Board Thread:Off Topic/@comment-24099618-20140114190300/@comment-25047024-20140326193522

Dark Jeto wrote: 70.34.133.250 wrote: AngryEnclaveSoldier wrote: Eh, I noticed that people seem to think that Tiber Septim was a good person. He wasn't. He did some quite questionable things, such as forcing Barenziah to abort.

Just sayin'. THIS! Tiber was not a good guy, he was a conqueror, and conquerors are NOT good people in general. You're slaghterting people, and taking things like land that isn't yours. Pretty much inherently BAD lol. In some ways, no better than the Thalmor. If that's your qualifications for what bad is, then you just ruled out pretty much every single nation in Tamriel. Aside from Black Marsh and MAYBE Elsweyr, every single nation has a history of war, slaughter, and conquering. Here are some things about Tiber Septim's success that you cannot deny:


 * The unification of Tamriel ended war between the nations


 * With the Dragonblood Emperors restored to the throne, the Dragonfires remained lit and prevented invasions from Oblivion like during the Interregum, or the Oblivion Crisis (until the eventual assassination of Uriel Septim).


 * Despite being ruled by an Empire, most nations were allowed autonomy and freedom of religion.


 * A level of peace and prosperity that hadn't existed before then.


 * Rebuilt Cyrodil which had suffered from 400 years of war

Yes, he did do some horrible things, especially to Barenziah and potentially Wulfharth. But even with all of that, he is still far better than the Thalmor. He wasn't genocidal, and he did allow a level of autonomy and free religion to the conquered nations. Agreed. Tiber was a generally horrible person, but atleast he brought peace to Tamriel (for a while). What he did is also definetly not as bad as what the Thalmor want to do.