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  • I was just wondering that because i have never found a defenite awnser. Neloth in dragonborn says they are rebuilding vanderfell and i don't believe the argonians would allow that. Also in the elder scrolls novel The infernal city the floating city umbreil basically destroys half of black marsh and kill all the argonians who settled in the south so i don't think the argonians have the power to keep it because after that event the probable were injured as much as the dunmer were. I was the just wondering if there was a definite awnser past my own opinions. Also if you would can you please tell me why they attacked morrowind. I can understand they wanted revenge but in oblivion it states that morrowind has abolished slavery for good and there relationship with the black marsh greatly improves,  so i don't see why the argonians would want to make that relationship go down the whole. I have read on theory about the aldmeri dominion pushing it but i want to hear your thoughts.

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    • I believe they are holding most of it. The only place they are not holding is Vvardenfell because it was destroyed by the eruption of the Red Mountain.

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    • It does mention in the dlc dragonborn that they are rebuilding vanderfell so why aren't the argonains stopping them if they are still trying to occupy the land.

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    • Well the dunmer have been rebuilding vanderfell like the contributor said and neloth also mentions having control over southern morrowind so maybe umbriel really injured the argonians. It wiped out half of the black marsh and all the argonians settling in southern morrowind which was were most of the occupying armies were. ( If you haven't read the novel the infernal city this is probably confusing, but hopefully you have played the dragonborn dlc for skyrim.) So maybe after that the dunmer organised and retook it. With the events of the novel the argonians in theory can't do much cause now the black marsh is as crippled as morrowind maybe even more. Even though red mountain has been erupting continually the they somehow have rebuilt, mainly vivec as he sais. Maybe the ash is making it more fertile and the worst of the ash is being picked up by the wind and pushed out to sea. That might be why solthiem gets hit hard with the ash. I have studied more and given my therioes i believe that within maybe five hundred years after skyrim morrowind could be a real power again. Still looking for awnsers on my aldmeri dominion question i asked in my first message.

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    • I think in one of the in-game books, it talks about the AD inciting an argonian rebellion against the empire since it is virtually impossible to invade Blackmarsh (even Tiber Septim had to use the Numidium, and he was still worried that he might lose), but they failed to keep them in their control like they wanted and lost contact. I'm not sure, but I think at this point Morrowind is independent since they were still mad about the empire not helping them in the Oblivion Crisis, and it talks about the Argonians starving and not being able to sustain themselves without help from the Empire, so that could explain why they invaded Morrowind, so they could get more farmland and become self-sustaining without having to worry about imperial backlash. Also, I don't know how much you know about WWII history, but before the war started, the Germans had captured Vladimir Lenin back in WWI and sent him back to Russia to try to get them on their side, but when they decided to invade the U.S.S.R., he became one of their biggest enemies and was one of the main figures responsible for the Nazi's downfall. The parallels of the AD and the Nazis are pretty obvious, but maybe the Argonians could later be a stronger parallel to the Soviets and lead to further conflicts in TES VI snd VII? 

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    • According to all the maps I find all of Blackmarsh and Morrowind are under Argonian control 

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    • Thanks NOtATHAlMORSPY. That was a great awnser. I to really want to see this relationship develop. Maybe one of the futrue games could be a war between the dunmer and the argonians but i hope they develop it in another way becasue a war between the two reces is probably to generic.

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    • This is a super late response of like 5 years but most of Morrowind was retaken by the dark elves. And theres ingame proof that all of mainland morrowind wasnt taken, they mentioned that Blacklight was the new capital, which is a mainland city. I would say the Argonians came very far. POSSIBLY as far as the Inner Sea, but they were eventually pushed back. Its fair to assume to the swamp areas of southern morrowind, Deshaan

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