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  • As you're aware, not that much is known about the mysterious Akavir continent as of yet, including its inhabiting races. Specially the powerful Kamals.

    Except that they're a vast race of terrible demons, frozen in their northern lands known as Snow Hell, where none dares to venture, and that every once in a while they awake and invade the southern regions and races. (aSoIaF, anyone? :D )

    But it is also known that they also invaded Tamriel once, more specifically the regions of Morrowind and Skyrim. Guess what place happens to border both of the regions?

    The island of Solstheim ofcourse. Home of most of the rare Frost Giants that have ever been spotted in Tamriel. Including the mighty Karstaag.

    Obviously the Kamal invasion was stopped and they were defeated. Though not without great efforts and losses and not without alliances between many powers and armies against them. But if some survived and lingered (which tends to happen in the case of invading armies) they would've been rare...

    Just sayin' :)

    (Another reason why it would be interesting if TESVI took place in Akavir, no?)

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    • There are also quite a few of them in the Forgotten Vale.

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    • aye, maybe, but even more rare, no?

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    • IF there is ever anything revealed by the devs on what the Akaviri races look like, then that could shed some light on the subject.

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    • Karstaag the offspring from a Kamal Demon and a she-giant, or a Kamal himself. That'd be cool, eh? :D

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    • Karstaag is from Atmora, like all giants. His race is literally called the Karstaag-Men and Karstaag himself fought alongside Ysgramor.

      However, I like to think this guy is a Kamal.

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    • Even Frost Giants are confirmedly from Atmora?

      I didnt know all of that about Karstaag. But I havent played Dragonborn dlc yet so I'll take your word.

      Havent played Dawnstar either but hey, Gehenoth Thriceborn (from the 'Ice Tribes'?) looks pretty demonic :D

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    • Dovahsebrom wrote:
      Karstaag is from Atmora, like all giants. His race is literally called the Karstaag-Men and Karstaag himself fought alongside Ysgramor.

      However, I like to think this guy is a Kamal.

      Have you ever considered that Frost Giants aren't actual Giants, but are just called Frost Giants because they are HUGE and use Frost to their advantage?  They might be descendents of the Kamal, just less or more evolved Giants, or something entirely different. However that Monstrosity that you posted a link to might very well be a Kamal.

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    • Raven biter 114 wrote:

      Have you ever considered that Frost Giants aren't actual Giants, but are just called Frost Giants because they are HUGE and use Frost to their advantage?  They might be descendents of the Kamal, just less or more evolved Giants, or something entirely different. However that Monstrosity that you posted a link to might very well be a Kamal.

      "The fleet proper included the following Heroes, and they were guarded by the giant karstaag-men who walked the under-ice, the Nine Storms"

      "Despite the swinging lamps of the karstaags, great horns were often blasted from one boat-caller to another to keep the Row of Succession on their proper bearings"

      -The Five Hundred Mighty Companions or Thereabouts of Ysgramor the Returned

      "none escaped in whole thereafter, even those with blood of the karstaag. Kinmune always took a portion of her proxies’ power and mystery. It was this last act that doomed her to becoming one of the Arena’s most feared villains. High King Ysgramor took the loss of the Dumb Old Giant"

      -KINMUNE
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    • Ah yes ... KINMUNE ... the out-of-game character ... the Terminatrix ... the legendary elf queen of old who was actually a, well, freakin future robot ... defeated by enchanted weapons of wasabi ... wasabi... Ok, well, her very creative, interesting and entertainment 'story' certainly is a valid source of information I guess. The 500 Companions moreso. Kaarstags, friends of nords, eh? Long ago.

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    • Dovahsebrom wrote:
      Raven biter 114 wrote:

      Have you ever considered that Frost Giants aren't actual Giants, but are just called Frost Giants because they are HUGE and use Frost to their advantage?  They might be descendents of the Kamal, just less or more evolved Giants, or something entirely different. However that Monstrosity that you posted a link to might very well be a Kamal.

      "The fleet proper included the following Heroes, and they were guarded by the giant karstaag-men who walked the under-ice, the Nine Storms"

      "Despite the swinging lamps of the karstaags, great horns were often blasted from one boat-caller to another to keep the Row of Succession on their proper bearings"

      -The Five Hundred Mighty Companions or Thereabouts of Ysgramor the Returned

      "none escaped in whole thereafter, even those with blood of the karstaag. Kinmune always took a portion of her proxies’ power and mystery. It was this last act that doomed her to becoming one of the Arena’s most feared villains. High King Ysgramor took the loss of the Dumb Old Giant"

      -KINMUNE

      Okay, you have some valid points there.  I think that Frost Giants could be from Atmora.  I don't really consider MK's writings canon, but that could be somehow a legitamite statement.  I will try to look what karstaag means.

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    • Dovahsebrom wrote:
      Karstaag is from Atmora, like all giants. His race is literally called the Karstaag-Men and Karstaag himself fought alongside Ysgramor.

      However, I like to think this guy is a Kamal.

      Wow need to pay kmore attention to the travels franchise, i also believe the ice tribes in generala re the kamal 

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