User talk:Timeoin/Archive 9

Elder Scrolls Wiki in 2011
Hey there! Wikia is trying out something new this year where we are trying to make a "yearbook" for the biggest wikis, and we want to know what big things happened this year at The Elder Scrolls Wiki! Can you check out this blog post and either give some details in the comments, or just write on my wall if it is easier. We're looking for fairly detailed information, such as what the community's favorite character/item/location/what they are looking forward to most for Skyrim is, things like that. If you have any questions, shoot me a message! Thanks so much! Soldierscuzzy (talk) 02:08, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Pets in Skyrim?
Hi, i'm new to the wiki i'm new to the Elder Scrolls series and Skyrim is going to be my first Elder Scrolls game anyway, i was wondering, it seems you know alot about Skyrim and i was wondering do you know if you can have a pet in Skyrim? like a dog at your house, sorry if this is a stupid question but i've searched everywhere and can't find information. Corey Poole (talk) 11:50, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

How to solve this?
Hey Timeoin,

I have been updating a lot recently on the Wikia, mostly everything and everyone in Riverwood, since I already have the game, but I have a problem now that I don't know how to solve.

In Riverwood there are two NPC's who run the Sleeping Giant Inn. They are called Orgnar and Delphine. But the problem is, that the page linked to Delhpine isen't the one I mean. So what I mean is, there are at least 2 NCP's in Skyrim called Delphine. How do I make a different page with the same name? Isen't it going to say it already exists?

Thanks for your time and help.

Greetings SoKoLoV

How To Solve This Part 2
No, I checked they are a both two different people. But I encountered the same problem. Not only are there 2 different Delhpine's (One a Blade member, the other wife of Orgnar owner of the Sleeping Giant Inn) but there are also two Sigrid's. (One from Oblivion and one who is the wife of Alvor, the blacksmith of Riverwood). So I also need another page for her. I tried making a new page, but it says the name already exists.

Thanks for the help by the way. I am new so I don't know how to do everything yet.

Radiant Quests
I'll jot everything down that I do, and I also think a big thing to do will be shop prices, so I could work on that. I live in San Diego, and we have off school Veteran's Day (I'm a junior in highschool), so I'll be able to get the information fairly quickly. I'll see you around! Redsoxusa09 (talk) 15:34, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

{C}Timeoin, I am trying to get the spell books, spells, and mage quests updated. Thanks for fixing the Sparks page. I will try to learn Wiki and how to make the pages better as I go along. I am new to updating a Wiki, but look forward to helping as much as I can. Best Wishe, Tom Tom.deaver (talk) 00:19, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks so much for the kind and warm welcome, Timeoin. I know I will get sucked into the game and the story so I will not be much good at updating quests, though I might edit them from time to time. However, I will keep a journal and update all the locations of Spell books and Dragon Shouts and update the mage quests. One question, can you put Spell Books (Skyrim) page under either spells or give it it's own subcategory? I do not know how you administrators will want to organize things, but I hope the Spell Books page does not get lost in the more general Items page. Perhaps put Spell Books (Skyrim) under both Spells and under Skill Books, if you can have two locations for the page? Anyway, thank you again for the warm welcom. Tom.deaver (talk) 00:39, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Hello Again
Hello there, could you delete, or at least edit, this article?

Can't fight them...join 'em
Hey sweetie.

I figured seeing how I'm now sharing you with the TESWiki and Skyrim I might as well help out.

You play; I type. I just don't know what's going on with my account. You're a WikiGod can you do something? I'm currently typing up Kolb & the Dragon.

60.241.45.250 09:59, November 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * I just signed out. Test message to test something. 60.241.45.250 10:31, November 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * If you can test, then so can I? That evil laugh is daunting. How many books have you found in Jorraskr? KeiratheScribe (talk) 11:35, November 11, 2011 (UTC)

Wikia achievements
Hey Timeoin. I was just wondering if you think it is a good idea to make the achievements on this wiki a little more Elder Scrolls :) I see we have a lot of "As insane as Timeoin" etc, and was thinking to Elder Scrollize the achievements to make it more fitting for the newcomers :-) Is it OK?

Bug Encountered Which Prevents Finishing Quest (PS3 Version)
Hey Timeoin,

It's me again, thanks for the help with the naming of the pages with the same name, I figured it out while trying some options but couldn't have done it without your help so thanks again.

But now I have a bigger problem. I play Skyrim on my PS3 and have encountered a bug which prevents me from finishing the quest at all. I have already added information about this on this page on the Wikia

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Bugs_%28Skyrim%29

But should I make the quest on the Wika itself and add "Bugs" to the bottom of the page? And you wouldn't know a way to tell Bethesda of this bug by the way? I live in Belgium so I can't use the support line described in the manual which came with te game.

Thanks

SoKoLoV

A question great Timeoin, why is the Skyrim countdown still going?

And Another Question
Sorry if I post to much on your profile but I don't know who else I can ask this too.

I have bought a house in Markarth (City) and have other usefull information about the city and it's people (Jarl for example). But here on the Wikia, I can't find the page for the city. The only think that exists is "Markarth Side" but this isen't the city, does this mean the city doens't exists yet or am I wrong and is the correct page?

Blog Problem
I am probably making you crazy with all my messages, sorry for that. But I have another problem. {C I made this blog, but it doesn't appear under "Blogs" when I choose that on my profile.

