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  • So I'm currently trying to do an evil character so I would like some ideas (quests, choices, followers, etc). Here's what I've got so far :

    - Dark Brotherhood as main faction

    - Not joining morally good/neutral factions such as the Companions, College of Winterhold, even Bard's College lol

    - Doing daedric quests and always ending it with the least moral choice (for exemple killing the werewolf for Hircine and the priest of Mara for Vaermina)

    - Joining the Dawnguard in order to be closer to the Volkihar Clan and become a vampire lord

    - My character basically live in a marsh because he thinks nobody will look for him there (Winstad Manor)

    EDIT

    - Killing Braith' parents (Amren is a nice guy and she's a kid even if I hate her guts) so that she end up in the orphnanage

    Do you have suggestions? What did you do?

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    • - Don't join the Thieves Guild either. They may not be good, but they're not "evil" either, and you end up facing someone who abuses a Daedric Artifact for his own wasteful ends.

      - Initially side with the Stormcloaks, then give the Jagged Crown to the Imperials, and then postpone your involvement in the Civil War from there.  This helps the Thalmor.

      - Help Ondolemar expose Ogmund's Talos worship. This helps the Thalmor.

      - Sneak in and murder Thorald Gray-Mane instead of rescuing him from Northwatch Keep.

      - Do Mephala's Daedric Quest for the Ebony Blade (and murder Farengar for the key instead of pickpocketing him).

      - Kill Paarthurnax for the Blades.

      - Kill Kematu during "In My Time of Need", sparing the fugitive Saadia.

      - Give Auriel's Bow to Harkon when fighting him, and regularly ask Serana for Bloodcursed Elven Arrows to blot out the Sun.

      - Kill all of your non-essential friends/followers with the Ebony Blade, to strengthen it.

      - Side with the Rieklings during "The Chief of Thirsk Hall" (Dragonborn). Do not accept "Retaking Thirsk" from Bujold; kill her instead.

      - Sell Stalhrim armor and weapons to Ancarion (Dragonborn). This helps the Thalmor.

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    • Good list, most of it I think I'll do. I'll add :

      - Killing Braith' parents (Amren is a nice guy and she's a kid even if I hate her guts) so that she end up in the orphnanage

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    • Also make Kayd an orphan. I also think the Thieves Guild is evil, but Ifnsman disagrees. Maybe actually spare Grelod the Kind so she continues to torture the kids?

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    • And join Madanach in escaping Cidhna Mine. A lot of innocents die in that route.

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    • can you kill Farkas in companions training? Flunk out like the lady in the bannered Mare if you can, don't just not join them... hell, you could go through most of their questline, get the axe, and doom them to cursed undeath right?

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    • CatholicPrincess15 wrote:
      Also make Kayd an orphan. I also think the Thieves Guild is evil, but Ifnsman disagrees. Maybe actually spare Grelod the Kind so she continues to torture the kids?

      Who is Kayd? I think the TG would be chaotic neutral, and that it would fit almost any type of playthrough. I cannot spare Grelod the Kind, first because I already did the quest, second because you have to finish it (and her) in order to start the DB questline.

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    • 73.Anon.52 wrote:
      can you kill Farkas in companions training? Flunk out like the lady in the bannered Mare if you can, don't just not join them... hell, you could go through most of their questline, get the axe, and doom them to cursed undeath right?

      It's not possible, even if I just join which would not make sense, the Circle members are immortal until you end the questline by curing their lycanthropy.

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    • Kayd is the little brat in Solitude who says his dad will beat us up. Hmm . . . Oh, I know! Kill Constance Michel!

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    • CatholicPrincess15 wrote:
      Kayd is the little brat in Solitude who says his dad will beat us up. Hmm . . . Oh, I know! Kill Constance Michel!

      I think most children of this game should die, unfortunately they're essential so I can only send them to the orphanage for the sake of Skyrim.

      Killing Constance is indeed evil!

