User talk:Shockstorm/Archive 3

Hey shockstorm, would you mind conducting an interview with me? We need more content for the Facebook page. If you agree, I will leave the questions here. Answer them to the best of your ability and copy/paste the questions and answers over to my talk page. Good day. --Madman97 (talk) 17:50, April 17, 2016 (UTC)

Portable Infobox check
Hello! I'm Isaac, and I'm representing our Portability Initiative here at Wikia. I know that we've talked with you a bit about your ongoing migration, and I was checking in to see if we could help this process on your community. I know that you're doing much of it yourself, but I also wanted to offer assistance if you were swamped with other foci. We'd really like to get working on your community, but we need your go-ahead. Also, if you have any questions, or this is the wrong venue for this kind of a discussion, please let me know. Thanks! FishTank (wall) 01:42, April 18, 2016 (UTC)

Legends Pages
Hey shock - small favour to ask. when you're adding pages for, is it possible to add a reference to where the information came from. It'll make it a heck of a lot easier for us to work out what is "officially" released info, and what is NDA stuff. (At this stage, the beta isnt up, so everything is from somewhere, but its better to be prepared now :) Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 19:27, April 22, 2016 (UTC)
 * err... yeah, you are. Sorry - saw your name on a bunch of Legends pages, and thought you were adding them. (I need more sleep lol). And I realised that a bit later, oops. I sent a message to him as well about it. Its not a major drama - but its something that we'll need to be on-point for later on when the beta comes out - because breaching NDA stuff is how we get our website into serious hot water down the track - if not from Bethesda themselves, but from the fans.

But as long as its referenced, it is completely fine to have pre-released content up on our website. (Its our defence to the argument we're breaching NDA if we aren't) :D Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 19:41, April 22, 2016 (UTC)

Idea
And its just an idea - I think we should have a pre-load template for the enemy decks or something similar. For example, you run into things such as Wolves, Goblins, etc, which are enemy decks in their own right. (The decks will consist of types of Goblins and Wolves, more than likely, but this is just an example - others I've seen from the screenshots on the legends website include Daedric Cultists, and other more sophisticated sets). what do you think? Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 21:19, April 22, 2016 (UTC)

Editing stuff
Hey Shock, mind joining chat for a second or two? Thanks.

Legends Races
They're referred to on the part of the card that holds their race. Other cards shown so far interact with the race on the card, so listing out the races as they appear on the cards has a mechanical purpose. Yumyum36 (talk) 19:51, April 29, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Top Links
Hey, I just got your messages about those stupid things. I had to take a bit of a break for a couple days. Anywho, i read that link that Renz showed you, and i can't really make out exactly what they are trying to accomplish, except possibly to annoy people with another one of their hair brained ideas. (remember the flags?) At least i know that we have to put up with that nonsense for a bit longer. The Cat Master (talk) 07:11, May 2, 2016 (UTC)

Both ways
Schock,

It has nothing to do with my behavior, Bronkiin provokes. I had already tried solving it on his talkpage but he didn't listen. So I went to Atvel, because I know how it would've went if I tried to argue with Bronkiin about it. And no, I didn't try to get him in trouble, I tried to keep an entirely legit edit, nothing else. If I tried to get him in trouble, I would've said something like Bronkiin's page says he's away yet he came back or Bronkiin refuses to keep my legitimate edit, remove his patroller status or something like that, but I didn't do that. I merely tried to keep a completely legitimate edit there.

Blademaster Jauffre (talk) 11:20, May 2, 2016 (UTC)

Ladles
Hey Shockstorm,

On the Wooden Ladle page you recently edited, what were the names of the ladles that you say are in the debug room?

Thanks! TimerTuna (talk) 17:37, May 17, 2016 (UTC)TimerTuna

Editing
Please don't revert my edits, I am merely removing links from areas they shouldn't be. like quotes for example. The imperial battlemage (talk) 21:57, May 17, 2016 (UTC)the imperial battlemage

Userpage
On the Wiki Activity I saw you editing my userpage. What exactly did you do? The imperial battlemage (talk) 01:33, May 23, 2016 (UTC)the imperial battlemage.

