- 00:00:21: The Crusader of Truth: About half of them are good, and the other half are somewhere between horrid and useless
- 00:05:43: Atvelonis: Most of our articles for the game suck too
- 00:06:09: Atvelonis: Though semi-recently there's been a guy fixing the quest walkthroughs up, or at least a few of them. http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/User:JPDurzel
- 00:07:10: KINMUNE: Hello there, DemFatCatz!
- 00:07:13: The Crusader of Truth: Yeah, I noticed. He's been going great. Our problems are mostly at creature and NPCs though
- 00:07:14: The Crusader of Truth: o/
- 00:07:20: Atvelonis: hi
- 00:07:23: Atvelonis: Yeah, and locations
- 00:07:44: The Crusader of Truth: About locations, I'm still not sure we really should have made a page for every city
- 00:07:52: Atvelonis: I'm in favor of cities but not dungeons
- 00:08:02: Atvelonis: And in this particular instance I don't want to create any more
- 00:08:05: Atvelonis: Until we have info on them
- 00:08:08: The Crusader of Truth: I think we should have done redirects to their region
- 00:08:15: DemFatCatz: Hello everyone
- 00:08:26: The Crusader of Truth: How are you, Dem?
- 00:08:26: DemFatCatz: what are we talking about?
- 00:08:28: Atvelonis: FWP did a lot of work on those, though. I don't want that to go to waste
- 00:08:32: Atvelonis: Our Daggerfall articles
- 00:09:00: DemFatCatz: oh ok.
- 00:09:30: The Crusader of Truth: FWP, me and Ned. I still think it would be better to change it to redirects, but eh
- 00:10:08: Qahnaarin1997: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO87Hkavw7o
- 00:10:09: KINMUNE: Jigolo Har Megiddo
- 00:11:03: Atvelonis: She uploaded many hundreds of photos and added info on all the locations
- 00:11:24: Atvelonis: I think it would be good to eventually document all the cities. But it's very low-priority
- 00:12:05: Atvelonis: Dungeons are another matter, though. Listing names of sublocations is one thing, but writing out walkthroughs for all of those dungeons is nigh impossible
- 00:12:21: The Crusader of Truth: Nigh is an understatement
- 00:12:23: Atvelonis: I can't remember if the dungeons are randomly generated. I'll check
- 00:12:43: Nekyn Alb: They are afaik
- 00:13:07: The Crusader of Truth: I know Privateer's Hold isn't
- 00:13:45: The Crusader of Truth: I'm also fairly sure most main quest related ones aren't
- 00:13:51: Nekyn Alb: Yep
- 00:14:05: Nekyn Alb: You can actually somehow bug every dungeon into being the same
- 00:14:15: Atvelonis: Ah yes: http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1617258-how-does-dungeon-layout-work-in-daggerfall/
- 00:14:30: The Crusader of Truth: @Nek How tho
- 00:14:43: Atvelonis: (my one post on the bethesda forums before they were tragically killed)
- 00:14:47: Atvelonis: So they were generated by a computer initially, but will be the same for every player. Apparently
- 00:15:03: Nekyn Alb: Dunno, I've seen it on a speedrun
- 00:15:07: Atvelonis: Still not sure it's worth it. There are thousands, and it would take several hours to do each one. Whereas a city can be done in minutes
- 00:15:48: Nekyn Alb: Being randomly created every time would take too much processing power or something
- 00:17:25: The Crusader of Truth: Personally, if we're going with dungeon pages (we already have a lot, if I remember right) we should have guides for the main quest dungeons but not the rest
- 00:17:36: Atvelonis: Yeah I think that would work
- 00:17:57: The Crusader of Truth: Problem is has any of us done the complete questline
- 00:18:18: Atvelonis: Shawn has, but he has no interest in editing
- 00:18:22: Atvelonis: Rim might have
- 00:18:28: The Crusader of Truth: Hmm
- 00:18:35: The Crusader of Truth: I know what I'm about to be doing then, I suppose
- 00:18:51: Atvelonis: We still don't seem to have a perfect chronology of all the quests
- 00:19:00: Atvelonis: I seem to recall there being some level of confusion about the names
- 00:19:22: The Crusader of Truth: The game doesn't give any quests official names, from what I've seen
- 00:19:41: The Crusader of Truth: In the past I know of, UESP and us have had vastly different names for the same exact quest
- 00:20:56: The Crusader of Truth: Im sure it's probably in a manual or something but I've never seen it
- 00:20:58: Atvelonis: Do any of the guides give official names, I wonder?
- 00:21:02: Atvelonis: I'll check. Hold on
- 00:21:48: The Crusader of Truth: Hey if it's okay if your collection of TES pdfs are in a folder can you give me access to the folder so I dont need to ask for permission as I use them
- 00:22:12: Atvelonis: Way too lazy to work that out
- 00:22:19: Atvelonis: I can grant you permission to any of them
- 00:22:32: The Crusader of Truth: It's not very hard, if you have them all in a folder just hit share on the folder
- 00:23:04: Atvelonis: mmm
- 00:23:11: The Crusader of Truth: Unless you don't have them organized into a single folder, which would honestly surprise me
- 00:23:27: Atvelonis: My TESWiki account is actually incredibly disorganized
- 00:23:31: Atvelonis: I'm slightly ashamed of it
- 00:23:55: The Crusader of Truth: It's okay
- 00:24:01: Atvelonis: lol
- 00:24:09: Nekyn Alb: We don't kinkshame here
- 00:25:18: The Crusader of Truth: Well i have the chronicles and player guide shared with me, can you share the other daggerfall stuff with me?
- 00:25:43: The Crusader of Truth: That's the stuff I actually occasionally need, so it would be nice to have them
- 00:26:11: Atvelonis: I think that's the only Daggerfall PDFs I have
- 00:26:26: Qahnaarin1997: Atvel
- 00:26:31: The Crusader of Truth: Hang on, I can look on your old hidden list
- 00:26:47: Qahnaarin1997: Are you going to play Fractured but Whole?
- 00:29:51: The Crusader of Truth: You're right Atv, those are the only two
- 00:30:35: Atvelonis: I haven't played the first one yet, Qahn. Not sure I ever will :P
- 00:30:44: Atvelonis: I want to, but I have so many other games to play first
- 00:31:15: Qahnaarin1997: Algood. But go play The Witcher 3 ffs
- 00:31:40: Atvelonis: One of these days
- 00:33:21: Nekyn Alb: "We are pleased to provide you with you a special invite to your local city nympho secret club." "With kind regards, Administrator" "Hugs"
- 00:35:10: Atvelonis: Haha
- 00:37:25: Qahnaarin1997: What?
- 00:37:35: Qahnaarin1997: Do they mean nymphomaniac?
- 00:38:02: Nekyn Alb: yes
- 00:38:48: Qahnaarin1997: Dude, that's pretty hot
- 00:38:56: Qahnaarin1997: You should join
- 00:39:03: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: good morning chat
- 00:40:09: Atvelonis: evening
- 00:40:14: Atvelonis: how are you?
- 00:40:24: Nekyn Alb: I clicked the link they provided and now it downloads the nymphos on my PC
- 00:40:25: Nekyn Alb: hi
- 00:40:57: Jr seriel: Relaxing, watching the caveliers game
- 00:41:01: Jr seriel: You?
- 00:41:12: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i'm well, just got up
- 00:41:16: Jr seriel: *cavaliers
- 00:42:06: Qahnaarin1997: I'm in the process of taking over New Vegas.
- 00:42:23: Jr seriel: Dude you have been playing that all day
- 00:42:54: Qahnaarin1997: What are you, my mother?
- 00:43:10: Jr seriel: Wait I thought you were pillaging the capital wasteland
- 00:43:14: Qahnaarin1997: Plus, it's my day off of work.
- 00:43:26: Qahnaarin1997: Oh no, I finished Fallout 3 today
- 00:43:34: Jr seriel: Oh nice!
- 00:43:45: Qahnaarin1997: Ended up sacrificing myself for project purity
- 00:44:04: Qahnaarin1997: My character already had insanely good karma
- 00:44:09: Jr seriel: Did you do broken steel?
- 00:44:25: Qahnaarin1997: No. I'm using PS Now for them.
- 00:44:33: Qahnaarin1997: No DLC available
- 00:44:47: Jr seriel: Ahh
- 00:47:40: Qahnaarin1997: I'm level 3 and I am heading to the BoS Bunker site in hidden valey
- 00:47:43: Qahnaarin1997: Valley*
- 00:48:00: Qahnaarin1997: I already know there are a lot of shit that can fuck me up, but loot
- 00:49:16: Jr seriel: It's been many years since I played it. I don't remember what dangers are there for a level 3 or the available loot in the area but I do remember the bunker
- 00:52:38: Jr seriel: The worst part about watching Cavs games are their local commercials. They are very cringe worthy
- 00:53:38: Jr seriel: Do you guys remember a sotha member ?
- 00:54:59: Atvelonis: Hmm?
- 00:55:09: Atvelonis: A user?
- 00:55:15: Qahnaarin1997: Ummm
- 00:55:24: Qahnaarin1997: I almost got fucked up
- 00:55:33: Jr seriel: Yeah I think that's what his name was
- 00:55:36: Qahnaarin1997: Giant Rad scorp at level 3
- 00:55:43: Jr seriel: Maybe it was sothal
- 00:55:53: Jr seriel: Did you kill em?
- 00:56:31: Atvelonis: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/User%3ASothas http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/User%3ASothaSil http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/User%3ASotha_Chill
- 00:57:47: Jr seriel: Sothas I think. I remember a heated thread that I read back in the day regarding if MK was Canon or not with Jauffre and sothas getting at it
- 00:58:38: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i think i remember that guy
- 00:58:42: Atvelonis: Oh yes http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:965714
- 00:58:53: Atvelonis: That's the one
- 00:59:28: Jr seriel: Hahaha yes that is the one !
