FANDOM


  • i once heard that pelinal was a robot from the future..any truth to that ?

      Loading editor
    • The idea first came from Kirkbride, so take that however you will.

      It is implied, though, in in-game sources. The Song of Pelinal, Volume 3, States "Pelinal called out Haromir of Copper and Tea into a duel at the Tor, and ate his neck-veins while screaming praise to Reman, a name that no one knew yet.", suggesting that Pelinal has either prophetic visions/knowledge or time travelling capabilities. The passage "he was Pelinal the Whitestrake because of his left hand, made of a killing light" is sometimes interpreted as reflected Pelinal's robotic nature.

      Although I can understand some people having some skepticism when it comes to what MK says (though I find outright rejecting him foolish), if I recall correctly, it was him who wrote the Song of Pelinal for Knights of the Nine, so his interpretation of the text should be acknowledged, and his in-game contributions when he was a developer can hardly be discarded. So I would say it is perfectly valid to say Pelinal is a time travelling robot.

        Loading editor
    • you know....i am really trying to understand the elder scrolls lore...and i know that Kirkbride did most of the lore but.......im starting to wonder if his lore constists of 2 shrooms a day...i mean dont get me wrong...most of the lore is genius but....robots,Futur , Computer systems...KIMUNE......i thougth elder scrolls was fantasy and shit .. .:C

      oh well thanks for awsering this question m8

        Loading editor
    • Of course. I'm the Terminator, after all.

      Seriously, now.

      But it's obvious that Pelinal Whitestrake is atleast a Cyborg, judging from his artificial/mythological heart. 

      As King of the North above said, it's also valid that he's a time traveller.

        Loading editor
    • Pelinal Whitestrake wrote:
      Of course. I'm the Terminator, after all.


      ..hmm....MAGIC !!!

        Loading editor
    • Pelinal had a heart of red ruby, possibly the Amulet of Kings. He was a cyborg as far as we know, and is from era 5 I believe (do not quote me on that).

      Another time traveling robot would be KINMUNE. You should look into it/her. It was a mining robot from era 5 that was transported back in time, and actually became a person.

        Loading editor
    • ShawnHowellsCP wrote:
      Pelinal had a heart of red ruby, possibly the Amulet of Kings.

      He was a cyborg as far as we know, and is from era 5 I believe (do not quote me on that).

      Another time traveling robot would be KINMUNE. You should look into it/her. It was a mining robot from era 5 that was transported back in time, and actually became a person.

      Actually, from the ninth era.

        Loading editor
    • nineth era...wut......im confused...

        Loading editor
    • Hank.j.Wimbleton wrote:
      nineth era...wut......im confused...

      "KINMUNE (Kinetically-Interlinked Nirnian Multi-User Exoform) started her existence as any other proxy-synthetic of the 9th Era aurbical mining guilds"

        Loading editor
    • THERE IS A NINETH ERA ?!

      ....whats next ... The Ihero ( made by apple )

        Loading editor
    • I respect kirkblade's ideas, but I don't think that a lot of the "hints" that MK lore is cannon are real. The passage that says that Peniel's hand is made from a "killer light" could be interpreted in many ways, not just that he's a robot. And as much as the ideas (or some of them) he put forth are cool, most of them just ruin the game for me. I still hold that CODA was written by Shangorath disguised as Kirkblade.

      I believe CHIM exists though.

        Loading editor
    • 72.74.78.185 wrote:
      I respect kirkblade's ideas, but I don't think that a lot of the "hints" that MK lore is cannon are real. The passage that says that Peniel's hand is made from a "killer light" could be interpreted in many ways, not just that he's a robot. And as much as the ideas (or some of them) he put forth are cool, most of them just ruin the game for me. I still hold that CODA was written by Shangorath disguised as Kirkblade.

      I believe CHIM exists though.

      I honestly hope that MK's lore isn't a cannon.

        Loading editor
    • he he...nice pun

        Loading editor
    • Hank.j.Wimbleton wrote:
      he he...nice pun

      Probably not a pun since the word is canon, but considering MK created Pelinal and wrote the story for Knights of the Nine, I'd take what he says about him to heart. He's a Shezarrine robot (or at least a cyborg) sent back in time by Kyne.

      CHIM is extensively talked about in the 36 Lessons of VIvec and in Mythic Dawn Commentaries. These were written by MK.

      C0DA, like almost every other one of MK's out of game writings, appears in game. Much of C0DA, or at least much of stuff it talks about, is featured across many books in ESO. It's hard to say that MK's work isn't canon since the devs keep putting it into their games right after he writes the stuff.

      For a good explanation as to why people should pay more attention to MK's work I point you to this thread .

      Also Pelinal, is that a Hist-ship impossipoint cannon?

        Loading editor
    • I feel like it's valid that he has some ability to travel time or at least see into it. He's very deeply tied to Akatosh, the chief god and god of time. So that's perfectly plausable. But a robot? Seriously? He may have some special divine abilities or may not be made of the parts that living organisms like humans or creatures are but a robot? That'd be plausable if he was a Dwemer, but he's not. At all. He's literally god-born. The gods could have enhanced his body to be less fradgile than humans, but still. He isn't a robot.

      On the time travelling note, I believe that this may be a conbtributing factor to his insanity. He probably saw things he shouldn't have. Maybe the future of violence and corruption drove him mad and hateful. But that's just a side note.

