Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-26213507-20150928140042/@comment-26801133-20151001112447

Shigeru Thalmor Slayer wrote: Too bad we can't give the Jagged Crown to Balgruuf because between Ulfric and Elisif I don't know which of them is the worst High King. Ulfric is fighting against the wrong enemy and Elisif simply let her advisors second-guess her in front of the whole court. What kind of a leader let her subordinates contradict her in front of everyone?! She didn't even have the sense to talk to them privately first, either, which is what a normal person would do when confronted with leadership issues they can't handle. Balgruuf would make a much better king and he already has heirs. Let Elisif go do...something else...like just sitting besides Balgruuf looking "pretty".

I can totally agree there. Balgruuf is a petty balanced Jarl between caution, dedication, charisma and experience. If it was an option, I would say "screw Elisif and Ulfric, long live King Balgruuf!". Sadly, we have been robbed of that option and must pick the lesser of two evils instead. :(

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Phantasys wrote: DeletedContent wrote: Besides the Balgruff, Brunwulf Free-Winter is another good cantidate, in my opinion. He stands up against inequality, is kind, and seems to be more than intellegent enough to get the job done. Hell, if you side with the Empire and complete the civil war questlite, he'll even become Windhelm's jarl! Hell...no.

There's a difference between inequality and just plain handing out taxpayer gold for refugees. We all gotta start somewhere. Especailly refugees. Besides, people like Maven can afford to donate a little bit of their gold (I'm not saying their entire gold depository or anything, just a fraction of their weath, and a small one at that). K, Donald Trump?

The Dark Elves already received the homes for free. Good, solid homes to, with only the inside being messy from lack of maintance. Which could even be blamed on the Dunmer themselves for not taking care of their homes(see the book: Scourge of the Gray Quarter.) I don't know why they would need more money. To me, that IS pretty much taking taxpayer money, which could go to more guard patrols to keep the Hold safe, to give the Dark Elves a fancier looking interior to their homes, which anyone else is Skyrim(Nord or non-Nord) would never receive anywhere else. I would not want anyone who gives money left and right in misguided compassion to rule Skyrim as High King.

Draevan13 wrote: Brunwulf never said that he's going to just give away money, he's going to 1) renovate the Grey Quarter and 2) increase guard patrols, in order to bring the Quarter on par with the rest of Windhelm.

He also plans on abolishing Ulfric's decree that forbade Argonians from purchasing property inside the city, but then he'll have to wait for either new houses to be built or one of the current residents to move out for it to actually have an effect.

To be clear, he never mentions anything about guard patrols. Considering they are all Legionnaires, I figure it will be more up to the local Imperial Legate than Brunwulf himself. He just says he will do renovations of the Gray Quarter. Which is funny, he never says anything about improving their overall treatment in the city. Just give them fancier homes. Talk about prioritizing peoples needs.

He also doesn't say anything about allowing the Argonians the purchase property in the city. He just mentions he plans to allow them inside the walls. However, what they can actually do once they are inside the city is questionable.