- 01:01:07: Nekyn Alb: I know Sothas from r/teslore
- 01:02:16: Jr seriel: Any good conversations over there ?
- 01:02:25: Nekyn Alb: Yeah
- 01:02:30: Nekyn Alb: A lot of repetition tho
- 01:03:49: Qahnaarin1997: SO I found some dead BoS Soilders
- 01:03:56: Qahnaarin1997: And now I have advanced rad poisoning
- 01:03:59: Atvelonis: My favorite TES forum has always been the official bethesda forum
- 01:04:03: Jr seriel: Are you supposed to?
- 01:04:13: Atvelonis: Though it's not the same anymore, after they moved it
- 01:04:24: Jr seriel: Where did they move it?
- 01:04:25: Nekyn Alb: It's terribly unorganised
- 01:04:39: Atvelonis: http://forums.bethsoft.com/ was the old one
- 01:04:57: Atvelonis: https://bethesda.net/community/ is the new one
- 01:05:05: Atvelonis: Old one was infinitely better formatted. God I miss it
- 01:05:14: Atvelonis: I only ever made 1 post, but I lurked constantly
- 01:05:48: Atvelonis: The new one is just... bad. They took all of the good features of the old forum and cut them all out to make it more "streamlined"
- 01:05:59: Atvelonis: Visually it looks pretty bad too
- 01:06:07: Jr seriel: Oh yeah they changed when they did their rebranding
- 01:06:40: The Crusader of Truth: Atv, just a heads up you have a TP
- 01:07:21: Jr seriel: I say it's hard finding TES forums that are still active considering that Skyrim is way out of season now and the ESO fanbase is kind of flakey at times
- 01:07:56: Atvelonis: Our Forums are reasonably active. Our Discussions are a bit more active
- 01:07:57: Nekyn Alb: Skyrim isn't out of season, lol
- 01:08:02: Atvelonis: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Forum
- 01:08:06: Atvelonis: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/d
- 01:08:18: Nekyn Alb: It's like a rotting lich that's constantly getting resurrected
- 01:08:45: Jr seriel: Hahaha it's 6 years old
- 01:08:48: Atvelonis: Discussions community isn't the brightest out there, though. It'll never be remotely near the quality of the original Bethesda forums
- 01:09:27: Atvelonis: Which kind of saddens me: Wikia is putting so much effort into this product, but it obviously isn't a viable replacement even for our 2.0 Forums. Which are already semi lame
- 01:09:51: Atvelonis: I'm just preaching to the choir here
- 01:10:16: Nekyn Alb: Wikia just gets out half finished things and wonders why everybody complains
- 01:10:24: Jr seriel: So where did all of the Bethesda forums folks go?
- 01:10:33: Nekyn Alb: and then they somehow mess up so they can't fix it
- 01:10:36: Atvelonis: Either to the new forums, or they just left
- 01:10:43: Atvelonis: Some probably went to /r/teslore
- 01:10:48: Jr seriel: Sid some come here ?
- 01:10:53: Jr seriel: *did
- 01:10:56: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: the 2.0 forums do their job well in my opinion
- 01:10:59: Atvelonis: Possibly. I doubt it though
- 01:11:02: Qahnaarin1997: I just discovered Helios One xD
- 01:11:03: Atvelonis: If so, not a lot
- 01:11:05: Atvelonis: Surely some
- 01:11:27: Jr seriel: What is the 2.0 forums is that the same as the new Bethesda forums
- 01:11:39: Atvelonis: 2.0 Forums refers to our forums on the wiki [[Special:Forum]]
- 01:12:15: Nekyn Alb: what are 1.0 Forums?
- 01:12:17: Atvelonis: @Ashley: they work fine for our purposes, but there are a lot of things that bother me. Mainly that AWB can't edit any forum comments, for some reason
- 01:12:31: Atvelonis: @Nekyn: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Index
- 01:12:34: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: AWB?
- 01:12:42: Nekyn Alb: AutoWikiBrowser, bot
- 01:12:49: Atvelonis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser
- 01:13:02: Nekyn Alb: oh, that weird thing
- 01:13:08: Atvelonis: @Nekyn: we may return to the 1.0 forums in the future, once the 2.0 forums are merged with Discussions
- 01:13:10: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: ah
- 01:13:32: Jr seriel: Who maintains this mediawiki environment ?
- 01:13:33: Atvelonis: Because the /d community is simply incapable of making policy decisions
- 01:13:41: Nekyn Alb: lol
- 01:13:45: Qahnaarin1997: I just got access to BoS bunker xD
- 01:13:58: Atvelonis: @Jr seriel: Wikia is on an old version of MediaWiki, not exactly the same as Wikipedia's
- 01:14:08: Atvelonis: But I think it's operated by the Wikimedia Foundation?
- 01:14:28: Nekyn Alb: I'm quite happy with the frequent audience on the German wiki, they are not stupid. Not all the brightest, but eh, they are about 14, what can you do
- 01:14:41: Jr seriel: I mean more like who owns the server that this is hosted on is it a community or a single person?
- 01:15:08: Atvelonis: This is a subdomain of wikia.com, so it's owned by Wikia. Though there are a few local staff members who run the day-to-day business of it
- 01:15:26: Atvelonis: [[TES:Staff]]
- 01:15:34: Atvelonis: On chat that's everyone with a star next to their name
- 01:15:54: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: which is the majority of chat users nowadays
- 01:16:00: Nekyn Alb: "The Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. (WMF, or simply Wikimedia) is an American non-profit and charitable organization"
- 01:16:00: Atvelonis: Wikia doesn't really care to interfere with local dealings. So we have a decent level of autonomy in terms of policy, formatting, etc.
- 01:16:01: Atvelonis: yeah lol
- 01:16:28: Atvelonis: hi kora
- 01:16:31: Kora Stormblade: hi atv
- 01:16:43: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: hi
- 01:16:51: Kora Stormblade: hey
- 01:16:53: Nekyn Alb: If Wikia would interfere more, they wouldn't do so many stupid things
- 01:17:06: Kora Stormblade: o.
- 01:17:08: Atvelonis: Well, they might have a better understanding of what we actually need
- 01:17:12: Nekyn Alb: The people who work there are so nice but they do so weird things
- 01:17:15: Nekyn Alb: Hello
- 01:17:17: Jr seriel: Why doesn't someone take the wikia framework and host it yourselves somewhere that way you would have complete control over everything
- 01:17:31: Kora Stormblade: I don't think it works that way
- 01:17:44: Atvelonis: @Jr seriel: you can do that, MediaWiki can be used by anyone. Problem is that Wikia technically owns the content on this particular wiki
- 01:17:50: Atvelonis: So if we forked, a copy would remain on here
- 01:17:57: Atvelonis: Meaning we would be competing against our former selves
- 01:18:09: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: all we'd do is create a new rival
- 01:18:13: Nekyn Alb: you'd also have to pay server costs
- 01:18:15: ShawnCognitionCP: Also, the /insane/ amount of user loss in relation to what we currently have.
- 01:18:26: Atvelonis: Yeah, Wikia does do us a gigantic favor with their SEO
- 01:18:26: Jr seriel: Yeah server costs would be like 5 dollars a month
- 01:18:30: Atvelonis: lol no
- 01:18:31: ShawnCognitionCP: No one would know our no-name piece of shit site.
- 01:18:33: Kora Stormblade: xd
- 01:19:00: Atvelonis: We get something like 800k-1mil views a day these days. Server operating costs would be quite high
- 01:19:03: Jr seriel: SEO is easy peasy stuff wouldn't be hard to do
- 01:19:24: Jr seriel: Ok yeah it would be like 20 dollars a month depending on the app server
- 01:20:14: Kora Stormblade: atv I just saw that one guy who joined on discord and his name jesus christ xd
- 01:20:14: Jr seriel: Wait so who gets the most traffic? The sub Reddit, Bethesda forum, or this?
- 01:20:35: Kora Stormblade: Im pretty sure this gets a good amount of traffic actually, I wouldn't be surprised if it got the most
- 01:20:41: Nekyn Alb: I think the costs can rise in the hundreds
- 01:20:50: Jr seriel: I feel like it gets the most too
- 01:20:53: The Crusader of Truth: "BigPu33ylips"
- 01:20:54: The Crusader of Truth: dank
- 01:20:56: Kora Stormblade: "It's a bird! It's a plane! Nevermind, it's just BigPu33ylips."
- 01:21:03: Kora Stormblade: it's so perfect
- 01:21:11: Atvelonis: To run a site this big it would cost hundreds or thousands of dollars per month
- 01:21:28: The Crusader of Truth: >When you mistake big pussy lips for a plane
- 01:21:33: Nekyn Alb: According to WAM, this wiki is ranked at number 10 worldwide
- 01:21:47: Atvelonis: I'm not sure how much traffic the Bethesda forums or /r/teslore get
- 01:22:13: Jr seriel: That is pretty impressive. So what is the biggest issue plagueing this site right now ?
- 01:22:17: Atvelonis: Lack of editors
- 01:22:19: Atvelonis: Definitely
- 01:22:47: Jr seriel: Okay. How about from a technical inability perspective?
- 01:23:09: Jr seriel: You mentioned something about not being to edit replies. Stuff like that
- 01:23:12: Nekyn Alb: r/teslore has about 6000 unique user views a day
- 01:23:18: Atvelonis: We have exactly 1 guy who handles most of the advanced code stuff. [[User:Flightmare|Flightmare]]
- 01:24:00: Atvelonis: Any and all back-end issues are handled by Wikia
- 01:24:08: Atvelonis: Which is really nice, because it means we don't have to focus on that at all
- 01:24:15: Atvelonis: Flight handles almost everything technical that they don't
- 01:24:29: Atvelonis: Including running KINMUNE in chat, on Discussions, etc.
