Balgruuf the Greater

For other uses, see Jarl Balgruuf.

Balgruuf the Greater is the Nord Jarl of Whiterun Hold, residing in his great hall, Dragonsreach. He is a major character in the main quest of Skyrim.

Physical appearance[]

Jarl Balgruuf wears noble clothes, fur-lined boots, and a gold and ruby circlet for a crown. The Jarl's weapon is a unique war axe (which can only be acquired through Pickpocket) that carries his name—Balgruuf's War Axe. If the Dragonborn fights Balgruuf in "Battle for Whiterun," he will equip Steel Plate Armor, minus the helmet.

Family[]

He has a brother named Hrongar, and three children, Frothar, Dagny, and Nelkir. No one ever mentions the Jarl's spouse. Nelkir mentions how he does not have the same mother as Dagny and Frothar during the quest "The Whispering Door."

Personality[]

"If it's the war you're referring to, I'm on the side of Whiterun."

―Balgruuf the Greater^[src]

While eventually becoming loyal to the Empire, he puts Whiterun's interests first, many times denying the Imperial Legion permission to garrison soldiers in his city so as not to portray martial law―if he is asked what side he is on in the war, he will say that he is "on the side of Whiterun," showing a great sense of loyalty towards Whiterun. In his neutral stance, he remarks that he may well be obligated to support one or both sides; the Empire as a province, the Stormcloaks out of loyalty to Skyrim. Indeed, he will only express open hatred of the Stormcloak Rebellion after the Dragonborn chooses a side in the Civil War, slandering them if they seize Whiterun with the Stormcloak army; according to Gerdur, Balgruuf and Ulfric had been at odds for years and fears Balgruuf will side with the Empire out of spite.^[1] Balgruuf's distaste for the Stormcloaks may stem from the fact that he had refused to declare for either side, but Ulfric attacked Whiterun anyway by deeming anyone who didn't support him as an enemy. He is generally more interested in dragons than the Civil War in which he is involved. Since Whiterun's provisions were terribly diminished during the Skyrim Civil War and Ulfric's uprising had doubled the costs of goods, Balgruuf ultimately sided with the Empire in order to preserve the more lucrative trade agreements with the Empire.

According to his son Nelkir, he still worships Talos and hates the Thalmor as much as Ulfric and the other Nords do, if not more. If encountered at the party at the Thalmor Embassy, he will make this view very clear and will also be more than happy to disrupt the proceedings on behalf of the Dragonborn.

Balgruuf has strong bonds with his friend and Housecarl, Irileth, whom he fought alongside with during his time in the Legion. As such, she rarely lets him out of her sight and berates him for a lack of concern for his personal safety.

According to the Official Game Guide, Balgruuf is viewed by many as the embodiment of a true Nord and his allegiance with the Empire as having actually convinced many would-be Stormcloaks that the Empire may actually be the answer to Skyrim's problems.

Interactions[]

Dragon Rising and The Way of the Voice[]

After the Dragonborn appears before the Jarl to tell him of the dragon attack on Helgen, the Dragonborn learns that another dragon, Mirmulnir, is attacking the Western Watchtower. Together with Irileth and several Whiterun Guards, the Dragonborn defeats the dragon and returns to the Jarl. Jarl Balgruuf then dubs the Dragonborn Thane of Whiterun, therefore the Dragonborn receives Lydia as their Housecarl. Balgruuf then advises that they visit the Greybeards at High Hrothgar for instruction on how to learn the Thu'um.

The Fallen[]

The Dragonborn needs to trap a dragon in Dragonsreach with the Jarl's help.

Season Unending[]

Balgruuf is present during the peace negotiations between the Imperials and the Stormcloaks.

Message to Whiterun[]

Deliver Ulfric's axe to Jarl Balgruuf or deliver Balgruuf's axe to Ulfric. (depends on whether the Dragonborn sides with the Imperials or Stormcloaks)

Battle for Whiterun[]

At first, Balgruuf will remain neutral in the Civil War. But once the Dragonborn chooses a side, Balgruuf will eventually decide to help the Imperial Legion, regardless of which side the Dragonborn chose. If the Dragonborn sided with the Legion, Balgruuf will give a speech at the end of the battle. Alternatively, siding with the Stormcloaks means the Dragonborn must fight Balgruuf, Irileth, and several of the Whiterun Guards during the assault. If Vignar Gray-Mane becomes Jarl of Whiterun, Balgruuf, along with Irileth and Proventus, travel to the Blue Palace in Solitude, seeking refuge with Imperial sympathizer Elisif the Fair.

Glory of the Dead[]

He is seen at Kodlak Whitemane's funeral if he is the Jarl of Whiterun.

