Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-25424906-20141016183510/@comment-6565193-20151201042625

Sothas wrote: Numbers don't start at zero. Zero is simply the smallest number, but numbers don't start there. Let me help with this by counting. 10, 11, 12, 13... didn't start with 0. How about 1, 2, 3, 4... still didn't start with zero. -1, 0, 1, 2... and so on. Zero isn't a starting point for numbers. Zero is many different things, zero is a wonderfully complex thing, but the start of numbers is not one of them.

And how can nothing be infinite? Look at zero. It is a concept and often used as nothing. It is absent a numerical value. However, when analyzed we can see that it isn't nothing at all. 1 + (-1) = 0. 2 + (-2) =0. 3 + (-3) = 0 and so on. Zero is the sum of all numbers. It is everything. It is infinite and contains all posibilities. But what Luffy is saying, is that NOTHING is infinite, which it isn't, it's not a set.

Hell, to go off of you, Sothas, [1,2,3] is infinite becaue it is a set. And it's true, a Repition is infinity, zero is just a number, infinity is not a number, it means all, essentially.