So I've done all the quest objectives apart from meeting Eltrys in the Shrine of Talos one last time. The guards and Legate Whatshisface are there as normal but the guards don't approach me, and the Legate simply says "you're tresspassing, you'd better get out of here."
If I wait for him to lose patience and attack me, when I yield to the guards there is no way to start Escape from Cidnah Mine, even when I'm inside.
If I do something small like steal some bread and let the guards arrest me, the same thing happens as the above.
Any way I can salvage this, or am I going to have to load a very far-back save?
You aren't starting the quest in the way that triggers it, you are serving jail time. Simply mine ore to serve time, then go to Eltrys in the Shrine. The quest "No One Escapes Cidhna Mine" only starts if "The Forsworn Conspiracy" has been completed as that is part of the chain of events.
I think you're misunderstanding, no matter when I go into the Shrine to see Eltrys the same happens. There is no dialogue telling me that I have caused them a lot of trouble, etc, just the Legate telling me (as they do when you intrude on an Imperial Camp, the dialogue doesn't involve me) that I'm trespassing.
If I let the Legate attack me, there is no way to yield to them and be taken to the mines, I have to commit a crime and then yield!
I'm having the same thing. The Legate dude and the two Markarth guards are there but they just chill in their spot and don't do anything.
I tried committing a crime (attacked one of the guards) to see if anything happened but the guards just turned at me and asked to go to jail, in which I responded in Markarth. I had just finished a hard Dwarven Dungeon quest and I don't want to reload. Please someone what should I do?
Wirh my first character the mission worked fine, the guards talked to me and took me to cidhna mine and all that but with my second character I am having the same problem, the guards just talk to me like normal. I dont know why it happened, all I know is that I was lvl 47 when I did it with my first character but with my second character I tried it at lvl 33.
i gave up on trying to get this to work. I go in, Eltrys is dead, and the captain (or what ever he is) comments that i should join the Army as he walks past me out of the temple. So i left, took a nap in the inn, came back and it does the same thing. Every time. And i have no save to return to. I guess i will have to try to see if it works for my next character... but it is disapointing to not get to finish the story line.
I (once again) have the same problem.....worked fine previously but not with my new charactor..........................Does anyone actually have any tips on how to get this to work yet....I love that quest?
I'm playing this on XBOX - Skyrim Legendary Edition version and can confirm that the "Return to Eltrys" bug where you enter the shrine of Talos and a legate comes and talks to you normally exists. So, in this sense, I can't complete "The Forsworn Conspiracy" quest.
"resurrect" solves a lot of problems on PC. The experience as a whole is just much better. I'm sorry you guys are having these problems, but to my knowledge there are no fixes beyond reloading previous saves and hoping for the best.
On an only slightly-related note, how did you kill Madanach? Personally, I just turned into a werewolf and ate everyone in the mine.
I have the same issue. This is my third time trying to get a character through the game without any quest becoming uncompletable. The legate speaks to me about joining the Empire and then the guards have normal hold guard dialogue. Another broken quest.
I also got this bug when an Imperial legate talks to you about joining the Legion when you go to the shrine of Talos to finish the quest, rendering the quest unfinished, but I know how to fix it. When you read Eltrys letter and starts the quest, the game randomly selects 3 Markarth guards to ambush you when you return to Eltrys, but there is a chance that one of these 3 guards the game selected is the Imperial legate. In order to avoid the legate, SAVE YOUR GAME BEFORE READING ELTRYS LETTER and do the quest normally. If the legate takes the place of one of the guards, reload your save, read Eltrys letter again to start the quest and do the quest again until the 3 guards appear at the shrine of Talos so that you can finish the quest and start No One Escapes Cidhna Mine. But there are 4 things you must do while the quest is active to avoid triggering additional bugs:
1) Don't commit a crime.
2) Don't participate in the civil war or do the quest Season Unending.
3) Don't become thane.
4) Don't kill the guard who threatens you during the quest.
Hey, don't know if this could help at this time, but there's a way to get off this bug that i tried right now.
There are two considerations: Margret alive or dead ? (remember the first time when u get in Markarth? There's a assassin who kill her if we don't kill him first).
So, after all, with Margret alive, when I get to her to take any clue, I just talk and the "Find evidente about Margret" appears complete. So, entered Shine of Talos and the guards don't speak to me anything, just stay.
But if you see, to get Weylin and Nepos evidences, you should, in first, take in Weild Chest (Weylin's Note), and in Nepos body when he dies (Nepo's Journal). And even if you only chat with Margret, you don't have her evidence - even the quest appears complete (Find evidence about Margret). For that you should go in her bedroom, in the same building she was, and get in his dresser a Margret's Journal.