Gifts[]

Once the Dragonborn is recognized as a Thane of Whiterun, they are given a housecarl named Lydia, who can serve as their follower. Additionally, he grants the Dragonborn permission to purchase Breezehome, a house in Whiterun, for 5000 . He also presents the leveled Axe of Whiterun to the Dragonborn, a status symbol of the Thanes of Whiterun. A sword, rather than an axe, may be received.

The Whispering Door[]

Balgruuf is having problems with his son Nelkir, whose personality seems to have turned dark.

Diplomatic Immunity[]

Balgruuf may be one of the guests at the party.

Dialogue[]

"May the gods watch over your battles, friend."

Whose side are you on? "If it's the war you're referring to, I'm on the side of Whiterun. No doubt General Tullius and his friends in the Empire will tell you that I owe them my loyalty, and perhaps I do. Ulfric Stormcloak would say that I owe my allegiance to the Nord people as they fight for Skyrim's independence. Perhaps this is also true. The day might come when I am forced to draw my sword for one side or the other. But that day has not come yet."

Why do you think Ulfric killed the High King? "No doubt he thought it was the only way to make his point. And also because he knew he could."

How can you protect Whiterun from the dragons? "With good planning and constant vigilance. Even now, my court wizard, Farengar, continues his research into ways we might drive back these... terrors. We must also have ample reserves of water to combat the fires that will surely spread after an attack. But our greatest weapon? Courage. For if we cannot kill the beast, we must at least have the tenacity to drive it back. Until brave heroes step forward to destroy these monsters, that is the best we can do."

"Now if you don't mind, I've got a city to keep."

Show: Before the Storm
In Dragonsreach: "Well. I trust you have something vitally important to tell me. Important enough to interrupt me in the middle of council? (Or "What's this about Riverwood being in danger?" or "So. You were at Helgen? You saw this dragon with your own eyes?" depending on the conversation with Irileth prior.)" A dragon destroyed Helgen. Alvor (Or "Gerdur" if Ralof is followed instead of Hadvar.) is afraid Riverwood is next. "Alvor? The smith, isn't he? Reliable, solid fellow. Not prone to flights of fancy... And you're sure Helgen was destroyed by a dragon? This wasn't some Stormcloak raid gone wrong? (Or "Gerdur? Owns the lumber mill, if I'm not mistaken. Pillar of the community. Not prone to flights of fancy...")" Yes. I had a great view while the Imperials were trying to cut off my head. "Really? You're certainly... forthright about your criminal past. But it's none of my concern who the Imperials want to execute. Especially now. What I want to know is what exactly happened at Helgen." I was there. I saw the dragon burn Helgen to the ground. "By Ysmir, Irileth was right!" I have news from Helgen. About the dragon attack. "You were at Helgen when it was attacked? You saw this dragon with your own eyes?" Yes. I had a great view while the Imperials were trying to cut off my head. "Really? You're certainly... forthright about your criminal past. But it's none of my concern who the Imperials want to execute. Especially now. What I want to know is what exactly happened at Helgen." The Imperials were about to execute Ulfric Stormcloak. Then the dragon attacked. "I should have guessed Ulfric would be mixed up in this." The dragon destroyed Helgen. And last I saw it was heading this way. "By Ysmir, Irileth was right!" After the conversation with his council he will say the following dialogue and hand you a piece of leveled armor: "Well done. You sought me out, on your own initiative. You've done Whiterun a service, and I won't forget it. Here, take this as a small token of my esteem." "There is another thing you could do for me. Suitable for someone of your particular talents, perhaps. Come, let's go find Farengar, my court wizard. He's been looking into a matter related to these dragons and... rumors of dragons."

