User talk:Hellhound43/Archive1

Thanks!
I really appreciate the help. I will try to remember talk page. Hope I am doing this correctly, if not let me know. I did read the pages on editing but I am still a little confused about where I am supposed to put things if there is no topic listed. Anyway I will see how my quest problem goes and let you know. I did read the book but I didn't get any quest update. I will try again and see what happens. By the way it's too bad you didn't finish Morrowind III. I did and it was really a good ending. I was a level 56 when I decided to quit. I did save my games so I can go back to it. I also looked through some of the things you could use help on. I am going to see what I can do to help update Books, and Flora/ingrediants. Hope this will help. I have found some of the books but I didn't write down where they were. Will have to go back and find them. Also noticed that most of the important books are purple(am I right?). Thanks again.--Midnight Mia 14:43, 27 October 2006 (CDT)


 * On talk pages new topics are created at the bottom, but that's ok for now don't worry about it. You may have noticed this but many of the individual pages for the flora (for ingredients) are not complete and/or are vague. Same goes with some of the ingredients themselves. If you have some time it would help if you checked out the pages for flora and took screenshots of the plants that are missing pictures. You can also fill out any missing information on the plants, such as what ingredient they provide when picked. The Alkanet page, for example, only has a screenshot and a heading. I'm currently in the process of making a map showing the concentrations of the flora around Tamriel, but unfortunately that will take me some time (probably a few more weeks).


 * As far as the book list is concerned, the best way to go around to listing all the books and where they are located is by using the TES Construction Set, as you can get a list of all the writings in the game from there, their contents and value, and also information on which merchants, containers or buildings will supply them. It would be rather time consuming and repetitive to write down the names of each book and then remember where you found them by hand from in-game, so I do recommend that if you don't already have the CS that you download it from this site. The program itself isn't too hard to figure out in terms of retrieving information, it's jsut when you want to make something new that I've gotten confused before. If you need any help with the program let me know. You might also want to create your user page and put a quick introduction to who you are on there (you can use mine as an example if you wish), or maybe you don't but it's your choice. Also if you're not sure how to use an editing feature on the wiki you can use the Sandbox for any test edits to figure out commands before you put it into a real article. Another good way of learning how to edit can be to look at the coding on some of the articles, which I found especially useful for figuring out how tables work. if you have any questions or concerns at all feel free to ask. Thanks Mia! \*\ Hellhound43 18:21, 27 October 2006 (CDT)


 * I made a list of some of the flora that I noticed was missing. Most of it I already have picked up so it should be fairly easy to get the pictures but then I will have to learn how to transfer them to the page.  I will work on it today.  I do have the CS but I am not really sure how it works I played around ith it but I really do not get how it works.  As far as a user page I think I need to figure out some of the rest of the thimgs first.  One thing at a time.  I am really new at all this.


 * Still having problems with that quest. Is there some way to delete just that one and start over.  I've got down to where I am supposed to go back to Thoronir with the book but when I do he doesn't acknowledge that I have any evidence in my inventory.  Jensine tells me to take it to him and he still doesn't acknowledge it.  Not ready to give up yet.  There must be a certain sequence that I just have not figured out.  On the main quest I just finished The Path of Dawn.  I'm looking forward to helping out. Thanks Hellhound43.--Midnight Mia 02:27, 28 October 2006 (CDT)


 * Hey take your time, and your welcome :-). You can upload pictures using the "upload file" tool which should be on the left navigator; we prefer images in .PNG format (If you don't have an image editing program that can convert it, you can just e-mail the pictures to me and send them back). And before I forget the best time to take screenshots in-game is after you have used the "tm" (no quotes) code in the console to hide your HUD before taking the shot. By the way, when talking on talk pages (posting replies like this one and the last one you posted) each person's reply should be indented one more than the last (unless there are too many replies and the indenting goes across the screen lol). If you noticed I indented yours one more for you to illustrate what I mean. I'll post the solution to your quest trouble on my user page at the bottom if you should ever get sick of trying to figure out what's wrong with that quest, as I'm not sure what else it could be. If you need anything let me know. \*\ Hellhound43 10:08, 28 October 2006 (CDT)


