User talk:DLanyon

In Reply
Thanks for the encouragement, DLanyon! Doing the item pages can be quite tedious sometimes, but in a way it's fun, too. And in the long run, rewarding. It's great when someone comments in the way you did, because it boosts my enthusiasm about continuing the project.

P.S.- any comments on my perk page edits? I went through the Smithing perks, and am interested in hearing what others think. I know one person grabbed at one of the pages and voted for its speedy deletion, so that was a bit of a downer, but what about you? I effectively did what I've been doing with item pages (and sometimes that means overwriting a smushed paragraph of semi-relevant babble that existed on a page with the same name).

-ekulylnam. (talk) 12:09, November 26, 2011 (UTC)

Improved Versions
Hi,

Uh.. yeah I might get around to that. It will take me quite some time to finish standardising all the weapon/armor pages; when I finish I might start on that. That will take deeper (research?); there are what... four levels of improvement? Thanks for the heads-up, though. I hadn't actually thought about that. The trick will be juggling all the random people trying to change details on the base pages (everyone seems to think that if they see a higher damage, it means I was wrong) and finishing the ones that have been overlooked or not reached yet (iron, glass, daedric, etc - and yeah, the glass ones currently existing do not quite follow my formula, so i'll need to look them over).

Lots of work ahead =P

Thanks for the comment though :)

-ekulylnam. (talk) 10:10, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Weapon Page Template
Thanks for that, DLanyon. I didn't actually realise that about the bold first reference when I edited the Elven Bow page. I have been using my template (with the item bolded at the start) ever since I learned that. Glad you spotted that; I might need to check through all the Elven items.

-ekulylnam. (talk) 08:35, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Hi DLanyon, how you doin. Just a heads up - I saw you added the page for North Skybound Watch - I guess you used the default locations template, but we now have lots of location specific templates for forts, ruins, etc.

I think North Skybound Watch is a tomb/ruin so you can always use this one (Template:Skyrim_Tomb) if that helps!

Jimeee (talk) 15:30, November 29, 2011 (UTC)Jimeee

Hi. the caves one is Template:Caves. It should work but i'll check it out.

Also, I'll be adding more location templates so eveything will have it's place soon - if in doubt just use the default and i'll fix it later.

Weapon Boxes
Hi DLanyon,

When I saw your name attached to the edit, I was rather hesitant to remove it. I see what you are doing, but I think it crams too much information into a little box and squishes the picture into a tiny space, making it harder to see. You can run the idea by Timeoin I guess (and if you do, or have, it'd be great if you tell me what he says), but I find that it makes the pages less enjoyable. Those boxes are great for characters and locations! But I don't like the idea of using them for armor or weapon pages.

Also, I want to mention that if you had put the template (complete with all the materials and everything) on EVERY weapon/armor page, I would not have edited it out. The idea of one or two pages having it (and someone expecting me to apply a template I dislike) is annoying.

Again, I don't hate the idea, but I think it clutters the weapon/armor pages. There is more room on those for information to be spread out, and that way the users can see a full-size picture on the side as well. Characters and locations are different. Especially locations (I like the way they lay it out on the Guild Wars wiki, such as here).

Thanks,

-ekulylnam. (talk) 01:57, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Uh, sure I'll work on the Scaled and Plate armor pages now. I haven't done much recently other than watch the pages I've edited/created, so I should push forward again. I've just had other things to do. Cheers. -ekulylnam. (talk) 02:20, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Questsion About Hides and Pelts
Thats actually a fairly good question! To answer it, I suggest doing the following: Have them all listed on the Tanning Rack page (which right now has hardly any information on it). (I.e. list the different amounts, i.e. Bear Pelt = x leather, etc). I would also suggest making a page called Tanning, and list the detailed information about each of the different types there. Tanning is the correct name for the process by which Pelts and Hides become leather (both in-universe and out) so that is where redirects for Pelts and Hides should be directed towards. I dont see the harm in having more pages for the varying types, too, either (in fact, if written well, it would be beneficial). My only request with that would be that any of those pages have on them, so that they would link to that main page. If they also listed various animals that drop them, those individual pages would be very good pages indeed :) Hopefully, that answers your question! Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•Skyrim To-Do List 11:44, December 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * No problem! I'm glad that I could help :) And wikis are way more fun when more people get involved in making it awesome :D Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•Skyrim To-Do List 12:37, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

Hi There

Yeah, I think that perhaps we should include the map section on each template for consistancy. Originally I omitted it for minor locations, but it's prolly better to have them in all the locations.

Templates update
Hi There

Yeah, I think that perhaps we should include the map section on each template for consistancy. Originally I omitted it for minor locations, but it's prolly better to have them in all the locations. As for the other parts - I roughly followed the default template but ommited parts that didn't fit certain templates (like enemies in towns etc) so doing this some of the ordering has been mixed up slightly. So I agree that we need to make them so they line up somewhat.

We need consistancy with the labels, so lets say we agree on the following default order - but then remove certain fields for things like "Landmarks" that dont really need a sublocation or characters label.
 * Image
 * Map

Jimeee (talk) 12:15, December 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hold
 * Location - Directions, like east of Winterhold.
 * Type - Mine, Cave etc
 * Sublocations
 * Quests
 * Characters or Occupants (which do you think works better as I have used both)
 * Enemies
 * RefID
 * BaseID - not sure if this applies to locations - do you know about these?

About weapons and armors
Oh yeah, another thing - I saw you had some edits to weapons/armors reverted bacause they used the templates. I was speaking to Dayvid about this and we agree that infoboxes on these pages are pretty much a standatd anyway and that all these pages should have them. I will continue to add the weapon and armor templates anyway, so feel free to do so also - and if there is any problems I suggest we contact an admin or Timeion to get it sorted out.

Jimeee (talk) 16:33, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

Leather page
Hey,

Yeah I get bothered by the wireframe tables on the grey background. And when I looked at the code I saw that that was a mess too. I cleaned up what I could, but if there was anything I missed feel free to fix it (of course).

Hmm, someone is going around creating weapon pages with that template thing of yours. Nordic ones. Once again, I don't know whether we should swap to using it everywhere (whee, mass-reformatting spree...) or whether I should edit/integrate them into the page. Did you ask Timeoin about it?

-ekulylnam. (talk) 19:35, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, it looks great - we should add these to other templates, i'll try to update some of the other templates and remove the ID fields as we don't need them. Thanks! Jimeee (talk) 09:29, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

Templates update
Hi again. I have updated the templates so it should be more consistent now. Most categories are built into the templates, but some are not - so if you are editing pages can you please add what hold the location is located in. I have already created the categories, so just pick the relevant one. You can see what I mean on this page I made:

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Skyrim:_Locations_by_Hold

Also i'm making a small edit to the templates so that you dont need to add the link tags the "Hold" field - just type in "Whiterun Hold" and the template will make it a link automatically.Jimeee (talk) 13:53, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

New Template box
One issue with the template box is that it stops us from editing in visual mode. I use visual mode for rearranging tables and checking links/proofreading. Now it's not so easy. Just thought I'd let you know. -ekulylnam. (talk) 20:55, December 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * It's not a huge issue, and I mostly find it when proofreading (in other words, much of my editing works fine in source mode). Another thing, though - why do the tables have dividing/subject lines under Damage and Value but not under Weight? You/they might like to look into that. -ekulylnam. (talk) 21:06, December 7, 2011 (UTC)