User talk:Deyvid Petteys

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Video Walkthroughs
Hey rad, meant to ask, what's the general consensus of video walkthroughs? Have a ton in mind that i'll post to the youtube channel, and reverse link to here (few thousand followers, that keep asking silly questions in pm's without seeing the wiki) ...is it an ok thing to post them? or should i stick to the text?

oh yeah and fixed the format so last response is below the table now =p Silozero (talk) 17:20, December 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * (Edit) in RE: Cheers Rad for the response, shouldn't be a problem to put vids as an external cat, if i can i'll try to cold link back to the wikia page in youtube descripts... traffic both ways is always good :D

Silozero (talk) 18:33, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

No problem. I am at work, so I dont have the game in front of me, but what i can do is try to help clean thing up and make everything more formal.Poppaberry (talk) 19:08, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Images
Ah, I worked out what the problem was. It needs [[File: in front of it now. Thats not such a big problem :) I dont mind doing that on the pages, and, I DEFINITELY like having the "upload one now" show up, so yeah, I'd say leave it how it is for now? :) [[User:Timeoin|Timeoin]]•Say G'Day•View my work•Skyrim To-Do List 21:44, December 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Too be honest? I havent been much of a fan of the super-duper hi res images anyways :) Maybe its a holdover from the days when the internet was run on dialup, but I think having a tonne of clunky images just slows the site down (and thus, we lose viewers). Especially when the images are only going to be 300 or 400 px anyways, it just seems silly :) (Although, if for whatever reason, someone wanted to upload a higher one, and have, say, for instance, in a subtext somewhere click here for a higher resolution image I guess that would be okay, but they'd have to be separated :) Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•Skyrim To-Do List 21:55, December 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * True, but they that shall not be named (seriously, dont name them :P) use extremely high-resolution pictures, under the fair use thing too. I don't think Bethesda mind us having screenshots that are high res, as long as they have the thing on it (States that the images belong to a game from Bethesda, etc :) Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•Skyrim To-Do List 22:05, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Re:
You really must make a presence on the IRC! It's a great place where you can meet and greet some of the staff here on the wiki like G0LD3NF1RE and Me (of course), as well as Kacj321 and BloodReaper. I don't do much editing, I just keep the wiki secure from trolls, I also do odd jobs such as adding catergorys and what not. If ya need help just ask. Commander Faol (talk) 22:10, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Hey so I tried to put that werewolf video on the Skyrim Werewolf page and you said I could not add it there... so where CAN I add it? I tried adding it to multiple different things and was always denied please help! Thanks!

CrispyNinjaInc (talk) 01:24, December 2, 2011 (UTC) CrispyNinjaInc aka Spencer

Question about categories
Hi, i'm currently in the process of categorizing many things on the wiki, but I noticed you removed some of my categories for some character just now. Alchemists and residents of specific towns - I think there is no harm in having specific categories for as much as we can. What do you think?

Ok, I understand your reasoning as this is what the Oblivion pages have, but personally - mixing both characters and locations into 1 category seems strange and looks a little disorganized when browsing through it. If a user wants a list of all residents of Whiterun then there should be a page that accommodates that rather that having to sift through the a general Whiterun page.

An added layer of granularity to each city/town only makes this wiki better in my opinion.

As for the Armor templates - I'm not sure what you changed, but it seems to have omitted the image on http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Banded_Iron_Armor which is where I tested it.

Jimeee (talk) 09:42, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I see - but what's advantage of using instead of the old way of ?

Previously he image dimensions automatically scaled to fix the box anyway, so we didn't need to specify the width?

Jimeee (talk) 09:51, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I'll speak to Timeion and see what he thinks. Personally I want this wiki to be just as good as UESP so to do that we really need have a really solid category structure and right now it's really bad in some parts. I have tried to automatically assign some categories in the template code, but it needs work and we might need further discussion about it another time.

We may have great traffic right now, but in long run this kinda stuff will start to show so we need to deal with it now.

Jimeee (talk) 09:56, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Ah ok, I have never noticed any autoscale problems as most of my added images fitted well, but maybe it can be glitchy.

The categories thing drives me crazy - in so many places we aren't differentiating between Oblivion and Skyrim and that's the worst. I hate having to use " (Skyrim)" as it's so inconsistent when compared with older games, but it's all we can do right now :(

Hi Deyvid, Timeon seemed ok with the specific character categories, so i'll go ahead and make some of these.

