Skingrad Recommendation is a quest in The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion. As part of "Join the Mages Guild," the Hero must get a recommendation from each city's Mages Guild Hall.

Erthor, a member of the Skingrad Mages Guild, has gone missing; the Hero can help by locating him.


Skingrad Mages GuildEdit

Adrienne Berene promises to write the recommendation if the Hero will find out what has happened to Erthor.

After asking other mages in the Skingrad Mages Guild Hall about Erthor, the Hero learns that he is very clumsy with his Conjuration, and had an earlier incident when he summoned a scamp. Because of this, Erthor was asked by Adrienne to do all of his Conjuration practice in a cavern named Bleak Flats Cave, west of Skingrad.

The Hero is also asked by the other mages to remind Adrienne that she was the one who sent him to the cave. When asked, she will say that she vaguely remembers telling him to go, and asks the Hero to go to the cave and investigate why Erthor has not returned recently. She also teaches them a basic Area of Effect Fire Ball spell to help defend themselves.

Bleak Flats CaveEdit

Upon entering the cave, the Hero will encounter seven Deranged Zombies. The Area of Effect spell will prove to be very effective against the groups of zombies. After killing all of the zombies, Erthor can be found in one end of the cave rooms. He will show that he is very grateful that the Hero eliminated his renegade creations, and wishes to follow them back to Skingrad's Mages Guild.

Once back at the Skingrad Mages Guild Hall with Erthor in tow, the Hero must speak with Adrienne again, who will subsequently write their recommendation.


Journal Entry
  • Update: After talking to Adrienne Berene about the recommendation:

In order to get a recommendation from Adrienne Berene, I need to find Erthor and return him to the Skingrad Mages Guild. I should speak with the other guild makes to learn his whereabouts.

  • Update: After talking to the Druja about Erthor:

I have been told Erthor was last seen at Bleak Flats Cave, west of Skingrad. I should remind Adrienne of this.

  • Update: After talking to Adrienne Berene about Erthor:

I need to go to Bleak Flats Cave and find Erthor.

  • Update: After talking to Erthor in Bleak Flats Cave:

I've found Erthor in Bleak Flats Cave, and have agreed to escort him back to Adrienne Berene in Skingrad.

  • Update: After returning Erthor to the Skingrad Mages Guild and talking to Adrienne about the recommendation:

Adrienne Berene has agreed to send a recommendation to the Arcane University on my behalf.

  • Quest complete


  • Sulinus Vassinus was supposed to have a dialogue option regarding the quest, in which he could have been asked to find Erthor for a fee of 300 GoldIcon. Upon being paid, he would have walked to Bleak Flats Cave and spent three in-game days to finish the task, and the Hero would have been able to claim the credit. Due to a scripting error, however, the option would only appear if Vassinus' deposition was to be both "less than zero" and "greater than or equal to 70."


This section contains bugs related to Skingrad Recommendation. Before adding a bug to this list, consider the following:

  1. Please reload an old save to confirm if the bug is still happening.
  2. If the bug is still occurring, please post the bug report with the appropriate system template  360  / XB1  ,  PS3  / PS4  ,  PC  / MAC  ,  NX  , depending on which platform(s) the bug has been encountered on.
  3. Be descriptive when listing the bug and fixes, but avoid having conversations in the description and/or using first-person anecdotes: such discussions belong on the appropriate forum board.
  • Erthor may follow the Hero around for the rest of the game, even after he talks with Adrienne. This can be fixed by telling him to wait after entering the Mages Guild Hall. Then, one must wait a few hours, then talk to Adrienne. She should have spoken to Erthor by then, unless she is asleep at the time. If this is the case, wait until morning.

Start a Discussion Discussions about Skingrad Recommendation

  • Erthor following me around now?

    5 messages
    • I doubt there's a fix for that. After completing that quest he is no longer essential. I would just keep playing as normal like he's ...
    • Just take him somewhere with enemies and get him killed. No one will care and you won't be suspended from the guild
  • Skingrad Recommendation

    3 messages
    • Nevermind, I found one in a small part of the cave. I guess I just didn't look hard enough.
    • Man, I'm having the same problem as we speak
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