Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-13417807-20130726204600/@comment-24380633-20140213224008

Pink Slim wrote: 213.245.12.205 wrote: Also no he's clearly more interested in power than in the well-being of the people, even the Nord people.

This "retaking our country" is just bullcrap propaganda so that he can sit his pretentious bottom on the High Throne, nothing else.

bullcrap? kid, Ulfric's been fighting for the people of Skyrim since the Markarth Incident, twenty five years before the start of the game, the empire has been hounding him ever since, the war officially started after Ulfric killed Torryg... ONE year before the start of the game.

what I've said is in-game facts, all you've done is say "PROOPAGONDALA!!!" where are your facts? where is your evidence? I can support my facts, all you're doing is saying "nooo, das proopagondala, ufrilc is evul "

And here's something to chew on, if all he wants is power, then why the fuck would he choose to so openly oppose the two largest forces in all of tamriel? he wants power right? so why the hell would he fight against the empire and the thalmor if all he wants is to gain power? How the hell is making the worst enemies going to make him more powerful?

There is actually some evidence to support that Ulfric wants power. First of all, and I remember this, Ulfric said, "And damn the Moot!" This shows that he doesn't care about Nordic tradition and just wants power, however, just after that, he states that he doesn't want Skyrim to be handed over to the elves on a silver plate, but that could just be to mislead his second-in-command and any others around him. In addition, I remember reading on the wiki pages of Dengeir and Laila that they both think that Ulfric might be out for power. Since Dengeir and Laila are both big players in the Stormcloaks game because of their positions in nobility, it would not be 'dumb' to assume that Dengeir and Laila know Ulfric personally and if they know Ulfric, I think we can trust their word. Also, how can I trust you when you make yourself sound so naive and 'dumb' when you have such terrible grammar. At least capitalize the right letters and don't curse that much.