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  • As there are many posts regarding which Side is better to join for Skyrim's Civil War. I figured to do something different.

    Instead of limiting yourself to A or B. Stormcloaks or Imperials. We'll use a Lore perspective what the Dragonborn can do to truly benefit Skyrim, perhaps Empire and harm the Aldmeri Dominion's chances in the next War.

    Let the brain storm begins!

    (PS: This thread will not satisfy with defeating the Stormcloaks or driving the Empire out of Skyrim alone.)

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    • I will start with what needs to be done. This is an extremely difficult path to follow.

      This path has an extremely strict requirement of things that needs to happen in the first place. Number 1, the Dragonborn must be a strategic genius at a level where he can use less than what Ulfric has at his disposal and destroy the entire Empire. Another condition is Hermaeus Mora must not have trapped him in Apocrypha or have this Dragonborn at his control.

      Based on the 3E 421 Levitation Act by the Empire, use of Levitation spell was banned but nothing was said about Teleportation spells such as Mark and Recall. Meaning such teleportation spells must be available in the College or accessible by Dragonbon in Skyrim.

      Dragonborn must have at least 5 to 7 years spend in Skyrim therefore, you must give the Thalmor what they want to make Thalmor stay hands off without truly benefiting them. This means you must permit the Civil War to go on but perform damage control at the same time. The most preferable scenario is to create a confusion resulting in an uneasy cold war between the Stormcloaks, Imperials and the Thalmor.

      One way he can achieve this is to do a very daring thing with the Guilds. Something that has not been done in the past before, by becoming the unified Leader of all the Guilds and Thane of every Hold. This gives the Dragonborn influence in every part of Skyrim.

      Since the Lore says nothing about banning Mark and Recall Teleportation spells, the Dragonborn after becoming the Archmage of the College can get his mages to help him setup a Mark and Recall Network system across Skyrim. The Dragonborn can even use Heljarchen Hall as a base, eventually refurbish it into a Skyrim Guild Council Headquarters is not impossible.

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    • First of all let's exclude the Dragonborn because Heroes depart after their prophecies are fulfilled. By the time a Second Great War can rear its head, the Dragonborn will be long gone. This has been the case with every Hero, and for good out-of-setting reasons:  Writers cannot account for every player's characterisation of a particular Hero. Some players' Dragonborn may be Thalmor sympathisers or Altmeri Supremacists.

      The Empire is the only thing that can defeat the Dominion. Hell, there's already a cold war going on right now between them as stated by Tullius, Rikke and Ondolemar. The White-Gold Concordat itself is just a mask of "peace" the Empire and the Dominion wear, they both know they'll be going at it again real soon.

      Now let's take a look of what you said one by one:

      This path has an extremely strict requirement of things that needs to happen in the first place. Number 1, the Dragonborn must be a strategic genius at a level where he can use less than what Ulfric has at his disposal and destroy the entire Empire. Another condition is Hermaeus Mora must not have trapped him in Apocrypha or have this Dragonborn at his control.

      It's difficult to immagine the Dragonborn being a strategic genius. About Hermaeus Mora, no daedric prince can claim your soul unless you are trading for it.

      Dragonborn must have at least 5 to 7 years spend in Skyrim therefore, you must give the Thalmor what they want to make Thalmor stay hands off without truly benefiting them. This means you must permit the Civil War to go on but perform damage control at the same time. The most preferable scenario is to create a confusion resulting in an uneasy cold war between the Stormcloaks, Imperials and the Thalmor.

      There's already a cold war going on right now between the Empire and the Dominion. Also the Dragonborn doing damage control would make him enemy of these 3 factions.

      One way he can achieve this is to do a very daring thing with the Guilds. Something that has not been done in the past before, by becoming the unified Leader of all the Guilds and Thane of every Hold. This gives the Dragonborn influence in every part of Skyrim.

      In a realistic scenario it's impossible to be the leader of all guilds. And how can the Dragonborn be the thane of every hold?

      Since the Lore says nothing about banning Mark and Recall Teleportation spells, the Dragonborn after becoming the Archmage of the College can get his mages to help him setup a Mark and Recall Network system across Skyrim. The Dragonborn can even use Heljarchen Hall as a base, eventually refurbish it into a Skyrim Guild Council Headquarters is not impossible.

