Hi! I recently got The Elder Scrolls Anthology, and was wondering if the copies of Arena and Daggerfall, (which are not the DOS version) can be used twice, or on more than one computer?
I know how to download and install them, but I when I try to run them, and the built in DOS comes up, all it shows me is a bunch of random code.
Thanks! I would also need some instruction on running them...
Hi! I recently got The Elder Scrolls Anthology, and was wondering if the copies of Arena and Daggerfall, (which are not the DOS version) can be used twice, or on more than one computer?
"They gave away Hammerfell..."
Am I the only person who sees the genius behind this decision? The Emperor didn't have much of a choice, the Empire was already conceding to the Thalmor. If the Empire didn't "give Hammerfell away," then they would've been forced into another civil war--this one being against the Redguards--in order to comply with the concessions given to the Thalmor. By "giving Hammerfell away," the Empire might've saved a lot of lives. Not only that, but it enabled the Redguards to continue their war with the Aldmeri Dominion on their own accord. The Empire should've done the same thing with Skyrim. Perhaps Hammerfell and Skyrim would've bonded together to eradicate the Third Aldmeri Dominion, and then they could've rejoined the Imperial Empire afterward; or formed an Empire all their own.
Basically, I don't think the Empire "gave away Hammerfell." I think they set them free.
Think of it like this: say your house burns down, but you manage to escape the flames with your beloved pet, Spike. Unfortunately for Spike, your next residence doesn't allow canine companions. Would you rather kill your dog, or release him into the wild so that he might have a chance to survive?
THE ONLY AVAILABLE TROOPS THE ALDMERI DOMINION HAD LEFT AFTER THE BATTLE OF RED RING WERE THE ONES STATIONED WITHIN HAMMERFELL!!!
Instead of giving away an entire fucking country and abandoning it's people he could have sent support to eradicate the AD army and the AD would no longer be a threat to anyone.
It endagered the lives of more redguard than anything, send reinforcements to eliminate the enemy... or give them complete control? If you consider the second option you should be removed from a decision making position. It doesn't matter how many lives they saved if they could have potentially saved all of them.
It's more like "your house has caught fire, do you use the fire extinguisher that is in your hands... or do you throw your child at the fire and run away then throw gasoline at your other child when he grabs the fire extinguisher to put the fire out."
and any person who truley cared about their pet wouldn't stop looking for a new home for themselves if they couldn't keep their pet, or at the very least find the pet a good home, if your only options are kill it or abandon it, then you should have never been left responsible for it.
Well then I believe we have come to an agreement; The Emperor makes bad decisions. That's what I was implying towards the end of my "Why Side With The Imperials" topic. The Empire would be a whoe helluva lot better without Mede. It's not the Empire itself, that the Stormcloaks should be against, but the Emperor.
Closing
The reason I fight for the stormcloaks is because the empire had the chance to rid tamriel of the thalmor when their only army was a small force in hammerfell, and instead of helping destroy that army and then destroying any opposing defense forces stationed in the AD controlled regions, they gave away hammerfell, allowed the thalmor to poison skyrim, were in the process of giving away a portion of skyrim, and fight against a man who they imprisoned for accepting a reward for doing a job they should have.
Am I the only person who sees the genius behind this decision? The Emperor didn't have much of a choice, the Empire was already conceding to the Thalmor. If the Empire didn't "give Hammerfell away," then they would've been forced into another civil war--this one being against the Redguards--in order to comply with the concessions given to the Thalmor. By "giving Hammerfell away," the Empire might've saved a lot of lives. Not only that, but it enabled the Redguards to continue their war with the Aldmeri Dominion on their own accord. The Empire should've done the same thing with Skyrim. Perhaps Hammerfell and Skyrim would've bonded together to eradicate the Third Aldmeri Dominion, and then they could've rejoined the Imperial Empire afterward; or formed an Empire all their own.
Basically, I don't think the Empire "gave away Hammerfell." I think they set them free.
Think of it like this: say your house burns down, but you manage to escape the flames with your beloved pet, Spike. Unfortunately for Spike, your next residence doesn't allow canine companions. Would you rather kill your dog, or release him into the wild so that he might have a chance to survive?
