Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-30011802-20170217032502/@comment-26893431-20170327133819

ZhugeQuanqiang wrote: I did not say Moon CAN'T crash into Nirn. I say it is not how things happen naturally or it is an common occurence. Nor there is any known events to the player's knowledge that will lead to Masser and Secunda crashing onto Nirn after the last time.

South Africa current situation shows little indication that having nukes is one of the next things that will happen. Two to three years ago, North Korea showed signs that the next course of "How things will work" includes having Nukes. That was why its neighbors and USA were able to know immediately when they tested Nukes.

"Until we have records of spies." Do you have selective blindness or memory loss? There ARE two spies working for the Thalmor in Skyrim itself. Your statement saying that "there simply aren't spies" is wrong because the Dragonborn has crossed paths with two and due to the fact that they have more than just information gathered by this two, the Thalmor already proved to have more. You don't even know who are they using to observe the Civil War, the one watching Stormcloaks, the one watching the Imperials, after what the Dragonborn pulled, likely one watching him.

Every single Hold, every Jarl. Those are not luxury, those are necessity if the Thalmor needs to accomplish being able to I believe now that you have not been able to identify the key factor to why the next line of "How things will work" includes having tons of spies. It came from Markarth Incident which proves that the Thalmor's next target is Skyrim as early as about 20 years ago, then Thalmor Dossier saying "Carefully manage aid to Stormcloaks" gives hints that are far stronger evidence than it appears to be that "How things will work" has reached the point where large number of spies operating in Skyrim has come into fruition.

The next line of "How things will work" is High Rock causing trouble being one of the possibilities. I think I need to spell it out. More than one of the possibilities can happen at the same time or consecutively in order for the Thalmor to reach their goals. Including having another war.

In the recent events of 4th Era, there are many reasons why their next course of occurence is spies being used against each other and you have two who was flushed out during the events of Skyrim. Seeing as one of the moons orbits the other one, and the moons in turn orbit Nirn, it will happen at some point in time. Basic astronomy.

"Indication", it doesn't matter if there's an "indication", you need cold-hard evidence. Hence why the police is also only allowed to search a house if sufficient evidence is gathered.

We have records of two spies. No other ones. Therefor, we can't claim that there are others, unless if it's stated there are others. Who on earth says that they use spies? The things the Thalmor document are either things that are observed by they themselves (aka, Elenwen and her bodyguards at Helgen) or things that traveled through the land; news. And, we still have Gissur, who could have informed them about those things.

Your argument doesn't add up. The Markarth Incident was staged between Ulfric and the Thalmor, nothing to do with spies, unless if you were to call Ulfric a spy. Seriously though, your argument does not, by any means, add up.