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  • i've completed the theives quest and there for delven mallery is dead how do i find out her name now ( i now her name , 80% sure, she the sivdi girl )

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    • She's not Svidi. Her name is _____ Mallory.

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    • (SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER IN BIGGA LETTERS)

      Svidi is the gal in the inn of Ivarstead.Saphire's the daughter of Glover Mallory, who is the brother of Delvin Mallory.

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    • thank you so much for helping me

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    • i really want to know is sapphire real name?

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    • It isn't revealed. It's Something Mallory, really. Call her "Something" next time you see her.

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    • 72.26.16.244 wrote:
      i really want to know is sapphire real name?

      The developers didn't give her any name except Sapphire. See her wiki page.

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    • Maybe her name is Ruby or something, just to confuse everyone. Really though, Bethesda got lazy with the Thieves Guild NPCs, at least you can learn about Sapphire's background, even that can't be said for Rune.

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    • I think her name is Gertrude.

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    • That should have been a side quest for anyone who completed the TG questline and restored it to glory.

      They could *at least* have made a misc. quest to hunt for clues about Rune's past like they did for Brand-Shei.

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    • Maybe they tried to make quests for Rune and Sapphire, but ran out of time or the quest got so bugged that they had to remove it (like the hunt for the apprentices at the college).

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    • Dat Necromancy...

      Although I doubt it was ________ Mallory.

      This is cause she didn't know Glover was her dad till you give her the letter, and she says her parents died, so she could have took another surname.

      Pretty sure her mum's a nord though (what gave this away????)

      Although, if she had a legit name, It'd be something along (insert french chick name) Mallory.

      In fact, is could have been Sapphire to start with, lol, just that Beth is screwing about with us, as usual

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    • UselessArgonianMage wrote:
      Maybe her name is Ruby or something, just to confuse everyone. Really though, Bethesda got lazy with the Thieves Guild NPCs, atleast you can learn about Sapphires background, even that can't be said for Rune.

      Reminds me of Knight Captain Dusk in Fallout 3, when you can say "Dusk? Let me guess, your real name is Dawn, isn't it? Or is it Twilight?"

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    • If you read Golver's letter, it is said Sapphire as her real name. So there he mystery is solved.

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    • Sapphire Mallory, then.  She may tell you her name isn't Sapphire just to throw you off her identity.  They say there is no honor among thieves

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    • I believe Glover refers to her as Sapphire to help keep her name a secret from anyone reading it who isn't supposed to. Like the Dragonborn. He knew she had an alias so he refers to her as Sapphire. As to her identity see the book, Fall from Glory. A book about someone who is in the Thieves Guild but is really only trying to find out why they're in such a rut. The book is by Nithilis Lidari. I believe that is Sapphire's real name or another alias. You may be thinking, "That could be anyone!" But considering the locations of the book in Skyrim, there's 3 in the Arcanaeum, 1 in Belethor's shop, and 1 under Sapphire's bed in the Ragged Flagon.

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    • That's far from being a Nordic name, Ethan. Also, Glover could have just forgot about her real name and refers to her as Sapphire.

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    • Sky Above,Voice Within wrote:
      That's far from being a Nordic name, Ethan. Also, Glover could have just forgot about her real name and refers to her as Sapphire.

      I forget my daughter's name all the time.

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    • Glover refers to her as Sapphire because he doesn't know her real name.  In his letter he explains that he left Sapphire's mother before she was born and only knows her because she resembles her mother.  Therefore, even he doesn't know her real name.

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    • Pretty sure her real name is sapphire...

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    • Kidwhix! wrote:
      Pretty sure her real name is sapphire...

      It isn't. 

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    • She is named Sapphire because she carries two flawless sapphires and gives the LDB and exquisite sapphire, she obviously chose or was given that as a nickname, that is likely the name she gave herself after fleeing her familys pig farm, she had no idea she was related to Delvin or Glover so Mallory would also not be her last name, she seems to be a nord (nord mother with breton father) so she wouldve had a nord nam (since she lived with her parents or at least her mother and someone she wouldve thought was her father) unless her adoptive/step father wasnt a nord.since there arent any pig farms in Skyrim that we know of we have no clue who she actually is the only ones who would know would be Sapphire and partially Glover.

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    • Sky Above,Voice Within wrote:
      That's far from being a Nordic name, Ethan. Also, Glover could have just forgot about her real name and refers to her as Sapphire.

      cause father's totally forget their kids names... so he either was using sapphire as cover, like mentioned above, or actually is sapphire, or something else entirely

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    • This is not a regular father, you see, this is a thief, a liar, and someone who abandoned her daughter for most of her life. I say it's totally possible that he forgot her name and was told by Delvin about the name she prefers using.

