• 01:15:53: Kora Stormblade: .
  • 01:17:16: The Crusader of Truth: Chat still works yeah
  • 01:19:42: Kora Stormblade: hey crus
  • 01:34:37: The Crusader of Truth: Hey Kora whats up
  • 01:35:08: Kora Stormblade: nothing much, just watching a few vids
  • 01:35:22: Kora Stormblade: got done with drum major auditions so Im going to try taking a break this weekens
  • 01:35:24: Kora Stormblade: and you?
  • 01:35:43: The Crusader of Truth: Prom
  • 01:35:45: The Crusader of Truth: And stress
  • 01:35:51: The Crusader of Truth: A lot of fucking stress
  • 01:35:53: Kora Stormblade: I never worry about prom tbh
  • 01:35:55: Kora Stormblade: and why stress?
  • 01:36:09: The Crusader of Truth: Because my girlfriend is somewhere between a dumbass and a dick
  • 01:36:31: Kora Stormblade: oh thatsucks
  • 01:36:41: Kora Stormblade: Im stressed because my interview went pretty shit lol
  • 01:36:51: The Crusader of Truth: Yeah I guess we're all stressed out
  • 01:37:07: Kora Stormblade: yea xd
  • 01:37:11: The Crusader of Truth: She ignored me for a week, asked me whats wrong, and when I told her she got mad at me, cussed me out with her friend, and then broke up with me
  • 01:37:21: Kora Stormblade: wow she broke up with you?
  • 01:37:28: The Crusader of Truth: And the funny part is I know when Im wrong and I seriously didnt say nothing wrong
  • 01:37:34: Kora Stormblade: So technically not your gf anymore right?
  • 01:37:47: The Crusader of Truth: Yeah kinda
  • 01:38:00: Kora Stormblade: can I ask what was the thing you were upset about?
  • 01:38:09: Kora Stormblade: Or what was wrong that you told her of
  • 01:38:30: The Crusader of Truth: The fact I was sick the entire week she ignored me, and with how bad I was sick I couldnt really leave my house, and all she did all week was ignore me
  • 01:38:52: Kora Stormblade: Did she ever say why she ignored you or no?
  • 01:38:56: The Crusader of Truth: Nope
  • 01:39:30: Kora Stormblade: Don't get mad at me but from what Im getting nothing sounds like your fault here
  • 01:39:40: Kora Stormblade: I could be wrong of course, but I think she was being unfair to you
  • 01:39:46: The Crusader of Truth: And I fuck up a lot and I make people upset a lot and I know when I do something wrong, but I know I didnt do nothing wrong this time and I got treated like a dick
  • 01:39:51: The Crusader of Truth: She even called me a dick, twice
  • 01:40:05: Kora Stormblade: Do you know if she is having other problems away from you?
  • 01:40:18: Kora Stormblade: Say, a passing of a relative or stress etc
  • 01:40:18: The Crusader of Truth: Shes not, no
  • 01:40:39: Kora Stormblade: Can you think of anything you might have done before she ignored you which may have set her off?
  • 01:40:49: The Crusader of Truth: No not really
  • 01:41:05: The Crusader of Truth: Otherwise I would have said sorry for it and tried to fix it, but she seriously just went from there to fuck off
  • 01:41:34: Kora Stormblade: I think you should leave her some time to think, because what she did doesnt really add up and it was pretty uncalled for
  • 01:42:07: The Crusader of Truth: And when she broke up with me I ended up getting treated like I was the one who did something wrong because I didnt cry like she wanted me to
  • 01:42:34: Kora Stormblade: Yea no you didnt do anything wrong imo
  • 01:42:50: The Crusader of Truth: Honestly I think the whole thing is shes in love with someone else and shes not telling me
  • 01:43:38: Kora Stormblade: Possibly, that or she felt like you werent giving her what she wanted, like maybe she felt like you didnt give her enough attention
  • 01:44:07: The Crusader of Truth: The first idea, maybe
  • 01:44:11: The Crusader of Truth: The second idea, no
  • 01:44:23: Kora Stormblade: So she might have gone "Well if he isnt going to pay attention to me I'll see how he likes it" and she ignores you, then thinks you dont care when you might not ask even though you were too sick to
  • 01:44:43: Kora Stormblade: Well have you been giving her the same amount of attention as usual before this ?
  • 01:45:13: Kora Stormblade: Because girls tend to really overthink and overanalyze shit tbh
  • 01:45:17: The Crusader of Truth: *bit
  • 01:45:26: The Crusader of Truth: What do you mean by that
  • 01:45:50: Kora Stormblade: Well if you take a certain amount of time to respond to a text that might upset some girls
  • 01:46:00: Kora Stormblade: and when theyre upset they usually ignore their boyfriends or hide it
  • 01:46:08: The Crusader of Truth: I usually respond in less than 5 minutes, so thats not really the case
  • 01:46:14: Kora Stormblade: And see if the boyfriend "cares for them" enough to ask or notice
  • 01:46:21: The Crusader of Truth: And well I would say yes but shes been upset before but shes never done that
  • 01:46:24: The Crusader of Truth: And oh I asked a lot
  • 01:46:24: Kora Stormblade: Well yea but Im using an example there
  • 01:46:31: Kora Stormblade: Hm yea thats odd
  • 01:47:04: Kora Stormblade: Im not exactly sure how to help out except maybe say youre open for discussion and would like to know what you did to upset her since you really dont know
  • 01:47:18: The Crusader of Truth: She told me multiple times nothing is wrong, and that she hadnt changed or started to do anything different, but I knew she was lying
  • 01:47:26: Kora Stormblade: That might piss her off more but at this point it doesnt sound like you have much to lose, sorry if thats harsh
  • 01:47:33: The Crusader of Truth: Yeah true
  • 01:47:40: The Crusader of Truth: brb
  • 01:47:44: Kora Stormblade: kkk
  • 01:49:13: The Crusader of Truth: Ayy hail fellow klansman
  • 01:49:25: The Crusader of Truth: Nah that didnt take that long
  • 01:49:28: Kora Stormblade: xd
  • 01:49:35: Kora Stormblade: Im sorry to hear about that though
  • 01:49:40: KINMUNE: Hello there, DarkVaultBoy!
  • 01:49:59: Kora Stormblade: I know youre probably hurting atm so I just wish you the best of luck with the situation, and that it really doesnt sound like your fault so dont blame yourself
  • 01:50:01: Kora Stormblade: Hey dark o,
  • 01:50:03: Kora Stormblade: * o.
  • 01:50:28: KINMUNE: Hello there, The Crusader of Truth!
  • 01:50:51: The Crusader of Truth: o/
  • 01:51:01: The Crusader of Truth: You'd be surprised Im not hurting that much
  • 01:51:12: The Crusader of Truth: I mean Ive had flashes but Im mostly like 'ok good'
  • 01:51:32: Kora Stormblade: That's pretty good then
  • 01:52:00: The Crusader of Truth: I mean
  • 01:52:06: Kora Stormblade: I'll be pretty antsy till next thursday so better than Im doing xd
  • 01:52:19: The Crusader of Truth: If someones going to go and treat me like that, and I actually care about you, you dont deserve me
  • 01:52:55: Kora Stormblade: Yea so it might be that you could be better off
  • 01:53:03: Kora Stormblade: Although that's entirely up to you and your opinion, ofc
  • 01:53:18: The Crusader of Truth: In the short run, Im not better off
  • 01:53:22: The Crusader of Truth: In the long run, Im way better off
  • 01:53:25: Kora Stormblade: If you still think you could try giving her another shot thats your thing too
  • 01:53:29: Kora Stormblade: Yea good point
  • 01:54:05: Kora Stormblade: Its really quite inexcusable for the other to act that way too
  • 01:54:30: Kora Stormblade: If I did that to my boyfriend yea he'd definitely break up with me before I would and I wouldnt blame him for it xd
  • 01:54:51: The Crusader of Truth: I offered her a second chance, she said '/she/ needed some time'
  • 01:55:03: The Crusader of Truth: Not like shes the one that got called a dick after being ignored for a week
  • 01:55:08: Kora Stormblade: Yea I wouldnt waste your time honestly, but its up to you what you do
  • 01:55:38: Kora Stormblade: I would be tempted to wait just a tad to see the whole situation too and make sure there wasnt some misunderstanding before cutting off
  • 01:56:07: Kora Stormblade: But if there wasnt a misunderstanding or if whatever was going behind the scenes was stupid it wouldnt be a bad idea to go at that point either
  • 01:56:25: Kora Stormblade: But thats just me here you do your thing man
  • 01:56:59: The Crusader of Truth: I've asked what it was after everything
  • 01:57:01: The Crusader of Truth: She never said
  • 01:57:05: The Crusader of Truth: So who the hell knows
  • 01:57:15: Kora Stormblade: Yea she sound like shes playing games tbh
  • 01:57:23: Kora Stormblade: Which isnt really great
  • 01:57:27: The Crusader of Truth: People say women are mysterious, and the way shes acting I wonder why
  • 01:57:31: Kora Stormblade: xD
  • 01:57:36: Kora Stormblade: not /so/ bad tho ;)
  • 01:57:49: Kora Stormblade: Hey listen Ill be back in like 10-15 minutes Imma go eat dinner o.
  • 01:58:03: The Crusader of Truth: Alrighty have fun
  • 01:58:04: Kora Stormblade: although if you gotta leave before then then goodnight dood o.