This is another good point. Everyone thinks it was a "bad move" to let Hammerfell go as a province, but in all honesty, you're right, it did spare many lives. I had never considered it the way you are putting it though, good metaphor. Although I don't think some of your assumptions will turn out to be true. Skyrim and Hammerfell have very tense relations, so they probably wouldn't form an alliance, plus you have to take into consideration that the Nords aren't very appreciative of outsiders. Also, I don't believe that Hammerfell will rejoin the Empire for a while. Some Redguards are still very bitter about being "abandoned" by the Empire.
-Mede refused to fight on after the Battle of the Red Ring.
-Mede gave in and signed the Concordat.
-Mede allowed the Thalmor to send Justiciars into the Empire to hunt Talos worshippers.
Mede, Mede, Mede. Abandonning the Empire that brought peace and prosperity for centuries because of a single incompetent leader seems idiotic to me. Humanity just needs a new, better leader to unify them. I just hope it's not Ulfric. Despite what Stormcloak supporters ardently believe, I still believe he's another opportunist taking advantage of the times to seize power.
Exactly. It's not the Empire itself, it's just the Emperor, If say, a Septim Emperor were still alive, or even if the head of The Elder Council were in charge, then perhaps the Great War would have ended differently. Remember, The Thalmor were just as weak as the Empire, if not weaker, so The Empire could have won.
Why Side With The Imperials?
The Imperials have provided a strong scapegoat for many of the Stormcloak's probelms. Including; the ban on Talos worship, surrendering to the Thalmor, and becoming weak. While these have some truth, the Stormcloaks exaggerate these problems intensely. Sure the Empire has lost territory in the past, but it still retains much of it's resources and military power, getting troops from High Rock, Orsinium, and Cyrodiil. Morrowind, has also not renounced it's eligibility as a province either. And what of Ulfric? He claims to want to "Take the fight to the Thalmor", yet he himself, is being used by them!(Not denying that the Empire isn't being manipulated, in fact this is supported by the fact that there is a Thalmor Embassy in Solitude.) In fact, this war helps the Thalmor, making the Empire weaker, and directing it's attention away from Summerset. This war weakens both sides, and once both are weak enough, The Thalmor will step in, and assume control, and If the Stormcloaks had not started the war, The Empire could be figuring out ways to beat back the Thalmor, and even bring back worship of Talos. The entire Empire, without the Civil War, would be more powerful than just Skyrim alone. I don't deny that the Empire has fallen on hard times, this is true, but does that mean we just abandon it? No, damnit, we will fight! Maybe a few leadership changes will have to be made, (I'm an Empire supporter, and even I think that Mede's tactics aren't working), But defeating the Thalmor is possible.
Things About The Stormcloaks You Might Not Know
Remember the Forsworn occupation of the Reach, that happened during the Great War? How Ulfric "saved" the Reach? Well what the stories fail to tell you, is that during that time of Forsworn control, there was peace within the Reach. Sure the occasional Nord was robbed, but it was often those who were harshest on the native workers. After the Great War, but before a peace treaty could be made with the Forsworn, Ulfric led a militia into Markarth. The events within the battle was war, but the atrocities after, are considered to be war crimes. Ulfric had every Forsworn official executed, even After they had surrendered. He ordered the death of EVERY citizen, Nord and Forsworn alike, who had not helped him, or had stayed neutral during his siege of the Reach. Then, he had the women tortured to reveal the locations of Forsworn fighters, who had fled the city during the battle. Read The Bear of Markarth
Ulfric uses the ban on Talos worship as a smoke screen to gain the High Throne. After all, all of the Stormcloaks want him to "Take his place as the rightful High King". This also strengthens my dislike for him, seeing as how a person with greedy ambitions, can never be fully righteous. He is also a puppet of the Thalmor. Maybe not knowing, and if he did know, maybe not willing, but a puppet nonetheless.
Racism
Baldur makes some pretty good points on his Stormcloak Bible, but there is one I fully disagree with: Racism. He claims that the Empire is racist in general, which may be true, due to their control-and-conquer style of thinking, but which is more racist? The Stormcloaks dislike all non-Nord races in general, preventing them from doing certain things, whereas the Empire conquers a place, and merges a race's culture into their own.
Closing
I personally believe that The Imperials are the lesser of two evils, when it comes down to it, and may provide better protection against the impeding Thalmor threat, but when it comes down to it, it all boils down to the players opinion, and decision.