- 01:24:43: Atvelonis: KINMUNE, are you feeling alright today?
- 01:24:45: KINMUNE: Yes.
- 01:24:49: Atvelonis: good bot
- 01:25:56: Nekyn Alb: Oh nice, I just got some extra time to waste
- 01:25:58: The Crusader of Truth: KINMUNE, if I was a teacher, what class would I teach? [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAgko8fAWAM | ]]
- 01:26:01: KINMUNE: How To Be Sexy
- 01:26:05: Nekyn Alb: lol
- 01:26:07: Jr seriel: Lol
- 01:26:43: Atvelonis: That's a new one lol
- 01:26:51: The Crusader of Truth: The magic bot has spoken
- 01:27:03: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: didn't know f that command
- 01:27:25: Jr seriel: The Cavs lost :(
- 01:27:59: ShawnCognitionCP: Penn State vs Ohio State was 14 - 0 in five minutes, Penn state leading
- 01:28:02: ShawnCognitionCP: And Penn state lost
- 01:28:49: Jr seriel: I know I was watching it before the Cavs game. Great game but I was rooting for my Alma mater
- 01:29:06: Nekyn Alb: Crus is cheating
- 01:29:37: The Crusader of Truth: ^
- 01:29:49: Kora Stormblade: lmao shawn guess how bad our football team is
- 01:29:53: Kora Stormblade: 7-62
- 01:30:09: Kora Stormblade: (y)
- 01:30:28: ShawnCognitionCP: Now take a second to realize that's where 50%+ of your extracurricular budget goes.
- 01:30:48: Kora Stormblade: Well over 50 tbh
- 01:30:56: Kora Stormblade: Theyve only won 1 game this year
- 01:30:57: Kora Stormblade: And last year
- 01:31:01: Kora Stormblade: :[[]])
- 01:31:50: Kora Stormblade: It's cos the "big five" are on the team, that is, rich white boys who's daddies own the town, so they get all the money and corrupt the system by sweeping any bad shit they do under the rug (pinch)
- 01:32:20: Jr seriel: Why are they called the big five?
- 01:32:49: Kora Stormblade: Cos it's five boys whos dads own everything basically
- 01:33:00: The Crusader of Truth: I have big five fingers on my hand, why aren't they the big five tho
- 01:33:06: Kora Stormblade: shieet you right
- 01:33:14: Kora Stormblade: also brb gonna eat o.
- 01:33:15: The Crusader of Truth: we all rule dat town boi
- 01:33:24: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: bc those on my hand are better
- 01:33:32: The Crusader of Truth: but no
- 01:33:37: The Crusader of Truth: my big five are free
- 01:33:41: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: they're part of me, and i'm better than you
- 01:33:43: ShawnCognitionCP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32oXPw_iDu0
- 01:33:45: KINMUNE: М8Л8ТХ (M8L8TH) — Слёзы осени (Tears of the Autumn) [2013]
- 01:33:55: The Crusader of Truth: Yours are under the horrors of communist not-america
- 01:35:40: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: at least that means they're all equal
- 01:35:49: KINMUNE: Hello there, Sawpog46!
- 01:35:51: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: hi
- 01:35:54: The Crusader of Truth: o/
- 01:35:56: Sawpog46: Holaa
- 01:36:01: Sawpog46: Wassup
- 01:36:13: ShawnCognitionCP: >Implying America doesn't have equality.
- 01:36:15: Jr seriel: Buenas dias amigo
- 01:36:34: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: communism claims to bring equality to all
- 01:36:54: Sawpog46: Buenas noches jaja
- 01:36:57: ShawnCognitionCP: Technically true, equality in death and a collapsed state.
- 01:36:57: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: also, in a functioning society, people aren't equal
- 01:37:10: Sawpog46: 9:37 here
- 01:37:13: The Crusader of Truth: Hablas ingles por favor
- 01:37:17: Sawpog46: Si
- 01:37:30: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: people should be judged on merit, not on some notion that everyone has equal value
- 01:37:39: Sawpog46: Everyone does hav equal value tho
- 01:37:47: ShawnCognitionCP: You're mixing up societal equality and legal equality.
- 01:37:50: ShawnCognitionCP: They don't.
- 01:37:50: Jr seriel: No problemo crus
- 01:38:43: ShawnCognitionCP: Legal equality means you can't be punished on account of your genes or profiling attached to it. Societal equality is how you're viewed, who's about who on that scale, who has the highest impact, et cetera.
- 01:39:12: Sawpog46: Dont we have both or m I wrong
- 01:39:29: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: communism says everyone should have the same bc people are equal
- 01:39:31: The Crusader of Truth: We don't have social equality
- 01:39:37: The Crusader of Truth: But we have legal equality
- 01:39:40: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: which is stupid and unfair
- 01:39:43: ShawnCognitionCP: Societal equality isn't bound by any laws.
- 01:39:58: Jr seriel: Life isn't fair
- 01:40:00: ShawnCognitionCP: It's a social construct, meaning it is moreso the grand compilation of how each individual thinks.
- 01:40:05: ShawnCognitionCP: We have social equality.
- 01:40:08: The Crusader of Truth: We can't force people to believe a certain way, we can only arrest them if they act on something that doesn't promote equality
- 01:40:25: Jr seriel: Not necessarily crus
- 01:40:29: ShawnCognitionCP: Social inequality would moreso be Moral Police, like you see in India and some Middle Eastern nations.
- 01:40:39: The Crusader of Truth: Yeah, there's almost always a not necessarily
- 01:40:40: Sawpog46: I thought by that definition u gave before that America has both
- 01:40:49: Sawpog46: Idk maybe I read it wrong
- 01:40:56: The Crusader of Truth: But for the most part the statement holds true
- 01:41:04: ShawnCognitionCP: Or the masses in a widespread support for crimes against a certain race.
- 01:41:29: Sawpog46: Moral Police is a thing?
- 01:41:32: Jr seriel: There are many things in society that don't promote equality. Like captialism for example. And that is not illegla
- 01:42:09: ShawnCognitionCP: Capitalism promotes equality, and yes, capitalism is a great thing.
- 01:42:12: Sawpog46: ^
- 01:42:16: ShawnCognitionCP: The world hyperpower is built on capitalism.
- 01:42:31: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: capitalism is fair. everyone having the same would be unfair toward those who contribute more
- 01:42:43: ShawnCognitionCP: Capitalism promotes competition and work resulting in reward. Both of these are precious in a functioning society.
- 01:42:44: Jr seriel: It does not promote equality it promotes competiive advantage not sharing the wealth equally
- 01:42:58: ShawnCognitionCP: "Sharing the wealth" is inequality.
- 01:43:02: Sawpog46: Y would u share the wealth equally
- 01:43:04: Sawpog46: Thas ridiculous
- 01:43:23: ShawnCognitionCP: Stripping people of their earned money through taxation abuse and giving to people that don't deserve it and haven't worked for it.
- 01:43:28: ShawnCognitionCP: The government isn't Robin Hood.
- 01:43:38: ShawnCognitionCP: They exist to lead and support, not pander.
- 01:43:41: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: "sharing the wealth" means getting rid of it, as we saw in the USSR
- 01:44:12: Sawpog46: Taxation is dumb
- 01:44:18: ShawnCognitionCP: Taxation is not dumb.
- 01:44:22: Jr seriel: Necessary
- 01:44:26: ShawnCognitionCP: Taxation abuse is another topic, where it's unjustified.
- 01:44:35: Sawpog46: Ik that some taxation is good for government use
- 01:44:35: ShawnCognitionCP: Pre-revolution America is an example.
- 01:44:35: Atvelonis: Ok we're getting into libertarian territory here. Taxes are great. I like being able to drive on roads paid for by taxes
- 01:44:39: ShawnCognitionCP: Taxation without representation.
- 01:44:53: Sawpog46: But dont we spend money on taxes and our country is rlly bad in debt
- 01:44:58: Atvelonis: noooo
- 01:45:03: ShawnCognitionCP: Taxes are why we have roads, emergency services (police, firemen, et cetera)-
- 01:45:08: ShawnCognitionCP: Taxation is self-circling.
- 01:45:15: ShawnCognitionCP: Government proposes wages
- 01:45:16: Atvelonis: 1) Most of that debt is owed to ourselves 2) The debt that isn't owed to ourselves isn't a problem
- 01:45:18: Jr seriel: And a military
- 01:45:19: ShawnCognitionCP: Job pays you wage
- 01:45:23: ShawnCognitionCP: You collect wage
- 01:45:29: ShawnCognitionCP: Percentage of wage goes back to government
- 01:45:30: The Crusader of Truth: Almost every country in the world is in debt, we aren't special
- 01:45:35: Sawpog46: So they lie when they say on TV that we owe trillions of dollars?
- 01:45:44: Jr seriel: 20 trillion
- 01:45:51: Atvelonis: No, they aren't lying. It's just not as big a deal as the media makes it out to be.
- 01:45:52: Sawpog46: Thats fucked up
- 01:45:59: ShawnCognitionCP: A lot of that is owed to the federal reserve.
- 01:46:01: Sawpog46: How is that not a big deal
- 01:46:05: Atvelonis: Hamilton sometime in the 18th century: "A national debt, if it is not excessive, will be to us a national blessing."
- 01:46:06: Jr seriel: It is kind of big deal
- 01:46:13: ShawnCognitionCP: Because governmental debt works differently than your debts and mine.
- 01:46:23: ShawnCognitionCP: Nations want others to owe them, not pay it back right away.
- 01:46:25: Atvelonis: His rationale for borrowing money from other countries is that to pay off that debt, they can just borrow more... from a different country.