Lore: Image Needed
Hi Shockstorm, I was adding a few pics to the Ayleid lore page (following the image needed page). And I think no more images would fit anymore without clutering that page. So, maybe, if you guys agree,  the request page/link could be removed from Category: Lore: Image Needed. I couldn't find how to do it myself. Cheers AgentOfMara (talk) 21:10, May 24, 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks for reply. Will do. cheers AgentOfMara (talk) 17:02, May 25, 2016 (UTC)

Hey, Shockstorm I've noticed that you have taken down some of my edits and I'd like to justify my edits to you. For starters, on the Hammerfell (Online) page I gave Craglorn different Sub-Region names including Skyreach, Nedic Wastes, and Proving Grounds. The reason why I did this was to give the Regions a Porper name instead of Dragonstar Region, Elinhir Region, or Belkarth Region. I did the same to High Rock (Online) for Wrothgar. Another thing is, the Categories I've gave to some articles. Now to be honest I made Accidental Categories for Queen Ayrenn and Auridon but luckily those are gone. But I put Akkhuz-ri and Indaenir in the Online: Aldmeri Dominion category because they each represent the Khajiit and the Bosmer in the Aldmeri Dominion respectively. I hope you understand what I was going for and that you undo the Changes. Thank You for listening. Vincentius1 (talk) 02:32, May 30, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Nice Job
Thanks. =) Your appreciation is appreciated. Its easier to work hard when others like what you're doing. Leea (talk) 22:28, May 31, 2016 (UTC)

Names
Sorry for the mess, but I was told by another user (Ned1230) to not put the Daggerfall parentheses if there was not already an article for the object in another game. Is there a third member to give their input for a "majority rule"-type conclusion? The Boy Who Cried Godzilla (talk) 20:29, June 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * Alright. Thanks for the clarificationThe Boy Who Cried Godzilla (talk) 23:25, June 2, 2016 (UTC)

06:04, June 2, 2016 (UTC) I want to personally thank you for making all those edits, it's very fun to read articles about characters in Skyrim.

Virgar The Red
Shock,

I wrote it as Virgar The Red instead of Virgar the Red because for some reason her name is written like that. I double checked it, thought it was weird, but it's how it appears ingame. With The and not the the.

Blademaster Jauffre (talk) 20:13, June 4, 2016 (UTC)

I notice, turns out I was wrong, my bad in that case, thanks for the edit.

Blademaster Jauffre (talk) 01:29, June 5, 2016 (UTC)

Creatures by Type
This category was created so that way the creatures category doesn't get over overcrowded. Puting insects, dogs, undead and all of the others in the creatures by type category might be better then an overcrowded creatures category.

But like I always say I'm the outcast and being outcast means the world never thinks that any of your ideas are good like flick in a bug's life.

X-Mutant 3:10 June 7, 2016 (UTC)

Red Link
Hey there Shockstorm, the link was red when i looked, i wasn't just messing about :) AgentOfMara (talk) 11:33, June 12, 2016 (UTC)


 * Re: yep, and thanks for the infoAgentOfMara (talk) 23:25, June 12, 2016 (UTC)

Deleting My Edits
Listen Shockstorm, I just need to know why are you deleting my edits. I know I shouldn't have started that edit war with you regarding Alcaire (Online), I should have talked to you about it rather than posting it over and over again. And what you did for the other articles was fine, I don't ever care anymore about whether it's Sub-Region or Subregion, It was pointless to constantly change that over an over again when it really didn't matter. But after that, I thought it was over between us. But then I find out that you delete everything I did regarding the Provinces in Online, even though I made those initially when those pages were almost blank. So why, why must you delete those posts and why do you delete edits I make on them. Do you think my edits are insignificant to the Wiki because of that one incident. I feel as if you hate me or something and you just shut me up whenever you erase my edits even though the edits make since, Central Cyrodiil is divided into Three Subregions, the Imperial City is a separate Region in-game. I literally put those extra Subregions in hastily because my laptop was about to die on me. I just want to know why are you doing this. Thanks for Reading. --Vincentius1 (talk) 02:52, July 12, 2016 (UTC)

Dwemer Airship Plans
Hi Shockstorm, about the plans being unconfirmed in DLC dragonborn. Just did a little research, the plans do not appear in Dragonborn (99% sure), but an actual airship does. Maybe someone got confused. AgentOfMara (talk) 07:34, July 21, 2016 (UTC)

Books by Topic
Hey, can you link the page that has books organized by topic? I can't seem to find it. Thanks.

