User talk:EbonySkyrim/Archive 16

Bethesda
I have just been told that Bethesda is going to start selling some of the books found in the games. Can you do a front page news story on it? http://www.polygon.com/2014/10/21/7028363/bethesda-publishing-physical-elder-scrolls-books

Zu&#39;u lost daal. Alduin1996 (talk) 20:32, October 21, 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh, I just saw your message on Ebony's talk page. I made a blog post on it right before I came here.


 * ☞ Яǐɱ ( Chat with Meh ) ( Updates )   23:36, October 21, 2014 (UTC)

links
Hey, I just finished up fixing links for WhatLinksHere/The Horn of Jurgen Windcaller, but a few are on forum boards. Can you fix?

Also, in regards to the "Sovngarde" article listed above, simply click the Null Edit button to update the page (click the arrow next to Edit on the page and then select Null Edit): this is because of the template at the bottom not fully being updated. Cheers!

Edit: Could you possibly disable this abusefilter? It's very annoying and pointless, thanks. --SuperSajuuk Talk Page 08:51, October 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for fixing the links! Just wondering if we can chat about something on the wiki chat? --SuperSajuuk Talk Page 11:36, October 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * Cool. I'm on chat atm (only about an hour), but will be on for a while later. :) --SuperSajuuk Talk Page 10:15, October 23, 2014 (UTC)

just wanted to let you know and other stuff
Hey ebony just wanted to let you know that i added a clothing section on the dunmer page to tell everyone what they wear i looked up all the info and made sure it was corect and if i made a mistake just tell me what i did wrong and the other thing i think you should make a mournhold(lore) page also to add more to the vampire (lore) page because im not great a editing just yet so bye i guess,(Dragon Boy 252 (talk) 00:11, October 23, 2014 (UTC))

Books
Hey Ebony. I just had a couple of quick questions regarding book pages on the wiki.

Firstly, is it official policy for the list of locations for in-game books to be alphabetized? I've seen on some pages that they were listed in that way, but most book location lists are pretty random.

Secondly, when books appear in more than one Elder Scrolls game or DLC, are the names of the games they're in supposed to be italicized and linked to their page? Again, I've seen this on some pages, but not all. I know that the names of games are supposed to be in italics in general, but it isn't like this on most of the book pages I've seen. I just wanted to check to see if there's any mistakes in said pages. Thanks!

Atvelonis (talk) 00:35, October 24, 2014 (UTC)

Name color
hey ebony I wanted to know if you would tell me how I could change the color of my name when I sign it. you don't really HAVE to answer but I wanted to know so thanks MichaelTheAllseer (talk) 14:29, October 24, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Crafting
When I ended up cleaning up Crafting (Skyrim) links, I did find a Bloodmoon article, so there's a chance the disambiguation will be recreated in the future when Bloodmoon information added. --SuperSajuuk Talk Page 17:54, October 24, 2014 (UTC)

Lore pages
Hey Ebony thanks for messaging me back if you just look at the Nord, Dunmer, Argonian, and Khajiit lore pages you will see the clothing sections that i added hope you like them bye(Dragon Boy 252 (talk) 20:26, October 24, 2014 (UTC))

Some projects I'm planning to work on
Hello Ebony, it's me Rim. I plan on adding some more info to the wiki in the form of projects. I'm currently putting a pause on my Bloodmoon project in order to work on some simpler things.

Redguard project
We have a lack of pages related to the content of The Elder Scrolls Adventures: Redguard. I plan on adding more info to this category. I'll first start off with NPC's, and do books and plotline afterwards. I'll do this by reading Imperial Library playthroughs and watching let's plays. I will need a template for this containing race, age, and ID sections.

ESO Items project
I also plan on adding many pages for the food in ESO complete detail of photos and crafting recipes, for now my main focus is on ESO food. I'll do this via the info on Esohead and transporting it here, not direct "copy-paste" but reformatting it to our style. Sweetroll (Online) is an example.

Physical books
This is a smaller project, but we will need to make pages for each volume of the real-life physical books. They will have to contain preceeding and succeeding books as well as which series they are in.

