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  • In Morrowind, when you save Vvardenfell from the Corpus and Dagoth Ur, was it all pointless, because when you do your thing with the Heart, doesn't that cause the Red Mountain to erupt later, rendering all of your efforts pointless anyway. Vvardenfell would have been destroyed/rendered inhospitable either way.

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    • The eruption wasn't directly linked to the removal of the Heart of Lorkhan. It's main cause was the Ministry of Truth (Baar Dau) crashing into Vivec. The Heart did cause it... indirectly: by the removal of the Heart, Vivec became mortal, and so dissappeared. Because he was gone, his power was not there to keep Baar Dau from falling, even though a new system was implicated to keep it up (which failed).

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    • Caractacus IV wrote:
      The eruption wasn't directly linked to the removal of the Heart of Lorkhan. It's main cause was the Ministry of Truth (Baar Dau) crashing into Vivec. The Heart did cause it... indirectly: by the removal of the Heart, Vivec became mortal, and so dissappeared. Because he was gone, his power was not there to keep Baar Dau from falling, even though a new system was implicated to keep it up (which failed).

      Wait, did all three become mortal, or was is just Vivec?

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    • They were all mortal: Almalexia went crazy and killed Sotha Sil, you (Nerevarine) killed Almalexia, and Vivec "dissappeared". This was one of the prime reasons the Dunmer went back to Daedra worship.

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    • Vvardenfell would either be destroyed by the Red Mountain erupting or by the Blight and Dagoth Ur. However I believe that Dagoth Ur was worse. He would taken not just Morrowind but possibly all of Tamriel. However the Red Mountain was much worse for the Dunmer as their race was almost destroyed. I've always felt connected with the Dark Elves so I can't play Dragonborn, it brings tears to my eyes...

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    • As to your debate on how Vvardenfell would be destroyed either way, which do you think is worse: Having the Dunmer die firey and ash-choked deaths, or have them be the mindless, diseased slaves of a crazy chimer? And plus, it's not unreasonable to think that Vvardenfell might become inhabitable sometime in the future.

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    • Sorry, forgot about the Tribunal Expansion, it's been forever since I played Morrowind, and you are right, the Red Mountain would be a better fate.

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    • Caractacus IV wrote:
      As to your debate on how Vvardenfell would be destroyed either way, which do you think is worse: Having the Dunmer die firey and ash-choked deaths, or have them be the mindless, diseased slaves of a crazy chimer? And plus, it's not unreasonable to think that Vvardenfell might become inhabitable sometime in the future.

      I understand what you mean but Dagoth Ur is eventually the worse option. He would affect all of Tamriel with the blight, and with his Numidium number two take Tamriel over. The Dunmer would survive, so saying because they would be at the forefront of Dagoth's power system while the Red Mountain isn't real picky that its killing the native inhabitants. More so than Dagoth could ever be.

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    • Dagoth Ur is the worse option, that was what I was trying to say. At least falling into lava is quick...

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    • Caractacus IV wrote:
      Dagoth Ur is the worse option, that was what I was trying to say. At least falling into lava is quick...

      Ah good point. The quick and relatively painless death by lava. (Note: not being sarcastic). However what I meant is that the Red Mountain is a worse for the Dunmer themselves. Dagoth Ur wouldn't slaughter any loyal Dunmer and many would join with him. The Cammona Tong, several Ashlanders would actually find his ideals quite attractive, even the great houses could be 'persuaded' to join. Smugglers already work for him. In this we see the genius of Dagoth's plan. He has allied himself to several Vvardenfell powerhouses. So the Dunmer won't die if they join Dagoth Ur. They'll eventually become mutated, twisted creatures.

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    • But then again, Red Mountain erupting did cover most of the rest of Morrowind and Solsteim with Ash. But here's something to think about, what if both events happened? Pretty sure the Blight would have spread even worse than ever thought possible.

