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  • I wanna know what or who is the hardest thing to kill in skyrim and why?, include dawnguard and dragonborn enemies :-)

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    • Forsworn Briar Heart. Especially those use bows. They are deadly to me. More deadly than Dragons.

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    • And Dwarven Ballistas. One shot, one kill.

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    • @sleepingIII...briarhearts never use bows. your talking about normal forsworn, in higher levels..they have alot of perks in archery tree..briar hearts dual wield or cast magic...they are quite tough indeed..

      as for the question, 'the' hardest person was indeed ebony warrior...

      in general i think lurker vindicators are hard..its good thing to see that in dragonborn, enemies are a notch higher..good for high level players..

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    • Mine is hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm i knowit is the evil horrible FLUFFY BUNNY RABBIT

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    • It's got to be General Falx Carius who weilds the Champions Cudgel he' has Ash Spawn backup and is a monster in combat

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    • Bandit Cheifs at low levels that use two handed weapons. Or even those ash spawn who use magic, then a swarm of melee ash spawn appear and i just start to cry when Falx Carius runs into the crowd and just takes on swing and then you are dead.

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    • 58.169.249.144 wrote:
      Mine is hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm i knowit is the evil horrible FLUFFY BUNNY RABBIT

      With the big pointy teeth! RUN AWAY, RUN AWAY!

      The Champions Crudgel was a suprise it hit so hard and the Balista's too. The Ebony Warrior i was ready for so it wasn't too bad. I think Rahgot was one of my hardest i was just so tired affter fighting though the masive amount of Deathlord's in the quest to get to him.

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    • General Falx Carius was so hard! He killed me in 2 hits! I died fighting Miraak, Miraak didn't kill me, Sahrotaar did! When I was killing Miraak I went over and attacked him when Miraak called him, since he had no health he was invinvible and bit me, shook me around and killed me in one hit, but that wasn't a fair fight.

      I once died fighting falmer because I was heavy armour but I was testing Nightingale armour, that was so hard!

      But the hardest fight by far had to be on an imperial one handed file, the fight was: Viinturuth the dragon, Old Orc, pack of wolves and I had run out of healing potions. But, like a miracle, I didn't die once!

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    • Karstaag, but I enjoyed the challenge!

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    • I had lots of trouble with Falmer when I was low level.

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    • Damn skeletons and skeevers are way too much for me, I like have to reload from save everytime I meet up with them.... I dread when my kids are afraid to go to the celler... cuz I know what lurks there.... 

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    • On a serious note now ... LOL Karstaag was the most difficult for me, it litterally took me more than 15 respawns to figure out what would do him in.... I ended up just running around the cave and dashing in and striking and dashing away as fast as I could.... was very frustrating... 

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    • I agree with ODragono and TombRaise, Karstaag was a challenge for me and I had to go back into the caves when I ran out of potions and rethink my methods. It was probably my favorite fight though

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    • Longdead97 wrote:
      I agree with ODragono and TombRaise, Karstaag was a challenge for me and I had to go back into the caves when I ran out of potions and rethink my methods. It was probably my favorite fight though

      Yes fave indeed..... I really hated that I did win when it was over... I mean in my heart I was sad, but victory was a relief but still it was one I wish was more plentiful in Skyrim....

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    • Am I the only one who thinks that the Keepers in the Soul Cairn were pretty tough?

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    • I had a lot of trouble with the Lurker Vindicators.

      Just when I thought THAT was bad, Karstaag kicked my ass.

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    • I had a lot of trouble with the Lurker Vindicators.

      Just when I thought THAT was bad, Karstaag kicked my ass.

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    • Karstaag . I had to use Dragon Aspect,4-6 Ultimate healing potions and a 93% frost resistance potion I brewed in alchemy. I also almost died by the Ebony Warrior . Luckily, I have 20 Ultimate healing potions in my inventory. Lurker Vindicators are a problem to me somewhat. Overall, I choose Karstaag as the hardest person I've fought so far.

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    • Dual-wielding Briarhearts.  Even on Novice difficulty, I always seem to find myself on the other side of a finishing kill.  Most times, it's at the expense of my head, which is just insult to injury.

      I've only faced Karstaag once, and it just happened to be with Vinye, one of my mages who I roleplay as an electromancer (only shock spells/enchantments on offense).  She was level 60 at the time, wore clothing that completely negated spell cost on both destruction and alteration, and had about 300 health.  Nearly every last hit point would get taken out in one fell swoop from Karstaag's club.  This is on Novice, mind you.  I lost track of how many times I had to have Vinye duck inside the castle caverns like a little milk-drinker.  Nor did it help that none of my dual-cast Thunderbolts staggered him in the slightest. 

      Eventually, I gave up any chance of roleplaying with this guy and ended up spamming Fireball until he finally, finally went down.

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    • but the ebony warrior is also very hard, but you could probaly pickpocket his armour with level 100 pickpocket skill perk .

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    • To all the people who say Briar-Hearts are very hard, they really arnt. I was raiding a forsworn camp taking everybody out with stealth and bow, I see the briarheart arrow to the stomach ~ one hit kill. They really are not hard.

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    • ThatMothaFkinKhajiit wrote:
      To all the people who say Briar-Hearts are very hard, they really arnt. I was raiding a forsworn camp taking everybody out with stealth and bow, I see the briarheart arrow to the stomach ~ one hit kill. They really are not hard.

      Now keep in mind good sir, There are way too many variables in each persons character. Difficulty with any certain foe is a completely differant experiance for each one of us. I do believe this thread is intended to have a mode to relay said experiance with your most difficult foe, and I do believe it is not intended to make others feel inferior to any one else. 

      My opinion only. 

      Thank you and Have A Great Day! 

      o__Dragon__o  

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    • i havent been plaing long but the hardest person i have versed is yngols shade

      p.s i wasat levle ten

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    • The two Deathlords inside Lost Valkygg.  No more need be said.

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    • Mine was Malkoran, I was level 12 and he killed me like seven or eight times.  He wasn't even all that tough himself, it's that he's surrounded by his shades, on an elevated platform where he can just fling ice storms at you, and I had to approach him form a narrow corridor where had a prefect killzone and I couldn't dodge the stupid storms.  Oh, and when I finally but the bastard down HE CAME BACK it was so frustrating.

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    • 98.157.149.62 wrote:
      Mine was Malkoran, I was level 12 and he killed me like seven or eight times.  He wasn't even all that tough himself, it's that he's surrounded by his shades, on an elevated platform where he can just fling ice storms at you, and I had to approach him form a narrow corridor where had a prefect killzone and I couldn't dodge the stupid storms.  Oh, and when I finally but the bastard down HE CAME BACK it was so frustrating.

      I remember the first time I fought him and I agree, while he isn't that hard to kill, his shades and ranged magic make it challenging. Although what I've found to be a good way to take him out is if you have the magic and the spell, summon frost atronach, cast that right outside the door and then take out the shades as they try to filter through.

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    • I haven't died in AGES (for at least 15 lvls; I'm lvl 26, I think). I just use Windshear on one enemy and Aela and Serana take care of the rest of them. The hardest was when I was lower lvl (without Windshear) and I, stupidly, hit a giant. At that time, I was all iron gear.

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    • i was hunting deers and then a legendary dragon appeared and i was like... holy sh*t is that a legendary dragon? im soooo fuck*d right now...

      we all know what happened that day after that...


      oh wait... it says person... well i guess the Fire mage i found at some old ruin... I died like 17 times before killing him(oh, and i switched from master to adept, its so embarrassing...)

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    • It's between Harkon and Miraak for me. Harkon only with my mage character, because my firebolts kept missing, and he sent an army of gargoyles and skeletons at me and Serana. And Miraak mostly because either Sarohtaar turned on me with his HORRIBLE ice breath, or my game got stuck in a loop when Miraak was in his ethereal about-to-kill-a-dragon-for-its-soul stage :/ He just stood there invincible, with his dragon sacrifice looking at him, while Sarohtaar flew around attacking everything. Good times.

      Oh, and most recently, the dragon priest Dukaan. Nothing more frustrating than frost magic slowing you down when you KNOW you could hack the guy to pieces in no time.

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    • Ancient Dragon. Still haven't defeated him

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    • ThatMothaFkinKhajiit wrote:
      I had lots of trouble with Falmer when I was low level.

      Yeah, I know what you're talking about.  I ran into a den of them when I was just starting and I didn't know what they were.  Scary!  Looked like some sort of bat people.

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    • that one time when i was against about 20 giants and a horde of mammoths. if that wasnt bad a legend dragon showed up. I WAS LV20!

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    • Quinnelsea wrote:
      that one time when i was against about 20 giants and a horde of mammoths. if that wasnt bad a legend dragon showed up. I WAS LV20!

      Having some fun with console commands, were you, Quinn?

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    • Where was that?  Giant's Toes are great for Alchemy and Mammoths have GRAND souls for Enchanting.

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    • I was testing out the Legendary difficulty last week, and I ran into a gang of Bandits close to Whitewatch Tower.  Said bandits were all fairly high-level (about half of them were Marauders, if memory serves), but they weren't the reason why this was particularly memorable.

      The Arch Conjurer they were fighting, on the other hand, most definitely was.

      Now, this particular build was an Orc in his early sixties with full Daedric, and items that offered a collective 90% Resist Magic.  One blast of Chain Lightning from the Conjurer shaves off about a third of his 400 health even with said magic resistance.  Two more such blasts send the bodies of the bandits flying every which way but loose.