- 01:46:36: Atvelonis: And to pay off that, borrow from a different country. And so on
- 01:46:48: Atvelonis: Sounds shaky, but it's worked for a very long time
- 01:46:53: ShawnCognitionCP: Say your nation owes America one trillion dollars.
- 01:47:03: ShawnCognitionCP: America's interests aren't going to include getting that trillion.
- 01:47:12: ShawnCognitionCP: Instead, they'll want you to hold that debt.
- 01:47:24: Jr seriel: But what happens if a mirrage of circumstances lead to them trying to sell our treasury bonds back to us. And we don't have the reserve to buy them back then what
- 01:47:31: ShawnCognitionCP: It builds a cooperative environment and reduces the likelihood you'll fuck around, since they can bring your debt into play.
- 01:47:39: ShawnCognitionCP: National debts are a tool.
- 01:48:11: ShawnCognitionCP: Seeing as America is the global hyperpower, it's obvious it would have such a high debt.
- 01:48:13: Sawpog46: Damn
- 01:48:18: Sawpog46: Thats crazy
- 01:48:26: Sawpog46: So they use debts against eachother
- 01:48:36: Sawpog46: What a bunch of sharks
- 01:48:53: ShawnCognitionCP: The world doesn't function by being nice.
- 01:48:59: ShawnCognitionCP: It functions by being efficient.
- 01:49:49: Sawpog46: Ur right
- 01:49:53: Sawpog46: Damn its a harsh world
- 01:50:18: Sawpog46: So paying off those trillions wouldnt help us at all?
- 01:50:29: Jr seriel: It would help us tremendously
- 01:50:56: ShawnCognitionCP: It wouldn't.
- 01:50:59: Jr seriel: It takes pressure off the military and decreases the volatile bond market
- 01:51:04: Kora Stormblade: hue
- 01:51:13: ShawnCognitionCP: It would also bog world relations.
- 01:51:18: Atvelonis: No it really wouldn't. We would be short $20 trillion. Our current system of cycling debt works very well
- 01:51:22: ShawnCognitionCP: Including investment.
- 01:51:22: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: how does it take pressure off the military?
- 01:51:27: Sawpog46: At least we live in free countries where we can even discuss this topic
- 01:51:31: ShawnCognitionCP: Which will get you more money than paying off the debt would save.
- 01:51:38: Kora Stormblade: what does that even have to do with anything xd
- 01:51:44: Kora Stormblade: @saw
- 01:51:52: Sawpog46: Lol jus pointin out
- 01:52:00: ShawnCognitionCP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEzuoDC-P54
- 01:52:01: Sawpog46: Im jus thankful for freedom tbh
- 01:52:02: KINMUNE: Nails - Violence Is Forever
- 01:52:27: Kora Stormblade: I think spreading the money equally means that everyone would probably naturally go towards the easiest jobs, unless they were actually forced to be in specific jobs
- 01:52:32: Jr seriel: One of the political reasons we have a massive military is to back up the value of the world currency which is the US dollar. If they US had to default on its treasury bonds the only thing that we could do to stop the bankrupcy of the country is our military
- 01:52:37: Kora Stormblade: Then we wouldnt really be free to do much at that point lmao
- 01:52:54: ShawnCognitionCP: lolwat
- 01:53:06: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: ^
- 01:53:12: Kora Stormblade: at me or jr shawn
- 01:53:22: ShawnCognitionCP: "I passed Economics 101 but butchered Governmental Relations, AMA"
- 01:53:26: Sawpog46: How did u all get so knowledged on this
- 01:53:38: Sawpog46: Like do yall jus read up on politics all day or somethin
- 01:53:43: The Crusader of Truth: The holy spirit filled us with wisdom
- 01:53:48: Jr seriel: ^
- 01:54:01: ShawnCognitionCP: My whole sum of knowledge was gained by irrelevant porn ads
- 01:54:03: Kora Stormblade: I still cant tell if you were aiming that at meshawn xd
- 01:54:08: ShawnCognitionCP: No bitch
- 01:54:19: Sawpog46: Talos is the only Holy figure for me tho
- 01:54:19: Jr seriel: It was me I think
- 01:54:25: Kora Stormblade: k fuk u bitchboi
- 01:54:28: The Crusader of Truth: No porn add is irrelevant if your video doesn't load tho
- 01:54:31: The Crusader of Truth: *ad
- 01:54:32: Sawpog46: ^
- 01:54:35: Sawpog46: Hahahaa
- 01:55:39: Sawpog46: Wht would happen if ppl just stopped using money
- 01:55:44: Sawpog46: And everything was free
- 01:55:52: Sawpog46: U provide for ur family and thas it
- 01:55:57: Jr seriel: Everyone would lose their reitrement savings
- 01:55:58: Atvelonis: The US has a large military to protect its economic interests, sure, but not really in the way you described. If we went bankrupt, the military wouldn't be able to stop that.
- 01:56:02: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: society would collapse
- 01:56:05: The Crusader of Truth: Anarchy
- 01:56:05: ShawnCognitionCP: We revert back to a useless species of tribalism.
- 01:56:17: Sawpog46: Cool
- 01:56:21: Sawpog46: Like Chaosworld in MK
- 01:56:25: Jr seriel: Yes it could. If another country marched over here or threatened us we would just retaliate with our military
- 01:56:43: Atvelonis: Nothing to do with economics
- 01:56:43: ShawnCognitionCP: Doing so breaches international law.
- 01:57:02: ShawnCognitionCP: In doing so, you'd make yourself the global target.
- 01:57:20: Sawpog46: I dont think somebody whos coming to attack a country rlly cares bout international law tho
- 01:57:23: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: defending youself is not a breach of international law
- 01:57:30: Jr seriel: It is everything to do with economics hold on I wrote this out once before for something else let me find it
- 01:57:37: ShawnCognitionCP: Attacking another country is not a breach of international law if justified.
- 01:57:48: ShawnCognitionCP: is* My bad, typo.
- 01:57:54: ShawnCognitionCP: Wait, no, nevermind.
- 01:57:58: ShawnCognitionCP: Mindlapse
- 01:58:04: Kora Stormblade: shieet
- 01:58:57: ShawnCognitionCP: No nation will use hostilities to claim a superpower's debt, and if they did, full on resisting any payment and blowing it into a war could absolutely make you the global target.
- 01:59:15: Jr seriel: Which puts pressure on our military
- 01:59:18: Sawpog46: Wdym by Global? I dont think everybody in the world cares about two countries fighting
- 01:59:23: ShawnCognitionCP: Whoever attacked first is in breach.
- 01:59:24: Atvelonis: No they definitely do
- 01:59:27: ShawnCognitionCP: Saw
- 01:59:32: ShawnCognitionCP: We are the fucking hyperpower
- 01:59:33: Sawpog46: They should mind their own business
- 01:59:39: ShawnCognitionCP: That's uber-nationalism.
- 01:59:46: ShawnCognitionCP: We live in a globalist world.
- 01:59:46: Sawpog46: I hate the alliance system
- 01:59:56: ShawnCognitionCP: Nationalism doesn't progress the species.
- 01:59:57: Jr seriel: I can't find the statement I wrote about it a couple years ago and not really in the mood to retype it
- 02:00:08: Sawpog46: I love America tho lol
- 02:00:14: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: wars affect everyone, so everyone cares
- 02:00:20: Sawpog46: Tbh it depends
- 02:00:22: Sawpog46: Like
- 02:00:32: ShawnCognitionCP: America is the head of NATO.
- 02:00:35: Atvelonis: The world is too connected economically for any country to just ignore a war going on, even if it's on the other side of the globe.
- 02:00:38: Atvelonis: Especially the US.
- 02:00:39: ShawnCognitionCP: An attack on one is an attack on all members.
- 02:00:41: Sawpog46: I dont think we should get involved if Australia and Chile start fighting (Just a hypothetical)
- 02:00:44: Kora Stormblade: Im pretty sure they would care if they had a decent amount of nuclear weapons, which we do
- 02:00:49: ShawnCognitionCP: Allies nigga
- 02:00:52: Jr seriel: Basically, if and when the US dollar collapses and countries want to sell their treasury bonds and we dont have the reserve to back it up, the only they way they can get their money is to threaten or attack us. Which is why we need a large military
- 02:00:53: Kora Stormblade: We could literally destroy this world if we wanted to lmao
- 02:00:57: Sawpog46: Ik
- 02:00:58: ShawnCognitionCP: If you don't defend your relations, you lose validation
- 02:00:59: Sawpog46: We cant tho
- 02:01:01: ShawnCognitionCP: Then no one trusts you
- 02:01:12: ShawnCognitionCP: Then you get sanctioned for breaching treaties and pacts
- 02:01:15: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i'm pretty sure the world would try to intervene in australia and chile fighting
- 02:01:21: ShawnCognitionCP: Then you collapse because you were forcibly isolated
- 02:01:50: ShawnCognitionCP: You are refusing to acknowledge how much of a nation's success depends on exportation and importation.
- 02:02:10: Sawpog46: Honestly
- 02:02:12: ShawnCognitionCP: Who do you import from and export to if no one will deal with you because you won't defend your assets and betrayed everyone?
- 02:02:17: Sawpog46: Thats something I need to think about
- 02:02:18: Sawpog46: I guess
- 02:02:19: Jr seriel: Mostly exportation if you look at the current balance of trade
- 02:02:21: Sawpog46: If there is nukes
- 02:02:23: Sawpog46: We need to intervene
- 02:02:26: Sawpog46: Thats a global threat
- 02:02:29: Atvelonis: @Jr: The US dollar isn't going to collapse, and even if it did, no country is going to waste money trying to bully a country whose currency just collapsed to get more of that currency.