Also I think we maybe need to add some guideline in the http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Skyrim:_Characters page to let people know thet what creating a new page to please add all the relevant categories so we don't need to re-do everything so I added a short checklist to that page. What do you think?

Jimeee (talk) 13:30, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

I agree it's disjointed, but this is mainly because the old Oblivion pages weren't categorised properly so it messed everyting after that up. So now we need to label everything "Skyrim: blah blah" (like Dark Brotherhood etc) which is a pain. I think eventually once we have solid categories in place the whole thing might be clearer so then we can make some kind of heirarchy ourself.

Don't worry about broad categories - they help a ton when people are searching on google.

1 category we need in every single skyrim page is simply "Skyrim" - it seems obvious but so many pages don't have it and it will at least help us separate oblivion stuff. We can hard code this category into the templates and im doing this anyway.Jimeee (talk) 20:22, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Broken Add Category button
Hello I dunno if it's just me or no but I'm having some kind of issues when trying to add Categories of any sort to pages when using the Add category option at the bottom of each page. Before, I began writing the word and it gave me the existing categories and i just had to select one or so. Now it doesn't show me these things and after i'm done writing the category by myself i press Enter but it does nothing and i can't add a new cateogory. So if i wanna add another one i have to click Save and only after that I can add another one by clicking again on the Add Category button. Does this happen to you too or it could be just me?

Vercinghetorix (talk) 20:38, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

For a massive wiki like this one broad categories is just going to lead to bigger problems later. We are seeing this now with all the Oblivion pages. We need to be obsessive about categories so we can organise all this info correctly. Jimeee (talk) 20:37, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

I didn't encounter the "preview" problem, but sometimes when i change from Visual to Source i get wikia error or the page gets stuck on Publishing your edit.... or when i post pics or upload them i get some sort of thing like "you selected index.php, open with ...blah blah " and i have to refresh the page or post it again, but i don't seem to have your problem with either the preview thing or the wiki error after each edit.

Vercinghetorix (talk) 20:58, December 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * I do. I have all the problems you guys encountered. (dont know about the picture one, i don't upload pictures) The one with the categories below the page. The need of refreshing the page when i hit publish after working on a page, or it getting stuck during publishing. Preview also is very very slow and sometimes doesn't work. Very rarely, when i push preview, it doesn't work and my edits in a page have been reset. Kennyannydenny (talk) 17:33, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Help
But then the history of the page is lost, am i right? it also said "please do not copy the info in the page to the other page because of losing the history" or something like that. So i can ignore that message? Kennyannydenny (talk) 17:28, December 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * Alright. Thank you for the clarification. I think i'll just wait for Timeion. Not because your solution is not right, but something in me says wait. I work on several wiki's and wikia's now and i nothing else than follow the rules. I think i'll stick to that ;) Thanks for everything. Kennyannydenny (talk) 17:36, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, just a little question. When using the template for weapons,like the Dawnbreaker for example, there is this Class thing and I'm not sure what's supposed to be written there: the skill which is improved by using that weapon like One-handed or Archery for bows or what kind of weapon is it like two-handed axe or one-handed mace.

Vercinghetorix (talk) 11:08, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

I see but for staves should I write N/A or None or smth like that?

Vercinghetorix (talk) 11:14, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Categories
Hey, um... apparently some folks just like to do whatever they feel like around here :( (They'll be added back in soon). When editing pages, still add the normal categories, like Nords, Males, Characters when you come across them, for the reasons that we discussed a while back :) Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•Skyrim To-Do List 00:29, December 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * Toes have already been "stepped on", but not by you :) I'm just waiting for confirmation from the person who can check the Veeter Bot logs before anything happens, though. Anyways, thanks for your help! Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•Skyrim To-Do List 00:45, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

Template issue?
Hi Deyvid, I noticed that on several pages that use the weapons template I made there seems to be small icons included for the weight/damage/value.

In the template I omitted these for 2 reasons - they are from Oblivion and they look ugly against the black background. For some reason pages like Grimsever and Nightengale armor now have these icons and I have no idea how they got there - I don't think they should be included - what do you think?

Re: Template
Personally I just want the wiki pages looking their best and I feel the icons detract from that - it's no so much that they are from Oblivion, it's more that they are not optimized for dark backgrounds.

Another thing I wanted to discuss was a user: Ekulylnam. He has been removing templates from weapons and armor pages and replacing them with just a picture because "It goes against the consistency and restates information that is already on the page; also, it is not being used elsewhere". I don't know how you feel about this, but IMO the templates for those pages are useful. I'm pretty sure Timeon is cool with them too.

