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  • I finished the Main Quest of Oblivion and no matter how hard I tried to save him, Jauffre always died.  I almost cried at this; he was my favourite character and his death almost made me want to stop playing Oblivion.  Did anyone else feel this way?

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    • It's actually possible for them to stay alive, if not killed by Daedra in the Imperial Palace or at the Great Gate near Bruma. If Jauffre and Baurus both survive, they settle back down at Cloud Ruler Temple and Jauffre continues ruling as Grandmaster of the Blades.

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    • I know they are able to survive, but despite my best efforts, they always die.  I managed to get Baurus out of the sewers after a few attempts, but he kept dying in the Battle of Bruma.  I can never manage to rescue Jauffre, though; he always dies while I am inside the gate. 

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    • Have you tried equiping him with bound armor?

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    • I can't say that I have.

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    • For the first few years that I'd played Oblivion, I wasn't even aware Jauffre could die. I didn't have any difficulties keeping him alive.

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    • This is all well and good, but the point of this thread was to ask anyone if Jauffre died in their main playthrough and if they felt bad about it.

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    • And I answered both questions. No he didn't die in my playthrough, so no I didn't feel bad about it.

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    • He died in one of my early games, it just didn't feel the same :(

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    • Gasp!

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    • I didn't mind him "ordering me around like he's my boss" because he technically is your boss (even if you didn't join the Blades, he still has more authority than you).  And anyway, he doesn't act that much like he is your boss; he is actually quite calm and friendly.

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    • How did you find that?

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    • Legoguy451 wrote:
      I didn't mind him "ordering me around like he's my boss" because he technically is your boss (even if you didn't join the Blades, he still has more authority than you).  And anyway, he doesn't act that much like he is your boss; he is actually quite calm and friendly.


      Lots of my characters wouldn't recognize his authority.

      He does act like he's your boss: the first time you meet him he demands that you go to Kvatch and bring back Martin. And then once you've done that, he immediately tells you to come to Cloud Ruler Temple. Then to go to the Imperial City... and so on. The old chromedome only shuts up once he's been beaten to a pulp by the Daedra.

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    • 95.149.93.76 wrote:
      Legoguy451 wrote:
      I didn't mind him "ordering me around like he's my boss" because he technically is your boss (even if you didn't join the Blades, he still has more authority than you).  And anyway, he doesn't act that much like he is your boss; he is actually quite calm and friendly.


      Lots of my characters wouldn't recognize his authority.

      He does act like he's your boss: the first time you meet him he demands that you go to Kvatch and bring back Martin. And then once you've done that, he immediately tells you to come to Cloud Ruler Temple. Then to go to the Imperial City... and so on. The old chromedome only shuts up once he's been beaten to a pulp by the Daedra.

      It's for the sake of the Empire.

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    • Legoguy451 wrote:
      How did you find that?

      I'm not sure how I found it I was just watching Oblivion videos a long time ago and it came up. His channel has a few other Oblivion music videos fyi.

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    • Legoguy451 wrote:
      I can't say that I have.

      Allow me to elaborate, first you should do the permanent Bound armor trick then enchant your Bound armor with fortify health, a sigil stone would be ideal however the enchanting altar would be adequete. Once your gear is enchanted reverse pickpocket it onto Jauffre. He should now survive rather easily especially if you gave him an enchanted Bound weapon.

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    • Thank you.    

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    • Np I hope it helps. :)

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    • Yay, no more dead Jauffre.  Thank you, Camoran the Usurper!

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    • Np i'm glad it worked. :D

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    • What does "np" stand for?

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    • Nurse Practitioner.

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    • Camoran the Usurper wrote:
      Nurse practioner i'm glad it worked. :D

      That doesn't make much sense then, Dark Jeto.

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    • Legoguy451 wrote:
      Camoran the Usurper wrote:
      Nurse practioner i'm glad it worked. :D
      That doesn't make much sense then, Dark Jeto.

      Maybe he thinks you have a shining future in the field of medicine. :P

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    • I prefer natural philosophy.  Something about medicine puts me off . . . maybe it is all the medical gore.  But anyway, I was asking Camoran.

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    • It means "No problem". It's the typical response when someone says thank you or "ty". I'm sorry, I just assumed that it was an acronym that enough people were aware of, and that you were just having me on.

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    • Oh.