 * I'm learning. I am going to see what I can do with the Books today.  Also I have a picture of Ginsing but it is Yellow not Red like what is posted. Should it go there too?--Midnight Mia 14:23, 28 October 2006 (CDT)


 * Hmmm I think you should just add a note to the Ginseng Plant page that says that the flower petals may be either yellow or red (or any other colors it may come in). With the books what I was planning on doing was going through the Category:Books list and making sure all the in-game books are listed there. You can do that by using the CS under the "books" category, and then make sure that anything that isn't a scroll or a single-page type note is listed on the category page. If you find a book that isn't there (there may be a few) you can add it (alphabetically) to the book list. After that's done if you like you can start filling out the "red links" for the books that don't have articles yet and filling them in, and/or check each of the books that have articles and make sure they are complete. A good example of a book article is the book The Pig Children. Everything you need for the books can be found in the CS in each book's entry in the program. To find the locations of the books you can right click on one of the entries in the list and click "Use Info" and a pop-up window will list the instances of that object in the world (note: don't inlude leveled containers in the known locations, only one's where there is guarenteed to be a copy of the book). If you could work on those two things that would be great! Thanks Mia. \*\ Hellhound43 15:15, 28 October 2006 (CDT)


 * I have found a few Books. Not sure you want the Test books I wouldnt think so.  I also have to read more on updating areas.  Not sure if I am supposed to signature & timestamp.  Also I noticed that there are a couple of books listed that were not in the CS Book list.  I did find them when I went and did a text search but they weren't on CS list.  What should you do in a situation like that?  Thanks for the tip on how to find the locations I never would have thought to right click.
 * As for the quest problem all finished. I did try and go back but with no success. Went forward to the next stage no problems every thing posted correctly.  Not sure why it got stuck, I proably talked to someone out of sequence or asked a question I shouldn't have asked. Found the SetStage # looking in CS when I was around trying to figure it out.  This might be usefull information to others.--Midnight Mia 16:00, 29 October 2006 (CST)


 * I'm afraid you lost me about the areas and sig & timestamp. Which books weren't in the CS (give me a link please)? It depends really if the book is related to information for the game/lore of The Elder Scrolls. If it's a book from Morrowind for example, we could keep it if the book's article is complete enough and it's relevant. If you don't need my little help paragraph on my user page any longer please remove it, but if your not just leave it I won't take it off anytime soon. (You can take off the indenting for your next post, it is getting a bit long) \*\ Hellhound43 18:20, 29 October 2006 (CST)

I noticed that the book Way of the Exposed Path is on the book listing. I can not find it anywhere in the CS. Not sure what to do. I havent figured out about the images yet but in the meantime you said I could e-mail them to you but I don't have an e-mail address. I got a good one of both colors of the Ginseng plant together. Found it near Fort Magi.

Any of the above you think can be deleted go ahead. I am kind of afraid to delete anything from anywhere. Not sure how that works and I haven't found the delete rules yet. I made a copy of your user page as an example so when I am ready and feel confortable enough I can refer to it as an example. Hope that was OK? Hope I'm not being too much of a pest? I have a couple days more of work on the books to finish. When I go and do the update is that a major or minor update. also on each update do I put in Midnight Mia? What does the \*\ mean just before your user name line? Thanks again.--Midnight Mia 15:53, 30 October 2006 (CST)


 * The Way of the Exposed Palm is in fact a book in-game, as I just looked it up. I'll add the content of the book and finish the article. I don't know if you know how to "sort" a list is the CS but I'll tell you anyway just in case. All you need to do is click on the header at the top (for example "Name" or "Editor ID"). Lists are by default sorted by Editor ID. But don't worry about it :-).


