User blog comment:Draevan13/The streamlining of the Elder Scrolls series, and some Skyrim flaws./@comment-1600847-20121116144452

I think we've both been misunderstanding each other's points.

1) I clarified several times that since CoD and Oblivion sold well, it means they appeal to a certain genre, and are thus good for that genre. Whether or not they're good  is a matter of opinion .

2) Skyrim is also fairly generic if I simplify it as you do: "Dragons are attacking the world and it'd be nice if we stopped them." So can Morrowind: "A fallen God wants to destroy the world and it'd be nice if we stopped him." We've stories of fallen Gods and dragons attacking countless times before, but you choose to ignore that.

But it's more compicated than that, in my opinion, as is Oblivion. But that's my opinion, and it annoys me because you state your opinion as though it's a fact. It's your opinion that Oblivion is generic, that doesn't make it a fact.

3) There is a way to know how much effort was put into their creation. It's how long they were in development. How can a game that's made in 2 years possibly have as much effort in it than one that took 5 years, more than twice the time?

4) You've been discrediting my OPINIONS, since most of my arguments are opinions, not facts, calling my opinions "irrational" among other things, which is quite rude, especially since you're an Admin, I expected a certain level of politness from that.

But, I agree we should stop arguing. You're not going to convince me Oblivion is generic, I won't convince you it's not, and we probably have better things to to with our time.