Show: Dragon Rising
After Balgruuf converses with his council: "There's no time to stand on ceremony, my friend. I need your help again. I want you to go with Irileth and help her fight this dragon. You survived Helgen, so you have more experience with dragons than anyone else here. But I haven't forgotten the service you did for me in retrieving the Dragonstone for Farengar. As a token of my esteem, I instructed Avenicci that you are now permitted to purchase property in the city. And please accept this gift from my personal armory." Returning after killing Mirmulnir: "So what happened at the watchtower? Was the dragon there?" The watchtower was destroyed, but we killed the dragon. "I knew I could count on Irileth. But there must be more to it than that." Turns out I may be something called "Dragonborn." "Dragonborn? What do you know about the Dragonborn?" When the dragon died, I absorbed some kind of power from it. "So it's true. The Greybeards really were summoning you." The Greybeards? "Masters of the Way of the Voice. They live in seclusion high on the slopes of the Throat of the World." What do these Greybeards want with me? "The Dragonborn is uniquely gifted in the Voice - the ability to focus your vital essence into a Thu'um, or Shout. If you really are Dragonborn, they can teach you how to use your gift." That's just what the men called me. "Not just the men. The Greybeards seem to think the same thing." The Greybeards? "Masters of the Way of the Voice. They live in seclusion high on the slopes of the Throat of the World." What do these Greybeards want with me? "The Dragonborn is uniquely gifted in the Voice - the ability to focus your vital essence into a Thu'um, or Shout. If you really are Dragonborn, they can teach you how to use your gift." When the dragon died, I absorbed some kind of power from it. "So it's true. The Greybeards really were summoning you." Turns out I may be something called "Dragonborn." "Dragonborn? What do you know about the Dragonborn?" When the dragon died, I absorbed some kind of power from it. "So it's true. The Greybeards really were summoning you." The Greybeards? "Masters of the Way of the Voice. They live in seclusion high on the slopes of the Throat of the World." What do these Greybeards want with me? "The Dragonborn is uniquely gifted in the Voice - the ability to focus your vital essence into a Thu'um, or Shout. If you really are Dragonborn, they can teach you how to use your gift." I killed the dragon, I think I deserve a reward. "There's no question about that. It was a mighty deed. You've earned a place of honor among the heroes of Whiterun. But there must be more to it than that. Did something... strange... happen when the dragon died?" Turns out I may be something called "Dragonborn." "Dragonborn? What do you know about the Dragonborn?" When the dragon died, I absorbed some kind of power from it. "So it's true. The Greybeards really were summoning you." The Greybeards? "Masters of the Way of the Voice. They live in seclusion high on the slopes of the Throat of the World." What do these Greybeards want with me? "The Dragonborn is uniquely gifted in the Voice - the ability to focus your vital essence into a Thu'um, or Shout. If you really are Dragonborn, they can teach you how to use your gift." When the dragon died, I absorbed some kind of power from it. "So it's true. The Greybeards really were summoning you." The Greybeards? "Masters of the Way of the Voice. They live in seclusion high on the slopes of the Throat of the World." What do these Greybeards want with me? "The Dragonborn is uniquely gifted in the Voice - the ability to focus your vital essence into a Thu'um, or Shout. If you really are Dragonborn, they can teach you how to use your gift." After a conversation between the Jarl and his council: "You've done a great deed for me and my city, Dragonborn. By my right as Jarl, I name you Thane of Whiterun. It's the greatest honor that's within my power to grant. I assign you Lydia as a personal Housecarl, and this weapon from my armory to serve as your badge of office. I'll also notify my guards of your new title. Wouldn't want them to think you're part of the common rabble, now would we? We are honored to have you as Thane of our city, Dragonborn."

Show: The Way of the Voice
In Dragonsreach: "It pleases me to see you again." What's it mean to be Dragonborn? "Well, in the old tales, the Dragonborn heroes would use the power of their Voice to defeat the enemies of Skyrim. Wulfharth was Dragonborn. Talos, too - the founder of the Empire, back in the good old days. In the very oldest tales, back from when there still were dragons in Skyrim, the Dragonborn would slay dragons and steal their power." Who are the Greybeards? "They're the masters of the Way of the Voice - of Shouting. They live up on top of the Throat of the World. If you're really Dragonborn, they'll want to talk to you. In the old stories, they always summon the Dragonborn for training." What do you know about Shouts? "In the old tales, Nord heroes would use the power of their Voice to Shout down the gates of cities and strike down their enemies. But only the Greybeards study the Way of the Voice any more. If you can Shout... you need to talk to them."