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    • Not as fun an answer, is it?

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    • I suppose not.

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    • Still, now that Jauffre is alive and well again (thanks to Camoran the Usurper), I don't have a satisfactory emotional climax for Oblivion.  Sure, Martin's dead, but it took me a while to actually work out he was dead and it isn't as though you can interact with his body, whereas with Jauffre you could.  When I found his body, I physics-carried his body into the air while sneaking and then yelled at the screen, the Daedra, the quest and at Oblivion in general.  I was trying to reach an approximation of the picture at the top.

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    • For some reason, the picture showed up during editing, but not in the final post.  Anyway, it was that one of Batman cradling Jason Todd's bloody remains in some smoking wreckage.

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    • Legoguy451 wrote:
      I finished the Main Quest of Oblivion and no matter how hard I tried to save him, Jauffre always died.  I almost cried at this; he was my favourite character and his death almost made me want to stop playing Oblivion.  Did anyone else feel this way?

      Kinda, but for me it was more anger as basically everyone of the Blades died within a few minutes of the final battle so there was no one to talk to after Martin sacrificed himself.

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    • Demons Fable wrote:
      Legoguy451 wrote:
      I finished the Main Quest of Oblivion and no matter how hard I tried to save him, Jauffre always died.  I almost cried at this; he was my favourite character and his death almost made me want to stop playing Oblivion.  Did anyone else feel this way?
      Kinda, but for me it was more anger as basically everyone of the Blades died within a few minutes of the final battle so there was no one to talk to after Martin sacrificed himself.

      Really?  All the Blades died?  For me, only Jauffre and Baurus died; the rest waled away unscathed.

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    • Demons Fable wrote:
      Legoguy451 wrote:
      I finished the Main Quest of Oblivion and no matter how hard I tried to save him, Jauffre always died.  I almost cried at this; he was my favourite character and his death almost made me want to stop playing Oblivion.  Did anyone else feel this way?
      Kinda, but for me it was more anger as basically everyone of the Blades died within a few minutes of the final battle so there was no one to talk to after Martin sacrificed himself.

      You do know you were supposed to be attacking the ones in the red armor, right?

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    • I read this thread for the lols.

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    • SkyrimsShillelagh wrote:
      I read this thread for the lols.

      Still, did Jauffre die in your playthrough and how did you feel about it?

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    • Legoguy451 wrote:
      SkyrimsShillelagh wrote:
      I read this thread for the lols.
      Still, did Jauffre die in your playthrough and how did you feel about it?

      He died on two of my three play throughs.  I was pretty pissed on the first one, Baurus died as well.  On the third one I got smart and reverse pick-pocketed a bunch of goodies onto them.

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    • On my first playthrough, Jauffre died and I though: "He died honorably", then moved on to Knight of the Nine DLC.

      I only kept him alive on my second playthrough to see his interactions post-plotline.

      Since then, I barely complete the main quest at all.

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    • In my first playthrough, he didn't die with honour at all - I destroyed the Great Gate, but when I left, I saw him getting crushed by the Daedric Siege Crawler.  Second and third try, he was cut down by Daedra before even entered the Gate.  I decided to just let him die as a hero on my fourth try; I made a funeral pyre for him made out of the bodies of all the slain Dremora I found around him.  It was probably the most touching scene I have ever seen in an Elder Scrolls game until I met Arch-Paladin Gelebor.

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    • I remember when I first lost the Jaufster as I call him. I actually loaded a previous save. Barring Martin, he is the best Major Character in Oblivion and kicks Esbern's rear anyday!

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    • i remember marching on the oblvion gate with Jauffre at my left and Baurus at my right, we cut down most of them, but then a couple of dremora ran past me to get to the two of them, and i saw them get absolutely mashed by the gits

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    • I'm glad that idiot is gone, if he had understood the magnitude of the situation and taken better care of the amulet, or better yet, left it in the good hands of the Champion of Cyrodiil, the dragonfires could have been relit and the whole damn mess would have been avoided.

      Now in Skyrim were left with a false, usurper emperor and a weak, illegitimate empire. Thanks Jauffre -_-

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    • well i didnt notice he died because when i came back to the battlefield where we fought the army of deadra and i saw his corps and I carry him to the rock and put his sword right next to the corpse.

