User talk:TombRaiser/Archive 20

Patroller class
Hi Tomb.How do we create a class like Patroller? Jarjarkine (talk) 20:34, November 21, 2013 (UTC)


 * Patroller is a custom title that we use here, but the default name is called Rollback. It's already a user-right group available on all wikis. Only a Founder/Bureacrat can grant user-rights. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  20:57, November 21, 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi tomb can you go to the chat? i have think that Auto.told me to ask you becuz he dont know.Jarjarkine (talk) 00:08, November 22, 2013 (UTC)

Tending the Flames
Hey,

Im going through Skyrim right now trying to get the last two achievements and im about to finish the Tending the Flames guest. I noticed that we dont have the end results for the King Olaf's Verse and i wanted to know if we wanted this. Ill be more then happy to reload a few times to write down the seven possible paragraphs, but i was wondering if there was a reason why we didn't have it.-Cheatcodechamp (talk) 06:33, November 26, 2013 (UTC)

Console Commands (Skyrim)/Books
I've been editing the books page, more or less like I edited the other console subpages. I have 2 questions and a remark: Documentalist (talk) 10:57, November 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * A TOC and heading are not easy to combine with columns. As an alternative I used a navigation bar. What do you think about that?
 * I would like to be able to collapse the right panel. If you scroll below the panel you'll see a dull gray space where another column would fit. Can we do that?
 * The lower part of the page still needs ID templates, I'm working on a script to do that for us. The same script I used to fix the IDs on Console Commands (Skyrim)/Characters.


 * Yes, the way you have set up the navigation bar is great. A lot better than having a long TOC.


 * I'm not sure what you mean by the right panel. Are you talking about the side-bar that has the Recent Wiki Activity, Photos, and Chat? If so, I don't think there is a way to hide that. For the most part, it is already a vast improvement over what it was before. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  19:02, November 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * To hide the side-bar:
 * 1. Click Special:MyPage/wikia.css (or MediaWiki:Wikia.css).
 * 2. Edit the page.
 * 3. Copy this code and paste it at the end of the file.

visibility: hidden; } margin-right: 0px }
 * 1) WikiaRail {
 * 1) WikiaMainContentContainer {
 * 4. Publish and clear cache.
 * Now look again at the books page with various window size. If you prefer the side-bar undo the edit above. Documentalist (talk) 20:59, November 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * I see now. I don't think that is something we should apply to the wiki though, since it hides the side-bar from every page except the main page. Some people (including me) use the side-bar for quick access from any page we are currently on. If you want to use it in your own personal .css that is fine, but forcing the change for everyone on the wiki is probably not such a good idea. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  21:12, November 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * I agree, we shouldn't hide the side-bar for all pages (just haven't figured out how to make it user collapsible/expandable per page). Is this an option for all pages?

margin: 0px; max-width: 100%; } Documentalist (talk) 21:29, November 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) WikiaPage {


 * That there is a bit too wide, and makes our background image un-needed. If you can find a way to only apply that to console command pages, then I think it could work, but again, to apply it to the whole wiki would not work very well. I don't know if it is even possible to apply it to certain pages though. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  22:20, November 26, 2013 (UTC)

Paarthurnax
Hey Tomb, I have a question. Currently, the page Paarthurnax (Character) is using the SkyrimNPC template. Shouldn´t we use the SkyrimCreatures template. I know he's also a greybeard but he's also a dragon. 12:05, November 26, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you.
Thank you for your help. But I have one question, where is the Stormcloak User-Bos? I can't seem to find it on your page. Zippertrain85 (talk) 16:38, November 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * I did just what you said, I copied and pasted the code from the original userbox. But for some reason all it says is "Mcontent". I copied and pasted the exact code, and it's still not working for some reason. Zippertrain85 (talk) 23:19, November 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * I will post it on your userpage so you can see what I mean. I created the template so that the only thing you need to do is add it to you page. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  23:23, November 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * How do you copy and paste a Templete? That seems to be my problem. Zippertrain85 (talk) 23:47, November 26, 2013 (UTC)

Talk format
How can we change the user talk format? Jarjarkine (talk) 01:57, November 27, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes its what i mean and sorry if i am not clear because its hard for me to speak english cuz i am french canadian :)Jarjarkine (talk) 20:18, November 27, 2013 (UTC)


 * No but it worked! i have to go on wiki features and to switch it Jarjarkine (talk) 12:11, November 28, 2013 (UTC))

Two pages-same quest
Hi Tomb, I found these 2 quests.. Have you any idea which one is the correct questname? Kill Dagoth Tanis and Slay Dagoth Tanis. I haven't installed the CS for Morrowind yet and can't check... :) 07:51, November 28, 2013 (UTC)