      Realizing archery is pretty much out of the question, Borgakh and I spent about five minutes trying to get close to the damned elf with swords and hammers flying, only to be repelled by the conjurer's Lightning Cloak.  Slowly but surely, we manage to get him to half HP.

      Then I pause to drink a healing potion, and he goes and pulls a Close Wounds on himself, putting him right back at three-quarters health.

      Seeing this, I just grumpily decide "To Oblivion with this," and I have myself and Borgakh bait the Conjurer That Wouldn't Die towards Whitewatch Tower.  Five minutes and twice as many volleys of arrows later, the Conjurer is finally bleeding on the grass.  He doesn't have much in the way of loot on him, which only makes my Orc madder.

      Then one of the guards who downed the conjurer makes the mistake of turning to me and saying "Go fiddling with any locks around here ... "

      Before he's finished talking, my Orc picks the lock to the nearby chest in a fit of combined rage and vindictive pleasure.  The filled Grand Soul Gem he found inside was worth the jail time.

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    • any enemy is challanging when you underestimate them.... i have the vanilla game, and id have to rank the Falmer as one of the toughest. they are always in groups, highly sensitive to movement, spells not to mention their resistance to some magic, and frost resistance... their use of frost and shock spells are crippling... throw in a good use of swords and bows....

      (and some of them cause poisen damage) they can be a real challange...

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    • For the lower levels below 25, I'd have to say saber cats. The damn things assault me 3 at a time sometimes when I'm exploring near Windhelm.

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    • Karstaag, wow just getting ready to go there and I'm pumped. Will stop by the store on the way though. I agree with several up there. Once it took me several respawns to get the one Briarheart they tuff. Originally was so glad to defeat Alduin the first time think I jumped of the mountain with GLEE!Laslo451 (talk) 15:13, April 15, 2013 (UTC)

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    • I fought a Dragon Priest near a Word Wall that was close to Labarynthian however he had a dragon that had perched itself on the wall and helped him, I had to summon Odahviing to help me. It was cool, Odahviing fought the dragon in an ariel battle while I battled with the priest on the ground, eventually I finally managed to destroy the priest just as Odahviing killed the other dragon, it was very difficult but awesome.

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    • Ebony Warrior He FUS RO DA ME OF A CLIFF JEEZ

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    • Or da GRAY BEARRDDS  THEY USE ICE FORM TOO MANY TIMES

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    • No enemies have been particularly challenging beyond level 50, but there have been challenging circumstances, specifically vampires popping up in town and killing key NPCs requiring reloading to try again and again to keep them alive.

      Recently these rabbits have been appearing whenever I Fast Travel.  Not the best place for them to materialize this time, I think.

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    • When I first started this game and had to kill a dragon priest, it was Hevnorakk I believe, he took me 20 minutes in real life time cowering behind blocks and pillars and accidentally killing Lydia too trying to kill him. He to this day is still the reason my Imperial (Named Scourge) is my only account that Lydia is dead on, and he is also my first account.

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    • 77.98.203.197 wrote:
      Ebony Warrior He FUS RO DA ME OF A CLIFF JEEZ

      Have you tried fighting him while playing as a pure mage and only wearing cloth... It's an interesting battle! I eventually broke the rules as pure mage by killing him with my Spellbreaker/Windshear combo lol! 


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    • Hmm, Not sure, there are a few.

      Joined the college in level 2 to get to the illusion spells... What happens when I walk out? a goddam "Challenger" appears...

      Forsworn Biarheart (I'll avoid hagravens until I find a mod to make them pretty)

      Harkon too... He goes Vampire lord and just screws us over

      Lastly I guess Frost Giant (I have Dragonborn but haven't played it much... Damn Miraak steals my souls.)

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    • dude harkon was so easy to me he died in like 4 shots WITH A FREAKING CROSBOW!!! (by the way sunhallowed arows SUCK!

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    • I was a vampire lord and I tried fighting him as such...

      BTW the way hardest person to kill Is grelod the kind... That 1 goddam hp...

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    • to say the truth no one\nothing i leveled up very fast with ogma and now i kill ancient dragons with 3 shots

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    • has anyone here slayed the reaper in the soul cairn?


      71.228.33.98 wrote:
      dude harkon was so easy to me he died in like 4 shots WITH A FREAKING CROSBOW!!! (by the way sunhallowed arows SUCK!

      yeah right... you play in apprentice buddy? be a man and put that damn game in legendary before saying is easy...

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    • Hardest thing to me (i do not have Dawnguard) was a master vampire. I don't remember what the quest was, i just had to clear a cave, i go there like it's no big deal, kill like 10 orcs with a bow, then there's this vampire. A boosted and enchanted Daedric Dagger sneak attack with Assassin Blade did about 15%, so in the 1v1 i lost miserably. It took half an hour to kill it with bows, and since then i hate vampires. Also the Forsworn are quite weak but those who hold 2 swords can be troublesome

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    • Karstaag, WOW. a  week or so ago this post came up and saw that he is tough, been wanting to do the quest for the use of summoning him again.Took a bit to find  ruins of his home. Picked lock fought the few reiklings and laid his helm on the chair, oh my. If the first shout or magic does not get you that club will. I ran back, turned just as Iona went flying pass me.Level 50 keeps me thinking I can kill anything, gonna wait a few more levels for him, also may have to put my no shock heavy armor back on, but what funLaslo451 (talk) 13:20, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

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    • Giants at lvl 5. even on novice you go flying.

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    • those assholes in apocrypha. all of them. they should all die slowly and painfully.

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    • Even on legendary falmer are easy with muffled boots,glass sword, and lv 56 sneak.

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    • Aura Whisper & a decent bow make most enemies dead ducks before they know what hit them.  Funny how it never gets old.

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    • i don't have many challenging opponents. usually, if i do die, it takes all of one or two reloads before i figure out exactly how to go about killing the enemies at hand. though i'd have to say, i started off spell swording (fire in my left hand and sword in the other) and attacked knifepoint ridge once. bad move. the bandit cheif smashed my head in one hit at full health (low level, i play on expert). i've also faced down the keepers, they're fairly easy if you handle them right (you also get free dragonbone weapons if you're fast enough). harkkon was easy, i went werewolf against his vampire lord and wrecked him. at any rate, i have had some interesting battles that reduced me to low hp before i finally won, the most recent one i can't exactly remember but i know i came out on top with like 3 hp left. i think it was a legendary dragon at Klarthspire or whatever it's called (the entrence to sky haven temple full of forsworn). i had them, a legendary and an ancient dragon attacking me. i don't think i had j'zargo either. so it was tough, but it got done.

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    • TodKarlson wrote:
      Aura Whisper & a decent bow make most enemies dead ducks before they know what hit them.  Funny how it never gets old.

      So true. Aura Whisper is by far my favorite shout. Even on characters like my warriors and un-stealthy characters, just because I like to know what I'm up against, and because you can get fairly close to enemies and they still don't hear it.

      What's funny is my cousin who also has the game saw me use once and said, "Whoa how'd you get aimbot for Skyrim?!". Just never gets old. :)

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    • Neloths apprentice is by far the best follower. I beat Karstag when I was lv 12 because i had him

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    • Azaltar wrote:
      Neloths apprentice is by far the best follower. I beat Karstag when I was lv 12 because i had him


      Aren't you exaggerating a bit? I'm lvl 72 with my armor rating at the max and %54 frost resistance and that bastard kill me in 3 / 4 hits

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    • Guys, you should state the difficulty you're playing on. That way we understand where you're at and if you say that "Kaarstag was easy" or other enemies that are challenging at high levels of difficulty we can ignore you.

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    • Lawadnorder wrote:
      Guys, you should state the difficulty you're playing on. That way we understand where you're at and if you say that "Kaarstag was easy" or other enemies that are challenging at high levels of difficulty we can ignore you.


      Amen! there are a buch of people that say: but that was so easy and they are playing in Apprentice... so lame...

      P.S. i play in Legendary

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    • I was on expert back then and a ton of fireballs seemed to kill him

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    • Never underestimate a guy who casts fire at a giant weak to fire

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    • Btw I used the secret of arcana and telekinisis glitch to level my alteration to 100 four times using legendary and I got my conjuration to 100 with soul trap and I got my illusion using the muffle thing so now I am so weak but at a high lv so I'm on adept now

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    • Karstaag was painful, he freezes you, throws you away and does a lot of damage. Sometimes a large gang of Vampires can be painful, as they drain your health fast when in a group and they usually cast ice spells to slow you down, catching you in crossfire.

      The easiest boss was Harkon. While he gloats to Serana, you can calmly walk behind him, go into the sneak pose and one-hit-kill him with a power-backstab.

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    • So far for me, it was a Dragon Priest. I was Level 27 or so at the time and accidentally stubled upon Krosis as I fought a Dragon. It was one hell of a fight; each fire ball of his left me with barely any Health, and I'm certain I would have died if I didn't have 2 human Followers and a Pet to distract him and whittle down his health. However, he, and all Dragons, are fun fights. Creatures such as Chaurus (regular Chaurus, not hunters), and high level Bandit Chiefs with two-handed weapons are more annoying, sometimes frustrating.

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    • old orc gave me a hard time, and also giants at lower levels, i had to use bow and take an unpathable position to shoot them with bow, and when they start walking away i go down from the spot and they will go back to try to club me and then i got back on to the spot again to shoot them, it was very fun

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    • Definitely Miraak. He wasn't actually hard to kill, but the game kept glitching and locking him in ethereal mode.

      The most challenging? Probably when I misclicked and firebreath the jarl of whiterun. They have a whole lotta guards. I went outside and a legendary dragon of some sort flew into whiterun.