Show: The Fallen
In Dragonsreach: "May the gods watch over your battles, friend." I need your help. I need to trap a dragon in your palace. "I must have misheard you. I thought you asked me to help you trap a dragon in my palace." You know I wouldn't ask if it wasn't important. (Persuade) "I'm sorry, but I can't do it. We'll just have to keep fighting the dragons as best we can." I need your help. I need to trap a dragon in your palace. "What you're asking for is insane. Impossible! You want me to let a dragon into the heart of my city, with the threat of war on my doorstep?" It's the only way to stop the dragon attacks. "There must be another way. The risk is too great." The threat is worse than you know. Alduin has returned. "Alduin? The World-Eater himself? But... how can we fight him? Doesn't his return mean it's the end times?" It's only hopeless if we give up. "I didn't say anything about giving up. Now, what's this nonsense about trapping a dragon in my palace?" It's the only way to find Alduin before it's too late. "I want to help you, Dragonborn. And I will. But I need your help first. Ulfric and General Tullius are both just waiting for me to make a wrong move. Do you think they will sit idle while a dragon is slaughtering my men and burning my city? No, I can't risk weakening the city while we are under threat of enemy attack. I'm sorry." What if you didn't have to worry about an enemy attack? "Then I would be happy to help you with your dragon-trapping scheme. But getting both sides to agree to a truce will be difficult at this point. The bitterness has gone too deep. Maybe... hmm... what of the Greybeards? They are respected by all Nords. High Hrothgar is neutral territory. If the Greybeards were willing to host a peace council... then maybe Ulfric and Tullius would have to listen." Leave that to me. I'll talk to Arngeir about hosting a peace council. "Aye, Dragonborn. Maybe you can stop the dragons - and this war into the bargain." I'm Dragonborn. It's my destiny to stop him. "I don't know about such things, but I heard the Greybeards summon you. That's good enough for me." Dragonsreach was built to hold a dragon? "According to legend. Although I never thought to put the tale to the test. Jarl Olaf One-Eye it was, who later, became High King. They say he Shouted it into submission in single combat atop Mount Anthor and brought it back to Whiterun. Numinex was the dragon's name. That's his skull decorating the main hall." You heard right. It's the only way to stop the dragons. "What you're asking for is insane. Impossible! You want me to let a dragon into the heart of my city, with the threat of war on my doorstep?" The threat is worse than you know. Alduin has returned. "Alduin? The World-Eater himself? But... how can we fight him? Doesn't his return mean it's the end times?" It's only hopeless if we give up. "I didn't say anything about giving up. Now, what's this nonsense about trapping a dragon in my palace?" I'm Dragonborn. It's my destiny to stop him. "I don't know about such things, but I heard the Greybeards summon you. That's good enough for me." It's the only way to find Alduin before it's too late. "I want to help you, Dragonborn. And I will. But I need your help first. Ulfric and General Tullius are both just waiting for me to make a wrong move. Do you think they will sit idle while a dragon is slaughtering my men and burning my city? No, I can't risk weakening the city while we are under threat of enemy attack. I'm sorry." What if you didn't have to worry about an enemy attack? "Then I would be happy to help you with your dragon-trapping scheme. But getting both sides to agree to a truce will be difficult at this point. The bitterness has gone too deep. Maybe... hmm... what of the Greybeards? They are respected by all Nords. High Hrothgar is neutral territory. If the Greybeards were willing to host a peace council... then maybe Ulfric and Tullius would have to listen." Leave that to me. I'll talk to Arngeir about hosting a peace council. "Aye, Dragonborn. Maybe you can stop the dragons - and this war into the bargain." After signing the truce: "We're ready, Dragonborn. Just say the word." Are you ready to spring the trap on the dragon? "As I promised, my men stand ready. The great chains are oiled. We wait on your word." Not quite yet. "Now that it's upon us, I'm rather looking forward to the challenge. I'll be famouser than Olaf One-Eye!" I'm ready. Let's go trap a dragon. "My men know what to do. Make sure you do your part. I'm putting my city in your hands."

Show: Season Unending
In Dragonsreach: Are you ready to spring the trap on the dragon? "My men will be ready when you are, Dragonborn. You have a truce to arrange first, eh?"

Show: Message to Whiterun (Imperial)
In Dragonsreach: I have an important message from General Tullius. "No doubt requesting to garrison his men in my castle. How many times must I deny him? Well? Out with it." Ulfric plans to attack Whiterun. The General wants to lend Legion troops. "I see... Give the papers to my Steward." I was given strict instructions. For the Jarl's eyes only. "Don't be daft. Proventus is my eyes. Just give me the letter. I presume once I have it, I can do as I please with it? Good." ... "Hmm... these are interesting reports..." If interrupted during the beginning of the conversation between Balgruuf and his council: "One moment. But don't go far. I expect I'll need you." After a short discussion, if not interrupted: "You there. I have a message for you to deliver to our friend, the esteemed Jarl of Windhelm. Deliver this axe to Ulfric Stormcloak." An axe? "How long have you been in Skyrim? Yes. Give the man my axe. If he returns it to you it means we have business to settle. If he keeps it, then we are at peace." Should I say anything to him? "Men who understand one another need not waste words. There are but a few simple truths behind one warrior giving another his axe. Ulfric will know my meaning." And you think Ulfric will let me just walk in there, no trouble? "True, he's a dangerous and blood thirsty man, but he's also a Nord that honors our traditions. Keep your wits about you and you won't be harmed. And then get back here. Because if Ulfric isn't bluffing, I'll need every able body to defend Whiterun." Understood. "Good. Good..." After returning with the Axe: Ulfric means war. "You've returned with my axe. I knew that would be his response. As soon as you left I sent word to General Tullius, who's been kind enough to lend us some of his troops and Legate Cipius here. Let Ulfric try to make it past our combined forces. I'll turn you back over to your Legion. Legate Cipius will have use for you. Gods be with us all."

