A New Order is a quest in The Elder Scrolls V: Dawnguard. Serving as the fourth quest in the main storyline, "A New Order" begins with a vampire attack on Fort Dawnguard.


Upon returning to Fort Dawnguard, several vampires attack the stronghold, but are engaged by Durak, Celann, Isran, and Vori. After the battle, Isran asks the Dragonborn to recruit a Nord named Gunmar and a Breton named Sorine Jurard to help the cause.

Recruit GunmarEdit

Gunmar can be found at a radiant location. He says he's been hunting a bear for two weeks and he first wants to kill the animal to stop it from killing people. After helping him kill the bear, he'll head to Fort Dawnguard to see why Isran needs his help.

Recruit Sorine JurardEdit

Sorine can be found west of Druadach Redoubt and south of Darkfall Cave near a Dwemer ruin. She initially complains that she has lost her satchel of Dwemer gyros and requires one before she agrees to leave.

Sorine's Satchel containing seven Dwemer gyros can be found on the river bank nearby, about three paces south east towards the river near a tree rooted in the rock. Alternatively, any Dwemer gyro collected prior to meeting her will suffice. With a high enough Speech level, she can also be persuaded to go immediately to Fort Dawnguard.


After arriving at Fort Dawnguard, Isran tests both newcomers for vampirism by shining a beam of sunlight into the center of the entrance hall. If the Dragonborn is a vampire, he won't grant membership until the vampirism has been cured and will suggest that Falion in Morthal is visited. This begins the quest "Rising at Dawn."

He tells Gunmar and Sorine about the current situation after clearing them. He will then summon the Dragonborn upstairs. The quest completes and the next quest, "Prophet," begins. The next time the interior of Fort Dawnguard is visited, Sorine and Gunmar will have changed into Dawnguard armor and opened up their shops as the general goods and blacksmith merchants, respectively.


A New Order – DLC1HunterBaseIntro
IDJournal Entry
  • Objective 10: Meet Tolan at Stendarr's Beacon
20 I've rejected Harkon's offer to be turned into a vampire. Now I need to return to Isran and tell him what I've learned.
  • Objective 20: Speak with Isran
30 I've told Isran what I learned at the vampire castle. Isran has asked me to find Sorine Jurard and Gunmar, and bring them to him.
  • Objective 30: Recruit Sorine Jurard
  • Objective 40: Recruit Gunmar
  • Objective 50: Recruit Florentius Baenius
  • Objective 45: Help Gunmar defeat the bear
  • Objective 47: Speak to Gunmar
70 I've found the people Isran said we'd need to fight Harkon and his vampires. Now I should return to Isran and help him formulate a plan of attack.
  • Objective 60: Return to Isran
200 After rejecting Harkon's offer to become a vampire, I returned to Isran and informed him of what I've learned. I helped him recruit several people into the Dawnguard who can help us fight the vampires.
  • Quest complete


This section contains bugs related to A New Order. Before adding a bug to this list, consider the following:

  1. Please reload an old save to confirm if the bug is still happening.
  2. If the bug is still occurring, please post the bug report with the appropriate system template  360  / XB1  ,  PS3  / PS4  ,  PC  / MAC  ,  NX  , depending on which platform(s) the bug has been encountered on.
  3. Be descriptive when listing the bug and fixes, but avoid having conversations in the description and/or using first-person anecdotes: such discussions belong on the appropriate forum board.
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  •  360   Sometimes when you have a bounty in the hold the character is in they will attack.  To fix this get your bounty cleared.
  •  360   PS3   After killing the bear in Pine Peak Cavern, the quest never completes nor will Gunmar talk to the Dragonborn.
  •  PC   360   Isran and all of the other Dawnguard members will become hostile and attack.
    • Solution: Exit to Skyrim, wait 24 hours, and then return to Dayspring Canyon.
  •  PC   360   Sorine won't accept the gyros from her satchel or from the player.
  •  360   In Bonechill Passage and Cronvangr Cave, the bear is nowhere to be found, may have something to do with doing the Companions quest: "Animal Extermination" in the same area as "A New Order."
    • Solution: Wait 32 in-game days from the time you completed the Companions quest; the cave should respawn new bears.
    • There is a chance that the bears may never spawn in Cronvangr Cave. The only solution then is to reload the save before getting the quest.
  •  PC   360   PS3   After recruiting Gunmar and Sorine and returning to Fort Dawnguard to talk to Isran, the raised gates will not lower and nothing will happen after Isran finishes his line.
    • Solution: Exit Fort Dawnguard and wait 24 hours. 
    • Other possible solution: Shoot Isran with a crossbow or other weapon while hidden. He will not be hostile, the gates should go down, and the quest will advance.
    • Another possible solution: If the gates go up and the NPCs aren't in the center with you (which is a sign that the bug has been triggered), immediately leave Fort Dawnguard and reenter.
  •  PC   Sorine's satchel will not be on the shore at all.
    • Solution: Find 7 Dwemer Gyros in a Dwemer ruin or Fort Dawnguard and return them to her.
  •  360   You are able to completely skip this quest if you don't return at all before returning to Lord Harkon a second time.
  •  PC   360   PS3   The quest marker isn't shown while recruiting Gunmar. If Dragonborn is installed, then there is a chance that Gunmar is on Horker Island, just off the eastern shore of Solstheim, so he could be there.
  • There is a chance that going to Sorine before Gunmar, the quest marker may not show up.
  •  PS3   Upon entering Fort Dawnguard, Sorine and the Dragonborn will be in the center of the room, and Gunmar will be outside the raised western gate. All Characters will go through their dialogue, and then nothing will happen.
    • Solution: Leave the fort, and immediately re-enter.
  •  PC   Upon entering Fort Dawnguard, the gates will raise, Sorine and Gunmar will not be present, Isran will be silent. After waiting, they appear, and Harkon is accompanying them, making it impossible to proceed.
  •  PS3   Upon entering Fort Dawnguard, the gates will raise, Sorine and Gunmar will not be present, and Isran will not say anything.
    • Solution: Leave the fort, and immediately re-enter.

[[Category:Dawnguard: Main Quests]

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