User talk:EbonySkyrim/Archive 17

Keys
Actually I was getting the info from the UESPwiki, I didn't realize I couldn't do that. Am I not allowed to use info from any sites or just sites like those? Visugius (talk) 23:38, November 16, 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright my mistake. Visugius (talk) 00:23, November 17, 2014 (UTC)

Picture
I added a picture to my personal profile page, but it made a who new page for it. I'm not sure what happened, and I read the rules and guidelines for uploading and tried to match the rules of licensing and picture uploading and I don't know if I missed something. Also I didn't know where to leave this message. I assumed you would want the questions here since you stated such. Thanks.ElderScrollsBozo (talk) 20:26, November 17, 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your help.ElderScrollsBozo (talk) 06:56, November 18, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Re: Missing locations/articles
Ebony, it's been a month and there are still locations missing. I am dissapoint. ._.

Owleero (talk) 23:09, November 19, 2014 (UTC)

UAM's Blog
I'm not sure if you or any of the other Bureaucrats saw UAM's blog about him leaving the Wiki and basically retiring his staff rights as he lost interest. Though we might want to wait until his 30 days limit runs out before removing his flags. 19:02, November 20, 2014 (UTC)


 * No problem. I actually just came by it today, I haven't been keeping up with the TES Wiki's blogs for a while.  20:22, November 20, 2014 (UTC)

Blocking
Hi, Ebony. There is one user I would like blocked: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/User:Soul456

He has came onto the chat and I banned him (You can see the reasons on his talk) for three days. He then made two more sockpuppets, and I extended his ban to infinite: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/User:Emerysfire, http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/User:Soul567

And then made another just now, claiming it was his brother: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/User:Theorcslayer345

He also insulted me on my talk, calling me an "asswipe". N&#39;wah with attitude (talk) 20:28, November 20, 2014 (UTC)

Candidate for deletion.
Hiya, Ebony! Some other user with authority will probably already have dealt with this problem, but I just wanted you to know about the troll article: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/The_markiplier_kingdom, which should be removed ASAP as it has nothing to do with TES.

Lazarus Grimm Send a raven!  21:26, November 20, 2014 (UTC)

Soul Block
Thanks, in regards to the other block, but here is another alt, made by him. http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Markiplier N&#39;wah with attitude (talk) 21:52, November 20, 2014 (UTC)

Arena Pages
Hey! I have wanted to ask you this for a while. I wanted to know what Arena pages you need help on? I actually play it quite a bit (nostalgia) and it is indeed one of the less-informed games of the Elder Scrolls Series. I would be happy to make/edit any pages that need it, Thank You :)

Pirate Dog (talk) 00:16, November 22, 2014 (UTC)

50,000 Edits
Congrats on the 50,000 edits Ebony!— AutoBlood  Talk  23:20, November 23, 2014 (UTC)

Plight of a Thalmor Spy
Hello Ebony, I have been trying to clean up some of the articles in need of attention but came across a problem, since the articles Template:Attention and Template:Attention/doc have examples of the template which cause them to show up as needing attention on the Skyrim: Articles Needing Attention page. I could probably find a workaround, but the page is locked to all but admins, and so I can't do anything. I didn't know who else to turn to, so if you could be so kind as to either fix the article or give me the ability to do so, I would be most grateful. Also, nice job on the 50,000 edits, I'm sure that takes a lot of dedication! Free MP3 Downloads! (talk) 06:58, November 24, 2014 (UTC)

edits
'Grats for hitting exactly 50,000 edits. :) --SuperSajuuk Talk Page 08:53, November 24, 2014 (UTC)

50 K
Good job for you 50k :P its just amazing ! Emperor Jarjarkine   Senate Hall  12:10, November 24, 2014 (UTC)

Why delete
Hey, Ebony, why did you delete TheDestroyer111's article about The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind's main theme, Nerevar Rising? Did TheDestroyer111 do something wrong? No, TheDestroyer111 doesn't want to fill your Wiki with hunks of junk! Maybe the problem was that that TheDestroyer111 didn't knew how to add a video, but such a responsible person like the Admin should be able to help poor TheDestroyer111 by adding the main part to TheDestroyer111's article! If you find any problems with whatever TheDestroyer111 makes, delete it instantly only if it is a piece of junk, but if it is simply an article that TheDestroyer111 should name otherwisely, then please say it on TheDestroyer111's message board so that TheDestroyer111 can fix whatever he did wrong.

