Board Thread:Skyrim/@comment-11344160-20160205154012/@comment-26893431-20160914135227

177.204.150.91 wrote: Skyrim is not a poor country as you think. Obviously, Bethesda was based in Scandinavia and culture of its people to create Skyrim and their Nords. You will not find there places like Imperial or Vivec City, major population centers (even if Skyrim has indeed big cities, the Nords are scattered, the majority acting as mercenaries or fighting in the war). The reason Skyrim have joined to the Empire was having Talos recognized as Ysmir. When the Septim dynasty was extinguished, many (in several provinces) saw this as a sign that there was no longer a worthy leader. Since it became part of the Empire, Skyrim had numerous kings who acted just like puppets, being elected by Jarls in the same situation. What would Ysgramor, or Shor himself say about this? The way of a Nord is that the weak should not rule. The Empire is weak. Bethesda itself would not put a civil war in Skyrim if it weren't to implement changes in the geopolitics of Tamriel. Times are changing, the provinces becoming independent again, and the strongest rise from the ashes of an empire which, in my opinion, should never have existed. The Dominion could have prevailed against Cyrodiil, but Stormcloaks struggle with tremendous force (as expected from the best warrior race in Nirn). Besides, observe: the game treats Ulfric as honorable (yet megalomaniac - although I never saw him acting that way) and a respectful herald of the Old Ways, while in the meantime, General Tulius is (never forgeting his abbilities as a great legionaire) totally unaware of the Nordic ways and costumes, even disdaining them sometimes. The Dominion itself is portrayed as antagonist, an all-evil force whose only purpouse is to erase mankind from Nirn. Who do you think Bethesda will support? The race which (by tradition) all men came from and whose chief deity was the God of Men himself, Mighty Shor, or Elves that once slaved weaker nations of men? The Empire is over, it's the most obvious thing in the game, and the will of the game developers.

Skyrim isn't poor? Falkreath Hold and The Reach have problems with provisions, Haafingar, Eastmarch, Whiterun Hold, The Rift and Hjaalmarch all have light coffers, aka, they are poor. Whiterun and Solitude are major shipping ports, and them being poor says something... Whiterun is even so poor that Balgruuf can barely afford the guard.

Electing kings through the Moot has been part of Skyrim for many years.... In fact, the Nordic Empire fell because the Moot didn't choose the right King....

Skyrim leaving is nonsense, since you can also join the Empire. The Stormcloaks are fighting mere scouts and skirmishers, and they are still not winning whatsoever. They don't stand a chance.

Respectful of the Old ways? Let me list a few things that Ulfric has done.

1. Betrayed the Greybeards.

2. Betrayed his High King.

3. Damning the Moot.

4. Damning the Jarls.

5. Not puting any faith in the Jagged Crown.

6. Not worshipping the Nordic Pantheon.

7. Not accepting that Elisif is High Queen by right.

Ulfric only respects traditions when they suit him.

Shor was worshipped by the Nords, so what? The Bretons also had Sheor, the Imperials had Shezzar ,the races of Mer had Lorkhan, the Khajiiti had Lorkhaj, while the Yokudans had Sep. Shor is merely an aspect of the creator of Mundus and it doesn't make the Nords any more right. Not to forget, the Nords aren't the ancestors of the other human races, the Atmorans were, for the most part. Atmorans =/= Nords.