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    • If you want Kayd to be an orphan, kill off Sayma and Beirand.

      I know! I'm proud of myself for coming up with that!

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    • CatholicPrincess15 wrote:
      If you want Kayd to be an orphan, kill off Sayma and Beirand.

      Beirand is useful to me. Also, so many good people with brats ...

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    • Maybe just kill his mom.

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    • Well, someone really hate this boy. I'll also kill Lemkil so that his daughters are adoptable. One will rot in the orphanage though.

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    • Pity on Sissel? You're already getting nice, XD.

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    • I was thinking about punishing her sister but yes, you're right I can't do that since that's ... kind.

      Master of the Dark Brotherhood, worshiper of daedra, vampire, Orc and obssesed with sending children to the orphanage. What an assassin.

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    • Maybe you should kill all the housecarls so the jarls will be easier to assassinate (I know they're essential, but we're roleplaying, right?).

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    • That's an idea. This iteration of Skyrim is already empty because of dragons anyway (yet kids are still alive...)

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    • Marry a follower and sacrifice them to boethia.

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    • Bilitis wrote: That's an idea. This iteration of Skyrim is already empty because of dragons anyway (yet kids are still alive...)

      Who's dead? Or if it's easier to count, alive?!

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    • CatholicPrincess15 wrote:

      Bilitis wrote: That's an idea. This iteration of Skyrim is already empty because of dragons anyway (yet kids are still alive...)

      Who's dead? Or if it's easier to count, alive?!

      Morthal, Solitude and Windhelm have almost no npcs outdoors anymore. Weird thing with Solitude is, most dead characters are women. 

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    • Calixto seems to be at the heart of this . . . Oh yeah . . . you should frame Wunnferth the Unliving in Blood on the Ice!

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    • I guess the character realized I was roleplaying and decided to give me a hand Good Idea, I'm yet to do Blood on Ice

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    • Ah yes... there's another one.  Just let Calixto keep murdering people! >:D

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    • Well he's out of people to kill since dragons are even more murderous than him lol

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    • Even in Windhelm?

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    • Maybe you can kill Aerin. Since Mjoll is against the Thieves Guild and the Black-Briar family (the corrupts) and is essential, Aerin will be the way to get to her.

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    • But hey, if you think the Thieves Guild can be an "evil" path (rather than a neutral, just plain "greedy" path), here's my suggestion:

      FAIL every operation that you can possibly fail (and still progress in the questline).

      This causes disaster for the Thieves Guild (and likely for the targets of their thefts as well).

      Also, as it turns out, the Thieves Guild [indirectly] benefits the Empire through Maven Black-Briar.

      If you fail operations, and then don't progress further in the questline (preferably doing something to get yourself kicked out of the Guild afterwards), you will have caused irreversible damage for them & for others.

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    • tbh you can do something Similar with the companions, I got just up until "proving honor", and then one day(after saving before the reward from rescuing her son, I killed Thalia Gray-mane because she failed to give Sky-forged steel rewards...

      Then continued to kill every NPC in town that could be killed, as the Companions helped me. interesting to note that while you can't kill the companions or Children, you can make the companions relentlessly hunt the children in town, which I noted after attacking a child to see companions chase them down... and later after entering Valerica's home to find her daughter trying to sleep was the Aura I saw from outside... to have Farkas and Aela burst in with murder on their minds.

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    • 73.Anon.52 wrote: tbh you can do something Similar with the companions, I got just up until "proving honor", and then one day(after saving before the reward from rescuing her son, I killed Thalia Gray-mane because she failed to give Sky-forged steel rewards...

      Then continued to kill every NPC in town that could be killed, as the Companions helped me. interesting to note that while you can't kill the companions or Children, you can make the companions relentlessly hunt the children in town, which I noted after attacking a child to see companions chase them down... and later after entering Valerica's home to find her daughter trying to sleep was the Aura I saw from outside... to have Farkas and Aela burst in with murder on their minds.