  • 01:58:06: Kora Stormblade: \o
  • 02:04:10: DarkVaultBoy: fook
  • 02:04:16: The Crusader of Truth: wot
  • 02:05:03: DarkVaultBoy: fook noogers
  • 02:05:10: The Crusader of Truth: Oh alright
  • 02:16:10: Kora Stormblade: I be back
  • 02:22:44: The Crusader of Truth: Hey Kora
  • 02:22:54: Kora Stormblade: jesus christ pings are so loud
  • 02:22:57: Kora Stormblade: and hey crus o.
  • 02:23:14: The Crusader of Truth: Yeah same
  • 02:23:21: Kora Stormblade: xd
  • 02:23:57: The Crusader of Truth: So life just got even more thrilling while youre gone
  • 02:24:03: Kora Stormblade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0qTdO4C8p4&ab_channel=TemponautTimelapse
  • 02:24:04: Kora Stormblade: oh dear
  • 02:24:05: KINMUNE: Time Lapse Cucumber
  • 02:24:07: Kora Stormblade: what happen boi
  • 02:24:55: The Crusader of Truth: Well I went to mom after she did all that ignoring me stuff etc and mom got piss angry and hates her guts
  • 02:25:21: Kora Stormblade: hates your ex gf guts and is defending you yea?
  • 02:25:26: The Crusader of Truth: Yeah
  • 02:25:35: Kora Stormblade: Do you consider that good then?
  • 02:25:37: The Crusader of Truth: And it just so happens she spent a week here without her dad knowing, so mom is pretty damn pissed and is using it as leverage
  • 02:25:52: The Crusader of Truth: Turns out we are still doing prom even if Im mad at her so thats why thats stressful
  • 02:26:03: The Crusader of Truth: And guess who all comes to me to bitch about the other
  • 02:26:37: Kora Stormblade: Wait so Im a bit confused, did your ex come to stay somewhere without her dad knowing?
  • 02:26:49: The Crusader of Truth: Yeah
  • 02:26:54: Kora Stormblade: Im just a tiny bit confused here but Im also tired which is probably why xd
  • 02:26:56: The Crusader of Truth: Which was a great idea
  • 02:26:58: Kora Stormblade: Oh so like
  • 02:27:08: Kora Stormblade: She stayed there the whole week with you but igbored you?
  • 02:27:16: The Crusader of Truth: No that was 3 weeks ago
  • 02:27:29: Kora Stormblade: Oh
  • 02:27:37: Kora Stormblade: And its just lately shes been ignoring ah
  • 02:28:01: Kora Stormblade: Why cant you cut off prom though if your mom is backing you up on it and hates her now?
  • 02:28:14: The Crusader of Truth: I dont know
  • 02:28:17: The Crusader of Truth: I want to just scream
  • 02:28:28: The Crusader of Truth: And maybe kill someone but mostly scream
  • 02:28:35: Kora Stormblade: lmao you should go and you know what I'd do?
  • 02:28:44: The Crusader of Truth: Call it off
  • 02:28:55: Kora Stormblade: Do literally everything and anything you can to embarass the shit out of her if you cant call it off (pinch)
  • 02:29:09: Kora Stormblade: And maybe flirt with every girl you encounter just to piss her off
  • 02:29:17: Kora Stormblade: Like big time (pinch)
  • 02:30:08: Kora Stormblade: I mean you might as well if theres really no other option, its be better to make her life a living hell there and have some fun with what you can
  • 02:30:39: DarkVaultBoy: Jesus is the almighty! We pray in his name!
  • 02:31:05: Kora Stormblade: hay soose
  • 02:31:52: The Crusader of Truth: Im not exactly the one to purposefully make peoples lives hell
  • 02:32:15: Kora Stormblade: Well I mean its either that or you can walk out of there
  • 02:32:26: The Crusader of Truth: Yeah Im about ready to
  • 02:32:31: Kora Stormblade: Then again I also think differently and would try and piss them off since they did that so xd
  • 02:34:11: The Crusader of Truth: u evil
  • 02:34:45: The Crusader of Truth: But does the whole story kinda make sense or did i leave out something
  • 02:34:46: Kora Stormblade: (Kappa)
  • 02:35:22: Kora Stormblade: Somewhat yea, although Im still not sure why you have to go but then again you dont sound like you know either
  • 02:35:52: Kora Stormblade: And about the whole someone bitching to you about someone else bit
  • 02:36:10: KINMUNE: Hello there, Gamingexpert45!
  • 02:36:37: Kora Stormblade: o/
  • 02:36:50: The Crusader of Truth: *awaits strong advise*
  • 02:37:00: Kora Stormblade: xd
  • 02:37:38: Kora Stormblade: *is watching vids and on the verge of losing conciousness and falling asleep*
  • 02:37:40: The Crusader of Truth: tbh you sound like my mom, except youre not doing the unnecessary stuff and the bitching
  • 02:37:48: Kora Stormblade: >doesnt know how to spell whoops
  • 02:37:54: The Crusader of Truth: whoppps
  • 02:37:55: Kora Stormblade: thanks? xD
  • 02:38:15: The Crusader of Truth: Its not really a compliment Im comparing your advice
  • 02:38:15: Kora Stormblade: I mean I hope that thats good then xd
  • 02:38:28: Kora Stormblade: Hm well so semi then xd
  • 02:38:33: The Crusader of Truth: And yeah yours is better because its reasonable
  • 02:38:46: Kora Stormblade: Like tbf I hardly get advice from my parent so idk I try
  • 02:38:57: The Crusader of Truth: Youre giving the same points but shes giving anger as to why shes saying it, youre actually pointing out why
  • 02:39:33: The Crusader of Truth: I want to fucking hate her guts out tbh but im too nice
  • 02:40:19: Kora Stormblade: Yea (y) although I do still feel that since I dont realy fully know either of you guys and if theres stuff which could be behind the scenes to maybe wait it out just for a short couple of days and see if anything changesm but by waiting I mean not being involved with her but not blocking out fully
  • 02:40:36: The Crusader of Truth: Yeah Im trying
  • 02:40:43: Kora Stormblade: And if waiting does you worse than cutting off might be your best option
  • 02:40:54: The Crusader of Truth: Honestly I think the average person in my spot would never say a word to her again
  • 02:40:54: Kora Stormblade: From that it sounds like that was an abusive turn
  • 02:41:11: Kora Stormblade: Well yea, although average is likely how you are feeling now
  • 02:41:22: The Crusader of Truth: And honestly if I could rewind time right now I probably actually wouldnt say a thing ever again
  • 02:41:37: The Crusader of Truth: What do you mean m9?
  • 02:41:43: The Crusader of Truth: *m8
  • 02:41:45: Kora Stormblade: Because in a relationship with someone you trustec that sort of dramatic turn can leave a lot of confusing feelings behind
  • 02:42:20: The Crusader of Truth: Oh yeah true
  • 02:42:34: Kora Stormblade: So as an average person they might want to not speak to them while wishing to, if that makes sense, or atleast something weird of the sort.
  • 02:42:52: The Crusader of Truth: Damnit I am average then
  • 02:43:21: Kora Stormblade: So nah whatever youre feeling is prety exected out of a situation like that, although everyone reacs differently ofc
  • 02:43:56: Kora Stormblade: Doesnt make it any less harmful, though
  • 02:44:45: Kora Stormblade: Usually you have a few routes here, mostly two big ones and Im sure I dont have to explain those, although one of them could be that your friends but not in a relationship, alrhough at this point Imsure you arent really entertaining that idea
  • 02:45:04: Kora Stormblade: *youre
  • 02:45:06: The Crusader of Truth: Actually I kinda am
  • 02:45:13: The Crusader of Truth: If she doesnt keep switching between nice and cunt
  • 02:45:42: Kora Stormblade: Yea, so it doesnt necessarily have to end in a cut off
  • 02:46:19: Kora Stormblade: which I would be somehwat hesitant to do only due to the fact that more info may pop up, but if it doesnt then it does sound like mind games which you shouldnt be getting on with
  • 02:47:19: The Crusader of Truth: I feel like Im trying to solve one of Einstein's riddles, except every few minutes the information on who likes what changes
  • 02:47:26: Kora Stormblade: As friends it could be easier, and she could change as being just a friend, so the relationship itself can still be salvaged
  • 02:47:38: The Crusader of Truth: Thats what Im hoping
  • 02:48:05: The Crusader of Truth: Of course, hope doesnt do a fucking thing for me at this moment
  • 02:48:14: Kora Stormblade: yea which is why I'd wait a tad and if results arent great you could tell her about either the friend thing or saying if you arent straightening up then you guys cant be together at all
  • 02:48:45: Kora Stormblade: Well yea, although as I said there are multiple ways you can go, and you can try and determine each shot and long term benefits and cons
  • 02:48:55: Kora Stormblade: Not as easy as it sounds I know but still
  • 02:49:21: The Crusader of Truth: I hate the damned waiting tbh
  • 02:49:28: Kora Stormblade: And your ideas and perspective may change in the next few days as the situation sinks in more
  • 02:49:49: Kora Stormblade: Well the other option is noping the fuck out of there eentirely and getting on with life without her
  • 02:50:10: The Crusader of Truth: Which I think would be kinda hard for me, because Im not that mean generally
  • 02:50:26: The Crusader of Truth: And its kinda hard to get rid of the love, even if most of it she pissed over and shat on until it legt
  • 02:50:27: Kora Stormblade: Well the thing is is its not about her, its you
  • 02:50:27: The Crusader of Truth: *left
  • 02:50:36: The Crusader of Truth: Howso?