 * If you have MSN Messenger please add me on there as well, it would certainly make it easier than typing out long messages in some cases. I don't mind that you took my user page as an example, and you certainly haven't been a pest, especially since you have contributed to this site. Whether you mark a minor edit or not is up to you; I like to mark anything on a talk page, category page, template page, or any small spelling or grammar fixes on articles to be minor edits in general. When adding to an article or anything other than a talk page no don't sign any changes or edits. The page history will show who's edited an article when, and contains revision histories as well to facilitate the ability to revert malicious edits from trolls and people like that (I just reverted a couple articles this morning and the anonymous user was banned (temporarily, in this case a year). See the page history for the armor article, for an example). The \*\ I use to sign comments is the same as your (and Spec's) --, I just wanted to do something different when I joined, as far as I know it just signifies the end of your comment. Feel free to use whatever you want basically. \*\ Hellhound43 18:59, 30 October 2006 (CST)


 * For the e-mail thing, I think they actually spell it out, like "name at hotmail dot com." That way, spambots won't auto-read it when they go through pages (except when someone manually reads it and types it in). Other than that, there's also the "E-mail this user" thing on the sidebar.


 * Midnight Mia, if you want your own signature that's different than the standard when you put the four tildes ( ~ ), put youor own wiki code for your signature under "Preferences" -> "User profile" -> "Nickname". That way, everytime you sign with the four tildes, it does your custom signature for you.


 * By the way, has the site been slow for you guys lately? I'd think it was because of the increased traffic GuildWiki, especially since Nightfall just came out. -- theSpectator talk 21:22, 30 October 2006 (CST)


 * Thanks for the tips Spec. Ya the site has been slow, and although I'm more or less used to that I couldn't get on at all yesterday =/. At first I had thought it was just firefox 2.0 which I just downloaded the same day lol. By the way I finally got around to starting that GIS map I said I was going to do a few weeks ago, i got a bit bogged down with classes (and still am) but at least I should have it done within a couple weeks. \*\ Hellhound43 21:34, 30 October 2006 (CST)


 * If you guys want just call me Mia. Wrote down the E-mail so you can delete it when ever you want.  I found the book must have missed it.  Thanks for the tip about sorting.  Do you have a tip on how to copy the terxt portion of the book from the CS.  It would be useful in updating the book info?
 * Thanks for the info Spectator. I had trouble getting on the site also. Got kicke off again today too.  Lots of people looking around I guess.  The other day I though I had done something wrong and been baned.  Glad to know it was a glitch or something.
 * I'm working on puting something together for a User page but it's going to be a few days yet. By the way it looks like the Book list is now complete just need to finish up on the rest of the info.--Midnight Mia 16:28, 31 October 2006 (CST)


 * Mia has anyone ever told you that you worry too much? lol ;-). To post contents of book from the CS all you need to do is double-click on the book entry and theres a text box on the right called "Book Text". Then just copy it (ctrl+c) into the article (ctrl+v to paste) under a ==Contents== heading and take out the in-game formatting and add your own (italics are all that's needed). \*\ Hellhound43 19:32, 31 October 2006 (CST)

Welcome!
Welcome Hellhound! Keep up the contributions and if you have any questions, feel free to ask. -- theSpectator Talk 00:24, 26 August 2006 (CDT)
 * A tip: If you would like to take screenshots without the HUD display or the NPC dialogue menu, type "tm" in the console (without quotes). That way you can get nice, unobstructed images of the subject. -- theSpectator talk 21:50, 28 August 2006 (CDT)


 * Thanks for the tip. I'm actually using Fraps to take screenshots since i've got one of those weird microsoft keyboards that has an F-lock key. It's easier that way plus it doesn't really matter to me if my HUD shows, I can just edit it out anyway if I want/need to. But I'll keep that in mind thanks again. Hellhound43 22:00, 28 August 2006 (CDT)