      They lose their essential status after the questline. Farkas died on my friend Sarah's playthrough.

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    • Also, don't do the quest "The Final Descent" and help Raven Rock open the mine. Let them remain in poverty.

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    • CatholicPrincess15 wrote:

      73.Anon.52 wrote: tbh you can do something Similar with the companions...

      They lose their essential status after the questline. Farkas died on my friend Sarah's playthrough.

      The OP stated they weren't starting the questline at all, so with either my suggestion or their present course, they will never lose that status.

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    • I was offering finishing the quest just to kill everyone after as an option; sorry for the confusion.

      Plus, don't rescue the Skaal man kidnapped by the Thalmor.

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    • CatholicPrincess15 wrote:
      Maybe you can kill Aerin. Since Mjoll is against the Thieves Guild and the Black-Briar family (the corrupts) and is essential, Aerin will be the way to get to her.

      Why did I never killed Aerin myself ? This is a great idea!

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    • Ifnsman wrote:
      But hey, if you think the Thieves Guild can be an "evil" path (rather than a neutral, just plain "greedy" path), here's my suggestion:

      FAIL every operation that you can possibly fail (and still progress in the questline).

      This causes disaster for the Thieves Guild (and likely for the targets of their thefts as well).

      Also, as it turns out, the Thieves Guild [indirectly] benefits the Empire through Maven Black-Briar.

      If you fail operations, and then don't progress further in the questline (preferably doing something to get yourself kicked out of the Guild afterwards), you will have caused irreversible damage for them & for others.

      So to you, Maven being a jarl is not evil? Because I'm pretty sure it's the worst way to punish Riften and even Skyrim

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    • Bilitis wrote:
      Ifnsman wrote:
      But hey, if you think the Thieves Guild can be an "evil" path (rather than a neutral, just plain "greedy" path), here's my suggestion:

      FAIL every operation that you can possibly fail (and still progress in the questline).

      This causes disaster for the Thieves Guild (and likely for the targets of their thefts as well).

      Also, as it turns out, the Thieves Guild [indirectly] benefits the Empire through Maven Black-Briar.

      If you fail operations, and then don't progress further in the questline (preferably doing something to get yourself kicked out of the Guild afterwards), you will have caused irreversible damage for them & for others.

      So to you, Maven being a jarl is not evil? Because I'm pretty sure it's the worst way to punish Riften and even Skyrim

      I don't associate Maven as "evil" because she's technically associated with the Empire; as she uses her profits (especially from the Thieves Guild) to indirectly fund the Legion's war-effort, and becomes Jarl only if you capture Riften for the Legion.  Bringing her down means destroying an asset to the Imperials.

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    • Anyone who uses the Black Sacrament is evil.

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    • CatholicPrincess15 wrote:
      Anyone who uses the Black Sacrament is evil.

      That makes Aventus Arentino evil too.

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    • Bilitis wrote:
      CatholicPrincess15 wrote:
      Anyone who uses the Black Sacrament is evil.
      That makes Aventus Arentino evil too.

      Also my character's cancelled since my playthrough glitched (sigh)

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    • I never said I liked the little kid. In fact, at first I thought he was the Butcher and kidnapped girls to use their parts in the Black Sacrament, so I kept trying to kill him while he screamed "Get away!"

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    • CatholicPrincess15 wrote:
      I never said I liked the little kid. In fact, at first I thought he was the Butcher and kidnapped girls to use their parts in the Black Sacrament, so I kept trying to kill him while he screamed "Get away!"

      I'm dissapointed, your story is better than Blood on Ice.

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    • Bilitis wrote:

      Bilitis wrote:
      CatholicPrincess15 wrote:
      Anyone who uses the Black Sacrament is evil.
      That makes Aventus Arentino evil too.

      Also my character's cancelled since my playthrough glitched (sigh)

      How did your playthrough glitch. What went wrong?