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    • Caractacus IV wrote:
      But then again, Red Mountain erupting did cover most of the rest of Morrowind and Solsteim with Ash. But here's something to think about, what if both events happened? Pretty sure the Blight would have spread even worse than ever thought possible.


      Hmmm. The eruption of the Red Mountain would possibly destroy the heart of Lorkhan and kill Dagoth Ur. This would end his threat  but the remaining servants would charge out in a frenzied attempt to conquer Vvardenfell. This will fail.

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    • But aren't the servants bound by Dagoth Ur's/The Heart's power? I mean, he did create the Blight and Corprus; and anyway I'm just talking about fallout from the eruption infecting the rest of Tamriel with such diseases.

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    • It would be bad with both, but it wouldn't have happened with both. The explosion was caused by (indirectly) the removal of the heart.

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    • But what if the blight still existed in Dagoth Ur (the region)? Wouldn't it have spread to the rest of Morrowind?

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    • If it did, theoretically, maybe. Did the ash have the capabilit to kill the disease? And in all the areas where the ash hit, wouldn't have most people, or at the very least, settlements, have been wiped out?

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    • I doubt the ash would have wiped out the blight or corprus since that was how it was transmitted. And also, Morrowind is a big place, if some of the lesser-known settlements dissappeared they might go unnoticed. It would be like Old Hroldan being destroyed from Skyrim, not many people might notice.

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    • Please, pleeease hold on a minute!

      Let's be a bit optimistic, shall we ??

      How about the eruption not been as bad as first thought... after all, the eruption in The Lord of the Rings, did not destroyed Middle Earth !

      Second, that Telvanni Wizard (forgot the name), that was already searching for a cure, could have found it eventually, could he not ??

      So everything is well, when it ends well - slavery was abolished (but not erradicated) + House Redoran rules (but meets some resistence) + House Hlaalu fells in disgrace (but survives as always) + House Telvanni learns its lesson and stops being so xenophobic (but not entirely) and so on and so forth.

      In my opinion, this is more according to life - hard, treacherous, unfair but always moving on !!

      Bets wishes to all.

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    • Sorry but there's now a rather large hole where Vivec city was and most of the island was covered in hot smothering ash causing the survivors to flee to the coast. Then the Argonians attacked while the Dunmer were vulnerable causing more fleeing this time to the mainland and Solstheim. Remember though Vvardenfell the land from the game Morrowind is only about half of the Dunmers land and the mainland of Morrowind was safe from most of the eruption.

      As for Divayth Fyr's cure for corprus it wasn't really a actual cure anyone else he tried it on died it only (kinda) worked on the player because they're "protected by prophecy".

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    • 86.147.72.112 wrote: Sorry but there's now a rather large hole where Vivec city was and most of the island was covered in hot smothering ash causing the survivors to flee to the coast. Then the Argonians attacked while the Dunmer were vulnerable causing more fleeing this time to the mainland and Solstheim. Remember though Vvardenfell the land from the game Morrowind is only about half of the Dunmers land and the mainland of Morrowind was safe from most of the eruption.

      As for Divayth Fyr's cure for corprus it wasn't really a actual cure anyone else he tried it on died it only (kinda) worked on the player because they're "protected by prophecy".

      The cure could have worked because Corpus stopped being a problem soon after.

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    • 58.7.145.230 wrote:

      86.147.72.112 wrote: Sorry but there's now a rather large hole where Vivec city was and most of the island was covered in hot smothering ash causing the survivors to flee to the coast. Then the Argonians attacked while the Dunmer were vulnerable causing more fleeing this time to the mainland and Solstheim. Remember though Vvardenfell the land from the game Morrowind is only about half of the Dunmers land and the mainland of Morrowind was safe from most of the eruption.

      As for Divayth Fyr's cure for corprus it wasn't really a actual cure anyone else he tried it on died it only (kinda) worked on the player because they're "protected by prophecy".

      The cure could have worked because Corpus stopped being a problem soon after.