☞ Яǐɱ ( Chat with Meh ) ( Updates ) 06:52, October 25, 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm getting the images from ESOhead, but I have to look at the items in-game before adding the photos just to confirm it. As for the Sweetroll page, before my edit on the Oblivion and Skyrim articles they both had this huge section about the easter egg. I decided to re-model the page based on the format of the Moonsugar page so that it would organize the game specefic articles.


 * ☞ Яǐɱ ( Chat with Meh ) ( Updates ) 02:26, October 26, 2014 (UTC)


 * I've reformatted the Dram page as an example for the future of each character page. I'll also add the category to each image. I'll try linking each image with it's source URL as well. The images are also pretty basic, not screenshots or anything which UESP often copyrights. Esohead's terms of service can be found here.


 * ☞ Яǐɱ ( Chat with Meh ) ( Updates )   08:16, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

Bards College
I'm so sorry, I meant to update those links but I totally forgot or got distracted by something! Thanks for fixing those, I'll make sure to update the links as soon as possible when it happens! :) --SuperSajuuk Talk Page

Thanks.
Thanks for your answer, sorry to reply so late, I haven´t open my wikia account in some time and because of that I saw your message just moments ago. :) Hidraslick (talk) 17:24, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

Chat ?
Hey, can you come on chat right now if possible? --SuperSajuuk Talk Page 18:09, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

Re: pagename
Only just saw this, yes I'll stop removing the pagename magic word from the pages. Also, the automatic leads require that as you can't subst'd it anyway. Sorry. :'( --SuperSajuuk Talk Page 09:03, October 27, 2014 (UTC)

Disambig
Then what's the point of me tagging the 2-link disambigs for deletion? There is zero purpose in me doing it if you want to leave behind red links in its wake, that is totally going to screw people over and result in the creation of duplicate pages or redirects. I might as well go through the tagged pages and remove the deletion tag on them if there's no point to moving them to appropriate titles.

If someone types Gyldenhul Barrow for example, they should NOT be sent to a "This page has been deleted" message: they should have some sort of text to display. I haven't forgotten the time when Deyvid told you not to go around deleting redirects because you don't like them, which is why I didn't simply replace the disambigs with redirects, because you'd go around and delete them as well as being "unused".

No offence, but just about every other wiki does not do this (I'm talking about the entire wikidom in general, not specific wiki's). Yes, I spoke to Ghost, but he agreed with my line of reasoning, because there is no reason you can come up with that leaving red links in place of disambiguations is a benefit to the wiki. Moving articles makes the average user more likely to read what they need, instead of wondering why there is no article about the topic.

I understand you don't like redirects, but I'm afraid that isn't an excuse that leaving redlinks in your wake is a good idea either, because it goes against the wiki way entirely and makes it impossible for people to find anything. You cannot assume that just because you put things in brackets that everyone else (or even passers by) will do so, you have to assume they'll just type the name as it appears in-game. --SuperSajuuk Talk Page 10:59, October 28, 2014 (UTC)


 * "What are you talking about? Leaving red links?"
 * I said that because you are telling me not to move pages into the removed disambiguations. That is leaving red links and deletion notices in its wake, which will almost certainly result in passers by to the wiki creating duplicate articles because they see that the article was "deleted". Not everyone uses Search This Wiki or the link suggest either, don't assume they do. People might search from Google, which is likely not to show the pages you think it might (Google tracks all searches so it bases search results based on what you search with).
 * My point is: if you don't want the disambiguations replaced with anything, don't delete them and remove the deletion tags. Deleting the disambiguations and then leaving them with a "this page was deleted, the log is below" notice is terrible and unprofessional. --SuperSajuuk Talk Page 11:57, October 28, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Reverts
Well, considering that you and others said it wasn't necessary and wasn't allowed, I was simply restoring things to the way they were, and it wasn't really feasible or needed to leave an edit summary for each thing. Plus there was already a discussion on his and your talk pages. It's pretty bizarre and hypocritical to criticize only me for something you guys do all the time. --Shockstorm (talk) 13:49, October 28, 2014 (UTC)

Banned
Hey

I've been banned from the Live Chat thingy and Wiki told me to confront an active admin and I already know some things about you and think you're pretty cool so I chose you. It all happened like this: We (on the live chat) were joking about how the new Elder Scrolls Game could be named. Then I wrote (no idea why): "TES VI: Jyggalagalagalag". So a chat moderator named "Divine Trinius" or something banned me from the chat. I've been kicked before, because I was using caps, and I deserved that kick but I think that ban was undeserved. I hope that you could help me with my lil' problem.

