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  • I wonder...

    Ria, a young, brown haired, imperial girl, honourable at heart, talented newcomer and apprentice at her job, eager to be helpful to the Dovahkiin, and kindest of the Companions.

    Ria Silmane, a young, brown haired, imperial girl, honourable at heart, talented newcomer and apprentice at her job, eager to be helpful to the Champion, kind and first "companion" you EVER have on TES - tragic and sad as her story and betrayal were :( -

    So. A very subtle tribute by the lore creators? A very subtle hint at "second comings" or reincarnations, by the lore creators (as something not unseen on TES)? A mere nostalgic coincidence? What do you think? :)

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    • Coincidence.

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    • AngryEnclaveSoldier wrote:
      Coincidence.


      i think NOT!!!!! ( looks at people nervously )

      -tdwtg

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    • 46.245.144.82 wrote:
      AngryEnclaveSoldier wrote:
      Coincidence.

      i think NOT!!!!! ( looks at people nervously )

      -tdwtg


      ...

      Please, tell me what the supposed connection between Skyrim's Ria and Arena's Ria Silmae is.

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    • AngryEnclaveSoldier wrote:
      46.245.144.82 wrote:
      AngryEnclaveSoldier wrote:
      Coincidence.

      i think NOT!!!!! ( looks at people nervously )

      -tdwtg


      ...

      Please, tell me what the supposed connection between Skyrim's Ria and Arena's Ria Silmae is.

      Besides the ones that I pointed out on the original post? hehe. Those are the only people name Ria to have ever existed in all of TES history. And it's not like one is a blonde 12year old dunmer thief who harasses the locals and the other is an old argonian swamp witch that you only hear tales about. Or something like that.

      You must admit there are some interesting similarities.

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    • 62.31.43.199 wrote:
      AngryEnclaveSoldier wrote:
      46.245.144.82 wrote:
      AngryEnclaveSoldier wrote:
      Coincidence.

      i think NOT!!!!! ( looks at people nervously )

      -tdwtg


      ...

      Please, tell me what the supposed connection between Skyrim's Ria and Arena's Ria Silmae is.

      Besides the ones that I pointed out on the original post? hehe. Those are the only people name Ria to have ever existed in all of TES history. And it's not like one is a blonde 12year old dunmer thief who harasses the locals and the other is an old argonian swamp witch that you only hear tales about. Or something like that.

      You must admit there are some interesting similarities.


      Meh. That isn't enough to say that she's connected with her.

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    • No, but it is enough to retcon a connection in. :P

      - WorshipsMeridia

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    • Might be a descendant tho...

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    • Why? Just because they have the same first name and are both dark-haired imperials? 

      I call Coincedence.

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    • I merely said it was a possibility... For all we know Astrid might even be a distant relative of kodlak, get it?

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    • Well, yeah I guess, anything is possible.

      Get what?... I guess that meanms I don't get it. :P

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    • Actually you did get It... I guess I should have used other words since "get it" tends to be used for jokes...

      But still the topic is Ria and Ria.

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    • Coincidence. If there was an intended connection to be made, Ria would have been more essential than just as a potential follower and trainer. It also would make more sense for her to be a mage than a companion. Also, if Bethesda wanted to make the homage clear, they would have done more than just use the same name. They'd share a common quote of dialouge, or Ria would talk about how she was named after her ancestor who helped save the Empire, or just something a bit more obvious.

      Also, "Ria" is an Imperial first name for females, and most Imperials are already dark-haired. So that much isn't that suprising.

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    • Dark Jeto wrote:
      Coincidence. If there was an intended connection to be made, Ria would have been more essential than just as a potential follower and trainer. It also would make more sense for her to be a mage than a companion. Also, if Bethesda wanted to make the homage clear, they would have done more than just use the same name. They'd share a common quote of dialouge, or Ria would talk about how she was named after her ancestor who helped save the Empire, or just something a bit more obvious.

      Also, "Ria" is an Imperial first name for females, and most Imperials are already dark-haired. So that much isn't that suprising.

      Actually, I must say that your "secondary" sentence ironically holds more point than your whole first paragrah, in terms of arguing against any reincarnation, or passing homage by the lore writers, or descendance either known or unknown to the character. IMO ofcourse.

      I guess I'd like to believe it to be possible that, out of a bit of nostalgia for that so tragic but so important character in the very beginning of TES game saga, the lore writers would do a very subtle tribute to her in the form of resemblances that would make the players remember...

      Oh well...

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    • I'd expect that degree of subtelty in handling of lore from the writers of Dark Souls, but Bethesda, though I love their work, hasn't really convinced me that they can do a deeper, more subtle lore writing.

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    • Mmmh with that I'm inclined to agree. A high degree of inconspicuousness or concealment in terms of lore connections is not that common in the TES series. I guess their stronghold is more the sofisticated complexity, rich versatility and sheer volume of lore handling. Almost to a space dementia level. I always thought that the main lore writer's (who is not with TES anymore I believe) favourite character would be either Hermaeus Mora or Sheogorath.

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    • Or Vivec. I've seen him use the handle "Vehk" before, and he seems to write much about Vivec in particular.

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    • You can't say that they wouldnt make tributes to other games or movies,

      "Why did you join the Companions?"

      "Fortune and glory. Fortune. and. Glory."

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    • 69.166.78.40 wrote:
      You can't say that they wouldnt make tributes to other games or movies,

      "Why did you join the Companions?"

      "Fortune and glory. Fortune. and. Glory."

      Hehe yeah!

      But I'm starting to come to terms that, as said by...

      Dark Jeto:
      Also, "Ria" is an Imperial first name for females, and most Imperials are already dark-haired. So that much isn't that suprising.

      ...that's the basis for a coincidence, and the remaining evidences were just following it.

      Havent completely given up, but am inclined to.

      Maybe I also WANTED to see and believe on a possible subtle tribute, because I always kept a little liking for the poor young Ria Silmane, back from when I played the 1st game a long time ago, and back before anyone ever knew it would even have a sequel let alone the larger-than-life game saga it became.

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    • Ria Silmane is a Sorceress.

      Ria (skyrim) is a Warrior.

      They were just out of names and reused it for Skyrim or something.

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    • this thread is 4 years old, let it rest in peace.

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    • Find a large room for all the people who forbid responding to threads that were started a long time ago, and all the people who criticize posters of new threads on subjects that are "already covered elsewhere". Lock the door securely, and throw away the key. VvAnarchangelvV (talk) 21:12, August 13, 2019 (UTC)

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