User blog comment:Harold Burned-Mane/Why the Thalmor suck/@comment-16730924-20130912091517/@comment-17114085-20130912121530

The Empire didn't keep order, the redguards and the dunmer left the Empire., and nords are rebeling( doesn't seem like order to me). I do think ever race can unite against the Thalmor, because they are evil and stuff.

Ulfric never said we should unite with the Empire, in Sovergard he just says he wished he picked a better time to fight, because the war made lots of souls go to Sovergard, which gave Alduin an all you can eat buffet.

Talos guide you-Harold Burned-Mane