User talk:TombRaiser/Archive 16

Missing images
Hi Tomb, I'm slowly going through the missing images section and I have a question if there is a need to have a page for all subtypes of certain characters. On the Character Image Needed page there are for example 20 different vampire articles that need an image of each vampire subtype. And there are several more, like the different Dremora types or Mythic Dawn types. Should there be one of each or could one list those on the main article about these? Then another matter, I saw this article Scourge Barrow, it has an Oblivion template but the link is to a location in Morrowind. I can't find it in the construction set so I guess someone added the wrong template? EbonySkyrim (talk) 22:38, June 7, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes.. ok, I'll have a look. EbonySkyrim (talk) 10:43, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

Factual correction: Big problem with Tiber Septim.
I have encountered what I consider to be a fairly large problem whilst browsing the Wiki. Whilst reading the article on Atmora (http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Atmora), in the article it states "Tiber Septim was the last purported immigrant from Atmora, who is said to have left the continent in his youth during the Second Era." But in the article about Tiber Septim (http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Tiber_Septim) it states "Tiber Septim was born on the island kingdom Alcaire, as Hjalti Earlyhe-Beard. He was brought up in Skyrim, where he learned the ways of the warrior and the strategies of war from the chieftains there". This was confusing to me because it states that he was born in Atmora in one article and that he was born in Alcaire in another article. I read on the UESP Pages (2nd best elder scrolls wiki) and the article on Tiber Septim on that site states "'''He was born in Atmora under the name Talos, meaning Stormcrown in the old Ehlnofey." This is a big problem that needs to be resolved! I hope you can fix this. Thank You TheAncientNorthWind (talk) 02:15, June 8, 2013 (UTC) The Ancient North Wind. '''

A New Cursor for the Wiki
Hey there Tombraiser! I was checking out some cursors and I found this awesome Skyrim cursor that could be used on the wiki. I don't how to use the code and all, try asking the admins at the PvZ Wiki, they should know how to work it. I'll give you the link to, just copy the HTML at the page if they've told you. Here it is.

Thanks if you consider using it!

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03:53, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

Online references
Hey Tomb,

I thought we'd decided that we need refs for all mentions to, like if someone puts it in "Appearances", we add a ref next to it. Also, if it was just me who decided, do you agree? :P

I've posted to Ufd43765's talk page because he's not adding refs to anything about Online, but he keeps adding back anything i revert. What should we do? Kroq-gar78 (talk) 03:48, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

Tiber Septim
Hi! Tiber Septim's history is deliberately vague. There are two histories according to the lore.


 * The one the Empire believes (and the one that is considered by most people to be Imperial propaganda) is that Septim was from Atmora and came to Skyim as a youth.

Tiber being born in Atmora is unlikely because Atmora was most likely a frozen wasteland as a few books mention. However it's still worth mentioning this on the page as the books mention it. He was the last purported emigrant.
 * The other, that was written by Wulfharth in the Heresy, mentions that he was called Hjalti from Alcaire, High Rock. This version is not promoted by the Empire.

The second story is much more likely. Especially since the Ghost of Old H'Roldan calls you "Hjalti". Both histories are valid and the article should explain that somehow. I planned to do it at some point, but.... you know :D

Jimeee (talk) 09:50, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

Removing Game
Hi Tomb, just a question. I know we started to remove the game from the lead from character pages so they get more "personal", and then it has been moved from info boxes, like quests and ingredients. But should this happen on all types of articles? Like locations too? I ask as there is one doing this all over now, but not always... EbonySkyrim (talk) 18:59, June 12, 2013 (UTC)


 * Just a side note, I'm not sure why the game is being removed from non-character articles. The reasoning for removing it from characters was to get away from leads that read like: "Neloth is a Dunmer in ." - which was terrible. I can see it being good for location pages as we would have better leads like "Halted Stream Camp is a bandit encampment located in Whiterun Hold" rather than "Halted Stream Camp is a bandit encampment located in ".


