Elder Scrolls
Elder Scrolls

Moss Mother Cavern is a cave located within the Falkreath Hold in The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. It is west of Whiterun and almost directly southeast of Rorikstead, at the end of the mountain range.


About five blue butterflies and a number of monarch butterflies can be found close to the entrance. The main cavern is a large, lush area with an opening to the sky which allows ample light to illuminate the cave. A stream enters the cave high on one wall, creating a waterfall that feeds into a pool surrounded by trees and grass.

The first time the cavern is entered, the dead hunters, Ari and Niels, will be found here.


Hunter and Hunted[]

When the Dragonborn arrives, there will be an injured man, Valdr, outside the cave. He is affected by spriggan poison. He can be healed by giving him a potion, or using a spell like Healing Hands. After healing him, he will ask the Dragonborn to clear out the cave of spriggans so he can get to the bodies of his fallen friends. Upon completion of this task, the Dragonborn will be rewarded with Valdr's Lucky Dagger, and invited to his home in Falkreath.

Find Runil's Journal[]

Runil asks to find his journal, which may be here as a possible location for Runil's Journal.

Shalidor's Insights[]

Possible location for the Shalidor's Insights, a series of books written by the Archmagus Shalidor for study by the College of Winterhold.

Notable items[]

  • Leveled soul gem and an adept chest with gold and a steel mace - just before Ari's corpse, on a ledge to the right.
  • Leveled armor piece and potion, along with a chest with some gold, a levelled necklace and dagger - up the path beyond the pond, on the right.
  • One gold ore vein – on a bank above the pond.
  • One iron ore vein – where the Dragonborn encounters the first spriggan on the ledge.
  • Valdr's Lucky Dagger – Given by Valdr as a reward for clearing the cave.
  • Possible location of Meridia's Beacon.
  • Leveled two-handed sword and shield – at the bottom of the pond and waterfall.




  • When the Dragonborn gives Valdr, the hunter in front of the cavern, a healing potion, the hunter can then be killed and the potion recovered. However, the Dragonborn then cannot receive Valdr's Lucky Dagger.


This section contains bugs related to Moss Mother Cavern. Before adding a bug to this list, consider the following:

  1. Please reload an old save to confirm if the bug is still happening.
  2. If the bug is still occurring, please post the bug report with the appropriate system template  360  /  XB1  ,  PS3  /  PS4  ,  PC  /  MAC  ,  NX  /  PS5  ,  XS  , depending on which platform(s) the bug has been encountered on.
  3. Be descriptive when listing the bug and fixes, but avoid having conversations in the description and/or using first-person anecdotes: such discussions belong on the appropriate forum board.
  • There might be no quest marker for the quest.
    • A solution is to enter the cave normally and not take anything from the hollow tree trunk.
  • Upon receiving the dagger, the quest may not be completed. Instead, Valdr holds his normal interactions.