Board Thread:Skyrim/@comment-12005676-20130724233542/@comment-72.94.21.217-20140409032001

99.234.132.62 wrote: ManyMasks wrote: Toralf Griffe-De-Glace wrote: Ok, so if they were invited, why aren't they happy with an area for them ! Because it's an awful place to live?

It's like the TES equivalent of Native American reservations. They were invited, but the local Nords - racist as they are - decided that they wanted to keep them separate from everyone else.

Besides, a lot of Dunmer (in the game) try to integrate with everyone else; it's the Nords who are keeping them from doing so.

This is a fun debate. It's a nice change arguing about racism in a fantasy game, instead of RL racism. :D Why would they try to integrate with the Nord's when doing so would imply they support them in the civil war? Integrating with other races who live in Windhelm is one story, integrating with the people who gave you a place to stay means that you're joining their cause in toppling the Empires rule in Skyrim. None of the Dunmer want that, hell, Ambarys Rendar is a retired Imperial Soldier. He still loves the Empire and has a literal shrine to its glory upstairs in his corner club. The Dunmer are still a part of the empire, Windhelm is not, what they expect does not make any sense. They have no place in the city, and yet ironically due to generosity, they do. Not ALL Nords are separatists. If they were, there wouldn't be the civil war in Skyrim; the Nord population would simply support the Stormcloaks. The whole Battle-born vs. Graymane feud points that out (as the Graymanes support Ulfric, and the Battle-borns support the Empire).

Really, though, it comes down to the fact that several of the races are mildly xenophobic on a general scale. The Altmer, Dunmer & Nords have supremacy complexes, the orcs distrust all outsiders, and the Imperials think they know what's best for everyone (though it's sometimes well-intended).

But if we're going to talk about who gets "dibs" on the land, it logically concludes that it goes to the Bretons. They were in Skyrim first, after all; the Nords are as much immigrants as the Dunmer.

In fact, the whole situation (loosely) parallels the US: the Nords are your typical white Americans, the Dunmer are -insert immigrant group here-, and the Forsworn Bretons are the American native tribes.