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  • I hate the Thieves Guild, the Black Briar's and Riften's corruption. There should be a questline to stop it. Even my thief character doesn't want to be involved in the extortion in the first quest of the thieves guild. In the next Elder Scrolls there should be a hold-guard questline to stop evil guilds. You can kill the Dark Brotherhood, why not the thieves guild?

    Any suggestions of cool questlines fighting the thieves guild?

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    • Perhaps tracking them down - they all hide and scatter, bribing people to lie to you, and you've gotta find the corrupt guards or do it without Riften(or Hammerfell or wherever)'s help. 

      Perhaps combine it with Destroy the Dark Brotherhood, or if you're part of it, you convince them to help you not Maven, unless you're the Listener.

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    • That would be good.

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    • Thanks. Do you have any ideas?

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    • Stealing Frost should be one way to start it. That or Shadr's quest help thing. Something like those in the next game, help somebody deal with their corrupt people problems or help a rival gang that's slightly more friendly (e.g. less extortion).

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    • I like the idea about a rival gang. Maybe the rival group is very Robin Hood-y, and good hearted and stuff.

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    • I believe so too. If you can destroy the Dark Brotherhood, you should be able to get rid of the Thieves Guild too.

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    • I have an inventory full of stolen Items and I can't sell them because the thieves guild is the only mob on the market.

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    • Orc named sue wrote:
      I have an inventory full of stolen Items and I can't sell them because the thieves guild is the only mob on the market.

      Hmm...you wanna get rid of the thieves but you've stolen a ton of stuff yourself...

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    • I think it's fine to steal things, as long as it's from a rich asshole that probably doesn't deserve it anyway. I liked the thieves guild in Oblivion more than Skyrim, they were Robin-Hoody and noble, and not local thugs that bullied the populace, serving the wealthy. 

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    • I like that the thieves guild in Skyrim is different to the one in Oblivion. Shows us that thieves are still thieves. They aren't all "good" thieves even within the same group. 

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    • Yeah, the Skyrim thieves are daedra worshipping (Not really a good daedra, either) and extort money from people. Saphirre's effing up Shadr's shiz and Brynjolf's putting Brand-Shei in jail pisses me off. I steal from guards of the opposite civil war faction and people who deserve it, like Nazeem.

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    • Orc named sue wrote:
      and people who deserve it, like Nazeem.

      But does Nazeem really deserve it? Yeah he's a bit of a dick but that isn't a reason to steal from him. 

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    • He makes more money than he knows what to do with. He doesn't necessarily deserve to be stolen from, but it affects him less than the poor people you pickpocket emeralds from in the thieves guild.

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    • If you're on the PC theres a mod that lets you kill them or throw them in Jail, Maven too. Otherwise you're out of luck (yes I think there should have been that option in vanilla too)

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    • Destroy the Thieves Guild to kill or Disband the Thieves Guild to arrest (and even rehabilitate). I do like the way the kill mod is very similar to Destroy the Dark Brotherhood but with Mjoll taking Maro's part in the quest.

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    • Orc named sue wrote:
      He makes more money than he knows what to do with. He doesn't necessarily deserve to be stolen from, but it affects him less than the poor people you pickpocket emeralds from in the thieves guild.


      Regarless of morality theres no real reason why the Dragonborn should owe any allegiance to these cut throats and vermin, apart from TG fences to offload your loot, and even then theres a perk that let you sell any stolen item to any merchant so even thats not necessary. There is afterall, as the saying goes, no honour amongst thieves.

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    • Personally I see the entire Thieves Guild as someone's baby. One that they worked really really hard on and couldn't deal with the idea that some players might want to kill off all the charaters they had worked so hard on. I really hate in these games how some NPC's are just immortal, no matter what I do they won't die. I'm sorry but if I decide to walk into Riften as a vampire lord and make it a ghost town I should be able to do exactly that. Not be forced to deal with Maven and her family. Sure I can just avoid Riften, but that just kills the immersion for me. That and invisble walls, but thats a different conversation. Frankly, once the main quest is complete and Alduin is dead, I don't think anyone should be labeled as essential. Because they aren't, world is saved, everything is good, if I want to screw myself out of a few word walls thats my business. And yes I know about the mods but mods are pretty much fan fiction, I'd prefer it if Bethesda themselves recognized this issue and let us do what we wanted rather than being forced to either ignore or work with.  Hopefully, Bethesda will have learned from Skyrim and we will be able to do whatever we want in Fallout 4. (one more month people oh thank the gods.)

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    • wow you guys really hate the thieves guild

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    • It's not that we hate the thieves guild, it's that we want a different option for those characters who are aligned with good and order, rather than chaos.

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    • I don't hate the people, I hate making Talen Jei and Bersi hate me and I hate the fact that I have to join a cult to continue in the story. Also, there's no way to help stop the corruption in Riften and the thieves guild is a big part of that corruption.

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    • I think the reason why they didn't include an option to Destroy the Thieves Guild is because they clearly put a lot of time and effort into developing the storyline and side quests, as opposed to the Dark Brotherhood. With the DB, is always kill this and kill that.

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    • i say if you can destroy the brotherhood you should be able to destroy the theives DEATH TO THE BLACK-BRIARS!!!

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    • Nobody

      I like the new theives guild.

      It gives you a chance to create a hero character who isn't a goody two shoes. In Oblivion all the guilds are good besides the Dark Brotherhood.

      But in Skyrim you have the option of being a thug and not be a total goody goody. I joined the companions, college of winter hold, destroyed the Dark Brotherhood, and I joined the thieves guild so I'm not a typhical boring all good hero. Balancing is important after all.

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    • Quick thing on brand shei, you can tell brynjolf you lost the ring and the quest will keep going

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    • I agree. Dark Brotherhood can be defeted why not Thieves Guild and Black-Briars? It would also make Mjoll more useful. 

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    • and how are you going to get a really high gold payout???

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    • Not that I hate the thieves guild. Or even particularly hate Maven. I simply don't like the "authority" she's trying to exort over the DB. DB made Alduin explode (and then implode). Some lowlife shouldn't be untouchable. Especially after DB is Listener and Thieves Guild master. I am the Listener. I will murder anybody I want. Where I want. When I want. Maven included.

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    • 78.247.80.89 wrote:
      Not that I hate the thieves guild. Or even particularly hate Maven. I simply don't like the "authority" she's trying to exort over the DB. DB made Alduin explode (and then implode). Some lowlife shouldn't be untouchable. Especially after DB is Listener and Thieves Guild master. I am the Listener. I will murder anybody I want. Where I want. When I want. Maven included.

      DB made alduin explode??

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