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    • The Gatekeeper in Miraak's Temple

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    • nobody has fought against The Reaper???

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    • The Frost Troll on the way to the Throat of the World, he seems a little unfair if you've practically just started the game...

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    • Just get a fire-enchanted bow, sneak attack, back off, sneak attack, back off, sneak attack, back off, sneak attack, back off, sneak attack as many times as it takes.  If it takes long enough, you can draw him down into the nearby town and the guards will help you kill him.

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    • Right now I am playing on Adept and at lvl 8 during the proving honor quest I ran into a draugr death lord took me a few reloads before I was able to beat and at one point I think it had a deadric weapon but not sure. I got an ebony war axe from it.

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    • 71.28.108.118 wrote:
      The Frost Troll on the way to the Throat of the World, he seems a little unfair if you've practically just started the game...

      That's pretty easy to evade, if your sneak is high enough then you can get past it, otherwise just jump up on the mountains

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    • Definitely the Draugr Overlords in Labyrinthian/ Lost Valkygg

      God, they were hard at Lvl 12.

      Falmer were also fairly hard at a low level, especially when you are getting swarmed by them and Chauruses in those hard-to-see caves. Urgh.

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    • Right now fighting a master necromancer. So far...failing. Shoots one ice storm thingy. . .and I'm dead. Advice?

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    • Nevermind. Turned into a werewolf and killed her in three hits.

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    • I used to be 81 with 460 damage per hit...then I fought the ebony warrior.

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    • That Forsworn girl up by the forge in Karthspire who summons a frost atronach and spams ice storm gets pretty annoying doing the main quest. Also the glenmoril witch coven is ridiculous at low levels. They spam fireball with reckless abandon before you get close making a low level companion miserable. Obviously Falmer at low levels are pretty tough too. I'm surprised i haven't seen anyone mention Dwarven Centurions. That steam man...

      All adept difficulty comments btw ;D

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    • The necromancer inside Boulderfall Cave is nigh-impossible - time was, I'd go in there on Novice difficulty, knowing full well what lay inside - and I'd still die about half a dozen times. The area is so small that one Ice Storm in there is absolutely unavoidable.  The bone chimes strung up there don't help matters at all.

      On the other hand, Centurions are deceptively easy to take down.  If you get really up close to them - like, right up to their groin - you can avoid both their steam and their punches.

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    • You know 100 sneak and some nice dragonbone daggers tend to solve most of my problems...

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    • Malkoran. Especially his shade. Seriously, how the flying feather can you be stronger in death than you were in life?!

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    • Sgt. S.S. wrote:
      Malkoran. Especially his shade. Seriously, how the flying feather can you be stronger in death than you were in life?!


      It's the other way around for me.  I don't know what it is about that Ice Storm, but sweet Luna in a moon bounce does it ruin your day.

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    • The Ice Storm. Sweet Celestia, the Ice Storm. It's the spell that has made brave men run for their lives. Where MW2 had the M16, and Black Ops had the FAMAS, Skyrim has Ice Storm.

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    • When you are doing the quest for the Bloodskall blade and your in the room with all the Druagr... made me use 40 potions of healing, i mean it was no big deal they were all normal potions. Still made me made that it took me 3 trys to kill like 20 of them and 3 Deathlords at one go.

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    • Now with my new mods the hardest creature I have killed are 2 dragons appearing at the same time... Normally I would hand their ass to them but not this time...

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    • 58.169.249.144 wrote:
      Mine is hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm i knowit is the evil horrible FLUFFY BUNNY RABBIT

      this.

      my friends and I where playing a drinking game, and when someone saw a rabbit and yelled it out you had 30 seconds to kill it or you have to drink five shots of hard liqour. Now I kill all rabbits I see for practise incase we ever do another drinking game.

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    • oh, also pumpkin , he was so cute and peacfull, then Aela shoots an arrow through his eye. I saved and beat Aela to a bloody pulp while raging war through the rest of the cavern.

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    • The Sheerpoint Drangon,Elder and Dargon priest,

      I took the dragon out with really no health left and had to play dodgeball with the dragon priest for about 2 minutes before i could fight him,my follower sucked (ria) and was down in like 3 hits.Great fun though.

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    • Spiegel1 wrote:
      Sgt. S.S. wrote:
      Malkoran. Especially his shade. Seriously, how the flying feather can you be stronger in death than you were in life?!

      It's the other way around for me.  I don't know what it is about that Ice Storm, but sweet Luna in a moon bounce does it ruin your day.

      I recall that one tiem I had trouble getting to him as a melee-based character. What I finally decided on was chugging an invisibility potion, running over and spamming high-level poisons and power attacks to kill his normal form. After that I quickly looted the staff of ice storms off his corpse and just spammed Ice Storms. It was one of the most ridiculous battles I've experienced, and by the end the ice storms had thrown junk all over the floor, but it worked.

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    • One time, I fought col. Sanders and General Tso at the same time, Luckily I made it out alive...

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    • I was able to kill malkoran with my slow time... Rolled him over with my awesome gear :p

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    • The last time I fought Malkoran I just summon two storm atronochs and used a ton of shock spells, taking away his spells, and then his shade was a bit of trouble, bit both my atronochs were still alive, and that kept me alive.

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    • The hardest and most frustrating enemy i fought was the Forsworn Briarheart using magic spells.

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    • Mine was the Ebony Warrior... on Master difficulty when I am dead on level 80. That is difficult though I am a Mage-Archer.

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    • I wish I was able to kill the Ebony Warrior, the highest level I have ever been on a save was 62. I have multiple saves on Skyrim, maybe in the mid 40's at least.

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    • yeah, I'm kind of forcing myself to continue this character because I really want to fight the ebony warrior, even though this character has lost a lot of fun. He's still okay, but most of the fun is coming from trying to fight the ebony warrior.

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    • I just now started a new save devoted to killing the Ebony Warrior. This means I will probably have to use a bunch of skills iv never used before like Illusion and Aliteration (I hope I spelled that right), but in the end it will be worth it.

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    • Don't learn Illusion past the silent casting perk! It is utterly useless and I had it on an Argonian mage who ended up being useless, ahem, the problem is it is worthless once enemies get over level 30. Alteration on the other hand is fantastic and is easy to spam with the Secret of Arcana and Telekenisis. I <3 Ebonyflesh,  I would go for an archer or a mage for the Ebony Warrior fight as he can take you out in seconds up close but remember he can take you out far away with his own bow as well if you aren't careful but for that I use Conjuration to distract him so being far away is definetly better.

      Remember, the mind is the best weapon you have.

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    • Toshero Hitsugaya wrote:
      I just now started a new save devoted to killing the Ebony Warrior. This means I will probably have to use a bunch of skills iv never used before like Illusion and Aliteration (I hope I spelled that right), but in the end it will be worth it.


      With the new patch out, you can basically reset your skills as many times as you need to.  Mage skills are probably the easiest trees to do so, I've found.

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    • 72.89.117.174 wrote:
      That Forsworn girl up by the forge in Karthspire who summons a frost atronach and spams ice storm gets pretty annoying doing the main quest...

      I use her for a Dead Thrall .  She's GREAT, when she's on YOUR side.

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    • Spiegel1 wrote:
      Toshero Hitsugaya wrote:
      I just now started a new save devoted to killing the Ebony Warrior. This means I will probably have to use a bunch of skills iv never used before like Illusion and Aliteration (I hope I spelled that right), but in the end it will be worth it.

      With the new patch out, you can basically reset your skills as many times as you need to.  Mage skills are probably the easiest trees to do so, I've found.

      Yes I know, but i dont like restarting my sneek skill as well as others such as Enchanting a Alchemy.

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    • Really, I reset enchanting all the time, first I enchant my real gear, then I reset it and craft iron daggers to enchant with banish, sometimes I can go up three skill levels with a single dagger. it helps increase my overall level too.

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    • Krosis gave me alot of trouble when I first encountered him. My companion would -always- wake him mid fight with the Dragon.

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    • Krosis was pretty hard because I was unprepared. Otherwise the Ebony warrior since he somehow insta-killed me with his deflection. Got him eventually though but I DID underestimate him.

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    • Paarthunax, now let me explain,

      I don't think it was hard combat wise, it was hard morally, In fact after I did it I reloaded a save and never even talked to the Blades again.......

      But combat wise? Probably the Ebony Warrior because I wasn't even close to prepaired!

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    • Anybody else think the Ebony Warrior is actually Illidan? "YOU ARE NOT PREPARED!"

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    • Erik Torvaldson wrote:
      Anybody else think the Ebony Warrior is actually Illidan? "YOU ARE NOT PREPARED!"

      Though I have no real proof I think it would be interesting if the Ebony Warrior turned out to be Cyrus from Redguard turned immortal, that would explain his massive power and how he has "Done everything",

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    • AzuraKnight wrote:
      58.169.249.144 wrote:
      Mine is hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm i knowit is the evil horrible FLUFFY BUNNY RABBIT
      With the big pointy teeth! RUN AWAY, RUN AWAY!

      "RUN AWAY!"-Monty Python?

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    • As for the topic, I had trouble with Morokei after he glitched through a pillar and became practically unkillable. (I ended up spamming some Fire Storm scrolls I'd been saving.) I also hate Frostbite Spiders and Chaurus for their jumpy attack style.. They're pretty hard to shoot. ._.

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    • AlxCj wrote:
      nobody has fought against The Reaper???

      Point taken. He's tough.