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    • Bilitis wrote:

      CatholicPrincess15 wrote:
      I never said I liked the little kid. In fact, at first I thought he was the Butcher and kidnapped girls to use their parts in the Black Sacrament, so I kept trying to kill him while he screamed "Get away!"

      I'm dissapointed, your story is better than Blood on Ice.

      LOL! Thanks!

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    • Purrington wrote:

      Bilitis wrote:

      Bilitis wrote:
      CatholicPrincess15 wrote:
      Anyone who uses the Black Sacrament is evil.
      That makes Aventus Arentino evil too.
      Also my character's cancelled since my playthrough glitched (sigh)
      How did your playthrough glitch. What went wrong?

      Corrupt save. Not saves, save. I accidentally overwrite the other one. God job me.

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    • Ouch, had that happen with morrowind back in the day... literal months of gameplay including a full spring Break.

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    • 73.Anon.52 wrote:
      Ouch, had that happen with morrowind back in the day... literal months of gameplay including a full spring Break.

      He died the way he lived : being a pain in the ass. I'm still open to read people ideas for an evil playthrough though.

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    • The list so far is:

      1) Dark Brotherhood main faction

      2) Not joining morally good/neutral factions such as the Companions, College of Winterhold, even Bard's College

      3) Doing Daedric quests and always ending it with the least moral choice (for example killing the werewolf for Hircine and the priest of Mara for Vaermina)

      4) Joining the Volkihar Vampires and become a vampire lord

      5) My character basically live in a marsh because he thinks nobody will look for him there (Winstad Manor)

      6) Put Braith and Kayd in the orphanage

      7) Help Ondolemar expose Ogmund's Talos worship

      8) Sneak in and murder Thorald Gray-Mane instead of rescuing him from Northwatch Keep

      9) Kill Paarthurnax, Kematu, Constance Michel, every housecarl to a jarl, and Aerin

      10) Side with the Rieklings with the Thirsk Mead Hall battle

      11) Sell Stalhrim to Ancarion

      12) Join Madanach

      13) Frame Wuunferth the Unliving in "Blood on the Ice"

      14) Initially side with the Stormcloaks, then give the Jagged Crown to the Imperials, and then postpone your involvement in the Civil War from there

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    • CatholicPrincess15 wrote:
      The list so far is:

      1) Dark Brotherhood main faction

      2) Not joining morally good/neutral factions such as the Companions, College of Winterhold, even Bard's College

      3) Doing Daedric quests and always ending it with the least moral choice (for example killing the werewolf for Hircine and the priest of Mara for Vaermina)

      4) Joining the Volkihar Vampires and become a vampire lord

      5) My character basically live in a marsh because he thinks nobody will look for him there (Winstad Manor)

      6) Put Braith and Kayd in the orphanage

      7) Help Ondolemar expose Ogmund's Talos worship

      8) Sneak in and murder Thorald Gray-Mane instead of rescuing him from Northwatch Keep

      9) Kill Paarthurnax, Kematu, Constance Michel, every housecarl to a jarl, and Aerin

      10) Side with the Rieklings with the Thirsk Mead Hall battle

      11) Sell Stalhrim to Ancarion

      12) Join Madanach

      13) Frame Wuunferth the Unliving in "Blood on the Ice"

      14) Initially side with the Stormcloaks, then give the Jagged Crown to the Imperials, and then postpone your involvement in the Civil War from there

      About daedric quests, I guess we can consider not helping neutral ones such as Azura. Depends if your character refuse to do good deeds or if you love the loot more than anything. That reminds me a thing I do as a little tradition everytime I do a playthough : killing everyone in the Hall of Vigilant before the Dawnguard DLC erase it (so before lvl 11)

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    • Why Kill Thorald? torture him then bug out and leave him in hell

      Azura's betrayal by taking the Black star isn't helping Azura though

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    • Bilitis wrote:
      CatholicPrincess15 wrote:
      The list so far is:

