Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-206.74.175.104-20151018163917/@comment-50.82.104.2-20160223181822

Ottoman Hold wrote: 1) I guess this point is being misunderstood. The Empire is handling justice in their own providence. For some reason, multiple people think that Skyrim was Dominion land during the war when it is clearly not. Of course The Dominion is not settling the Civil War since it's not their providence. I'm getting a little annoyed by people saying The Empire is a Dominion puppet. They're not. The treaty may be sided toward The Dominion, but that doesn't mean The Empire is powerless. Once again, a single legion just about bested the Stormcloak rebellion. The Stormcloaks cannot hold off way more of this (aka Dominion forces). The Dominion is in way better shape than an independent Skyrim. Anyone can see that.

2) Yes, it's true, game play does not directly equal lore. But you guys are pulling this out of nowhere. You're taking the this fact and using it to say that The Stormcloaks are automatically super warriors because "Game play doesn't equal lore". Guess what, you can't make stuff up. The Stormcloaks are weaker in the game, yes this is true, but instead of these not plausible fanfictionous characters, compare them to a Hold Guard, with better damage and health. You can't just that since one thing is incorrect, then all of a sudden say The Stormcloaks are godlike.

3) For the most part this point has been settled, but I'll say that Hammerfell is not Skyrim. The Redguards had a desert and elite Imperial soldiers with them. You cannot compare them, but luckily that has already been decided here, so we can put that point down for now.

4) The Stormcloaks don't have enough mages, multiple people say this themselves in game. For the most part, Nords rarely use magic in general. This puts The Dominion on top no matter what. In addition, although the Nords have shouts, not many are able to take the pilgrimage (aka not many shouters), and it takes years to train. Overall yeah, The Stormcloaks are heavily out gunned (figuratively speaking). I don't think that, I actually agree with you, please do not respond to me assuming that I view the same things as the people you argue against. I responded because I saw an false point and felt it needed to be retified IE an lesser ward capable of blocking the shouts of an dragonborn.

2. Sigh again I never even said or hinted at this. Who knows maybe they are, but personally I feel they are not that strong in terms of strength compared to the dominion. It's entirley possible that Ulfric will give thm much better equipment later on. Think about it: These people could fend off an portion ofthe empire, and yet according to you people have crappy equipment,they might be rebels but they have buttloads of potential if they can do that in their current state.

3. Good beause I wasn't arguing for it to start with, refer to point NO1.

4.The dragonborn could be the answer, he is strong enough to defeat an weakened alduin, is comparable to half an daedric prince (idk where people get 1/4 from seeing as he says you are ALMOST as strong as him at half power, not half as strong as his half power), and deafeated Miraak who was on the verge of escaping the grasp of an daedric prince. Lorewise there is no cooldown for shouts, and that bend will would be very usefull in turning the Thalmors forces against them, imagine an entire legion of them then they suddenly get blasted with it, and now these guys are on your side.Thats really all the magic these guys need. This is someopne who can rip out your soul (soul tear) drain your very life essence, and summom Alduins right hand man. He may not be Tiber Septim but you have to admit the DB has an lot of things that Tiber did notl