Jimeee (talk) 15:12, December 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * Looking at g, I noticed that it linked to Septim (Coin), which was a brilliant idea, so I added links to relevant pages for the other icon templates. Personally, I think they help illustrate the point, as well as link directly to articles about things like health, magicka, armor, and carrying capacity. Plus, I just think it looks goods.

As for the other user omitting templates, I personally think that's wrong because infoboxes are cleaner. Information can be moved from the article to the infobox if necessary -- and to eliminate any redundancies of information. I support the template usage fully, because they're visually appealing and they contain general information about the subjects in a neat and orderly manner. I would say edit the templates back in, or undo any omissions you see. If the edits go too far back, I may be able to revert them for you, so long as legitimately helpful edits aren't interspersed between the template-add-in and the template-taken-out. If it sparks an edit war, bring and admin into it. --— Radical D  (bother \  stalk)  15:17, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

I believe the septim coin was already being used to denore 'Value'? Anyway I guess we could keep them icons - it's not the biggest problem we have right now.

As for the template reverts, i'll continue to add them in but I strongly suspect they will be reverted - we should probably have an admin or Timeon just make it clear from now that armor and weapon pages should use templates.

Jimeee (talk) 15:26, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

Weapons Template
Its working out real nice like. just got done editing all the npc pages and i'm starting to go through every weapons page and using the template. thanks for making it.Poppaberry (talk) 21:32, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, do you know why all the weapons template pages are bright blue, instead of their old colour which matched with the rest of the page?

Vercinghetorix (talk) 14:51, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Templates
Hey!

i saw that you just added a template to the page i created, Sinderion's Field Laboratory. I thought about adding the locations template, but did'nt because it has a space for a map picture, which is'nt needed. Maybe we need a template, for houses in cities, etc? Bsua (talk) 20:41, December 9, 2011 (UTC)BSUA

Images
Ooooh! Thanks for that! That was part of my (eventual) to do list, so ... thanks for that! :) If you needed the complete list, its over at Special:UncategorizedFiles. :) Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•Skyrim To-Do List 23:31, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Image Categories
Hi there. 8) I definitely want to help. I was adding 'Character Images' last night as the category, but then I saw the specific category today so I'm glad you stopped by to say hello. I also saw a new image template, I replaced the first one I saw with the, but rethought it before I replaced others. Should we have both or just use the ? Take care ~ Trippet (Talk) 02:12, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Categories and Licensing Templates to use:
Hi Guys!

I asked this question a little while ago and the answer that I got was that every image taken from a screenshot, in-game map image, or even those that use digital cameras to take pictures of anything ingame without editing it, or changing the image prior to posting should also be put in the Esimage licensing Type. The other type game-screenshot template can also be put as an additional licensing. But from what I was informed it does not have to have the latter.

I have also taken your advice and corrected my personal templates and JavaScript's to add the Licensing and Categories in an uploaded image have been updated to use the Sub-categories since they are now properly formatted. The one thing I wanted to say to you though is that I was speaking to some of the mentors and administrators and the latest information was that they would like the categories as follows for images which is why I was using them in this manner. I will post them below for an example of a character Image: Categories: This is going to be in preformatted for ease of copy/paste:

Licensing
This is absolutely of course just an example of adding the cat's and Licensing to Character Images.

I have a script that does this in the works if you are interested. The reason I ask is how are you currently making these changes. Have you created a Template or just copy and paste using an advanced Coding/Scripting engine or text/editor program. I am very curious.

Thanks for taking the time to respond. Let me know if you need any help or have some other documentation on this matter.

So long friend!!!

~Datalocust Drop_Me_A_Line|Wiki_Work|Visit_My_Page 23:51, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

That's Great! Thank you!!
You are the man, and I'm so thankfull for your quick if not even instant responses! Keep up the work bro! I am here to help and I'll do whatever needs to be done! I now completely understand what you are talking about. Here's what I have so far. Everysingle image gets the "Esimage" Licensing and even could get the "Screen-Shot" licensing. For the images, this is what I"m going to do from now on man:

Characters Skyrim: Character Images

Locations Skyrim: Location Images

Maps Skyrim: Map Images

Items Skyrim: Item Images

Books Skyrim: Book Images

Creatures Skyrim: Creature Images

Food Skyrim: Food Images

I think that is it so far if I"m missing something let me know. Only one last question do you have a bot, or a crawler to do these images listing for you? I would be SO interested if you did.. I was going to create a template with a radial button that once prompted would enter the licensing and whatever radial button you choose puts them in the proper image categories. Are you good with creating Templates? If so could you shoot me some information. I would greatly appreciate it.