  • 02:50:37: Kora Stormblade: Yea that is understandable
  • 02:50:46: Kora Stormblade: Well, do what makes /you/ happy and healthy
  • 02:50:59: Kora Stormblade: She, at least to me, has shown to you that she doesnt feel the same
  • 02:51:33: Kora Stormblade: And thinks its alright to treat you in such a way which has harmed you in the process, and doesnt apologize for it, while also playing the victim
  • 02:51:43: Kora Stormblade: Theres no reason for you to feel bad for leaving after tha
  • 02:52:29: Kora Stormblade: Even if you feel like youd be feeling mean, she must also have to face and realize that her actions have consequences and results if leaving is what you decide to do
  • 02:53:05: The Crusader of Truth: Oh if she does it again to me
  • 02:53:29: The Crusader of Truth: Lets just say I do say I dont like being an asshole, but I know how to be one
  • 02:53:37: Kora Stormblade: So at the end of the day it really boils down to if it helps you to stay or hurts you, long and shot run. If you believe it may help, you can stay and try and make it work however you can, and if you believe it wont work or it isnt working or itw ill hurt you, you can leave too, and she'll have to be ok with that
  • 02:53:40: The Crusader of Truth: Correction
  • 02:53:46: The Crusader of Truth: I dont like being an asshole anywhere but TES*
  • 02:53:51: Kora Stormblade: xd
  • 02:54:00: Kora Stormblade: But you see where Im getting at here?
  • 02:54:10: The Crusader of Truth: Yeah I do
  • 02:54:19: The Crusader of Truth: Thanks it kinda helped clear my head a little
  • 02:54:28: The Crusader of Truth: And brought a lot of the pain back but helped clear my head a little
  • 02:54:44: Kora Stormblade: Well Im glad it helped you in some way
  • 02:55:05: The Crusader of Truth: You and Dark now know too much, and KIN too
  • 02:55:09: The Crusader of Truth: Youre all going to have to die now
  • 02:55:21: Kora Stormblade: I know it probably sucks so I would suggest working it out in your head then doing something to take your mind off after
  • 02:55:22: Kora Stormblade: o shit boi
  • 02:55:30: Kora Stormblade: u can try (kappa)
  • 02:55:39: The Crusader of Truth: It seems like every time I make a decision in my head I cant act it out
  • 02:56:07: The Crusader of Truth: Ive tried ignoring her, Ive tried going back out even, I've tried being friends, Ive tried sneaking away
  • 02:56:11: The Crusader of Truth: it all just fails
  • 02:56:18: Kora Stormblade: You might be not fully in to the decision then, or too worried about how you might effec the oother person
  • 02:56:21: The Crusader of Truth: Im too nice
  • 02:56:33: The Crusader of Truth: Mostly the second
  • 02:56:51: Kora Stormblade: I think shes using your niceness as her own advantage possibly
  • 02:57:24: The Crusader of Truth: I agree Ive been thinking that but explain your position
  • 02:57:45: Kora Stormblade: If she doesnt show you the respect you deserve, you have no obligation to do the same. She didnt have the consideration for your feelings, by the looks of it
  • 02:58:30: Kora Stormblade: Well, youve been nice and from what I know never lash out on her, least at this level, and it could be possible that she thinks you might go back and take pity on her, which coukd be her reason for saying "She" needs time
  • 02:58:53: Kora Stormblade: That or she might be having something else going on, it all was too much and lashed at you all at once for it
  • 02:59:22: The Crusader of Truth: Ive lashed out a time or two since she pulled that rude stunt
  • 02:59:30: Kora Stormblade: Well yea
  • 02:59:48: The Crusader of Truth: But no I made sure I didnt lash out at her until she did that
  • 02:59:54: Kora Stormblade: Too much niceness isnt good, though, and its good to stand your ground when you feel that its needed
  • 03:00:38: Kora Stormblade: Yea so its likely she was being stupid and realized it and uses the whole I need time thing to try and use your niceness as your weakness, or other things got to her
  • 03:00:58: The Crusader of Truth: "I've actually had a nice time talking to you today" -- She just told me that
  • 03:01:05: The Crusader of Truth: So Im guessing she doesnt like talking to me maybe?
  • 03:01:19: The Crusader of Truth: Jesus this is confusing
  • 03:01:36: Kora Stormblade: I could be wrong so take what I say with a grain of salt (idk if I used that saying right probably not) but it might be that shes playing games
  • 03:01:52: Kora Stormblade: and trying to win back the affection she knows she losr from you
  • 03:02:23: Kora Stormblade: Its like a mother yelling at a child only to buy them chocolate afterwards
  • 03:02:55: Kora Stormblade: As I said I could be wrong though, but to me it just sounds like shes trying to reel you back in and I wouldnt give into that
  • 03:02:59: Kora Stormblade: Atleast not yet
  • 03:03:37: The Crusader of Truth: Maybe
  • 03:03:39: The Crusader of Truth: Im nit sure
  • 03:04:27: Kora Stormblade: yea I would try waiting it out and staying neutral untul you get a more reliable pattern
  • 03:09:50: The Crusader of Truth: True Ill take that advise
  • 03:10:24: The Crusader of Truth: I gotta go Im kinda dead goodnight
  • 04:06:03: KINMUNE: Hello there, Sanaku!
  • 04:06:25: Sanaku: Hello! :3
  • 04:28:38: KINMUNE: Hello there, ShawnCognitionCP!
  • 04:31:55: KINMUNE: Hello there, A Fish Face!
  • 04:58:14: KINMUNE: Hello there, Alexandros Mavros!
  • 06:30:55: KINMUNE: Hello there, TheEnderLordBr!
  • 06:31:26: TheEnderLordBr: Someone know the itemid of Heddic's Volunruud Notes?
  • 07:15:18: KINMUNE: Hello there, Qahnaarin1997!
  • 09:01:31: KINMUNE: Hello there, Tullin!
  • 09:27:41: KINMUNE: Hello there, Jhares!
  • 09:37:00: KINMUNE: Hello there, RenzXVI!
  • 10:36:29: KINMUNE: Hello there, Foxythefox12321!
  • 10:36:52: Foxythefox12321: Hello there, KINMUNE!
  • 10:37:39: Foxythefox12321: Hey Rent
  • 10:37:45: Foxythefox12321: Renz *
  • 12:53:02: KINMUNE: Hello there, CarloV3r!
  • 12:53:22: CarloV3r: I'm so sure that Ardore Forza is Shockstorm
  • 12:53:37: RenzXVI: The what?
  • 12:53:48: CarloV3r: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/User:Ardore_Forza
  • 12:53:54: CarloV3r: Was in chat yesterday
  • 12:55:27: RenzXVI: I've seen him edit a lot.
  • 12:55:35: CarloV3r: Yeah, because he's Shockstorm
  • 12:55:39: RenzXVI: No idea why Shockstorm would make a new identity though.
  • 12:55:43: CarloV3r: He even greeted people with "ohi"
  • 12:55:57: RenzXVI: Unless he admits it's him. XD
  • 12:56:26: CarloV3r: Can you leave me a message on Slack if he's in chat?
  • 12:56:34: RenzXVI: Ok.
  • 12:56:58: CarloV3r: (pinch)
  • 13:01:27: KINMUNE: Hello there, Ralvz'jeshka Shakaraph!
  • 13:01:40: Ralvz'jeshka Shakaraph: Renz
  • 13:01:48: CarloV3r: \o
  • 13:01:51: RenzXVI: HI
  • 13:01:56: Ralvz'jeshka Shakaraph: Hey car!
  • 13:02:06: Ralvz'jeshka Shakaraph: https://youtu.be/Mo5NXGOj3Ck check this out.
  • 13:02:08: KINMUNE: Dan Deacon - When I Was Done Dying
  • 13:03:52: CarloV3r: Well that's odd
  • 13:10:44: Ralvz'jeshka Shakaraph: I love this song now.
  • 13:35:29: KINMUNE: Hello there, The Beautiful Princess Ashley!
  • 14:54:25: KINMUNE: Hello there, Krystula!
  • 15:35:52: RenzXVI: http://i.imgur.com/wi0I85C.png
  • 16:40:28: Qahnaarin1997: Hello, Carlo. o/
  • 16:40:43: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: hi
  • 16:41:19: CarloV3r: \o
  • 16:43:26: Qahnaarin1997: I saw this trump meme where he was giving a speech, but it was a on pornhub, and the title was "Rich White guy fucks the entire country at once".
  • 16:44:25: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: lol
  • 16:44:34: CarloV3r: Lmao
  • 16:47:14: Qahnaarin1997: Has anyone here seen Guardians of the Galaxy 2 yet?
  • 16:47:27: CarloV3r: Atvel
  • 16:48:49: CarloV3r: Said it was terrible
  • 16:49:51: Qahnaarin1997: I liked it, but it wasn't as good as the first.
  • 16:49:55: Qahnaarin1997: Not nearly.
  • 16:50:46: CarloV3r: Haven't seen either :P
  • 16:51:33: KINMUNE: Hello there, DemonRapArtist!
  • 16:51:38: DemonRapArtist: Sih, dudes?
  • 16:51:47: DemonRapArtist: Suh*
  • 16:53:24: CarloV3r: Adding some Morrowind info, you?
