Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-72.74.78.209-20141019230536/@comment-17114085-20150113112947

Dovahkiin47800 wrote: 80.216.192.17 wrote: Dovahkiin47800 wrote: They can't be that be that powerful if I soul trapped Maven Black-Briar, enchanted my lucky dagger with her, and named it after her.

But more to the point... the reason everyone hates him is because not every ones a nord. Only AD supporters would hate Ulfric the true high king. Were you really Naïve enough to say that or is Skyrim your first TES?! I support the Empire because I spent the whole series SAVING IT! The Thalmor may take away public worship but you can still worship him in private. Elewen would tell you otherwise when you called me an AD supporter. In the beginning of Skyrim when Alduin attacks, imperials are saying "By Ysmir how do we kill this thing?" Now think for once, Ysmir=Talos. There you have it! The Empire hasn't given up on Talos and they never will Incorrect, the Thalmor haven't taken away just public worship. They have taken away all worship of Talos. If you worship privately at home and the Imperials or the Thalmor find out they will imprison or kidnap you, depending on who finds out. There is even a quest in Markarth in which the Thalmor asks you to find evidence that a Nord is worshiping Talos in his home and after you find his amulet they imprison him.

Ysmir isn't Talos. Ysmir is a Nordic God, the Old King Wulfharth (I believe that is what his name was). It is heavily implied that Wulfharth did become part of Talos alongside Tiber Septim and Zurin, but that isn't known to the people of Tamriel. They all think that Talos is just Tiber Septim and thus in their mind completely different from Ysmir.

Also saying things like "Shor's Bones, Kyne's Breath and Ysmir's Beard, By Ysmir, By Shor, etc." Is a Nord thing. Almost all Nords say that, it is just part of their vocabulary. Like people IRL saying. "By God, Sweet Jesus, Oh my god, Jesus Christ!, etc." It is just something we say, whether we believe in Christianity or not. So that doesn't in any way mean that they worship Ysmir, which most Nords don't by the way as they have switch from worshiping the Nordic Pantheon to worshiping the Divines (Be it Nine or Eight) since the 1st Era. Only a few like that hunter in the Rift still worship the Nordic Pantheon, he worships Kyne.