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  • I just finished reading Trial at Hogithum Hall (the full one) and while most of my questions were answered by numerous people on other sites (turns out many people didn't get the ending) there is one that wasn't and just keeps eating at my mind: it's the banishment. What did Vivec's banishment of her really DO? I know lords can't be killed but only eventually banished, but what difference does it really make when they are banished? Do they lose some of their power? Or the ability to interfere in Mundus through anything other than just talking to their worshippers? How did it actually affect Azura and is she STILL affected by it? Just to clarify, by now I mean the time of the latest TES game at the writing of this question (Skyrim). Is that why she can't seemingly do anything to that mage that's trying to corrupt her star herself, so she sends you to deal with it as her champion? I mean it seems a little odd that the same Prince who changed an entire race with a fingersnap (chimer to dunmer) couldn't just clap her hands and have Nelacar die, or something, isn't it? I mean, if banishing a daedric lord works the same as banishing say, a dremora, then sending them back to oblivon where they normally reside anyway, and which they rarely choose to leave, where they also have all the power that they had prior to the banishment, I think it's a bit redundant... Kind of like wanting to get rid of someone, not see them ever again, and dropping them off at their house without doing anything else and expecting the problem solved itself and you're never gonna have anything to do with them ever again. Any ideas are appreciated!

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    • Actually i think that a Daedra CAN be killed,a Daedra have two forms,one is in Oblivion,the other is their Manifestation to their servants,if you kill the manifestation  the daedra will be wakened,and if you go to oblivion you can try to killl that Daedra,obviously,a common mortal cannot  pretend to kill a daedra.

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    • A daedra can only be killedpermanently by doing so in Aetherius. Else, they'll just reform after enough time.

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    • I was a little confused, too. I can only guess that "shoving his spear down her throat" gave him some sort of satisfaction equal to revenge against her. The whole 'binding' her to Mundus and then banishing her, seems to have achieved very little.

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    • how did Vivc was able to banish a Daedric prince? 

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    • Pretty sure you've answered your own question. The Dragonborns interaction with Azura shows that she is unable to influence Mundus directly anymore. This is the ultimate punishment for the prince as her sphere is vanity. Azura more so than any dadera is reliant on the reverence of mortals. Being unable to influence the mortal plain is surely torture for Azura. The creation of the black Star is a total insult to Azura, and yet the prince who is famous for a her vengeful curses, is unable to do anything to those who've wronged her. After the trial, Azura is likely one the weakest princes, in terms of her influence over mortals. It was Vivecs ultimate revenge for the fall of the tribunal

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