ONE MORE THING!!! Great job so far man!!

~Datalocust Drop_Me_A_Line|Wiki_Work|Visit_My_Page 00:19, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Better Explanation (Sorry for any Confusion)
I have been working on several templates that will automatically add all of the information as discussed above. These templates are finished and just have to be selected through the visual editor, or typed directly in the Source editor. They add licensing and Categories dependant on the Template chosen. Great way to speed things up.

I have been working on the conditional statements in Templates so that it will be abl to take both user input and the ability to retrieve information for defined variables based on predefined elements from other sources. For the sake of confusion, which I can cause alot.. (lol) Here is a quick view of a radial choice display (Imagine that each bullet is a clickable radial that fills in when clicked:


 * Books- Skyrim: Book Images
 * Characters- Skyrim: Character Images
 * Creatures- Skyrim: Creature Images
 * Food- Skyrim: Food Images

When adding an image you would be prompted to fill in the radial button that best describes your image. This would then trigger a pre-defined javascript function that would add the Licensing and Category information specifically. The call to an include Template is set so just for fun check out the one just created Template: Skyrim: Creature Image]]
 * Items- Skyrim: Item Images
 * Locations- Skyrim: Location Images
 * Maps- Skyrim: Map Images
 * User Created Skyrim - User Created Image
 * User Created- User Created Image

I have a perfectly working script that works so far on my Linux/Windows Server Cluster which I create virtual server environments to test things such as these. I want to make some changes so that I don't have to edited the .js pages that are specific to the host server for this site so hopefully it will be ready shortly. I will set up a port direction and external log-in for you once I publish them to the Apache server to test.

I hope that clarifies a few things, sorry for being vague the first time.

~Datalocust Drop_Me_A_Line|Wiki_Work|Visit_My_Page 22:14, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Categories
Hiya Deyvid. If you let me know which categories we don't want used and which ones we do, I'll be sure to include the correct ones and save you the trouble of having to straighten up after I add pics. Thanks, DLanyon (talk) 15:35, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

Vandals
Jupp, i wish you would just IP block them for 24h '^^ that would at least make it a little more bothersome for them to make multiple changes without grabbing a new IP. Well, now lets keep the Wikia clean =) --Loonix (talk) 21:07, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

New Article Text
Hey Deyvid: That looks... f**king awesome. We already have one of those templates ready to roll out (skyrim Characters as a preload template). But yeah - that looks awesome! I really really like that idea! Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•Skyrim To-Do List 00:10, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

Vandalism
Okay, so I created the media wiki page. I'm not sure if it will work though (as they seem to be using a different one now? (the one that shows blank page and the default article-with-image one). Maybe once content is on that page, it will change over. Oh, and also, no, we werent using it, but lets start doing so from now, since thats actually a good idea :) (Also, since they're now banned, i changed the template to so I dont keep going to ban them again and again :P Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•Skyrim To-Do List 00:56, December 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * No, mark them with for now, until they're blocked). Vandalism is for ones that are banned or temporarily banned? (It was originally used for vandalism in the comments section of blogs). Also, sounds good with the template Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•Skyrim To-Do List 03:46, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

NPC Template
Hiya. I had added that line to the template to ensure that when the infobox is added to a page it will have a preset header sentence to denote the topic of the page. If the page layout is done properly, that would be the only sentence above the TOC, as everything in the actual artical should be added into the appropriate section. This would also bring the NPC pages inline with the templates and pages on the wiki giving them all a uniformed appearance. Check the ingredient and location pages to see how they look. Thanks, DLanyon (talk) 02:09, December 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey man I see what you mean and its cool. I just wanted to let you know why it was done.  If you've noticed I'm working on getting things more consistent and organized with the pages and layouts.  Yah I'm looking forward to your overlay! That should help with new page setup.. we still have a lot of work going back and fixing the current pages tho :) --DLanyon (talk) 12:07, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

Vandal

 * Sorry Deyvid - I was asleep at the time. They have now been blocked. However, if they truly ARE a bot-using vandal, unfortunately it is very likely that they shall be back again :( Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work•Skyrim To-Do List 23:13, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

Location Template question
Hi there

I noticed you made a slight edit to the style of Template:SkyrimLocations - specifically the border-collapse is omitted - I like it, but is this look that one we are going with for all location templates? If so we'll need to see about editing the other location templates for consistancy.