Show: Message to Whiterun (Stormcloak)
In Dragonsreach: Jarl Ulfric Stormcloak asked me to deliver this axe to you. "Did he now? Ha. The man is persistent, I'll give him that. I suppose it's time I give him an answer..." If interrupted during the beginning of the conversation between Balgruuf and his council: "One moment. But don't go far. I expect I'll need you." If interrupted in the later part of the conversation: "I've made up my mind, even if my advisers are still squabbling. I'm sending you to Windhelm. You can return this axe to our friend. The esteemed Jarl of Windhelm has my answer. Make sure he gets it." After a short discussion, if not interrupted: "So, about this axe. You can return this axe to our friend; the esteemed Jarl of Windhelm has my answer. Make sure he gets it."

Show: Battle for Whiterun (Imperial)
In Whiterun: "Thank you for your role in all of this. It'd be my honor should you decide to make Whiterun your home. Speak with Proventus. He'll make the necessary arrangements."

Show: Post-civil war dialogue
In Dragonsreach: If the Stormcloaks are sided with: Where are your children? "If the gods are merciful, they've found a safe place to hide in the city. I hope Vignar doesn't find them. He'll ask a king's ransom, I'm sure." If the Legion is sided with: "May the gods watch over your battles, friend." Why side with the Empire? "Mutual advantage! Any fool can see that. For centuries, we have benefited from the Empire's protection, and prosperous trade with the south. In exchange, the people of Cyrodiil sleep peacefully, knowing their northern border is guarded by the fiercest warriors in all Tamriel." What will it take to end the war? "Ulfric Stormcloak's head on a pike. Do you think Ulfric really cares about Skyrim's independence, or the welfare or its people? I promise you, he doesn't. He's nothing more than a barbarian renegade, whose lust for power has cost the lives of countless innocents."

Show: Diplomatic Immunity
In Thalmor Embassy: "This gathering is nothing more than a boast. The Thalmor are reminding us that we're at their beck and call." Enjoying the party? "I am not. I have no more taste for Thalmor wine than I do for Thalmor company. What is more, I'm away from the hold at a time when there are dragons and Stormcloaks on the loose. There's every chance I'll return to find a pile of smoking ash where Whiterun once stood." How well do you know Elenwen? "Not well at all, and I'm happy to keep it that way. That woman and her Thalmor Justiciars have caused nothing but problems for the people of Skyrim." I need your help with something. "Let's hear it." I need you to cause a scene. Get everyone's attention for a few minutes. "Say no more. I was wondering what you were doing here... I'm glad to play my part."

Show: The Whispering Door
In Dragonsreach: "May the gods watch over your battles, friend." I've heard there's trouble with your children. "Yes, my youngest son. He's a dark child. I don't know what to do with him. He was always a quiet lad, but lately... something has changed. He's become brooding. Violent. He won't say a word to me, but I don't know how I upset him. If you could speak to him. Draw out the truth. I would be immensely grateful."

Conversations[]