DarkVaultBoi111 (talk) 04:14, July 23, 2016 (UTC)

name parameter and redlinks
Hi Shockstorm, thanks for the message, much appreciated. I didn't get the redlink thing you talked about. Is it because the location's article of the redlink is missing? and there need to be one, (in expample you gave: there should be an article about Underground Caves, but it's missing), or... Do you mind explaining a little, that would be great. thanks a lot AgentOfMara (talk) 12:25, July 24, 2016 (UTC)
 * PS: i got the name parameter thing, wasn't putting it because many articles don't have that line in source, and i think i've seen some people removing it. And even when infobox templates are used, depending which ones, sometimes it's not there, but it always appears on the 'normal' page (not source). AgentOfMara (talk) 12:38, July 24, 2016 (UTC)


 * RE: Got it. Thanks for the info AgentOfMara (talk) 11:04, July 25, 2016 (UTC)

Re:Welcome back
Thank you, I'll try to help with those pages as much as I can :) Lin coln  Speak!  15:47, July 25, 2016 (UTC)

Categories
Hey, Shockstorm

Listen all you ever said to me was that the categories were unnecessary and redundant. You never went to full detail on why they were unnecessary. Legitimate was the wrong word it was that it wasn't elaborate but then again it wasn't a real answer to me anyway. And stop threatening to block me over something so petty as this. I bid you adieu my friend. --Vincentius1 (talk) 01:02, July 30, 2016 (UTC)


 * Sorry about that, when you said "If you keep this up, you're probably going to be blocked" I misinterpreted that as you wanting to block me. That's my fault. Also sorry if I'm making your day worse than it already was. But honestly, I think those categories were necessary. I'd put those categories in a disambiguation page rather then a page about a city in a specific game. Like I would put Lore: Cities in the Silvenar page rather then the Silvenar (Arena) Page. But if it's something like Markarth, which appears as a town in one game but a city in the other I would put Lore: Cities in the City Specific Page. For Eyevea, I put it in the Lore: Summerset Isles Location Category because it only appears in ESO. If a new game that is set in the Summerset Isles comes out and Eyevea appears again then I'll delete the category and put in the disambiguation page. I understand the rules now and I won't do it again but I still believe that they belong there. I hope you see my point and I'm sorry for being a jerk. --Vincentius1 (talk) 13:07, July 30, 2016 (UTC)

Test edit

Books (Online)
Hey Shock, what do you think we should do about the slow loading times on Books (Online)? I was thinking we could split up the list content into templates (maybe 3, or 9 or something) and put those on the page? —Atvelonis (talk) 22:19, August 13, 2016 (UTC)

Images
thanks for supporting, though most of the poor quality images are without clear explanation why. --Rupuzioks (talk) 20:30, August 15, 2016 (UTC)
 * I mean images already uploaded by others and tagged as low quality without explanation. Some of them I can guess why are they tagged, so I am uploading only those. --Rupuzioks (talk) 21:01, August 15, 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, most of the time I know what's wrong with the image, but after checking the page where it's posted, I can see that only without the context it's wrong, so then I leave it unchanged. --Rupuzioks (talk) 21:21, August 15, 2016 (UTC)

Hi
lol, I didn't know what the 'nice work!' link was, so i clicked to see. Thanks for yours AgentOfMara (talk) 13:36, August 23, 2016 (UTC)

Edit Count
C'mon man - you have nearly overtaken me ...keep going! :P Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 16:52, September 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * No seriously ... you need to overtake me, because you're our wiki's only hope of ever catching up to Js :P (I have a full time job, and kids, so I have no chance of keeping pace with him, yet alone catching up to him). Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 17:09, September 7, 2016 (UTC)

