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  • For those who dont know, in every single main Elder Scrolls game there is a specific hero which has to save the world in some fasion.

    But in this book there is a reference to a cirtain Dro'Jizad of Elsweyr and what it says is: 

    One of the few magical arts the Psijics of Arteum have kept to themselves, away from the common spells and schools of the Mages Guild, is the gift of divination. Despite this, or perhaps because of it, omens and prophesies abound in Tamriel, some of substance, others of pure folly, and still others so ambiguous as to be unverifiable. There are still other prophesies kept secret, from the prophesies of Dro'Jizad in Elsweyr and the Nerevarine in Morrowind, to the Elder Scrolls themselves.

    This might mean that the Hero of an Elder Scolls game in Elsweyr may be called the Dro'jizad, whatever that may mean...

    Thoughts anyone?

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    • The player character in Daggarfall was the Hero of Daggerfall.

      --flies away--

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    • Draevan13 wrote:
      The player character in Daggarfall was the Hero of Daggerfall.

      --flies away--

      Thanks

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    • What strikes me as a bit odd is what seems to be a grammatical error in the last statement.

      "There are still other prophesies kept secret, from the prophesies of Dro'Jizad in Elsweyr and the Nerevarine in Morrowind, to the Elder Scrolls themselves."

      It should be written as "'There are still other prophesies kept secret, from the prophesies of Dro'Jizad in Elsweyr , the Nerevarine in Morrowind, and the Elder Scrolls themselves."

      If that is indeed not a grammatical error, than it sounds as if the prophecy of the Nerevarine and Dro'Jizad are both parts of a single prophecy.

      Great lore find though, I had not heard of that one yet.

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    • I think the next game may take place in Elsweyr. There have been many small hints that could of been passed of as coincedence, but there are just SO many. For instance that there are tons of Khajiit caravans in Skyrim, which is strange, and how you can ask many of the traders to describe their homeland and such. My favorite possible hint was in the annoncement that they were not making anymore Skyrim DLC, and at the end it said something to the effect of "We hope you continue to persue your gaming intrests here, and elsewhere."

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    • Wow, I can't believe I didn't pick up on that bomb they dropped. I know you can translate the Argonian language, but can you do that with the Khajiit? If so, can we translate what Dro'Jizad means?

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    • Well, Dro, as a prefix, means grandmother or grandfather. So maybe it means something like the forefather of our people, or something.

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    • I was hoping the next TES game would be set in Elsweyr or Valenwood.

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    • Problem is, Elweyr is WAY too small of a province.

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    • They could make it big enough, or they could make it take place in Valenwood, Elsweyr, Blackmarsh, and the Summerset Isles. Maybe even with the abillity to go to Stros M'kai. (In the base game, or as DLC.)

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    • Or it could take place in both Valenwood and Elsweyr. I'm pretty sure the next gen consoles could handle both of them. And maybe Orsinium for another DLC. But it can't take place in Alinor (the Summerset Isles) or Black Marsh because:

      1. Black Marsh is uninhabitable for evry race except Argonians and ,possibly, Bosmer.

      2. The Altmer in Alinor do not allow any non-altmer in their province.

      It will most likely be either Valenwood, Elsweyr, or both.

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    • 24.44.141.89 wrote:

      2. The Altmer in Alinor do not allow any non-altmer in their province.

      I fail to believe that.

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    • 24.44.141.89 wrote:
      Or it could take place in both Valenwood and Elsweyr. I'm pretty sure the next gen consoles could handle both of them. And maybe Orsinium for another DLC. But it can't take place in Alinor (the Summerset Isles) or Black Marsh because:

      2. The Altmer in Alinor do not allow any non-altmer in their province.


      You could have to sneak into Alinor or be an Altmer and then destroy all the Thalmor.

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    • @Goldflame, look it up.

      @DarkCompanion'sGuild, how is ONE person going to destroy an entire army? If you sneak into Alinor, you can never roam freely (unless you're an Altmer) as if someone catches you, they'll tell the guards and then they will kill you.

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    • Youre working for the Empire, you sneak into the center of the city turn invisible and knock over a stand causing commotion, suddenly hundreds of soldiers appear from the outskirts of the city and charge in and boats that seemed to just be going past start firing at Alinor.

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    • And if you look at the wiki page it says Alinor has recently allowed human traders to enter its port.

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    • That would make for a terrible game, no offence. If you kill the Thalmor in the first quest then that would make a bad plot. The Dominion shouldn't be defeated until the end. Besides, do you honestly think the Dominion would get defeated so easily in one day? The Altmer have a history of defending their island constantly, I think it would be unwise to assume they would lose to other races easily. They were constantly raided by the Maomer of Pyandonea, and the Sloads of Thras whom they constantly repulsed off their island. They were succesfully keeping Tiber Septim's armies at bay until he gained control of Numidium. They also successfully stood their ground against the Daedra invading the Summerset Isles during the Oblivion Crisis. Then in the 4th era they almost obliterated the majority of Tamriels standing armies. It's not like they're going to lose in one battle. And I'm pretty sure the Empire is not powerful enough to defeat the Dominion. They have lost a lot of provinces and they were greatly weakened after the great war.