      The mages of the college wouldn't agree with that because they are neutral and the college exists to one purpose: to study magic.

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    • The statement that heroes depart after the only applies to the province and

      Actually as part of the main quest the Dragonborn was already confirmed to be the Thane of Whiterun and the option to go to Falkreath to listen to its Jarl was opened then there was the Hearthfire DLC. In a realistic scenario you can have a hand in every single guild, possess so much power that people have to work with you whether they like you or not or risk tearing your guild apart.

      Making enemies with all 3 factions is what you'll end up doing at one point. It is one of the top priorities in the Must do List. But you fail immediately if you caused all three factions to attack you at once. Because the whole idea is to make each factions wary of the other and not dare to make a move. Create a stalemate scenario not between AD and Empire but between Stormcloaks and Imperials. Disrupting the momentum created by the Thalmor.

      You are too quick to assume just because the Mages of College of Winterhold are neutral and they are interested in furthering their study of magic, they wouldn't help their New Archmage setup a very convenient and efficient Mark and Recall Network system that has far more pros and barely any cons. Immediate beneficial effect of a large scale teleportation network like this is that a network like this is a project that is worth maintaining to study and to cut down travel time meaning they can also go get materials for studies or experimentations that can only be found in specific parts of Skyrim that'll realistically take weeks or even months to get to instantly.

      The Mages have every reason to be enthusiastic about creating a highly effective system of traveling for granting convenience and research purposes.

      I do agree it is difficult to picture the Dragonborn to be genius strategist. As for Hermaeus Mora, personally I think he just wants to use the Dragonborn to gather more knowledge since Mora can't discover new knowledge or show any history of discovering new knowledge on his own.

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    • Personally? I would take the Thalmor dossier on Ulfric, bring just Tulius and Ulfric to talk, inform them of the dossier and the Thalmor's plan, which would most likely unify the Imperial and Stormcloak armies. The combined forces would be more than enough to raid and eliminate the Thalmor forces in the Embassy and elsewhere in Skyrim. The information will then be delivered to the emperor (or the lord regent, depentant on whether or not the Dragonborn killed the emperor). The Dragonborn will then lead a combined Imperial-Stormcloak assault on the Summerset Isles, and either destroy the Aldmeri Dominion or force them into a treaty. 

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    • 108.180.76.126 wrote:
      Personally? I would take the Thalmor dossier on Ulfric, bring just Tulius and Ulfric to talk, inform them of the dossier and the Thalmor's plan, which would most likely unify the Imperial and Stormcloak armies. The combined forces would be more than enough to raid and eliminate the Thalmor forces in the Embassy and elsewhere in Skyrim. The information will then be delivered to the emperor (or the lord regent, depentant on whether or not the Dragonborn killed the emperor). The Dragonborn will then lead a combined Imperial-Stormcloak assault on the Summerset Isles, and either destroy the Aldmeri Dominion or force them into a treaty. 

      That wouldn't work. The Thalmor could easily say the dossier was forged to make them look bad. In their defence the Thalmor would say "anyone can write anything in a piece of paper and say it's a dossier written by us".

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    • 108.180.76.126 wrote:
      Personally? I would take the Thalmor dossier on Ulfric, bring just Tulius and Ulfric to talk, inform them of the dossier and the Thalmor's plan, which would most likely unify the Imperial and Stormcloak armies. The combined forces would be more than enough to raid and eliminate the Thalmor forces in the Embassy and elsewhere in Skyrim. The information will then be delivered to the emperor (or the lord regent, depentant on whether or not the Dragonborn killed the emperor). The Dragonborn will then lead a combined Imperial-Stormcloak assault on the Summerset Isles, and either destroy the Aldmeri Dominion or force them into a treaty. 

      It will just become another propaganda tool by the Empire to kill Ulfric. The salty In-game Stormcloak supporters will become divided, those who remain by Ulfric side and those who turn away from him.

      Overall I see that benefiting the Empire more.

      To truly harm the Thalmor's position? Let's see, Dragonborn smuggles in barrels of Gunpowder from Hammerfell and detonate enough of it at the Thalmor embassy to blow the whole thing up while Elenwen and a large number of Thalmor are inside.

      Before the other Thalmor realized what was going on, proceed to various Thalmor controlled Camps/Forts/Prisons and slaughter as many Thalmor as you can. By severely crippling their available manpower within Skyrim, the Thalmor's knowledge of what was going on in Skyrim will be hampered and as information is their greatest weapon against the Empire in Skyrim, it will harm their position.