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    • here are 3 of my hardest to kill in Skyrim

      1) draugr deathlords

      2) dragon priests

      3) bunnies

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    • ParanormalAndroid wrote:
      AlxCj wrote:
      nobody has fought against The Reaper???
      Point taken. He's tough.


      How so?!  I just snipe the Reaper.  If my archery's high enough, I can down it inside of a dozen arrows.

      Then again, I never go into the Soul Cairn until I'm in my forties, because that's roundabout when the Keepers drop their dragonbone weapons.

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    • Spiegel1 wrote:
      ParanormalAndroid wrote:
      AlxCj wrote:
      nobody has fought against The Reaper???
      Point taken. He's tough.

      How so?!  I just snipe the Reaper.  If my archery's high enough, I can down it inside of a dozen arrows.

      Then again, I never go into the Soul Cairn until I'm in my forties, because that's roundabout when the Keepers drop their dragonbone weapons.

      well, sniping is easy, it pretty much turns all fights into hide-n-go-seek, if they even survive the first shot.

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    • Spiegel1 wrote:
      ParanormalAndroid wrote:
      AlxCj wrote:
      nobody has fought against The Reaper???
      Point taken. He's tough.

      How so?!  I just snipe the Reaper.  If my archery's high enough, I can down it inside of a dozen arrows.

      Then again, I never go into the Soul Cairn until I'm in my forties, because that's roundabout when the Keepers drop their dragonbone weapons.

      He was tough because I used melee. And I didn't get any Dragonbone weapons, I  was level forty. 

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    • He was tough because I used melee. And I didn't get any Dragonbone weapons, I  was level forty. 

      Mid-forties, I should've said.  Sorry.  I think they drop at 45 or 46, something like that.

      Not like I'm terribly worried, anyway.  I never use dragonbone, -plate, or -scale equipment; it's all about the specialty/faction sets for me.  But they certainly look good on my wall.

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    • Oh. I could have used some decent dragonbone equipment. Still, I can level up smithing.. And it's not very hard to get the materials.

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    • One might say it's almost too easy.  I had to take some perks off my main's Smithing tree because she's killed so many dragons and turned so many of their bones into arrows that at time of writing, she has over six thousand of the sodding things.

      I'm kind of a roleplayer as well; I like to dress some of my characters in a certain suit of armor just to give myself a bit of a challenge when playing.  Said main wears full Ancient Shrouded, for example.  I've got a few others who refuse to carry anything but Falmer, Forsworn, or Ancient Nord equipment, respectively.

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    • I have a bit of a predilection for Ebony equipment.. But it's far too rare, the swords especially.   

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    • ParanormalAndroid wrote:
      Spiegel1 wrote:
      ParanormalAndroid wrote:
      AlxCj wrote:
      nobody has fought against The Reaper???
      Point taken. He's tough.

      How so?!  I just snipe the Reaper.  If my archery's high enough, I can down it inside of a dozen arrows.

      Then again, I never go into the Soul Cairn until I'm in my forties, because that's roundabout when the Keepers drop their dragonbone weapons.

      He was tough because I used melee. And I didn't get any Dragonbone weapons, I  was level forty. 

      I just killed him earlier with full ebony armour (epic quality) and an Epic Quality Ebony battleaxe. Just hit him with flame breat, all 3 words, and a couple power shots from my battleaxe. Seemed easy to me, but then again even the Keepers seemed easy on this character but I usually have problems with them. Only level 23

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    • ParanormalAndroid wrote:
      I have a bit of a predilection for Ebony equipment.. But it's far too rare, the swords especially.   

      Ebony gear is rather sexy xD

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    • the freaking mages that spam ice storm or fireball that do like 100 dmg per hit

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    • Bjc2002 wrote:
      the freaking mages that spam ice storm or fireball that do like 100 dmg per hit

      Like whats his face in Meridia's temple? Hated that guy.

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    • Those fireball turrets are really tricky for low levels, but Morokei was hard on my first mage... although he was only level 8 ( walked from helgen to the College)

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    • First time playing, I wandered into cracked tusk keep and the orc leader gave me fits. Every other hit from him was a kill cam.

      I also find groups of enemies difficult on legendary, they require you to be so careful about taking hits. Thank god for followers!

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    • Karstagg, The Dragon Priest in Labyrinthian, That Lunatic Mage in the Honningbrew meadery for the Thieves Guild.

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    • Thalmor Assassin wrote:
      Karstagg, The Dragon Priest in Labyrinthian, That Lunatic Mage in the Honningbrew meadery for the Thieves Guild.


      Ugh, Hamelyn.  There's a few reasons why I've only even done the Thieves Guild questline once.  Irkngthand is one.  Tolvald's Cave is the other.  And Hamelyn?  He just comes out of sodding nowhere - you don't expect to see him at all!

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    • ebony axes are just as good as daedric

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    • alduin on legendery so hard died 7 times

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    • Spiegel1 wrote:
      Thalmor Assassin wrote:
      Karstagg, The Dragon Priest in Labyrinthian, That Lunatic Mage in the Honningbrew meadery for the Thieves Guild.

      Ugh, Hamelyn.  There's a few reasons why I've only even done the Thieves Guild questline once.  Irkngthand is one.  Tolvald's Cave is the other.  And Hamelyn?  He just comes out of sodding nowhere - you don't expect to see him at all!

      I was scared shitless when I first saw him, and by saw, I mean he came up behind me and attacked.....And Sodding? are you British?

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    • After I killed Alduin, I realized that my brother had set it on Novice. It was worse than Legendary because it was way too easy.

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    • King of Skyrim wrote:
      Spiegel1 wrote:
      Thalmor Assassin wrote:
      Karstagg, The Dragon Priest in Labyrinthian, That Lunatic Mage in the Honningbrew meadery for the Thieves Guild.

      Ugh, Hamelyn.  There's a few reasons why I've only even done the Thieves Guild questline once.  Irkngthand is one.  Tolvald's Cave is the other.  And Hamelyn?  He just comes out of sodding nowhere - you don't expect to see him at all!
      I was scared shitless when I first saw him, and by saw, I mean he came up behind me and attacked.....And Sodding? are you British?

      Would there be a problem if he were British?

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    • Miraak.

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    • Incarnate Sable wrote:
      King of Skyrim wrote:
      Spiegel1 wrote:
      Thalmor Assassin wrote:
      Karstagg, The Dragon Priest in Labyrinthian, That Lunatic Mage in the Honningbrew meadery for the Thieves Guild.

      Ugh, Hamelyn.  There's a few reasons why I've only even done the Thieves Guild questline once.  Irkngthand is one.  Tolvald's Cave is the other.  And Hamelyn?  He just comes out of sodding nowhere - you don't expect to see him at all!
      I was scared shitless when I first saw him, and by saw, I mean he came up behind me and attacked.....And Sodding? are you British?
      Would there be a problem if he were British?

      No, would it be a problem if I were American?

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    • King of Skyrim wrote:
      Incarnate Sable wrote:
      King of Skyrim wrote:
      Spiegel1 wrote:
      Thalmor Assassin wrote:
      Karstagg, The Dragon Priest in Labyrinthian, That Lunatic Mage in the Honningbrew meadery for the Thieves Guild.

      Ugh, Hamelyn.  There's a few reasons why I've only even done the Thieves Guild questline once.  Irkngthand is one.  Tolvald's Cave is the other.  And Hamelyn?  He just comes out of sodding nowhere - you don't expect to see him at all!
      I was scared shitless when I first saw him, and by saw, I mean he came up behind me and attacked.....And Sodding? are you British?
      Would there be a problem if he were British?
      No, would it be a problem if I were American?

      Nope. As long as none of us support the ideas of Kim Jong Un, we're alll good.

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    • Incarnate Sable wrote:
      King of Skyrim wrote:
      Incarnate Sable wrote:
      King of Skyrim wrote:
      Spiegel1 wrote:
      Thalmor Assassin wrote:
      Karstagg, The Dragon Priest in Labyrinthian, That Lunatic Mage in the Honningbrew meadery for the Thieves Guild.

      Ugh, Hamelyn.  There's a few reasons why I've only even done the Thieves Guild questline once.  Irkngthand is one.  Tolvald's Cave is the other.  And Hamelyn?  He just comes out of sodding nowhere - you don't expect to see him at all!
      I was scared shitless when I first saw him, and by saw, I mean he came up behind me and attacked.....And Sodding? are you British?
      Would there be a problem if he were British?
      No, would it be a problem if I were American?
      Nope. As long as none of us support the ideas of Kim Jong Un, we're alll good.

      The only thing I support of Kim Jong Un, is his execution....

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    • King of Skyrim wrote:
      Incarnate Sable wrote:
      King of Skyrim wrote:
      Incarnate Sable wrote:
      King of Skyrim wrote:
      Spiegel1 wrote:
      Thalmor Assassin wrote:
      Karstagg, The Dragon Priest in Labyrinthian, That Lunatic Mage in the Honningbrew meadery for the Thieves Guild.

      Ugh, Hamelyn.  There's a few reasons why I've only even done the Thieves Guild questline once.  Irkngthand is one.  Tolvald's Cave is the other.  And Hamelyn?  He just comes out of sodding nowhere - you don't expect to see him at all!
      I was scared shitless when I first saw him, and by saw, I mean he came up behind me and attacked.....And Sodding? are you British?
      Would there be a problem if he were British?
      No, would it be a problem if I were American?
      Nope. As long as none of us support the ideas of Kim Jong Un, we're alll good.
      The only thing I support of Kim Jong Un, is his execution....