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:SoKoLoV/Floating_Horse_In_Skyrim

Furthermore I wanted it to appear as News, so people could read and watch it and then leave a reply, but when I add those categories (News, Site News, Blog Posts) it doesn't change anything. So when I click "Recent News" the topic is not there.

Sorry again to keep bothering you with all my problems. I'll try to figure it out myself the next time.

Thanks again.

IRC
IRC please Elchzard  (Talking is fun.) 23:24, November 12, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not a very good editor, so i thought i would let you know it's possible to become a Werewolf in Skyrim, when you do enough quests for the compansions guild, they will ask you if you would like to become a Werewolf.

I have no idea if you already knew this but i thought i would inform you. Corey Poole (talk) 02:54, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

Where can i download the 1.1 patch for skyrim?

Alphabetical TOC
If I place it here, maybe another admin/editor could also help.

Do we have a current template for alphabetical table of contents. Otherwise I can just do it manually with the wiki code I found for it... for the Dragon language page.

KeiratheScribe using Timeoin's computer.

Response to 'Spoiler Warning: Lore Issues With Skyrim'
Have you read "The Infernal City" and "Lord of Souls" yet? It is the Aldmeri Dominion, the Thalmor who attacked the Imperial City and took over. Thalmor influence was already getting stronger in the early years of the Fourth Era. And they banned worship of Talos not because he was the first mortal to ascend to godhood, but as vengeance because Talos as Tiber Septim drove out the Aldmeri when he founded the Septim Empire.

- Crusader (Crusader's Mailbag) 15:39, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

So I read the book I think you were refering to, 'The Talos Mistake', and I believe it's just Thalmor propaganda written by Imperials, an attempt at encouraging the acceptance on the ban of the worship of Talos. There's always a difference between the actual, blatant truth and the 'official' truth, and the fact that Arkay was a mortal god as well is the flaw in their reasoning and another reason why people are pissed off at the ban, perhaps BethSoft wrote that deliberately. But perhaps it's the fact that there are no historical sources that can confirm Arkay was once mortal, and the only two sources there are (the Monomyth, which says that Arkay was one of the first spirits to form after the beginning of time, and Ark'ay the God of Birth and Death, states that Arkay was mortal) contradict one another, whereas Tiber Septim, Zurin Arctus and Ysmir Wulfharth DID exist and it can be confirmed through historical sources in TES lore.

- Crusader (Crusader's Mailbag) 12:34, November 14, 2011 (UTC)

Troll pages and wikia hilites
Please remove this page as it was a troll page (History) : http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Luis_blackman_the_spog. Also i would recommend you to add hilites as seen here : http://help.wikia.com/wiki/Draft:Highlight 02:12, November 15, 2011 (UTC)

Delete Whiterun (disambiguation)
I was wondering if you could please delete the Wwhiterun page. It is a diambiguation page but should not be, as Whiterun (CIty) should clearly just be "WHiterun". Wwhiterun Hold can remain Whiterun hold but I would appreciate it if you could please delete this page.

Thank You,

FreightFright (talk) 02:22, November 15, 2011 (UTC)FreightFright

Requests for deletion
i've been playing skyrim for a bit now and i've noticed there are alot of character pages that are misspelled but there is another page with it spelled correctly, so basically im just asking how do you request pages for deletion or is it possible that you delete them?

Chargersphinx (talk) 02:29, November 15, 2011 (UTC)

Use  Remove the <> to request a page to be deleted 02:31, November 15, 2011 (UTC)

Vandals
Hey there! No problem. It makes me so angry to see people making a mess of our work. I understand it must be tough here. This is a very popular series with tons of editors working on pages daily. I don't mind keeping an eye open for things that shouldn't be here :) --Deyvid Petteys 11:57, November 15, 2011 (UTC)

Categories
Hey, I mostly like to go around the site and fix grammar/spelling/general messiness.

One of my biggest issues is that there are too many categories. Can we maybe get rid of the ones resembling "Quests in Morrowind" and instead keep the pattern of ones resembling "Morrowind: Quests"?

I feel it would make the wikia much smoother.

Vandals
Could you link me to all the staff here? I need to tell people where vandals pop up and don't know where to put it : http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/173.180.202.48 23:57, November 15, 2011 (UTC)

Hello
May I ask how this wiki have made a PlayQuiz feature? Thank you. Mckrongs 02:19, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

Regarding Wiki-navigation
Hi, I I have created a forum post that may need your input, regarding the Wiki-navigation of this Wiki. TC -- 04:48, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

Video embedding
Hey! My name is Joni Niva, and I make video tutorials and other game videos in Youtube. Been doing game tutorials since late 2008, started with Fallout 3 back then. {C}I was wondering if its ok for me to embedd Skyrim video tutorials on this wiki? They would be my own videos Im making for Skyrim. I've done the same thing with Fallout wiki, The Vault, few years back. Hundreds of my videos were used as official guides and tutorials there, until the admins decided that they dont like video embeddings on that wiki. The reason was left a bit open, but I guess it had something to do with them saying its causing the page load slower. {C Anyway, it would be great, and it would mean a lot for me to provide video tutorials for this wiki, since most users find them very helpful. Im doing the videos anyway, no matter what, so it would be very easy for me just to embedd them here when uploaded. {C Here is my channel link - Orcidea {C I embedded my first Skyrim tutorial for the Frost Breath thu'um in the page for it - Frost Breath. Please see if you find it disturbing, or unrelated for this wiki to have videos embedded. Or maybe just a link to the video, perhaps? Either way, Im waiting for your reply, and will act accordingly.

