Black Marsh

Idk if this is a common post on here but I don't think I've seen it on here. Anyways where do you think and want the next Elder Scrolls to take place. I personally think Hammerfell is likely to be where it will be but I would also love to see a game set in Black Marsh.

Okay. This is a redo from my last post. I will try to get better evidence.

Forget the red circle in this picture.

So. As I had stated before, High rock/Hammerfell, Skyrim, Cyrodiil, and an island in Morrowind, and all of tamriel are taken from previous games. SO! If you look in the picture above, there is a little hole right below that red circle.

While the Black Marsh isn't mountainous, there is a marshy hole there. But the Marsh clearly isn't a contender.

SO! If we look at the map again, there is a huge mountain range near the eastern and western edges of Morrowind. and the landscape/generation looks very similar. And if you look at both pictures, the farther end of the land has snow. Both of them do, but Morrowind has less and so does the picture.

And the geographical turn in the map is too sharp than it shows in the trailer. So, as far as I know, High Rock and Hammerfell may not be the location. No where else has mountains besides skyrim and the north of Cyrodiil, but we already had those game. SO! As far as I know, Morrowind may be the place. But you clearly need more evidence.

Note that there is NO island next to the land in the trailer picture, but there is a tiny one on the map north-ish of High Rock. And note that the mountains in Morrowind are darker than in Highrock/Hammerfell. And the picture from the trailer has very dark mountains. And the curve, as said earlier, has a similar bend in both the map on Morrowind's side and in the trailer picture.

And if you look at the red circle again, there is a "Castle" or as I see it, a ruin. What I mean is that there is no city/major location on the map that the red circle marks. But that goes for Both Morrowind and High Rock/Hammerfell.

So, If I am getting this right, TES6 is more likely to take place in the whole Province of Morrowind, than in a Dual Provincial location being Hammerfell and High Rock.

Tell me if I am wrong...

Can someone or all of you give me a brief understanding of the lore of TES (All or any of them). Cuz I just went into the era page and went into the "DAWN ERA" and ended up with 12 other pages open because I don't understand anything about TES at all... I NEED HELP!!! I AM DROWNING IN QUESTIONS THAT AREN'T BEING ANSWERED BECAUSE I KEEP ENDING UP IN OTHER PAGES THAT LEAD TO MORE PAGES THAT LEAD TO MORE PAGES THAT LEAD TO MORE PAGES!!!!!!!!!! SOME ONE HELP!!! I CAN SWIM BUT NOT IN THIS LIQUID!!!

I need help creating a story line for my Elder Scrolls Campaign I'm creating for DND I am open for suggestions, tips and ideas I'm currently in a creativity dry spell. The Campaign is set in the 4th era after the events of the dragonborn defeating Alduin. I have pretty much left the campaign open to anything can happen in any of the provinces of tamriel so please give me some ideas.

I know this might sound dumb but I have an idea for a spin-off game.

We all know that some people want the Elder Scrolls VI to be in Black Marsh but this has one issue with it: according to the lore, other races expect for argonians and the hist can’t survive in Black Marsh due to disease and other health hazards. So unless Bethesda Game Studios breaks the lore, comes up with a random event that gets rid of all the disease, or has your character instantly die as soon as you start the game unless you select argonian, then we can’t have the game in Black Marsh.

But we can have a spin-off game similar to The Elder Scrolls Redguard where you can only play as an argonian. This would allow us to explore all of Black Marsh without dying.

This is just an idea and I don’t expect it to actually happen. Does this sound lame or does it sound cool? Would you play it if it became a real game? I would.

The land of black marsh, a land left behind in time, a land home to trees and reptiles, a land more mysterious than most, a land of dead species, a land of plagues, a land of poverty, a land that has suffered from slavery and racism. This shows what could and shouldn’t happen with plagues, bandits, wild elf’s, and home to a species that know slavery more than every other. Dark elf’s and the septum empire used this as a slavery heaven and prison. Yet it still stands. It may be backwater but think of the hardships this land has suffered.