- 02:02:32: Sawpog46: But if its just skirmishes
- 02:02:36: Sawpog46: I cant see why we would fight
- 02:02:43: ShawnCognitionCP: Foreign relations pls
- 02:02:48: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: economic interdependence is the best peacekeeper there is i think
- 02:03:07: ShawnCognitionCP: $2.2 trillion in exports and $2.7 trillion in imports
- 02:03:11: ShawnCognitionCP: "Mostly exportation"
- 02:03:14: ShawnCognitionCP: Seriel pls
- 02:03:40: KINMUNE: Hello there, Blizzard1289!
- 02:03:42: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: hi
- 02:03:46: Jr seriel: SO you expect for contries to take huge losses on the bet that is the US. I just don't think they will take that laying down
- 02:03:55: Blizzard1289: Hello Princess Ashley.
- 02:03:57: Atvelonis: hi blizzard
- 02:04:03: ShawnCognitionCP: "on the bet"
- 02:04:04: ShawnCognitionCP: World
- 02:04:07: ShawnCognitionCP: Hyperpower
- 02:04:14: Sawpog46: Wht is Hyperpower
- 02:04:19: Jr seriel: Maybe I was wrong on the balance of trade, my education is rather old at this point
- 02:04:20: Sawpog46: Murica?
- 02:04:27: Blizzard1289: Hello Atvelonis.
- 02:04:59: ShawnCognitionCP: A superpower is a nation that is so good in one category they are the best in their hemisphere and essentially hold a sphere of dominance over that trait. A hyperpower is what happens when there's only one superpower in the world.
- 02:05:04: ShawnCognitionCP: America is the current hyperpower.
- 02:05:09: Sawpog46: Wht about Russia
- 02:05:11: Atvelonis: @Saw: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperpower
- 02:05:14: Sawpog46: Arent they a Superpower
- 02:05:16: ShawnCognitionCP: The Soviet Union was.
- 02:05:18: ShawnCognitionCP: And it collapsed.
- 02:05:27: Sawpog46: Wht about North Korea
- 02:05:30: Blizzard1289: USA! USA!
- 02:05:30: Sawpog46: And China
- 02:05:31: Atvelonis: Not even remotely
- 02:05:34: Blizzard1289: :)
- 02:05:36: ShawnCognitionCP: China is a potential 2050 superpower
- 02:05:36: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: russia still has all the weapons the USSR had though
- 02:05:38: ShawnCognitionCP: Due to trade
- 02:05:43: ShawnCognitionCP: All outdated, Ashley
- 02:05:46: Sawpog46: I love America sooo much
- 02:05:46: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: true
- 02:05:48: ShawnCognitionCP: Russia's military supplies are shit
- 02:05:49: Sawpog46: Its the best country ever
- 02:05:50: ShawnCognitionCP: 70s-80s
- 02:06:00: Sawpog46: What about Britain isnt that a superpower
- 02:06:04: ShawnCognitionCP: No.
- 02:06:05: Jr seriel: Oh wow that was a momentary lapse of reason with that exportation comment shawn my apologies after I read it I realized my error
- 02:06:06: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: lol
- 02:06:12: Atvelonis: Not for a century
- 02:06:16: ShawnCognitionCP: The European Union is a potential 2050 superpower.
- 02:06:21: Sawpog46: I hate that
- 02:06:24: Blizzard1289: Britain used to be a superpower, especially during the early 20th century. Haven't been for years though.
- 02:06:24: ShawnCognitionCP: Britain fucked itself there
- 02:06:25: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: britain lost its superpower status during the world wars
- 02:06:28: ShawnCognitionCP: #BRexit
- 02:06:28: Sawpog46: They should be individuals
- 02:06:33: Sawpog46: Sooo dumb
- 02:06:40: Sawpog46: Give some recognition to the countries of Europe
- 02:06:41: Atvelonis: They're still sovereign states
- 02:06:46: Sawpog46: They better be
- 02:06:47: Sawpog46: Always
- 02:06:57: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: nationalism will bring us nowhere
- 02:07:01: ShawnCognitionCP: ^
- 02:07:06: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: europe should unite
- 02:07:07: Atvelonis: Meh. I rather like the idea of a United States of Europe
- 02:07:17: Sawpog46: I dont wnna go to Italy my blood country n see "Europe" banners
- 02:07:17: Blizzard1289: United Provinces of Canada too.
- 02:07:22: Sawpog46: It better be Italy
- 02:07:27: ShawnCognitionCP: Hail Italia
- 02:07:29: Blizzard1289: ;)
- 02:07:36: Kora Stormblade: hail texas
- 02:07:40: Kora Stormblade: (y)
- 02:07:47: Sawpog46: Italy n Irland
- 02:07:52: Sawpog46: They r my blood home
- 02:07:57: Jr seriel: It brings us everywhere quite literally
- 02:08:00: Sawpog46: And wales
- 02:08:05: ShawnCognitionCP: North or South Ireland?
- 02:08:12: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: the EU will never formally abolish it's member states' sovereignty. it will still officially be countries
- 02:08:26: Jr seriel: nationalism is kind of responsible for us exploring space
- 02:08:33: ShawnCognitionCP: No.
- 02:08:44: Sawpog46: Shawn idk yet
- 02:08:44: ShawnCognitionCP: Scientific pursuit and show of capability is.
- 02:08:46: ShawnCognitionCP: Competition.
- 02:08:49: Sawpog46: I will ask my gram n let u know
- 02:08:57: Sawpog46: But Im very welsh
- 02:08:59: Atvelonis: @Crusader: The Daggerfall Chronicles seem to name quests
- 02:09:08: ShawnCognitionCP: Which then was pushed into a scientific arms race.
- 02:09:12: Atvelonis: pg 191 onwards
- 02:09:13: The Crusader of Truth: Awesome okay
- 02:09:22: ShawnCognitionCP: Because America had to prove it had a bigger dick
- 02:09:27: The Crusader of Truth: pg191 on the page itself or the PDF, they're different
- 02:09:36: ShawnCognitionCP: We also thought about nuking the moon to show Russia we could fucking do it.
- 02:09:39: Jr seriel: It was the space race, which encourages that we were trying to out pursue russia. Nasa commenly claims that it was capable of this feet due to nationalism
- 02:09:49: Atvelonis: https://i.gyazo.com/1b2a98c4bf14bc92b113e02aca5d037f.png
- 02:09:51: Sawpog46: Should we be scared of North Korea Russia n ISIS
- 02:09:53: Atvelonis: They even have a quest map
- 02:09:59: ShawnCognitionCP: No, haha.
- 02:10:03: Sawpog46: I am
- 02:10:04: Blizzard1289: Scared of North Korea?
- 02:10:07: Atvelonis: Shouldn't be
- 02:10:11: ShawnCognitionCP: North Korea has the biggest military on Earth if you count Paramilitary.
- 02:10:16: Sawpog46: I was rlly fucked up the other night over some news
- 02:10:17: Blizzard1289: No. They are literally nothing to the United States.
- 02:10:17: ShawnCognitionCP: But, they're extremely undercapable.
- 02:10:23: ShawnCognitionCP: ISIS is pretty much fallen.
- 02:10:26: Blizzard1289: North Korea should be afraid of America.
- 02:10:28: ShawnCognitionCP: Look at the map of their borders.
- 02:10:29: Sawpog46: They have nukes
- 02:10:34: The Crusader of Truth: @Atv I'll get to work on that soon, then
- 02:10:34: Sawpog46: N them fuckers is nuts too
- 02:10:38: Atvelonis: They know that attacking any NATO member/ally would mean the end of the Kim dynasty. They aren't going to do it
- 02:10:38: ShawnCognitionCP: Pretty much all out of Iraq, hardly left in Syria.
- 02:10:43: Blizzard1289: They're nukes are nothing compared to the United States.
- 02:10:46: ShawnCognitionCP: ISIS is dead.
- 02:10:46: Blizzard1289: *Their
- 02:11:03: ShawnCognitionCP: North Korea has /nuclear bombs/, but they aren't properly minimized.
- 02:11:10: ShawnCognitionCP: Nor are they long range enough to reach homeland.
- 02:11:27: ShawnCognitionCP: Plus, the more efficient anti-missile field in Europe is American owned.
- 02:11:30: Sawpog46: Hes gettin closer
- 02:11:32: Sawpog46: Its scary
- 02:11:39: Sawpog46: We can die
- 02:11:43: Sawpog46: Without a trace
- 02:11:45: ShawnCognitionCP: The only thing you should worry about is economic issues.
- 02:11:53: Sawpog46: Idc bout that
- 02:11:59: ShawnCognitionCP: In a war with North Korea we'd absolutely win, the issue is South Korea is a confirmed collateral.
- 02:12:07: Sawpog46: Collateral?
- 02:12:08: Atvelonis: o/
- 02:12:09: Jr seriel: Too bad the star wars program kind of stinks
- 02:12:10: ShawnCognitionCP: We would absolutely not be able to stop a strike on South Korea's capital.
- 02:12:15: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: south korea does have reason to fear them, bot no one else does
- 02:12:19: ShawnCognitionCP: South Korea is an economic power of the east.
- 02:12:25: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: except maybe japan
- 02:12:37: ShawnCognitionCP: It being crippled will result in a global chain of economic strife.
- 02:12:50: Jr seriel: No south korea is more important economically than Japan, shawn is right
- 02:13:06: ShawnCognitionCP: She means Japan has reason to fear a strike.