Editing Morrowind Ingredients
Hello, I started to fix links for the effects of Morrowind ingredients, but somehow now the infobox causing ref error:

Cite error: tags exist, but no tag was found

Maybe you know what could cause this. --Rupuzioks (talk) 07:38, September 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * Ok, then I'll stop replacing refs template with ==References== tag. My guess is that infobox somehow is picking the refs from redirect link at Fortify Attribute (Morrowind). --Rupuzioks (talk) 07:51, September 11, 2016 (UTC)

Oblivion
Please come to chat, I have a question on an Oblivion article. Qahnaarin1997 (talk) 04:12, September 22, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Disease pages
That is a great idea, also personally I think powers and abilities should be split as well. And good to see you fixing remaining links for fortify and drain pages, I was planning to fix them later. --Rupuzioks (talk) 07:38, September 25, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks
Just wanted to pop by to say thanks for fixing this. You make me feel quite clever.

All jokes aside, thanks though. Was going to mention it to Flightmare eventually because I thought it was a mediawiki thing, but nope.

Re: Free cat delivery
If I were to get a dog, It would probably one of those. They are quite majestic looking. Anywho, thank you. I guess 20K edits isn't too shabby for only 1-1/2 years of dedicated editing. The Cat Master (talk) 21:36, September 29, 2016 (UTC)

Oblivion Jewelry Images category
Hey Shock,

I uploaded a couple of images for those jewelry pages you created, but I can't seem to find the appropriate category for them. Do you happen to know if there even is a category for Oblivion jewelry images?

 —CarloV3r    Talk      /Contributions    19:14, September 30, 2016 (UTC)


 * Awesome, muchas gracias señor Shockstorm.
 *  —CarloV3r    Talk      /Contributions    19:27, September 30, 2016 (UTC)

Edits
You have until the end of the month to overtake me :P Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 11:34, October 1, 2016 (UTC)

Re: jewelry categories
Phew! Thanks a lot Shock! what a relief AgentOfMara (talk) 18:13, October 1, 2016 (UTC)

:(


 —Carlo   ( Talk      /Contributions)    14:40, November 17, 2016 (UTC)

Welcome back
Hei Shockstorm. Long time no see. Welcome back! The Cat Master (talk) 04:53, June 18, 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks, good to be back :) --Shockstorm (talk) 04:54, June 18, 2017 (UTC)

Berne Clan
Wait, what? Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 03:06, June 20, 2017 (UTC)
 * No, i found it amusing lol. And... who, Trumble? Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 03:19, June 20, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Badges
Yeah, I've been thinking about adding more interesting badge pictures recently. The Russian Wiki's solution is pretty cool, perhaps we could do something similar. —Atvelonis (talk) 14:09, June 20, 2017 (UTC)

Ohii !
So do I Shocky ! So do I !! <33 --Emperor Jarjarkine (chat with meh) 18:01, July 15, 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah sure thing man ! I'll try to ! I'm trying to comeback on wikia (on my frenchies wikis ehehe) --Emperor Jarjarkine (chat with meh) 15:00, July 16, 2017 (UTC)

Lore categories
I think it would actually be better to leave the lore categories with the prefix. While one can assume that anything without a prefix in the category name is something in the lore, this is not necessarily a conclusion that a new editor or reader would make (and it's inconsistent with the rest of our categories). So, rather than being filled with a couple miscellaneous articles, the main "Jarls" category (or whatever) would be a hub for the subcategories (Skyrim and lore, in this case), which is a little more organized and easier to digest. —Atvelonis (talk) 22:32, July 26, 2017 (UTC)
 * We've been getting rid of them cuz a) most of them aren't even real categories, b) it leads to redundant categories, c) creates pointless amounts of segmentation, and d) was done by without any consultation whatsoever with the rest of the wiki (and didn't even bother to finish the job). So we're simply reverting the mess, just like we would with any other new editor who tries to add pointless categories on a whim (ie some anon adds "Lydia XDD" to a Skyrim character category)
 * Also thanks for the edit conflicts but it's not inconsistent, I think that would be obvious --Shockstorm (talk) 22:38, July 26, 2017 (UTC)

Pages
They had the wrong ratio, which was then fixed up after-the-fact. The tag wasnt removed after being fixed. Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 21:38, August 25, 2017 (UTC)
 * An addendum - if one of the major reasons was the images not being EXACTLY the correct ratio, at least you guys could adhere to the actual policies of the wiki. File size isnt correct ratio. Rightly or wrongly, pixels arent exact, and the template should be there.

