I can understand why Alduin was a simple boss fight at the first time you battle him but why cant the developers do something really epic at the end of the game not the same thing all over again :(
Please give me your ideas on how epic it should have been.
They already did that in Oblivion's Shivering Isles DLC. You fought a shadow version of youself, with all of your attributes, skill levels, weapons, armour, spells and magic resistance/reflection/absorbing. It earned you the blade Shadowrend.
For my version: everything is the same in vanilla except:
1. THERE ARE NO HEROES HELPING YOU. It's just you and Alduin duking it out. (Seriously Bethesda why? It's supposed to be the destiny of the last dragonborn and ONLY the last dragonborn.)
2. Alduin has access to nearly every shout in the game.Alos he has better stats and his AI acts smarter.
3. There's multiple phases which requires you to travel all around Sovngarde, with Alduin taunting you along the way.
Oh and.....
Before the last battle, you'd actually get more cutscenes with Alduin. A few examples could be you trying to save a town from having the same fate as Helgen or witnessing a dragon resurrection....except that the dragon does not want to follow Alduin at all. So then Alduin ends up killing that poor dovah, absorbs his soul, turns to your character and delivers some badass yet dark dialogue.
Or how about a cutscene where Alduin catches your character by surprise, greatly injures them and leaves them for dead, and then Paarthurnax himself comes in and ends up sacrificing his soul to heal your dying dovahkiin, causing a very emotional moment. So then we wouldn't have to deal with the "Kill Paarthurnax or not" conflict with the Blades.
Seriously, we needed more interactions with Alduin.
I like your Idea with Parthurnax, It would give the player more insentive to kill Alduin other than the "it's your destiny" trope. Also it could give you the option of telling the blades he died protecting you, or sacrificed himself. Causing them to honour him or accept that not all dragons are completely evil.
Normal until Alduin dies. Then it looks like you start to absorb his soul, then boom! fiery explosion, knocking you and everyone else off their feet. You try to get up, but not before Alduin picks you up in his mouth and flies straight up with you. He then hurls you into the air where you become trapped by a death mist cyclone. You look like you are going to die, but then your eyes snap open and they are glowing blue. Alduin is flying around going I killed the Dragonborn. You are all doomed. Then you fly out of the death mist cyclone with a blue fire surrounding you. Then you kill Alduin one of three ways. If your Melee skills are highest, you stab him through the head with your weapon, which is also glowing with the blue fire. If you are best at archery, you backflip off his head and triple shot him with arrows that are glowing with said blue fire, or if you are a Mage, you grab either side of his head and channel the blue fire through his body. You then land with an explosion of blue fire and a second later Alduins smoking body lands behind you.
It would be nice visually, but it would add too much over the top-ness (not a real word, but you know what I mean) It's never been Bethesdas way to add big spectacle deaths into their games, especially TES. It might seem good on paper, but in the game it would be like what happened with Bioware and Dragon Age 2. Weaker story for faster, more flashy combat.
Normal until Alduin dies. Then it looks like you start to absorb his soul, then boom! fiery explosion, knocking you and everyone else off their feet. You try to get up, but not before Alduin picks you up in his mouth and flies straight up with you. He then hurls you into the air where you become trapped by a death mist cyclone. You look like you are going to die, but then your eyes snap open and they are glowing blue. Alduin is flying around going I killed the Dragonborn. You are all doomed. Then you fly out of the death mist cyclone with a blue fire surrounding you. Then you kill Alduin one of three ways. If your Melee skills are highest, you stab him through the head with your weapon, which is also glowing with the blue fire. If you are best at archery, you backflip off his head and triple shot him with arrows that are glowing with said blue fire, or if you are a Mage, you grab either side of his head and channel the blue fire through his body. You then land with an explosion of blue fire and a second later Alduins smoking body lands behind you.
It would be nice visually, but it would add too much over the top-ness (not a real word, but you know what I mean) It's never been Bethesdas way to add big spectacle deaths into their games, especially TES. It might seem good on paper, but in the game it would be like what happened with Bioware and Dragon Age 2. Weaker story for faster, more flashy combat.
^ Agreed.
1. He raises skeletal dragons from the ground, maybe two, then two more a few minutes after they die.
2. You get the army of Savngarde at your back, and fight armies of draugr alongside them.
3. You get a blessing so that most shout times are reduced by 50%, so you can be shouting Draugr aroung everywhere.
4. Constant shower of fire.
5. In some epic Nord ruins, sort of like the ones you need to go through before Savngarde, except more open.
6. Some traps in the ruins, so you can pull a laver and light ten Draugr on fire.
7. Five Dragon Priests that are restoring Alduin's health, and you need to kill all of them then combine all five masks to kill Alduin.
