User blog comment:Spritydove/Deeper Thought into the Civil War/@comment-1840877-20120707194247/@comment-5135631-20120707211502

I agree with 1 and 3 to a point, but in no way is Igmund a better Jarl than Thongvor. Thongvor may be arrogant, but he is determined to keep his lands safe from the Forsworn. Igmund, by contrast, allows someone to temporarily deal with the Forsworn (Ulfric), pledges him a payment (Talos worship) and when the Empire puts some pressure on him, he backstabs Ulfric and leaves him to fry. He owes his very position to Ulfric (because the Forsworn took his lands, but Ulfric put him back on the Throne) and he should have vouched for him against the Empire. Igmund is a nasty little man with no backbone, who also gives no attention at all to the most powerful family in the Reach, the Silverbloods, despite Thongvor, the Lord of the family if you like, having some qualms about the city's allegiance. This to me spells a Jarl who is lazy and cowardly.

Siddegeir is one who is much worse than his successor (and predecessor) because he is lazy and corrupt, only asking you to buy him Mead rather than deal with some problem on the Hold. He supports the Empire because they give him what he likes. I hope someone breaks his legs. Dengeir by contrast actually cares for his Hold and is honest in his opinion of Ulfric (he doesn't really like him, but he has the best claim to the throne and Dengeir can relate to him more) and he doesn't take advantage of decent people for profit or get mixed up with criminals.

Then, the Mother of all evil, Maven Black-Briar. Laila Law-Giver was a competent and cautious Jarl, also not blind to Ulfric's flaws, even if she is a little naive. Maven Black-Briar represents everything that is wrong with the Empire: betrayal of decent folk, mingling with Elven supremacists, apathetic attitude to anyone without power or influence, and murdering/ruining anyone who she can't sway. I'd be suprised if you didn't also share my opinion of Maven to some extent.

Now, for bad Stormcloak Jarls! I believe it's only fair that, as an avid Stormcloak supporter, I name my leeast favourite Jarls who have declared for Ulfric and taken the blue.

Firstly, Skald the Elder. Even though he supports Ulfric with his life, he turns a bit of a blind eye to his hold. He cares little about the nightmares in his town even though Erandur can solve the problem. He also seems to be quite abusive to his servants and keepmen. He cares too much about Ulfric to be in a position of power. However, I think Brina Merilis is overrated; she comes off as snobby and is an Imperial, so no, I don't think she'd do the trick either.

To be honest, that really is the only one. I like all the other ones. By the way, I mean no personal harm by constantly challenging your opinions sgt s.s., I just simply have a different point of view.