Also I was talking to DLanyon and I slightly restyled the Template:Skyrim_LocationsNav to look a little better? Any idea when and how this would be implemented on all the pages?

Jimeee (talk) 09:31, December 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * Heya. A question about the template change.  It includes the Ref ID and Base ID tags again.  I thought these did not apply to Location Templates ...Also, is this just a testing template?  We have been using specific templates for each specific location type: ruins, towers, caves, etc.  I like some of the new layout, especially the part for adding the pictures.  Thanks, --DLanyon (talk) 13:22, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

The collapsable bar is good, but in that example there is a lot of items that justifies the need to collape it. I'm not sure we have or need that many links in the bottom nav? What you think?

Also about the locations tempate. So should we be changing all the location specfic templates (caves, camps etc) to reflect the new coding and style of the one set in Template:SkyrimLocations?

If so then it will surely break all the images and maps as they links are not in the format.

Jimeee (talk) 14:02, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

IRC
Yo David, Elch here.

As you look set to become our newest admin, I was just wondering if you could jump on the IRC for a while, and perhaps stay on while you're editing, too. I can help you get a client set up, etc, if you don't already have one.

Thanks! Elchzard (Talking is fun.) 14:15, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

Location Location Location
I see what you are saying, we could add all the Winterhold Locations in a collapsable nav, but I worry it might look cluttered. Look at all the eastmarch locations: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Skyrim:_Eastmarch_Hold_Locations!

We have the Category:Skyrim:_Locations_by_Hold I made recently so we can include these in the nav we have now. For example the links at the bottom for each Hold can link to all the locations in that particular hold. (Eastmarch Hold Locations) etc. the link to cities is fine and should remain. This would be a separate page called "Skyrim: Eastmarch Locations" for example and it would list the locations BUT they would be split up into categories so a user at a glance can look at this Eastmarch page and see all the forts, camps, shacks listed very easily. Instead of digging thought the crazy locations page we have now.

For stuff like Category:Skyrim: Caves - My vision is another separate page linked from the homepage that lists all these things from all holds in a big master list. caves, giants camps, groves, all our location categories in list form - split by category. Right now the Skyrim: Locations page is too busy to find these categories.

Jimeee (talk) 14:20, December 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll jump into this conversation if I may - In my opinion, Category:Skyrim: Locations should be a kind of "parent category", having all the Categories like Category:Skyrim: Caves as subcategories, while containing no actual pages itself. Thoughts? Also, you might want to work on this here, and on that page's subpages, rather than bouncing ideas of each other on talkpages. :) Elchzard  (Talking is fun.) 14:25, December 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * I see what you mean about the list. Sounds like a good idea. So at least all location pages with eventually not be orphaned. That said, I added a table of contents to Category:Skyrim: Locations, which will make it easier to comb through the list. It'll also list categories based on the alphabetical letter clicked. Hopefully that'll help put somewhat. --— Radical D  (bother \   stalk)  14:28, December 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * "In my opinion, Category:Skyrim: Locations should be a kind of "parent category", having all the Categories like Category:Skyrim: Caves as subcategories"
 * ^^^ I agree with this Elchzard, and it works like this now, I believe - however my concern is when a new user is looking for info on locations, they are required to do some digging in the Skyrim:Locations pages to get to the caves, groves etc. The TOC David added is useful, but only if users know what they are looking for - the categories start at S! This is partially due to the unfortunate way we have had to name all our categories - Skyrim: . If we didn't have the Skyrim prefix it would not be as bad, but we needed it due to all the other pages.
 * All i'm suggesting is another way of organising all our locations so it's easy to browse through for new users - it's why I've been adding categories like crazy for locations. If anyone wants to talk further on a dedicated talkpage, we can I guess. Jimeee (talk) 14:47, December 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * Know what you're saying. And actually, we're talking about this on IRC right now. Wish you could be there. Would be so much easier. See, this is exactly why I think we need to add the most specific and vaguest categories possible. It doubles the changes that viewers will be able to find what they're looking for. For example, Cidhna Mine should have, Locations, Skyrim: Locations, Skyrim: Mines, and Mines. As well as whatever-hold Locations. --— Radical D  (bother \   stalk)  14:53, December 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm at work so i cant get IRC, but yes I agree. It's why I was confused when Timeion decided to kill the 'Skyrim' category - it didn't make sense to me why such a soild category was considered pointless. Especially when we have all these Oblivion pages running wild. Jimeee (talk) 15:10, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