Morrowind
Hey, are you still playing Morrowind? I just noticed you had mentioned that on your user page. Do you think you could go over The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind and see if everything's OK? It's been years since I played the game myself. Anyway, I think the article needs a going over, since it's only ever had one contribution (and one huge, suspiciously sized first contribution at that). --Patito 09:15, 7 September 2006 (CDT)


 * Well, I'm starting to get back into Oblivion again, as I had to reinstall it but yes I still have my Morrowind saves. I'll start taking a look at the article. I just noticed that there's a deletion tag on it, should I just remove it or should there be a discussion on this topic? Let me know. Hellhound43 11:20, 7 September 2006 (CDT)


 * Now that's weird (it was added just under two hours after my post here), I don't think it should be deleted. An article on that game, and other articles on the other Elder Scrolls games should definitely be here, IMHO. I did find out where the text in the TES:Morrowind article is from though... :/ sadly. Not sure what was said the last time around about articles with the entire text swiped from Wikipedia. An admin would know. But bottom line, there should be an article about the other TES games. --Patito 12:44, 7 September 2006 (CDT)


 * So it would probably be best if I re-wrote it then, which is okay as IMO the article was kind of badly-structured anyway and I thought of redoing it entirely. I'll start working on that over the next week or two alongside my enchanted weapons/armor/items and finishing touches on Deepscorn Hollow. \\ Hellhound43 14:30, 7 September 2006 (CDT)

History
Just a quick question. When reading about the eras, have you come across the Interregnum? As I understand it, the Interregnum was the tumultuous period between the Second and Third Eras, but I'm not sure. (BTW, nice going on the Mod articles.) --Patito 15:49, 15 September 2006 (CDT)


 * Thanks. I did a bit if reading in The Imperial Library at College today but I didn't get that far. I'll take a look at it later tonight. Right now I'm going to start a new character and figure out exactly where the exterior cell with the 0,0 coordinate is and the average size of a cell so I can start putting a realistic grid on the map of Cyrodiil for my GIS assignment. \*\ Hellhound43 15:59, 15 September 2006 (CDT)

FA Image
Oo, I like your (Image:FAdraft.png) very much; I support it! I also suggest making a larger one, so that it can be on Template:Featured and on the top of OblivioWiki:Featured articles. If you want/can, you can also make it, but that's up to you ;-). -- theSpectator talk 22:38, 26 September 2006 (CDT)


 * Ok, I'll see what I can do, thanks! Expect something new within the next hour. EDIT: Fark, why did I have to overwrite my project file when I resized the original image by 50%... LOL *smacks self*. \*\ Hellhound43 22:46, 26 September 2006 (CDT)

FAC and Collaboration image
Great job with the FA image! If you're up for the task, could you make something for the Featured article candidate template? Perhaps the letter F with a partial A or something (a la ).

And if it's not too much to ask ;-), perhaps an idea for the OblivioWiki:Collaborations article, or should we stick with the Oht image? Thanks, -- theSpectator talk 21:12, 27 September 2006 (CDT)


 * Of course I can, I just thought of something good to do with the FA-C I think, and thanks. I probably won't have the image until Friday night though. As far as the collaborations go I don't have any ideas at the moment, so for now we might as well use the oht.png image. I'll start brainstorming on it soon though. If you have any ideas post them here for me. \*\ Hellhound43 21:26, 27 September 2006 (CDT)


 * Been thinking about the collaboration image. I was thinking we could use an open Oblivion Gate for candidate articles, and a closed gate for approved collaborations. What do you think? I could take a pic of a Gate from in-game and then just edit out the portal to make an "empty" gate. \*\ Hellhound43 21:14, 28 September 2006 (CDT)

Spell creation
If you create your own custom spell, say, 6 Frost Shield / 6 Fire Shield, can you then enchant an item with that new custom spell, thus in effect combining effects on a worn item?