With best regards, {C}Joni - CryonBrion (Talk) 12:12, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

Whats thew easiest way to kill a snow bear in Skyrim? Help me please.

I will absolutely help as much as I can to update and organize the categories, and I look forward to when they have all been converted.

I noticed Bestiary is replaced with just Creatures, so I deleted Bestiary from Timeoin/Categories

Also, to clarify, the format of "(Name of game): (Name of category)" is only to distinguish between different games. Whereas "(Name of category) in (Name of place)" is simply to distinguish different areas.

I'm assuming you wish to keep that distinguishment between things by games and things by place, and do not plan on converting categories such as "Cities in Cyrodiil" to "Cyrodiil: Cities".

I'd also like to apologize for not adding a headline or signing with four tildes on the last two posts.

I will sign this one to show the end of my ranting. Corybergeron (talk) 23:31, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

{C}Hello, Timeoin, (or any others that might read this)

I'm new here, and pretty green to the whole wiki thing, but I thought that it would be interesting so I'll give it a go. As I don't want to make this extremely formal, here's my inquiry... I made a minor edit on some information I thought was worth noting in the 'Notable Loot' subsection of the Ragged Flagon article - the last two bullet marks about arrows and invisibility potions. I was just wondering if that kind of edit would be acceptable/worth noting by the wiki's terms, or your own. Also, I would appreciate any constructive critisim if you feel thats suited here.

Thanks in advance,

TheSlashhappy (talk) 04:10, November 17, 2011 (UTC)TheSlashhappyTheSlashhappy (talk) 04:10, November 17, 2011 (UTC)

Making articles
I am trying to make an article for the smithing book The Last Scabbard of Akrash  and I want to make sure I have the formatting correct. This is my first time making a page so I am using my Sandbox before I actually make the page. Would you take a look and see if I am doing this correctly? GrandMoffVixen (talk) 05:46, November 17, 2011 (UTC)

Visual Editor
quick question. any idea why my visual editor will not work any more? i have to disable it even to post this, just wondering if you all changed something.

Visual Editor
quick question. any idea why my visual editor will not work any more? i have to disable it even to post this, just wondering if you all changed something. Poppaberry (talk) 20:05, November 17, 2011 (UTC)

It is all such a mess and is so exciting to work on! I am busy tonight, but starting tomorrow, I am diving head-first into this site and cleaning up all that I see! I'd also like to compliment you and the other admins on all the hard work you have already done in keeping it all together, it's a beautiful site Corybergeron (talk) 21:15, November 17, 2011 (UTC)

Ancient Nord Weapons
While trying to edit the Anicent nord weapons page. i was unable to do anything, nothing was on the screen. and i screwed the page up big time. i dont know how to &amp; am unable to fix it Xxfallout turkeyxx (talk) 23:44, November 17, 2011 (UTC) {C &lt;p /&gt;

{C PLease help me!!! i can only type in the headline box. when editing and i screwed up the Acient Nord Weapons page. i need someone to fix it and HELP ME Xxfallout turkeyxx (talk) 00:01, November 18, 2011 (UTC)




 * I have NFI what the heck if happening with that. Is this still happening? Sorry, I have been away at my fiance's graduation, only just got back home. If it is - meet me on IRC? Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•See current projects 09:47, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

Vandals
Hey again... I know how you "love" vandals, so here is an IP address of one: 75.67.96.32. I reverted his, what looked to be Porn links (had they worked) on the Glass Weapons page. User:BryanWPeterson, View my work 00:49, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

Categories
How should we be categorizing Skyrim pages? I've noticed editors and admins doing contradictory categorizing. I understood that categories like Category:Skyrim and Category:Locations should be abandoned in favor of categories like Category:Skyrim: Locations. Is that correct? Also, there seems to be some disparity between how character races should be categorized. For instance, I've seen Skyrim pages with Category:Nords and Category:Skyrim: Nords. Which is correct? I don't want to edit pages hundreds of times trying to keep up with everyone. Any help would be appreciated! :D --— Radical D  (bother \   stalk)  10:06, November 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * Haha. Sorry about the name. At my other wiki, that's what everyone knows me as. Plus, I changed the preferences to include a custom signature, which this wiki didn't have. In short, I was tired of typing out everything out by hand so I transferred the sig. Anyway, I agree with you on using multiple categories. What if someone needs to find a quest but they don't remember which game it was from? That's how we categorize at my wiki, at any rate. One general category, one game- specific category, and one game category, then whatever random significant categories. My only concern was: people were deleting categories like Category:Locations or Category:Skyrim and Category:Locations from pages. And others were adding the categories back on. Just wanted to set everything straight. --— Radical D  (bother \   stalk)  10:41, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

