Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-72.77.73.35-20140401211532/@comment-1470368-20141113223114

Pelinal Whitestrake wrote: Ifnsman wrote:

@Pelinal Whitestrake

However, despite being a self-proclaimed "Lore-expert", you need to understand that Lore =/= 100% accurate (which it partly doesn't sound like you do, despite you claiming to have come up with only theories). The very definition of the word "Lore" contains nothing about it being word-of-god. Even MK himself stated once that the Lore isn't meant to be taken for granted (look up on the Imperial Library)

It's just plain splitting-hairs to argue whether it was the Vestige or the divine power itself that "wounded" Molag Bal. What's obvious is that the power granted to the Vestige wasn't even his/her own (lost to the Vestige after using it against Molag Bal).

Lore is only made accurate in the moment that its material is purposely featured by Bethesda in the game's world/story itself.

There's so much more to pointlessly argue, like how the Last Dragonborn is only the 3rd most powerful Dragonborn ever before facing Miraak. Talos' Thu'um could knock large doors down (if not also structures) because he was simply the most powerful Dragonborn in history. The Greybeards could nearly kill people by simply talking in Dovahzul (which is actually demonstrated, considering it is stated in-game that only the Dragonborn could withstand it with no training). Tiber Septim's Thu'um powers depended on Wulfharth. Well, guess who *suddenly* couldn't shout anymore after he tricked his friends who just happened to be Wulfharth and Zurin into an Enatiomorphic event? Tiber Septim. Supposedly, his throat was slit. Which could very well be true, as we know that the Observer of an Enatiomorph always gets damaged in some form. Or it could be a lie. Who knows.

I know very well what MK says, and I know very well that lore often depends on one's own perspective and understanding, but you have absolutely no evidence stating that the Daedric Princes cannot be destroyed.

And it is very much obvious that it wasn't his own, as he sacrificed one of his companions (you can choose) to Akatosh in order to gain it. But, the fact is that he used this power to fight against Molag Bal.

He could've very simply just walked away, returned to Nirn just like he did so often before. He chose not to. He fought Molag. Forced him to release the souls. Note: Did not KILL him.

Oh, and if you want to get a glance at a few of my theories, just take a look at my first blog and this thread. All I can see in the first paragraph is the spouting of knowledge most of us already know. Obviously, the point isn't about the origin of Tiber Septim's power.

"Absolutely no evidence stating that the Daedric Princes cannot be destroyed"...Except for the fact that the divine-granted powers of the Vestige near the end of TESO could only "defeat" Molag Bal, forcing him to release thousands of souls. Molag Bal remains just as confident as ever.

Depends on what you consider "defeat", because Molag Bal certainly didn't treat it that way. He acknowledged it as the simple fulfillment of prophecy of one of the Elder Scrolls.