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  • Hey guys, I've recently looked at the Bugs in a jar theory and have seen that the letters may be Runes.

    Maybe the 'runes' on the lids of them could have something to do with the Rune character in the thieves guild? It could link to his parents or something?

    Can anyone see if you can talk to rune and somehow 'give' him the bugs in a jar and/or ask him about them?

    Thanks! I really want to see both of these Easter eggs brought to a close.

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    • recently camelworks posted a video in his youtube channel about this bugs in jars... quite unsatisfyingly, this bugs in jars were "cut-off" contents... they had no whatsoever purposes other than to decorate your home... he obtained this info from one of game developer team member, so i think it is legit...

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    • There's an ongoing theory that each of the runes correspond to a point on the map, or something along those lines. I'll provide a link if I am able to find something about this.

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    • According to a video I saw a while ago, the letter to Rune said "it appears as if they've (his parents) completely erased themselves from history"

      Now, in the Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion, you have to help the Gray Fox, a kind of guildmaster, to remove the curse from the Gray Fox cowl or whatever it's called.

      The curse was that the Gray Fox would be, in his exact words, "be erased from history".

      The overlapping of these might suggest that Rune's mother/father/one of his relatives was the Gray Fox. Due to the fact that the curse was removed, however, this is a farfetched and might just be a coincidence.

      Feel free to correct me if I got details wrong.

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    • HighVelocityCactus wrote:
      According to a video I saw a while ago, the letter to Rune said "it appears as if they've (his parents) completely erased themselves from history"

      Now, in the Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion, you have to help the Gray Fox, a kind of guildmaster, to remove the curse from the Gray Fox cowl or whatever it's called.

      The curse was that the Gray Fox would be, in his exact words, "be erased from history".

      The overlapping of these might suggest that Rune's mother/father/one of his relatives was the Gray Fox. Due to the fact that the curse was removed, however, this is a farfetched and might just be a coincidence.

      Feel free to correct me if I got details wrong.

      Skyrim took place 200 years after Oblivion took place, so I sorta doubt that... But that's a good idea.

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    • LilyEllaC wrote:

      HighVelocityCactus wrote:
      According to a video I saw a while ago, the letter to Rune said "it appears as if they've (his parents) completely erased themselves from history"

      Now, in the Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion, you have to help the Gray Fox, a kind of guildmaster, to remove the curse from the Gray Fox cowl or whatever it's called.

      The curse was that the Gray Fox would be, in his exact words, "be erased from history".

      The overlapping of these might suggest that Rune's mother/father/one of his relatives was the Gray Fox. Due to the fact that the curse was removed, however, this is a farfetched and might just be a coincidence.

      Feel free to correct me if I got details wrong.

      Skyrim took place 200 years after Oblivion took place, so I sorta doubt that... But that's a good idea.

      Yeah that would be unlikely. UNLESS his parents were Altmer

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    • After a ton of research, I'm confident that Rune's parents must have both donned the Curse of the Gray Fox.

      First, the curse wasn't on just one Gray Fox, but whoever had worn the Gray Cowl of Nocturne. This means that the curse would spread to another person should they acquire the Cowl and still affect all individuals who had worn the Cowl.

      Second, when Corvus (the Gray Fox at the time) is freed from the curse, he gives the Cowl to the Hero of Kvatch, unknowingly passing the curse to the Hero. This explains why the Hero's name, race and gender are not specifically detailed in Skyrim.

      Third, given the specific phrasing in the letter to Rune "No Word Yet" details that his parents had "completely erased themselves from history." A feat only known to have been caused by the Curse on the Gray Cowl of Nocturne.

      So while it's safe to assume that Rune's parents had acquired the Curse and left Rune behind for any number of reasons, the runes/markings on the lids of the Jars containing insects seem to have no discernable connection to Rune's parents.

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    • I find this unlikely. The whole point of the Thieves' Guild questline was to help Corvus Umbranox regain his life as Count. The curse is no more; therefore names forgotten have since been remembered. 

      No one can tell our race and gender because we've become a Daedric Lord. And besides, no one really cares about us anymore. The days of Daedric invaders are long gone.

      If you think about it it doesn't make sense, anyway. Is Sheogorath still in possession of an artifact of Lady Nocturnal? Could it be retrieved? What are the chances of Rune getting involved with such powerful figures as the Princes are? They as figures of change cannot be reveared as figures of creation. Therefore a statement such as "Rune's mom is Nocturnal" is utterly outrageous. I personally don't see how the Cowl can be related to him at all.

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