8. Make Alduin huge, and give him freakishly high health.
9. When you kill Alduin, it always results in an EPIC unique kill-cam, where you jump on him, he flies in to the sky, you stab him in the head (or cast a huge ball of *current magic*), and he falls from the sky and you jump off.
10. When you kill him, he has a unique fiery absorb animation, and you get a ten dragon souls.
I think they could have saved the final battle with this, but unfortunately they left it at a lousy fight with a normal dragon, and three dead people.
This sounds awesome! But what would be even more awesome for 9 would be that if you use a sword of any kind (preferably a greatsword, but a regular sword would work if you had lvl 100 One-handed), you chop Alduin's head off and then get thrown backward off of him, rather than just stabbing him in the head or neck. Like how Alice from Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland slayed the Jabberwocky. You also get a large amount of recoil damage from his blood, but never enough to kill you if you have low health.
1. He raises skeletal dragons from the ground, maybe two, then two more a few minutes after they die.
2. You get the army of Savngarde at your back, and fight armies of draugr alongside them.
3. You get a blessing so that most shout times are reduced by 50%, so you can be shouting Draugr aroung everywhere.
4. Constant shower of fire.
5. In some epic Nord ruins, sort of like the ones you need to go through before Savngarde, except more open.
6. Some traps in the ruins, so you can pull a laver and light ten Draugr on fire.
7. Five Dragon Priests that are restoring Alduin's health, and you need to kill all of them then combine all five masks to kill Alduin.
8. Make Alduin huge, and give him freakishly high health.
9. When you kill Alduin, it always results in an EPIC unique kill-cam, where you jump on him, he flies in to the sky, you stab him in the head (or cast a huge ball of *current magic*), and he falls from the sky and you jump off.
10. When you kill him, he has a unique fiery absorb animation, and you get a ten dragon souls.
I think they could have saved the final battle with this, but unfortunately they left it at a lousy fight with a normal dragon, and three dead people.
Oooh! That'd be cool too.
i killed Alduin by a 1 SHOT (mephies radar) lol I thought I had a steel dagger put ( 7 second battle)
For those hopelessly obsessed with taking all of the series' lore for granted, it can be argued that Alduin should've been a literal raging firestorm; not a dragon at all in his true form.
He'd take a dragon form sometimes, but can't be damaged by anything other than the most powerful of Frost spells or Stalhrim weapons.
His attack-patterns would change around the fact that he's divine fire, shape-shifting into facsimiles other familiar enemies the Dragonborn has faced, & would be healed by any Fire attacks against him.
Probably a better way would be you would have to get Alduin down to low enough health where he flies off to fully regenerate health. Another dragon would take his place and you have to kill it before refacing Alduin (the other dragons will just be flying around and won't attack until they are up to bat). Then repeat the same thing for the other dragons until they are all dead, in which case you can finally kill Alduin as he comes back to fight for the last time.
Personally I think the 2nd one would be better; it's similar to how Miraak's fight was but somewhat harder.
I dont believe that this would be reasonable. The Last Dragonborn learned of the words of power "Dragonrend" for a reason. So, your player could just use Dragonrend and immobilize him and keep him on the ground so you can proceed to finish him off. Now, even putting into play that this was something that did happen, and they DID make him essential, it would be stupid. But, forcing you to fight a few leveled dragons does sound fun for an equally powerful character.
Just saying that it would be worthless to have looked for the Elder Scroll (Dragon) in the first place, because all we would have learned was just some shout that pulled a Dragon from right out of the sky. Plus, it seems like a two-sided cliche if both Miraak and Alduin had the same boss fight scenario.
In the Lore Alduin is said grow to be the size of a mountain roughly like Ancalgon the Black in The Lord Of The Rings history. He also has a unique three word shout for only him to use which is capable to destroy the world (Nirn) by just using said shout. but Bethesda didn't have the capabilities to create such a boss fight which could be epic cause of the engine they were using to crete Skyrim back in 2008-2011 i think. So they just made it seem like its a part of the lore why u could beat him since he tried to conqour and rule the wrld not trying to destroy it hence he can't grow and why he refuses to use the three word world-destroying shout, i properly explain this elsewhere but i can't find it since itl take a while. but u more or less get the idea of what i'm trying to convey, plus if you don't i suggest u think of Miraak's four word (five word since he has to do it like this: ((dragon's name) Zii Los Dii Du)) but on world wide proportions. and to imagine what the boss fight would be like i suggest u go see "The World-Eater Beater Mod" Alduin in the mod is roughly 3000 Metres and a mountain i think is at least 20000 Meteres. Ancalgon the Black is larger than Mt Everest so Alduin is the same size to search up the height of Mt Everest.