      1) Dark Brotherhood main faction

      2) Not joining morally good/neutral factions such as the Companions, College of Winterhold, even Bard's College

      3) Doing Daedric quests and always ending it with the least moral choice (for example killing the werewolf for Hircine and the priest of Mara for Vaermina)

      4) Joining the Volkihar Vampires and become a vampire lord

      5) My character basically live in a marsh because he thinks nobody will look for him there (Winstad Manor)

      6) Put Braith and Kayd in the orphanage

      7) Help Ondolemar expose Ogmund's Talos worship

      8) Sneak in and murder Thorald Gray-Mane instead of rescuing him from Northwatch Keep

      9) Kill Paarthurnax, Kematu, Constance Michel, every housecarl to a jarl, and Aerin

      10) Side with the Rieklings with the Thirsk Mead Hall battle

      11) Sell Stalhrim to Ancarion

      12) Join Madanach

      13) Frame Wuunferth the Unliving in "Blood on the Ice"

      14) Initially side with the Stormcloaks, then give the Jagged Crown to the Imperials, and then postpone your involvement in the Civil War from there

      About daedric quests, I guess we can consider not helping neutral ones such as Azura. Depends if your character refuse to do good deeds or if you love the loot more than anything. That reminds me a thing I do as a little tradition everytime I do a playthough : killing everyone in the Hall of Vigilant before the Dawnguard DLC erase it (so before lvl 11)

      As for Azura, the "evil" choice is to turn Azura's Star into the Black Star.

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    • Ifnsman wrote:

      As for Azura, the "evil" choice is to turn Azura's Star into the Black Star.

      True, I forgot about that. I doubt there's an alternative for Meridia though.

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    • Just don't do anything with the beacon? Don't return it to Mount Kilkreath?

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    • CatholicPrincess15 wrote:
      Just don't do anything with the beacon? Don't return it to Mount Kilkreath?

      And don't loot her damn cristal to begin with.

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    • you don't have a choice to not take it. I'm pretty sure leaving the temple early would be more evil though.

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    • Huh, yes you do : you just don't loot it. If you push "take all" you will be force to take it so if you see it, loot the items one by one

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    • What kind of evil doer wastes time looting 1 by 1 like that?

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    • 73.Anon.52 wrote:
      What kind of evil doer wastes time looting 1 by 1 like that?

      The one who roleplays. I'm not saying you need to do it with every chest, only those where you see the orb in the item list.

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    • that's most quest chests though.

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    • Honestly, I reloaded an old character and I found it in a single chest since.

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    • - Not accepting quests for characters of a certain race if you roleplay (for exemple, if you play a Nord you don't do anything for Dunmers, if you play an Altmer you don't do anything for Humans etc)

      - When Lars asks you to help him with Braith, tell him to get over it

      - Stole the golden claw back to Lucan Valerius after getting paid

      - Trying to fill a soul gem everytime you kill a NPC or an important enemy

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    • It's really up to you. There's no measure of good/evil alignment in Skyrim.

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    • Give Camilla both letters so she'll hate both men.

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    • The option to give both letters isn't possible.

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    • I thought it was.

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    • Purrington wrote:
      The option to give both letters isn't possible.

      Yes you can

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    • My evil character adopted Lucia from Whiterun and moved her out to the nearest house I could get to Dawnstar. Then, as a gift to her new precious daughter, she gave her a pretty new red dress and a sturdy ebony dagger (you never know what kind of weirdos are around). They play hide-and-seek in the middle of the night and there's always plenty of Nightshade growing in the garden.

      I forgot to mention; She's the Listener for the Dark Brotherhood. The dagger was used to stab Vittoria Vici at her own wedding and slit the Emperor's throat. Some day, she'll pass the torch and sweet little Lucia will be the new Listener. Hail Sithis!

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    • Nice!

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    • Become Ysolda's supply guy/girl and be a drug dealer.