Farewell LuminHeavy (talk) 17:22, October 28, 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright good, I thought it was forever. But thanks for your help anyways.


 * LuminHeavy (talk) 07:48, October 29, 2014 (UTC)

Frostcrag Spire vs. Wizard's Tower
Other than more complete image coverage, to the standard of Battlehorn Castle, and not knowing whether the alchemy skill has another name besides Alchemical Brilliance, I am very happy with the article. Zeta1127 of the 89th Legion (talk) 18:40, October 28, 2014 (UTC)

Dwemer diet
Is the Frozen Mammoth a hint on the Dwemer hunting them in the past?

chat
Can you come in the chat ? i'd meed upir advices. Emperor Jarjarkine   Senate Hall  21:07, October 29, 2014 (UTC)

Okay
Ok then, i hope you'l be there later :)  Emperor Jarjarkine    Senate Hall  21:27, October 29, 2014 (UTC)

Patroller
Hi, can normal user nominate user for the Patroller rank ? Emperor Jarjarkine   Senate Hall  21:55, October 30, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yo I just wanted to tell you that today was my birthday :) Emperor Jarjarkine  Aldmeri_Dominion.png  Senate Hall  01:19, October 31, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah it was a good day ended by a great Pizza and lots of edits on my favorites wikia :) So, a great day :) Emperor Jarjarkine  Aldmeri_Dominion.png  Senate Hall  01:46, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

Re: MOTM October 2014
Thanks, Ebony. :) — Fire Wolf Pup (talk) 06:38, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

IP check for Crystalheart99
A day ago on chat, there was fuss over a user called CrystalHeart98 who came on, as there is already a user with he name Crystalheart99.We suspected sockpuppetry, but Crystalheart99 wholeheartedly claimed herself that she did not make the alt. Therefore, it might be someone impersonating this user. To be sure, I request an IP check.  Divine xXx|ⱩⱤ1Ṩ|xXx Tedrius  Summon me? 19:40, November 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * Seconded. It would take a while, but it requested, I could fetch screenshot style evidence of the two accounts being in chat RIGHT after the other. Why try? World dies, Christ hides, When Satan Rules his World (talk) 19:45, November 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * Not to be the bubble burster here, but Wikia won't action this CheckUser request as you need to have hard proof: almost all CheckUser requests are denied for little evidence. --SuperSajuuk Talk Page 20:08, November 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * Proof first image second image Why try? World dies, Christ hides, When Satan Rules his World (talk) 20:56, November 1, 2014 (UTC)

Some things regarding the wiki
Hey Ebony, thought I'd leave a message regarding some of the things related to the wiki.

Achievements
It appears that Arena, Daggerfall, Redguard and Battlespire all lack achievements. Only the games following Morrowind currently have achievements.

It is quite evident that Daggerfall should have it's own achievements. Fire Wolf Pup and some other users have been adding a lot of info on the game. Redguard appears to be currently worked on by myself only. I'm not saying that I'm the only one who should edit the Redguard pages, I'm saying that I'm currently the only one adding any info. Arena has the occasional contributor, but we appear to slowly be getting more and more info. Battlespire has almost 0 content. Personally I would make pages, but I don't think I'd ever have the patience to play Battlespire, so I have no affiliation with it. Maybe if we introduced previous game achievements it would encourage more users to add info on their pages.

TES Travels is something else. People have been adding info on it but there hasn't been much. I'm not sure if we should or shouldn't add achievements to this series. Then there's the books. There's only two novels but they could have their own achievements. Again, not sure on this either.

Continuation of IRC
This is pretty self-explanatory. I'd tell this to Timeon but he never seems to respond to my messages.

To go in detail, IRC spends a majority of it's time gathering dust with AFK users. We already have a built-in wiki chat which most people appear to use, so what's the point of IRC?

So yeah, that's all I have to say. I've put the Online project on hold and the Bloodmoon project has been helped by Ghost Anubis, so I'm currently working more on Daggerfall and Redguard for the time being.

Leave a message to let me know what you think. ☞ Яǐɱ ( Chat with Meh ) ( Updates ) 10:30, November 2, 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm not understanding what you mean, the admins can create new achievement paths, can't they? I mean just go to the left and click the personalize/edit button.