So either rules matter, or they don't. Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 21:46, August 25, 2017 (UTC)


 * l000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000l --Shockstorm (talk) 22:02, August 25, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Question
Seriously, Shock? That's one of the most disrespectful messages I've ever read coming from you. If I were less personally supportive of free speech you would probably have been blocked by now, because you have clearly not been following the wiki's etiquette guidelines for the past month. This outburst alone is worthy of a block given how disruptive your recent comments have been. Consider this an official warning: if you continue this pattern of blatantly offensive and intemperate conduct on the wiki, you will be blocked.

I'm still very busy, which is why I've been making a few edits a day, not a few hundred. Even though I can't focus all of my attention here, I have some time to edit during my lunch break and after I get home. I have today and Friday off, which is why I spent some time doing bot work and locked Tim's talk page yesterday evening. The latter was a good idea regardless of Tim's request, considering the provocative messages that you have already sent him (he is unable to reply, and giving him that ability would only make the situation worse). I agree with the meaning behind your messages there, but certainly not the way you're getting your points across.

For the record, I was in favor of the removal of Timeoin's tools, and I was also in favor of his block. Likewise, I am positive that Wikia is not going to approve the fork. I'm aware that Tim has been making "slanderous" claims about our wiki on other sites, and have already requested that he cease that behavior, both on his talk page and privately. I'm really not defending Timeoin here. The fact that my approach to the situation does not match up perfectly with your absurd line of reasoning is no cause for such distress. You evidently have a deep personal agenda against Timeoin, while I would prefer to handle this series of events impartially and without causing unnecessary drama as you have already done.

Unfortunately, Tim is in his legal right under CC-BY-SA to use content from this wiki on the UESP as long as he provides attribution in the form of URL or author credit. I was obviously irritated that he spoke to Ebony and Tomb about UESP editors their content (which was uploaded here first) onto the UESP, so I actually did something about it. I had a long conversation with the admins of UESP on the subject on the 18th, and they concluded that they would not be uploading any more content of ours in the future. I find it a little strange how you've suggested I be demoted for my actions in the past month, first on your profile and now on my talk page. Nothing I've done here warrants the removal of any of my tools: the only reason you're advocating for that is because we disagree with how to deal with this fiasco. I would suggest that you not make any more insulting threats like the ones you've made previously, because they are both entirely unnecessary and counter-productive to the further development of the wiki. If you have additional concerns I would be happy to address them. Thanks. —Atvelonis (talk) 15:27, September 21, 2017 (UTC)


 * I have to stand with ATV on this. He has handled the Timeoin issue well and he is doing a good job overall. Also, If you have grievances with any of us, please state them in a respectful manner instead resorting to insulting messages, or leaving snarky replies such as your response to the above message. Tim has given us enough drama already with his childish and vindictive behaviour. Please do not be the source of more drama. Consider this your final warning. The Cat Master (talk) 19:00, September 21, 2017 (UTC)

Expansion/rewrite
While I was in the Skyrim: Dawnguard Quest, Chasing Echoes, I came across a rather unique situation. When given the choice to become a vampire or become partially soul trapped, I chose soul trap because I felt it would be easier to deal with than having to cure myself of vampirism upon leaving. When I came out of the Soul Cairn and stepped into the world, I noticed that I had the vampires debuffs. I am unable to get dialogue options to contact Falion and when I attempt to speak to him directly, he does not give me the option to cure my vampirism. Also, the debuffs remain after becoming a werewolf. I just thought it was a good bug to add to the Chasing Echoes page. The only fix I have found has been to reload before entering the Soul Cairn, and try again. I'm probably choosing vampire route this time. ElRey81188 (talk) 17:47, September 24, 2018 (UTC)El-REY81188