 * But for pages like quests, items, weapons and armor, the lead wasn't as clunky. I'm not a fan of it's removal from these pages. Jimeee (talk) 19:23, June 12, 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi again Tomb, I asked Jimeee about what to do with this "game in lead" to be or not to be. It is agreed on that it shouldn't be on character articles and it has been removed on some of the templates, but not all. There isn't an a agreed standard on which non-character articles it should be removed. He suggested that you, Kroq and Kenny could discuss on a standard as he isn't editing so much at the moment. It would be good I think to try and have a standard on this. :) I'm leaving this message to you all. EbonySkyrim (talk) 17:11, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

Daggerfall pages
The Daggerfall pages are in dire need of help. The download that the website has when you click on Daggerfall doesn't work because the game is meant for very old computers from the 90s. So I made a download that actually works, Easy Daggerfall Download and I was wondering if you could get it on the front page so everyone could help out with the Daggerfall wiki. Please help me And the Daggerfall wiki.


 * Hi, I was the one that made the Daggerfall download page, I saw the message that you left on my wall. The link on the daggerfall page doesn't need to be updated, that is the actual game, but you can't play it on a normal modern computer unless you use my page, I just wanted some more publicity on the wiki for it so people can start adding more Daggerfall pages.


 * It should still link directly to the official website and not to the download file, that way people can read the information on downloading Daggerfall from the source. It states that it is only playable through a DOS emulator on the official website. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  21:24, June 14, 2013 (UTC)


 * It must've been on their website before the redesign for Skyrim them :( Kroq-gar78 (talk) 22:20, June 14, 2013 (UTC)

The Elder Scrolls Wiki:Vandalism in progress
Hey Tomb, i got a quick question: Has the form to report vandals also dissappeared for you on The Elder Scrolls Wiki:Vandalism in progress? For me the form is gone. And I'm not the only one since one of our fellow users as also posted the problem on the talk page. 09:10, June 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't think Sactage is going to respond any time soon, so i think that would be the best solution for now. 19:32, June 17, 2013 (UTC)

Check ID and Harkon
Hi Tomb,

Are the ID's on Miraak (Mask) correct? All of them start with 00, not 01 or anything like most expansions.

Also, should the "Prophet" section on Harkon be split by quest? It kinda is just a big mashup of his interactions in different quests, but it's all listed under the quest "Prophet". Kroq-gar78 (talk) 16:49, June 18, 2013 (UTC)


 * Ok, I'll ask him. Also, I've noticed that almost everything in Category:Named Creatures is from Skyrim, and there's an uncreated category called Category:Morrowind: Named Creatures with one article in it. Should we redo these categories and add maybe "Skyrim: Named Dragons" and "Oblivion: Named Creatures"? Kroq-gar78 (talk) 17:57, June 18, 2013 (UTC)

Image Categories
I was thinking it could be helpful if stuff like "Category:Skyrim: Character Images" was categorized under "Category:Skyrim: Characters", so the images are more accessible. Same with items/locations/etc. Other wikis I've been on seem to do that. Just an idea. --Shockstorm (talk) 02:55, June 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * That's actually not a bad idea... Kroq-gar78 (talk) 02:57, June 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I don't see why not. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  03:16, June 19, 2013 (UTC)

Races nav
Hey Tomb,

The Races nav needs to be updated with Falmer (unless you think the Falmer shouldn't be there), but there isn't enough space in the "Mer" row. How exactly should I format it, or do you want to do it yourself? Kroq-gar78 (talk) 06:19, June 20, 2013 (UTC)


 * It's a tricky one to decide as Snow Elves are mentioned already under Mer, but technically the Falmer are a different race (albeit an ofshoot of Snow Elf, much like Chimer/Dunmer). Not sure if we should class Falmer under the Mer category or Other. (I wouldn't class them as a beast race, personally). Jimeee (talk) 10:04, June 20, 2013 (UTC)


 * Well, a Falmer is a Snow Elf, just like an Altmer is a High Elf. So, if we're not going by their common name in the Races nav, then it should be Falmer and not Snow Elf.


 * I know that the pages Falmer and Snow Elf both exist, but they really are the same race with different meanings. We know the Flamer as the twisted looking creatures in Dwarven Ruins, but if you played Dawnguard, Knight-Paladin Gelebor says that he would rather be called a Snow Elf than a Falmer, because Falmer hold negative connotation. He knows he's still a Falmer, he just doesn't want to be called one.