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    • Sky Above,Voice Within wrote:
      This is not a regular father, you see, this is a thief, a liar, and someone who abandoned her daughter for most of her life. I say it's totally possible that he forgot her name and was told by Delvin about the name she prefers using.

      This. 

      He left when she was young. He didn't really care about her then. And now because she uses a different name that is what he calls her.

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    • he probably wasnt aware of her original name and then when shejoined theguild he found out her name was sapphire just before he ran from the guild

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    • Sky Above,Voice Within wrote:
      That's far from being a Nordic name, Ethan. Also, Glover could have just forgot about her real name and refers to her as Sapphire.

      Well not everyone has a name fitting to their race. It all depends on where you grew up, adoption, how cultural the parents were. Maybe Glover didn't originally plan to leave his daughter, but was going to raise her a thief like him. So he gave her a name that isn't anything like a normal Nord name. That way, to most it'd be really hard to trace such a name to her. An example of how this happens is Brand-Shei. He is a Dark Elf but was raised Argonian. Therefore he has an Argonian name. Or like Krow Dawnstar said it may just be a pen name. I believe my theory has some possibility to it, even if a small chance.

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    • She also said her parents were killed. We know this is not true because Glover Mallory is her father. I therefore suggest her "parents" were her foster parents. I don't know what race a name like Nithilis Lidari belongs to for certain, but it sounds like a Dark Elf name. Therefore I suggest her foster parents are Dark Elf.

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    • After some research I change my theory to Breton foster parents. I think it might be a Breton name, and the pig farm she lived on as far as I could tell would be in High Rock, the only place known to have pigs. High Rock being where Bretons hail from.

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    • I think she actually is a sapphire pretending to be a human, and Glover just mined her one day and isn't actually her father.

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    • 24.56.242.42 wrote:
      I think she actually is a sapphire pretending to be a human, and Glover just mined her one day and isn't actually her father.

      This is actually the most likely answer. 

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    • Blitzbear93 wrote:
      she seems to be a nord (nord mother with breton father) so she wouldve had a nord nam 

      And as Ethan said "After some research I change my theory to Breton foster parents. I think it might be a Breton name, and the pig farm she lived on as far as I could tell would be in High Rock, the only place known to have pigs. High Rock being where Bretons hail from."

      Her father is Breton, Nithilis Lidari is a Breton name. Nithilis Lidari joined the Thieves Guild and is still in the guild because the second book she promised isn't out yet, so she isn't finished her research. The only member of the Guild with the book by Lidari under their bed is Sapphire. I think Nithilis Lidari, while not the name Glover gave her (not Mallory) could easily be the name she calls herself since she didn't even know her father was alive, so it is unlikely she ever knew him.

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    • While "Sapphire" sounds a made up name, Glover in DB refers her as "Sapphire" so her actual name could be Sapphire. Also a fun fact is that Sapphire says that her parents died in a bandit raid, but by that time, Glover had already left for Riften, implying that she was raised by someone else pretending to be her "father" or her mother got maried with someone else. Finally Glover is breton while she is nord, so her mother was nord ( no other explanation).

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    • Goldflame33 wrote: I think her name is Gertrude.

      That explains why she doesn't wanna say her real name

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    • 5.54.137.92 wrote:
      While "Sapphire" sounds a made up name, Glover in DB refers her as "Sapphire" so her actual name could be Sapphire. Also a fun fact is that Sapphire says that her parents died in a bandit raid, but by that time, Glover had already left for Riften, implying that she was raised by someone else pretending to be her "father" or her mother got maried with someone else. Finally Glover is breton while she is nord, so her mother was nord ( no other explanation).

      Sapphire indeed sounds totally made up, like a call girl's name in a movie (I'm not trying to insult anyone, it's the better comparison I can think of) But if I follow this theory she was named because her true and/or adoptive father was Breton. Bretons' names are suppose to be french, right? Sapphire in french is actually Saphir, so what I'm trying to say is that I think the name is made up by herself.

      Glover knew she was in contact with the TG, that's probably why he's calling her by her current name. "Whatever you do, don't blame Delvin for any of this. He didn't know." Delvin must have been the one informing Glover about Sapphire's location. Or Brynjolf :"Years later, when you were recruited by Brynjolf I couldn't believe my eyes." 

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    • Glover left Riften because Saphire joined the theives guild and couldn't face her.  

      Delvin "Didn't know," as in, doesn't know Glover was Saphire's biological father.  

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    • sounds like a stripper name to me

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