  • 16:54:34: DemonRapArtist: Doing nothing recognizably productive.
  • 16:55:06: DemonRapArtist: Other than browsing some dank af maymays, that is.
  • 16:55:40: DemonRapArtist: I am a failure to the people I actually have the audacity to call my family, lol.
  • 16:57:49: CarloV3r: Better start working on that then
  • 16:58:06: Qahnaarin1997: Carlo, I picked up Prey today.
  • 16:58:17: Qahnaarin1997: Need to download it to my PS4.
  • 16:58:48: CarloV3r: Oh neat, have you played it yet?
  • 16:58:49: CarloV3r: Ah
  • 16:59:18: Qahnaarin1997: No, not yet.
  • 16:59:41: Qahnaarin1997: But I look forward to, now that I have some actual time off work.
  • 16:59:58: CarloV3r: Nice :)
  • 17:00:24: Qahnaarin1997: Anyways, I have been up for about 20 or so hours straight, so I'm getting some much needed rest.
  • 17:00:26: Qahnaarin1997: o/
  • 17:00:32: CarloV3r: \o
  • 17:00:33: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: gn
  • 17:01:42: DemonRapArtist: bye
  • 17:05:01: DemonRapArtist: Why do normies love Skyrim so much?
  • 17:05:39: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: because it's a good game? idk
  • 17:07:28: DemonRapArtist: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KluhulE3Zv8/Uch-YpshRkI/AAAAAAAAAZA/JDRTUGjYcCA/s1600/skyrim3.jpg
  • 17:07:38: DemonRapArtist: A normie Skyrim meme.
  • 17:07:54: DemonRapArtist: Absolutely disgusting.
  • 17:08:33: DemonRapArtist: https://i.redditmedia.com/xBzPiEe6LpJI33OHXAch5ml0LE_-XPQQSIljqdhO5us.jpg?w=640&s=d95f1dd9da9fded1aa1f99cebf844bce
  • 17:08:45: DemonRapArtist: A dank Skyrim meme.
  • 17:08:52: DemonRapArtist: Bootiful.
  • 17:09:09: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: those memes are awful
  • 17:10:06: DemonRapArtist: The first meme is awful. The second meme is beautiful.
  • 17:11:10: DemonRapArtist: If you're gonna blindly praise a game that is seriously flaw-ridden, then at least don't be a normie about it.
  • 17:11:11: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: no, they both suck
  • 17:12:29: DemonRapArtist: 😤😤😤 Then show me what you think is a good Skyrim meme.
  • 17:12:59: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: sorry, i can't be bothered to look for one
  • 17:13:20: KINMUNE: Hello there, Nekyn Alb!
  • 17:13:24: Nekyn Alb: Heeeello
  • 17:13:27: DemonRapArtist: HMMMM!
  • 17:13:55: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: hi
  • 17:14:01: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: no caps
  • 17:14:16: Nekyn Alb: Yeah, this is not the Fallout wiki
  • 17:14:27: Nekyn Alb: spend your caps elsweyr
  • 17:14:33: DemonRapArtist: True that.
  • 17:18:27: KINMUNE: Hello there, SirHadesOfNod!
  • 17:18:41: SirHadesOfNod: Hullo! :3
  • 17:18:47: DemonRapArtist: Gay.
  • 17:18:52: DemonRapArtist: lol
  • 17:18:53: DemonRapArtist: jk
  • 17:19:09: SirHadesOfNod: /me strangles Demon.
  • 17:20:01: SirHadesOfNod: Actually gtg
  • 17:20:06: SirHadesOfNod: sorry :(
  • 17:21:12: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: bye
  • 17:43:45: TheEnderLordBr: Ahhh...
  • 17:44:33: KINMUNE: Hello there, Kora Stormblade!
  • 17:44:43: TheEnderLordBr: Can someone help me?
  • 17:44:52: Kora Stormblade: What do you need help with?
  • 17:45:31: TheEnderLordBr: Quest Silenced Tongues does not want to start
  • 17:46:20: TheEnderLordBr: I cant't find Heddic's body or notes....
  • 17:46:48: Kora Stormblade: Did you explore Volunruud beforehand?
  • 17:46:57: TheEnderLordBr: Yep._.
  • 17:47:27: Kora Stormblade: That's probably what started the glitch then unfortunately
  • 17:47:46: Kora Stormblade: "The quest will not start if Volunruud is explored before reading the notes. Attempting to open the Elder's Cairn Door, even with both Ceremonial Weapons, will bring up the message "You lack the required item." Dropping the weapons and attempting to open the door should give the quest if it wasn't obtained from the book. Once the quest is obtained, picking up the weapons should allow the door to be opened."
  • 17:47:52: Kora Stormblade: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Silenced_Tongues
  • 17:48:40: Kora Stormblade: You could try that possibly? And if youre on pc maybe spawn both of the weapons
  • 17:48:56: Kora Stormblade: Or the notes themselves and see what that may do
  • 17:49:39: TheEnderLordBr: I tried it before
  • 17:50:03: Kora Stormblade: Are you on pc then?
  • 17:50:41: Kora Stormblade: I believe there's a console command which may manually start the quest for you
  • 17:51:15: TheEnderLordBr: Okay i'll try
  • 17:52:33: Kora Stormblade: Hey Ive got to go though so I wont be back till later, I hope it works out though
  • 17:52:44: TheEnderLordBr: And well... i tried "player,sqv dunvoluntuudqst"
  • 17:52:59: TheEnderLordBr: And it said something about the quest being disabled
  • 17:53:51: TheEnderLordBr: And Thabkf for the help...
  • 17:55:50: KINMUNE: Hello there, Atvelonis!
  • 17:55:55: Atvelonis: o/
  • 17:56:19: Atvelonis: afk, ping if needed
  • 18:06:22: CarloV3r: Atvelonis
  • 18:06:32: Atvelonis: yeah?
  • 18:06:41: CarloV3r: hey
  • 18:08:30: Atvelonis: (parrot)
  • 18:14:03: Nekyn Alb: Hello
  • 18:14:31: TheEnderLordBr: Ahh...There's a way to enable a disabled quest?
  • 18:15:25: CarloV3r: Console commands
  • 18:15:46: TheEnderLordBr: What command specificaly?
  • 18:16:04: Atvelonis: setstage would probably work
  • 18:16:07: Atvelonis: What quest do you want to start?
  • 18:16:28: TheEnderLordBr: Silenced Tongues
  • 18:16:28: CarloV3r: setstage <quest id> <stage value>
  • 18:16:46: CarloV3r: setstage dunVolunruudQST 1
  • 18:16:47: CarloV3r: I think
  • 18:17:31: Atvelonis: That sounds about right
  • 18:17:43: Atvelonis: Make a save before using any commands though, just in case you break something
  • 18:18:06: CarloV3r: And restart your game after using them if you're playing through Steam, it'll disable achievements
  • 18:19:36: TheEnderLordBr: And didn't work
  • 18:20:47: CarloV3r: What's it saying?
  • 18:22:21: TheEnderLordBr: When i tried player.sqv dunvolunruudsqt apaered something like
  • 18:22:52: CarloV3r: No, don't do that one
  • 18:22:59: CarloV3r: Type setstage dunVolunruudQST 1
  • 18:23:35: TheEnderLordBr: Enabled? No State: Stopped Current stage: 0 Priority: 40
  • 18:25:03: CarloV3r: Type the command I gave
  • 18:25:14: TheEnderLordBr: I typed it, and used the player.sqv to see the current status
  • 18:26:52: CarloV3r: Wait, I'll just check the quest stages
  • 18:28:02: CarloV3r: startquest/
  • 18:28:06: CarloV3r: I think startquest also work
  • 18:28:09: CarloV3r: *s
  • 18:28:13: CarloV3r: startquest dunVolunruudQST
  • 18:28:50: TheEnderLordBr: And nope didn't work
  • 18:28:51: KINMUNE: Hello there, WarDoctor42!
  • 18:30:10: KINMUNE: Hello there, Aramithius!
  • 18:30:55: CarloV3r: Odd, really don't know what else could fix it
  • 18:32:35: TheEnderLordBr: Well...i'll add the Aura Whisper shout manually
  • 18:32:45: TheEnderLordBr: But thanks for the help
  • 18:33:15: CarloV3r: No worries, sorry I couldn't find a solution
  • 18:36:33: TheEnderLordBr: Or....i could use the creation kit to do something
  • 19:00:07: KINMUNE: Hello there, The frye kid!
  • 19:00:17: The frye kid: hi????
  • 19:00:38: The frye kid: i made this for the venturian wiki XD
  • 19:01:18: Nekyn Alb: Hi
  • 19:04:43: The frye kid: hi
  • 19:04:51: The frye kid: Playing skyrim
  • 19:04:58: The frye kid: M
  • 19:06:07: CarloV3r: \o
  • 19:06:22: The frye kid: Mothel gards after me for..
  • 19:06:31: The frye kid: useing rage on a chicken
  • 19:08:07: The frye kid: NOOO JENASSA
  • 19:08:34: CarloV3r: No full caps
  • 19:08:38: The frye kid: ok
  • 19:09:53: The frye kid: Deal
  • 19:10:47: The frye kid: XD
  • 19:12:31: The frye kid: opps miss clicked
  • 19:14:41: The frye kid: ill die for jenasssa!!
