: Bronkiin: Yeh, it looks a bit... you know.
 * 22:06:55: Cheatcodechamp: Do we want unused redirects?
 * 22:07:02: KINMUNE: Hello there, StayPuftMarshmellowMan!
 * 22:07:04: Cheatcodechamp: We have more then a few
 * 22:07:06: StayPuftMarshmellowMan: Hiiiii
 * 22:07:12: ~*LilithRayn*~: Hellooooo
 * 22:07:16: Ottoman Hold: hello this i the moot
 * 22:08:09: Atvelonis: Generally if they're unused we don't want them
 * 22:08:11: Bronkiin: I'd be inclined to ditch that, CCC.
 * 22:08:13: Atvelonis: *generally*
 * 22:08:21: Atvelonis: ditch it, yeah
 * 22:08:28: Cheatcodechamp: Ok, same for all of them?
 * 22:08:31: ~*LilithRayn*~: I am going to jump off of here, unless there is something else that is going to be discussed?
 * 22:08:41: Atvelonis: Depends on the redirect
 * 22:08:46: Atvelonis: for example
 * 22:09:02: Bronkiin: I don't think so, lil
 * 22:09:16: Bronkiin: Looks like maintenance till the end.
 * 22:09:17: Atvelonis: reddit uses that link system where if a link ends with ) it messes it up a lot
 * 22:09:18: ~*LilithRayn*~: Ok. Thank you. I will see y'all later! o. ^_^
 * 22:09:19: Cheatcodechamp: We are doing maintance, nothing big.
 * 22:09:21: Bronkiin: \o
 * 22:09:28: Ottoman Hold: bye lility
 * 22:09:32: Ottoman Hold: *lilith
 * 22:09:37: Atvelonis: so if nothing appears to link to a page that's missing that ) it's a redirect cause of reddit
 * 22:09:38: ~*LilithRayn*~: Oh...if anyone needs IDs done..leave them on my page. lol
 * 22:09:40: Cheatcodechamp: Infact, I say we close the moot and just hanbdle this off the clock
 * 22:09:54: Bronkiin: Yeh, I thought this was off the clock.
 * 22:10:09: Bronkiin: This should be an extra thing we do, but official.
 * 22:10:17: Cheatcodechamp: Ok, all in favor of ending the moot?
 * 22:10:17: Bronkiin: Like the Moots more practical cousin.
 * 22:10:21: Atvelonis: Ok
 * 22:10:22: Bronkiin: (+)
 * 22:10:34: Cheatcodechamp: We have been doing maintance during lackluster moots
 * 22:10:39: Ottoman Hold: sure (support)
 * 22:10:46: Bronkiin: I think it should become a regular thing, CCC.
 * 22:11:01: RenzXVI: Oh.
 * 22:11:09: Bronkiin: If the Moot is too insane, yeh we can not do it. But I do like these.
 * 22:11:13: Atvelonis: I like handling it now
 * 22:11:13: Ottoman Hold: The moot summary will be on the weekly update as usual, right?
 * 22:11:19: Atvelonis: that way we actually handle it
 * 22:11:22: Atvelonis: also
 * 22:11:28: Atvelonis: check for links before deleting