 * I think Falmer should be classifed under the Mer race, not just because they are Snow Elves, but because you are told to collect blood of all Mer races in one of the quests, and Falmer blood is one of them. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  23:51, June 20, 2013 (UTC)


 * Ok, I added it. Should I move anything else to the next line on Template:Races or leave it as-is? Kroq-gar78 (talk) 16:15, June 21, 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you ;) Kroq-gar78 (talk) 18:13, June 21, 2013 (UTC)


 * I was about to respond too. But, all done. :P — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  18:14, June 21, 2013 (UTC)

German gallery?
Hey,

Do you see the gallery in the infobox of Cicero's Journal, Volume I in German? Just the controls underneath the images, not the text in the images themselves. You might need to wait a few seconds for the controls to load. Kroq-gar78 (talk) 21:01, June 22, 2013 (UTC)


 * Nevermind, I fixed it. In the article preview while editing, it wasn't in German, so I just made a small edit to refresh the page. Kroq-gar78 (talk) 21:19, June 22, 2013 (UTC)

Authors
I was looking at the authors category and it seems that there are a lot of pages missing from there. Should all authors be added to the category, or is Authors enough? If it is going to be kept, would they be separated by game? Category:Oblivion: Authors is there but there aren't any others. 01:57, June 23, 2013 (UTC)


 * So should characters who wrote journals or letters be in the category? Kroq-gar78 said no, and I think no too, but Authors includes them so I'm not really sure. 06:30, June 24, 2013 (UTC)


 * So they should be removed from Authors if they just wrote a journal or letter? 08:24, June 25, 2013 (UTC)

New pattroler
Hey,

with be being borderline inactive, and the wikia needing active pattlolers, has there been talk of promoting Shockstorm? im in the CVN right now and he is busing through images adding category's to them. He has been here less time then i have, and he has done 3000 more edits then me.

Hope all is well, and please know i hate how worthless i have become here as of late.

-Cheatcodechamp (talk) 06:57, June 24, 2013 (UTC)

Image delete
Hi Tomb, this image is taken from the UESP Wiki. Miraak'sRobes. He says he can't remember he added it and it will never happen again. EbonySkyrim (talk) 17:26, June 24, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks...
Sorry if the replys a bit late (time zones and pop up blockers) thanks for the second offer i but i think the added presure of knowing i'm a mod and being kinda required to act would have a negative affect on how much i do on the forum. AzuraKnight (talk) 12:03, June 25, 2013 (UTC)

JavaScript testing
You can use Special:Mypage/wikia.js for future testing. This will prevent spoiling any global changes, or any possible breakdowns. It works just like Special:Mypage/wikia.css. Experimenting with JavaScript can be a bit more challenging and will often require you to copy the entire masthead page into your personal js test page. You can use my personal script pages as cheat sheets, or contact me for further questions. - Flightmare (talk) 13:39, June 25, 2013 (UTC)


 * This really doesnt have anything to do with anything, but I wanted to say hi to TombRaiser. Just because I, you know, can. 58.179.93.152 14:22, June 25, 2013 (UTC)

IRC
Hi Tomb, I'll try to be on. But the problem I have had is that it has been crashing on me so I never go on. And when I have I haven't seen anyone. Time is fine although it's late for me but I'm a night owl :) Must sleep now.... EbonySkyrim (talk) 22:59, June 25, 2013 (UTC)

Dragonborn to Last Dragonborn
I think Dragonborn is less obtrusive. What do you think? --Jimeee (talk) 17:09, June 28, 2013 (UTC)

SI quest line
Hi Tomb, it turns out that The End of Order is not the last quest in Shivering Isles but The Prince of Madness is. I never had a thought about it as the quest article was already there and I never paid any attention on the journal entries as they also where there already. But Mike.seeliger pointed it out here. I guess the person who created it merged the 2 final quests together as the last one really is the last part when the Hero speaks to Haskill to get all the benefits. All the other wikis have this as the last quest so it's a good idea to have it here too, so we don't confuse anyone. I'll add it and move the text over and I'll also add it to all the pages I can think of. EbonySkyrim (talk) 17:59, June 28, 2013 (UTC)