  • 19:16:20: The frye kid: hello
  • 19:16:33: CarloV3r: \oo/
  • 19:17:33: The frye kid: Ugh
  • 19:17:50: The frye kid: why should go to morthel at lvl 3
  • 19:20:15: The Crusader of Truth: Hey peoples of evils
  • 19:20:22: The frye kid: Hello
  • 19:20:27: The frye kid: this is so hard
  • 19:20:46: The Crusader of Truth: Oo pleasant change theres more than just me here
  • 19:21:03: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: hi
  • 19:21:04: The frye kid: am at morthal at only LVL 3
  • 19:21:11: CarloV3r: \o
  • 19:21:30: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: what's so special about going to morthal at level 3?
  • 19:23:05: The frye kid: that its hard XD
  • 19:23:36: The Crusader of Truth: Not if you spend like 15 gold and grab a carriage lol
  • 19:23:52: The frye kid: i walked there on foot
  • 19:24:28: The frye kid: i hove 0 gold after i buyed jessaca
  • 19:24:45: Kora Stormblade: o/
  • 19:24:45: The frye kid: im still on the quest before you get lyndia
  • 19:25:45: Kora Stormblade: Yea morthal is pretty difficult, it's got chaurus and frostbite spiders everywhere xd
  • 19:26:07: The frye kid: XD jenassa is in the throne
  • 19:26:18: The frye kid: m giving her a crown
  • 19:26:46: The frye kid: OMG shes in a layn back chin on hand possicion
  • 19:27:07: Kora Stormblade: xd
  • 19:27:12: The Crusader of Truth: Position?
  • 19:27:19: The frye kid: yes
  • 19:27:57: The frye kid: and now i die because i dropped a sword and it hit someone
  • 19:28:48: Kora Stormblade: feelsbadman
  • 19:29:37: The Crusader of Truth: #theother1percent
  • 19:29:40: The frye kid: and jenassa has a giant toe fo some reason ive never killed a giant
  • 19:29:50: The frye kid: my skyrim hates me
  • 19:30:48: Kora Stormblade: oh god giants are the worst at low levels
  • 19:31:13: Kora Stormblade: Almost as bad as running into ancient or elder dragons at higher levels when theyre like insanely op
  • 19:31:44: The frye kid: now I dropped a thing that cost a 1000 and this GUY stole it
  • 19:32:07: The frye kid: #lifeasakhjaat
  • 19:34:27: The frye kid: Kora yes true
  • 19:34:43: Kora Stormblade: Yes :D that or mages
  • 19:35:05: The frye kid: am 2 handed and y sister uses only magic what are you guys
  • 19:35:12: Kora Stormblade: They like to run away while doing loads of damage
  • 19:35:36: Kora Stormblade: I use restoration magic sometimes but Im mainly a one-handed sword person
  • 19:35:52: Kora Stormblade: Was never able to really get into using just magic
  • 19:36:29: The frye kid: same
  • 19:37:57: The Crusader of Truth: Sword and shield is life
  • 19:37:57: CarloV3r: Pure mages are amazing late-game
  • 19:38:00: CarloV3r: Basically unbeatable
  • 19:38:12: Kora Stormblade: I think the one branch of magic I always find myself having a really high skill inis restoration
  • 19:38:15: Kora Stormblade: Oh yea definitely
  • 19:38:27: Kora Stormblade: it sucks having to fight a mage at level 40+
  • 19:38:32: The Crusader of Truth: True but almost everyone is unbeatable late game
  • 19:38:40: Kora Stormblade: Ehhh well
  • 19:38:51: The Crusader of Truth: /almost/
  • 19:39:04: CarloV3r: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXtHd25RyV4
  • 19:39:04: Kora Stormblade: depends xd for me when I was level 35 I could kill dragons with not much difficulty, but running into a pyromancer?
  • 19:39:04: KINMUNE: Trump Saying "WRONG!" Supercut
  • 19:39:07: Kora Stormblade: Pft nah
  • 19:39:12: Kora Stormblade: I die within like 5 seconds
  • 19:39:31: Kora Stormblade: I have yet to clear any mage forts due to this xd
  • 19:40:02: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i like magic, but i tend to prefer bows and sneaking
  • 19:40:44: Kora Stormblade: My character has a really high sneak and archery too, I mainly only use it if I get bored and shoot goats or small animals or clearing dungeons though
  • 19:41:21: CarloV3r: http://i.imgur.com/VBwsEQY.jpg
  • 19:41:53: Kora Stormblade: wow xd
  • 19:42:16: Kora Stormblade: http://imgur.com/j4p70OX
  • 19:42:22: The frye kid: XD RACEIST c
  • 19:42:55: The frye kid: ohh snakes
  • 19:43:14: CarloV3r: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h43ZOQooHOs
  • 19:43:17: KINMUNE: MotherTrucker dude that hurt like a buttcheek on a stick
  • 19:43:31: Kora Stormblade: ^^ xd
  • 19:44:01: The frye kid: you mean hes comming for a booty not the finger??'
  • 19:44:51: Kora Stormblade: exactly (Kappa)
  • 19:45:00: The frye kid: XD
  • 19:45:31: The frye kid: i cant find helga hadrids daughter
  • 19:45:56: The frye kid: NIRNROOT i can hear it calling my precious
  • 19:46:32: The frye kid: yes you want to do stuff stuff i have to do in a bedroom?? ok then
  • 19:48:36: Kora Stormblade: Nirnroots are awesome
  • 19:48:48: The frye kid: wsherer is she
  • 19:48:49: Kora Stormblade: Real easy to find too, lot better than finding jazbay grapes
  • 19:48:58: The frye kid: wait
  • 19:49:04: The frye kid: asULYM
  • 19:49:31: The frye kid: where is that ghost girl i play hide and seek iwith
  • 19:52:09: The frye kid: Where ios she
  • 19:52:32: Nekyn Alb: at Apple
  • 19:52:38: Kora Stormblade: o/
  • 19:52:43: The frye kid: wheres apple XD
  • 19:52:44: Kora Stormblade: ha nekyn xd
  • 19:53:05: The frye kid: OH i get it
  • 19:53:52: The Crusader of Truth: *becomes jealous of joke telling powers*
  • 19:54:20: RenzXVI: You were born a joke.
  • 19:54:24: Nekyn Alb: :]
  • 19:54:26: Nekyn Alb: lol
  • 19:54:28: The frye kid: OHHHH
  • 19:54:34: The Crusader of Truth: Wow rude
  • 19:54:40: The frye kid: ok wheres the ghost girl
  • 19:54:44: RenzXVI: What? I was helping you win.
  • 19:54:53: The Crusader of Truth: And you people say no one harasses me what is this
  • 19:55:16: RenzXVI: I have been quiet for hours... This is my combo breaker. Don't ruin it. XD
  • 19:55:27: The Crusader of Truth: *files report to Atv&
  • 19:55:40: RenzXVI: O_o
  • 19:55:41: The Crusader of Truth: See he has come
  • 19:55:41: The frye kid: WHEREZ GHOST GIRL
  • 19:55:47: Atvelonis: o/
  • 19:55:49: The frye kid: srry caps
  • 19:55:49: RenzXVI: Please no all caps.
  • 19:55:49: The Crusader of Truth: o/
  • 19:55:54: RenzXVI: And who's Ghost girl?
  • 19:56:00: The frye kid: in morthel
  • 19:56:17: Atvelonis: She's in the coffin on the hill
  • 19:56:20: CarloV3r: Kora
  • 19:56:24: The Crusader of Truth: brb grabbing food to stuff my ego
  • 19:56:28: Kora Stormblade: Yes?
  • 19:56:32: CarloV3r: Be right back
  • 19:56:33: The frye kid: what hill
  • 19:56:37: Kora Stormblade: xD
  • 19:56:40: Kora Stormblade: Ok o/
  • 19:57:03: Atvelonis: I don't remember, I haven't done that quest in 2 years
  • 19:57:05: Atvelonis: It's over some rocks
  • 19:57:10: Atvelonis: Near Helgi's house I think
  • 19:57:17: The frye kid: oh kk
  • 19:58:33: The frye kid: noo invisble ball
  • 19:58:42: The frye kid: OMG autocorrect
  • 19:58:43: The frye kid: wall
  • 20:00:59: Atvelonis: It's 4:00 now, so we'll wait for 10 minutes for stragglers before we start the moot.
  • 20:01:12: The frye kid: moot??
  • 20:01:19: Atvelonis: [[TES:Moot]]
  • 20:01:32: Atvelonis: On the first Saturday of every month we have a meeting where we discuss wiki business
  • 20:01:40: Atvelonis: You're welcome to participate if you'd like
  • 20:02:02: RenzXVI: Wow, I haven't been on these forever.
  • 20:02:11: The frye kid: all be back in like 2 hours if its still on ok then
  • 20:05:36: Nekyn Alb: Do you guys know any english words with these letters: "H_een"?
  • 20:06:19: RenzXVI: Just 1 blank space?
  • 20:06:33: Nekyn Alb: yes
  • 20:06:57: RenzXVI: nope
  • 20:07:01: Kora Stormblade: Maybe Hween?
  • 20:07:07: Kora Stormblade: Like short for Halloween?
  • 20:07:11: Kora Stormblade: All I can really think of tbh
  • 20:07:12: Aramithius: I'm now back, from running madly around the Corprusarium
  • 20:07:17: Kora Stormblade: Hey o.
