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  • I have finished Darkness returns, and all of the city influence quests. Still, when I talk to brynjolf, I don't get told to go to the cistern. Any suggestions?

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    • Is this what happened?
      "(As of Patch 1.4) If you have completed all of the City Influence quests and fully renovated The Ragged Flagon before you complete 'Darkness Returns', when you then complete 'Darkness Returns' and return to The Ragged Flagon - Cistern, Brynjolf may walk up to you and initiate conversation, but this will not result in starting the 'Under New Management' quest or initiate the ceremony to make you Guild Master. Attempts to talk to Brynjolf after this result in him replying that he is too busy."

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    • he hasnt even walked up to me. all he does is continually praise the new position the guild has.

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    • Ottoman Hold wrote:
      Is this what happened?

      "(As of Patch 1.4) If you have completed all of the City Influence quests and fully renovated The Ragged Flagon before you complete "Darkness Returns", when you then complete "Darkness Returns" and return to The Ragged Flagon - Cistern, Brynjolf may walk up to you and initiate conversation, but this will not result in starting the "Under New Management" quest or initiate the ceremony to make you Guild Master. Attempts to talk to Brynjolf after this result in him replying that he is too busy."

      i interact with him and all i can say is how is the guild doing? 

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    • The only thing you could do is attack brynjolf until he falls to the ground, then yield. You can also try doing some other quests first, or doing a few side jobs to see if the quest suddenly updates and Brynjolf gets the option.

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    • i'll give it a shot. 

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    • welp, attacking and surrendering didnt work

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    • Here's some more suggestions:
      -Do some more side jobs from Delvin or Vex to see if the quest will randomly update.
      -Use Unrelenting Force (Fus Ro Dah) on Brynjolf a few times.
      -Try bringing a few guards down into the thieves guild by attracting a bounty, then take them to Brynjolf (best to do this from the Rataway and not from the secret entrance, since the other guild members will kill them before they make it out of the Cistern).

      I'll try to think of some more if those don't work. I'd suggest you do them in the order that I wrote them, since they range in their repercussions.

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    • I have the same problem with Skyrim special edition..

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    • This is very annoying. I can’t get him to talk . I did every quest possible even the moon sugar one for the fence. I restored the flagon and did “Darkness Returns.” Im trying to get every trophy for skyrim and the last one I need is to restore the guild to its former glory. Which I can’t!

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    • I'm having the same issue. Only I was told to go to the cistern, everyone is gathered in a circle, and nothing happens from here.

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    • Try using unrelenting force or waiting in place for a while. You could also get a few guards to become hostile to you and bring them down into the cistern so that the guild members kill them. That might reset the dialogue.

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    • I found a fix for this on the nexusmods forum.

      Skyrim SE with the 1.4 patch. After completing Darkness Returns and all of the 'small jobs', the 4 'special jobs' for Delvin, and the Moon Sugar task from Tonilia, Brynjolf STILL won't start the quest. You can ask him "How's the Guild doing?" but that's it. To fix this you need to get Karlia and Sapphire into the Cistern.

      Run these commands:

      prid 00058f1a

      moveto player

      prid 000C19A5

      moveto player

      And then run:

      setstage TGLeadership 0

      This will start the quest.

      Source: https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/564751-quest-fix-under-new-management-thieves-guild/

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    • I had this issue. It wouldn't start because Sapphire was in the Bee and Barb instead of the Ragged Flagon Cistern.

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    • I had this problem as well. Didn't do the Quest with Shadr and Sapphire. I teleported them to the bridge so I could start and finish that quest. After that Sapphire was in the Cistern and I teleported Kaliah to the Cistern and did 'resetquest tgleadership'. Then, finally, the quest 'Under New Management' did start...

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    • 146.115.135.66 wrote:
      I found a fix for this on the nexusmods forum.

      Skyrim SE with the 1.4 patch. After completing Darkness Returns and all of the 'small jobs', the 4 'special jobs' for Delvin, and the Moon Sugar task from Tonilia, Brynjolf STILL won't start the quest. You can ask him "How's the Guild doing?" but that's it. To fix this you need to get Karlia and Sapphire into the Cistern.

      Run these commands:

      prid 00058f1a

      moveto player

      prid 000C19A5

      moveto player

      And then run:

      setstage TGLeadership 0

      This will start the quest.

      Source: https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/564751-quest-fix-under-new-management-thieves-guild/

      Thank you! for the tip! Worked like a charm. Almost two years later (post) and this still happens. Done and Done.... Thank you

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