      As for everything else mentioned by people here, Mark and Recall spells as I remembered was replaced by the Fast Travel system, meaning when writing a story sequel they can add it back when dealing with Mages but I see the Thalmor top lieutenants more likely to use the spells than anyone else. After all, majority of the Stormcloaks and Imperials in Skyrim are country bumpkins who'll probably set themselves on fire and die if they try to use the spells.

      (Tullius & Ulfric tries to use Mark and Recall, spell complicated beyond their peanut sized brains, spell exploded both catches fire)

      Tullius&Ulfric "Aaaah Help! Help! I'm on fire!! Aaaah Help!!!" 

      (Both dies, Civil War ends with stalemate)

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    • i have an idea for a mission "Satan's Scar"

      you have to sneak into the homes of high ranking thalmor, use their fireplaces to heat your blade, then inscribe the symbol of talos onto their hands, wait until next morning, and watch the thalmor fall apart. 

      MuahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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    • or send an army of dremora(if youve met sanguine), ask paarthurnax(for those who hadnt murdered him), learn the "dragon resurection" shout and put alduin in the middle of the thalmor HQ

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    • Maybe useless if wars?! Not many Thalmor evil? Because two young agent of Thalmor try help to peace with elf & human. Ambriel Septim(forgotten cassynder sister) same want peace with human beacuse she half elf & human, also remain septim family but she change freedom not become empress. After with dragonborn battle defeated sithis. If continue wars maybe like Cyrodiil or first alessian empire/ aleid era. If have VIGILANT mod maybe understand why wars is useless?!

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    • The issue is, that with the mere existance of the Civil War, the Empire is doomed to the Thalmor.

      Let's say the Stormcloaks win, regardless of if the Dragonborn helps them canonically or not. Skyrim secedes from the Empire and becomes it's own nation. For one, they lose to the Admeri Dominion, no contest. Ulfric and his sword-and-shield-only men can't compare to the might of an army of magic wielding Elves who have previously taken out the Empire when it was much stronger than it is now. The Stormcloaks can barely beat the Empire in it's weakened state now. So, the Stormcloaks free Skyrim, get destroyed by the Thalmor, and Skyrim becomes another province in the Aldmeri Dominion.

      Secondly, the Empire is now just two provinces: Cyrodil and High Rock, neither of which are connected to eachother in any way, except for by water. The Empire is also battered, losing it's recruitment of men from Skyrim and having suffered casualties from the Civil War. It's an extremely easy target for the Thalmor to defeat and disband.

      So, if the Stormcloaks win, Tamriel would most likely end up in Admeri Dominion control. However, it ends up as a similar situation if the Empire wins. Stormcloak rebels are still running around Skyrim, and could potentially be coerced into helping the Thalmor under the guise of revenge for the Civil War. And though the Empire does have recruitment possibilities from Skyrim now, they are still battered from the Civil War and an easy target for destruction.

      Keep in mind, the Aldmeri Dominion was able to defeat the Empire when the Empire was at peace, and had their usual standing army at mostly full strength. And while the Empire has been trying to keep itself together via the Civil War, the Thalmor have not only been sitting back and watching, but potentially bolstering their own ranks, secretly planning a second invasion once the Civil War is at it's end.

      Also, destroying the Skyrim Embassy isn't going to do anything but piss the Thalmor off. Sacking the Embasy isn't invading Windhelm, it's taking over Fort Greenwall, so to speak. Embasador Elenwen is as much a leader in the Thalmor as Legate Rikke is a leader in the Empire.

      TL;DR: Regardless of which side wins the Civil War, the Thalmor can easily invade the injured Empire and take over. If the Stormcloaks win, it just makes their job easier.

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    • All of these replies so far are interesting reads, but there are a few corrections and addendums to make (Fair Warning: You will see some Empire-bias).