        Loading editor
    • KaitaAlabaster wrote: I feel like it's valid that he has some ability to travel time or at least see into it. He's very deeply tied to Akatosh, the chief god and god of time. So that's perfectly plausable. But a robot? Seriously? He may...

      He is absolutely robot, or at least a cyborg. The dude who invented him and wrote the Song of Pelinal confirmed it. Hard to really argue that. He's definitely a time traveling gay Shezarrine robot.

        Loading editor
    • Pelinal Whitestrake, magical crusading knight, random shezzarine, or killer cyborg from the future sent to ensure the survival of mankind?

      Gotta say, anyone who massacres elves is alright in my book, and I do think he was a cyborg rather than a robot, though perhaps he was advanced enough to go insane I suppose. Of course, his "cousin" was possibly weirder than he was.

        Loading editor
    • Hereticalthoughts wrote: Pelinal Whitestrake, magical crusading knight, random shezzarine, or killer cyborg from the future sent to ensure the survival of mankind?

      All of the above.

        Loading editor
    • Maybe the data of Landfall in the future and how the Thalmor cause it is the reason he is so genocidal to elves. He saw them destroy the world 

        Loading editor
    • 104.53.197.35 wrote:
      Maybe the data of Landfall in the future and how the Thalmor cause it is the reason he is so genocidal to elves. He saw them destroy the world 

      That's definitely a common theory. There's also a theory that he is actually a member of Ghost Chior and this was one place in time they came to to fix the future.

        Loading editor
    • Hank.j.Wimbleton wrote:
      i once heard that pelinal was a robot from the future..any truth to that ?

      Yes, for sure. #Necropost

        Loading editor
    • Yes, a gay elf-killing robot from the future

        Loading editor
    • He bled. If he had to be not human then i'd say he was a cyborg, not a robot.


      Although i'd like to think he is just a demi-god like being that transcends time and space.

        Loading editor
    • I think, that things like kinmune or like time-travelling cyborg just ruins all atmosphere,setting and lore. What's next? A stormcloacks fighting against imperials with guns ? Or a necromanscer casting rockets? You will say, what about Dwarves? And i will answer. They are so good iscribed in lore , that you just don't fell any disgust. TES is my favorite universe, and i won't accept the fact of its transformaton to the bullshit-setting  like final fantasy.

        Loading editor
    • Hey umm... freemaker858...  you DO realize they have airships down in elswyr (and yes this is cannon) and they have a snow elf thats over 2000 years olds (remember gelbor?) and also they now have both Sheogorath AND jygolaag (them being Exact oppistes). the stars and the sun being holes into aetherious (i killed that), AND need i remind you of Chim and zero-sum... yeah... nothing is impossible in the elder scrolls... espically the idea of a man-creation/cyborg (maybe). being flung into the past even with the help OF A TIME GOD MAYBE HMMM? ( *cough* *cough* akatosh *cough* *cough* alduin *cough*)... oh one more peice of lore DRAGON BREAK *drops the mic.*

        Loading editor
    • 2.98.34.205 wrote:
      He bled. If he had to be not human then i'd say he was a cyborg, not a robot.


      Although i'd like to think he is just a demi-god like being that transcends time and space.

      He was actually sent from the future by Kyne to help the rebellion, I'd assume that's why he killed any elf he saw, it was in his programming.

        Loading editor
    • I think he is just a durmmr automation

        Loading editor
    • Pelinal Whitestrike is really just Todd Howard when it just works.

        Loading editor
    • Michael Kirkbride needs to seriously lay off the skooma.

        Loading editor
    • Just putting this out there but cyborg typically means a human (or any living creature, really) that's been augmented (typically with advanced technology).  Where is a robot is 100% machine and is built.  To say that Pelinal was a time traveller and was augmented perhaps with technology that could even be similar to what the dwemer had access to, isn't so completely far-fetched.  That said I take any "lore" that I don't personally experience in-game with a grain of salt.  

      I really don't care if the same person who created Pelinal and wrote the lore said somewhere that the Divine Crusader is a cyborg (or robot), because if I don't see it in-game, it may as well not be canon.  "Killing Light" coming out of Pelinal's hand can also be interpreted in many different ways, given that any destruction or even certain restoration spells used in-game will manifest in the form of light which kills your enemies.

        Loading editor
    • The Elder Scrolls Universe has two sets of lore.

      There's Canon, which is what you see in the games and books, official canon material.

      And then there's Michael Kirkbride. I wouldn't exactly take everything Michael Kirkbride says too seriously if you're talking about canon. Kirkbride's stuff is amazing, and offers a unique insight into the metaphysics behind the universe of the Elder Scrolls. But if you're talking about canon, take his work with a grain of salt. 

      From these, you can build your own headcanon, and frankly I think that's the point Michael Kirkbride is trying to make. I think things like C0DA and his many writings in the Imperial Library are simply his own headcanon. Nothing more, nothing less. He has encouraged his readers to expand on and develop their own headcanon in the past. It's not to be taken literally. 



      As for Pelinal Whitestrake being a cyborg, I don't think there's any reason to actually believe that. Just because Kirkbride says it, that does not necessarily make it so. 

      That said, I'm totally running with KINMUNE as the Eye of Magnus in my headcanon. 

        Loading editor
    • A FANDOM user
        Loading editor
Give Kudos to this message
You've given this message Kudos!
See who gave Kudos to this message
Community content is available under CC-BY-SA unless otherwise noted.