      HOW DARE YOU MOCK THE ETERNAL REDER!

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    • krosis plus his little pet dragon. screw that. I was only level 9 and walked up to shearpoint to kill the dragon. It didn't move so i walked closer and out popped krosis. I figured the dragon would be the problem. I didn't even know what a dragon priest was yet.  

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    • GOD DANG MOROKEI ON LEGENDARY AS A MAGE

      (you can't imagine the things i've seen, the things i've done....sob....)

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    • Nerevarine465 wrote:
      GOD DANG MOROKEI ON LEGENDARY AS A MAGE

      (you can't imagine the things i've seen, the things i've done....sob....)

      I gave up trying to kill him legit, just went beast mode on his ass (werewolf muahaha literal)

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    • MrCc1004 wrote:
      King of Skyrim wrote:
      Incarnate Sable wrote:
      King of Skyrim wrote:
      Incarnate Sable wrote:
      King of Skyrim wrote:
      Spiegel1 wrote:
      Thalmor Assassin wrote:
      Karstagg, The Dragon Priest in Labyrinthian, That Lunatic Mage in the Honningbrew meadery for the Thieves Guild.

      Ugh, Hamelyn.  There's a few reasons why I've only even done the Thieves Guild questline once.  Irkngthand is one.  Tolvald's Cave is the other.  And Hamelyn?  He just comes out of sodding nowhere - you don't expect to see him at all!
      I was scared shitless when I first saw him, and by saw, I mean he came up behind me and attacked.....And Sodding? are you British?
      Would there be a problem if he were British?
      No, would it be a problem if I were American?
      Nope. As long as none of us support the ideas of Kim Jong Un, we're alll good.
      The only thing I support of Kim Jong Un, is his execution....
      HOW DARE YOU MOCK THE ETERNAL REDER!

      I CAN MOCK THAT FAT CUBBY BITCH ANY WAY I WANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • Back On Topic, I fought Miraak the first time in legendary last night, this character didn't have much magic resistance and no shock resistance, two hits left me with the options of hide or chug a potion, let's just say I forgot to stock up a ton of potions because the fight in which I finally beat him took me three hours(including all the pauses and hiding behind piles of books while I regened)

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    • I think giants are the hardest thing I faced and I could kill briar hearts in one ice storm shot

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    • Giants are easy... You can kill them with little effort at level 1.

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    • UselessArgonianMage wrote: Giants are easy... You can kill them with little effort at level 1.

      Just because you find them easy to kill doesn't mean everybody else does.

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    • Sgt. S.S. wrote:

      UselessArgonianMage wrote: Giants are easy... You can kill them with little effort at level 1.

      Just because you find them easy to kill doesn't mean everybody else does.

      Of course but you don't seem to get it, when being relative Giants are easy. An individual has there own experience on difficulty depending on their skill at the game and the actual diffculty you are playing on as well as your class but relativity doesn't change very much from player to player. So I'll reword it:

      Giants are easier then other enemies... You can kill them with little effort at level 1 when playing on most difficulties depending on who you are and how good you are with that character.

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    • I tend to stay away from giants at level 1... They're crazy about that man on the moon project...

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    • When i restarted my character i got the first shield i found in Helgen, then ran to the first giant camp i saw and trained Block deflecting their blows, you can also level up Heavy Armor and Restoration there. Not hard battles at all

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    • Difficulty also has quite a role...

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    • I killed my first giant by hiding in some rocks near his camp, sniping at him and running around the rocks.  It took about an hour.  Later I fought one who wouldn't go in the water.

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    • I once fought a slaughterfish then I tried to run away didn't take long to figure ut that it could go up on land... (I miss you old skyrim :p)

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    • UselessArgonianMage wrote:
      Sgt. S.S. wrote:

      UselessArgonianMage wrote: Giants are easy... You can kill them with little effort at level 1.

      Just because you find them easy to kill doesn't mean everybody else does.
      Of course but you don't seem to get it, when being relative Giants are easy. An individual has there own experience on difficulty depending on their skill at the game and the actual diffculty you are playing on as well as your class but relativity doesn't change very much from player to player. So I'll reword it:

      Giants are easier then other enemies... You can kill them with little effort at level 1 when playing on most difficulties depending on who you are and how good you are with that character.

      Now when you say that, do you mean actually fighting them, or just using the game's mechanics to make it impossible for them to get at you while you just pelt them with arrows or magic? I consider those two things seperate. 

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    • I once got killed by slaughter fish because I didn't know what was attacking me (I was fairly low leveled) and you can't draw weapons in water.

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    • haha :D

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    • lol.. :)

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    • argh... щ(゚Д゚щ)

      (Sorry, wanted to join in)

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    • UselessArgonianMage wrote:
      argh... щ(゚Д゚щ)

      (Sorry, wanted to join in)

      Was that Russian?

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    • It's a face.

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    • King of Skyrim wrote:
      UselessArgonianMage wrote:
      argh... щ(゚Д゚щ)

      (Sorry, wanted to join in)

      Was that Russian?

      Oui, les lettres étaient.

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    • UselessArgonianMage wrote:
      King of Skyrim wrote:
      UselessArgonianMage wrote:
      argh... щ(゚Д゚щ)

      (Sorry, wanted to join in)

      Was that Russian?
      Oui, les lettres étaient.

      French?

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    • はい

      Anyway, although it is Morrowind I find Nix Hounds quite difficult as they come out of literally everywhere. That is the thing with Morrowind, few things are actually difficult but they come out of everywhere in large numbers.

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    • Thai? or Japanese? Asian?

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    • Akaviri actually.

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    • This is hard… I guess Ysgrammor?

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    • Don'e even tell me, that you are multilingual, and one of them is Akaviri

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    • Japonés,

      Can you guys think of any difficult enemies in Oblivion? I can't actually think of any.

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    • While on my way to Karthspire i was attacked by an Ancient Dragon, a Frost Dragon, and A Blood Dragon. I was only lvl 25 like really it was just unfair.

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    • UselessArgonianMage wrote:
      Japonés,

      Can you guys think of any difficult enemies in Oblivion? I can't actually think of any.


      Wispmothers, They are very hard on early levels...

      Also, Mehrunes Dagon.....

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    • UselessArgonianMage wrote:

      Can you guys think of any difficult enemies in Oblivion? I can't actually think of any.

      The hardest battle for me was in the Arena, when there's 3 argonians at once. It took me like 10 tries to beat them, i had awful equipment but i won, then i forgot to save and the next day i was so angry i switched the difficulty to the minimum to punch them to death. Other than that, what kills me all the timein Oblivion is underwater breathing and swimming in lava pits

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    • Rahgot because he had a draugr scourges and deathlords helping him and Forelhost is probably the hardest dungeon.

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    • And guys he said people not creatures

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    • XRainbowniumx wrote:
      And guys he said people not creatures

      Dragon Priests are people

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    • i really dont know.. Alduin was kinda easy for me

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    • apparently Useless can say japanese in spanish... maybe he's not as useless as I thought... I havent played through dragonborn yet, is miraak hard?

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    • Nait Nelthar wrote:
      apparently Useless can say japanese in spanish... maybe he's not as useless as I thought... I havent played through dragonborn yet, is miraak hard?

      He can be, my last battle with him lasted me around four hours

      but I was extremely under prepared, and Frea had my best weapons and some of my potions/scrolls that I forgot to take back before she became unacceptable.

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    • 72.228.21.119 wrote:
      i really dont know.. Alduin was kinda easy for me

      Alduin was really easy, mainly because you can just run around dodging his breath and have the other warriors of Sovngarde kill him for you. Tsun was very tough for me, but probably only because i was way too under-leveled and had next to no potions and bad armor

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    • my assassin got her butt kicked by tsun... I was wearing normal shrouded...

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    • Nait Nelthar wrote: my assassin got her butt kicked by tsun... I was wearing normal shrouded...

      Liar, you can't bring followers to Sovngarde unless you summon an ally.

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    • By assassin, he means himself(his character's a girl...)

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    • Yeah Tsun always gives my assassins good butt kickings as well

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    • Practicing Destruction spells on my Bandit Chief Dead Thrall, and she kicked my ass before I could say, "just kidding".

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    • My hardest recent encounter was when my DE battlemage went up against Zahkriisos. We had this 10 minute shootout where I would fire off rounds of firebolts and then he would fire lightning bolts or thunderbolts, and he had me pinned even with my flame atronach and Jenassa fighting alongside me.

      Eventually he moves to the otherside of the room and begins dueling my flame atronach from there, so I decide to charge him and pop some lightning elixirs. Whew. He nearly took me down a few times, but I lvled up and restored my health(and magicka) and was able to take him down once Jenassa got back up and we both started laying into him. Oh and the stray dog was there too. Sadly, I lost him after I went to Apocrypha. XD

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    • Aaron0 wrote:
      My hardest recent encounter was when my DE battlemage went up against Zahkriisos. We had this 10 minute shootout where I would fire off rounds of firebolts and then he would fire lightning bolts or thunderbolts, and he had me pinned even with my flame atronach and Jenassa fighting alongside me.

      Eventually he moves to the otherside of the room and begins dueling my flame atronach from there, so I decide to charge him and pop some lightning elixirs. Whew. He nearly took me down a few times, but I lvled up and restored my health(and magicka) and was able to take him down once Jenassa got back up and we both started laying into him. Oh and the stray dog was there too. Sadly, I lost him after I went to Apocrypha. XD


      At higher levels he cats lightning storm which is an absolute pain, it shredded my atronachs in to pieces. 

