Board Thread:Off Topic/@comment-24099618-20140114190300/@comment-25047024-20140326202940

70.34.133.250 wrote: AngryEnclaveSoldier wrote: 70.34.133.250 wrote: Jimeee wrote: For any Thalmor haters:

"The Thalmor is easily the most dangerous organization in the Aurbis. Moreso than Talos. They cannot be understood. They are the Other and they hate everything that even smells like mortality. And they're going to win in the end."

- MK

That's just pants-on-head retarded. The Thalmor, and their alleged threat to all of Tamriel is a joke anyway. It's bad lore is what it is. Not even remotely feasible with what we've been given here. There's NO WAY one race of Mer, who reproduce slower than the races of men too btw, would be able to conquer Tamriel as it is today. It's just silliness. The W-GC is just dumb and contradicts a lot of other lore on the subject. The Thalmor were destroyed "to the last man/woman" in Cyrodiil, and even AFTER throwing Hammerfell under the bus with the W-GC(one of MANY moronic clauses of said treaty that nobody would ever agree too AFTER victory), which was also AFTER the Thalmor in Cyrodiil were destroyed, the Redguards ALONE held them off for 5 years.

There is no way in heaven, hell, or on God's green Earth the Thalmor could NOT be in far worse shape than the Empire right now. They reproduce slower than men anyway, and the Empire's been recovering for 5 years while the Thalmor continued to fight ther Redguards. It's simply not possible with the lore we're given here. It's just dumb. Period. The Redguards got a deal that basically says, "YOU! THALMOR! OUT AND DON'T COME BACK!", and the WC-C? After destroying the Thalmor invaders to the last the Empire bends over and spreads cheeks? Really? That's just retarded is all it is.

All than nonsense in game about "the Thalmor would've destroyed the empire if the W-GC wasn't signed", is just that. Nonsense. How, pray tell, were the Thalmor gonna accomplish this when they can't even conquer JUST Hammerfell by itself? One nation of said empire?

"In 4E 174, the Thalmor leadership committed all available forces to the campaign in Cyrodiil.", and we know those forces were destroyed to the last. Then there's their failure in Hammerfell too. They're 0-2 over in Tamriel atm. So where in the hell are the Thalmor gonna get the troops to destroy the empire if they told them to shove that WG-C up their high elf asses? The only FEASIBLE answer to that is they can't do that at all in fact because they would be the ones that would be ready to fall, not the empire. There is NO WAY the Dominion wouldn't be a lot weaker than the empire atm. It's just all dumb like i've repeatedly said here. So... your whole point is that Altmer reproduce slower than Humans (which is wrong, by the way)? You know, the Thalmor managed to almost destroy the Empire. The Empire is extremely weak in 4E 201 (not only because of the Stormcloak rebellion in Skyrim). Also, the Aldmeri Dominion has extremely powerful mages at their disposal, Khajiiti and Bosmeri Scouts, Imga Soldiers and several other things which give them an advantage.

And it's quite obvious that the Aldmeri Dominion is in a better shape than the Empire, since Alinor was never directly attacked during the Great War (so, no buildings were destroyed). Cyrodiil, on the other hand, was almost totally destroyed.

The races of men reproduce faster than the races of mer, always has been so in ES lore. So no, I'm right about that one, and if you think that's my WHOLE point then you can't read lol. In fact, that's the LEAST of my point albiet a very valid part. Read again. Fine, let's say I'm wrong about that reporduction(i'm not though). There is still the fact that ALL OF THEIR AVAILABLE FORCES were committed to the campaign in Cyrodiil, and the rest were in Hammerfell. Both groups got whoopped. The Cyrodiil group was 100% destroyed, and the Hammerfell group was routed badly("suffered very heavy losses") before it was all said and done as well. So who, pray tell,  would even be left for the Thalmor to either defend Alinor from the empire or "destory the empire if they don't sign the WG-C"? So there is no way in HELL the Thalmor wouldn't be way weaker than the empire at that time. 90% of their military has been wiped out. There's no way in HELL the Empire would sign the WG-C as it is. There's no way in HELL they'd throw the Redguards and Nords, the two best men warrior races in Tamriel, under the bus like that after utterly crushing the Thalmor in Cyrodiil. The EMPIRE would be in the driver's seat, not the Thalmor. Since when, in ANYTHING(real or fiction), do the LOSERS dictact peace terms? Never is the correct answer, and that's why it's just one more point for dumb here lol.

Also, it's not OBVIOUS the Dominion is in better shape. It's flat out DUMB in fact. Not possible. The lore here? Just dumb. In any remotely feasible scenario, the empire WOULD have invaded Alinor/SSI after wiping them out in Tamriel as you mentioned, and since ALL AVAILAVBLE FORCES WERE COMMITTED TO CYRODIIL, where 100% of them were killed, who is left to defend the motherland against an invasion of the combined might of the empire's provinces,, or anyone else for that matter? NO ONE is the only correct answer. The lore on this is dumb, it makes no sense at all, and THAT'S my whole point here.

Sorry, but just because you consider the lore about the Great War "dumb", doesn't mean that you can change it to your own liking. We know that the Aldmeri Dominion didn't suffer as much as the Empire during the Great War, we also know that Altmer don't reproduce slow (They usually only mate with other Altmer, but they can still have multiple children), 4E 201 is 20 years after the Great War, and the Thalmor most certainly did rebuild their Army,

I also did read your comment. You should learn to get better sources except "I don't like it". Do you not like it that WW2 happened? No? Well, no one does like that, but you can't change history. The same with TES. Just because you don't like a fact, you can't just flat out DENY it.