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  • So after you complete the Main Questline for the Brotherhood with Cicero killed by you, who will tend to the Night Mother's body when there is no Keeper? Does she get to replace Cicero as the new Keeper or does she become a Silencer for Nazir? I think it's possible for Babette to become a Silencer if Cicero is spared, since Nazir currently acts like a Speaker at the end of the main DB questline.

    Any thoughts?

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    • The Skyrim Dark Brotherhood acts differently to most other provincial DBs, as this is the case, they don't use the same ranking system as other DBs and don't even have enough members to complete the Black Hand. Though, if they go by the other system:

      1. Why did you kill Cicero!? Anyway, Babette will probably not be the next Keeper, she is a Vampire and needs to "hunt" often so she won't have the time. With the Night Mother's place at the Dawnstar Sanctuary it seems they go by a rotation system since she's out in the open anyway. But this is almost certainly only the case if you kill Cicero. 

      2. It is likely she is the Silencer for Nazir, there's nobody else for the role (If there even is such a role in Skyrim) whether Cicero is dead or not. Silencers need to be quiet, loyal and somewhat sane.

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    • UselessArgonianMage wrote:
      The Skyrim Dark Brotherhood acts differently to most other provincial DBs, as this is the case, they don't use the same ranking system as other DBs and don't even have enough members to complete the Black Hand. Though, if they go by the other system:

      1. Why did you kill Cicero!? Anyway, Babette will probably not be the next Keeper, she is a Vampire and needs to "hunt" often so she won't have the time. With the Night Mother's place at the Dawnstar Sanctuary it seems they go by a rotation system since she's out in the open anyway. But this is almost certainly only the case if you kill Cicero. 

      2. It is likely she is the Silencer for Nazir, there's nobody else for the role (If there even is such a role in Skyrim) whether Cicero is dead or not. Silencers need to be quiet, loyal and somewhat sane.

      Don't worry. I didn't kill Cicero. He may be nutters, but he makes such a good tank & pack mule. lol pack mule.. He even helped me kill the entire Black-Briar family.

      (maniacal laughter & spins head in 360) Serves them right.

      P.S. About killing the Black-Briars, i removed their essentiality after i completed all TG quests.

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    • I see it this way: in my game im the Listener. Nazir, Babette, and Cicero are my Speakers. Not complete but i dont got much to work with.

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    • I'd say the Dragonborn probably acts as all the necessary roles of the Brotherhood after Astrid's betrayal, because one wouldn't see the Listener, the one who recieves commands from the Night Mother, putting themself in danger by completing contracts, but the Dragonborn does this. Regardless of this, it's down to imagination, if you want to say your character pulls every string withing the Brotherhood then it could very well be like that, or if you want them just in control of Nazir, Babette and possibly Cicero, it's all down to choice.

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    • nazim is your silincer the girl seems innocent, i know its her thing, but she eats her contracts for sanitation nazim kills for contracts

      there are other sauntarys just not in skyrim or cirridil, sorry for spelling

      black marsh, morrowind, elswere, highrock they have the dark brotherhood in them each one has a speaker, astrid as the leader was the speaker and the wolf being her husband would proablably be her silincer but thats out of the question, why dont you diside who your silincer is, and rember, like good old specy says when hes alive in oblivion the whole brotherhood is not in one place,

      but babbet is over 300 years and was acording to diologe regarding the listiner in the brotherhood 300 years ago so oblivion from its intro to skyrims intro being exsactly 282 years on the same date and time mount 1 day 1 noon

      why do we not see the 10 year old vampire in cyridil,

      it would be logical to say she was not a assassin in cyridil durring the oblivion crissis becouse of course you wiped out the brotherhood and she was alive then too, 2 years before at least so she should be dead agian. Going off topic but i dont want a zombie vampire child canibal old lady to be my personal kill this guy for me.

      your silincer should be the person you take with you.

      i rambaling

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    • "why do we not see the 10 year old vampire in cyridil,"

      Uuuh, Maybe because she was in skyrim, not cyrodil?

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    • You still get the plain low rank assassins after the db quest, maybe they do it for cicero,  or maybe the night mom is okay with out a keeper

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    • No Dragonborn = no big payment by Motierre = no money to make a new home and hire.

      And Cicero is not sane enough to be a leader or for people to want him as a leader. (I remember Nazir saying he hates jesters)

      We are not even sure what happen to the Night Mother corpse when you kill Cicero (I wish I could burn it). I think Nazir and and Babette are still assassins somewhere in Skyrim, but they don't care about the Night Mother. In the questline they didn't until you became the Listener.

      Why do you people imagine them as Keeper or Listener? They show no devotion, I don't remember if they believe you when you tell Astrid your the Listener and there is no proof they tried to recover the coffin. Also the Night Mother was waiting for you, not random people to do the job. 

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