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  • So, just wondering which horse others think is better. Shadowmere or Arvak.

    I personally like Arvak more, since you can summon him wherever you want, but Shadowmere is stronger in battle.

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    • my game gets very laggy when i ride too fast arvak; shadowmere looks creepy with the red eyes; so i use no horse, i use the ring of hircine, very fast way to travel

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    • I prefer Arvak. I don't want a horse to follow me when I fast travel.

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    • Yeah i agree with SleepingIII, thats why i like my Hearthfire horse so much she just stays safely in the stable back at Riverview.

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    • i personaly agree to sleepinglll, arvak can never die because you summon him. shadow mere can die. in fact he died in my game. i do have one qeustion what specail horse is in hearth fire. i play on the ps3

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    • I would have to say Arvak; Shadowmere has an annoying tendency to disappear on me for days at a time, then mysteriously comes back. 


      Oh for those of you that lost Shadowmere through death, you have to wait 10 in game days, then go to the spot where Shadowmere dies. He will be there, alive again. 

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    • Yeah I like Arvak because he won't fast travel with you and I like Shadowmere for his devilish look. If only I could tell Shadowmere to stay at one of my stables or something...

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    • Horses are more of a pain in the ass than they're worth.

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    • Frozenhero1 wrote:
      Horses are more of a pain in the ass than they're worth.

      very true ... bethesda should add a Drivable Carriage

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    • A bunch of you are incorrect. Arvak dies more frequently than any other horse. He dies every time you use him, in fact. Not counting the original time he died.

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    • He doesn't die per say, just gets sent back to oblivion/soul cairn

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    • yeah he usually disappears shortly after you dismount. 

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    • Which I like, usually when you dismount, you want to stop using the horse (with the exception of want to get a better combat advantage). When you want to use him again, just summon him.

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    • Arvak looks awesome,he only dies when he's in combat or dismount,and for those of you who say shadowmere is good in combat,get a pet!

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    • I prefer using shadowmere as a ride and when it comes to combat he's good as a tank... besides, why not using both for combat? Dismount shadowmere and summon arvak when you get into combat. If you use arvak for a ride, only 1 horse can assist you.

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    • Can you even have both? A friend off mine said you couldn't

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    • For riding you can't use them at the same time, if you have Shadowmere as your horse then summon and ride Arvak Shadowmere will return home (same with any horses).

      I think what 180.245.134.25 meant though was only ride Showmere and summon Arvak only to fight not to ride.

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    • It's so annoying when Frost of Shadowmere after fast travel to some bandit camp immediately starting to fight with 10 enemies, ruining all stealth attacks for me and risking to be shot by my own arrow (happend so many times). Or they can just randomly run away from you to fight some bear/trolls/spiders. Forsing you to defend them. So annoying. Just got Arvak and its really the best horse ever! Only there when you need it!

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    • Yeah, Arvak. He's only there when you need him.

      Shadowmere and other horses are always in the way and getting involved in fights when you don't want em' to.

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    • I just used Shasowmere to upgrade my one handed, two handed, and archery. Then I kill him and use Avarak for the rest of the game.

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    • ^ works perfectly to train soul trap too xd

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    • Arvak, while weaker in a fight, and requiring a spell to be cast to be used, is generally better for getting around.  He's always just a single cast away.  On a conjurer character, I usually snag Twin Souls pretty fast, so that leaves room for 1 Thrall and 1 situational summon, such as Arvak, a Wrathman, a Boneman, a Seeker, etc.

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    • If we really have to choose, Arvak too because it's a summon. You don't loose a summon. I can call him from everywhere and I like the way it looks but I really like them both.

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    • I keep losing Shadowmere for some reason, so I choose Arvak as well.

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    • Ottoman Hold wrote:
      I keep losing Shadowmere for some reason, so I choose Arvak as well.

      Maybe he comes back to his dark pool near Falkreath? Even is he does, he shouldn't except is we take another horse ...

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    • Bilitis wrote: Maybe he comes back to his dark pool near Falkreath? Even is he does, he shouldn't except is we take another horse ...

      I think Shadowmere glitches and randomly dies, because I always check the sanctuary to see, but to no avail. Oh well.

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    • Ottoman Hold wrote:

      Bilitis wrote: Maybe he comes back to his dark pool near Falkreath? Even is he does, he shouldn't except is we take another horse ...

      I think Shadowmere glitches and randomly dies, because I always check the sanctuary to see, but to no avail. Oh well.

