Board Thread:Off Topic/@comment-24.44.231.128-20131201005446/@comment-3076045-20140410143616

70.34.133.250 wrote: Morrowind. Dagoth's past, especially in relation to Nerevar(ine), makes him a more compelling figure in the game. It doesn't matter that he doesn't physically show up til the end because Dagon & Alduin are just as scarce in their roles in their respective games. That aspect is a wash between the three really. Dagon is a "god", and gods just don't make compelling antagionists in storylines imo. They just do what they do because they're gods of this or that "domain". Dagon is the lord of destruction, change, revolution, ambition, etc. So it's just Dagon bein' Dagon in Oblivion. Meh. Then Alduin in Skyrim isn't much different really. The firstborn son of a god "doin' what he does". I agree with those that say other than the fact that he's a dragon, he's just not very interesting quite frankly.

Dagoth Ur, however, is a flat out more interesting character than either. His tale is actually fairly tragic(UNlike Dagon/Alduin), and he was best buds with your protagonist a long time ago. Even tries to reconcile during the game. Too bad they don't let us choose to do so lol, but it's still a far more interesting dynamic between the protagonist/antagonist than Oblivion/Skyrim offer. I fell kinda BAD for Dagoth Ur. And Dagon/Alduin? Not even remotely. That alone makes him a more interesting character in general, and also a better antagonist as a result. Yeah, I'll admit, the first time I made my way up Red Mountain, I was like "oh, he's actually wanting to change his ways, and wants to help me." Then you get there and he's "Nope. Changed my mind". I felt a bit cheated by that.

If you play the game at face-value, and play the storyline, then you are left with the impression that Vivec is the REAL bad guy.

I do know that Vivec's Sermon's explain away a lot of this, but, then, honestly, what author when writing an autobiography (those sermon's are really just a Godly version of this) doesn't gloss over their negative aspects as much as possible)