Show: Conversations
Before the Storm Proventus: "My lord. Please. You have to listen. I only counsel caution. We cannot afford to act rashly in times like these. If the news from Helgen is true... well, there's no telling what it means." Balgruuf: "What would you have me do, then? Nothing?" Proventus: "My lord. Please. This is no time for rash action. I just think we need more information before we act. I just..." Balgruuf: "Who's this (referring to the Dragonborn), then?" (After speaking to the Jarl) Balgruuf: "What do you say now, Proventus? Shall we continue to trust in the strength of our walls? Against a dragon?" Irileth: "My lord, we should send troops to Riverwood at once. It's in the most immediate danger, if that dragon is lurking in the mountains..." Proventus: "The Jarl of Falkreath will view that as a provocation! He'll assume we're preparing to join Ulfric's side and attack him." Balgruuf: "Enough! Irileth, send a detachment to Riverwood at once." Irileth: "Yes, my Jarl." Proventus: "We should not..." Balgruuf: "I'll not stand idly by while a dragon burns my hold and slaughters my people!" Proventus: "If you'll excuse me, I'll return to my duties." Balgruuf: "That would be best." Dragon Rising Irileth: "Farengar! Farengar, you need to come at once. A dragon's been sighted nearby. You (Referring to the Dragonborn) should come, too." Farengar: "A dragon! How exciting! Where was it seen? What was it doing?" Irileth: "I'd take this a bit more seriously if I were you. If a dragon decides to attack Whiterun, I don't know if we can stop it. Let's go." Balgruuf: "So, Irileth tells me you came from the western watchtower?" Whiterun Guard: "Yes, my lord." Irileth: "Tell him what you told me. About the dragon." Whiterun Guard: "Uh... that's right. We saw it coming from the south. It was fast... faster than anything I've ever seen." Balgruuf: "What did it do? Is it attacking the watchtower?" Whiterun Guard: "No, my lord. It was just circling overhead when I left. I never ran so fast in my life... I thought it would come after me for sure." Balgruuf: "Good work, son. We'll take it from here. Head down to the barracks for some food and rest. You've earned it. Irileth, you'd better gather some guardsmen and get down there." Irileth: "I've already ordered my men to muster near the main gate." Balgruuf: "Good. Don't fail me." (After a brief conversation between the Jarl and the Dragonborn, the conversation continues) Farengar: "I should come along. I would very much like to see this dragon." Balgruuf: "No. I can't afford to risk both of you. I need you here working on ways to defend the city against these dragons." Farengar: "As you command." Balgruuf: "One last thing, Irileth. This isn't a death or glory mission. I need to know what we're dealing with." Irileth: "Don't worry, my lord. I'm the very soul of caution." Upon returning to Dragonsreach: Proventus: "Good. You're finally here. The Jarl's been waiting for you." Balgruuf: "You heard the summons. What else could it mean? The Greybeards..." Hrongar: "We were just talking about you. My brother needs a word with you." (After a brief conversation between the Dragonborn and Balgruuf, the conversation continues) Hrongar: "That was the voice of the Greybeards, summoning you to High Hrothgar! This hasn't happened in ... centuries, at least. Not since Tiber Septim himself was summoned when he was still Talos of Atmora!" Proventus: "Hrongar, calm yourself. What does any of this Nord nonsense have to do with our friend here? Capable as he (Or "she") may be, I don't see any signs of him (Or "her") being this, what, "Dragonborn."" Hrongar: "Nord nonsense?! Why you puffed-up ignorant... these are our sacred traditions that go back to the founding of the First Empire!" Balgruuf: "Hrongar. Don't be so hard on Avenicci." Proventus: "I meant no disrespect, of course. It's just that... what do these Greybeards want with him (Or "her")?" Balgruuf: "That's the Greybeards' business, not ours. Whatever happened when you (referring to the Dragonborn) killed that dragon, it revealed something in you, and the Greybeards heard it. If they think you're Dragonborn, who are we to argue? You'd better get up to High Hrothgar immediately. There's no refusing the summons of the Greybeards, it's a tremendous honor. I envy you, you know. To climb the 7,000 Steps again... I made the pilgrimage once, did you know that? High Hrothgar is a very peaceful place. Very... disconnected from the troubles of this world. I wonder that the Greybeards even notice what's going on down here. They haven't seemed to care before. No matter. Go to High Hrothgar. Learn what the Greybeards can teach you." (After another brief conversation) Balgruuf: "Back to business, Proventus. We still have a city to defend." Proventus: "Yes, my lord." Message to Whiterun Balgruuf: "Proventus, what do you make of all this? If Ulfric were to attack Whiterun..." Proventus: "As in all things, lord, caution... I urge us to wait and see." Irileth: "Prey waits." Balgruuf: "I'm of a mind with Irileth. It's time to act." Proventus: "You plan to march on Windhelm?" Balgruuf: "I'm not a fool, Proventus. I mean it's time to challenge Ulfric to face me as a man, or march his Stormcloaks up to the gates." Proventus: "He'll do no such thing! A dagger in the back is all you could expect!" Irileth: "He was rather straightforward with Torygg." Proventus: "Torygg? He simply walked up to the boy and murdered him!" Irileth: "That "boy" was High King of Skyrim." Balgruuf: "I'm not the High King, but neither am I a boy. If Ulfric wants to challenge my rule in the Old Way, let him. Though, I suspect he'll prefer to send his "Stormcloaks" to do it for him." Irileth: "True. He's already proven his personal strength. Now he seeks to prove his army's." Proventus: "Then might I urge you to consider General Tullius' request? I mean, if you are bent on offending Jarl Ulfric..." Irileth: "Ulfric is the one who has offended. But, Proventus has a point. Ulfric has made it clear; in his mind, to refuse his claim is to side with the Empire." Proventus: "And what harm is there in letting a few Legionnaires die in place of your own men?" Balgruuf: "It seems cowardly." Irileth: "Was it cowardly then to accept the White-Gold Concordat?" Balgruuf: "This again? That was different. Was I given a chance to object to the terms of the treaty? No. The Jarls weren't asked. We were told. And we had to like it." Proventus: "The chests of gold didn't hurt." Balgruuf: "Damnit! This isn't about gold!" Irileth: "It's time to decide." Proventus: "Lord, wait. Let us see if Ulfric is serious." Balgruuf: "Oh, he's serious. But so am I." Irileth: "Finally." Balgruuf: "Proventus. Bring me my pen. And the good parchment." Proventus: "Are we writing a letter, Lord?" Balgruuf: "Yes, to General Tullius. I need to make a few things clear before I accept these Legionnaires of