Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-77.172.125.107-20130901100104/@comment-13446185-20130924005431

Nazul Rostello wrote: Dovahsebrom wrote: P.S: I find it kind of ironic that these so called "cavemen" live rather civilized lives while your "first class citizen" Forsworn practice human sacrifice, worship hagravens, and kill every person who isn't part of their race. I used to think the same thing until I heard Braig's story about his late daughter and lose my sympathy for the Nords. Atmorans were barbarian themselves & brought the Dragon Cult with them, thus bringing the first conflict into Skyrim.

It's explained that Red Eagle; Faolan, the leader of Reach warriors fighting against occupation by the Empire of the First Era. He made a pact with Hagravens, power in exchange for his heart, will and humanity. He became such a fierce warrior as a result that he was able to lead his Reachmen in a campaign that nearly drove the Legion out of the Reach. Basically he sacrificed himself for the greater good, the same thing the Forsworn doing now, retaking the Reach from the Nords. Atmorans were barbarian themselves & brought the Dragon Cult with them, thus bringing the first conflict into Skyrim.

I think I remember hearing somewhere that the Dragon Cult of Atmora was much less brutal than the one set up in Skyrim, mostly because it wasn't until the Nords settled Skyrim that the Dragons began to exploit the Cult. Also the Dragon Cult wasn't the traditional Ancient Nordic Pantheon, it is as it says, a Cult. it gained power after Ysgramors death and eventually took over as the main authority and religion of Skyrim when Alduin went to Skyrim, the traditional ancient Nordic Pantheon has Shor as it's leader rather than Alduin.

Plus, the Dragon Wars wasn't the first tamrielic conflict of the Atmorans, the Night of Tears was.

Basically he sacrificed himself for the greater good, the same thing the Forsworn doing now, retaking the Reach from the Nords.

Sounds more like desperation to me, as Falion didn't even succeed. Do I still need to explain to you that the Forsworn Uprising never should have happened. the Reach is part of de jure Skyrim, the Forsworn didn't have to revolt, it isn't like the Nords were keeping any rights from them, they were as much citizens of the Reach as Nords were. But no the stupid Forsworn have to muck everything up and when they're rebellion gets put down they act like they're the victims. I mean really they forcefully took over the capital of the Reach, did they think that was going to end well?

I used to think the same thing until I heard Braig's story about his late daughter and lose my sympathy for the Nords.

Yah that one is kind of sad, but unfortunately, war is hell.