 * As for IRC, that's completely understandable. ☞ Яǐɱ  ( Chat with Meh ) ( Updates )   16:38, November 3, 2014 (UTC)

An Apology
Here, I believe I owe you one.

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Chat
can you come into chat now

I don't see you in the chat

Classes pages
Ebony

I made this page a while back because there was no page for it (obviously). I was looking at the other Daggerfall classes, but as far as I can tell there are no separate pages for all of them. What I found especially odd was that for some classes there are separate pages for them in all the different games, but for some there is just the one page covering them all. Should I make pages for all the other Daggerfall classes, or is it supposed to be that there is one page that covers them all? I'm more than happy to make pages for all the different classes if that is what should be done. Emperor Maximus (talk) 19:56, November 2, 2014 (UTC)


 * Any news on this yet? I've little to do at the moment, so I'm fine with being the one tht does all the pages for them. Emperor Maximus (talk) 20:25, November 4, 2014 (UTC)


 * There's already a page for all the classes (Classes (Daggerfall)). I'll begin working on it now. I think I can probably make good anough pages for them - I think I made a pretty good page for Sorceror, if I do say so myself! :) Emperor Maximus (talk) 20:50, November 4, 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm glad to hear I did a good job. The others might not be as in-depth, because I haven't tried out the other classes yet, but I'll do my best. If I have the time, I'l try and see if Arena's class pages are in need of work. If I have even more time, I'll try out the other classes, so I can make the pages better. Emperor Maximus (talk) 21:00, November 4, 2014 (UTC)
 * Can I create new pages using the old style editor? I don't like the new one. Emperor Maximus (talk) 20:21, November 5, 2014 (UTC)


 * I meant the source-mode. It's because of the new editing mode they've installed, and I don't like it. But it's okay, I worked out how to get plain-and-simple source mode. It took a bit of fiddling, but I found it. Emperor Maximus (talk) 20:27, November 5, 2014 (UTC)

Pages marked for deletion
Hey Ebony. I marked a few pages for deletion, but they haven't been removed yet. Can you please do it?


 * Forsworn (Character)
 * Forsworn Archer
 * Forsworn Forager
 * Forsworn Looter
 * Forsworn Pillager
 * Forsworn Ravager
 * Forsworn Shaman
 * Forsworn Warlord
 * Forsworn Briarheart

Thanks in advance. Serve Akatosh or serve no one. (talk) 09:20, November 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * I have fixed those links. Oh, and sorry. I haven't notice "What links here" option. Serve Akatosh or serve no one. (talk) 13:12, November 3, 2014 (UTC)

Ban time
Can you ban this account? It is clearly Jigsaw. http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Mug_4 Zu&#39;u lost daal. Alduin1996 (talk) 16:55, November 3, 2014 (UTC)

Durable Weapons
I was just wondering: was it you who created all those pages for the Durable Weapons? If so, thank you; I was going to make the pages myself, but it would have taken me a lot of time, which I don't have much of, so you have saved me a lot of hassle. Legoguy451 (talk) 18:59, November 3, 2014 (UTC)

New and questions
Obviously I'm newish. So new in fact I couldn't find where I put the question. My apologies.....sheez who lets riff-raff like me in here anyway. Lizardicus (talk) 07:15, November 4, 2014 (UTC)

Lizardicus (talk) 06:47, November 4, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Re: Durable Weapons
I am aware that I used the wrong template; however, this is because the "Oblivion Weapons" one did not appear as an option and when searching for infoboxes, the only one I could find was a standard infobox which I could not edit. In the end, I decided to use an items template, as that is the closest to weapons, and hoped that someone would sort it out. If you know any more about this issue, could you tell me? Legoguy451 (talk) 20:37, November 4, 2014 (UTC)

Deadric artifacts
I don't know how to make it go R.E. but I don't know what you changed on daedric artifacts but it wasn't what I done so you found something else I changed the azura's shrine so it was a link but hey this is probrably spam but thanks for reviewing MichaelTheAllseer 15:35, November 7, 2014 (UTC)