P.S. TheDestroyer111 is a Khajiit, so don't worry about him speaking about himself in 3rd person. TheDestroyer111 (talk) 17:26, November 24, 2014 (UTC)

We need to talk about Skyrim90000...
Hey Ebony.

You might remember me from the RP stay/go thread, Harold Burned Mane and I are admins on the Elder Scrolls Sandbox wiki. We've recently had a problem with the user Skyrim90000, the user in question has been copying articles from this wiki and transferring them to ours, much to our annoyance.

The articles (All thirty of them) have been deleted now, after an hour of scrubbing but I assume that stealing content from this wiki isn't looked upon kindly. I felt that you should know as User talk:Skyrim90000 seems to have been a headache for you as well.

Regards Psychomantis108 (talk) 10:19, November 25, 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm not entirely sure what make of him but I have some ideas as to what kind of user he is. I've seen a number of users, like him, on various other wikis, who all follow a similar pattern. They could be the same guy, with multiple accounts, for all I know, though I doubt it.
 * They usually make duff edits, plagiarise, ask for a promotion when they clearly don't meet the requirements, add their own name to the admin roster and even going as far as to be aggressive or disruptive in chat, earning themselves several chat bans and wiki bans.
 * I've noticed that he has been banned on several wikis for behavioural problems, including most of the above examples, which also raises my concerns that he's a troll that uses admin lenience to get by.
 * The plagiarism was on mass as well, I think he copied and pasted around thirty articles onto the Sandbox wiki and it took the best part of an hour to remove them all.
 * I've left messages on his talk page, underlining the three things that he's done and told him that it goes against our policy to plagiarise and I’ve also warned him about his duff edits and empty blog posts. We've told him that any further mistreatment of the wiki will result in a ban. I'm currently awaiting a response from his end as I'm guessing that he lives on the opposite side of the world to me as most of his activity happens between 4-5AM (English time).
 * In short it's mostly been dealt with and I simply felt that informing the wiki that he stole the articles from was the right thing to do. I don’t know if there is a policy against stealing articles as there is against stealing content from other sites and pasting it to this wiki, so I guess it’s up to the staff to decide if it’s an offense here.
 * Anyway, just thought I’d let you know. Psychomantis108 (talk) 20:40, November 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * Saw this discussion and am leaving my 2c here, feel free to ignore if you disagree.
 * Copy/pasting articles is allowed under the CC-BY-SA license, it would only be illegal if there was no attribution given to the source wiki: otherwise, there would be no legal groundwork other than "it's frowned upon to copy another wiki's pages without politely requesting first".
 * In regards to mass deletions, you might find this script to be useful in future occurrences. --SuperSajuuk Talk Page 21:53, November 25, 2014 (UTC)

Tense?
Which is better practice? Using the terms "the player" or "The Champion, Dragonborn, etc" Pirate Dog (talk) 17:53, November 27, 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the answer!
 * May Talos Guide You!


 * and Happy Thanksgiving. Pirate Dog (talk) 04:52, November 28, 2014 (UTC)

To make, or not to make, that is the question.
I've added an unmarked location for Unmarked Locations (Skyrim). However, I was wondering if a page should be made for it? I've made an edit to Fahlbtharz on the The Grand Hall section. Here's my edit: "It is however marked on the Local Map as Fahlbtharz Grand Hall. Since it is on the Local Map and not the World Map, you're unable to fast travel there. The closest place you're able to fast travel to get to the Fahlbtharz Grand Hall without having to go to Fahlbtharz, is the Abandoned Lodge which is south of the location."  Now, since the exit lift isn't marked on the World Map, but is on the Local Map, do we make an page for it as an Unmarked Location for Skyrim DB? Deads26 (talk) 02:03, November 28, 2014 (UTC)

Image quality
Okay then, noted. I saw a couple people use it that way so I presumed that was how it worked. I've also seen a bunch of articles using the template.