      - Technically, besides the Main Quests, a few other aspects of both the Nerevarine (Hero of TES3) & the Champion of Cyrodiil (Hero of TES4) have been canonized. The Nerevarine is acknowledged as a male Dunmer, Neloth is still alive in the 4th Era [meaning the House Telvanni questline wasn't completed], and Almalexia is dead [so the "Tribunal" expansion is definitely canon]. The Champion of Cyrodiil is confirmed to have become the new Sheogorath, and the character himself confirms that he [briefly] became both the Gray Fox of the Cyrodiil Thieves' Guild branch, and the Listener of the Dark Brotherhood.  As for what other events or details besides the Main Quest could possibly be officially canonized for the Last Dragonborn? We obviously don't know yet.

      - It should be noted that if you complete the Thieves' Guild questline, this indirectly helps the Empire, as Maven Black-Briar outright states that she has connections to the Empire that allow for said guild to survive even in relative destitution; so apparently by helping Maven establish a monopoly in the meadery business, replacing Honningbrew Mead with Black-Briar Mead, you've just established one source of steady income for the Imperial war effort. In short, helping the Thieves' Guild is helping the Legion.

      - In Markarth, helping Madanach and his Forsworn followers escape Cidhna Mine is actually the best possible result for the Last Dragonborn's involvement; Not only does he/she gain allies among the Reachmen, but Thonar Silver-Blood is dead in this scenario. Additionally, if you do "Season Unending" before joining the Imperials in the Civil War & select Markarth to trade with the Stormcloaks for Riften, you've [most efficiently] killed three birds with one stone; Thongvor Silver-Blood removes the Thalmor agents from the keep, but is immediately removed himself after becoming "Jarl" so there's no more Silver-Bloods left in control either, and meanwhile the Rift is taken without any bloodshed.

      - While it is realistically impossible to be leader of all guilds (or even join all of them in the first place; considering obligations to each guild), you need to join all of them if you want access to certain Word Walls. The Last Dragonborn is unable to learn every single Word of Power in the game without joining all guilds (...or using console commands, but whatever).

      - Yes, not all Thalmor are necessarily "evil", as both Runil & Ondolemar have demonstrated (spoilers for the former if you haven't read his private journal). His duty is to root out Talos worship, but he indulges in answering your questions and even becomes your friend if you help him (to the point he's willing to help create a distraction). Ondolemar may be on the opposing side, but the only thing making him "bad" is his indoctrination, otherwise he has nothing against the common people living in the Empire. It is however undeniable that the Thalmor organization as a whole has committed atrocities, as Fasendil and Malborn [and even the "Rising Threat" books] hint at.

      - It should also be noted that if Tullius' Legion somehow loses the Civil War, there's another Imperial Legion poised to invade Skyrim. Tullius' Legion may be the Empire's best chance right now, but it's not their "only" chance.

      - Straight from Ulfric Stormcloak's own mouth, the Stormcloaks are no match for the full might of Cyrodiil. Even if they "win" the Civil War, they'd lose to the Empire anyway.

      - General Tullius is noted to be a master strategist himself, making it most likely that the Legion would win the Civil War if the Last Dragonborn doesn't get involved on either side.  He very nearly ended the Civil War at the beginning of TES5's events, having ambushed & captured Ulfric Stormcloak in his own territory.

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    • Personally speaking, I think in the next game Cyrodiil will be invaded by and either partially or completely conquered by the Thalmor, meaning that the Empire as we know it will be effectively dead (and like Morrowind, High Rock's kingdoms would then be de-facto independent).

      The Skyrim Civil War would then be solved in a faction-neutral way, because no matter which side the Dragonborn picks, the outcome leads into E.S.VI's story.

      I think this is an interesting outcome because it would make the difference between an Imperial-controlled Skyrim and an independent Skyrim a moot point, since they will have become the same thing, which very entertainingly means that adversaries who survived the Civil War would now be operating as members of the same faction/entity, probably under the inspiration (or, if we're lucky, leadership) of the Dragonborn.  This would probably lead to an alliance (a new Daggerfall Covenant?) forming among the mannish nations of Hammerfell, Skyrim, and the kingdoms of High Rock, which would be a great political set-up for E.S.VI.

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    • Technically, the Thalmor Dossier on Ulfric Stormcloak states that the Dominion would prefer if neither side in the Skyrim Civil War even so much as gains ground. It is stated that the Dominion doesn't want either the Legion or the Stormcloaks to claim a quick, decisive victory; which very nearly happened for the former at the very beginning of TES5's events (only to be unluckily prevented by none other than Alduin).