- 02:13:10: Jr seriel: Oh
- 02:13:15: Sawpog46: Y dont we jus get in there n kick some Korean ass
- 02:13:19: Sawpog46: WOOO
- 02:13:29: ShawnCognitionCP: f o r e i g n r e l a t i o n s
- 02:13:34: Sawpog46: No fuck that
- 02:13:36: Jr seriel: Because that is expensive, and collateral heavy and perhaps unecessary
- 02:13:41: ShawnCognitionCP: ^
- 02:13:48: Sawpog46: We need another hiroshima
- 02:13:53: Jr seriel: omg no
- 02:13:55: Sawpog46: Yesss
- 02:14:00: Jr seriel: no
- 02:14:01: ShawnCognitionCP: Using a nuclear bomb in open warfare will result in a nuclear arms race.
- 02:14:09: ShawnCognitionCP: It's why we absolutely can not use one in the middle east.
- 02:14:16: Sawpog46: I luv our country for showin them fuckers up during WW2 with those bombs
- 02:14:17: Sawpog46: Like
- 02:14:17: Jr seriel: Plus it is like the worst thing we can do to the planet and human kind
- 02:14:19: Sawpog46: That took balls
- 02:14:21: ShawnCognitionCP: You'll be giving more nations nuclear weapons.
- 02:14:31: Sawpog46: No everyone will join us against North Korea
- 02:14:36: Jr seriel: No they won't
- 02:14:38: Sawpog46: Then after we kill them off we can get rid of the nukes
- 02:14:43: Jr seriel: the world will be majorly upset with us for using it
- 02:14:49: Sawpog46: The world is pussies
- 02:14:57: ShawnCognitionCP: >implying a nation with bombs won't fire them in the time you fire your own
- 02:14:59: Jr seriel: Plus all the innocent chaps who will get needlessly killed by it
- 02:15:02: ShawnCognitionCP: >M.A.D. is a myth
- 02:15:18: Sawpog46: Those innocent chaps hate America and root for their god to nuke us
- 02:15:22: Sawpog46: I hav no sympathy for the fallen
- 02:15:23: Jr seriel: Not all of them
- 02:15:32: Sawpog46: Tuff luck most of them are
- 02:15:34: Jr seriel: By that reasoning all Muslims are terrorists
- 02:15:39: Jr seriel: which is not true
- 02:15:40: ShawnCognitionCP: Debatable
- 02:15:42: Sawpog46: Thas nothin like it
- 02:15:50: ShawnCognitionCP: They all agree with and follow a faith built strictly on terrorism.
- 02:15:53: Blizzard1289: Not gonna lie, wasn't expecting an Elder Scrolls chatroom to this political. LoL
- 02:15:55: Sawpog46: Im not generalizing anything
- 02:15:59: Sawpog46: Im jus saying
- 02:16:03: ShawnCognitionCP: Islam's key trait itself is conquest.
- 02:16:10: Sawpog46: May have to kill a few normal peeps to save the world from a terrorist country
- 02:16:15: Sawpog46: Its a challenge that we're faced with
- 02:16:19: Sawpog46: And we've been faced with it before
- 02:16:25: Sawpog46: Its a risk we should take
- 02:16:26: ShawnCognitionCP: The equivalent to Mohammad's "commandments" via Allah are outright support of terrorism.
- 02:16:38: ShawnCognitionCP: Or, Allah's commandments via Mohammad, moreso.
- 02:16:40: Sawpog46: Nah Shawn Muslims arent bad dude
- 02:16:42: Sawpog46: Dont go there
- 02:16:50: ShawnCognitionCP: Don't speak about what you don't understand.
- 02:16:53: Sawpog46: Ik theres a lot of terrorists but think about Christians
- 02:16:53: Kora Stormblade: hue here we go
- 02:16:54: ShawnCognitionCP: Ever read the Qu'ran?
- 02:16:58: Jr seriel: Have you?
- 02:17:01: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: not all muslims are bad, but islam is
- 02:17:03: ShawnCognitionCP: Yes.
- 02:17:10: Jr seriel: How about the Bible?
- 02:17:13: ShawnCognitionCP: Christian terrorism is a very, very minor category.
- 02:17:14: ShawnCognitionCP: Yep.
- 02:17:15: Kora Stormblade: he has that too lmap
- 02:17:18: Kora Stormblade: *lmao
- 02:17:19: Sawpog46: Wht about how the Christians slaughtered innocent Muslims during the crusade
- 02:17:23: Sawpog46: All religions are bad
- 02:17:23: Sawpog46: ALL
- 02:17:25: ShawnCognitionCP: >Innocent
- 02:17:26: Sawpog46: Not just Muslims
- 02:17:26: ShawnCognitionCP: HAHAHA
- 02:17:36: Sawpog46: Ur warped dude
- 02:17:43: ShawnCognitionCP: The first Crusade was a justified act of counter-assault due to Muslim assaults in the beginning
- 02:17:53: Jr seriel: Are you a theological studies expert or something similar?
- 02:17:56: ShawnCognitionCP: The rest of the Crusades were moreso Christians killing Christians and indirectly spreading Islam's power
- 02:18:00: ShawnCognitionCP: 1014
- 02:18:05: ShawnCognitionCP: Siege of Byzantine
- 02:18:13: ShawnCognitionCP: Christians attacked the Christian capital of the world at the time
- 02:18:25: ShawnCognitionCP: Eventually led to the collapse of the last of the Byzantine Empire
- 02:18:31: ShawnCognitionCP: Gave Islam a larger sphere of influence
- 02:18:42: Sawpog46: In November 1095, at the Council of Clermont in southern France, the Pope called on Western Christians to take up arms to aid the Byzantines and recapture the Holy Land from Muslim control. This marked the beginning of the Crusades.
- 02:18:47: The Crusader of Truth: >/Crus/ade
- 02:19:06: Kora Stormblade: xd
- 02:19:11: Jr seriel: Crus is this your are of expertise
- 02:19:11: Kora Stormblade: rip you
- 02:19:16: ShawnCognitionCP: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Constantinople
- 02:19:22: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: if your name is crusader, you can expect to be associated with crusades
- 02:19:26: Kora Stormblade: no he's talking about it pinging him
- 02:19:31: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: ah yes
- 02:19:38: Atvelonis: That's like me whenever Ika is only
- 02:19:44: Kora Stormblade: just turn off pings now xd
- 02:19:48: Atvelonis: Latvia Latvia Latvia
- 02:19:52: Atvelonis: *on
- 02:19:54: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: lol
- 02:19:58: ShawnCognitionCP: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sack_of_Constantinople_(1204)
- 02:20:03: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i haven't seen magikarp in a while
- 02:20:11: ShawnCognitionCP: 1014 was a typo
- 02:20:13: ShawnCognitionCP: 1204
- 02:20:17: The Crusader of Truth: This entire subject is triggering me
- 02:20:30: The Crusader of Truth: Magikarps and crusades alike
- 02:20:33: Kora Stormblade: xd
- 02:20:38: ShawnCognitionCP: "Christians against Muslims in a war for Jewish land and killing Christians for being Christians as part of their war against the Muslims which directly gave the Muslims mass power in the east instead of the Christians Why every Crusade after the first was retarded"
- 02:20:59: Sawpog46: Why does it say 1453
- 02:21:03: Blizzard1289: Where is that quote from?
- 02:21:11: ShawnCognitionCP: Myself, quoting my own previous joke.
- 02:21:16: Blizzard1289: XD
- 02:21:20: ShawnCognitionCP: Because it takes a long time for an empire to collapse, Saw?
- 02:21:22: Blizzard1289: So, you support Israel then?
- 02:21:23: Atvelonis: oh that's a classic shawn move right there
- 02:21:31: Kora Stormblade: xd
- 02:21:32: ShawnCognitionCP: The Byzantium empire came from the split of Rome.
- 02:21:36: ShawnCognitionCP: Absolutely fucking not.
- 02:21:44: ShawnCognitionCP: Israel is the world's largest terror state.
- 02:22:05: Sawpog46: I dont get it then, how does this counter wht I said
- 02:22:09: Kora Stormblade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yusGUGTVAyw&t=223s&ab_channel=PinkFloyd-Topic
- 02:22:11: KINMUNE: Atom Heart Mother Suite
- 02:22:12: ShawnCognitionCP: I hate how any time you saw you hate Islam, people instantly go "the Christians did the same thing at an equal rate five centuries beforehand!"
- 02:22:15: Jr seriel: They were mentally ill?
- 02:22:21: Sawpog46: if it was in the 1400s when the thing I quoted was 1013
- 02:22:24: ShawnCognitionCP: As if hate for Islam means support for Christianity
- 02:22:29: Sawpog46: *1095
- 02:22:46: Sawpog46: Shawn I made it clear I hate all religions
- 02:22:50: Sawpog46: I am just saying no religion is good
- 02:22:51: ShawnCognitionCP: You stated the Crusades were assaults on 'innocent Muslims"
- 02:23:04: Sawpog46: I am p sure many civilians were slain
- 02:23:06: ShawnCognitionCP: Even though the first started with Muslim slaughter of innocents.
- 02:23:09: ShawnCognitionCP: Yes, because that's war.
- 02:23:12: Sawpog46: True
- 02:23:13: Sawpog46: Still
- 02:23:16: ShawnCognitionCP: Civilians will always be collateral to wars.
- 02:23:17: Sawpog46: All religions are bad
- 02:23:24: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: the women the crusaders raped and the children they slaughtered were innocent
- 02:23:37: The Crusader of Truth: nononononono no more crusades plz
- 02:23:37: ShawnCognitionCP: Yes, again, collateral of warfare will always be civilians.
- 02:23:38: Sawpog46: ^
- 02:23:41: Sawpog46: @Ashley
- 02:23:54: ShawnCognitionCP: You bringing up historical rape cases isn't going to guilt me into changing that statement.
- 02:24:15: ShawnCognitionCP: I'm not going to change my words out of sympathy for a victim one thousand years before me.
- 02:24:32: Jr seriel: So like the halocaust doesn't count too?