I'll keep it in mind next time. ☞ Яǐɱ ( Chat with Meh ) ( Updates )   08:27, November 29, 2014 (UTC)

Reply
I do, actually. And considering that only one user has said that (the one that called you a bitch and said you should be demoted), I'm not sure how valid that is. People can check the hide minor edits button or whatever if they don't want to see my edits. Anyways, I volunteer my time here, and for you to try to tell me how to best spend my time here is bizarre. Not to mention that you change links to things like unused redirects all the time, so it's pretty hypocritical for you to lecture only me about this. --Shockstorm (talk) 19:58, November 29, 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, keep it up and there'll be even fewer editors. Didn't people decide that bickering over incredibly trivial things and not editing the mainspace was a big problem, and was driving people away? Looks like nothing has changed. --Shockstorm (talk) 20:42, November 29, 2014 (UTC)

chat
can you come on the chat? I understand if not possible, but would like to talk about something :) --SuperSajuuk Talk Page 21:16, November 29, 2014 (UTC)
 * That's fine, I'll be on chat until 11pm GMT. It's nothing too major though, so don't worry if you can't get on :) --SuperSajuuk Talk Page 21:20, November 29, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I noticed you came on earlier, but I had been afk at the time and only noticed because I left the chat open on my laptop. I'll be on most of tomorrow as well, so just give a poke via my tp when you are on chat. :) --SuperSajuuk Talk Page 23:06, November 30, 2014 (UTC)

Concerning the Media policy.
Hello Ebony! I wanted to upload an picture so I consulted the Media policy. All is understood except for Section 2, Sub-Section 2.4: Pertaining to the first bulletin, what does, "No renders of characters," mean?
 * Images of characters need to be an in-game screenshot. No renders of characters.
 * Images should be a full body image.

Pertaining to the second bulletin, can the image I upload include just the face since it is for my profile only, and not an article that will be used for information of the game? Deads26 (talk) 05:03, November 30, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Images
I know that, but I was under the presumption that Dealer.png was actually a .jpg, but with as you can see with Aspiring mage.png I uploaded a new version prior to my addition of Dealer Dawngaurd.png. ☞ Яǐɱ ( Chat with Meh ) ( Updates )   08:17, November 30, 2014 (UTC)

No Official Format?
Hello, so I was wondering.

Skyrim has an official format for weapons (Acquisition, Quest, Locations, etc.) However, Arena has literally no template format for anything. It is pretty much type whatever you want on the page which in my opinion does not look proper.

I am simply asking if Arena has an official "Article" format for Quests, Weapons, etc. If not, I think we should have one, it would make editing for me a lot easier. Thank you for your time, Pirate Dog (talk) 15:54, November 30, 2014 (UTC)

Letter from the Jarl of Falkreath/ Talk Pages
Hey Ebony! Thank you for the the two pictures of the letter on Letter from the Jarl of Falkreath. Much appreciated! Also, I've got the hang of the replying to people's Talk Pages ( :, ::, ::: etc.) So no more messed up talk pages for me!! Deads26 (talk) 22:45, November 30, 2014 (UTC)

Apologies
Life's been particularly difficult again lately :( Messed up my knee so badly that I was on bed rest for a couple of weeks. :\ Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 11:21, December 1, 2014 (UTC)

Re: welcome messages
Ah sorry about that, that was my wife that did it, she was just trying to help, won't happen again. Free MP3 Downloads! (talk) 23:31, December 1, 2014 (UTC)

New Chat Feature for Elder Scrolls Community App
Hey Ebony,

With the release of our new Community Apps, we are preparing to test a new chat feature strictly for Android at the moment, and we have selected your community to be one of the first communities to receive this feature.

