Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-27007772-20140611204941/@comment-26356342-20150617232656

Bravo on countering all 0 of my points. you conviently stop your rant just before you would have been forced to provide real evidence to your claims.


 * Your insistance that there is 1 signle canon Dragonborn is pure denial.

From: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Last_Dragonborn

"  In  Skyrim, as with all  Elder Scrolls'' games, race, gender, appearance, and equipment are left to the player's discretion." ''

'' There is NO lore that suggests the Dragonborn HAS to be a nord. ''


 * In the quest to return Torygg's War Horn there is never an instance when a Thalmor attacks you right after.

see: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Torygg%E2%80%99s_War_Horn

Notice the lack of information concerning a Thalmor agent attacking you after completing the quest.


 * While you still openly claim the Dark Brotherhood recruits the Dragonborn, no matter what, you're ignoring all points to the contrary, and simply writing it off as saying it's bethesda's fault. Also; the Night mother NEVER speaks to cicero.... so you assuming she would eventually, is just that.. your assumption.


 * While it's almost refreshing to see you actually provide some evidence, it's all rendered useless... You're arguing UNUSED and OMITTED quests/dialog as if it's still canon. It's not. Thats why they omitted it to begin with. So yell and rant all you like about what was "supposed" to happen... and what "could" have happened but it will get you nowhere because it DIDNT happen as far as the game/lore is concerned.


 * Again... it's... "Jarl" not "Yarl"


 * I'm seeing a whole lot of "If they did this.." in your arguments... I can do that do... "If the Dragonborn sides with the Empire the Stormcloaks lose"


 * The fact that Tullius addresses he knows you from Helgan, and pardons you, would suggest he isnt as bad as you say and negate this whole "YOU SHOULD HAVE A BOUNTY!" argument you keep ranting on about. again... you keep saying "should" but "should have" isnt what was presented. Maybe stick to what actually happened and not preproduction ideas.


 * Destroy the illusion of the fanbase having a right to write out their own backstory by claiming the Dragon Priest masks somehow negate the possibility of a backstory? What are you even trying to say here?


 * You keep saying the Emperor died in Skyrim is canon, that didnt happen in my game, So I have every right to say Ulfric (who is also dead in my game) had nothing to do with the Emperor's Death. To add to that, since the game doesnt go any further within the timeline, there is no way to know IF the Empire retalliates the loss of their emperor. That part hasnt been written yet.


 * after your legnthy rant of not saying anything relevent..and for some reason linking to sites about underdogs, which has absolutly no baring on the topic at hand.... I'll go ahead and bring it back to the topic and ask you one last time for some evidence to your claims;

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 * You have yet to explain how an independent Skyrim defends it's borders should they come under invasion. If the Empire is as weak as you say, and Ulfric already said he couldn't handle an all out invasion, HOW does he fight off the Dominion?
 * Where is a source saying the Dragonborn is a Jesus allegory
 * Where is the source saying people die in the thousands daily?
 * Where is the source saying there are repeated raids happening daily?
 * Where is it stated by Bethesda, the Dragonborn has to choose Ralof?
 * Where is the source on the Empire specifically "Overkilling" the Talos worshipers?
 * Where is the source saying theres a debt High Rock has to pay?