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    • First off I never that would be the first quest and that it would take a day. Secondly it was something I wrote in 30 seconds, of course the won't defeat the Dominion like that, the Empire would unite with Skyrim and High Rock by promising them money, they would unite with whats left of Morrowind by promising a safe place to live, they would unite with Hammerfell with their mutual hatred of the Dominion. They would start rebel uprisings in Elsweyr and Valenwood kicking the Do inion out of there and unite with Argonia by promising not to destroy them with their now massive army. Once they have backed the Dominion into a corner then they destroy them and reunite Tamriel under the Empire. 

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    • That would mean that you could only enter the Summerset Isles after you're finished with the game. Which I don't think would be good for a game. Also, the Empire has already angered many provinces. It is more likely that the Stormcloaks would build the huge army, not the Empire. And I really hope you're joking when you said "not to destroy Argonia with their massive army". Because you do realize that no matter how powerful of an army the Empire has, they can never possibly conquer or defeat Argonia, right? Black Marsh is the most powerful province in all of Tamriel, no doubt. It would be unwise to assume that they would be afraid by what the Empire would suprise them with. If all the provinces were to go to war, then Black Marsh would win, hands down. The only province that could survive a war with Black Marsh would be High Rock, but only because Argonia would have to go through a lot of provinces to get there.

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    • I was saying that if Argonia tried to attack the Empire at that stage they would be destroyed 7 provinces vs 1, even if you are an Argonian fanboy you can't say that all 7 provinces could be defeated by Argonia.

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    • When did I say Argonia could defeat them? I'm just saying that the Empire could not possibly invade Argonia nor conquer them. It is literally impossible. They would start dropping like flies one they got somewhat far into the land. Saying that Argonia would be afraid of them is ridiculous. Also, I don't favor the Argonians haha. Never have since I started getting into TES.

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    • I dislike the Argonians, and I did some research and it appears Argonia would stay neutral in a war, but still those 7 other provinces could defeat the Dominion.

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    • I don't think Elsweyr or Valenwood would help those provinces. They would most likely help the Dominion. As I said, it would most likely be the Stormcloaks that will unite the provinces. If the Stormcloaks win then Cyrodill would be out aswell. That makes 4 provinces (Hammerfell, Skyrim, High Rock, Morrowind) that are united. However, High Rock could join with Hammerfell and the Orcs to rebuild the Daggerfall Covenant. So that only makes two (Morrowind and Skyrim). But Morrowind is severely weakened as they were invaded by the Argonians and because of the Red Year. So I'm not sure how they would win.

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    • So exactly how would an isolationist movement unite anybody outside themselves?

      Just asking.

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    • Ok, we have gone very far off topic. So let's bring this back to topic. Dro'jizad may be the forefather of the khajiiti people, or a reincarnation of that person, just like Nerevarine is the reincarnation of Nerevar, as someone before me has already speculated. So a future game may have this hero, most probably set in the khajiiti homeland.

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    • Also, to the best of my knowledge, the only Hero's to have prophecies are the Nerevarine, the Dragonborn and possibly Dro'jizad, so as a side note, maybe there will be an elder scrolls that incorporates all of these divined people to save the entire world...possibly

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    • Well, the HoK became Sheogorath so. But, as I said, Elsweyr is way too small of a province.

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    • 24.44.141.89 wrote:

      1. Black Marsh is uninhabitable for evry race except Argonians and ,possibly, Bosmer.

      2. The Altmer in Alinor do not allow any non-altmer in their province.

      1. No it isn't. Where do you get your information?

      2. You really think somewhere like the Summerset Isles doesn't import menial workers?

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    • I think it'd be cool if the next game they made the main questline take place in Elsweyr andOrsinium, then DLCs for Valenwood, Alinor, and Black Marsh.

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    • Any of those places would be REALLY REALLY big for a DLC.

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    • Ark of Death wrote:
      What strikes me as a bit odd is what seems to be a grammatical error in the last statement.

      "There are still other prophesies kept secret, from the prophesies of Dro'Jizad in Elsweyr and the Nerevarine in Morrowind, to the Elder Scrolls themselves."

      It should be written as "'There are still other prophesies kept secret, from the prophesies of Dro'Jizad in Elsweyr , the Nerevarine in Morrowind, and the Elder Scrolls themselves."

      If that is indeed not a grammatical error, than it sounds as if the prophecy of the Nerevarine and Dro'Jizad are both parts of a single prophecy.

      Great lore find though, I had not heard of that one yet.