      Ow. Because he never died in a combat to me, not even with on a dragon fight.

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    • Arvak. Always available, never in the way, can be used to bypass barred areas, looks really cool. Really hard to kill. DB needs to die anyway...

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    • Looks cool but painful for our backs

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    • Bilitis wrote:
      Looks cool but painful for our backs

      Don't you mean rears? I mean he does have a jagged spine that, without a saddle, would really be...painful...to the rear especially when riding in bumpy terrain.

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    • Shadowmere requires I go through the DB storyline which requires stealth which I suck at, while Arvak just requires you put his skull in the right place, therefore I prefer Arvak

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    • Well we have a similar problem with Arvak : we have to do the Dawnguard questline until we reach the damn Soul Cairn.

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    • Bilitis wrote:
      Well we have a similar problem with Arvak : we have to do the Dawnguard questline until we reach the damn Soul Cairn.

      I find the dawnguard questline much more intresting.

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    • Sure. That's why I get Arvak more frequently than Shadowmere.

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    • When it comes to availability, I'd go for Arvak. And he (she?) is much less stressful than most horses in that they don't get in your way during a melee on foot and you don't have to constantly labor to keep your steed alive.

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    • you know i used to ride avark until i got shadowmere i actully like shadowmere more it's good for my playing style im a sitback relax breton heavy mage shadowmere distracts a good amount of dragons so i can kill them

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    • Terawolf119 wrote:
      ...im a sitback relax breton heavy mage shadowmere distracts a good amount of dragons so i can kill them

      That is actually a viable strategy I sometimes use. I'm more of a tanker so I usually go in face-to-face stee-for-steel but every now and then, I let the horses just duke it out and I support with bows or magic.

      At least for Shadowmere, whenever he dies, he just respawns in the same place after awhile. Most other horses, when they die, you have to buy a new one from the stables for 1,000 gold and I like to spend said gold on other priorities (i.e. skill trainers).

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    • /\ Exactly.

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    • I prefer Arvak because I only use horses to fast travel while overencumbered.  He's only around when I actually need him. 

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    • /\ He dies too easyly

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    • Well you don't need him to fight with you, you just need him to be your way out.

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    • I like more Shadowmere because he has more stalmina, helps you in fighting and doesn't have to be invoked every time.

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    • I've never been a big fan of dragon vs. horses, even with Shadowmere. I guess whatever you prefer depend on you usually do but to me, the best thing is to own both.

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    • SHADOWMERE IS FEMALE UUUUUGH GET IT RIGHT

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    • Also Arvak is better because you can use him to get through Solstheim quicker (unless you can get a horse on Solstheim? I don't think you can)

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    • i always use arvak bc i tend to misplace shadowmere

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    • Shadowmere.


      More out of nostalgia though.

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    • Here are reasons to choose or stay away from each of the four horses. You decide what is a pro and what is a con.

      4. Any bought horse

      Not the fastest.

      Not the strongest in battle.

      Can only be used in Skyrim and gets lost until next fast travel to a stable or open city.

      Death is permanent.

      Overpriced.

      Unknown gender.


      3. Frost

      Cool backstory.

      Nice unique skin.

      Joint fastest horse.

      Not the strongest in Battle.

      Can only be use in Skyrim and gets lost until next fast travel to a stables or open city.

      Unique name.

      Death is permanent.

      Fun quest to get him.

      Male.


      2. Shadowmere

      Nostalgia.

      Cool backstory.

      Fun questline to get him.

      Regenerates fast.

      Large health pool

      Male.

      Joint fastest horse.

      Respawns after death.

      Really cool unique skin.

      Cool unique name.

      Can only be used in Skyrim and gets lost until next fast travel to a stables o open city.


      1. Arvak

      Long quest to get it. Unless you have the mod.

      Resummonable.

      Can be used to glitch through walls.

      Can be used to negate fall damage.

      Can be used on Solstheim and in the Soul Cairn.

      Actually follows you.

      Really cool unique skin.

      Cool unique name from norse mythology.

      Cool backstory.

      If you have the Twin Souls Conjuration perk you can have two of them.

      Cannot die.

      Joint fastest horse.

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    • 86.162.213.4 wrote: Here are reasons to choose or stay away from each of the four horses. You decide what is a pro and what is a con.

      4. Any bought horse

      Not the fastest.

      Not the strongest in battle.

      Can only be used in Skyrim and gets lost until next fast travel to a stable or open city.

      Death is permanent.

      Overpriced.

      Unknown gender.


