Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-41.250.195.189-20140424122702/@comment-25047024-20140424123821

41.250.195.189 wrote: Since 1E 700, no word had been heard of the Dwemer, with the notable exception of Yagrum Bagarn, who resided in the Corprusarium of Tel Fyr. Apparently, he was absent from the Mortal Plane at the time of the disappearance, visiting an Outer Realm, an alternate dimension. His three thousand years of exploration and five hundred years of investigation have yielded no leads on the presence of his people on Mundus or any other plane of existence currently known.

It is also known that Kagrenac devised a set of tools: Sunder, Keening and Wraithguard to manipulate the Heart of Lorkhan and instill divinity to his people and make them immortal, but the spell backfired and caused all Dwemer to vanish.

I have a feeling that Kagrenac (unknowingly) triggered CHIM when he tapped into the Heart of Lorkhan with his tools... And that CHIM attempt failed... And it is known that failure of CHIM, in a worse case scenario, can result in the user erasing themselves from existance, or "Zero Summing".

That means the Dwemer have been completely removed from existence, which explains why Yagrum Bagarn searched for them for centuries and never found them on any plane of existence.

The only thing that I didn't understand is Arniel Gane's disappearance? Has he caused a CHIM that made him disappear physically from Nirn and made him somehow immortal by binding his "shade" to the Dragonborn?

What are your thoughts? And feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on what I wrote above.

I don't think that you fully understand CHIM.

CHIM isn't a "thing" which you can hold in your hand or something like that, CHIM is a state of being (Royalty). CHIM can only be reached by understanding that the Aurbis is the Dream of the Godhead, and by having enough Willpower to maintain a personality. I doubt that Kagrenac knew that the Aurbis is a dream.

Kagrenac merged all Dwemer souls (except Yagrums and possibly some other Dwemer which were in the Outer Realms) into Anumidiums Brass Skin. When Anumidium was destroyed during the Warp in the West, it's skin was, naturally, also destroyed, which erased all Dwemer souls (except the souls of possible surviving Dwemer such as Yagrum).

We know that Kagrenac didn't fully succeed in making the Dwemer a god. Probably because he couldn't merge all Dwemer souls.

Arniel Gane basicly repeated what Kagrenac did, but on a much smaller scale. Instead of binding the souls of all Bretons to a gigantic robot, he bound his own soul to the nearest divine being, which happened to be the Last Dragonborn. Also, instead of using the Heart of a dead god (Lorkhan's Heart), he used a soul gem, and he also didn't have all of Kagrenacs tools. He only had Keening.