There was one last thing. I've been cleaning up Magic articles for Skyrim, especially Spells, and I wanted to know which categories those pages should have. At first, I was adding Category:Conjuration spells for example, but I saw that the one for Alteraion was deleted. So what category should be use? I'm thinking it's probably the Conjuration, Destruction, etc. categories, but I'm not sure. --— Radical D  (bother \   stalk)  11:18, November 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * I agree with the Telekinesis. I'll start the Skyrim article here in a minute. I planned on doing it yesterday, but got distracted. At any rate, the category was Category:Alteration spells, but it seems tedious to have Category:Alteration and one for Alteration spells. It was be much simpler to have:


 * Category:Alteration
 * Category:Spells
 * Category:Skyrim: Spells

Or something of that nature... {C Edit: Now that I think of it, we might actually need to split each school of magic between games, so as not be confused with Oblivion. Like you said. But I suppose it's not a tremendously huge deal. --— Radical D  (bother \   stalk)  11:30, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

Hi i have a question about the Argonians. do they worship any deadra lord?

Fallout777 (talk) 23:34, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

I want to add a location to a category list, but I see a create page that opens up a blank text box. Its the Dwemer Ruins page - and I'm confused how to add locations I've found to it.

Alchemy Effects, where should they go?
I see you removed Category:Skyrim: Alchemy Effects. Should we make a single Alchemy Effects page and link each effect name to that page#section? The problem is that every Ingredients (Skyrim) page and the Potions (Skyrim) and Alchemy (Skyrim) pages link to each effect individually by name. There is also a lot of overlap with previous games' spells (and they don't act the same). We could go through every link to an effect and link to a collected Alchemy Effects page, or redirect/disambiguate when you arrive at an Alchemy Effects page. The Potions (Skyrim) page could describe these effects, but there are many more potions than can be made with Alchemy, so that page will eventually be the wrong place to send people. Martinemde (talk) 23:49, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

I'm trying to add a location to a category list, but all I see is a "Create" button, and when I click on it, it brings up a blank text box instead, so I'm pretty confused as to what I should do... AndurilWielder (talk) 23:52, November 18, 2011 (UTC)AndurilWielder

troll
this guy keeps uploading questionable pictures http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/index.php?title=User:Bon3rchamp&s=wldiff&diff=0&oldid=206774

can you do something about this? Zach9054 (talk) 09:54, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

honestly this is the worst wiki i have ever been to you guys need to put more time and effort on your pages, plus you need much more information, ever seen the fallout wiki? that is the best wiki ever try what they do! Primmslimshady (talk) 20:29, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

found more vandalism. http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Bow_of_the_Dragon Zach9054 (talk) 19:23, November 20, 2011 (UTC)

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Unbound_Dremora roll back history to see the vandaism Zach9054 (talk) 05:31, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

Ban me if you hate notch and/or minecraft
Hey, I need to ask you something. Do you remember when Notch,the creator of Minecraft, had an "issue" with Bethesda? Ban me if you hate minecraft, okay. Minecraft is my 2nd favorite game, so just ban me from this wiki if you hate minecraft and/or Notch.

"Woodchopping"
Tried to correct the name of the page Woodchopping Block to "Wood Chopping Block". It claimed that page already exists, and sure enough, it does - but it doesn't come up in a search. What gives? Tungstic (talk) 04:00, November 20, 2011 (UTC)

Go on the chat please
I've been calling your name for awhile now. I know your busy but this is the only way to get your attention...

Blood Reaper (talk) 06:21, November 20, 2011 (UTC)

Wow!
That's all I can say: wow! It's kind of scary seeing my name up there, but it's definitely an honor. Guess all my hard work paid off, if Wikia recognizes me as a top editor! Honestly, I enjoy making the Elder Scrolls Wiki one modicum awesome-er with each edit. It's really the content and games that makes working here fun. --— Radical D  (bother \   stalk)  09:11, November 20, 2011 (UTC)

Assist the People of Hjaalmarch Deletion
Had to resort to Google to solve Skyrim: Hjaalmarch: Morthal: NPCs: Jarl Idgrod Ravencrone: Quests: Assist the People of Hjaalmarch instead of this wika. With the number of questions found via Google from people stuck at 2/3 it is interesting that this source of information would be deleted in favor of vague generalities and no specific details. As an admin, it is your choice to decide where others new to the game and radiant quest system gain there information.

Problem with identically named pages
{C}Good morning (my time zone)... There is a problem which may require an admin to fix on the quest "The White Phial". Apparently, Deyvid Petteys and I have been more or less simultaneously editing the quest and the quest giver pages. Now, the Quest page is mixed up with the Location page for the shop with the same name. Maybe Deyvid will fix it, but I'm going to leave it alone at this point! It may need "disambiguation" or whatever that Wiki term is...