      Not an error at all, in fact it makes perfect sense. Think of the meaning of the sentence and change it a little, think of a shop. "We sell everything from pots and pans to computers and gadgets". Pretty straight forward.

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    • I agree that this person will be a hero of a future T E S game set in elsewhere, and it is not 2 small of a province. The entire 3rd game took place on the island of warden fell, which is much smaller than elsewhere. -The Z Boss

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    • Flamedude22 wrote:

      24.44.141.89 wrote:

      1. Black Marsh is uninhabitable for evry race except Argonians and ,possibly, Bosmer.

      2. The Altmer in Alinor do not allow any non-altmer in their province.

      1. No it isn't. Where do you get your information?

      2. You really think somewhere like the Summerset Isles doesn't import menial workers?

      1. Yes, it is. Maybe you should do some research on Black Marsh. Only the borderlands are habitable. No one dares go into the Murkwood. It is plagued with diseases.

      2. Mistake, guys. Stop replying to me about this.

      P.S. 99.127, it's spelled "Elsweyr" not "Elsewhere".

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    • 24.44.231.128 wrote:

      Flamedude22 wrote: 1. No it isn't. Where do you get your information?

      2. You really think somewhere like the Summerset Isles doesn't import menial workers?

      1. Yes, it is. Maybe you should do some research on Black Marsh. Only the borderlands are habitable. No one dares go into the Murkwood. It is plagued with diseases.

      2. Mistake, guys. Stop replying to me about this.

      1. I'd love for you to give me a single source.

      2. Fair enough.

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    • "and they retreated to Helstrom, into the impenetrable center of the Province where the men and mer wouldn't follow" - Pocket Guide to the Empire, Third Edition: Black Marsh.

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    • 24.44.231.128 wrote:

      Flamedude22 wrote:

      24.44.141.89 wrote:

      1. Black Marsh is uninhabitable for evry race except Argonians and ,possibly, Bosmer.

      2. The Altmer in Alinor do not allow any non-altmer in their province.

      1. No it isn't. Where do you get your information?

      2. You really think somewhere like the Summerset Isles doesn't import menial workers?

      1. Yes, it is. Maybe you should do some research on Black Marsh. Only the borderlands are habitable. No one dares go into the Murkwood. It is plagued with diseases.

      2. Mistake, guys. Stop replying to me about this.

      P.S. 99.127, it's spelled "Elsweyr" not "Elsewhere".

      I know wat it is called, but I only recently figured out hiw 2 turn iff ghe spellcheck for my toychpad, and pleAse call me Z Boss, I put the tag there for a reason.

      -The Z Boss

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    • Also, black marsh isn't uninhabitable completely, only the murkwood. I know for a fact that a city called bkackrose is w7thin a habitable biundary.

      -The Z Boss

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    • I meant blackrose. Sorry for a triple post.

      -The Z Boss

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    • Alright then. I'll make one more post that I forgot to put yesterday. Wolfish tail, you could have made a mistake making this thread, cuz if bethesda catches on to this, they might decide not to make an elder scrolls game that people would know too much about and spoil our fun. And about an earlier post, anyone can live in any area of Black Marsh, so long as they have an encganted item that gives disease immunity, I mean the eternak champion was abke to go thru the entire pronince, so was tye soulless one.

      -The Z Boss

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    • 99.127.46.120 wrote:
      Alright then. I'll make one more post that I forgot to put yesterday. Wolfish tail, you could have made a mistake making this thread, cuz if bethesda catches on to this, they might decide not to make an elder scrolls game that people would know too much about and spoil our fun. 

      -The Z Boss

      I'm pretty sure Bethesda wouldn't patrol this forum for evidence of people leaking stuff about TES VI and then completely cancel their game. The worse that would happen is that this thread would be deleted.

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    • 99.127.46.120 wrote: Also, black marsh isn't uninhabitable completely, only the murkwood. I know for a fact that a city called bkackrose is w7thin a habitable biundary.

      -The Z Boss

      Which is exactly what I just said.

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    • What is the book?

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    • did you read the post afterward? I literrally just said all of black marsh is habitable for anyone who is a vampire, lycanthropic, wearer of magic item of disease immunity. Also nerevarine.

      -The Z Boss

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    • SweetRollBorn wrote: What is the book?

      The Hope of the Redoran

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    • Noticd something. The line says" from Dro'Jizad in Elsweyr to the Nerevarine in morrowind, to the elder scrolls themselves." Notice how Nerevarine, ad a title, had a the b4 it. Not Dro' Jizad. This could mean that Dro'Jizad is a name, hinting at a future game of TESA, were they create a cgaracter for you, and you set off on an adventure. I could b rong, but I have seen many khajjit with a dro at the beggining. Just a thought.

      -The Z Boss

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    • My bet is after helping the skooma dealers in Corinthe, you will receive the title of Dro'Jizad in TESVI.

