Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-13417807-20130726204600/@comment-10207438-20130912025033

Lab Coat Billy wrote: Pink Slim wrote: Pickleseller wrote: Pink Slim wrote: Lab Coat Billy wrote: Are the Argonians and Dunmer not opressed? Dunmer: no, they are not oppressed, they're not even under skyrim rule, they are a seperate entity, sort of like an embassy. they were given a section of windhelm to live in where they are untaxed. The only reason their is any 'oppression' is that their is a couple racists, and that they don't clean their streets.

Argonians: They are opressed, not by the nords or the ruling powers in windhelm, but by their bosses. why don't they live inside of windhelm, why do they have to live in the assemblage? because they're poor; they don't make enough money to live in the city. and unlike the dunmer, they don't have a section of the city where they can live free of charge(aside from the assemblage owned by their boss) They are taxed; you know this when you do the quest for the Sadri guy and give the ring to the Butcher woman.

Their bosses are the Shatter-Sheilds, who are Nords. there's a difference between trade tarrifs and general taxing.

Now you're just grasping at straws; so what if he's a nord, he's the boss, he's the one who's in charge, he sets the wages and they work; THAT IS HOW EMPLOYMENT WORKS; he sets the pay low, nords don't want to work for such little pay, the jobs go to the people who accept, that being the argonians who needed jobs and homes to live there; without these terrible paying jobs they'd have to find somewhere else to find work.

I'm not saying it's a perfect, or even good system, but that's how the world works. poor people take whatever jobs they can, unless they want to starve. If anything he's doing them a justice by giving them a place to live. They don't make enough money because they are cruelly underpaid by their bosses. And on that note, Laila treats the Argonians relatively well, so why can't Ulfric? And is it not their Shatter-Shield boss who says that Nord labor is worth ten times as much? And they could at least give them individual houses, as opposed to whatever that poor excuse for a settlement is. THEIR BOSS is the one who underpays them, NOT ULFRIC; Ulfric has no say in how much TORBJORN SHATTER-SHIELD pays them, It is not Ulfric's rule that is holding them down; so stop acting as if it's Ulfric's fault and placing the blame on him.

and Laila treats the argonians the same, some had enough money to buy a building, they did; while another one has no home and lives with the homeless people in the sewers.

and as I said with why he doesn't spend time and effort to clean up the streets in the grey quarter, he has more pressing matters with the war; not to mention that building multiple homes takes quite a bit of time, money, rescources, and labor.