 * Hey Ebony, I'm out of town again, so I don't have access to the CS to check. I'll be back by December 1st, so if you haven't found out by then, I'll have a look when I get back home. :) — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  23:07, November 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks... I'll merge them when I get the time. So much to do at the moment. I have to clean out the flat as much as I can for them to take photos on Friday.. Hope you had a nice time out of town. Talk to you later. 10:40, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

Masthead.js
why does this page http://shadow-moon.wikia.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js/masthead.js dont work?

can you help me?Jarjarkine (talk) 01:25, November 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * You didn't import the file in your common.js Documentalist (talk) 03:58, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Hi tomb and Happy Thx giving (late)! i was wondering how are you adding the community news on the main page but to have the whole list of the blog? i cant do it on my wiki and i saw it on a few others wiki.But the thing is that i dont really remember the name so..i am asking to you :)Jarjarkine (talk) 20:43, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Signature warning
Hello, mrs Raiser. I think you're the one who employed the warning that pops up when a post is left unsigned, so i'll ask this to you. Is the warning supposed to come up when you create a category? It did for me, and got me a little confused. Thanks in advance. 21:16, November 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, it prompted when i created Category:Morrowind: Vivec City Locations. Could it be something related to my browser? I'm using a tablet. 01:45, December 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Tried going to Chrome and Opera mobile, tried going to Visual Mode, same results. I'll have to try in a regular computer when i get the chance. I'll contact you again if the same thing happens. Thanks, though. 02:02, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

Video
Why did you delete the video?? nzskiing 03:35, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

So how do i put the video up, i had a lf difficulty finding where the hell it was because there were no clear insturctions on how to get it, so me being a kind soul decided to make one and upload it, there was no music no copyright just leave it.

nzskiing 03:40, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

Hey there!
How have you been? Long time, no see. Fortunately, I realized the wiki is not blocked by my work's web filter, so I'll be editing more. Or, at least patrolling. I don't even know where to start. So many new faces around here. So much is different. :) Do you guys still get on the IRC? My subscription expired. -- 04:22, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

Template namespace
The template namespace is meant for public templates, not personal stuff. You should add your userpage content into your userspace, eg User:TombRaiser/Profile and call it as. --Speysider Talk Page 20:17, December 1, 2013 (UTC)


 * Well, the point of the template namespace is for code that can be used over and over again. A template which is only going to be used by one user and just on one page doesn't need to be a template, it's just a basic wiki etiquette, that's all. Only wanted to mention it for future reference. --Speysider Talk Page 20:26, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

Blog.
So I was planning on making a blag refuting the artcles made by User:JoshofBlades, since I am a Stormcloak support and his blogs are pro-Imperial. I was wondering, if this was allowed. Since I know there's a policy that you can't make personal attacks (I won't in the blog), but I was just curious how sensitive that rule is, since I will refute his points and explain why I believe they're wrong. Zippertrain85 (talk) 20:23, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

MOTM
Did the Member of the Month process die out? Looks like the last nominations were for September with no clear victor appointed. Are we postponing the award indefinitely? Was there something I missed? I would so like to nominate an editor, who I believe is deserving of recognition; however, I do not want to encroach on an administrative decision I might have missed in my absence.

Additionally, there is something I want to bring to your attention. Last night, I discovered a very troublesome edit. As can be clearly viewed from the article history, I reverted the blatant UESP-content thievery and warned the editor, but I wanted you (and the other admins) to be aware of what happened, so we can monitor this editor's future contributions. -- 22:38, December 1, 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the detailed response. Mucho appreciato. Looking through September's archive, I see the obvious confusion. I agree that renaming the award to "Editor of the Month" is preferable, now that the forums are roaring again. Makes more sense, and I am a patron of clarity. Jimbo brought up many, many good points, and I feel like I agree with him 100% of the way. The honor should only be given to those who contribute to the mainspace, templates, categories, MediaWiki etc., since those are more important in my opinion. I was considering nominating Documentalist for all the console contributions he's been giving, but I will pause on that until consensus is reached about where to go from here.