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    • Ark of Death wrote:
      What strikes me as a bit odd is what seems to be a grammatical error in the last statement.

      "There are still other prophesies kept secret, from the prophesies of Dro'Jizad in Elsweyr and the Nerevarine in Morrowind, to the Elder Scrolls themselves."

      It should be written as "'There are still other prophesies kept secret, from the prophesies of Dro'Jizad in Elsweyr , the Nerevarine in Morrowind, and the Elder Scrolls themselves."

      If that is indeed not a grammatical error, than it sounds as if the prophecy of the Nerevarine and Dro'Jizad are both parts of a single prophecy.

      Great lore find though, I had not heard of that one yet.

      It's speaking about different types of prophesies.

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    • 24.44.141.89 wrote:
      I don't think Elsweyr or Valenwood would help those provinces. They would most likely help the Dominion. As I said, it would most likely be the Stormcloaks that will unite the provinces. If the Stormcloaks win then Cyrodill would be out aswell. That makes 4 provinces (Hammerfell, Skyrim, High Rock, Morrowind) that are united. However, High Rock could join with Hammerfell and the Orcs to rebuild the Daggerfall Covenant. So that only makes two (Morrowind and Skyrim). But Morrowind is severely weakened as they were invaded by the Argonians and because of the Red Year. So I'm not sure how they would win.

      may i remind you that the stormcloaks are really racist (would never ally with the dark elves)

      and also the empire has more power than them (the empire is not weak enough to lose to the "sons of skyrim" seriously if you have read the thalmor dossier:ulfric stormcloak book you would have known that the thalmor aid him indirectly (give him weapons etc)

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    • Who said the orcs, redguards, and bretons forming the daggerfall covenant was a bad thing? It's actually better that way.

      -The Z Boss

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    • Flamedude22 wrote:
      Well, Dro, as a prefix, means grandmother or grandfather. So maybe it means something like the forefather of our people, or something.

      Grandmother....grandfather....elder? 

      Mentioned in a book that mentions Elswhere

      either way Elder *Blank* Elswhere

      Elder...scrolls elswhere?

      just thinking :3


      If we could find out what Jizad means

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    • Jizad...Jihad

      just a blind asociation, but one that would lead to a most pleasing amount of gratuitous mayhem.

      As "Grandfather of War", the PC might even be the furry uncle of a certain Kratos...

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    • I did some research, it turns out the habi4able city, blackrose, is in the murkwood. It turns out that bkack marsh wasn't habitable 2 others cuz of the knehaten flu, which ended after 2e. So flame is right.

      -The Z Boss

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    • Quick question for amperial. The hell is an isolationist movement?

      -The Z Boss

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    • A movement to get the government to stay out of international(other nations) problems.

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    • K, thanks. Stormcloaks are not an isolationist movement. Trying 2 get a givernment 2 stay ou of international affairs is completely different from libeeating a natiin. Plus they try 2 get bretons 2 help the army.

      -The Z Boss

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    • I am not the only 1 who niticed that the book was around in morriwind? I think it was meant 2 hint at whk the player is, as well as pointing out at a future hero not bing worked on.. Ut since it appeared in skyrim, it might b saying that he is going 2 be worked on now.

      -The Z Boss

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    • A polite suggestion, spell check what you write before you post it? I'm not trying to be offensive or anything, just making a request.

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    • None taken. Can't spell check, I type this on a touchpad, and I can't spell anyting like elsweyr(grammar nazi who told me bout that).

      -The Z Boss

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    • Anyway, this thread has been abandoned for a while, so I'm going to start it up again.

      What happened to the Nerevarine?

      -The Z Boss

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    • Apparently he made a trip to Akavir, if you're referring to the Nerevarine in Morrowind. The original one just got murdered.

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    • Incarnate Sable wrote:
      Apparently he made a trip to Akavir, if you're referring to the Nerevarine in Morrowind. The original one just got murdered.

      I've always wondered about the reference for that. I mean, one of the Vivec's Sermon's books mentions that - but it was set before Morrowind was.

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    • The Empire has Legions on the Border with the Dominon and has been prepearing for the Second Great War.

      The Stormcloaks would not get a Huge Army as Skyrim not only is in Civil War but it is also dealing with Dragon Attacks and Vampire Attacks.

      Valenwood is being "Cleansed" by the Thalmor so there might be pockets of resisitance.

      Elsweyr split into two kingdoms and become client states of the Dominion.

      About Alinor during the Oblivion Crisis they lost the Crystal Tower in a massacre they werent at all strong during the Crisis. Black Marsh(zerg rushing the gates actually worked under the influence of the hist) and Cyrodil (Champion of Cyrodil closeing the gates) fared better. 

      Hammerfell's a Grey area with the possibity of Thalmor legally in there.

