Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-85.74.137.231-20130605091958/@comment-3573184-20130816211204

Pink Slim wrote: 1. You're right on the first part, A good ruler wouldn't have allowed his men to die for no reason; and his family's inability to hold onto or even be on good standings with Summerset Isles, Valenwood, Elsweyr, Morrowind, didn't show signs of good leadership.

2. It doesn't matter if he knew whether or not the Redguards would be able to fend for themselves; he abandoned them(with or without aid in the form of a few soldiers at the end of the war) to die so they can keep the Thalmor busy.

it may have been his best option after the WGC, but his signing the WGC without trying to bargain for less losses is why he is a terrible emperor. No matter how hard he tried, he still failed, he should have never let any of this happen, and his allowing others to fight for him while removing the bulk of the aid that he should have given them is more than enough reason to condemn him as a bad emperor. 1. You are aware that Morrowind, Black Marsh, and Elswyer left the empire between the years 4E5, and 4E10. Which was years before the Medes took over in 4E17?

And you are aware The Thalmor had been rulling Alinor ever since the Oblivion crisis, which was before Mede took over, making The Summerset isles loss to them in 4E22 beyond Mede's controll?

The only province the Medes can be blamed for the loss of is Valenwood.

2. Well, he DIDN'T abandon them, and he didnt toss them out to keep The Thalmor at bay.

3. He didnt try to bargin for less becuase he knew the Ad wouldn't accept it, its like trying to bargin with Hitler, it doesn't work.

He also had no means of preventing it from happening. The Empire had fallen apart before his family got ahold of it, The Thalmor had been around planning a comeback since Tiber Septim's time, and there was no way for him to conitue the great war to the point of beating The Thalmor.