Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-27157999-20160710144119/@comment-993964-20170209162742

Blademaster Jauffre wrote: Sports72Xtrm wrote: 1."Fate drives you, but you follow your own path. Choose wisely, lest you wander into evil." Jurgen Windcaller "My disciples still follow the difficult path - the Way of the Voice is neither wide, nor easy. But if you stray from wisdom then to Sovngarde you will not return." -Jurgen Windcaller "Sovngarde, Shor told him, can be entered by any Nord who dies valiantly in honorable combat."-Sovngarde, a Reexamination Evil men are denied entry into Sovngarde, thus Ulfric is not an evil man.

2.Well they have had their hands full with fighting the Empire meaning to subjugate them and the dragons attacking their holds, I think it's understandable if there is a lot on their plate. As for the Silverbloods, yes they got rich, their enemies were intimidated into getting them rich, and the Forsworn were their bitches. YES THAT'S WHAT I CALL BEING A BOSS, EARNING POWER. What? you think Mother Teresa is the exemplar of what it means to be a strong leader? No. It's the ability to get what you want and destroy your enemies.

As for the Ratway, nobody could fight there because lots of crazy people kill you down there. Why do you think Esbern chose it to hide. Thieve's Guild, crazy homeless, Esbern, if the Thalmor think they can survive down there that's on them, but they'd be dead if they went to the surface of Riften. 1. Lmao, no it doesn't say that. Just because he gives an advice doesn't mean you can't go to Sovngarde if you didn't follow an innocent life. Look at Ysgramor, exterminating a race or forcing them underground because of the actions of a few is not innocent, that's evil. Yet he walks there, all high and mighty.

2. So that's why you put up a military camp in Whiterun, which is a neutral Hold, and why you just let a Thalmor operative into your city? How does that make sense? So your irony, the Imperials are massacring the Stormcloaks; thus stronger, yet you oppose them, despite them being stronger. Care to elaborate why you cherry pick the strong? A good leader does what's best for his people, destroying enemies is a job for armies, not leaders.

How would they get into the sewers if not for the surface of Riften? 1.Sovanguard is the aspiration of every Nord. Doesn't matter if you consider him evil, the Nords don't because they are what they aspire to be.

2.I don't cherry pick the strong. Empire is weak and corrupt as fuck. Nords been fighting the Empire's wars for years. They followed Tiber Septim because his Empire kept the elves in check, their common enemy. After the Septims died, the Empire became two faced. Started letting Dunmer colonize their lands, even though they never fought for the Empire before. They let the Thalmor hunt their people unopposed. The Empire is weak. The only choice for true Nords is to fight them until they are no more. When the Great War starts again, they'll be fighting a war on two fronts.