      Morrowind would not get involed as they are still rebuilding from Red Year and the Argonian Invasion and there are still Argonian raiding parties around Morrowind so they are not going to be in a position to help anyone.

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    • Maybe the next game will involve liberating Elseweyr from the AD.

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    • No, the Khajits of Elsweyr are going to remain loyal to the Dominon. The Khajits think that the Altmer returned the moons (somethng that is an integral part of Khajit culture). I hope that the next game is when we travel to Hammerfell and hopefully a High Rock expansion considering High Rock is a VERY small province in comparison to Hammerfell or Skyrim.

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    • I think that the Dro'Jizad will uncover that the moon magic thing was absolute bullshit and the Khajiit will rebel against the AD.

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    • You'll start off the game as a prisoner accused of selling skooma to khajiit children and will eventually use skooma addiction to topple the aldmeri dominion by turning them all into skooma addicted magicians while the khajiit will rise to become the wealthiest merchants in all of tamriel under the authority of the Mi-ow Dynasty.

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    • Nice but a daedric prince muzt be involved. 

      -The Z Boss (too lazy to log in)

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    • Oh btw Ji in Jizad means young adult or bachelor, meaning someine lacking experience.

      -The Z Boss

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    • So we have 'Forefather-Adult'-ziad? Strange name haha.

      Personally to all the people saying Elsweyr is too small to host the next game I reckon it'd probably be fine. Look at Morrowind, it's based in Vvanderfell not Morrowind, which in the larger scope of things is quite small. 

      The only thing I really want in the next game is destroy the bloody Thalmor, god I hate them. Empire all the way over the Aldermi Dominion.

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    • Ji'kada approves.

      - WorshipsMeridia/Ji'kada the Khajiit

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    • Dro'Jizad, I would imagine could be a mystic of the Khajiit & champion of Jyggalag / Sheogorath?

      They may find out that the Argonians plan on attacking Elseweyr due to the Thalmor's plan.  The Dro'Jizad could decide to use special magic to begin an invasion or discover the evil secrets of Thalmor trickery.

      I hope to see Elsweyr, Blackwood ( part of Cyrodiil ), & Black Marsh.  They could also add mainland Morrowind possibly.

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    • Also, a possible Akaviri ( Tseasci ) invasion of Black Marsh would be cool too.

      It would show people that Argonians are not invincible, nor have Black Marsh be boring.

      I imagine there is at least one ancient magical tower in Black Marsh, plus there could be some cool prophecy about it.  Watch a tower stand through it all or fall into Oblivion ( the void ? ) ???

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    • I have had an interesting thought that I'd like to share with you all about "Dro'Jizad"

      While the lack of "the" would suggest that it is just a name Dro'Jizad is still mentioned as a prophesized being of whom there is (to my knowledge) no further information about anywhere else. This would suggest that Dro'Jizad is a person prophesized but not yet come.

      Assuming this and looking at the parts of the name or title that we do understand (being Dro for Grandfather/Grandmother and Ji for Bachelor/Young Adult) we can see that the name contains references of both youth and great age. This could be a way for Khajiit to express the person as immortal or eternal, perhaps something much like the Nerevarine, an incarnation?

      These are just the musings of a bored nerd, but please tell me what you think about this hypothesis.

      Cheers.

      -Gnomvid

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    • 83.255.21.170 wrote:
      I have had an interesting thought that I'd like to share with you all about "Dro'Jizad"

      While the lack of "the" would suggest that it is just a name Dro'Jizad is still mentioned as a prophesized being of whom there is (to my knowledge) no further information about anywhere else. This would suggest that Dro'Jizad is a person prophesized but not yet come.

      Assuming this and looking at the parts of the name or title that we do understand (being Dro for Grandfather/Grandmother and Ji for Bachelor/Young Adult) we can see that the name contains references of both youth and great age. This could be a way for Khajiit to express the person as immortal or eternal, perhaps something much like the Nerevarine, an incarnation?

      These are just the musings of a bored nerd, but please tell me what you think about this hypothesis.

      Cheers.

      -Gnomvid

      Very intriguing.  As I only played several hours of Morrowind, I know little of the Nerevanne.  I'll keep following this and see where this theory ends up.

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    • TheMindOfMadness wrote:
      83.255.21.170 wrote:
      I have had an interesting thought that I'd like to share with you all about "Dro'Jizad"

      While the lack of "the" would suggest that it is just a name Dro'Jizad is still mentioned as a prophesized being of whom there is (to my knowledge) no further information about anywhere else. This would suggest that Dro'Jizad is a person prophesized but not yet come.

      Assuming this and looking at the parts of the name or title that we do understand (being Dro for Grandfather/Grandmother and Ji for Bachelor/Young Adult) we can see that the name contains references of both youth and great age. This could be a way for Khajiit to express the person as immortal or eternal, perhaps something much like the Nerevarine, an incarnation?