What are the provinces of Tamriel ranked based on military, economy, and influence. (Note that Orsinium isn't on the list and I'm ranking them based on power during the 4 Era)

1 Cyrodiil: Cyrodiil has lots of influence, the highest economy from trading, and the biggest military.

2 Summerset Isles: They have the most diverse military from warriors to mages, they have influence after taking over lots of Tamriel, and lots of resources from taking over.

3 Black Marsh: They are mysterious and we don't know much about them but there military took over lots of Morrowind and they also took over Mehrunes Dagons oblivion portals in Black Marsh.

4 Hammerfell: They have one of the coolest militaries because of duel-wielding which is fast and high damaging.

5 Skyrim: Skyrim has a really powerful military and is wealthy but they are vulnerable because of the civil war.

6 High Rock: We don't know a lot about them but they probably have a powerful military because they have the most powerful mages.

7 Elsweyr: They also got taken over by the Aldemeri Dominion which probably means they have a weak military.

8 Morrowind: They used to be powerful but the red year and eruption of red mountain pretty much destroyed Morrowind.

9 Valenwood: They are at the bottom because they rely on the Aldemeri dominion and got taken over very easily.

The details of Saxhleel civilization are pretty sparse for obvious reasons, outside of The Argonian Account, and the An-Xileel of the modern day Argonia (which we also barely know anything about) . But of the few details we have, I'm aware of a once-great ancient empire belonging to the Argonians, made up of those old pyramids.

Just curious. Do any of us know anything about them? I'm writing a D&D campaign that takes place in Argonia, and while I can fill in the blanks with my own made-up details, I'd like to know if there's anything I'm missing.

I for a long time assumed Elder Scrolls 6 was going to do with something to Black Marsh, Sithis and the Hist Trees since in Skyrim it is made very clear that the Argonians are on a murder train through Morrowind and with Dovahkiin bringing the Dark Brotherhood into prominence, the void is pleased. BUT when playing Oblivion today, I heard a casual comment about how there has been a rise of daedra worship in The Summerset Ilses.

I thought nothing of it until I realized that's the exact opposite of what any Altmer should ever be doing. even during the Oblivion Crisis Altmer would if anything be more justified to hate daedra not support them. So why does the increase of Daedra worship have to do with the Altmer? Simple, the Ayleids. Soon after the Oblivion crisis ended, the Thalmor took over Summerset then went dark. I think that someone over the coasts perhaps even an ancient Ayleid survive or atleast someone ho agrees with their viewpoints gained power in The Summerset Ilses. Since we all already know that he Thalmor lied about how the Oblivion Crisis ended in order to gain power there is a chance that it was true but not how we think.

We're told how the Thalmor ended the crisis in Summerset, and this tells us two things. One, that the Thalmor were active during the Crisis, and Two, that there isn't a definitive way they stopped it. For all we know and in this theory, they halted the invasion of the Daedra, by surrendering and accepting which ever prince as their new lord hence why they went dark and would later have the power to knock out the moons to get he cats into their fold.

Why would they do this? Of course to get revenge on mankind, that much is very clear. This daedra who could even be a new unnamed prince of ancient Ayleid could desire the destruction of the Empire or the descendants of the Nedes for ruining the sweet deal the Daedrea had with the Ayleids. Turning the Summerset Ilses into a massive slave force. for all we know the population of the Ilses could be unaware of their fiends in control of their nation but are merely being directed against The Empire as a force of slave soldiers. No one would ever expect the Altmer to be in cahoots with the Daedra, which makes this alliance perfect.

You could say that the Thalmor still worship The Eight, there is no way to support their worship of Daedra besides this one throw away line or this new Daedra lord. Well there is one other point to make and that's The Elder Scroll of Blood's prophecy. It states that after Harkon is defeated, that a new dark lord would arise. Many took this as Dovahkiin becoming a vampire lord but it doesn't say it's specific to Skyrim. By some means, with Dovahkiin defeating Harkon, this new dark lord was given the ability to rise up. Probably because Molag Bal just lost one of his most powerful Courts of Vampires but whoever they are, they were uplifted with Harkon' defeat.

