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128.172.35.1 wrote: Sorry about that. I really meant that the Dro-Jizad is a Khajiit, & in the lore of the Khajiit, they can be very orderly or just the opposite ( sneaky / crazy thieves ). Also, the idea is that there could be a Tower in the midst of Argonia.

Since it would take place all over Tamriel, that would only contain a fraction of the factions and political groups trying to have prescence.

I do realize introducing new lore would take a plentiful amount of work, so I understand your point.

Excuse the confusion, I was just going over some details of what might be nice to see at some point. No, I know who the Dro'jizad is. Sorry.

And no, it's not because it would take a lot of work. It wouldn't, really, at least not the way I see it. (Although I may not be the best judge of whether something is a lot of work.) I can't allow inventing new lore because it's inventing new lore. Just brand new stuff with absolutely no precedent. Now, stuff that has evidence that could back it up, like the possibility that the Lilmothiit were named after Lilmoth by Khajiit who encountered them ("Lilmoth", the city, and "iit", those who dwell/activate in Ta'agra), stuff that fills in gaps or can be extrapolated from existing lore, that stuff is great. If that's what you meant, then ALL of the yes. But brand-new stuff - like inventing a new pantheon out of nowhere (although inventing a universal-pantheon-derivative for one of the more obscure races whose beliefs have not become clear - say, the Lilmothiit - is something that could or even should be done - again, totally new versus filling a gap) and suchlike...no. I mean, obviously we'll need new history, seeing as how this game is something like one or two hundred years after Skyrim. The idea is that the Civil War we deal with in Skyrim is the first of several skirmishes in which either the Stormcloaks come back for revenge or the Imperials try to gain control of Skyrim again (because let's face it, Skyrim is important! One of the most warlike provinces remaining in the Empire). Eventually, the Empire won. The outcome of the original Civil War is never revealed, of course, as it's sort of irrelevant in the context of its fellow conflicts of the same nature. The Emperor is assassinated and succession goes smoothly; this stays the same because the Dark Brotherhood always sends somebody, even if that somebody is not the Dragonborn. And they are relentless. So. Regicide. Wait, do they still call it that for an emperor as opposed to a king? -looks it up- Eh, nope, "regicide" covers any reigning monarch. Cool.

And yes, and Argonian Tower is possible. Even probable. Hunting down a detatchment of Thalmor sent to disable it without alerting the Argonians, while also yourself trying not to bother the Argonians, and hiding from the Thalmor, and making like Keladry of Mindelan and causing basic trouble with the Thalmor like interfering with food and horses. Sounds like a very fun quest.

TheMindOfMadness wrote: Is anyone even starting the foundations for this enormous mod? I have followed and contributed to this thread since its adolescence, and there are treasure troves of glittering gems of imagination. I understand completely if no one has begun the actual work. I am currently writing a novel myself, and I explained away the five months of delaying starting it as "planning." I was overwhelmed with the sheer impossibility of the task before me that I was scared out of my mind. But once I started, the rest was easy. I am here to say that, through determination, strength of will, and patience, we can do this. I believe in all of you. Well, I'm not a modder. I wish I was, hence things like this thread; but I do not have Skyrim on PC. I am a PS3 player. However, I live in firm hope that one godd*mn day, I will acquire Skyrim for PC, and a PC that can run it, and mod my happy little heart out. One day. And let's be very honest here, this thing is going to take a while of planning. And of course, I'm sure there are some modders on this thread who might work on it, and then perhaps in my paradisical future of Skyrim modding, I could join in. This is all in the theoretical.

Spidermanfromthe60s wrote: i had an idea for goldbrand....

after you get gold brand you hear...voices..only if you equip it..and they can randomly appeer...

the voice says things like

i hunger for blood..,

i want to burn flesh....

i want to cut througth guts....

i want you to use me....

release me......

i want the souls of the inocennt...

a week after getting the sword a guy will come and ask you to go to a tempel...there you meet a rouge priest of bohetia who tells you that the guy who was supossed to protect the dragons with this sword was a altmoran once known as " the golden knight"

he was the strongest knight at the time and belonged to the dragon cult and was a guardians of the dov. even if he was strong he had trouble protecting the dragons and made a deal with bohetia...she/he gives him the sword and hed need to kill a few people in horrible manners....after that the sword made him a power-hungry mad man and he "killed" 2 dragons....the cult was following him and he prayed to bohetian to make him invincible...so she/he "hide" him into the sword...making it stronger

now you have 4 options...