Rshel (talk) 16:01, November 20, 2011 (UTC)RShel

{C Hi I'm playing skyrim for the first time but I'm having trouble finding things these wiki pages have always been helpful but this one not really there are many pages of information but a lot of its shoddy and incomplete i went to one page all it had was "hi". I used the vault for help on New Vegas their was a perfect walk through about two days after it came out. so whats the problem here. I try not to ridicule those i need help from, but this is outrageous.

random72.9.8.138 18:37, November 20, 2011 (UTC)person72.9.8.138 18:37, November 20, 2011 (UTC)

Don't delete potions tables from ingredients!
The ingredient pages need these potion lists. All the massive lists of potions are unhelpful when you're actually playing the game. When you have an ingredient and you want to find the 3rd "unknown" and combine it with something to make it known, you need that table. All others are unhelpful for this and this is the main use of the ingredient page. They're especially helpful when you need to figure out what combines most efficiently. I will revert potion table removals since this was the main contribution my wife and I have made to this wiki. It's the main thing I've used this wiki for. I'm very unhappy with the outright removal of our days of hard work without even a discussion. Martinemde (talk) 01:29, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

Ingredients Question
Hi there -Ok, editing my response - after reading Martin's and your exchanges, I think I understand. 8) I think it's more a quick reference thing for the ingredient and what it can be mixed with to achieve an effect. I found it useful, but I understand your concern about what happens when things change. All they have to do is add one ingredient to the game and then we'll have numerous pages that will have to be updated.

I'm not sure how to go about it better other than putting all the ingredients on the effects pages, but then we've still got the same problem of 'what if', just on a smaller scope.

~ Trippet (Talk) 01:54, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

So I think the "what if this change" part is inevitable. There's a lot of complexity in this game related to ingredients and potions. The individual ingredients pages should be the canonical source for info. The whole system would have to change if they add more effects to old ingredients or allow new ingredients that combine with old ones in new ways.

My solution: remove all the duplicated complexity from Potions and Alchemy. These were just data dump used to create the better pages (each ingredient). The only thing we need now, and I'll probably end up adding, is a page for each effect that links back to the ingredients used to cause the effect. Then alchem just refernces the "Alchemy Effects" page and the "Ingredients" page and you go there to cross-reference what you'd like to make. Those pages list only the Effects and Ingredients respectively, without all the extra mess of data. The potions page is the ugliest of all of these since there's so many potions. I expect an Alchemy Effects page would be more useful, but I think you'll still need a list of potions somewhere. Potions doesn't need the crazy list of ingredients I put there before we had the individual pages done, but we can't remove it until links to alchemy effects produce a list of ingredients. Martinemde (talk) 02:17, November 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'll reply here to this one, so that you both can see my reply: I think this ^^ is a very good idea. Apologies to both of you if you thought I meant otherwise. I think an Alchemy Ingredients page (whether named that, or individual for each of the actual alchemy ingredients, or both) is the way to go. A list of 20-30 or so pages is maintainable, as only small changes would be needed later when ingredients are added. A list of 200-300 isnt :) Futhermore, I also agree that it should probably be removed from the Potions and Alchemy pages too, once that list is completed. So yeah - sorry if I caused any hassles for anyone. Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•See current projects 02:24, November 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * You guys seem to have a plan so I'll just keep adding pretty pictures. ;) Let me know if you need my help with anything! We do have this page: Ingredients_(Skyrim) and I'm sure you've seen it. For now I think the current set up is useful, but I see how it could be problematic down the road. There are some pages already for the effects, so it would be a matter of completing the addition of the effect pages, then linking back.
 * ~ Trippet (Talk) 02:42, November 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, I think its more Martinemde's "baby" than mine :) I just got worried because I think more "down the road" than current. (Which is kind of what I'm supposed to do here, as the admin, I think?) Anyways - yeah. I'm going to keep trying to madly add everything about the game :) For now, I'm going to let martin do what he wants with it, because, well, he seems to be invested a lot into it, whereas Im looking at the big picture of Wiki pages. Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•See current projects 02:53, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

Upgrading.
Hey! Just got two questions here.

So i have the Nightingale armor and the Mehrun razor, which are both currently at (Flawless) But i want to upgrade them to Legendary, are they considered Daedric Or Dragon? I don't want to was a Skill perk haha.. Same thing with the Ghose blade. Can't seem to upgreade it past Flawless.
 * It's Daedric. You could also save and try it out, then load if it doesn't work, for any other items! Super Giraffe  12:13, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

{C Would you happen to be the same Timeoin from eRepublik?

Hey Time.. It's actually TheMountainMen if you remember me. I won Party President of the ACP shortly before I quit/resigned. Uhm, how're you?

16 000 Edit And Nr. 1 On Wikia Gaming
Congratz on your 16 000 edit and nr.1 ;) ... not much more to say than that :P other than it must have been very hard to do so many edits and doing so much for TESWiki... me (a normal TES player that likes info about TES) and many others really appreciate what you have done here. :D

G0LD3NF1RE Questions Goes Here 18:08, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

Hey.. You should get on IRC! :)

SgtDerekFrostW (talk) 11:49, November 22, 2011 (UTC) I WAS WONDERIN IF YOU CAN PROMOTE MY ACCOUNT TO ADIM PLEASE

Hello I discovered two articles about the same NPC. I am talking about Dravynea and Dravynea the Stoneweaver. The correct name of the NPC is Dravynea the Stoneweaver so I would suggest the deletion of the first article, Dravynea.


 * Caught it as a redirect. Mbjones90 (talk) 16:00, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

How have you been? :D

SkyrimJarred (talk) 21:29, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

Deletion
Hi, I have a request to delete the Wikia page Arch-mage Robe (http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Arch-Mage_Robe). I do so because at first I went to the armor section and saw that this item had no link to a detailed page. I had searched the wiki in case one had been made, but found nothing, so I started an outline while I was in school. The next day I found a page with a different name but essentially the same thing, but with all the information i had included, and more, so it would better if we used that person's rather than the one I started. Thank you for taking time to read this. Thesystem67 (talk) 21:54, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

Question about edits
Hello Timeoin. After reading through the main page on this wiki, I became aware of a rule stating "Not to make any unnecessary edits to gain badges/achievment points". By unnecessary, do you mean simple things such as spelling & grammar corrections?