  • 20:07:18: CarloV3r: Kora
  • 20:07:20: Aramithius: That sounds about right..
  • 20:07:21: Kora Stormblade: Yes?
  • 20:07:25: CarloV3r: I'm back
  • 20:07:38: Kora Stormblade: Are you sure?
  • 20:08:10: Nekyn Alb: Not Halloween
  • 20:08:16: Kora Stormblade: I take that as a no then carlo ;)
  • 20:08:23: Kora Stormblade: And hm that's really odd
  • 20:08:29: The Crusader of Truth: http://www.crosswordsolver.org/solve/h-een <-- Tried that, got nothing
  • 20:09:47: Kora Stormblade: Oh um Hueen maybe?
  • 20:10:11: Kora Stormblade: Hueen Sutherland?
  • 20:10:35: Nekyn Alb: It's in TES
  • 20:10:53: Kora Stormblade: o wtf
  • 20:10:55: Kora Stormblade: xx
  • 20:10:57: Kora Stormblade: * xd
  • 20:11:34: Atvelonis: Ok, so is this everyone?
  • 20:11:37: Atvelonis: hey Ashley
  • 20:11:41: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: hey atv
  • 20:11:47: RenzXVI: I am about to eat, but I'd be here.
  • 20:11:50: Kora Stormblade: Hveen maybe other than that nekyn Ive got no clues left
  • 20:11:54: Kora Stormblade: sorry m8
  • 20:13:00: Atvelonis: Alright so if that's everyone
  • 20:13:13: Aramithius: Yup
  • 20:13:28: Atvelonis: The moot is now in session! Who wants to go first?
  • 20:13:37: Atvelonis: I have two topics and they're both kinda lengthy
  • 20:14:00: Aramithius: Lets get them out of the way. I have one, but it may well just be whiny /d users that we don't need to worry to do much about
  • 20:15:02: Atvelonis: So to start off I have a proposal that we adopt a more structured system for staff applications
  • 20:15:21: Atvelonis: The inspiration for this is largely the Fallout Wiki's system, which I've found to be much more detailed than ours
  • 20:15:24: Atvelonis: Example of theirs: http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Adminship_request_-_JackiBackiBoy
  • 20:15:52: Atvelonis: Notice the organization and the amount of detail that he goes into to explain why he is apt for the position
  • 20:16:31: Atvelonis: You can compare this to one of ours, such as my bureaucrat application from last year, and you'll see that they're a lot less formal/structured http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_Wiki%3AAdministrators/Atvelonis_(2)
  • 20:16:50: Aramithius: As I think I said at the time, I really like the idea. But I'm curious as to what sort of guidelines we would give beforehand (word count, things to cover etc).
  • 20:17:10: Aramithius: And what posts would we apply this to? Admin and above, or mods too?
  • 20:17:34: Atvelonis: I was thinking everything. Ideally I want the bar to be raised for all positions
  • 20:17:40: CarloV3r: (Support) — Would give us a good representation of the person in question, and would make sure they've got all areas covered.
  • 20:17:58: Aramithius: Does that mean we all need to reapply? :P
  • 20:18:06: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: (+) seems good
  • 20:18:08: CarloV3r: Just you.
  • 20:18:10: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: lol
  • 20:18:14: Atvelonis: heh
  • 20:18:17: Atvelonis: Only future applicants will have to go through this process
  • 20:18:26: Aramithius: OK
  • 20:18:29: Aramithius: (+)
  • 20:18:35: Atvelonis: (+) from me as well, obviously
  • 20:18:41: Atvelonis: 4-0-0
  • 20:18:47: Aramithius: Although we need to hammer out the details (word count, areas etc)
  • 20:18:48: RenzXVI: (+)
  • 20:18:51: CarloV3r: The Crusader of Truth, Kora Stormblade
  • 20:18:56: Atvelonis: 5-0-0
  • 20:19:05: Atvelonis: For word count I was thinking 500. Perhaps 1000 would be too much
  • 20:19:11: Aramithius: Probably
  • 20:19:14: RenzXVI: Yeah 500
  • 20:19:16: Atvelonis: The Fallout application I linked was somewhere in the neigborhood of 600
  • 20:19:17: Kora Stormblade: I personally feel like our application system currently is fine, and its served us well for the years. It wont really improve the crop of admins or any other member applying so I'm neutral, but only because I think our current system is decent as it is
  • 20:19:22: The Crusader of Truth: (=) - Not paying attention like I should be because I have other issues, I would vote (+) but I dont think I caught all the details
  • 20:19:30: Atvelonis: 4-2-0
  • 20:20:03: Atvelonis: Nekyn?
  • 20:20:22: Aramithius: One thing it might do something towards is the "teh mods r corupt" accusations, as it makes the process more open.
  • 20:21:20: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: teh mods will allways be corrupt in the eyes of stupid /d users
  • 20:21:27: Nekyn Alb: I'm busy, sorry, what?
  • 20:21:35: KINMUNE: Hello there, Xeperos Septime!
  • 20:21:36: Atvelonis: Read above
  • 20:21:37: Atvelonis: hi
  • 20:21:37: Kora Stormblade: o/
  • 20:21:37: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: hi
  • 20:21:40: Xeperos Septime: hey
  • 20:21:49: Atvelonis: (you don't have to vote, we're just holding the moot right now nekyn)
  • 20:21:52: The Crusader of Truth: Teh moose ere corurupt!
  • 20:21:56: Nekyn Alb: Yeah, I noticed xD
  • 20:22:17: Nekyn Alb: Eh, can't say anything about it, go on
  • 20:22:31: CarloV3r: While we're on the topic of staff, I'd like to propose something.
  • 20:22:34: Atvelonis: Alright so if there are no further votes then it passes 4-2-0
  • 20:22:35: Atvelonis: Go ahead Carlo
  • 20:22:47: CarloV3r: I'd like to have staff evaluations soon.
  • 20:22:53: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: why?
  • 20:23:09: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i think our staff are functioning fine
  • 20:23:53: CarloV3r: Self reflections is never a bad thing, and we can get a good overview of how productive our current staff is, and if we can improve it.
  • 20:24:17: CarloV3r: *reflection
  • 20:24:23: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: true
  • 20:24:28: Aramithius: That would be helpful. Stop things simply being "how things are done" and make improvements more... maybe not quantifiable, but trackable
  • 20:24:31: Atvelonis: Personally I am not inclined to hold a staff re-evaluation unless more than ~50% of the staff has gone inactive
  • 20:24:39: Atvelonis: We've only ever held two, and we culled a huge portion of our staff with both
  • 20:25:23: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i don't think we should hold re-evaluations unless there are serious reasons to do so
  • 20:25:27: Aramithius: Oh, so it's a culling thing? I was imagining something closer to a work evaluation, in the vein of "you're good at this, you could improve at that, here's how"
  • 20:25:28: CarloV3r: We're not going to instantly demote anyone, and staff members don't have to be inactive in order to have a staff re-evaluation. We've all got areas we can improve ourselves in, and I'd like to make sure we're all aware of those.
  • 20:25:46: Aramithius: I think we might be meaning different things by "evaluation"
  • 20:26:20: Atvelonis: The re-evals are where we demote inactive users by popular vote. I think we could use something like Carlo's suggesting but I don't want it to have anything to do with demotions
  • 20:26:44: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i'm with atv on this
  • 20:26:59: Aramithius: Right, so do we have them but call them something else?
  • 20:27:07: Atvelonis: Progress reports? I dunno
  • 20:27:32: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: you don't need a special evaluation event to tell people what they're doing wrong though
  • 20:28:05: CarloV3r: Why would we name it differently? We're determining someone's worth and importance with a set of standards; evaluations.
  • 20:28:18: Atvelonis: Staff re-evals are literally where we demote people
  • 20:28:30: Atvelonis: Calling it that implies that we're demoting staff members when we aren't
  • 20:28:40: CarloV3r: Then tell them we're not demoting anyone?
  • 20:28:49: CarloV3r: The definition doesn't change.
  • 20:28:50: Atvelonis: Better to just call it something else to avoid confusion
  • 20:28:55: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: ^
  • 20:29:10: Aramithius: There's a difference between "wrong" and "could be better". Room for improvement isn't always something that gets looked at, particularly if it's "good enough" but not great
  • 20:29:16: Atvelonis: What you're proposing isn't really similar to our past re-evals
  • 20:29:41: Atvelonis: In the re-evals, the bureaucrats would basically list out all of the staff members and users would vote "yes keep them" or "no demote them"
  • 20:29:58: Atvelonis: It was a last-ditch effort to cut the fat, so to speak
  • 20:30:16: Atvelonis: I like your idea but it doesn't have to be called a re-eval to work
  • 20:30:34: CarloV3r: It's literally the definition of what I'm proposing.
  • 20:30:48: CarloV3r: But just go with something else, aslong as it keeps its purpose.
  • 20:30:51: The Crusader of Truth: Well, we're not really /re/-evaluating people, Staff Evaluations?
  • 20:31:10: Atvelonis: We can figure out the name later
  • 20:31:12: The Crusader of Truth: I dont know tbh Im not paying much attention thats probably dumb
  • 20:31:14: Atvelonis: That's not important anyway
  • 20:31:18: Aramithius: True
  • 20:31:40: Atvelonis: So how would these be structured? Who would write them?
  • 20:31:45: Aramithius: Would this be by one person, a particular group, or all staff?