      These are just the musings of a bored nerd, but please tell me what you think about this hypothesis.

      Cheers.

      -Gnomvid

      Very intriguing.  As I only played several hours of Morrowind, I know little of the Nerevanne.  I'll keep following this and see where this theory ends up.

      I am glad that I intrigued you with my thoughts! I should have been clearer about the Nerevarine part, seeing as it is thrown in there quite unceremoniously;

      I meant to ponder if this "Dro'Jizad" could be the incarnation of some other person, seeing as it is written as a name in the "The Hope of the Redoran"-book. Now, the Nerevarine was the incarnation of Nerevar, a chimer of old, yet the Nerevarine of Morrowind can be of any race. In the same way I think that "Dro'Jizad" could be the incarnation of some Khajiit hero. 

      Yet, I am also disproving myself in this by looking at my previous statement where I comment on that "Dro'Jizad" seems to be an unforfilled prophecy due to lack of further referance.

      So, as you can see, I am nothing if not terribly unstructured!

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    • GnomvidTheWise wrote:
      TheMindOfMadness wrote:
      83.255.21.170 wrote:
      I have had an interesting thought that I'd like to share with you all about "Dro'Jizad"

      While the lack of "the" would suggest that it is just a name Dro'Jizad is still mentioned as a prophesized being of whom there is (to my knowledge) no further information about anywhere else. This would suggest that Dro'Jizad is a person prophesized but not yet come.

      Assuming this and looking at the parts of the name or title that we do understand (being Dro for Grandfather/Grandmother and Ji for Bachelor/Young Adult) we can see that the name contains references of both youth and great age. This could be a way for Khajiit to express the person as immortal or eternal, perhaps something much like the Nerevarine, an incarnation?

      These are just the musings of a bored nerd, but please tell me what you think about this hypothesis.

      Cheers.

      -Gnomvid

      Very intriguing.  As I only played several hours of Morrowind, I know little of the Nerevanne.  I'll keep following this and see where this theory ends up.
      I am glad that I intrigued you with my thoughts! I should have been clearer about the Nerevarine part, seeing as it is thrown in there quite unceremoniously;

      I meant to ponder if this "Dro'Jizad" could be the incarnation of some other person, seeing as it is written as a name in the "The Hope of the Redoran"-book. Now, the Nerevarine was the incarnation of Nerevar, a chimer of old, yet the Nerevarine of Morrowind can be of any race. In the same way I think that "Dro'Jizad" could be the incarnation of some Khajiit hero. 

      Yet, I am also disproving myself in this by looking at my previous statement where I comment on that "Dro'Jizad" seems to be an unforfilled prophecy due to lack of further referance.

      So, as you can see, I am nothing if not terribly unstructured!

      I wouldn't know what that is like... not at all ;)

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    • Well if the next game is in Elsweyr I am going to be annoyed by the way khajiit talk.

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    • I'll pretend I didn't read that.

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    • TheMindOfMadness wrote: I'll pretend I didn't read that.

      I hate people that talk in third person, which is why I went and killed every khajit in Skyrim.

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    • It could be a mix of provinces instead of just one.

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    • Twigman55 wrote:

      TheMindOfMadness wrote: I'll pretend I didn't read that.

      I hate people that talk in third person, which is why I went and killed every khajit in Skyrim.
      • cough*racist*cough*
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    • Rukathesoldier wrote:
      Twigman55 wrote:

      TheMindOfMadness wrote: I'll pretend I didn't read that.

      I hate people that talk in third person, which is why I went and killed every khajit in Skyrim.
      • cough*racist*cough*
      • (cough) sociopath (cough)
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    • TheMindOfMadness wrote:
      Rukathesoldier wrote:
      Twigman55 wrote:

      TheMindOfMadness wrote: I'll pretend I didn't read that.

      I hate people that talk in third person, which is why I went and killed every khajit in Skyrim.
      • cough*racist*cough*
      • (cough) sociopath (cough)
      • Cough*cough*Cough*
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    • Rukathesoldier wrote:

      TheMindOfMadness wrote:
      Rukathesoldier wrote:
      Twigman55 wrote:

      TheMindOfMadness wrote: I'll pretend I didn't read that.

      I hate people that talk in third person, which is why I went and killed every khajit in Skyrim.
      • cough*racist*cough*
      • (cough) sociopath (cough)
      • Cough*cough*Cough*

      It's not racist at all, if an Imperial were to talk in third person i'd chop their head off also.

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    • 24.44.141.89 wrote:
      Problem is, Elweyr is WAY too small of a province.

      Both Elsweyr and Valenwood combined are about the same size as Skyrim.

      Why not have both? *cue celebratory latino music*

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    • Sithmastur wrote:
      24.44.141.89 wrote:
      Problem is, Elweyr is WAY too small of a province.
      Both Elsweyr and Valenwood combined are about the same size as Skyrim.