 * For any worn items, no you can't enchant any more than one constant effect on it, as you don't enchant with spells, you enchant with known spell effects from your spell book. If you want to "enchant" a worn item with more than one magic effect you would have to create or modify one in the TES Construction Set, but I have no idea how to do that so you'd have to go to a site dedicated to the use of that program. You can, however, enchant weapons with more than one effect at a time, though more small effects tend to use more charge than one powerful effect. If you have any other questions feel free to ask on the appropiate article or on my talk page. \*\ Hellhound43 13:45, 24 October 2006 (CDT)


 * Wait... so if you create a spell in the spell maker does it generate a scroll or does it go into your spellbook? I think I see what you are saying. Even though it goes into your spell book as a spell you can cast, you enchant with BASE SPELL EFFECTS, same as you use to build custom spells, and you can only add the BASE effects, not the resultant custom spells. Oh well.


 * Yes it goes in your spellbook when you make a spell. Other than that ya I think you've got it. When you buy a spell from someone, you can then enchant an object or make a new spell of that spell type (for example, if you buy a frost damage spell that does 10 damage for 3 seconds, you can then make a new spell in the spellmaker that could do, say 30 damage for 1 second, or enchant a weapon with the same effects (with a powerful enough filled soul gem)). When you enchant a weapon you are allowed to change the magnitude/duration of any effects (for which the spell-maker works in the same way but without soul gems), and when you enchant armor you are only allowed one effect of a set value based on what level of soul you use (or Sigil Stone). The only way to get around these limitations is to use the TES Construction Set, which is significantly more complicated. \*\ Hellhound43 17:13, 24 October 2006 (CDT)


 * Thanks!! You can delete this if you don't feel it's added info for anyone else! I edited my earlier post so that it's all answers rather than questions.


 * Your welcome! If you need anything else feel free to ask. \*\ Hellhound43 16:38, 26 October 2006 (CDT)

Gothic 3
Blasphemy! Haha, j/k; it's cool. Got your e-mail by the way, and honestly I haven't started the cells thing yet. However, once college's out for Christmas break, I should be able to contribute. -- theSpectator talk 12:33, 6 December 2006 (CST)


 * Ya I know I'm so ashamed! lolz. It's ok I haven't started yet either, I probably will after this next week is over since next week are my finals. But more than anything I wanted to know whether you were going to start on the + or -side on the x coordinates, I know I said which one I would start on but I can't even remember. Did I say - side for me??? Either way I think I'll start on the negatives once I get started. Thanks. \*\ Hellhound43 14:07, 6 December 2006 (CST)


 * Alrighty, I'll start on the positives then. -- theSpectator talk 01:06, 7 December 2006 (CST)

Admin
Heya Hellhound! Interested in being an admin? That way you don't have to wait for me to be around for articles to be deleted, among other things. I figure that since you're here more than I am, at least you could do some clean up, moves, etc. if I'm not around. -- theSpectator talk 21:54, 17 December 2006 (CST)


 * Wanting a holiday eh? Sure I wouldn't mind having the privilege of being an Admin :). I've gotten a bit of experience on being one for the past few weeks over at BF2142Wiki. BTW, I'm going to be getting started on the project thing tomorrow; I hope to have the whole cell contents thing sorted out by the end of this week, and then I'll get to work on the output next week. I want to get this done before I go back to class on the 3rd or 4th next month, so if you don't have the time to pitch in that's OK, but if you do let me know as soon as you get some stuff done so I know where you are. Thanks for the Admin and thanks for the help! \*\ Hellhound43 23:05, 17 December 2006 (CST)


 * Okay and done. I don't want to make any promises on the cells, but finals are this week, so I might get started soon afterwards. -- theSpectator talk 23:47, 17 December 2006 (CST)

Main page appearance
Do you think we should go with the same Main page appearance as GuildWiki (i.e. the headers)? Wikipedia has had that appearance for quite some time. Personally, I like it better. Or should we stick with what we have, or try out something new? What do you think? -- theSpectator talk 23:55, 17 December 2006 (CST)