  • 20:32:03: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: everyone should be able to say their thing, i think
  • 20:32:07: The Crusader of Truth: Fudge gotta go bye o.
  • 20:32:11: The Crusader of Truth: And I agree ^^
  • 20:32:13: Aramithius: Bye for now
  • 20:32:23: Aramithius: On each performance point, or generally?
  • 20:32:23: CarloV3r: We'll handle it internally through Slack, we'll mention a staffmember, and have other staffmembers give them constructive criticism.
  • 20:32:38: Atvelonis: I'd rather discuss it publicly
  • 20:32:48: Atvelonis: Even if regular users can't participate they should be able to see it
  • 20:33:00: CarloV3r: We'll have a set of basic performance points, which will each have to be addressed.
  • 20:33:14: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: non-staff have an interest in the functioning of staff too
  • 20:33:38: Aramithius: Agreed with Atv on the publicity. Although quite how much it'll come off as a circlejerk remains to be seen
  • 20:33:43: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i see no reason why they shouldn't participate
  • 20:34:22: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: if only staff get to participate, it might feed sentiments that "teh mods r corrupt"
  • 20:34:33: Atvelonis: My impression is that it's not a binding thing
  • 20:34:35: CarloV3r: I disagree. We should handle it internally. It's basically public criticism, which is demoralizing.
  • 20:34:49: CarloV3r: The fewer people, the better.
  • 20:35:06: Kora Stormblade: ^^^
  • 20:35:14: Atvelonis: Transparency is important, though. I don't want to include regular users but they should be able to view it
  • 20:35:23: Kora Stormblade: Im with carlo on this one tbh
  • 20:35:32: Aramithius: I would be a little sceptical on letting everyone have a voice, beyond just letting them see it. I can imagine some users (particularly from the /d) abusing it and posting rubbish.
  • 20:35:46: Kora Stormblade: It's basically a public criticism forum and that might not show off as well to everyone, highlighting the problems of each staff member
  • 20:36:06: Atvelonis: hmm
  • 20:36:10: Kora Stormblade: Yes it may be constructive, but I feel like it would be better and more efficient if it was handled by staff
  • 20:36:17: CarloV3r: It's non of their business, it's about staff productivity. Criticism is embarrassing to a certain extend, and I don't want to force staff members to have everyone see it.
  • 20:36:19: Kora Stormblade: And if nothing changes, /then/ the forum
  • 20:36:53: Atvelonis: So my understanding is that this is a progress report where staff members talk to each other constructively about how they can each improve
  • 20:37:04: Atvelonis: But it's not a vote or anything related to that
  • 20:37:15: CarloV3r: Pretty much.
  • 20:37:15: Aramithius: That's my understanding. Carlo?
  • 20:37:21: Aramithius: Gah, too slow
  • 20:37:36: Kora Stormblade: I think that would be the best idea honestly. It forces staff to get moving with their own things but not in a demoralizing way
  • 20:37:49: Aramithius: Maybe have it disclosed to the wiki if the staff member under review is happy with it being disclosed?
  • 20:38:02: Atvelonis: If this has no binding effects then the community doesn't need to be involved. It's just a feedback discussion for staff then
  • 20:38:06: Aramithius: Although that could come across as those who don't having something to hide
  • 20:38:17: Atvelonis: Problem is that Slack prunes messages very quickly
  • 20:38:24: Kora Stormblade: I just dont think its necessary for this to be such a public thing
  • 20:38:32: Atvelonis: It only stores 10,000 messages at once
  • 20:38:45: Aramithius: If we want something for a long-term record, we could easily create an archive page
  • 20:38:49: Kora Stormblade: If the staff members who have issues dont shapen up, ,then yes I would agree to public criticism
  • 20:39:01: Atvelonis: That's basically just a CT then
  • 20:39:21: Kora Stormblade: But also, as leaders you wouldnt really want to showcase all of the staff's issues publicily, because what kind of message is that sending the community?
  • 20:39:41: Kora Stormblade: When it could just as easily be handled internally but still get the same profuct
  • 20:39:44: Kora Stormblade: *product
  • 20:39:54: CarloV3r: ^
  • 20:40:19: Kora Stormblade: If there was something that didnt get fixed after the staff discussion between themselves, then a ct or public discussion would be helpful
  • 20:40:30: Kora Stormblade: But otherwise I think handling it internally first is our best option
  • 20:40:32: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: true
  • 20:41:19: KINMUNE: Hello there, Bronkiin!
  • 20:41:22: Atvelonis: I'm thinking up ways of how to get this to work on Slack
  • 20:41:23: Atvelonis: hey Bron
  • 20:41:27: Aramithius: Evening
  • 20:41:28: Kora Stormblade: o.
  • 20:41:35: Bronkiin: Carlo just msged me on Steam xd
  • 20:41:35: Atvelonis: Ooooh, we could use threads in Slack
  • 20:41:48: Atvelonis: So you know how in Slack you have the option of replying to a specific message?
  • 20:41:53: Atvelonis: It makes its own sort of thread
  • 20:42:13: Aramithius: And have a single message or each staff member?
  • 20:42:26: Atvelonis: In one channel, I could list out every staff member's name, and then the rest of the staff could reply to those individually
  • 20:42:36: Aramithius: Does that get round the message count issue, or is it still capped?
  • 20:42:55: Atvelonis: It's still capped but I can put it into a private pastebin or something afterwards
  • 20:43:05: Aramithius: That would work
  • 20:43:31: Atvelonis: How often would we do this?
  • 20:43:45: Atvelonis: Yearly is nowhere near enough. Monthly feels like too much of a hassle
  • 20:43:48: Atvelonis: To me, at least
  • 20:43:54: Atvelonis: Quarterly?
  • 20:43:57: Bronkiin: What's the proposal?
  • 20:44:01: Aramithius: Quarterly was my first thought
  • 20:44:03: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: quarterly is good
  • 20:44:06: Aramithius: Staff evaluations
  • 20:44:11: Atvelonis: not a re-eval
  • 20:44:15: Atvelonis: just a sort of progress report
  • 20:44:17: Aramithius: Feedback from other staff members on performance
  • 20:44:34: Atvelonis: Yeah, basically staff just give constructive criticism of each other and we can use that to improve
  • 20:44:37: Bronkiin: I think for members like Cat that could prove solely demoralising
  • 20:44:57: Atvelonis: Cat Master is doing great, idk
  • 20:45:09: Atvelonis: Not sure how he would be demoralized by constant praise
  • 20:45:20: Atvelonis: If you mean Khaleesi, she has an excuse for being inactive
  • 20:45:32: CarloV3r: Cat Master is a bit of a drama queen, granted. And I doubt he'll be very good at taking criticism, no offense.
  • 20:45:33: Bronkiin: Nah I mean Ser Pouce
  • 20:45:48: Atvelonis: It's a private thing, just between staff members. The community doesn't have to be involved
  • 20:46:08: Atvelonis: I haven't had any issues with him, dunno what you're on about. Great editor
  • 20:46:38: Bronkiin: He does have lapses. Not ones that matter, but ones you'd have to raise if these evals were to be worth anything.
  • 20:46:51: Atvelonis: They're not binding
  • 20:46:56: Atvelonis: It's just a way to gauge how we can each improve
  • 20:46:58: Bronkiin: Either you point them out and unnecessarily demoralise, or you ignore
  • 20:47:10: Atvelonis: We shouldn't just focus on the negative, though
  • 20:47:16: Atvelonis: Also the positive. Things they do well
  • 20:47:20: Bronkiin: You'd focus on both.
  • 20:47:33: Bronkiin: But then it'd be "Ser pouce, you're doing great but..."
  • 20:48:17: CarloV3r: We'll not writing a manifest, we'll just go through everything by a set of basic performance points.
  • 20:48:23: CarloV3r: *We're
  • 20:48:51: Atvelonis: hmm
  • 20:48:53: Bronkiin: So "Attitude": You were a bit grumpy here weren't you Cat Master?
  • 20:49:22: CarloV3r: Sure, why not.
  • 20:49:42: Atvelonis: Everyone has their grumpy days. We should focus on trends if anything, not specific lapses
  • 20:50:05: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: ^
  • 20:50:20: Bronkiin: If it's trends, it'll mean you can't focus on specifics. There'll be almost nothing to say.
  • 20:50:39: CarloV3r: We should focus on everything.
  • 20:50:42: Bronkiin: I think they're redundant because each staff member will respond differently to different methods.
  • 20:51:02: Bronkiin: Some like Shocky used to be and Cat are great editors but very sensitive
  • 20:51:07: Bronkiin: and its not worth risking that
  • 20:51:10: Aramithius: Not necessarily. You can say "in some situations, X happens. Y event is an example" to talk about trends and specific events
  • 20:51:20: Atvelonis: rip shcok
  • 20:51:22: Atvelonis: *shock
  • 20:51:30: CarloV3r: [[User:Ardora Forza|Shock]]
  • 20:51:30: Atvelonis: Yeah I see what you're saying bron
  • 20:51:48: CarloV3r: [[User:Ardore Forza|Shock]]
  • 20:52:13: CarloV3r: 99% sure
  • 20:52:36: Bronkiin: Shocky ;(
  • 20:52:38: Atvelonis: If we did a progress report of Dovahsebrom the positives would all be "writes great lore articles" and the negatives would all be "hasn't really been moderating lately." I absolutely don't want to risk disillusioning Dovah though
  • 20:52:49: Bronkiin: Yeh, and Rim is similar
  • 20:52:57: Bronkiin: not too active, but makes great edits
  • 20:54:22: Atvelonis: We would need to find a way of doing this without upsetting anyone
  • 20:54:50: Kora Stormblade: There should be a focus on edit quality more than overall activity
  • 20:55:11: Bronkiin: I think we do what we've done for a while. If there's are rooted problem with staff inactivity: re-eval
  • 20:55:30: Kora Stormblade: If they cant handle criticism then why are they even staff anyways? As a staff member if youre doing something wrong you need to be able to handle when someone points out that that area needs improving
  • 20:55:32: Bronkiin: If people are making mistakes, or an individual is not pulling his weight, the admins will talk to them in provate
  • 20:55:35: Kora Stormblade: Quality of moderating then
  • 20:55:44: Bronkiin: *private
  • 20:56:06: Atvelonis: Perhaps this could be a bureaucrat thing rather than the entire staff
  • 20:56:14: Atvelonis: Or administration rather since that would just be me and Tim
  • 20:56:20: CarloV3r: Administration, I hope?