Now, with all evidences in hands, I backed to Shine Of Talos, when the three guards appears and start cheat with me, taking me to jail.
I'm stuck on the "Find evidence about Thanor" objective. I think I remember vampires attacking or something in the Markarth treasury house, because now when I enter, Thanor's just standing there and there are ash piles around the treasury house and no one else around. Talking to Thanor doesn't trigger the quest and I can't find his attendant who you're supposed to talk to here. Any tips?
I found a fix for this when you enter the shrine and if they dont talk to you kill the guy on left he wont die though which is good then kill the guy on the right there should be an army of guards comeing in when your fighting, after you kill all those guards because one of them when they die triggers the compleation of the mission. Found that out by experamenting because it wasent working for me the normal way also. Well after the guards are dead put away your weapon then the first guard hopefully will talk to you saying you have crimes against the city then to activate the next quest you click on the the thing that says that you were framed and you submit then the next quest activates. Also sorry if my typeing style is not great.
Pretty much made it all the way through the quest. Helped Madanach or whatever escape, came out into Markarth with the Forsworn into a scene where the Forsworn and Markarth guards are supposed to start fighting. But Madanach just repeats his dialouge to me over and over and the scene or the quest doesn't complete. Stinks, cuz im pretty sure that was the very end of the quest. Almost made it..
The worst tho... I permanantly lost some quest items.
- Gallus' journal for the nightingale quest
- and Katria's journal that marks the locations of the Atherian shards for the Lost to the Ages quest.
Just today I ended up killing the Marthkarth guards that pin the murder on you in the Shrine, and apparently one of the bounties went to Whiterun instead. So it was never forgiven after I killed Madanach.
I only found out after I went there and a guard attempted an arrest.
Is this a known bug?
I haven't seen my bug posted anywhere, but it happens to me ALL the time in my game... I enter Markarth and The lady at the stall speaks her lines but Margret is not there to respond. Weylon spawns in around the corner, walks up from where the workers are, gets to where Margret should be, stabs the air and glitches. Guards attack him. After he's dead Margret runs out of the Inn and acts like she was present. It's happened on most of my playthroughs... Anyone? I have a modded game, but have never modified anything to do with Markarth's exterior, nor moved Margret's reference in the Silver-Blood inn. Something is overwriting where these NPC's are supposed to be... The only thing I have that may change schedules/Move NPC's is USLEEP...
To elaborate on what I'm experiencing, If I go into the Inn before Weylon get's to his position it plays out a bit differently... Margret is just standing in her room (where her reference is) and can't be interacted with "This person is busy"... If I wait a bit she runs out of the inn to attend the scene she missed and gets killed by Weylon who has by now walked up from The Warrens, where his reference is located. So rather than bein summoned to the 'start scene', they are starting where their references are and trying to get there. Any idea what could cause this? Package/schedule overriding somewhere? Scene trigger not activating for some reason? When I uninstall USLEEP Margret loads in the right place. I'm not blaming USLEEP, but there has to be a conflict somewhere.
One way I found (if they aren't arresting you) was to go to the Jarl and talk to him about someone being attacked. Then, return to the shrine of Talos and the guards should arrest you. It worked, surprisingly enough.
I was worried I was going to have to load a save from a long way back. But when I entered the Temple of Talos to find 2 guards and Eltrys dead I continued as normal, only they offered no dialogue and didn’t approach me. I walked out the main door and back in again. Stood at the bottom of the steps and waited 15 hours. Another guard just randomly spawned in front of me and started the quest. So that worked for me!
I put "Weylin's Note" and "Nepos Journal" into Eltrys' dead body and waited 24 hours...popped out to the guard with mission dialogue and it was fixed.
Mine was bugged for over a week..did other quests and saved multiple times in between. Don't give up on that 100% lol
So... i tried for a whole day to understand how to finish the quest. I didn’t read Thonar’s journal. I didn’t pickpocket so I didn’t read it. Once I pickpocketed and read the journal, I was able to finish the quest! Hopefully this will work for others :)
I had this same problem. I killed the 2 guards in the shrine which raised my bounty. A few guards came in and started attacking me I killed them then left seeing that it glitched. 3 more guards tried to attack me I killed them and then it said I had completed the mission
I am having the same thing happen. The Legate Admand is in the Shrine and telling me I'm tresspassing. I went to all the locations, read all the journals and notes, talked to the Thane, made sure I didn't have any bounties on me, basically everything mentioned in this thread. I cannot reload a save without losing a good number of levels.
It is possible on a skyrim legendery edition ps4 or xbox to solve te bug
If you heve a ressurect mod. You simpely kill the guarts and ressurect them. Than surrender if lukky you nouw get te dialog options like normal