1.go and keep the sword...

2: kill the priest and bohetia will put him into the sword making it stronger and the voice stops...

3: do a ritual which will actully make the golden kniht come out of the sword and youd have to kill him and you destroyed goldbrand...but youl get his golden armor...

4. give the priest the sword..he will turn it into eliotbrand...( which is silver)....it will do less damage..but it will do more mackika damage.... Some parts of this are a little iffy, but it's a fairly good idea, with polishing. First iffy: Goldbrand does not work like the Ebony Blade. Second iffy: Destroying Goldbrand would be something like destroying a museum exhibit in real life. I mean, obviously Goldbrand sees a lot more combat than museum exhibits [insert Night at the Museum joke here], but the historical impact would be the same. Furthermore, there's no evidence that the sword actually has any constructional ties to Boethiah. It is hers, I suppose, but it's not like, say, the Daedric staves, or even the Rueful Axe. It's said to have been created by dragons, not Boethiah. How it came to Boethiah is a mystery. Furthermore, given the sword's recent history, it seems less likely that it would come to the BoJ in a temple quest and more likely that it might show up in the emperor's family. Which, incidentally, could lead into a cool Boethiah quest. Possibly involving the Arena. YES, the Imperial City Arena. And the current Emperor. The idea being that you want to impress the Emperor, and you want to impress Boethiah. You can fail to impress one or the other - say, by failing to kill your final opponent, you displease Boethiah, and she'll say you fought well, but not well enough, or something, and take away Goldbrand, but the Emperor will give you compensation in the form of...oh, I don't know. A title, maybe. A minor one. Or, more probably, gold. Or a weapon. Weapons are good. Or if you displease the Emperor but please Boethiah, by slaughtering everybody without waiting for permission from the top box, Boethiah defends you from the Emperor's displeasure effortlessly and then decides that you have earned Goldbrand. Or, you can please both of them, by slaughtering everybody and waiting for permission from the top box, and get either Goldbrand and some gold/a title, or the Emperor's weapon reward and some kind of blessing. Although the ancient Dragon Cult knight is still begging to be somehow involved. Perhaps that's the blessing; you can summon the Dragon Cult knight. Perhaps Boethiah acquired Goldbrand as an artifact because the knight turned away from the Dragon Cult, as you said, and went off on his own and offered his soul to Boethiah because he had taken such a joy in killing. And then when you summon him, he's a spectral red-and-gold warrior with dragonbone and ebony armor, and of course a lessened, spectral version of Goldbrand, and he constantly makes comments about how he can't wait for the blood to start flowing.

Runesfuer wrote: anyone remember my idea for the guards wh wonder why you stand in one place for 24 hours?

what if beggars did the same, like if you wait in one place for a long time, outside, they offer you their bed. Well, these are beggars, mind. I don't know that they would necessarily offer you their only bedroll just because you're standing around. But they might mention any places that have vacancies. Inns, abandoned bedrolls left by beggars who died recently, etc. Guards might offer money for an inn room.

TheMindOfMadness wrote: Runesfuer wrote: anyone remember my idea for the guards wh wonder why you stand in one place for 24 hours?

what if beggars did the same, like if you wait in one place for a long time, outside, they offer you their bed.

Along the beggar line of thought. What if you could use beggars as informants? Read Beggar Prince to understand what I mean. The Thieves Guild, Dark Brotherhood, and Morag Tong could benefit from this immensely. If, for example, you treat a beggar to a fresh meal and a one night inn stay paid by you, he'll/she'll give you information on any one individuals' personality and daily habits. And again TheMindOfMadness speaks wisdom! A medium to large meal, anything more than 25 gold (which I have estimated is a little above the price for a stew, some bread, an apple, and some cheese, which would be quite a big meal for a beggar), probably any kind of alcohol, if an adult beggar, probably any kind of trinket or keepsake (like animal tusks or claws, jewelry and stones, possibly books, maybe flowers, etc) for children, who seem likely to treasure that sort of thing, any item of clothing more expensive than what they have, or a prepaid inn room could get you varying degrees of information. Also, under faction creation, there should absolutely be an option to form a soup kitchen. It would fall under the goal "charity" and the profession "cooking". Immersive beggars. Yes, I like this.

- WorshipsMeridia