  • 20:56:26: CarloV3r: Yeah ok
  • 20:56:57: RenzXVI: More burrowcats!
  • 20:56:58: Bronkiin: As in, only admins are regularly evalled? Or do evalling?
  • 20:57:07: Atvelonis: It's not a re-eval
  • 20:57:13: Bronkiin: I know
  • 20:57:16: Bronkiin: hence "eval"
  • 20:57:20: Atvelonis: But I meant that the admins would be giving the feedback
  • 20:57:21: Bronkiin: evaluation
  • 20:57:28: Bronkiin: ah ok
  • 20:57:44: CarloV3r: Administrators should be open to criticism too, though.
  • 20:57:57: Bronkiin: And, to be fair, they are
  • 20:58:08: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i don't see how only admins giving feedback would be better
  • 20:58:18: Atvelonis: It would be more personal, they could have a conversation
  • 20:58:23: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: true
  • 20:58:28: Bronkiin: That's what we do already, Atv
  • 20:58:37: Atvelonis: Yes but as a regular thing
  • 20:58:47: Atvelonis: Carlo's proposal is that we do it a little more formally
  • 20:58:47: Kora Stormblade: And what if the conversations have no effect?
  • 20:58:47: Bronkiin: No need for it to be regular.
  • 20:58:54: Bronkiin: Only if there's a problem with the user.
  • 20:59:02: Bronkiin: And if they have no effect, re-eval
  • 20:59:06: Bronkiin: Or CT
  • 20:59:09: Bronkiin: on that one staff member
  • 20:59:14: Bronkiin: But that's a last resort
  • 20:59:30: Aramithius: Well, the regular for everyone would help a move from good to great, so to speak, in a way that crisis management evals don't really do
  • 20:59:30: CarloV3r: That seems like a reasonable solution, yes. I do agree that having it done more personal might be better.
  • 21:00:00: Bronkiin: I agree personal is better, yes. But its already how we do things
  • 21:00:24: Bronkiin: Every staff member not pulling there weight is talked to for it.
  • 21:00:54: Bronkiin: *their
  • 21:00:59: CarloV3r: Good
  • 21:01:12: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: but staff members who are pulling their weight might still be able to improve
  • 21:01:13: CarloV3r: Right, and if that staff member doesn't take their criticism into account?
  • 21:01:33: Bronkiin: Then you move towards removing them.
  • 21:01:35: Aramithius: But a regular check-in for how things are going and how things could be made better, even if they're already good, would also be helpful, I think. Khaleesi checked in on me about a month or so after I started, to see how I was doing etc, and I assumed it was part of an official mentoring process or something
  • 21:01:52: Bronkiin: You speak to other staff members, and commit to a CT to remove them.
  • 21:02:21: Atvelonis: Perhaps it could be more of a meeting than an "admins tell you what you're doing right/wrong" thing
  • 21:02:43: Atvelonis: The users we're talking to could ask some questions and stuff that wouldn't otherwise be appropriate necessarily
  • 21:03:38: Aramithius: That would work, as far as I'm concerned
  • 21:03:41: Bronkiin: Yes. But we don't need a policy for that. It's done currently on a case by case basis
  • 21:03:41: CarloV3r: Administrators aren't off limits, though.
  • 21:04:14: Aramithius: Admins talk to Bureaucrats, and vice versa
  • 21:04:39: Aramithius: If it's not a formal promotion/demotion process, the levels don't really matter but it's a way of sorting it out
  • 21:04:49: Bronkiin: Admins aren't off limits *goes into Sajuuk mode* . If the community want them removed, they go.
  • 21:06:55: CarloV3r: Right
  • 21:07:12: RenzXVI: I still wish the more restriction to CTs thing gets done, like admins have a final say to things instead of any dumb idea will pass if everyone supports it. The opportunity to fix that might pass when there are bad critics on here again.
  • 21:07:37: Aramithius: I need to head for sleep, will need to catch up on everything that happened here later. Have fun, all
  • 21:07:41: Bronkiin: \o
  • 21:07:57: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: gn
  • 21:09:37: Atvelonis: It seems we haven't reached much of a conclusion
  • 21:09:47: Atvelonis: I'm personally not decided
  • 21:10:02: Bronkiin: Personally, i don't think a conclusion needs reaching, as I can't see a problem that needs solving.
  • 21:11:15: Atvelonis: We can revisit this at a later time if necessary
  • 21:11:22: Bronkiin: Yeh agreed ^
  • 21:11:25: Atvelonis: I have another topic, a bit shorter than my first
  • 21:12:33: Atvelonis: So our current way of handling ban appeals is for the offending user to argue with the admin who blocked them on their talk page until one side gives up. I'd like to make a more formal system of ban appeals to avoid that.
  • 21:13:08: Atvelonis: We could have a project page where users could make their appeals, which would have to describe what they did and why they think it's not deserving of a block etc.
  • 21:14:01: Atvelonis: And the administrators and other relevant staff would come up with a more official response (e.g. if some relevant stuff happened in the chat, the chat mods would weigh in)
  • 21:14:13: CarloV3r: Yeah sure, doesn't seem like a bad idea
  • 21:14:27: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i can agree with this
  • 21:14:28: Bronkiin: I guess making a specific forum for such things to take place in is more tidy
  • 21:14:56: Bronkiin: Yep I support it in principle
  • 21:15:06: Atvelonis: Vote?
  • 21:15:14: Atvelonis: (+)
  • 21:15:18: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: (+)
  • 21:15:28: CarloV3r: (Support)
  • 21:15:30: Kora Stormblade: (Support)
  • 21:15:40: Bronkiin: (+)
  • 21:15:57: Atvelonis: 5-0-0
  • 21:17:29: Kora Stormblade: o.
  • 21:18:09: Atvelonis: Alright so that passes
  • 21:18:19: Atvelonis: Do we have any other topics?
  • 21:19:57: CarloV3r: The staff thing
  • 21:21:28: Atvelonis: Staff thing?
  • 21:21:40: CarloV3r: That thing we've been talking about for the last 40 min lol
  • 21:22:44: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i think we agreed to discuss that on a later date
  • 21:23:12: Atvelonis: Yeah
  • 21:23:27: Kora Stormblade: Well a moot is open for any sort of discussion, so I don't really see why it should be shut off if he has new or different ideas
  • 21:23:50: CarloV3r: I don't
  • 21:24:48: CarloV3r: All right, let's leave it. We'll talk about it later
  • 21:24:54: Atvelonis: So any last topics before we end the moot?
  • 21:25:10: Bronkiin: Think I'm good
  • 21:25:25: Kora Stormblade: Same here
  • 21:25:59: Atvelonis: Ok then, the moot is no longer in session
  • 21:26:09: Atvelonis: Aramithius is doing the update, since he's asleep right now it'll be out tomorrow morning
  • 21:26:49: Bronkiin: Awesome gtgtgtg \o
  • 21:27:24: Kora Stormblade: o/ o/
  • 21:27:42: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: bye
  • 23:07:19: KINMUNE: Hello there, KhajiitFromElsweyr!
  • 23:42:58: Qahnaarin1997: Hey Kora and Ash
  • 23:43:04: Kora Stormblade: hey o.
  • 23:43:24: Qahnaarin1997: Kora, I saw the new Guardians movie today.
  • 23:43:28: Kora Stormblade: nice
  • 23:43:47: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: hi
  • 23:43:49: Kora Stormblade: also please dont ping me my volume for it is very loud
  • 23:43:55: Kora Stormblade: and how was it?
  • 23:44:18: Qahnaarin1997: It was good, not as good as the first
  • 23:44:27: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i haven't seen the 1st
  • 23:53:33: Tullin: hey
  • 23:53:36: Kora Stormblade: hey o.
  • 23:53:40: Tullin: how are ye
  • 23:54:03: Kora Stormblade: ye good y tu
  • 23:54:08: Kora Stormblade: ?
  • 23:54:20: Tullin: purnaq
  • 23:54:45: Kora Stormblade: wot
  • 23:55:25: Tullin: purnaq ?
  • 23:56:23: Kora Stormblade: ye
  • 23:56:25: Kora Stormblade: idk what that means xd
  • 23:56:51: Tullin: made up word
  • 23:57:04: Kora Stormblade: ah ok
  • 23:57:37: Tullin: :p
  • 23:57:52: Kora Stormblade: (Kappa)
  • 23:59:21: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: hi
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