Liam12548 (talk) 00:55, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Add a few enhancements?
Hey, I am an Administrator over at the Dead Island Wiki and i have added a lot of fun tools, templates, and javascript enhancements. I am interested in adding a few of them to this wiki. I started adding my version of an overlay template I used on the dead island wiki (an example can be seen here).

Now, i could add that without any help from you; but i want to take that template to the next level with something I added to my wiki not too long ago. I added balloon popups to the dead island wiki. Take a look at it and see if it is something you feel this wiki could use. I would love to create a version of my overlay template that uses it (am am a programmer/nerd and I find the idea of writing code exciting....). It is up to you, but i found that it is very useful on the dead island wiki.

One last thing, would it be possible for you to update your top menus to the extended wiki version? I find it impossibly difficult to navigate this wiki and it is terribly incontinent to have to go to the front page to navigate anywhere, and i am willing to bet I am not the only one who thinks so.

01:44, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Another one to Ban
User: SuitedGurrila somehow managed to change the primary page, The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim page.

Final outcome for video embeddings?
Hey! I found out that in this wiki video embedding is not allowed in the article page. While in many cases this is understandable, due to a video quality problems (be that production value or simply bad image quality), my question follows: if there is a high quality video available, that illustrates the topic clearly with high production value, why is not embedding such video allowed, in general? I have a feeling there must be some technical limitation that Im not aware of for these pages about this issue, since that would be the only logical explanation for it. Thousands of people do prefer having a visual tutorial on the matter, since a plain text can explain only so much. And after all, video tutorials for games are hugely popular in Youtube nowadays, as one could understand by the fact that there are huge companies build on making only gaming videos (like Machinima.com). Consequently, as a Machinima Premium Director in Youtube, my understanding doesnt extend to this topic of NOT allowing video embedding, and I truly wish that someone, with the extended knowledge, could explain to me: why video embedding in wiki pages is still such a taboo? I would very much like to understand why wiki admins and bureaucrats see video embedding as an enemy, and not as a great content addition for any page, that would serve all users more comprehensively. Why not let these 2 things, text and visual illustration, complete each other?

This same problem went off in Fallout wiki as well, few years ago, and it was never comprehensively conversed on with the people involved. I hope you could answer my question, so I could stop pondering about this matter. If these wiki pages cant have video embeddings, fine, no problem, but it'll make me and thousands of users sad. What can you do..

I apologize if my presentation here comes somewhat, well, passionate and therefore maybe little aggressive. Video making is my passion, and I hope you understand my need for this information. My intentions are only good, hopefully you can see that =) CryonBrion (Talk) 07:31, November 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * I shall reply here so that others can see this. Okay, I have spoken to one of the Staff members at Wikia. According to them, we are allowed to post links to the walkthroughs. Im seeking clarification on whether or not it breaches the "Fair Use" if we have them posted here or not (I dont think it does, but I also dont want Wikia to get sued either :D) I know your intentions are good! :) Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•Skyrim To-Do List 08:37, November 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your reply! That sounds great!


 * The general "fair use" policy I understand (you'd be amazed how strict policies Machinima has with everything, making sure not to get in any trouble), but since I own all the rights of all my own videos, and Im the only admin of my channel, I can permit this wiki to use my videos freely. Videos of others, well, I guess if some video is found to be serving some article very well and its wanted on that page, it requires a permission from the video maker in Youtube. And about sues for using an embedded videos from Youtube, I wouldnt be worried about that. Every video maker can set the settings of his/her each video in Youtube as they want, and there is an option to select if the video can be embedded at other sites, out of Youtube. So if you embedd a video here, and it allows to view it as an embedding, its all good to go.


 * As for the IDing (is that even a word?) person for the legit video maker, it wont require other than a permission via the related Youtube channel. But of course, therein lies a possible problem: if the embedded video contains copyrighted material that is not allowed in the source platform, Youtube, I would not recommend using such video here either. As an example, if the video has some music track, lets say Limp Bizkit's song, playing, its against the copyright policies of Youtube (without a written permission for that specific video/channel from the copyright holder of that song). In gaming videos, any and all music owned by the publisher of that game is allowed, considered as "fair use". So I can make a Skyrim video with Fallout 3 music playing on the background, since Bethesda Softworks owns all the rights for both, Skyrim and Fallout series.


 * If ever required or needed, Im available as a "consultant" in these matters. Im more that happy to help to improve this wiki, when ever I can, how ever I can. If you have any questions about the use of Youtube videos, or other Youtube related issues, you can count on me to pursuit the answer. As a Machinima Premium Director (=partner) in Youtube, I have very good connections to people who are running the world's biggest Youtube network. If I cant answer some question myself, I can always ask people who will know, or they will contact Youtube admins directly.