his." Battle for Whiterun (Stormcloaks) Irileth: "Halt! In the name of the Jarl, Balgruuf the Greater." Balgruuf: "It's a little late for that, don't you think?" Irileth: "Stay back, lord!" Balgruuf: "I'll be damned if I let this rabble take my city without raising my own sword." Irileth: "Protect the Jarl with your lives!" (When Balgruuf is defeated:) Balgruuf: "Enough! That's enough. I surrender... I surrender. Peace! Everyone stand down. That's an order. Stand down!" Vignar: "Balgruuf!" Balgruuf: "Vignar Gray-Mane! Your family was noticeably absent from the walls. Now I know why. Wouldn't a dagger in the back have sufficed?" Vignar: "You think this is personal? The Empire has no place in Skyrim... not any more. And you? You have no place in Whiterun anymore." Balgruuf: "A convenient position to hold now. But mark my words, old man, in the days to come, Ulfric will spread his rebellion thin. And what then? We need the Empire, as much as it needs us. We Nords are the Empire! Our blood built it. Our blood sustains it! You of all people should know that." Vignar: "If this was my Empire, I'd be able to worship whoever I damned well pleased. You wish to see an Empire without Talos? Without its soul? We should be fighting those witch-elves, not bending knee to them. The Emperor is nothing more than a puppet of the Thalmor. Skyrim needs a High King who will fight for her, and Whiterun needs a Jarl who will do the same." Balgruuf: "Tell me, Vignar. Was all this worth it? How many of those corpses lining our streets wear the faces of men who once called you friend? What about their families?" Galmar: "Enough! Both of you! There is a burning city out there that needs a government." Vignar: "He's right. Galmar, come, let us restore order." Balgruuf: "This isn't over. You hear me you old fool! This isn't over! And you. A Stormcloak? I'd thought better of you. (Referring to the Dragonborn.) You'll all come to regret this day." If spoken to after that in the palace, Balgruuf will defensively say, "I surrender! Give me a few hours to gather my household, and I'll depart. You have my word." If he is followed into his chambers, he will walk to a room in the Dragonsreach Jarl's Quarters with every single resident of the palace in it, who will mostly only plea, "Please! Have mercy... I beg you..." The Fallen Whiterun Guard: "Hear that?" Whiterun Guard 2: "Shor's bones, here he comes!" Jarl Balgruuf the Greater: "Steady! Steady, now! Keep under cover until it's down!" Jarl Balgruuf the Greater: "Get back! Get back! We need to trap it, not kill it!" Jarl Balgruuf the Greater: "That's it! Now, wait until he's inside!" Jarl Balgruuf the Greater: "Got him!" Odahviing: "Nid!" Whiterun Guard 3: "I think it's holding!" Odahviing: "Horvutah med kodaav. Caught like a bear in a trap... Zok frini grind ko grah drun viiki, Dovahkiin. Ah. I forget. You do not have the dovah speech. My... eagerness to meet you in battle was my... undoing, Dovahkiin. I salut your, hmm, low cunning in devising such a grahmindol - strategem." Farengar: "Incredible! Uh... sir, you have no idea how long I have waited for such an opportunity! I would be most appreciative if you would permit me to perform some, ah, tests on you. Purely in the interests of the advancement of knowledge." Odahviing: "Begone, mage. Do not test my promise to the Dovahkiin." Farengar: "I assure you, you will not even notice me. Most of them are hardly painful at all to a large dragon such as yourself." Irileth: "Farengar, very bad idea. Even for you." Farengar: "Surely you won't miss a few scales... or a small amount of blood..." Odahviing: "Joor mey! What are you doing back there? Yol... Toor...Shul!" Jarl Balgruuf the Greater: "Farengar! Enough, fool!" Whiterun Guard: "Get ready to open the trap! This seems like a really bad idea to me." Jarl Balgruuf the Greater: "Carry on, soldier. This is all part of the Dragonborn's plan." Irileth: "By all the gods..." Odahviing: "Faas nu, zini dein ruthi ahst vaal." Irileth: "You're either the bravest person I've ever met or the biggest fool." Jarl Balgruuf the Greater: "May Kynareth guard you while you pass through her realm!" Hrongar Hrongar: "Have you reconsidered my idea?" Balgruuf: "I haven't changed my mind, if that's what you're asking. I won't leave Whiterun defenseless, even for a day." Hrongar: "If we send half our guards to aid the Legion, just for a few days, it could tip the scales in the Empire's favor. The Companions can help protect the city, and the Emperor will be in our debt." Balgruuf: "Have you lost all sense? We are short on guards as it is! If we lose half our men, the Dark Brotherhood and Thieves Guild will have the run of the city. The Stormcloaks will be the least of our worries! The answer is no, I tell you! Now stop pestering me with your war-mongering!" Irileth Irileth: "Balgruuf, did you slip out again last night for a drink at the Bannered Mare?" Balgruuf: "Heard about that, did you? Yes, I went out for a pint or two. What of it?" Irileth: "These secret visits to the tavern will make you an easy target for an enemy assassin. You should have told me first." Balgruuf: "Damn it, woman, I'm the Jarl of Whiterun! I won't apologize for talking to my people. You can't protect me every moment of the day." Irileth: "That might be so, but it will never stop me from trying." Proventus Avenicci Proventus: "My lord, our provisions are running dangerously low. Our stores of meat, wine, and grain are all but depleted." Balgruuf: "Purchase more supplies, then. That's your job as Steward, isn't it? Why do you trouble me with these details?" Proventus: "My lord, since Ulfric Stormcloak's uprising, the cost of goods has doubled. I'll need more coin if I'm to provision us properly." Balgruuf: "Our coffers are nearly empty. I can scarcely afford to pay the guards, and we need every one of them in these troubled times. You'll have to make do with what we have, Proventus." Proventus: "Yes, my lord." Vignar Gray-Mane Balgruuf: "I won't say it again, Vignar; Talos worship is forbidden. It's the Empire's law, and we're still a part of the Empire." Vignar: "A law made at the tip of an Aldmeri sword, aye. A sword stained red with Nord blood. Is this what our people fought and died for? To forsake our most beloved ancestor and divine?" Balgruuf: "I'm no happier about this than you are, but I don't want the see the Thalmor rounding up people in the streets and throwing them in prison." Vignar: "Do your loyalties lie with the Thalmor, then?" Balgruuf: "I warn you, Gray-Mane, you are treading on dangerous ground." Vignar: "Don't threaten me, boy. You're either a Nord who respects our traditions, or you're not. If not, it isn't me you'll have to answer to, but the people of this city and this Hold." Note: the preceding conversation never actually occurs during the game, as Balgruuf and Vignar never have the chance to speak of it.^[2]