 * Well, I'm against making it more like GuildWiki, because I don't want this site to be too similar to it. Obliviowiki should be unique in more than just article content, I believe that you should feel like you are on an entirely different site when you switch between the two, rather than the same site for a different game. The way it is now, I think it's good. We could certainly try something new. If you'd like, I'll put my head to it this week and see if I can't think of something better (both in uniqueness and usability). \*\ Hellhound43 00:10, 18 December 2006 (CST)


 * Sounds good to me. I'm sure we'll come up with something, or if not it's cool the way it is. -- theSpectator talk 02:01, 18 December 2006 (CST)


 * Well I've been thinking about it recently and I really can't think of anything that could improve it. Or maybe I'm just the wrong person to ask lol ;-). Now that I look at Guildwiki's site again, ours is actually pretty similar anyway. \*\ Hellhound43 15:14, 25 December 2006 (CST)

Mega-update
Nice job with the mega-update including the Fighters Guild! I give you kudos, stars, or thumbs up or something if we have those lying around here. :-P -- theSpectator talk 23:28, 18 December 2006 (CST)


 * By the way, 1995 articles (last checked in statistics). Interested in making our 2000th? :-D -- theSpectator talk 23:42, 18 December 2006 (CST)


 * Hehe, I sure am! Thanks, but I'm FAR from done, I'm hoping to make the 2100 mark too, :-P. EDIT: Besides, the Fighters Guild collaboration has been up waaay too long :). \*\ Hellhound43 00:39, 19 December 2006 (CST)


 * Agreed, however you're still working on it. Provinces and Fighters Guild are current collaborations; we could certainly de-collab them.


 * Any recommendations for new ones? Plants, Caves and List of Mages Guild members are current nominations. I might as well ask you directly since it's unlikely that people will respond to a new nomination put up there (though you can certainly still place it there). Plants might be a good one, since you're sort of doing that with the cells thing. -- theSpectator talk 01:35, 19 December 2006 (CST)
 * EDIT: By the way, you can put at the end of all Fighters Guild-related articles. -- theSpectator  talk 01:36, 19 December 2006 (CST)


 * Ok, I'll do that. I think caves would probably be the best nomination. I've kinda wanted to do it but my attention will be focused on Fighters Guild, Plants, and then weapons/armor/items, in that order, for the next while. \*\ Hellhound43 01:46, 19 December 2006 (CST)
 * EDIT:I've been trying to think of a way to accurately link all the quests for the Fighters Guild together. I tried to use the template but that didn't look very appealing or organized. Any ideas? Should I just write them out by hand? \*\ Hellhound43 02:19, 19 December 2006 (CST)


 * Agree that the "next-quest" template is a bit dull (maybe some colors will look nice). Feel free to play with that or create your own. The thing with the Fighters Guild quests is that they don't exactly follow a linear order (i.e., you can do quests from one city's guild first, then another's, then come back), so it'd be difficult to have something exactly like the "next-quest" template. Give something a try.
 * Also, I've made Cave a collaboration. Feel free to make changes to wording and the like on the Main Page (just make sure you make the same change to the editcopy). -- theSpectator talk 13:48, 19 December 2006 (CST)

Well, for all of the other guilds, the template is fine IMHO; a slight color change/difference wouldn't hurt though. I think what I'll do is make a flowchart showing quest progression in the guild, I've already gotten one down on paper and though I've only done the first quest of each city it looks like it might work well. \*\ Hellhound43 20:09, 19 December 2006 (CST)

Shrine of Azure and Glow Dust
Hi. I noticed your correction to the Shrine of Azure, however I'm unable to confirm the location or availability of Glow Dust at the Bruma Mages Guild with a low level character. Are you able to confirm this with (say) a character of less than 7?