 * Since we're talking about forums, I was contemplating starting a forum post to advertise and remind editors of the VIP feature. I've been going through old edits and finding vandalism that was reverted, but never punished. The activity of the forums has completely ruined our ability to effectively patrol the RC, and I find it mind-numbing. Especially since the drop down bar for excluding certain namespaces in the RC is broken, so I can't hide forum posts. Wikia really needs to do something about this. It's obscene. I know they get a massive erection from promoting community over article quality, as evidenced by their desire to incessantly force push the addition of videos on us, the new forum layouts, new talk page and notification systems, badges etc. Anyway, rant aside. I want to promote the VIP more, and have it highlighted so all editors see it. I'm also planning on making an active statement about wanting to recruit more patrollers, and using the forum post as a avenue for that. I would, of course, mention the qualifications for it. Hopefully, the idea of having added responsibilities and a cool colored name will convince editors to edit more (and better).


 * As for the UESP situation. I'm just glad it wasn't Jimeee who discovered it. He would've been a lot less forgiving, to say the very least. Poor guy would have been blocked on the spot. Sorry for the essay. -- 00:41, December 2, 2013 (UTC)

Chathacks/pings
Hello TombRaiser.

I'm a patroller over on the Fallout wiki and I am in the process of being elected moderator. For some reason my pings don't seem to work in any of my browsers. Someone told me that you had the same issue and I was wondering if you found a solution for it. Thanks! A Follower(talk) 08:55, December 2, 2013 (UTC)

ID Notes
Hello again Mrs Raiser. I was wondering if a note regarding the xx thing could be put on the console command pages, to prevent someone from changing them to 04 or 02, according to their load orders. What do you think? 19:56, December 2, 2013 (UTC)

Concept Art Page
Hey Tomb. Due to the recent addition of many concept art images on the wiki, I was wondering if we could make articles of the concept art from each game. Online, Skyrim, Oblivion, Morrowind, etc. The pages would most likely be in list format, with one column for the image, one for the description and maybe one for the location where the image was obtained from.

Any thoughts? — AutoBlood  Talk  21:14, December 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah exactly, with the names, categorizations, and dismabiguation.


 * Also, I do not know how to create an archive, and if I did, I would want one of those headers that you and most staff have at the top of the each talk page.


 * Thanks. — AutoBlood  Talk  21:36, December 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * Interjection time! I created a placeholder at Concept Art for those interested in adopting this project. Might I recommend using a gallery instead of a list? I feel like this will be more appropriate. We could include multiple galleries based on similar image topics, and add a brief lead paragraph per header. Ideas? At any rate, most o the Category:Concept Art categories already existed. I created ones for Redguard and Oblivion based on what I could locate in four seconds. -- 05:09, December 4, 2013 (UTC)


 * You may want to mention it to AutoBlood too, as he may not be aware of the message on my page. His idea for using the navigation tool is something that is tied to using the tabled-list that he had in mind, and I'm not sure if the navigation tool could be used if we did a gallery. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  05:16, December 4, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Archive Template

 * How do I create a template such as yours for the archiving at the top of the talk page.


 * Thanks. — AutoBlood  Talk  21:59, December 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, exactly. That would be great if you could place the code on my talkpage.— AutoBlood  Talk  22:10, December 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * Awesome. Thanks so much!.


 * I think I'm done with questions for now. :)— AutoBlood  Talk  22:16, December 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * You're welcome! No problem at all. :) — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  22:17, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

Concept Art (Cont.)
For the concept art pages, maybe we could utilize Documentalist's navigation tool on the pages as a way for lists that pertain to characters, locations, items, etc. — AutoBlood  Talk  23:59, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

RE: Patroller nomination
Hey TombRaiser, thank you for the nomination. I'd definitely be interested in becoming a patroller. Is there anything I should do next or read first? Thanks. MHInfinite (talk) 12:50, December 4, 2013 (UTC)

Onmund's edit
Hi TombRaiser, I'm the user that 'edited' the Ogmund page. I'm playing the game for the second time since it first came out, as a Redguard instead of a Nord. When I heard that line, it struck me as clever in that it could be read both ways. Like saying "the wedding went off without a hitch" meaning nothing went wrong (they got married) or something did go wrong and they didn't get married (didn't get 'hitched'). Ultimately, I can't say this was the intention of the writers and I don't have any way of knowing if different dialogue ever occurs (perhaps some other Redguard Player heard him say something like "Darn, I guess I'm the only Nord"). So in absence of this hypothetical alternative, it is my opinion that his koan works and shouldn't be considered a bug. Sorry if I didn't follow protocol with the page edit, I'm new here, just trying to find my [actual] wife a spouse for her sneak-thief Bosmer. - psolimyn

24.231.130.7 07:46, December 6, 2013 (UTC)

Akaviri Warhammer
I ma thinking about making a page about Akaviri Warhammer I found in Oblivion. If you have any objections let me know

Zu&#39;u lost daal. Alduin1996 (talk) 21:09, December 6, 2013 (UTC) Zu&#39;u lost daal. Alduin1996 (talk) 21:59, December 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) Yeah it is that one. I found it in Dzonot cave and I was like wow. While I am on can I apply for Patroller status or does someone else need to nominate me?

