Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-84.117.107.214-20170425191918/@comment-45.37.17.32-20170928002400

So as we know, the Tribunal gained (initial) power through tapping into the Heart of Lorkhan, but this source is one that needs to be continually replenished. I assume therefore, it is not a permanent godhood/ascension as the path through CHIM seems to be.

Vivec writes of CHIM and his achievement of such in his Sermons but his Sermons are his own retelling of his past (a very poetic retelling that take many liberties) - potentially to explain (or partially) his ascension to godhood in the first place.

I actually have no doubt Vivec, of the three, achieved CHIM and considering the process of such, seeing beyond himself and the narrow confines of how mortal Vehk once saw - even, perhaps, Living God Vivec - coercing/forcing changes or obedience from others might not have been a priority or necessity in the mind of someone so Awakened.

Of course, it would seem that he did use CHIM to wipe Azura's physical form from Nirn (however long/short that lasts) in revenge for...I'm guessing a few things.

The main things, to me, that would help answer questions is 1) what does achieving CHIM to a once-mortal (aside from essentially achieving godhood) & 2) when did Vivec actually achieve CHIM? Might answer a few questions, but this is Bethesda and we may or may never get an answer - or as per usual we'll get several conflicted answers because they love to show there are different viewpoints in the world and some may or may not be correct.