Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-8248675-20130629212310/@comment-25047024-20140117122235

Nazul Rostello wrote: AngryEnclaveSoldier wrote:

No, they are not the same. Shor is the nordic version of Lorkhan, but he is not Lorkhan. Shor/Sheor/Shezzar/etc =/= The original Space God Lorkhan. Mortal believe in TES can form, alter and even create new gods. All time and space gods came from the original time/space gods. Aka and Lorkhan. No they all share the same aspects. The Nedic Reman Cyrodiil was a Shezzarine, a manifestation of Shezarr/Shor/Lorkhan; both of which are the same entity. Since Lorkhan was cursed to walk on Nirn for eternity, Shezzarines/Dragonborns/Heroes are thought to be physical forms of Lorkhan walking. But the strange events as well as the "trinity" of forces working around him, including the intervention of a past shezzarine, Wulfharth, suggests this is definitely the case. Then please, explain me why Tosh Raka apparently hates Akatosh, or why Akatosh wants to stop Alduin from returning.

Gawd, no. Shezzarine are maniftestations of Lorkhan on Nirn. Not Dragonborns, and not all Heros.

You should know that mortal believe in TES is extremely powerful, which is why Talos is so darn powerful, and why the Thalmor want to stop Talos worship. Worship gives the worshipped god power over mortals, but mortals can change the worshipped god through worship. Aka and Lorkhan were the original Time and Space gods, until some Ehlnofex/Aldmer/Nede/whatever started to believe in a Time God called Aka-Tusk. This broke Aka. When Alessia merged the nordic Alduin and the elven Auriel and created Akatosh, Aka broke again. When the Atmorans started to worship the World devourer, Aka broke again and Alduin was birthed. This is also the case with Lorkhan.

And what does Wulfharth have to do with Reman? Reman was Dragonborn. Wulfharth was a Shezzarine.

Pelinal Whitestrake is another example of the broken Aka/Lorkhan thing: He mentions several times that he is not only just a Shezzarine. He has connections with Aka , the original Time God and Lorkhan, the original Space God.

''"O Aka, for our shared madness I do this!" ''The Song of Pelinal, Book VI

"It is a solid truth that Morihaus was the son of Kyne, but whether or not Pelinal was indeed the Shezarrine is best left unsaid (for once Plontinu, who favored the short sword, said it, and that night he was smothered by moths)" The Song of Pelinal, Book V

He didn't like being called a Shezzarine. A Shezzarine is an Avatar of Shezzar. Pelinal Whitestrake is an avatar of Aka and Lorkhan. That's a damn big difference.

''"... and left you to gather sinew with my other half, who will bring light thereby to that mortal idea that brings [the Gods] great joy, that is, freedom, which even the Heavens do not truly know, [which is] why our Father, the... [Text lost]... in those first [days/spirits/swirls] before Convention... that which we echoed in our earthly madness. [Let us] now take you Up. We will [show] our true faces... [which eat] one another in amnesia each Age." ''The Song of Pelinal, Book VIII

"before Conevention" means in the Dawn Era, before Aka and Lorkhan broke into different Gods.

"...and left you to gather sinew with my other half, who will bring light thereby to that mortal idea that brings [the Gods] great joy, that is, freedom, which even the Heavens do not truly know," His other half, Lorkhan. Lorkhan wanted to create Mundus to make it easier for the other spirits to achieve CHIM, which is basicly achieving Freedom from the Godhead's slavery.

"We will [show] our true faces... [which eat] one another in amnesia each Age." Aka and Lorkhan are psychos. They break each Kalpa. They basicly are Schizophrenic. All Time Gods and Space Gods are Aka and Lorkhan, but each shard has their own unique mind.

Now, please give me some sources to your theory that Shezzar, Shor, Sheor etc. are all Lorkhan just with different names.