      3. Frost

      Cool backstory.

      Nice unique skin.

      Joint fastest horse.

      Not the strongest in Battle.

      Can only be use in Skyrim and gets lost until next fast travel to a stables or open city.

      Unique name.

      Death is permanent.

      Fun quest to get him.

      Male.


      2. Shadowmere

      Nostalgia.

      Cool backstory.

      Fun questline to get him.

      Regenerates fast.

      Large health pool

      Male.

      Joint fastest horse.

      Respawns after death.

      Really cool unique skin.

      Cool unique name.

      Can only be used in Skyrim and gets lost until next fast travel to a stables o open city.


      1. Arvak

      Long quest to get it. Unless you have the mod.

      Resummonable.

      Can be used to glitch through walls.

      Can be used to negate fall damage.

      Can be used on Solstheim and in the Soul Cairn.

      Actually follows you.

      Really cool unique skin.

      Cool unique name from norse mythology.

      Cool backstory.

      If you have the Twin Souls Conjuration perk you can have two of them.

      Cannot die.

      Joint fastest horse.

      why does the gender of the horses matter?

      also, shadowmere's gender is ambiguous. astrid refers to it as male, but lucien lachance referred to it as female in oblivion, and a mere is a female horse.

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    • I think you meant that a MARE is a female horse

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    • I personally think that shadowmere is the best. He'll/she'll run up to  enemies there for distracting them which allows me to sneak attack! Meanwhile Arvak you have to summon him which can take a minute. Also Arvak has like 200 health and does little to none damage while shadowmere has about 1000 health and can do at least 10 damage. So yeah I think shadowmere is way better.

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    • As an assassin type character, I find arvak more useful to quickly get to a cave or dungeon then despawn him and go in on foot with a crossbow. It's a useful tactic but you'll have to plan it as you can't attack from the back of arvak

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    • I've never had shadowmere die on me in the switch or ps3

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    • 99.115.80.245 wrote:
      i personaly agree to sleepinglll, arvak can never die because you summon him. shadow mere can die. in fact he died in my game. i do have one qeustion what specail horse is in hearth fire. i play on the ps3

      shadowmere respawns

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    • Horses are still confusing for me.  I've bought so many by now but I'm not sure where to find them.  I'm pretty sure that two died, but one of these respawned at the Whiterun stable, where I originally bought it.  However, if I ride it, it returns to the stable as soon as dismounted.  Now, am I correct that if you dismount any bought horse and ride another, the first horse will return to where it was purchased (but still remain your property)?  I assumed earlier that it would remain where you left it, but apparently not, unless a horse bought through a homestead steward behaves differently from one from a city stable.

      What about Frost?  I rode him to the Riften stables, then eventually fast traveled to Whiterun, and Frost appeared at the Whiterun stable, which is what I wanted.  I hope he will stay there until I want to use him again, and not go back to Black-Briar Lodge.  Louis Letrush (the guy I had to either double-cross or kill to acquire Frost) is standing next to him.  Will this be a problem?  (Man, those Riften guys are a jealous lot.  Now I have two getting underfoot: first Aerin in Lakeview with my wife Mjoll, and now Letrush still hankering after Frost. )

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    • A FANDOM user writes:

      4. Any bought horse

      ..gets lost until next fast travel to a stable or open city.

      No, you can fast travel anywhere and the horse should be there when you arrive.  

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    • He respawns at the place u first got him.
      Maybe he comes back to his dark pool near Falkreath? Even is he does, he shouldn't except is we take another horse ...
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    • combat=shadowmere in general=None get ring than Wolf my way and BACK

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    • Just fast travel, smh

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    • Twinkbunsthe7th wrote: Just fast travel, smh

      Unimmersive

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    • Still, effective

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    • Above, I wrote:

      > you can fast travel anywhere and the horse should be there when you arrive.  

      This failed once.  I was overburdened in the mountains between Markarth and Dragon Bridge, took a carry-weight potion, and fast traveled to Dragon Bridge, hoping my horse would be there.  It wasn't.  But when I fast-traveled later, it appeared.  It might be that the influence of a carry-weight potion interferes with calling the horse. 

      A horse might be overpriced near the beginning of the game, but once your speech, barter, smithing, and enchanting skills are well developed, the sale of a single well improved and enchanted article will pay for a horse easily.  I think the key is to use a horse almost solely for fast traveling home with a lot of loot.  If you ride it around very much, especially in territory you haven't visited for awhile, you both become so vulnerable to attack that the horse is a liability.

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