Disambig
A tale of two Karitas. So we've got one on the steps of the Throat of the World and she's got a page already. Then we have the bard in Dawnstar and she needs a page. I don't know how to work the disambig angle so I'm coming to the guy who does. I've got an image ready to go, I just need to know what's next. As always - thank ya'! ~ Trippet (Speak/Edits) 22:21, December 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * Perfecto! Thank you. Now I can use that as an example of what to do in the future as well.  8)  ~ Trippet (Speak/Edits) 22:35, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Images
jpgs look like crap. That is all.

Photos
Yay I'm labeling them now! Boo I didn't realize how much I need to label! Having seen your edits on the Jurgen Windercaller photo, I have a better idea now :) Apologies for your added work, I am trying to cut down on that. Winnersusedrugs (talk) 01:16, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

i am sorry but i am not sure if this is the right place to point out something rather unpleasent i have found on this site. please see this link http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Vorstag

thank you!

Mrs. Babe (talk) 16:33, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

The gaps on location pages?
Hi there, remember we were talking about the gaps on some pages. I think I know why it's happening as i've been able to fix it on some templates. It's becasue the part with the info has linebreaks so it is upsetting the spacing. I changed that part to the on Clearings http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Template:SkyrimClearings so it's all on one line - and the gap dissapered.

However for I have noticed some of the categories are a bit glitchy so some pages are not showing up in thier respective cat pages - like here:

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Skyrim:_Dragon_Lairs

So i'll go through and try to fixed these for now.

You need to send me your email addy.
Hey man.. I saw your post about FRAPS.. Send me your addy and I'll hook you up...

Woops forgot to add mine here. Email me if you are interested in a full version of FRAPS.

[mailto:datalocust@gmail.com datalocust]

~DaTaLoCusT Drop_Me_A_Line|Wiki_Work|Visit_My_Page 23:42, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re:College of Winterhold
Yeah, it looks better now and anyway it wouldn't fit with the new quests infobox so it's much better that way, but i think that there are more side quests for the college not just those three. Vercinghetorix (talk) 09:49, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Very nice work with the template now it looks better and it's complete. Vercinghetorix (talk) 21:44, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Skyrim:Books Template
Just saw your addition to Alva's Journal and noticed the really nifty book template you added. I really like it! Im sure its on other books but its the first ive seen so far :) i noticed that the template nameplate has a weapons icon and when moused over it say Skyrim:Catagories:Weapons. J ust curious on if that was intended or would be changed to a book in the future. Thanks! :) Rorchak060 (talk) 03:36, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Skyrim category
Oh, jeez, sorry, I didn't know it. I just noticed that there are some badges for edits maked at Skyrim pages, and I thought that some creatures or items articles are obviously part of Skyrim game, but weren't added to Skyrim category by mistake or something like this, that's why I'm doing this...forgetting that I'm already done it...

Anyway - I won't do this anymore, sorry again.

Wharrgarbl (talk) 07:24, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Well, now I know it, thanks. Less problems for both you and me I suppose :) Wharrgarbl (talk) 07:29, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, I notice that you've done a lot in improving organization of pages in Skyrim, and was wondering if you have played Morrowind at all and/or have it. I am trying to reorganize the Morrowind Armor section, although I am sure that is not the only section needing a fix, and if you're up for it help would be appreciated. Or on any of the Morrowind pages. Thanks! Retardedmoose (talk) 16:37, December 25, 2011 (UTC)

Quest bug issue
Hey, I am having an issue with the quest Striking the Heart. I get to the Valtheim Towers which is where I was told to go to kill the Silver Hand Lieutentant. However, when I search the place he is not there. I had previously cleared the towers and for the life of me I cannot get the npc to spawn. Is there a code I can use in the console to spawn him? If there is I have been unable to find it. I even checked the other random locations to see if he would show up there but no luck. Help! GrandMoffVixen (talk) 17:04, December 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * Now I have a new issue. There is no Refid for the npc I need. I guess I will resign myself to not completing the questline and getting the ring of Hircine. Thanks for all your help. GrandMoffVixen (talk) 17:33, December 25, 2011 (UTC)