 * I truly hope we get all things straight in this matter, so this wiki could benefit from having video tutorials on the articles. Im sure that would not only make this wiki more professional, but would only benefit everyone involved: this wiki would get more visitors, the video maker would get more views, and the users would get all the possible information related to the topic. Thats a true win-win =)
 * Hope to hear some good news from you soon!! CryonBrion (Talk) 06:53, November 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * The only other possible problem with is was if Bethesda decide we cannot host them here (which is the part that I am awaiting a response from WIkia about. If they say we can embed them, then we shall, because as you said, they are very very beneficial to everyone). However, if they say we cant, the most we can do is to link to them (which is almost as helpful, if they link to them anyway :D) As you said: its win-win :) Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•Skyrim To-Do List 07:30, November 24, 2011 (UTC)

quest problem
Hey,

I got Skyrim a few days ago and I have encountered a problem when trying to do the 'blood on the ice' quest.

Before I wanted to start the quest I went into the house you can buy in Windhelm (via cheats) and stole some stuff.

I wanted to then do the quest but it never showed up.

Would you know how to fix this by any chance?

Thanks

~SkullDean~

'Blood on the ice' quest not working
Hey,

I got Skyrim a few days ago and I have encountered a problem when trying to do the 'blood on the ice' quest.

Before I wanted to start the quest I went into the house you can buy in Windhelm (via cheats) and stole some stuff.

I wanted to then do the quest but it never showed up.

Would you know how to fix this by any chance?

Thanks

~SkullDean~


 * Hey! I havent finished that quest myself just yet. But I know that theres a lot of folks in the IRC that have. :) Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•Skyrim To-Do List 13:32, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Category Problem
Hey Timeoin, it's been a while since I posted here and I am back with another problem I hope you can help me with.

I made a page about the permanent abilities in skyrim (not perks), when I was done I added categories (Skyrim, Skyrim Abilities, Abilities..) but when I go to "TES V Skyrim (menu)" > "Pages about the game" > and look in categories, even the next 200 categories, I can't seem to find the page I made. Do you know what I did wrong? Here is my link to the page I made:

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Skyrim:_Abilities

Thanks for the help.

Grtz SoKoLoV

SgtDerekFrostW (talk) 14:08, November 23, 2011 (UTC) i would like to be admin please

Re Category Problem
So I have to make the category myself and when that's done add "Skyrim: categories" as a category to that page...if I am correct lolz.

Only one problem, I know how to make a page, but how do I create a category? SoKoLoV (talk) 14:17, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Grey-Mane or Gray-Mane?
Recently, it seems users tend to use both interchangeably, whereas I think it's Grey-Mane, although I can't rename Avulstein's page yet because of some error or administrator permission, even though I just changed Thorald's. So, any ideas? Thanks. Justinius1 (talk) 19:44, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Fail, that's what I get for not playing for few days. Thanks for the info there. Should I then change all the Gray-Mane pages that pretty much all use Grey in their names or should I let them be? Justinius1 (talk) 15:11, November 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * No. Gray-Mane is the proper name. Greymane is the incorrect one :) Yep - if you see them listed as Grey-Mane, change them over :D And no, dont think you've failed - its because of the english language using a confusing mix of American and British English Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•Skyrim To-Do List 15:36, November 24, 2011 (UTC)

Skyrim vs. Fallout 3 Blog
Can you please make sure to keep this in the News section? I know that normally you guys only go for Skyrim news, but this is something that we are just doing to try to get some discussion going. It'd be greatly appreciated. - Wagnike2 (talk) 20:38, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Easter eggs
I think you meant to revert the edits on the talk page, because now the talk page and the main space article for Easter Eggs (Skyrim) are the same information. --— Radical D  (bother \   stalk)  02:54, November 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, I was just going to undo it, but someone else just edited it, so I'll have to go back through and copy/paste. --— Radical D  (bother \   stalk)  02:58, November 24, 2011 (UTC)

Just to Say Hi
Hi Timeoin,

Just thought I'd send you a line and let you know that I exist. If you have any comments, suggestions, projects (or even encouragement!) for me, please don't hesitate to write to me (ekul.ylnam is my gmail address if you want to contact me that way).

I've done a ton of things on the wiki (listing them here would take unnecessary space) over the last couple of days at (very nearly) breakneck pace, but it's been fun. What I have done may look like a lot (or alternatively, pathetic), but I'll probably become a somewhat tamer contributor when I find a job.

What do you think of my contributions? I'd like to know if any of them are unwanted, because then I can try to avoid doing the same thing again.

Thanks,

-ekulylnam. (talk) 04:27, November 24, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, sorry about that. I will use SkyrimLocations Template. I didn't see a Template for Skyrim Locations on the task List so I just made a quick one to use, but go ahead and move/merge it. KLJF22

Menu bar
I wasn't at home at the time I reverted it, and the fact that I was on a terrible and very slow computer, it made me only able to revert it. I thought it was missing the most important topics, as I wrote when reverting it; "Admins" "Policies and Guidelines" etc. There was even a discussion between Rpeh and SuperGiraffe, in which Rpeh complained about UESP images being uploaded to this Wiki, and SuperGiraffe was unable to find the Policies and Guidelines (because they weren't included on the new "menu bar".

SgtDerekFrostW (talk) 09:34, November 24, 2011 (UTC) look, i know you dont know me and your not sure about promoting my account to admin but my point is that i think this wiki is not secure and it needs every admin it can get. i atleast did 200 edits and got 1,090 achievements.