 * Hi Tig, please sign your comments in the future (use ~ ). Yes I can confirm that there is glow dust in the Bruma Mages Guild. There should be one portion located on a table in one of the rooms with some other ingredients. Every time I've done the Azura shrine quest I've gone to that mages guild basement to find the glow dust, as rarely do I do so at a level where I've fought Wisps. If I get the chance later today, I'll look in the CS (Construction Set) and confirm it, along with some other locations for it if any. \*\ Hellhound43 12:13, 19 December 2006 (CST)
 * EDIT: I double-checked all the locations yesterday, and the only one you will find outside of a vendor is in the Bruma Mages Guild(you might find some at The Main Ingredient, Gilded Carafe, or Mystic Emporium in the Imperial City Market District, but I haven't confirmed that for sure, and would have to start another character to determine if it's available at low levels). Hellhound43 19:31, 20 December 2006 (CST)


 * Thanks for looking into this. I can confirm, with a level 9 character that Glow Dust can be purchased from Claudette Perrick at the Gilded Carafe. I've also found it now at the Bruma Mages Guild basement on the Alchemy table. I'm still unsure if a level 2 character would be able to. Would need to start a new character. Tig 21:57, 20 December 2006 (CST)

Creature subtypes
Okay, did all the subtype redirects and bestiary reorganizing except for the Dremora and Vampire (Goblin and Horse are pretty well-done already; just needs minor work/info). I need your thoughts on the two: What do you think? -- theSpectator talk 02:40, 23 December 2006 (CST)
 * Dremora – The subtypes are very similar, though Dragon of the Imperial actually worked out some info on each subtype. Should we just copy-paste the info the the main Dremora page and redirect to there, or have separate pages and (try to) expand on what's there?
 * Vampire – Vampires are unique and each vampire has its own set of attacks and spells, and also have their own set of stats. They are actually considered NPCs by the game and what they drop depends on what they're wearing and wielding.


 * As far as the Vampires are concerned, I think all we need to say is what you just said about them. Maybe give a short description about what each type tends to wear/use in terms of weapons, spells, and armor.


 * For Dremora, I'm thinking maybe we should have two pages, one like the Dremora page more or less as it is now, and then one page that lists all of the varieties of Dremora and their stats. We can give a short description on the normal page of each type, and then just link to the detailed page sections as necessary.


 * And by the way, before I forget again I uploaded a pic of the Bravil Fighters Guild without looking at the existing article. So there are two images there now and I noticed the original was yours. Should we leave the two images on there or choose the one that looks best? \*\ Hellhound43 04:20, 23 December 2006 (CST)
 * EDIT:Just read your user page... an expansion for Oblivion? I hope so, but dang that means I better finish the original, lol. Just curious, where did you read this? \*\ Hellhound43 04:23, 23 December 2006 (CST)


 * Something like Dremora and List of Dremora, which contains the details?
 * For the Bravil FG pic, it doesn't matter to me whether you leave both or choose one. As for the expansion, I read it in a magazine (Official Xbox Magazine, I think), though it was just a little note somewhere, and not a preview or scoop.
 * Lastly, I honestly haven't gotten around to checking the plant cells and recording the number, so don't count on me for that, sorry. But I'll let you know if I ever do start working on it. -- theSpectator talk 16:09, 25 December 2006 (CST)
 * EDIT: By the way, you might need to archive your talk page soon :-P -- theSpectator talk 16:12, 25 December 2006 (CST)


 * Hehe, yes I was thinking of archiving it too, will get around to it eventually. Yes, I was thinking something along the lines of List of Dremora Types and Dremora.
 * For the FG pic I think mine looks a little better, if just a bit dark (my character is a vamp... daytime looks kinda screwy, oh and of course stings), since it is larger and a bit higher quality.
 * As far as the plant thing is concerned, I slacked off last week and never got started either lol. I'm going to try to force myself to start tonight, but I've got a couple drawings to do for my boss so I probably won't until tomorrow.
 * And BTW I'm not sure if you noticed or not but I replied under the main page appearance heading. Nothing too special tho I can't think of anything that would make the main page look any better.
 * Working on a flow chart right now for Fighters Guild quest progression, will have it up in an hour or so. \*\ Hellhound43 16:24, 25 December 2006 (CST)