- 02:24:46: ShawnCognitionCP: Hitler despised Christians and saw them as easily manipulated tools.
- 02:24:46: Jr seriel: *holocaust
- 02:24:47: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: the holocaust wasn't collateral damage
- 02:24:59: ShawnCognitionCP: Holocaust was an act of uber-nationalism.
- 02:25:31: ShawnCognitionCP: "Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure." - Adolf Hitler
- 02:25:33: Sawpog46: Its not okay to be bigoted against a religion just because a select group causes havoc, there are white supremacy groups but nobody should hate whites for those groups, you should meet muslims and get to know their religion before you generalize
- 02:25:40: ShawnCognitionCP: "a small group"
- 02:25:47: Sawpog46: SELECT
- 02:25:51: ShawnCognitionCP: Statistics are your friend, not pussifying the instances
- 02:25:56: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: systematically harassing and eventually murdering a particular group is not the natural result of war
- 02:25:58: Sawpog46: Dude
- 02:26:00: Sawpog46: I said select
- 02:26:09: ShawnCognitionCP: Ashley, it absolutely was, back then.
- 02:26:15: ShawnCognitionCP: Wars were fought in essential genocides.
- 02:26:21: ShawnCognitionCP: You won when the enemy was out killed and out-raped.
- 02:26:32: Sawpog46: Actually
- 02:26:37: Jr seriel: Not every war
- 02:26:38: ShawnCognitionCP: You fucked them to ensure their bloodline crossed with your own, erasing their genetic line from the future.
- 02:26:40: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: aye, but the jews weren't the country germany was fighting
- 02:26:51: ShawnCognitionCP: Look at the assault on the Gauls.
- 02:27:05: Sawpog46: Look
- 02:27:09: Kora Stormblade: lookie
- 02:27:13: Sawpog46: Just because people did it in the past dont mean its okay
- 02:27:18: Sawpog46: Its not okay to rape and such
- 02:27:19: Sawpog46: Ever
- 02:27:25: ShawnCognitionCP: I'm not justifying rape.
- 02:27:25: Kora Stormblade: Im pretty sure we all know that lmao
- 02:27:27: Sawpog46: Rape in warfare is not right
- 02:27:33: ShawnCognitionCP: I'm not saying it is.
- 02:27:42: ShawnCognitionCP: I'm saying /their/ idea of why they did it.
- 02:27:44: Jr seriel: Gross shawn wants to erradicate peoples lineage by raping them?
- 02:27:48: Jr seriel: lol jk
- 02:27:55: ShawnCognitionCP: 83% of Egyptians approve of attacks on American troops. 26% of Indonesians approve of attacks on American troops. 26% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on American troops. 68% of Moroccans approve of attacks on American troops. 90% of Palestinians approve of attacks on American troops. 72% of Jordanians approve of attacks on American troops. 52% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans
- 02:27:55: The Crusader of Truth: someone said rape?
- 02:27:57: The Crusader of Truth: jk
- 02:28:01: ShawnCognitionCP: "NOT ALL MUSLIMS"
- 02:28:04: Qahnaarin1997: Hawt
- 02:28:22: ShawnCognitionCP: 30% of Palestinians support attacks on American civilians working in Muslim countries. 24% support the murder of Americans on U.S. soil.
- 02:28:25: Jr seriel: I wonder how many americans approve of attacks on american troops
- 02:28:25: Sawpog46: Source?
- 02:28:34: ShawnCognitionCP: https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/articles/opinion-polls.aspx
- 02:28:38: ShawnCognitionCP: Here's a massive list of sources.
- 02:29:04: Jr seriel: Those polls could have been fabricated
- 02:29:07: The Crusader of Truth: Wouldn't that source be bias?
- 02:29:18: ShawnCognitionCP: The site gives individual sources to each claim.
- 02:29:22: ShawnCognitionCP: Not on its own.
- 02:29:32: ShawnCognitionCP: None of the research is done, nor edited, by the site.
- 02:29:37: ShawnCognitionCP: It's also a severely unbias site.
- 02:29:46: ShawnCognitionCP: It tracks Muslim terrorist attacks and counts the dead.
- 02:29:55: The Crusader of Truth: The opinion poll you gave gives a same-site pdf, which doesn't exist?
- 02:29:56: Jr seriel: Someone calling something unbias always seems like a bias to me.
- 02:30:00: ShawnCognitionCP: All of its arguments are built upon the Qu'ran itself.
- 02:30:07: ShawnCognitionCP: Got taken down then, scroll down for more.
- 02:30:09: Sawpog46: You show me a statistic that says 80% of muslims are bad, I'll tell you that I stand for that 20%
- 02:30:09: Jr seriel: Always feel that way when people tell me NPR is not biased
- 02:30:13: ShawnCognitionCP: Not like it isn't 50+
- 02:30:22: The Crusader of Truth: I mean I'm not disagreeing with you, I just want to see the sources and get more info for my own means
- 02:30:24: Atvelonis: Not that I'm arguing against you, Shawn, but I'm not sure I'd say it's unbiased. It very clearly has a particular point of view.
- 02:30:30: The Crusader of Truth: ^
- 02:30:31: ShawnCognitionCP: Someone calling something bias without looking at it is also bias
- 02:30:52: ShawnCognitionCP: It has that point of view based upon a justified outlook on the Qu'ran and gives all of its points fully described justification.
- 02:31:02: ShawnCognitionCP: I see why you would see the title and think biasness.
- 02:31:03: ShawnCognitionCP: 100%
- 02:31:09: Sawpog46: Relax
- 02:31:19: Kora Stormblade: I don't think he's upset saw
- 02:31:24: Sawpog46: Ok
- 02:31:25: Sawpog46: Well
- 02:31:28: Sawpog46: I used to think the same thing
- 02:31:30: Sawpog46: Not even lying
- 02:31:33: Sawpog46: About a year ago
- 02:31:34: ShawnCognitionCP: I've read a good sum of the site's material and have factchecked it for the same reason (factchecking is an always, but you know what I mean)
- 02:31:36: Kora Stormblade: But yea I see where atv is coming from
- 02:31:45: Sawpog46: I thought blacks, muslims and hispanics were bad people
- 02:32:06: ShawnCognitionCP: My point of view is crafted strictly by evidence and statistics.
- 02:32:07: Sawpog46: IG it was Logic that brought me off that road and down a good road
- 02:32:07: The Crusader of Truth: I'm going to head out and come back later, I need to focus on what I'm doing. o/
- 02:32:15: Blizzard1289: See you, man.
- 02:32:22: Jr seriel: Good Luck crus. Au revoir
- 02:32:26: ShawnCognitionCP: It was logic that made you ignore the factual issue with Islam?
- 02:32:34: The Crusader of Truth: Btw shawn can you send me any more sites on Discord if you have any? I want to read up on it eventually
- 02:32:52: ShawnCognitionCP: I'll send some over at some point, yeah
- 02:32:59: The Crusader of Truth: Awesome thankye
- 02:33:00: The Crusader of Truth: bbl
- 02:33:02: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: being factually correct doesn't automatically make something unbiased. a documentary on WW2 focusing exclusively on war crimes committed by the allies doesn't have to be inaccurate, but it'd definitely be biased
- 02:33:06: Sawpog46: It doesnt matter what statistics you find, people can always change and as long as it isn't like 90 or 100% of people, you shouldn't hate a race or religion for thinking something, maybe that 80% does sympathize with a bombing and that is horrible but maybe it isn't too late for them to change
- 02:33:20: Sawpog46: We need to have understanding for everybody and know how they feel before we judge
- 02:33:27: ShawnCognitionCP: "But it's not too late for them to change"
- 02:33:38: ShawnCognitionCP: Rape, pedophilia, genocide supporting terrorsits?
- 02:33:43: ShawnCognitionCP: terrorists*
- 02:33:45: ShawnCognitionCP: My bad, typo.
- 02:33:56: Sawpog46: Theres therapy and such for the first two
- 02:33:59: ShawnCognitionCP: I hate the amount people like you value sympathy.
- 02:34:01: ShawnCognitionCP: HAHAHA
- 02:34:22: Sawpog46: Ur so blind, u have a horrible sense of negativity put into ur brain
- 02:34:26: Sawpog46: I feel bad for u I rlly do
- 02:34:31: ShawnCognitionCP: Sympathy has a place, and that place is not on par with evidence.
- 02:34:43: Sawpog46: Ill respect ur opinion but I strongly disagree
- 02:34:45: ShawnCognitionCP: The only thing that matters is statistics, not "but I want to be nice".
- 02:34:55: Jr seriel: satistics lie
- 02:34:59: Sawpog46: Its not a matter of being nice its a matter of a greater good
- 02:34:59: ShawnCognitionCP: They don't.
- 02:35:02: ShawnCognitionCP: hence being a statistic.
- 02:35:04: Sawpog46: Not everything needs to be scientific
- 02:35:08: ShawnCognitionCP: Yes, it does.
- 02:35:15: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: statistics don't lie, but they can tell half-truths
- 02:35:18: Sawpog46: Does what I said before about bombing innocents sound like being nice? No, it would be for a greater good
- 02:35:32: Sawpog46: Its all about the long run and discrimination is a fucked up long run
- 02:35:34: ShawnCognitionCP: If all evidence points to A, and you say B, you're ignoring the truth for your wishes.
- 02:35:39: ShawnCognitionCP: Wishes do not matter.
- 02:35:49: ShawnCognitionCP: The world doesn't care about how you think it should be.
- 02:36:02: ShawnCognitionCP: You were quite scared of ISIS earlier, ISIS is the exact definition of Islam.
- 02:36:07: Sawpog46: No its not
- 02:36:08: ShawnCognitionCP: They followed the Qu'ran verbatim.