      Why not have both? *cue celebratory latino music*

      Ball-in-a-cup

      Mexico's favourite toy for over 430 years.

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    • Possibly, but then again the game world in each game is not scaled to size to the actual province in lore. Elsweyr could in fact be larger than Oblivion and Skyrim game worlds combined for all we know.

      Why am I arguing about this? I'm probably not going to get any of the future Elder Scrolls games (for now) since Bethesda will stop making games for filthy Xbox 360 peasants to enjoy.

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    • Actually, according to the maps of Tamriel on this wiki, Elsewyr seems to be about the same size of Skyrim, maybe a bit smaller.  While talking about the map, Cyrodiil looks far bigger than Skyrim, while they are about the same size (16 miles/kilometres (I forget which it is)) in-game.

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    • i'm almost 100% sure that the next game'll be "TES VI: Elsweyr", mainly cuz the player was already MAN and MER(as in the "canon" appearence) so only BEAST is left for us... thought the fact that beth is probably not gonna make more games for the 360 or 3 haunts me

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    • Elswyr SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKS!!!!!!!!

      TES VI sumurset all the way!

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    • WhoeverReadThis wrote:
      i'm almost 100% sure that the next game'll be "TES VI: Elsweyr", mainly cuz the player was already MAN and MER(as in the "canon" appearence) so only BEAST is left for us... thought the fact that beth is probably not gonna make more games for the 360 or 3 haunts me

      They will probably start to focus on the One and the PS4 now. I just want another game, I'm still hurting from the blue balls Skyrim gave me.

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    • Seeing how the next TES would be 200 more or less in the future would be possible to take place in Summer Set isle, just say that in the time space between V and VI the Dominion has allowed or forced to let other races into the Isles, as for the lore, they could use the pisjic order or something

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    • Why do you think that The Elder Scrolls VI will be set 200 years in the future?

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    • It will be Elsweyr. I wish it was Summerset isles I want to be a Pisjic Monk badass mage like Divayth Fyr.

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    • Why do you think that The Elder Scrolls VI will be set 200 years in the future?

      This so much.

      3E 370

      3E 375

      3E 397

      3E 399

      3E 405

      3E 427

      3E 433


      63 Years years old the Eternal hero is at Oblivion.

      From the First to the Fourth is less than a 100.

      It is very likely they jumped to give some room for the aftermath of Oblivion and others.

      Skyrim's events needed that time for all the wars n such to be fought.


      We can easily have another game going around the time of Skyrim after all they had 4 games take place within a lifetime.

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    • So you're saying thaat we can have another game in the early to mid 4th Era?  That isn't 200 years in the future; if we count the time period of each Elder Scrolls game as the Tamriellic present, that means Skyrim is set in modern day.  Another game in the 4th Era is not nearly 200 years.  And also, your reasoning doesn't really prove that the the next game would be set in circa 4E 400; it just means that the events of Chapter 1-4 took place in a short time span.

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    • guys, i know it has been A YEAR about the 7 places attacking the aldmeri dominionz, soo the guy named dark says 7 holds can attack the dominion? its possible really, but it would took years to complete and they are though and you know what, you remember about the aldmeri mage and the 4 body guards in the understone keep right? the place where the jarl of markath lives the isaac or whatever guy, if they heard the war is going on from a guard, he could pretend theres some sort of stuff to report to the jarl and say it to the guard to let them in, then close the door lock it then if the war is going on and the dominion is losing they could easily kill the jarl of markath, Markath the place where the war begans, sneak thru helgen and go thru the mountens to get to their base then they could tell the jarl is dead, also solitude is the much much much open place for a thalmor to engage,they could convince the dragonborn to teach them the bend will shout or simply ask dragonborn for the aid they need to get a dragon by using BEENDDD WIIILL..!!! soo then the place got attacked,move on to whiterun, then kill the jarls at behind :D easily done. fancy way of saying "No"

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    • or just make dragonborn join alduin then use the dragons that got affected by the shout then attack Numinex's prison guards that guard the body in the dragonsreach then tell Alduin to resurrect him

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    • Legoguy451 wrote:
      So you're saying thaat we can have another game in the early to mid 4th Era?  That isn't 200 years in the future; if we count the time period of each Elder Scrolls game as the Tamriellic present, that means Skyrim is set in modern day.  Another game in the 4th Era is not nearly 200 years.  And also, your reasoning doesn't really prove that the the next game would be set in circa 4E 400; it just means that the events of Chapter 1-4 took place in a short time span.

      i was agreeing with you, Why would we have a game set 200MORE years into the future than skyrim. i understand why they did it for skyrim 4 games within 100years makes alot of chaos when each saves the world by near godly means.