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    • Lol at the point brought up there, if you think about, Jauffre's decision to take the amulet from your character actually caused the entire rest of the plot of oblivion. And then the entire plot of skyrim by extension. He didn't die in my playthrough but now I wish he did.

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    • For me, Jauffre died in Defence of Bruma at the first or second gate

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    • You don't have to do all that reverse pick-pocketing or bound helments or cuirasses or even console commands. 

      Here is a simple way to keep Jauff and Baurus and most everyone alive during the Defense of Bruma:

      (a) make sure you've done the Pilgramage / Knights of the Nine quest in the original TES Oblivion game so that you have the Merciless Touch spell and the Blessing of the Eight spell. The former allows you to heal your colleagues 20 points. The latter, gives them a fairly strong shield for 60 seconds. 

      (b) Before the battle cast shield spells on Jauff and Baurus in particular and other you want alive (don't bother w Martin - he can't die)

      (c) During the battle, run around and heal and cast shield spells on everyone, but pay attention to B and J's (hehe) health if you want them alive. Don't worry about killing enemies unless one is targeting B or J. 

      (d) When the Great Gate opens, run straight into it and run through it - don't bother killing.


      It may not work the first time, but do this 2-3 times max and you will certainly end up with Jauff and baurus both alive.

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    • You don't have to do all that reverse pick-pocketing or bound helments or cuirasses or even console commands. 

      Here is a simple way to keep Jauff and Baurus and most everyone alive during the Defense of Bruma:

      (a) make sure you've done the Pilgramage / Knights of the Nine quest in the original TES Oblivion game so that you have the Merciless Touch spell and the Blessing of the Eight spell. The former allows you to heal your colleagues 20 points. The latter, gives them a fairly strong shield for 60 seconds. 

      (b) Before the battle cast shield spells on Jauff and Baurus in particular and others you want to die (don't bother w Martin - he can't die as many of you know). 

      (c) During the battle, run around and cast heal and shield spells on everyone, but pay attention to B and J's (hehe) health if you want them alive. Don't worry about killing enemies unless one is targeting B or J. 

      (d) When the Great Gate opens, run straight into it and run through it - don't bother killing.

      It may not work the first time, but do this 2-3 times max and you will certainly end up with Jauff and baurus both alive.

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    • Sorry for posting this again, but I want to people able to get updates on the off chance anyone replies...

      YOU don't have to do all that reverse pick-pocketing or bound helments or cuirasses or even console commands. 

      Here is a simple way to keep Jauff and Baurus and most everyone alive during the Defense of Bruma:

      (a) make sure you've done the Pilgramage / Knights of the Nine quest in the original TES Oblivion game so that you have the Merciless Touch spell and the Blessing of the Eight spell. The former allows you to heal your colleagues 20 points. The latter, gives them a fairly strong shield for 60 seconds. 

      (b) Before the battle cast shield spells on Jauff and Baurus in particular and others you want to die (don't bother w Martin - he can't die as many of you know). 

      (c) During the battle, run around and cast heal and shield spells on everyone, but pay attention to B and J's (hehe) health if you want them alive. Don't worry about killing enemies unless one is targeting B or J. 

      (d) When the Great Gate opens, run straight into it and run through it - don't bother killing.

      It may not work the first time, but do this 2-3 times max and you will certainly end up with Jauff and baurus both alive.

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    • There are multiple characters hard to save in Oblivion quests: Jauffre and Baurus during the final battles of Main Quest, along with Viera Lerus at the Great Gate, Jeelius during Dagon Shrine or Farwil Indarys and Bremman Senyan in the Wayward Knight. Jeelius is even harder than Baurus and Jauffre, he doesn't want to run way from the dungeon. If you do the quests at lower levels, it's easier to save these characters. Cyrodiil already seems to have low population, so I think it's expected players will want to save as many people as they can. The same applies to Knights of the Nine, they can die during the final quest. On PC you can set them to essential, otherwise it's difficult to save everybody who helps us during quests. In my story I want the heroes like Jauffre to enjoy their retirement, but saving him is a real pain in the neck around level 25.

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    • The worst happens to the best 

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    • Anyway the blades are wacc as they want to kill parthurnax actually they want the Dragon born to do it because dolphins and esburn are too cowardly to do it the themselves. And what is the point of killing one of the very few good dragons! Parthurnax can die but ohdaviin you know that other Dragon that has done just as bad things in the past can be alive 

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