Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-24.119.198.177-20130930002431/@comment-41.251.109.191-20151208053354

Sothas wrote: There is another thread of this going and I'll put here what I put there. To start it off, CoC did not fully become Sheo and it is likely that eventually Jygg will revert back into Sheo and CoC will become a Vestige like Haskill.

[http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2015/06/12/loremasters-archive-an-interview-with-haskill Chamberlain Haskill says, “I have had similar questions about my 'nature' from Alessandra, Legoless, and an Unnamed One, so I suppose I must address the matter. I am a Vestige, all that remains of a mortal from your world who 'mantled' Sheogorath during an event in a previous time. As a fragment, my memory of the event is … fragmentary. I am hazy on the entire concept of 'mantling,' but it had something to do with Lord Sheogorath, myself, and this Jyggalag of whom you speak. I have asked the Mad God to explain it to me, but he just laughs and says maybe he'll tell me about it 'next year,' whatever that means. “Sometimes the Master irritates even me. I can't remember why I put up with it, actually."]

This is evidence supporting Lady N's write up from a few years back that can be found here: http://www.imperial-library.info/content/arden-sul-1

We're talking about the nature of Sheo/Jygg. This nature stays true through at least this kalpa. While he isn't the arbiter of all things, Kirkbride is very adamant about the fact that CoC did not mantle Sheo, at least not in the sense that Talos mantled Lorkhan.

As a side note, the term mantling keeps being thrown around as the Fourth Walking Way, but this may not be the case. The Love Letter doesn't mention mantling, and instead calls the Fourth the Enantiomorph. Myself and others as well have been questioning the status quo for what mantling truly is.

What Haskill says here doesn't apply to the events of the Shivering Isles DLC.

CoC actually ended the Greymarch and Jyggalag's curse for good, so there is no actual reason why Jygg would revert back to Sheo, and there's no reason why the mantle of Sheogorath would get passed to someone else after that.

He himself said that the title gets passed from himself to himself every few thousand years, and mentions the events of Oblivion like he was only following them through the POV of CoC, and actually breaks the Fourth Wall by directly telling the player :

"I'm part of you, little mortal. I'm a shadow of your subconscious. A blemish on your fragile little psyche. You know me. You just don't know it."

Most have interpreted this line in one way and believed he was talking about madness, but they didn't think it actually has a double meaning and that New Sheo is talking to the players who controlled him during his adventures in the previous game and its DLCs.

The evidence that CoC did indeed fully mantle Sheogorath and transcended mortality is more tangible than the "evidence" that suggests otherwise.

I will only believe that CoC didn't fully mantle Sheo if Kirkbride explicitly states it and fully explains it.