Shouts in SkyrimLocations
Hi Tomb,

Should I add a "Shouts" (or "Shout") field in the SkyrimLocations infobox? It'd be pretty helpful, I'd say, in all Word Wall location articles, especially the dragon lairs. Kroq-gar78 (talk) 17:20, July 2, 2013 (UTC)


 * That's what I meant originally :P Where should I put it in the infobox? Kroq-gar78 (talk) 21:17, July 3, 2013 (UTC)

Referencing Help
Hey Tombs! Um... I was wondering if you could help me with some referencing info? I've been going through and updating the Creature articles for TES: Online. Ive found them for most of the creatures, but I'm missing a couple of them. The ones that I haven't found references for are Draugr, Dremora, Imp and Skeleton. If you know any references for them, it would be greatly appreciated. Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 01:50, July 3, 2013 (UTC)

Talk page purging
Hi,

XRainbowniumx keeps purging his talk page even after I've told him not to three times. I remember you telling someone a while ago that you're not allowed to due to Wikia-wide policy. Do you remember where that is? I'd like to show him that's it's not just me if (when?) I tell him a fourth time. Kroq-gar78 (talk) 17:07, July 4, 2013 (UTC)

Expanded
Hello TombRaiser, I have a question for you; I wanted to ask an administrator this, so yeah. I was thinking about creating a new page for the Dark Brotherhood, which would be a lore page for the Brotherhood. As with the Blades there is a page for the Blades for each game in the Elder Scrolls series, as well as a lore page, so, I thought that a lore page would be nice for the Dark Brotherhood. Thanks. Chairmanprescott6179 (talk) 19:26, July 4, 2013 (UTC)

The Fishing Job
Hello,

Looks like I'm spamming your talk page now :P Anyway, I know you're traveling, but do you think we really need links to all the items on The Fishing Job? They all seem to be circular redirects back to that page. Hope you're enjoying ;) later Kroq-gar78 (talk) 02:30, July 6, 2013 (UTC)

Auto-Lead and Main Template
I saw that you fixed the page, Trolled Stormcloaks Darkwater Overhang in terms of where the "Main" template is in the source code. Shouldn't we change the Unmarked Locations template so a user can add to the lead? Also, this would make it so the infobox is aligned at the top of the page, and no text is above it.

— AutoBlood  Talk  18:13, July 8, 2013 (UTC)


 * No, because the lead will say the same thing in the begining anyway. "is an unmarked location in Skyrim". But what I think would work better is if the Main template for unmarked locations was also incorporated into the autolead. — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  18:29, July 8, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah, putting the Main template in the autolead is a great idea. I'm for it. — AutoBlood  Talk  18:32, July 8, 2013 (UTC)


 * Okay, cool. I'll change it. After it's changed just make sure the double leads are removed from the pages. ;) — TombRaiser  SPEAK!  18:36, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

Butcher and Bouncer
TombRaiser, I play the PS3 version, so I've definitely never installed any mods. I wanted to look these guys up after I killed them and Butcher nearly killed me. They weren't there. Thus, I made pages of them. Why don't you go to Cragslane Cavern and try to find out if they "exist"? (Bouncer and Butcher, I don't care about the other one).

Sincerely, Ned1230

Multiple followers
Hi TombRaiser, this is Harbingerdude777. I'm an expert when it comes to having multiple followers since I follow what Greed the Avaricious from FMA would have done on the game and also the quest bugs as I've been playing Skyrim ever since it came out on 11/11/11. I have great confidence that the info I contribute will benefit all Skyrim players if they so choose to have many awesome henchmen as I do. I will also tell of any mishaps and troubleshoots if I should happen to see them in my PS3 version of the game. Thanks for your time :)

IRC?
Hello,

I was just wondering if you want to get on IRC, since Auto and CCC are both on also ;) Kroq-gar78 (talk) 00:44, July 11, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Uploading images to the forum
Hey, TombRaiser, I know this may sound a little stupid, but how do I link images, and stuff like that? I'd like like to know. Thanks.Warriorcatkid (talk) 04:44, July 23, 2013 (UTC)