Did anyone else find it ironic that it is more likely that players would enter Kagrenzel through its exit, rather than its entrance? Stony Creek cave is a well travelled location and it seems to me, more players than I saw that waterfall and thought, "hey I bet there's something shiny up there!" Incrognito (talk) 15:37, February 20, 2012 (UTC)

I got there from the back, ended up exploreing the waters and somehow I endded up in the room with the orb in it, was kinda freaked out.

Frost Trolls? Edit

I've never seen any frost trolls around Kagrenzel. I have seen two or three ice wraiths, though. Sgt. S.S. (talk) 19:51, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Seems leveled to me. With my lvl 53 character I see frost trolls where on all my lower level characters are Ice wraiths. Sorry if this is not a complete post, I'm not signed in and don't know how to post things properly, just wanna help. ( 13:09, August 17, 2012 (UTC))

Bugged Dragon roar Edit

Everytime I climb the mountains at the southwest wall of kagrenzel to reach the roof of the ruin I get the soundeffect of a dragon roaring. Seems like a bug to me cause I hear it everytime i climb those rocks but never anywhere else in the area, as if the sound came from the rocks themselves. And no dragons are to be seen. Has anyone else experienced this? When you face the entrance from east go left and follow the wall till you reach the edge, then climb up to the roof and you should hear it if I'm right. ( 13:19, August 17, 2012 (UTC))


If you use TCL and head northeast from stony creek toward the opening in the mountains you can see the dragon flying around.  It was actually flying around off the edge of the map.  Even using TCL it kept saying I "could not go that way" to get closer.

For me, it was an Ancient dragon, not a named dragon.  It ignored me even after fireing dozens of fireball and arrows and ice spikes.  I had to use console commands to summon it to me.

That was fun! Edit

Let's do it again!

Best freefall ever!

Dwarven chest in the water Edit

To find the chest, open your map and you can see the square room with a circle in the center.

From that center circle, head straight down and west.

Alternatively, if you enter Kagrenzel from the intended exit and follow the sloping pathway down to the water, the chest will be approximately 10 feet from the entrance to the water and directly below. I found it completely by accident. 00:52, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

door to enter Kagrenzel refuse to open Edit


I have a problem with the front door that refuses to open. I tried to gback to an earlier save but the door still remains struck.

What can I do? plz?



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