Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-5789047-20130530203856/@comment-5789047-20130601061440

Lawadnorder wrote: Daxus Inferno wrote: Lawadnorder wrote: Daxus Inferno wrote: Lawadnorder wrote: Daxus, I feel like you're trying more to get us to agree with your point of view rather than hear our points of view. I mean the other crowd you asked seems to look at it like game developers should appeal to a small minority of gamers (those who invest a lot of time into a character) and not appeal to the majority of gamers today (filty casuals [joke]). You have to remember, game developers work for a business. A business is primarily concerned with making money. If they don't appeal to the majority, they lose money. I know people who hate Oblivion but love Skyrim. Why? Because they couldn't wrap their head around Oblivion, and it pains me to think what they'd do in Morrowind. Yes, it's dumber. Does that make the game bad? Not unless you're an elitist, and in that case you're an asshole. So basically either I agree with you or I'm an asshole? Best damn argument I think I've ever heard! No, I am not saying you have to say it's a good game. If you say it's a bad game because it's dumbed down in your opinion, not as "outlandish", as a member of the other crowd said, and because you can't just kill everybody willy nilly due to your lack of imagination or console commands that allow you to kill them, then you are an asshole. If you fail to look at the positives of the game, and only the negatives, then you are an asshole. I agree, Skyrim is a bit simpler than previous titles. I also realize that not everybody reads the books in the game, a vivid magination that won't allow them to fill in blanks that are there in the lore, or have the time to enjoy a game that is, wonderfully, complex. Try to understand that the company wants money and people want a game they can jump into and understand without to much time spent learning mechanics. Economics dictate that, and if you can't accept that, you're not just an asshole, you're an ignorant asshole. I'm not the asshole for being critical, and you're the one being the asshole. You're turning a discussion into the YouTube Comments Section. And no shit that their trying to make money and therefor appealing to the casual gamers, that's what we're talking about. Your only complaint appears to be that you can't kill everyone, as per #3. Being critical of a game that you seem to have one complaint on is ridiculous. And if that's what we were arguing, why is it you treat people who like the game a bit faster as if they're a "problem"? Is that not being an elitist? You also asked to hear our thoughts, and instead of actually responding to those thoughts, providing a rational argument in response, you brush it off with "did you even watch the [32 min] video?" Did you realize people don't always have time to watch something that long? Maybe you could explain it to them? Or maybe bring up more than one argument? And instead of responding to thoughts, you went elsewhere, outside this community to one that was more agreeable. Then posted the link. So we could see people agreed with you. Fantastic. It's like you're trying to show us that you should be agreed with because others do.

Actually I though it might be a good idea to also show you guys the opinions of others when I gave the link. If you don't feel like adding to the discussion then leave, Jorge.