      I was overall stating the possiblity of another game in Skyrimish times maybe 10-20years later in Dominion area's starting with a morrowind intro as a slave and get freed by a animal attack would be neat, meeting resistance groups if your not Altmer Bosmer or Khajiit, or maybe even a dominion owned land. 

      Would give us a MAJOR flip on the Dominion for all we've seen about them is nazi evil party. Maybe under their rule things are flourishing even if there is racism it's not major unless you resist. Maybe thats just a extremist group that's overdoing it on "frontier" areas. With the outlawing of Talos just being part of dominion religion like the imperial creed. "Talos is a great man just not a god"

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    • Ark of Death wrote:
      What strikes me as a bit odd is what seems to be a grammatical error in the last statement.

      "There are still other prophesies kept secret, from the (prophesies of [Dro'Jizad in Elsweyr] and the [Nerevarine in Morrowind]), to the Elder Scrolls themselves."

      It should be written as "'There are still other prophesies kept secret, from the prophesies of Dro'Jizad in Elsweyr , the Nerevarine in Morrowind, and the Elder Scrolls themselves."

      If that is indeed not a grammatical error, than it sounds as if the prophecy of the Nerevarine and Dro'Jizad are both parts of a single prophecy.

      Great lore find though, I had not heard of that one yet.

      I think that prophesies are collected under the general statement (), rather than the individual clauses[].

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    • 24.44.141.89 wrote: Problem is, Elweyr is WAY too small of a province.

      Daggerfall in Arena was a tiny area. Daggerfall in the game Daggerfall holds the record for biggest map in any game in history.

      The Elder Scrolls have a history of exaggerating scale.

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    • Here's a thought.

      In what "book" is the OP's quote mentioned? (The OP does not specify)

      (EDIT): Nvm, it's "The Hope of the Redoran".  It's a book that's been around since it's inclusion in TESIII: Morrowind.


      Yes, "Dro'Jizad" may or may not be an actual Khajiiti mythical Hero.  It is likely that we won't be forced to play as "The Mane" after all (if we're forced to be in any special role in an Elsweyr-based TES game in the future).

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    • WhoeverReadThis wrote:
      i'm almost 100% sure that the next game'll be "TES VI: Elsweyr", mainly cuz the player was already MAN and MER(as in the "canon" appearence) so only BEAST is left for us... thought the fact that beth is probably not gonna make more games for the 360 or 3 haunts me

      Khajiit are mer.

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    • Sothas wrote:
      WhoeverReadThis wrote:
      i'm almost 100% sure that the next game'll be "TES VI: Elsweyr", mainly cuz the player was already MAN and MER(as in the "canon" appearence) so only BEAST is left for us... thought the fact that beth is probably not gonna make more games for the 360 or 3 haunts me
      Khajiit are mer.

      Umm...no.

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    • TheMindOfMadness wrote:
      Sothas wrote:
      WhoeverReadThis wrote:
      i'm almost 100% sure that the next game'll be "TES VI: Elsweyr", mainly cuz the player was already MAN and MER(as in the "canon" appearence) so only BEAST is left for us... thought the fact that beth is probably not gonna make more games for the 360 or 3 haunts me
      Khajiit are mer.
      Umm...no.

      Yes they are . They were transformed by Azurah from the same Forest People mer race bosmer came from.

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    • Sothas wrote:
      TheMindOfMadness wrote:
      Sothas wrote:
      WhoeverReadThis wrote:
      i'm almost 100% sure that the next game'll be "TES VI: Elsweyr", mainly cuz the player was already MAN and MER(as in the "canon" appearence) so only BEAST is left for us... thought the fact that beth is probably not gonna make more games for the 360 or 3 haunts me
      Khajiit are mer.
      Umm...no.
      Yes they are . They were transformed by Azurah from the same Forest People mer race bosmer came from.

      Does anyone know if this is cannon material?

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    • TheMindOfMadness wrote:
      Sothas wrote:
      TheMindOfMadness wrote:
      Sothas wrote:
      WhoeverReadThis wrote:
      i'm almost 100% sure that the next game'll be "TES VI: Elsweyr", mainly cuz the player was already MAN and MER(as in the "canon" appearence) so only BEAST is left for us... thought the fact that beth is probably not gonna make more games for the 360 or 3 haunts me
      Khajiit are mer.
      Umm...no.
      Yes they are . They were transformed by Azurah from the same Forest People mer race bosmer came from.
      Does anyone know if this is cannon material?

      It's from an in game book. What do you mean by canon material?

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    • I thought it was from an outside source.

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    • Nah, it's in Morrowind, Skyrim, and ESO.

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    • Opps.  My bad!  :(

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    • It's all good. I'd say like 99% of people don't know about it.

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    • Sothas wrote:
      It's all good. I'd say like 99% of people don't know about it.

      All the loremasters that participated in my history thread series failed to mention it too.

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