Board Thread:Consensus Track/@comment-658634-20131216220021/@comment-658634-20131219184559

Deyvid Petteys wrote: Why split the wikis when editors can simply create a mini-guild called a "WikiProject" that focuses exclusively on one game's articles? We already started rolling the ball on that one. Check it out here: Thread:367175. Because that still does not remove the game name stammering from trough out the articles, categories, templates and so on nor the navigation problem. Deyvid Petteys wrote: I'm sorry, Blacksmith, that you feel disambiguation is messy and difficult to navigate. That's the complete opposite of what it's intended to do. This type of function is as old as Wikipedia, and is quite commonplace there. Yes, I know. I have stumbled once or twice on a disamg page (created even couple dozen them) and they are usually a sign of badly/misnamed named article's or a problematic topic. That's why the C:disamg is usually tried to keep as tiny as possible. I this 'god' wiki (ref. god article) it is instead embraced as a feature instead of a tool for fixing 'broken' stuff. And that's just great. Jippii, horray and so. As long as its not the namespace way. Deyvid Petteys wrote: If a link leads to a disambiguation page, consider editing the article, so that it goes to the correct place. For example, an Oblivion monster that drops Leather Armor could have the Leather Armor link point to Leather Armor (Oblivion) and seamlessly introduce the correct information. And if it would be in Oblivion.wikia.com there would be no need for such redundant game name repeating as all Oblivion monsters dropping Oblivion armor in Oblivion are armors used in Oblivion and can't be used outside of Oblivion. If the Oblivion leather armor could be used outside the game Oblivion, and somehow the Oblivion armor could be exported from Oblivion, the Oblivion leather armor could be linked to the correct game that is not Oblivion with W: prefix from the Oblivion wiki article. Oblivion. Oblivion. And once more Oblivion. Deyvid Petteys wrote: For someone with very little contributions on this wiki, you're making an awfully bold and drastic proposition here with little evidence as to its benefit. Number of edits make your ideas less or more sound? Because I haven't driven with your car nearly as much as you have, my suggestion changing that flat tire is is bad? Is number of contributions valid measurement, or their quality or nature? Is person that has done 200k posts outside of this wiki inferior to person with 200 in this wiki? None of these are actually valid questions as wiki etiquette encourages to be bold and no one is better than others i.o. the golden rule.

For the evidence part, open any (game related) article and count how many times the games name is repeated. Now go to any (game related) category and do the same. Repeat to all game related stuff. That all game name stammering could be simply removed, like magic! *PUFF*, by using the game related wiki. e.g. skyrim.wikia.com

Might just be that you are so accustomed seeing the games name repeated everywhere and making clarifications that you don't even think about it anymore or see it as a burden. To a 'new' guy this looks silly/hazardous and for a reader it can be dangerously misleading. Imperial Scourge wrote: Also other wiki's are all linked together for their respective game series, such as CoD, Halo Nation, and Assassin's Creed wiki's, and they are running just fine. You might think and you are entailed to your opinion totally but some people are irritated with the fact that you can find yourself reading about things, features, monsters, equipment, NPC's, anything that is not in the game you are playing right now and to what you were seeking that information. Dark Jeto wrote: I love how you basically tear into DarthOrc for stating his opinion with the logic that it's "a assumption", and then immediately turn around and talk about how great this wiki would be if more people had your opinion on organization. Seems you missed the point. We know (that you don't _know_ as a fact) that if those with your preference (that information should be clear, focused and easily navigable) were in the majority, we wouldn't be having this debate (as they would not be using this wiki as this wiki does not uphold those). Dark Jeto wrote: Oh, and nice shameless self-kudos you got there. Of course, you're probably just going to delete this post like you did to Mania and Brandon who called you out on it before. It would be quite perplexing if not even myself would like the idea. (Although 'liking' is trend that I personally shun. No matter how many people likes, the moon is not cheese). And yes I will delete your post also as it is also offtopic. Show some manners.