Delete?
Hey I accidentally made a page and sent it up as a canadite for deletion but i was wondering if you could just delete it asap since it was a mistake. The page is Giraud Germane. Thanks. ---Zombie says BLARG 21:15, November 24, 2011 (UTC)

RE: Enhancements
To add the popups, just add the following to the wiki's common.js // Add Popup Script importScriptPage('User:Jgjake2/js/ElderScrolls/Popups.js', 'deadisland'); I kept the script at the dead island wiki so i can edit it, but keep it locked. Once added, I will work on implementing it in the new overlay template. Additionally, you may want to look at the popup's documentation page; you can do a lot of cool things with it.

Also, do you need any help with the menus? I designed the ones over at the dead island wiki. I even created a few scripts that allow me to edit the items on the "on this wiki" tab (which is uneditable normally). And i can add more tabs beyond the default limit of 5. AND I can make the menus change depending the content of the pages. 08:11, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

SgtDerekFrostW (talk) 13:26, November 25, 2011 (UTC) am i now admin yh

Followup: Template and Javascript Finished and Ready To Go
I am nearly finished with the overlay template I told you about. here are some picture of what it looks like when the script is installed:

Examples can be found here: Template:Overlay/doc, Template:Cliffside_Retreat_Map, Template:Popup/doc

For these things to be used on the wiki, all you have to do is follow the directions here.

Right now I have limited the map to 10 popups, but once I have finished the finite details, I can open it up to 50. But standard popups can be used on any page without bounds.

All I have left to work on is getting the ajax popups to look better, and maybe I will add a few other features, but it is ready to be added anytime.

18:12, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

Videos
You posted on my talk page regarding videos. I do not have any videos that I have uploaded at this time on this wiki.

I cleaned up some code on the Darkness Returns page but that is about it. They were there long before I edited the page. If you want me to remove them I can do so. GrandMoffVixen (talk) 18:18, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

How to nominate a page for deletion.
I am looking to learn how to nominate a page for deletion. This page in particular. Any help is appreciated. GrandMoffVixen (talk) 23:21, November 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * I've deleted the article. For future reference, add delete to the top of an article to mark it for deletion. Elchzard  (Talking is fun.) 23:29, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

User: Anthony Qiu
I know I have been buggin you a lot, but there is a user, Anthony_Qiu, who keeps adding videos to pages. I just undid the video spree they went on and left yet another message about videos on their talk page. Just bringing this to your attention. GrandMoffVixen (talk) 01:11, November 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * I just cleaned up after this user again. They will not stop adding the videos to the pages I keep removing them from. Maybe some additional action is needed? GrandMoffVixen (talk) 03:59, November 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * Indeed! Zluchs beat me too it, however, and banned him for a week. Hopefully during this time he/she learns to follow the appropriate guidelines (I sincerely hope so) Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•Skyrim To-Do List 04:01, November 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * I hope so. I am getting tired of cleaning up the articles. ;) GrandMoffVixen (talk) 04:04, November 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, if they have not learnt their lesson by this time, we shall take... stricter measures (However, the first warning SHOULD be enough) Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•Skyrim To-Do List 04:06, November 26, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks from Russian TES wiki community for your warm welcoming. We would try to provide as much links as possible leading to your pages of the equal content. ;-)

Wild Cat (talk) 12:27, November 26, 2011 (UTC)

Top editor
That's because we're awesome. :D Actually, I just checked Wikia Gaming and I got booted off the list. Looks like I need to pick up my game. Lol. --— Radical D  (bother \   stalk)   16:26, November 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Why am I not seeing it? Maybe I'm looking at the wrong page. By the way, Wingrend666 keeps vandalizing pages. Might wanna show him whose boss :) --— Radical D  (bother \   stalk)   21:43, November 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Gotcha. I found it now. That's crazy. I've been listed as a top editor on either PC Games or Gaming Wikia for about a week now. --— Radical D  (bother \   stalk)   21:56, November 26, 2011 (UTC)

Darkness Returns changes
I wanted to get your input on some changes I made for the Darkness Returns page in my Sandbox. I cleaned up the section dealing with the powers. I would like to change the article but I wanted approval first to make sure it meets with all the guidelines. Thoughts?

I have also asked Elchzard for input as well. GrandMoffVixen (talk) 16:59, November 26, 2011 (UTC)

Photo Deletion...
I apologize for the bother, but I managed to upload the wrong photo while editing a page. If you could please delete TESV-2011-11-26-18-08-32-62.png ... It isn't published to an article. Rasuto.Kitami (talk) 01:39, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

Daderic Smithing
Hi Timeoin,

I would like to know why you chose to delete the Daedric Smithing perk page. It was one page of a complete set of standardised perk pages I made for the Smithing perk tree (Steel Smithing, Dwarven Smithing, Ebony Smithing, etc) - so now the set has a hole in it. Was the idea of having an individual page for each perk (with a picture of each) really so bad? And since you have deleted one, it would appear to be logical to delete them all.

Thanks, -ekulylnam. (talk) 04:01, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for responding! I'd also like to comment - I did actually see the deletion notice, and I even posted on the talk page (the deletion notice gave me that option as a way to challenge the deletion).

Thanks, -ekulylnam. (talk) 04:23, November 27, 2011 (UTC)