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  • Redguard's might be one of the most positive representations of POC to date. That is why these games will always have my respect. ┬áThe Redguards remind me so much of the Songhai and Mali empires. Every time I visit Hammerfell in ESO I think of Mansa Musa & Askia the Great. A huge upgrade from the stereotypical roles we have known Africans and other POC to play in the past. I really just need to email them this. lol

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    • just wait until SJWs find out about the fact that black people are a seperate humanoid race in the elder scrolls universe.LUL

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    • From Michael Kirkbride, writer and designer for Redguard, Morrowind and Oblivion


      On the Redguards:

      " No, I was actually referring to The Black Panthers and their radicalism.

      As some people know I'm not really a fan of the United Colors of Beneton approach to Tamrielicreation, which smacks of white guilt and offensery rather than some holistic form of beautiful inclusion. Thus, it's my fault that the Asian analogues got eaten. Oops. Looks like others are bringing 'em back, though. But I promise my choice had nothing to do with Yellow Peril, it had to do with co-opting "coolness of color" without thinking about it intelligently and compassionately.

      (Hunkers down for the flame.)

      That said, when I started writing Redguard I really thought about how unique the black people of Tamriel were: they came in and kicked ass and slaughtered the indigenes while doing so. They invaded. It was the first time I had encountered the idea of "black imperialism"...and it struck me big time, as something 1) new, 2) potentially dangerous if taken as commentary, and 3) potentially rad if taken as commentary.

      Who knows. AVault did say it had a story worthy of being on stage, and Michael Mack (Cyrus) once thanked me for giving him words that "Black folks don't get to say" (referring to Cyrus' speech and the reversal of Son to the Father)... which broke my heart and made me puff my chest all at the same time.

      Which is a long way of saying: panther-love"

      Are Redguards human? (04/23/14)


      "Yokudan humans are humans. To put a stake in the sand: the men and women of Yokuda and their descendants, most popularly the Redguards, are human. No ifs, ands, or buts."

      - - -

      So what have we learned today, children? Well, before you set out thinking you've engaged in some sweet "sjw" pwnage, you miiiiiight want to have a basic grasp of the actual lore of the games you pretend to be such big fans of? And you may also want to make sure that it wasn't written from the perspective of anti-racism and leftism?

      Because otherwise, you might just end up looking like the mental deficient basement-dwelling racist trolls who are bad at reading comprehension, that you are. Just food for thought...

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    • ^ What I learned today, was don't make any jokes about Redguards - or else Ryan might start crying.

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    • Just don't be racist, Redguards are awesome. Simple as that.

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    • redguards are pretty much the most badass race around. they handled having a dark-skinned race in the series very well by simply NOT SAYING the word dark-skinned or any connotative word to it. they gave the race more self-respect this way.

      btw if your race can create swords from willpower alone, you are bound not be messed with.

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    • I think the Redguards are kind of alright, but with any race that "done f-cked up" say invading and slaughtering, I'm allowed to "tsk tsk shame on you" them.

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    • Also, I hope they incorporate inspiration from the Serer people of Senegal. They have some pretty dope creation myths and lore as well as beautiful beadwork and clothes.

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    • If your definition of a "positive" portrayal involves invading somewhere and murdering the locals to take their land, I have to question your idea of a positive.



      But then, basically in all of Tamrielic history the only relatively good and unambigiously heroic person who didn't perpetrate any notable massacres or horrific crimes against anyone else seems to have been Martin Septim. I went looking.

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