      Also, due to potential troubles in Valenwood (beyond the purges the Thalmor have been conducting), an invasion of Cyrodiil so shortly after the Skyrim Civil War is extremely unlikely to happen.  The Dominion will need to re-secure Valenwood's allegiance first.

      Since we've seen evidence of the next game's setting, via the climate in last year's teaser trailer and photos taken in the most recent "25th Anniversary" trailer, all bets are against the possibility of it being set in Valenwood (so I doubt we'll be interacting with the Thalmor too much if at all).

      Whatever happens, the Last Dragonborn is not likely to indirectly inspire any element of the backstory. Though there has been one arguable exception like the Champion of Cyrodiil becoming the new Sheogorath, he [like all other playable Heroes], pretty much has disappeared from worldly events.

      So far in the main series, none of the [numbered] games have been true sequels to previous iterations in that regard.

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    • Ifnsman wrote:
      Technically, the Thalmor Dossier on Ulfric Stormcloak states that the Dominion would prefer if neither side in the Skyrim Civil War even so much as gains ground. It is stated that the Dominion doesn't want either the Legion or the Stormcloaks to claim a quick, decisive victory; which very nearly happened for the former at the very beginning of TES5's events (only to be unluckily prevented by none other than Alduin).

      I agree that the last thing they want is a quick, decisive victory for either side.

      Ifnsman wrote:
      Also, due to potential troubles in Valenwood (beyond the purges the Thalmor have been conducting), an invasion of Cyrodiil so shortly after the Skyrim Civil War is extremely unlikely to happen.  The Dominion will need to re-secure Valenwood's allegiance first.

      What's going on in Valenwood? This is news to me.

      Since we've seen evidence of the next game's setting, via the climate in last year's teaser trailer and photos taken in the most recent "25th Anniversary" trailer, all bets are against the possibility of it being set in Valenwood (so I doubt we'll be interacting with the Thalmor too much if at all).

      I think the emerging consensus is that it's definitely going to be set in Hammerfell and possibly High Rock too. I for one have been thoroughly convinced by the evidence, so we're in agreement. At best we might be able to visit Valenwood, but that's far from certain.

      Whatever happens, the Last Dragonborn is not likely to indirectly inspire any element of the backstory. Though there has been one arguable exception like the Champion of Cyrodiil becoming the new Sheogorath, he [like all other playable Heroes], pretty much has disappeared from wordly events.

      So far in the main series, none of the [numbered] games have been true sequels to previous iterations in that regard.

      So I may either agree or disagree with your statement depending upon how strongly you feel about this. Even though the protagonists usually fall into the background after the events of their respective games, their actions have huge ramifications for the next game to a greater or lesser extent; the actions of the protagonist of T.E.S.II, beyond "defeating" that game's villains as expected of the hero, ended up completely changing the political landscape of Iliac Bay. Since the Civil War was pretty much the quest-line of Skyrim other than the main quest-line of defeating Alduin, I think it's safe to assume that the Dragonborn is going to leave her or his mark on the outcome of the Civil War and the future of Skyrim.

      However, I think this involves unifying both sides directly or indirectly rather than a radical outcome that clearly favors the Imperials or favors the Stormcloaks. Honestly, if both Tullius and Ulfric end up dead and the Dragonborn brings Skyrim under the control of either faction, how would one be able to tell one side apart from the other at that point, at least within Skyrim? Either way the Dragonborn becomes the leader or gets to choose the next leader. That being said, I agree that the protagonist of E.S.VI is unlikely to meet the Dragonborn or that the Dragonborn may already be a historical figure or have gone missing by the time the next game takes place.

      Edit: Now that I'm thinking about it, the Dark Brotherhood quest-line heavily implies that one way or another there is going to be a new Emperor with a shift in policy.  So if Cyrodiil manages to survive intact for the next game (and perhaps even if it doesn't), maybe the new Emperor is going to grant Skyrim independence as a way to ensure Skyrim's cooperation in the next Great War.  I think this would especially make sense if Tullius or Ulfric or both have already been defeated prior to the Emperor's announcement, meaning that there aren't any more loose strings.

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    • Webspidrman wrote:
      What's going on in Valenwood? This is news to me.

      Purges. According to accounts of both Delphine & Malborn, the Thalmor regularly conducted mass killings of dissidents who didn't fall in line with their provisionary government. As for potential troubles? Things that are likely to happen? Rebellion, general disillusionment, attempts to reinstate the Camoran Dynasty and/or the Green Pact, deposing the Thalmor government, the likely return of the "Wilderking" ... heck, even another possible Wild Hunt.