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    • Thecrimsonking wrote:
      krosis plus his little pet dragon. screw that. I was only level 9 and walked up to shearpoint to kill the dragon. It didn't move so i walked closer and out popped krosis. I figured the dragon would be the problem. I didn't even know what a dragon priest was yet.  

      When I fought Krosis, I knocked him off of shearpoint. He didn't take fall damage, but his spells kept hitting the rock I was standing on. I emptied my quiver of about 75 orcish (I was a low level back then), but for Krosis and three shout words? Small prrice to pay.

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    • Lonebosmer41 wrote:
      Aaron0 wrote:
      My hardest recent encounter was when my DE battlemage went up against Zahkriisos. We had this 10 minute shootout where I would fire off rounds of firebolts and then he would fire lightning bolts or thunderbolts, and he had me pinned even with my flame atronach and Jenassa fighting alongside me.

      Eventually he moves to the otherside of the room and begins dueling my flame atronach from there, so I decide to charge him and pop some lightning elixirs. Whew. He nearly took me down a few times, but I lvled up and restored my health(and magicka) and was able to take him down once Jenassa got back up and we both started laying into him. Oh and the stray dog was there too. Sadly, I lost him after I went to Apocrypha. XD


      At higher levels he cats lightning storm which is an absolute pain, it shredded my atronachs in to pieces. 

      Thunderbolt does a great job at that as well. lol I was lvl 12 when I went up against him. I also tried frost atronachs, but they went down before they even got in striking distance.

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    • maybe use storm atronachs? or fire? fire uses ranged... I don't know anything about storm atronachs tho never used them and no npc summons them...

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    • He diid use fire

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    • i haven't fought all enemies in the game but atleast on my difficulty (expert) i think one of the hardest enemies was the giant charus under the lighthouse close to winterhold.

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    • Want my advice?  Never take a low-level mage into Lost Valkygg.  I've probably died in there about forty times on five different characters.  Or more - I haven't bothered keeping track.

      Those two Deathlords at the end - especially the one with the bow - WRECK.  YOUR.  SHIT.

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    • Nait Nelthar wrote:
      maybe use storm atronachs? or fire? fire uses ranged... I don't know anything about storm atronachs tho never used them and no npc summons them...

      Storm Atronach have health higher than fire but lower then frost, are immune to lightning and use magic and melee attacks.They use primarily magic but in close range melee.They are basically a mixture of they other two.Just add lightning.

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    • Storm atronachs wouldn't have been a better idea in hindsight. I usually only have flame and frost atronachs to combat the fire/frost dragons breath.

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    • Spiegel1 wrote: Want my advice?  Never take a low-level mage into Lost Valkygg.  I've probably died in there about forty times on five different characters.  Or more - I haven't bothered keeping track.

      Those two Deathlords at the end - especially the one with the bow - WRECK.  YOUR.  SHIT.

      Ah, I remember clearing out Lost Valkygg -- I was after the ebony bow on one of the Deathlords. Luckily, I was at a reasonable level (low twenties, I think) and had Derkeethus to help me out. Still a pretty intense fight, though.

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    • I'm at a tie between Karstaag and the Ebony Warrior, both were very fun and challenging for my Rouge character.

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    • I was in Beast form once, took out a whole camp of forsworn, got ambushed by a briarheart, died, and listened as he told me to put clothes on because it would be getting cold out at night.

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    • That would have to be Karstaag, I was on my Nord Warrior (Level 49) and my highest skills were Heavy Armor, Block, One-Handed, and Archery. I tried everything I could to take him out hand to hand but he would always kill me in like 3 hits. What I eventually did was summon Duhrneviir and while Karstaag ran around trying to hit him I sat in a corner he couldn't get to and shot him with arrows.

      There is also another group of people. There is a cave somewhere in the Reach, I forgot what it's called but in the final chamber of it there is like 2 Pyromancers an Arch Conjurer a Frost Mage and an Arch Necromancer. I was in Werewolf form (I was close to getting the last perk for it and wanted to finish it off) it took me like 3 hours to kill them all. The path leading into the chamber was a narrow hallway so one fireball and ice storm coming at me at the same time killed me instantly. The only way I was able to do it was to use the sprinting power attack (it one shots them) then run away and hide to regain health. I'd save every time I killed one and got away lol.

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    • Spiegel1 wrote:
      Want my advice?  Never take a low-level mage into Lost Valkygg.  I've probably died in there about forty times on five different characters.  Or more - I haven't bothered keeping track.

      Those two Deathlords at the end - especially the one with the bow - WRECK.  YOUR.  SHIT.


      I was prepared for the Deathlords though. I set-up a dual-casted firemine a few feet behind the door, and had Jenassa and the stray dog wait just far enough behind that they would see the draugr once I hit them with a dual cast firebolt. The first one was easy, then the second more of a problem...my atronach had been taken out(a few times) and so had Jenassa and the stray dog, but since he wasn't following me around I could go behind cover and wait for my magicka to recover. Eventually I wore him down, summoned a frost atronach in front of him, giving Jenassa and stray dog enough time to recover and charge him. I even filled a grand soul gem with him. :)


      But my first time fighting them on that character...I beat them, but then I accidently killed Jenassa when I fus do rahed him. I was so pissed, but I knew I had to reload after that. XD


      I didn't have storm atronachs then, my conjuration was only 46 or so.

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    • 67.82.167.102 wrote:
      I was in Beast form once, took out a whole camp of forsworn, got ambushed by a briarheart, died, and listened as he told me to put clothes on because it would be getting cold out at night.


      Oh man, that cold hearted troll. XD Frost mages own werewolves for some reason...I had one take out my fully perked werewolf character in a cave. lol He came out of nowhere and starting spamming ice storms.

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    • A Draugr Death Overlord at level 12 in Raven Rock Mine. I had spent the last eleven levels scrimping and saving every health potion I found only to use them all trying to fight him. My magic did about as much damage as a tickle and I could only survive two or three of his hits. Pulled it off after about three minutes. Then I saw another one-at which point I just stopped everything, pulled out my bow, and spent the next 15-20 minutes shooting from sneak, retreating around a corner, waiting for the eye to close, and repeating, with the occasional miss. Fantastic thrill.

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    • Inspectormikkel wrote:
      i haven't fought all enemies in the game but atleast on my difficulty (expert) i think one of the hardest enemies was the giant charus under the lighthouse close to winterhold.

      Frostflow? It took my brother 4 hours to complete... he just could not kill the last Chauri, so I took the controller, sprinted into the middle of the cave flaming right and left, pulled out a scimitar and started hacking off bits.

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    • Ebony warrior, bar none...

      I thought I would be more of a match for him. Turns out I was wrong....

      took like 3 tries to finally take him down...

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    • King of Skyrim wrote:
      Ebony warrior, bar none...

      I thought I would be more of a match for him. Turns out I was wrong....

      took like 3 tries to finally take him down...

      Have you ever faced Karstaag? Just out of curiosity; he's quite the tough bastard, that one.

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    • TheDirtyMoosey wrote:
      King of Skyrim wrote:
      Ebony warrior, bar none...

      I thought I would be more of a match for him. Turns out I was wrong....

      took like 3 tries to finally take him down...

      Have you ever faced Karstaag? Just out of curiosity; he's quite the tough bastard, that one.

      Yes but I already knew he was tough, so I was prepaired.

      But the warrior? Dude I didn't know he was that tall (very disconcerting) and I didn't know he could use the Thu'um... Hard bastard that one is...

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    • King of Skyrim wrote:
      TheDirtyMoosey wrote:
      King of Skyrim wrote:
      Ebony warrior, bar none...

      I thought I would be more of a match for him. Turns out I was wrong....

      took like 3 tries to finally take him down...

      Have you ever faced Karstaag? Just out of curiosity; he's quite the tough bastard, that one.
      Yes but I already knew he was tough, so I was prepaired.

      But the warrior? Dude I didn't know he was that tall (very disconcerting) and I didn't know he could use the Thu'um... Hard bastard that one is...

      To my knowledge, he's the only NPC to either surpass or match (I can't remember which one it is) the Altmer in height. Having to go up against someone that knew Unrelenting Force as well as 3 other equally deadly shouts (including Disarm, I believe) was NOT a merry-go-happy walk on a Spring morning, that's for sure.

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    • TheDirtyMoosey wrote:

      To my knowledge, he's the only NPC to either surpass or match (I can't remember which one it is) the Altmer in height.

      Tsun, Warlord Gathrik(though he's a dragur), Garthar, and sometimes a glitched version of Minette Vinius. along with The Ebony Warrior are the only characters whose heights are higher than the standard of their race. and most of them are pretty strong depending on your level.

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    • TheDirtyMoosey wrote:
      King of Skyrim wrote:
      TheDirtyMoosey wrote:
      King of Skyrim wrote:
      Ebony warrior, bar none...

      I thought I would be more of a match for him. Turns out I was wrong....

      took like 3 tries to finally take him down...

      Have you ever faced Karstaag? Just out of curiosity; he's quite the tough bastard, that one.
      Yes but I already knew he was tough, so I was prepaired.

      But the warrior? Dude I didn't know he was that tall (very disconcerting) and I didn't know he could use the Thu'um... Hard bastard that one is...

      To my knowledge, he's the only NPC to either surpass or match (I can't remember which one it is) the Altmer in height. Having to go up against someone that knew Unrelenting Force as well as 3 other equally deadly shouts (including Disarm, I believe) was NOT a merry-go-happy walk on a Spring morning, that's for sure.

      It was the hardest thing I had to do on Skyrim thats for sure.