      Corprus stopped being a problem because it's power came from the Heart of Lorkhan.

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    • Raven biter 114 wrote:
      Caractacus IV wrote:
      The eruption wasn't directly linked to the removal of the Heart of Lorkhan. It's main cause was the Ministry of Truth (Baar Dau) crashing into Vivec. The Heart did cause it... indirectly: by the removal of the Heart, Vivec became mortal, and so dissappeared. Because he was gone, his power was not there to keep Baar Dau from falling, even though a new system was implicated to keep it up (which failed).
      Wait, did all three become mortal, or was is just Vivec?


      All three, well four. Every one of them took some power from Hearth.

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    • Caractacus IV wrote:
      58.7.145.230 wrote:

      86.147.72.112 wrote: Sorry but there's now a rather large hole where Vivec city was and most of the island was covered in hot smothering ash causing the survivors to flee to the coast. Then the Argonians attacked while the Dunmer were vulnerable causing more fleeing this time to the mainland and Solstheim. Remember though Vvardenfell the land from the game Morrowind is only about half of the Dunmers land and the mainland of Morrowind was safe from most of the eruption.

      As for Divayth Fyr's cure for corprus it wasn't really a actual cure anyone else he tried it on died it only (kinda) worked on the player because they're "protected by prophecy".

      The cure could have worked because Corpus stopped being a problem soon after.
      Corprus stopped being a problem because it's power came from the Heart of Lorkhan.

      Corprus stopped infecting cuz it was created by Dagoth Ur, and Dagoth Ur died.

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    • Pieniadz9 wrote:
      Caractacus IV wrote:
      58.7.145.230 wrote:

      86.147.72.112 wrote: Sorry but there's now a rather large hole where Vivec city was and most of the island was covered in hot smothering ash causing the survivors to flee to the coast. Then the Argonians attacked while the Dunmer were vulnerable causing more fleeing this time to the mainland and Solstheim. Remember though Vvardenfell the land from the game Morrowind is only about half of the Dunmers land and the mainland of Morrowind was safe from most of the eruption.

      As for Divayth Fyr's cure for corprus it wasn't really a actual cure anyone else he tried it on died it only (kinda) worked on the player because they're "protected by prophecy".

      The cure could have worked because Corpus stopped being a problem soon after.
      Corprus stopped being a problem because it's power came from the Heart of Lorkhan.
      Corprus stopped infecting cuz it was created by Dagoth Ur, and Dagoth Ur died.

      And Dagoth Ur died because the only thing keeping him alive was the power he siphoned from the Heart of Lorkhan. Well, actually, the removal of the Heart would have just made him mortal but we know he didn't make it out when the Anumidium came crashing down.

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    • Pieniadz9 wrote:
      Caractacus IV wrote:
      58.7.145.230 wrote:

      86.147.72.112 wrote: Sorry but there's now a rather large hole where Vivec city was and most of the island was covered in hot smothering ash causing the survivors to flee to the coast. Then the Argonians attacked while the Dunmer were vulnerable causing more fleeing this time to the mainland and Solstheim. Remember though Vvardenfell the land from the game Morrowind is only about half of the Dunmers land and the mainland of Morrowind was safe from most of the eruption.

      As for Divayth Fyr's cure for corprus it wasn't really a actual cure anyone else he tried it on died it only (kinda) worked on the player because they're "protected by prophecy".

      The cure could have worked because Corpus stopped being a problem soon after.
      Corprus stopped being a problem because it's power came from the Heart of Lorkhan.
      Corprus stopped infecting cuz it was created by Dagoth Ur, and Dagoth Ur died.


      Yes the power imbued upon him by the Heart is how he created it. Just as surely as removing the Heart killed DU, it also killed the Blight/Corpus disease.

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    • Much happiness is from learning our path. Goodness coming to people who do the right thing anyway. Nobody is knowing what we haven't given, but we know in our hearts what is right.

      Thank you for revelation of this intrigue.

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