This message is simply to notify you that chat will be going live on your Community App. There are a couple of things that you should be aware of concerning the feature. The first is that this chat feature is completely independent from the desktop chat feature available for the desktop experience. The second is that at this early stage of testing, we are not requiring users to sign in to chat using their Wikia usernames. That means that any user can choose any username they want.

If you do receive any messages from users who have feedback or bugs to report about the chat feature, please refer them to Special:Contact or the ‘Send Feedback’ option in the Community App.

If you personally have any questions or concerns about the Chat feature, please contact us through Special:Contact or the ‘Send Feedback’ option in the Community App.

Thanks! Nick 22:04, December 2, 2014 (UTC)

Quick Question
How does this look as a nav template for the updates/versions of ESO? Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 00:50, December 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * Um ... no, it really didn't. But that something that I am not announcing yet. To, well, anyone. And as for the pre-loads - well, not really. I was trying to get something (anything) to go right first :P Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 11:01, December 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * That's why all the posts for the past few days have been like that. Panic attacks, physical nausea, etc :( Not a fun time to be me really :\ Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 12:31, December 7, 2014 (UTC)

TESO Console Beta Question
Hey there EbonySkyrim (also sending out to a few other admins),

This is Jorge from Wikia's Community Development team. We're always reaching out to publishers and developers about potentially cool opportunities for our communities, as you may know. Recently we learned we may get a chance to do an exclusive beta code giveaway, specifically for your community, for Elder Scrolls Online's Console release. We were hoping this is something you and your community would find interesting and would be willing to promote across your community's article pages (we'd handle that part) and mainpage in a temporary module of sorts. This of course would only be temporary while we distribute codes to Elder Scrolls wiki visitors (from a week to a month, depending on what you all prefer).

Do you think something like this is possible? Got any questions or feedback?

Let me know on my talk page! All the best, Jorge (profile)•(talk) 21:50, December 3, 2014 (UTC)

Invisible Chests
Ok, thanks for clearing that up. It's fine with me if you delete the page, since nobody will be encountering it through normal gameplay anyway. Spawn of Dagon Himself Chicken 15:02, December 4, 2014 (UTC)

Just a suggestion
Hey ebony recently i have been looking on the uesp wiki and have noticed that there are more pages on that wiki then this one. So i have a solution to this problem we make pages like almalexia (tribunal) and Dagoth Ur (Morrowind) witch not only tells the lore a bought each character but their dialogue, attacks, spells and their items that they drop as well so i think to do this we have to play the games over again and record all their dialogue show what each protagonist did during each main and dlc quest (the hero of kvatch page is ok except for the part where it does not tell you what he or she did in both oblivion expansions). here is a list of pages that i think need to be redoing. Nerevarine, Last Dragonborn, most characters in morrowind, Hands of Almalexia, most members of house Dagoth, The veil of mist (sorry for that page by the way), Pyandonia, Maormer and king orgnum, The islands between Tamriel and Akavir maps of aldmeris, atmora and Akavir, The chimer veloth and the chimer race, The races of akavir, the elves of yokuda also known as left handed elves Morang tong, The island of Yokuda all of the protagonist of the series, the Elder scrolls (the artifacts), Most characters of ESO ( i know that its a new game so we do not have to make this are top priority) new images on most of the pages, the Numidium and the second Numidium info on all the cities on tamriel and such and better images and info for all the games main antagonists and supporting main characters.

If you have any questions just message me thanks (Dragon Boy 252 (talk) 01:05, December 6, 2014 (UTC))

Continuing just a suggestion
Here are some more stuff that we need to redo Ayleid race, Tribunal temple (this one for sure) Images for all argonian sub races, all mer races Architecture of each culture, East empire company, lycanthropes (new ones added to online), flora and fauna of each province, Farms and plantations of each game, all realms of oblivion, more info on daedric princes such as Peryite and Jyggalag,random encounters in each game, the people of Mournhold, shivering Isles Raven Rock Skall village.