Main Hall + or - Cellar
So the last two/three weeks I have been working on the hearthfire homestead related pages and have now come to the Main Hall page and finished the Upstairs, Downstairs and Back Room part however it also has a redundant and unnecessary Cellar part when the Cellar already has its own page. Can I remove the cellar part from the page and just put a note or symbol like this (†) behind the cellar part in the structure part of the article. In which I then would just link towards it again. I hope I can go ahead and do this, since I already intend to do so tomorrow and unless I get a no from you I will go ahead and do what I think is right for this article and the consistency of the articles as a whole. Greeting, OPN OnePieceNation (talk) 20:30, November 8, 2014 (UTC)


 * So all this time I have been working towards a grand supreme totals for everything concerning Hearthfire, which is to say all three Homesteads, with all the different wings, together with all the exterior stuff and since there are three homestead the supreme grand totals while include the totals of the small house 3 times and the grand totals of the main hall 3 times. In order to make this supreme grand total I first had to make all the full totals and the grand full totals. Which I have now done the last one being on my User blog:OnePieceNation/Skyrim: Hearthfire, homestead. Supreme Grand Totals. since I could not think of a place to post the grand total of all the nine wings. However you might know a place to post the both of them so my question is do you? OnePieceNation (talk) 14:29, November 11, 2014 (UTC)


 * So I spent 9 hours in total yesterday and ere-yesterday on the All Totals and for now it is done, can you look over it and tell me if any improvements are needed. OnePieceNation (talk) 23:13, November 13, 2014 (UTC)

games in lead
Then why do so many pages have the exact oppose of the CT that I cannot even find? I don't even agree with said CT either, the game should always be stated in the lead so that people don't need to scroll down and read a misleading Appearances section. --SuperSajuuk Talk Page 15:36, November 10, 2014 (UTC)

Avatar
I think it is about time this was finished and implemented. With only 2 opposes in roughly a month, I think we know who won http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:795148#18 Why try? World dies, Christ hides, When Satan Rules his World (talk) 16:18, November 10, 2014 (UTC)

Trivia or Notes?
Another question:

At the bottom of most articles, there is a section labeled either "Trivia" or "Notes". On most articles I've seen, "Trivia" is used, but I've still seen "Notes" in some places. I looked at Wikipedia, and the articles I saw there used "Notes".

"Trivia" is way more common, but Wikipedia uses "Notes". Which one should be used?

Atvelonis (talk) 18:29, November 11, 2014 (UTC)

Chat Please
If you get a chance, can you com to chat please. I would like to talk to you.  revolveGirl God's Army 19:06, November 11, 2014 (UTC)

A disruptive user
Hey, Ebony. Can you please block this user? He has been banned once already due to his disruptive edits and it looks like he didn't bother read the guidelines during his "vacation". Just look at the edits he made in Choking Talons, Daedric Quests (Skyrim) and Merchants (Online). Regards. Serve Akatosh or serve no one. (talk) 20:53, November 11, 2014 (UTC)


 * Look at his talkpage now...Serve Akatosh or serve no one. (talk) 21:58, November 11, 2014 (UTC)


 * He deserves a permament ban. That was clearly trolling. When I was removing his edits I wrote in the summary that he should use sandbox for such thing. But he didn't listen and he kept undoing my edits and he added staff templates to his page; something you already told him to not do. Serve Akatosh or serve no one. (talk) 22:15, November 11, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Edits
I misspelled the catagory the first time, I was simply correcting myself.Gboy4 (talk) 21:43, November 11, 2014 (UTC)

Apps
Hello ES, i was wondering, how did you get the Aps for the TES ? i'd like to have one for One Piece encyclopédie. thx :P Emperor Jarjarkine    Senate Hall  23:43, November 14, 2014 (UTC)

Signature trouble
Hello, I am trying to add a request for a picture on the request page, but when I do the 4 (Visugius (talk) 20:17, November 15, 2014 (UTC)) my signature does not show up. Not sure how to add it. Thank you Visugius (talk) 20:17, November 15, 2014 (UTC)

Question about redirects
Hey Ebony! The "WereWolf redirect is only used for one forum post that died quite a while ago. Can this redirect be deleted? Thanks! — Likes-That-Tail  Need me? :)   ''' 16:43, November 16, 2014 (UTC)

templates
where can I find a list of templates like just wording because there are lots Skyrim90000 (talk) 22:39, November 16, 2014 (UTC)