Board Thread:Lore Discussion/@comment-24420450-20140114023310/@comment-25047024-20140114215735

Digeridude wrote: Sky Above,Voice Within wrote: They're not broken off of Akatosh, they're broken off with Akatosh from the original Time God, AKA. It's not as complicated as I am making it appear, just think at it as all of the dragons being the same, yet with different minds. Another explanation for Alduin's personality is that his intended role was to destroy the world, but he deviated from that path in order to become the world's ruler, as dragons tend to have a certain instinct for dominance. Whoa whoa whoa, let's take a time out for a second. Where did Aka come from? I thought the first two beings of divinity were Anu and Padomay and from them came the Aedra, like Akatosh. If Akatosh wasn't directly from the blood of Anu/Padomay and is a shard equal to the other dragons, does that mean he really isn't deserving of worship and isn't a god in the sense that the other Aedra are?

I'm sorry if I'm just missing it, but I feel like I'm missing a whole lot of lore all of a sudden. If I am, cool, let's get that cleared up right now! :)

Okay...Let me explain it.

So, we all know that the Aurbis is "just" the Godhead's dream. His dream seems to be all about subgradients and dualism.

The Godhead was the "first" thing and is actually anything:                                     Godhead

The Godhead begins to dream. Everything in the dream is him. The first two things are Anu and Padomay. I don't want to list all et'ada that the Godhead dreamed off, but it's like this:

Godhead=

1. Subgradient                                                                       Anu(Order)=                                          Padomay (Chaos)=

2. Subgradient                                                                   Anuiel(Soul of Order/Anu)=                            Sithis(Soul of Chaos/Padomay)=

3. Subgradient                                                                  Original Time God(Aka)=                               Original Space God(Lorkhan)

4. Subgradient                                                                  Time Gods(Akatosh,Auriel,etc.)                     Space Gods(Shor,Shezzar,etc)

5. Subgradient                                                                  Dragons, Dragonborn(?)                                 Shezarrine

NOTE: I'm not so sure about the 5th Subgradient. It would be somewhat logical that a Shezarrine (who is basicly Lorkhan as a mortal) would be the Subgradient of the Space Gods (a smaller shard), but I'm not sure if Dragons and Dragonborns would belong in the 4th Subgradient. The possibly last Subgradient would be Amaranth.

Now, you may wonder why the original Time/Space gods are an earlier Subgradient. That's where mortal believe comes into it.

In TES, mortal believe can form gods. That's one of the reasons why the Thalmor want to eradicate Talos worship; without worship, Talos would be much, much weaker.

Now, imagine mortal believe to be a stone, and imagine the original gods to be windows. Someone (let's say the worshippers) throw this stone at the Windows. What happens? They break into many shards. Some are big, some are small. These shards were once part of the window, and they are technicly still a Window, but broken.

Now, imagine that each of those shards would suddenly begin to develop an own mind. They would start to think for themselves, they would even hate each other.

Now imagine that those shards would start to grow... or become smaller. The more mortals worship one of those shards, the bigger they become, and vice versa.

Now think instead of Windows of Aka and Lorkhan, and instead of glassshards of the Time Gods, Space Gods and Dragons. You should now understand what I mean.