Thats all k bye (Dragon Boy 252 (talk) 02:27, December 6, 2014 (UTC))

Locked Article
Hi Ebony, I was hoping to do some edits to the Dragons article but it's locked. There are a few spelling typos and grammar errors + I wish to add some trivia and new picture. Do you need me to add them here for you or is it possible to unlock the article? Thanks very much! Bluesonic1 (talk) 07:48, December 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much, all done! It was mostly wording and spelling but it was also missing a good picture of a dragon's laying pose- I didn't know they could lie down until I saw one myself! Bluesonic1 (talk) 04:49, December 7, 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, well that shows that the information was lacking on the Dragons article then, sorry for my ignorance on the subject ^__^ I hope though that my sharpened and up-close picture proves useful! Bluesonic1 (talk) 10:26, December 7, 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi again! I think I'm done for now, it's just that I keep finding new things as I play through the game. I think though that's a general issue for locking articles like that though- articles are never truly complete. But I will take that up on the forums topic that someone has already made about it. I'm basically done with the article so you can lock it if you want :) Bluesonic1 (talk) 10:56, December 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh I know, and that's ok, I know you guys are simply doing your job as per the current policies on the Wiki. I was just hoping to get the ball rolling on the forums to see how many others agree that the policies may need some tweaking in this case, considering someone started the thread about it a while back. Bluesonic1 (talk) 11:12, December 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * The holiday season is always the most difficult to get anything done in really. At least you guys will be going through it at some point, I'm still grateful for that and all the work staff put into this site! Bluesonic1 (talk) 11:29, December 11, 2014 (UTC)

Character Quotes
Hey Ebony, I've got another question (sorry I keep bugging you).

How do I make those character conversation things? You know, in the sections of some articles with NPCs talking to each other (e.g. Hrongar) there are those special dialogue... things. Are they templates or something? Or is it something I can only do in Source Mode? Atvelonis (talk) 21:22, December 6, 2014 (UTC)

Indrele Rathryon's Shack
Why'd you revert my edit to the page? The map image was poor quality, outside of the wiki's style, and the main image is also of poor quality because it has the UI in it, so I added the imagequality template. 11:13, December 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * Also, "Use of the Image itself", you meant the template? I've seen it used in various Morrowind articles, even some of the Seyda Neen locations have them.  11:14, December 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * Saw your message on my TP. I was unaware that Ghost and Rim incorrectly added the template to articles.  11:16, December 9, 2014 (UTC)

Re: New Version
It had a terrible name, way too vague. Anyway a lot of the images that I replace are jpegs, so either I make a new image or you are going to have to rename all of them to "image name".png. Anyway this policy is kind of stupid since it just creates more work for you. As an Admin you can go to the Unused Photos page and delete any of those once I or any other person replaces them on the article. It is much easier than having to rename every single image that has a terrible name, which 90% of them do. 11:28, December 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * So this is policy is in place because of the badges? Sounds like a stupid reason to give yourself more work, badges are worthless. They are the equivalent of your elementary school teacher giving you a gold star for being a 'good boy'. Anyway you want me to upload new versions of the images then have you rename them? For the jpegs too? That would also require you to edit the article to link it to the new image name, unless you leave behind a redirect. Then again that would create an unnecessary redirect. So in summary, more work for no good reason. But since this is the current policy I don't really have a choice other than to follow it.  12:51, December 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * Ok, I think I sort of understand what you mean. But first off, it is a patrollers' job to make sure stuff like images being removed by mistake doesn't happen. (Speaking of which, we still only have 2 Patrollers, we might want to get more.) Anyway here is my two cents about this policy: (I still not 100% sure if I understood the reasoning behind it so feel free to correct me if I am once again mistaken.) Two users work on an article. Who do you think deserves the credit? The first user created the article but didn't write any content, he just created the page. It also may have been named poorly. The other user was the one that added all the article's content. So, who should get the credit? The user who just made the placeholder article (page with no content) or the user whom actually added the content? That is basically what users whom add poor quality images are doing, they are making placeholder images that are going to get replaced sooner or later. The users that actually add the quality images are the ones whom I think deserve all the credit. But that is my two cents.  17:00, December 9, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Re: Quick Question
Thanks for the quick reply- only sent it to Timeion because I noticed he was editing at that time.

