Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-8248675-20130606043855/@comment-13446185-20130917215250

Legate Alexandros wrote: That what I was thinking too. There seems to be a lot of laziness as far as I can tell. For Example, Helgen and Kynesgrove were supposed to have been destroyed by Dragon attack. Yet you see on Helgen as it appears before destruction, even though it's when you are being bough there for exectution, you can still see that it's a fortified town of Imperial Legion in Skyrim. However, no matter when you come to Kynesgrove, instead of looking like a settlement before hand, IT LOOKS EXACTLY THE SAME!!! It's more immersion breaking, then lore breaking. I can understand in Oblivion, they didn't have the engine that allowed you to see Kvatch before it's destruction, but why not in Skyrim? Also, if Winterhold is a city that got destroyed, where the heck are the ruins? Where the heck is remainder of city walls, or even a rubble in the Sea of Ghosts? The only ruins that you can associated with ruins of Winterhold, are the ruble under the bridge to the college of Winterhold. And then they complain that moders take away their market? Make more DLCs, better Patches and include better immersion instead of being so lazy on that, then we would't have to look up to the moding community. Oh and just so you know, I am a console system gamer in Regards to Elder Scrolls, so all I have is a vanilla version. Not that I wouldn't want to have a PC version and try making my own mods for Skyrim. Definitely see where your coming from. Winterhold was a complete let down for something that used to be the greatest city in Skyrim, I mean come on guys, I understand it is a destroyed city but where are the walls, wheres the freaking architecture; I doub't that a couple of wooden shacks was what Shalidor had in mind when he built the city.

Then there is the Jarls lodges which are kind of lame for someone who rules over the hold. The only ones that are kind of impressive are Dragonsreach, Palace of Kings, and Understone.

Another thing that got to me was the Halls of the Dead in the cities. WHY ARE THEY SO SMALL? Unlike the old Dragon Wars temples you find across Skyrim the Halls of the Dead are still being used, since alot of the cities in Skyrim are very old shouldn't they have bigger crypts than the ancient Dragon Barrows. It's even mentioned in game that Ysgramor had a massive tomb built for himself under Windhelm yet we never get to explore it.

I'm sorry Bethesda, I love you but you gotta fix some things.