      I mean for god sakes he disarmed me at least 6 times! (what a noob)

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    • King of Skyrim wrote:
      TheDirtyMoosey wrote:
      King of Skyrim wrote:
      Ebony warrior, bar none...

      I thought I would be more of a match for him. Turns out I was wrong....

      took like 3 tries to finally take him down...

      Have you ever faced Karstaag? Just out of curiosity; he's quite the tough bastard, that one.
      Yes but I already knew he was tough, so I was prepaired.

      But the warrior? Dude I didn't know he was that tall (very disconcerting) and I didn't know he could use the Thu'um... Hard bastard that one is...

      Sounds like a perfect dead thrall. ;)

      Is he a Dunmer? That could make or break the deal.

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    • Aaron0 wrote:
      King of Skyrim wrote:
      TheDirtyMoosey wrote:
      King of Skyrim wrote:
      Ebony warrior, bar none...

      I thought I would be more of a match for him. Turns out I was wrong....

      took like 3 tries to finally take him down...

      Have you ever faced Karstaag? Just out of curiosity; he's quite the tough bastard, that one.
      Yes but I already knew he was tough, so I was prepaired.

      But the warrior? Dude I didn't know he was that tall (very disconcerting) and I didn't know he could use the Thu'um... Hard bastard that one is...

      Sounds like a perfect dead thrall. ;)

      Is he a Dunmer? That could make or break the deal.

      He's a Redguard, also his level is WAY past the thrall cap.

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    • Aaron0 wrote:
      King of Skyrim wrote:
      TheDirtyMoosey wrote:
      King of Skyrim wrote:
      Ebony warrior, bar none...

      I thought I would be more of a match for him. Turns out I was wrong....

      took like 3 tries to finally take him down...

      Have you ever faced Karstaag? Just out of curiosity; he's quite the tough bastard, that one.
      Yes but I already knew he was tough, so I was prepaired.

      But the warrior? Dude I didn't know he was that tall (very disconcerting) and I didn't know he could use the Thu'um... Hard bastard that one is...

      Sounds like a perfect dead thrall. ;)

      Is he a Dunmer? That could make or break the deal.

      The Ebony Warrior is noted as a Redguard.

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    • Darn. What level is he? 81?


      Oh well, I only travel with other Dunmer in this game anyway. Would have been a good thrall for my necromancer character though.

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    • Aaron0 wrote: Darn. What level is he? 81?


      Oh well, I only travel with other Dunmer in this game anyway. Would have been a good thrall for my necromancer character though.

      He's level 80. I think that makes him the highest-leveled NPC in the game.

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    • Sgt. S.S. wrote:

      Aaron0 wrote: Darn. What level is he? 81?


      Oh well, I only travel with other Dunmer in this game anyway. Would have been a good thrall for my necromancer character though.

      He's level 80. I think that makes him the highest-leveled NPC in the game.

      Miraak and Arngeir can both be level 150, making them the highest.

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    • I recently went up against the Ebony Warrior , he is far harder then Karstaag, that reflect blows perk killed me three times.

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    • Man of steak wrote:
      Sgt. S.S. wrote:

      Aaron0 wrote: Darn. What level is he? 81?


      Oh well, I only travel with other Dunmer in this game anyway. Would have been a good thrall for my necromancer character though.

      He's level 80. I think that makes him the highest-leveled NPC in the game.
      Miraak and Arngeir can both be level 150, making them the highest.

      well, Frea and Serana have no level cap, I think a couple others too, so they can technically be whatever level you are, be it 80, 150 or even 99,999

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    • Pink Slim wrote:
      Man of steak wrote:
      Sgt. S.S. wrote:

      Aaron0 wrote: Darn. What level is he? 81?


      Oh well, I only travel with other Dunmer in this game anyway. Would have been a good thrall for my necromancer character though.

      He's level 80. I think that makes him the highest-leveled NPC in the game.
      Miraak and Arngeir can both be level 150, making them the highest.
      well, Frea and Serana have no level cap, I think a couple others too, so they can technically be whatever level you are, be it 80, 150 or even 99,999

      True.

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    • The Keepers, Karstaag, Lurker Vindicators, Falmer Warmongers, and don't even start on Legendary Dragons. *shudder*

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    • Nothing except falling and karstaag

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    • karstaag, harkon. couldnt kill karstaag on legendary, ended up turning it down to master. legendary karstaag was barely scratched by a 430 damage greatsword that possed a 162 chaos damage enchant. he killed me very quickly despite me being lvl 121 and having health points leveling in the thousands. harkon because he made my game crash :(. (also cause vampire lord is badass)

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    • At this point I have to handicap myself to make any enemies challenging.  If the game could provide more enemy NPCs to swarm me, that would be challenging, but they're spead out enough that I can deal with them as they come, and they clearly don't coordinate their attacks.  I think the next gen. AI will do better.

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    • TodKarlson wrote:
      At this point I have to handicap myself to make any enemies challenging.  If the game could provide more enemy NPCs to swarm me, that would be challenging, but they're spead out enough that I can deal with them as they come, and they clearly don't coordinate their attacks.  I think the next gen. AI will do better.

      Exactly.  Most, if not all, of the characters I've made are half roleplay, half handicap.  I usually play on Novice (sometimes Apprentice or even Adept, though I have tested the Legendary difficulty a few times) because I feel that's a little more realistic combat-wise than having this low-level bandit being able to take so many Thunderbolts it's not even funny.

      To balance it out, I only have my characters use a specific faction/type of weapons and armor (i.e. Forsworn, Falmer, Daedric, Ancient Shrouded, whatever suits the backstory I've made for that particular character), and I take very few potions with me.  Even then, they're just standard restoration potions, and my mages and battlemages don't carry any potions whatsoever - so in their case, I have to rely on healing spells instead.

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    • Most powerful enemies:

      10) Forsworn Briarhearts

      9) Draugr Death Overlords

      8) Dremora Valkynaz (Mage)

      7) Arch-Mages (Pyro, Cyro, or Electromancer)

      6) Nightmaster Vampires

      6.5) Harkon

      5) Miraak

      4) General Falx Carius

      3) Tie (Lurker Vindicator and Legendary Dragon)

      2) Ebony Warrior

      1) Karstaag

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    • Personally I think General Falx Carius is easy once you come prepared. The sneak attack daedric arrows....

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    • Ebony Warrior bar none, I was totally unprepaired and all I had was 2 Steel War Axes.

      It wasn't a challenge for him, It was an execution.....

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    • Malkoran was pretty hard. I died 2 times at level twelve - then again i had no healing potions or followers and I had a weakness to frost due to recent alchemy

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    • havent killed him but the ebony warrior IS the hardest thing to kill in skyrim

      if you can kill him you can kill anything in the game

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    • 204.237.2.240 wrote:
      havent killed him but the ebony warrior IS the hardest thing to kill in skyrim

      if you can kill him you can kill anything in the game

      Not really. The ebony warrior is outside so storm call or call dragon can be used. Both can't be used inside.

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    • ebony worrior? who/what is he and where do i find him?

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    • Ebony Warrior there

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    • Ebony warrior,

      After my 12th time I killed him (finally) and put on the theme to Battlefield 3 as my victory music.

      It was awesome!!!!!

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    • J.M 

      kartstaag was easy auriel bow m y follower teldreyn sera and slow time he never killed toughest for me was zalkrios fought him at lv33 he was the first ever person kill me and he did it 5 times and he killed lydia and somehow made my dragonbone sword disappear

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    • When I tried the Ebony Warrior I was a level 80 Witchhunter Argonian, it was on legendary difficulty and I summoned a Wrathman and Dremora Lord, they distracted the Ebony Warrior and tanked the damage (It took him like 5 minutes to kill just one of them and then I would just summon them again.) I also had a Bound Bow created with 100 skill in Conjuration and Archery. I once in a while got a paralysis hit meant some easy shots and major damage from the summons. I also had Ebony flesh and Lightning cloak, meaning I could take damage quite well and slow his health regeneration when I was near. (Which was barely ever thanks to summons.) My goal was to slowly battle our way to the near cliff and use Fus Ro Dah off the cliff. It took like 20 minutes but thanks to my system I was only ever hit once (But even that took over half my health away.) I eventually got to the cliff and I used the shout, this took a good chunk away from his health (About 1/5) as well as the constant damage from summons and the Bound Bow, at this time he had just over 1/2 health and I battled constantly until he was about a quater health left. At this point my summons glitched and wouldn't spawn, so the Ebony Warrior pulled out his bow and shot me half way across Skyrim (I literally flew about a mile) I reloaded and tried another 2 times, doing the same thing but when the summons glitched I always died. At that point I changed the difficulty to master and I did it on my first try within about 5 minutes with little effort.

      (P.S. I used no companion and limited myself to Fus Ro Dah as my only shout, much like he had. I wanted a pure one on one fight, no tricks. Except for summons of course.)

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    • In awnser to the origanal question, I barley survived against a Brierheart with Dual Glass swords and a pet frost troll.