      And there's also Legate Fasendil's similar account of a Purge that was secretly conducted long before the Great War; in which Altmer dissidents that fled the Summerset Isles for Sentinel [in Hammerfell] were killed by Thalmor agents in the incident now known as the "Night of Green Fire".

      It's safe to say the Thalmor aren't above slaughtering civilians.

      Webspidrman wrote:
      the actions of the protagonist of T.E.S.II, beyond "defeating" that game's villains as expected of the hero, ended up completely changing the political landscape of Iliac Bay. Since the Civil War was pretty much the quest-line of Skyrim other than the main quest-line of defeating Alduin, I think it's safe to assume that the Dragonborn is going to leave her or his mark on the outcome of the Civil War and the future of Skyrim.However, I think this involves unifying both sides directly or indirectly rather than a radical outcome that clearly favors the Imperials or favors the Stormcloaks. Honestly, if both Tullius and Ulfric end up dead and the Dragonborn brings Skyrim under the control of either faction, how would one be able to tell one side apart from the other at that point, at least within Skyrim? Either way the Dragonborn becomes the leader or gets to choose the next leader. That being said, I agree that the protagonist of E.S.VI is unlikely to meet the Dragonborn or that the Dragonborn may already be a historical figure or have gone missing by the time the next game takes place.

      Edit: Now that I'm thinking about it, the Dark Brotherhood quest-line heavily implies that one way or another there is going to be a new Emperor with a shift in policy.  So if Cyrodiil manages to survive intact for the next game (and perhaps even if it doesn't), maybe the new Emperor is going to grant Skyrim independence as a way to ensure Skyrim's cooperation in the next Great War.  I think this would especially make sense if Tullius or Ulfric or both have already been defeated prior to the Emperor's announcement, meaning that there aren't any more loose strings.

      Not necessarily. Since the Hero of Daggerfall's actions (through activating Numidium) affected only the Illiac Bay Region, you can't really argue that it had any impact on the Nerevarine's actions in Morrowind, or even the eventual Oblivion Crisis.

      The Skyrim Civil War quest-line is considered optional, and there's even an optional quest ("Season Unending") within the Main Quest-line that allows you to avoid having to pick a side entirely; so the Last Dragonborn's involvement in the Skyrim Civil War is effectively still a huge unknown. On another note; It's honestly much less likely for the Legion to lose, as they've already proven to have a more competent leader right at the beginning of the game, thus making the only hope for a swift Stormcloak victory to be if the Dragonborn joined them instead.

      The Last Dragonborn isn't likely to be mentioned at all in the next game... not unless they want to canonize one of choices in the "In My Time of Need" quest (assuming TES6's setting is indeed Hammerfell); if the Last Dragonborn helped Kematu capture the fugitive "Saadia" (Iman), it will then be possible that Kematu may have spread word of their deed when he returned to Hammerfell... but I doubt Kematu would've known said character was "Dragonborn".

      I think the Dark Brotherhood quest-line still shouldn't be taken for granted yet, as it's revealed that Astrid (regardless of whether you joined this faction) struck a deal with the Penitus Oculatus to wipe them out. Aside from the fact that there are only two likely survivors if the Last Dragonborn never joins this faction, who's to say that the Penitus Oculatus wouldn't soon discover Amaund's part in this as well? Because if you talk to Commander Maro to "Destroy the Dark Brotherhood", he'll reveal that they already discovered their sanctuary's location this early on in the quest-line.  Heck, for all we know, Vittoria Vici may still be alive by the next game's events. Point being that the fate of this assassins' guild is just as uncertain as the result of the Skyrim Civil War.

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    • How about it the Dragonborn is an altmer then he could just join the thalmor and get as high in their ranks as possible then use the thalmors trust in him to his advantage to make their downfall.

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    • 2A01:4C8:143F:DE67:51E9:E7F8:B947:8142 wrote:
      How about it the Dragonborn is an altmer then he could just join the thalmor and get as high in their ranks as possible then use the thalmors trust in him to his advantage to make their downfall.

      Theoretically possible, yes, but a little too reliant on the Dragonborn still being involved with events outside of fulfilling his/her destiny.

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