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    • I found that one can give a guard in Morthal an arrow in a failed reverse pickpocket, tell the guard "bro, I'm your thane"(or bribe) and let your minions and thralls wipe out the entire post with no repercussions... do with that what you will.

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    • I personally prefer not to kill large scores of npc's in Skyrim, as it usually indicates that a person isn't even interested in the game anymore.

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    • Purrington wrote:
      I personally prefer not to kill large scores of npc's in Skyrim, as it usually indicates that a person isn't even interested in the game anymore.

      Or that someone did not understood the idea of quest giver. It usually bites in the ass.

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    • I just let it play out long enough to see what happens, then revert to previous saves... tbh I was legitly trying to increase their usefulness vs dragons when it happened.

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    • NokiaTouchscreen wrote:
      It's really up to you. There's no measure of good/evil alignment in Skyrim.
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    • NokiaTouchscreen wrote:
      NokiaTouchscreen wrote:
      It's really up to you. There's no measure of good/evil alignment in Skyrim.

      This is why this thread exists.

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    • Evil Character will need to start with the build.

      Combat style: Ebony Blade or Mace of Molag Bal for direct confrontation, soul bind people whenever possible as being soul trapped as shown in the Dawnguard DLC is a fate worse than death. 

      Thieving skills maxed: Specializes in stealing from good people

      Helping Stormcloaks take over Whiterun then leave civil war in stalemate

      Dark Brotherhood quest: Soul Trap Titus Mede II. With him dead and Civil War dragged on, it is more trouble for Empire, to even up the odds take down Stormcloaks camps across the province

      Kill all parents in Skyrim orphaned as many children as possible. 

      Kill Grelod the Kind to instill murderer instincts into the largest number of children possible in the game.

      Kill Constance Michel to make children who thinks murdering others is the way to solve their problems lose their homes again.

      Symbolism is Orphanage = Pandora's Box, killing Grelod unlocks the box, killing Constance Michel = opens pandora's box.

      After become Archmage of College, kill Tolfdir the moral anchor of the College. Symbolism: Beginning of policies that allows mages to conduct inhumane experiments in the College.

      Companions. Between letting Companions, the possibility of honorable people to continue existing, it is better to corrupt them or reduce them into cutthroats. Kill everyone except the drunkard and the ambitious Dunmer who can be shaped into a politics playing buffoon. Symbolism: Beginning of the once glorious Companions reducing to a bunch of rowdy bandits and politics playing backstabbers. Also selfish cutthroats and backstabbers are the kind of people who gets accepted into Companions.

      Thieves Guild: Joining it or not doesn't make a difference I suggest joining it considering how evil the Dragonborn truly is in this situation, him becoming leader of Thieves guild alone can symbolize the beginning of Thieves guild becoming Cutthroats' Guild

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    • The most evil thing to do in Skyrim is allow Nazeem’s heart to beat

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    • Keep him alive and you are the most cold hearted boi in Skyrim

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    • Be a High Elf. From what I've read, they're supremacists, and nothing else.

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    • 86.158.113.9 wrote: Be a High Elf. From what I've read, they're supremacists, and nothing else.

      I guess so, but then again, so are the Nords.

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    • When it comes to their own lands, not sure about conquest, that was the imperials game, and the Imperials first king was a Nord.

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    • 86.158.113.9 wrote:
      Be a High Elf. From what I've read, they're supremacists, and nothing else.

      You're talking about the Thalmor, not the High Elves. It's like calling Germans supremacists when you actually are talking about Nazis.

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    • Bilitis wrote:
      NokiaTouchscreen wrote:
      NokiaTouchscreen wrote:
      It's really up to you. There's no measure of good/evil alignment in Skyrim.
      This is why this thread exists.

      I agree that every reply in it should be deleted but mine.

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    • Keep this up you might get more than just your comments deleted. Don't drag everyone on an internet forum into your own issue.

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