So, I think this dark lord was also a Vampire, and not just any vampire an Ayleid vampire. As we all know they worshiped the Daedra and there is of course going to be atleast one of them that was a vampire. Now this vampire could of been silently affecting the Summerset Ilses for thousands of years, like Harkon was doing to Skyrim. So after his defeat, this unknown person was likely approached by Molag Bal and promoted since Harkon was gone. With the rise of the Dovahkiin killing Harkon, Molag wouldn't be all to happy about that so this hidden figure likely revealed itself. After centuries of turning the Summerset Ilses into a slave army they were given the blood of a Vampire lord by Molag Bal and likely told to start another great war. With the Emperor dead and Skyrim drained from dragons and civil war, there is no better time for the Dominion to attack but this time backed up with a Daedra army.

Hell who is to say that the very thing couldn't be happening to the Argonians in Black Marsh as well, hence their sudden rise in aggression to the dark elves. This could of been another attempt at weakening the empire by forcing two provinces against each other. If you wondering how ht Argoinains could be tainted, it is said during the Crisis, the Hist warned them about the attack and they were more then prepared for the assault of the Daedra and are actually know for charging through the portals into oblivion even setting up a FOB while in there. This is what makes me believe they too could be corrupted. Even a powerful legendary dragon like Durnuvir can be corrupted fro staying in Oblivion for too long. So what hope would mortals have when defending themselves from the corrupting nature of that hellscape?

And to top this all off is the fact that Molag Bal already attempted to assault the mortal realms in the 2nd era. So why wouldn't try again not only after Dagon already softened the world up for him? It's the perfect plan.

Use the mortals to fight themselves and when they're all but dust send in your own troops to take over everything else.

Ah- Lei: Your name is Khaaza?

Khaaza nods.

Khaaza: Yes Argonian, and you are?

Ah-Lei: I’m-I’m Ah-Lei.

Khaaza: let me help you child.

Khaaza picks up the top of the trap and throughs it in the murky swamp of black marsh. He grabs Ah-Lei’s hand and helps him out.

Khaaza: How old are you argonian?

Ah-Lei: I’m 16.

Cantemiric Velothi

Who were they? it would appear they weren't Aylids,

But much like the 4 races ofMen and the Lilmothiit we Know very little of the old races of Black Marsh, we know so little of the other Argonians The Naga, the Winged Sarpa, the Toad Like Paatru,the Needle Faced Agacephs..

Why is Black marsh and its many races and Faces Glossed over so much?

As intresting as Akavir and the Relems of Oblivion are why can i never find anything past "Tree Loving lizards! and the occasional Fox People! Silver Skins!"

TLDR; why is Black marsh so untouched and why are the other races/sub races hardly touched on?

Hammerfell is an option. A civil war just ended because Hammerfell had to unite in order to drive the Aldmeri Dominion out of Hammerfell. There could be a DLC where you can travel to Yokuda, since the Redguards are originally from Yokuda. Traveling to Yokuda could also be apart of the regular game. Yokuda isn't a big island, but there could be civil war quest line because Yokuda has a past with a few civil wars.

Argonians are the only race that can enter the center of Black Marsh (Helstrom). This makes Black Marsh not completely explorable, and some major events have to do with Helstrom. Black Marsh doesn't make a very fitting TESVI game in my opinion.

All of Valenwood can be explored in ESO, unless Bethesda wants to do more with Valenwood, I don't think it's being considered.

Elsweyr could be an interesting place for TESVI to be placed. Elsweyr is mostly a ton of desert and some forests like there are in Valenwood. There is nothing super interesting going on. If Bethesda chose Elsweyr, maybe they could have a quest line investigating the assassination of the Mane (the government leader). Another quest line could look into why Elsweyr joined the Aldmeri Dominion, and then also why they joined back into the Empire, even though in lore, it says the Empire destroyed the Numidium, which in the end, poisoned quite a bit of Elsweyr, making it uninhabitable, which then made the Khajiit hate the Empire.

Let me know what you think about this topic and if I missed anything.

The following have all been featured in games already:

High Rock - Daggerfall

Morrowind - Morrowind

Cyrodiil - Oblivion

Skyrim - Skyrim

Valenwood - ESO