Honestly, removing the redlinks in Coldharbour was just a project I thought of as all the pages I'm most knowledgeable about are practically completed, but I'll hold off on it for now. This is what happens when I go AWOL for a few months, apparently I forget how to edit properly.

ParanormalAndroid (talk) 16:01, December 9, 2014 (UTC)''' Fancy signature? Not here, sorry.'''

Continent Images
Hey Ebony, a user just added three images of the Nirn continents:, and. They appear to be cut from the same image, this, that he likely found on google. I just wanted to bring this to your attention because this may be a case of plagiarism and also this isn't an official map so those pictures are the artist's interpretation and speculation on the continents' appearances. 11:20, December 10, 2014 (UTC)


 * I looked over the page, his only real contribution was a sentence that I now corrected and he changed the pictured used for Almalexia during ESO, which I left because I saw now problem with that. He also added a few links books down in the references section, not saying what they were serving as reference to, so I deleted those links. I tried looking up what they could be referring to but I found nothing, maybe someone else that is more of a lore buff than me can find it. Because honestly I am not that much of a lore buff, I may know quite a good deal but I don't know everything about the lore.  11:55, December 10, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Shadowkey Articles
Hi EbonySkyrim, unfortunatly I havn't been able to get any new information as I havn't played in years, and I left my old N-Gage back in America. I may be able to get more information next year though as I will be returning. Free MP3 Downloads! (talk) 22:47, December 10, 2014 (UTC)

Resignation
Hey Ebony, can you please remove my rights? I'm going to be away for quite a long time, and I just don't really see the point of having them if I'm not going to be active. Thanks :) — Fire Wolf Pup (talk) 04:39, December 11, 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm not quite sure when I will return. Hopefully it will only be a month or two. If that doesn't seem too long, could you please move me to inactive? — Fire Wolf Pup (talk) 04:51, December 11, 2014 (UTC)

hey ebony
hey ebony sorry about those maps that i added to those pages i thought those were real and that picture of almalexia it was a screen shot that i got from someones blog i hope thats ok k bye

(Dragon Boy 252 (talk) 23:45, December 11, 2014 (UTC))

Re: Template
Alright I'll try my best not to edit things that are already good.

LuminHeavy (talk) 11:07, December 13, 2014 (UTC)

TheWerewolfKing
hey remember TheWerewolfKing? thats me, my profile was getting hacked and stuff and it was really annoying so i just created another account. so can you tell the othrs that i am TheWerewolfKing but my account just got hacked? thx WolfHeartTheWolf (talk) 05:15, December 14, 2014 (UTC)

re: link
Hey, it's ok, I assumed it was just a mistake that had been made. I just don't like seeing links like, but since I don't have ESO, I didn't know if it was intention or not. Feel free to fix, 'tis what the wiki is for. :D --SuperSajuuk Talk Page 14:14, December 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * Valid reason, I reverted my edit. :) --SuperSajuuk Talk Page 15:15, December 14, 2014 (UTC)

Greymarch x2
Hiya Ebony! I just found that there are two pages about the Greymarch with similar information. The one with the least information should be deleted and then the one with most should be renamed to Greymarch (Lore), for example. Couldn't add the category for it though, since Wikia is kind of screwing with me right now for some reason.

Lazarus Grimm Send a raven!  23:56, December 14, 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes, that's the pages. Since they are both the same halfway through, wouldn't it be better with a merge or something like that?


 * Lazarus Grimm Send a raven!  07:30, December 15, 2014 (UTC)

Your 2 cents
As one of the Admins, I was wondering if you could weigh in on this discussion: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:812671  DRAEVAN13 14:10, December 15, 2014 (UTC)