Gratitude
Tomb, thx for anything you did for me because it is really important that you know, it is alot for me so i want to show you my gratitude :) Jarjarkine (talk) 00:18, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

Chat Guidelines
Dear TombRaiser,

I have been recently informed by a few users relatively new to this Wiki, and by extension, its Chat, that the Chat Guidelines do not specify rules against things such as initiating a conversation about Nazism and the horrors inflicted upon the Jewish peoples during World War II. This example was inspired by a rather unpleasent, though peaceful, conversation I held with a new user. While I listed such a thing as Misbehavioural Conduct and carefully explained why I thought of it as such, said user insisted that I should allow it, as the Chat Guidelines did not specify that such things were frowned upon, if not entirely illegal. My reason for writting such a long paragraph, is that I hope either you or someone else with the necessary clearence, could modify Chat Guidelines to be more specific about such things.

Sincerely,

789Snowbird987 (talk) 03:52, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

(cont.)

Thank you for your attention in this matter. I only wish to avoid such situations, in the future. 789Snowbird987 (talk) 04:22, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

UESP Plagiarism
Hey Tomb, I was on the chat recently when someone named " Nocte Canticum " contacted me and told me that he's a representative from UESP and thinks that our picture of the dremora lord was stolen from them. (S) He asked me to contact an admin about it.

Their image: http://uesp.net/wiki/File:SR-npc-Dremora_Caitiff.jpg

Our image: File:Dremora Lord.jpg

Fishy (talk) 03:00, December 8, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yep, those are definitely lifted from UESP. I will remove them so another user may provide some original content. Thanks for the heads up! — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  03:42, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

Search box
Halo Nation its there too.Jarjarkine (talk) 03:44, December 8, 2013 (UTC)


 * Mobile app?? What is tht? and any idea if its a css?Jarjarkine (talk) 03:46, December 8, 2013 (UTC)


 * Is it that? ToolbarJarjarkine (talk) 04:08, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

Blocked?
Yo its me Jarjarkine, i am blocked!!! I changed my user name and now i cannot enter on it.173.177.81.32 18:54, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

Okay everything is fine i did something in my Gmail. :)Emperor Jarjarkine (talk) 19:12, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

Abuse filter
Hey, I noticed you deactivated the YouTube video filter. I'm just curious if there was some problem with that needed fixing? -- 07:34, December 10, 2013 (UTC)


 * Its preventing users from editing The Elder Scrolls Online page because some of the references are YouTube links. It would be better if it just warned users that the edit contains YouTube links instead of disallowing an edit at all. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  07:41, December 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * Could we cite sources other than YouTube videos? How reliable are the videos? Are they official? -- 07:44, December 10, 2013 (UTC)


 * I counted 4 YouTube links being used as a reference, and of those only 3 of them are official and interviews from a ZeniMax developer. These links are all from a year ago, so I'm guessing that is why they were used as a reference, because at that time there wasn't very much confirmed info from ZeniMax on ESO. Now, those links could possibly be replaced with references cited from the official Elder Scrolls Online website, it's just a matter of digging them up. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  18:17, December 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * Excellent detective work. I can help you uncover sources. I love doing that, but I haven't looked at the article in about a year. -- 18:46, December 10, 2013 (UTC)

Elder Scrolls Online page - filter still blocking edits
Greetings & salutations.

Since you said you were going to disable the youtube abuse filter, we tried (for the third time), to clean-up the Elder Scrolls Online page just a few minutes ago. Whatever you did to disable the youtube abuse filter didn't work. :-( DarthOrc (talk) 07:46, December 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * I handled this. Looking over what DarthOrc wanted to add to the article from the abuse filter log, I integrated the changes I felt were necessary with a large edit I planned on making to the page. -- 08:36, December 11, 2013 (UTC)

Images names
can you check theVulos Diin images i don't think he or she is not properly naming images can you please check the users images thanks.Crazy131


 * Sky Above already took care of this. Next time you see images that are not being named properly, leave a message on the user's talk page, and let them know about the policy on naming images properly. Alternately, you can place the template on the image, so a patroller or admin can rename the file. — TombRaiser   SPEAK!  20:12, December 11, 2013 (UTC)


 * yeah thanks i will use that info when another user does that Crazy131


 * Please remember to create your response on a new line, and indent it as needed. Also please sign your messages at the end of your message, not the beginning. Thanks. :) — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  22:03, December 11, 2013 (UTC)