Quotes[]

"You have my attention."
"Speak your mind."
"It pleases me to see you again."
"Now, if you don't mind, I've got a city to keep."
"Not now." — if spoken to while conversing with Irileth during "Dragon Rising"
"Help Irileth kill this dragon before it can attack Whiterun. There's no time to lose." — Just after dismissing Irileth during "Dragon Rising"
"What do you want, milk drinker?" — In the Blue Palace after being exiled
"After Whiterun is retaken, Ulfric will pay in blood for his insolence." — After being exiled
"Next time, deal with Avenicci." — After being exiled
"We are honored to have you as Thane of our city, Dragonborn."
"These Thalmor might not like to admit it, but as long as the Empire has Skyrim, the Empire has strength." — During "Diplomatic Immunity"
"I'd rather be back at Whiterun, but while I'm here I might as well get some real news from the other parts of Skyrim." — During "Diplomatic Immunity"
"We've got troubles enough without the Thalmor and their witch-hunts." — During "Diplomatic Immunity"
"I've got this. Do what you need to do." — During "Diplomatic Immunity"
"If you can arrange an end to the fighting, Dragonsreach is at your disposal." – During "Season Unending"
"We should get started." – During "Season Unending"

Trivia[]

It is possible to pickpocket gold from him and have it respawn with a larger amount.
Jarl Balgruuf was initially meant to be killable during the "The Whispering Door" quest. When inspecting the quest through the Creation Kit, it is revealed that all of his children were meant to fall under the influence of Mephala, eventually committing patricide. Hrongar would have replaced Balgruuf as Jarl, having many unused lines of dialogue that parallel that of Balgruuf's during the Civil War quest and main quest.
During the Battle for Whiterun (if the Dragonborn has sided with the Stormcloaks), Balgruuf can be pickpocketed for a Necklace of Waterbreathing.
When asked about him by Gerdur, she will reply saying that he has been at odds with Ulfric for years.
Balgruuf was voiced by Michael Gough, who is credited with the MaleNord voice type. Vilkas and Calder are other examples of this voice..
In the Creation Kit, it is stated that Nelkir is actually the brother of Balgruuf, shedding light to his comment about not having the same mother as Dagny and Frothar, the Jarl's other children.

Bugs[]

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It is possible to gain a bounty in Eastmarch if, when on the Stormcloaks' side, the Dragonborn attacks him before he becomes hostile.
Sometimes, after buying Breezehome, and the Miscellaneous quest "Talk to Jarl Balgruuf" is still active, if the player talks to him, Balgruuf will say he can buy Breezehome, even after actually buying it.
Even after killing Ulfric Stormcloak and ending the war, he will still talk to the player as if the war is still ongoing.

Appearances[]

References[]

↑ Dialogue with Gerdur
↑ Creation Kit

Dragon Rising

[1] Dialogue with Gerdur

[kit-2] Creation Kit

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