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    • UselessArgonianMage wrote:
      When I tried the Ebony Warrior I was a level 80 Witchhunter Argonian, it was on legendary difficulty and I summoned a Wrathman and Dremora Lord, they distracted the Ebony Warrior and tanked the damage (It took him like 5 minutes to kill just one of them and then I would just summon them again.) I also had a Bound Bow created with 100 skill in Conjuration and Archery. I once in a while got a paralysis hit meant some easy shots and major damage from the summons. I also had Ebony flesh and Lightning cloak, meaning I could take damage quite well and slow his health regeneration when I was near. (Which was barely ever thanks to summons.) My goal was to slowly battle our way to the near cliff and use Fus Ro Dah off the cliff. It took like 20 minutes but thanks to my system I was only ever hit once (But even that took over half my health away.) I eventually got to the cliff and I used the shout, this took a good chunk away from his health (About 1/5) as well as the constant damage from summons and the Bound Bow, at this time he had just over 1/2 health and I battled constantly until he was about a quater health left. At this point my summons glitched and wouldn't spawn, so the Ebony Warrior pulled out his bow and shot me half way across Skyrim (I literally flew about a mile) I reloaded and tried another 2 times, doing the same thing but when the summons glitched I always died. At that point I changed the difficulty to master and I did it on my first try within about 5 minutes with little effort.

      (P.S. I used no companion and limited myself to Fus Ro Dah as my only shout, much like he had. I wanted a pure one on one fight, no tricks. Except for summons of course.)

      You seriously call that a "one on one" fight? Thats like a three on one fight. Try killing him with no companions, no summons, no shouts, no potions. You and your blade vs him.

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    • That's a playstyle,not a decision.

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    • Well, to say the least, it really DOES depend on how you play. Because the opposites are great against each other. Say if you are playing as a mage character, you generally don't have much health or armour but use spells like ebonyflesh. If a melee enemy takes you by surprize or you get cornered by draugar (being plural for draugr), you are easily slain in a matter of seconds, and don't even get me started on foresworn briarhearts... And the same for a warrior class character. A warrior character can easily be decimated by an enemy such as a named or unnamed dragon preist, attacking from a distance with devastaiting fireball or thunderbolt before the melee character can even get close. But in the case of an assassin, no enemy stands in the way, with relevent skills and apparal (dark brotherhood armour). Sneaking up and dealing large amounts of damage while undetected and taking less damage. Although dragons cause a real problem for an assassin that is not trained in archery.

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    • I just came across my first elder dragon. At least, I think it was an elder. It was something fairly powerful, because I'd never seen it before. I remember I was getting all excited for a challenging fight. I think I was level 35-ish....? ANYWAYS.... I use Dragonrend on him, he lands. I attack with my arrows as Aela fights with a dagger (no clue....but she never uses her bow anymore....) and Serana is using her spells. Meeko gets killed, but I don't really care cause I'm gonna get a new Xbox soon so I'm just messing around on this character. And then the dragon decides to turn around and breathe fire on me. I thought I'd be fine, because my arrows were dealing a (not) fair amount of damage, and I was lazy when it cons to dragons, so I wasn't watching his health bar. Or mine. And then I died. Iw as very shocked. And when I reloaded, i couldn't find him again....:(. Wanted to kill him. [sigh]

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    • The one name that apparently never comes up in these long discussions is Alduin, isnt it?... And by Lore and design of game, it should actually be the very first mentioned name... Why the heck did they make the supposed Dragon of Dragons, First born of Akatosh, Immortal Eater of Worlds, the very reason and basis for the existence of TESV, so ordinary that a lvl16 player who's done nothing but upgrade Health and not even done secondary quests to work on other things, can defeat him with nothing but a couple of daggers and a bag full of potions and food?

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    • For me It was zahkriisos (Hope i spelled it right) I was fighting him on lvl 12 and he owned me so after about 20 respawns and 3 crashes i just ignored him and ran out of the dungeon and leaving the black book

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    • Gotta be the Ebony Warrior thanks to his high dmg and life drain and also miraak (damn you and your awesome lightning bolts that i was totally un prepared for!)

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    • Has to be Karstaag for me, had him down to low health but he managed to pull off his stomp attack which sent me flying back down the passage way and into the castle karstagg ruins, after getting back into the courtyard via a load screen his health was full again the cheeky blighter

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    • Miraak, i ran outta potions, then sh*t got mighty exciting after, also Briar-Hearts

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    • legendary dragon and rahgot

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    • Low level character stumbling into a dungeon of mages is a pain for me. Fireballs to the face...

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    • Legendary and ancient dragons were tough even at 50, hard to stay a sneaky archer with those guys, the guy with the cudgel thing, hamlyn was hard to sneak and kill, but I think maloran poses the most signifigant challenge because of the way you have to approach him and his ranged magic attacks coupled with an army of shades, the dude with the cudgel was easy enough to trick and outwit once I stopped trying to confront him directly

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    • i think the toughtest i have ever faced in skyrim is minuer he can use ice spells like ice sornm and can even kill you in one hit if you are not ready its true tested it trust me he is hard

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    • Movarth! Vampire with helpers and thralls! With dawnguard installed he is tough!

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    • The Forgemaster on Legendary difficulty is a really strong opponent. He killed me using the Fire Breath shout, not to mention the freaking flamethrower that doesn'tstop until you're dead and also the massive as hammer that kills you in one shot.

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    • The horrible frost troll at high hrothgar can be very difficult, without the firebolt spell. Guess it was because I was level 5 or so, didn't have marked for death and didn't have my cosmic daedric sword.

      I killed Karstaag and the EW faster than that guy, so yeah, he was the hardest. Now laugh at my comment all you want.

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    • Mine were Forsworn Briarhearts, especially the dual-wielding berserkers. They chip away at my health in a matter of seconds. The archer variants are also incredibly dangerous at higher levels.

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    • well brairhearts are hard.....until you eigther pickpocket thier hearts or use powerful spells against them...or wabbajack them :D

      but with all seriousness....Kargstaad was painful to beat

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    • Yes. Karstaag can also send the Dragonborn and other followers flying away with his powerful 'War Stomp' attack that comes with a blizzard, which is lethal to characters with low health. x_x

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    • or i really hate....draugr that fus ro dah....hate them

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    • I can't decide on a definitive worst enemy, but Draugr Deathlords are definitely one of the most annoying.  I once had a whole room full of them, and they just kept on shouting me down.  It took ages to finally kill them all.

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    • A thief/assassin with the right combo of weapons and enchaments can take down just about anything with a couple of arrows, that being said, there is no sneaking up on miraak... so probably miraak because of the way I play the game

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    • if your counting mods then probably gatekeeper merek from apotheosis lifeless vaults because he hits hard and the arena is small. Otherwise either a draugr death overlord who disarmed me of my only weapon and i couldnt find my weapon or kaarstag with the ragdolls

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    • 98.157.149.62 wrote:
      Mine was Malkoran, I was level 12 and he killed me like seven or eight times.  He wasn't even all that tough himself, it's that he's surrounded by his shades, on an elevated platform where he can just fling ice storms at you, and I had to approach him form a narrow corridor where had a prefect killzone and I couldn't dodge the stupid storms.  Oh, and when I finally but the bastard down HE CAME BACK it was so frustrating.

      I know! I'm level 20-30 or something and I still don't know if I'm ready to face him, so I've just got the beacon in my inventory. Luckily, now I have Fus Ro Dah, full, so I can probably FUS RO DAH his little necromancer butt. I dunno. I just don't think the quest is worth it, I use maces, and Molag Bal's is quite powerful, and to open up the whole sword perk would be quite useless

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    • SleepingIII wrote:
      Forsworn Briar Heart. Especially those use bows. They are deadly to me. More deadly than Dragons.

      you can sneak up behind them and take their briar hearts by poisoning them with well....poison and paralysing poison, and watch them go



      "agh!" and then watch them fall down dead

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    • HighVelocityCactus wrote:
      98.157.149.62 wrote:
      Mine was Malkoran, I was level 12 and he killed me like seven or eight times.  He wasn't even all that tough himself, it's that he's surrounded by his shades, on an elevated platform where he can just fling ice storms at you, and I had to approach him form a narrow corridor where had a prefect killzone and I couldn't dodge the stupid storms.  Oh, and when I finally but the bastard down HE CAME BACK it was so frustrating.
      I know! I'm level 20-30 or something and I still don't know if I'm ready to face him, so I've just got the beacon in my inventory. Luckily, now I have Fus Ro Dah, full, so I can probably FUS RO DAH his little necromancer butt. I dunno. I just don't think the quest is worth it, I use maces, and Molag Bal's is quite powerful, and to open up the whole sword perk would be quite useless

      i use arrows and a very high sneak skill

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    • 92.61.200.134 wrote:
      Movarth! Vampire with helpers and thralls! With dawnguard installed he is tough!

      you can use auriel's bow if you got it in the dawnguard storyline

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    • I think that is that MORA guy with the tentacles in the black book

      demension. 

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    • Or Miraak from the same quest. 

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    • The godammn moding commuity on the xbox one version 

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    • I don’t know about you guys, but the Forgemaster absolutely dunked on me. I was about lvl 25 and was mainly a two handed character. Took me a good few reloads to beat him, even with the Ebony Blade healing me. I had beaten a few centurions before so my expedition were low... I was unpleasantly surprised.

      This was on my first expert character ;-;

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    • PassThePeanutButter wrote:
      I don’t know about you guys, but the Forgemaster absolutely dunked on me. I was about lvl 25 and was mainly a two handed character. Took me a good few reloads to beat him, even with the Ebony Blade healing me. I had beaten a few centurions before so my expedition were low... I was unpleasantly surprised.

      This was on my first expert character ;-;

      The Forgemaster levels with you (from 24~50), so that might be part of the issue.

      It might be helpful to note that it has a 50% Weakness to Frost Damage.

      Otherwise, if you're still having trouble, it would be ideal to acquire the Spellbreaker Shield before fighting the Forgemaster, as it should help against its fire-breath "Shouts".

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    • the ebony warrior guy

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