- 02:36:25: ShawnCognitionCP: Yes, it is. They are among the religion's most stout and devout followers.
- 02:36:38: ShawnCognitionCP: That is how Islam is when it has political power or is pursuing a goal.
- 02:36:40: Jr seriel: I never trust people who believe blindly in statistics, makes them seem inhuman, or irrelavantly disconncected from the reality and weight of decisions and the micro realities that folks live with
- 02:36:52: Sawpog46: Imagine if you met a girl you really really like, beautiful girl with same interests as you, you hang out with her and you find out shes muslim, what would you do Shawn?
- 02:37:02: ShawnCognitionCP: Get a different girl?
- 02:37:05: Sawpog46: Wow
- 02:37:18: Sawpog46: How old r u?
- 02:37:20: ShawnCognitionCP: I don't know why my sexual preference is of interest to you.
- 02:37:21: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: depends on how devout she is for me
- 02:37:22: Kora Stormblade: You guys are really handling this really badly lmao
- 02:37:25: BronzeAir: my deskmate is a muslim....
- 02:37:38: ShawnCognitionCP: I'm simply not attracted to specific sorts of people.
- 02:37:48: ShawnCognitionCP: Has nothing to do with being "discriminatory".
- 02:37:53: Sawpog46: Shawn IDK where that came from lol, it was a hypothetical to see if you'd judge a person based on their religion
- 02:37:59: Sawpog46: U rlly saw right through that one dint you
- 02:38:00: Jr seriel: Yeah saw, don't know if that was the best question to ask
- 02:38:06: ShawnCognitionCP: Telling me it's wrong not to stick my dick in someone for any reason whatsoever is quite awful.
- 02:38:12: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: sexual attraction is always discriminatory, but thats not bad
- 02:38:14: ShawnCognitionCP: You judged me on the pretense I wouldn't date a Muslim girl.
- 02:38:15: Blizzard1289: Shawn, I think the analogy was that you would get along with the person. Only finding out later she's Muslim.
- 02:38:20: Sawpog46: ^
- 02:38:23: Blizzard1289: You'd still get a different girl irregardless of the fact?
- 02:38:28: Jr seriel: jeez harsh
- 02:38:29: ShawnCognitionCP: It's my full right to not pair with someone on the sole ground of their faith.
- 02:38:46: Blizzard1289: I'm not saying it's right or wrong, I'm just trying to better understand your answer.
- 02:38:49: Jr seriel: sure is, an american!
- 02:38:55: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: anyone can refuse to fuck anyone for any reason
- 02:38:57: ShawnCognitionCP: I can pair with or refuse to pair with anyone on any ground, and I don't need to justify that to anyone.
- 02:39:02: ShawnCognitionCP: Exactly, Ashley.
- 02:39:16: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: forcing someone to fuck against their will is rape
- 02:39:18: Sawpog46: Fucking was nvr part of the hypothetical or anything, u ppl r shallow if u think dating is all about fucking lol
- 02:39:20: Nekyn Alb: Y'all are destined to sex me
- 02:39:20: Jr seriel: agreed
- 02:39:31: Jr seriel: wait disagreed
- 02:39:34: Jr seriel: nekyn
- 02:39:41: ShawnCognitionCP: People date because of a humanized prospect of selective breeding, which all primates are.
- 02:39:45: Sawpog46: It was an example regardless, Blizzard was the only one who saw wht I meant
- 02:39:46: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: "pairing up" sounds like getting into a relationship
- 02:39:54: Nekyn Alb: Too late, now I'll get you
- 02:40:00: Kora Stormblade: (kappa)
- 02:40:09: Blizzard1289: (Morrowind)
- 02:40:10: Jr seriel: omg shawn, reminds me of a talk I had with a philosophy major I had in college
- 02:40:20: ShawnCognitionCP: >philosophy major
- 02:40:21: ShawnCognitionCP: ew
- 02:40:23: Jr seriel: But what about love guys
- 02:40:25: Sawpog46: We should change to a diff topic cuz this isn't going anywhere
- 02:40:28: Blizzard1289: Shawn wants to be a Detective I think.
- 02:40:33: ShawnCognitionCP: Love is serotonin + dopamine + oxytocin.
- 02:40:35: Nekyn Alb: y0, philosophy is cool
- 02:40:43: ShawnCognitionCP: Modern philosophy isn't.
- 02:40:55: Nekyn Alb: What falls under modern?
- 02:40:59: Blizzard1289: That seems like a good profession for someone like you, analytical mind, determined objectivism, etc.
- 02:41:16: ShawnCognitionCP: """deep thinkers"""
- 02:41:27: Nekyn Alb: I like preteens
- 02:41:30: ShawnCognitionCP: The idea that anyone that overthinks is a philosopher.
- 02:41:31: Jr seriel: Love is the feeling of butterflies and the deep connection I feel for someone
- 02:41:31: ShawnCognitionCP: o i c
- 02:41:41: ShawnCognitionCP: Love is serotonin + dopamine + oxytocin.
- 02:41:44: Sawpog46: Thas everybody bro @Jr
- 02:42:07: ShawnCognitionCP: Serotonin is responsible for happiness, dopamine is the body's reward/pleasure chemical, oxytocin is responsible for bonds between individuals.
- 02:42:18: ShawnCognitionCP: In a nutshell.
- 02:42:19: Jr seriel: Love is everything
- 02:42:21: Nekyn Alb: I once had a butterfly on my skin while I digested some cow meat. Pure love
- 02:42:30: Jr seriel: That is love!
- 02:42:30: ShawnCognitionCP: You're likely overstating "love" to mean empathy.
- 02:42:33: Sawpog46: Love is the greatest feeling
- 02:42:42: Nekyn Alb: Winning is great
- 02:42:44: ShawnCognitionCP: Yeah, you definitely mean empathy.
- 02:42:47: Sawpog46: Being in love feels great but gettin ur heart broke feels like shit
- 02:42:49: Jr seriel: Didn't you read MK's writings, love is how to save mundus
- 02:42:51: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: heroin is the greatest feeling
- 02:42:54: Nekyn Alb: lmao
- 02:42:56: Blizzard1289: Shawn I think they're talking about love from a cultural standpoint more than a scientific one
- 02:43:02: ShawnCognitionCP: E m p a t h y
- 02:43:16: Nekyn Alb: MK uses Crowley's Love and that's not your concept of love
- 02:43:23: Jr seriel: Still says love
- 02:43:32: Jr seriel: Alestair crowley was a weird dude
- 02:43:32: Nekyn Alb: Did you never talk with Vivec? Biggest cunt and dick there is
- 02:43:37: Sawpog46: I thought he was joking @Blizz
- 02:43:44: ShawnCognitionCP: Vivec is the Chad of the TES universe
- 02:43:45: Sawpog46: He rlly thinks we meant Scientifically? Im dead
- 02:43:57: Nekyn Alb: tbh, Vivec can steal my girl any day
- 02:44:04: Jr seriel: He was pretty hot
- 02:44:05: ShawnCognitionCP: Read what I posted before you judge it on someone's response.
- 02:44:23: ShawnCognitionCP: There's a definition to love, and there's empathy. They are used interchangably a lot, but they really aren't.
- 02:44:28: ShawnCognitionCP: That's all I said.
- 02:44:37: Sawpog46: Im referrin to you wit the chemical thing
- 02:44:44: Jr seriel: Do you think vivec turned full dunmer after he lost his immortality?
- 02:44:50: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: no
- 02:44:53: ShawnCognitionCP: I posted exactly what love is to show that what you're discussing is empathy.
- 02:44:54: Sawpog46: Also how is love anything like empathy, not everybody has that Nightinggale effect
- 02:44:57: ShawnCognitionCP: Not love.
- 02:44:59: ShawnCognitionCP: Seriel
- 02:45:02: ShawnCognitionCP: He never lost it.
- 02:45:03: Blizzard1289: Shawn, was that towards me?
- 02:45:08: ShawnCognitionCP: He lost his Godhood, but he still had CHIM.
- 02:45:16: Nekyn Alb: Vivec can't lose immortality, he's engraved into the Dream
- 02:45:17: ShawnCognitionCP: Thus, still remained a god anyways.
- 02:45:21: ShawnCognitionCP: Nekyn is correct.
- 02:45:32: ShawnCognitionCP: The godhood the tools gave him was revoked, but CHIM kept him a god anyways.
- 02:45:45: ShawnCognitionCP: Vivec is still a god in the 5th era, Skyrim is the start of the 4th
- 02:45:48: Nekyn Alb: so at least some kind of cosmic awareness
- 02:45:50: Jr seriel: thanks for the info. Where does it say that?
- 02:45:51: Sawpog46: Because Ive never played Morrowind I dont know shit bout how Vivec n his pantheon play into the Empire or anything
- 02:45:52: ShawnCognitionCP: Read C0DA
- 02:46:07: ShawnCognitionCP: https://www.c0da.es/
- 02:46:09: Blizzard1289: Vivec isn't really connected to the Imperial Pantheon.
- 02:46:13: Blizzard1289: Like, at all.
- 02:46:16: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: why couldn't he stop the ministry of truth crashing into vivec city though?
- 02:46:18: Nekyn Alb: I played about 20 hours of Morrowind and did 2 MQs, no excuse
- 02:46:22: ShawnCognitionCP: He did, Ashley
- 02:46:25: Nekyn Alb: He didn't want to
- 02:46:26: Jr seriel: Yeah coda upsets me so
- 02:46:30: Sawpog46: Blizzard
- 02:46:32: Sawpog46: DM me
- 02:46:33: ShawnCognitionCP: The ministry of truth only crashed into his city when he ""Vanished""
- 02:46:36: Blizzard1289: DM?
- 02:46:41: Sawpog46: Well on here its called PM
- 02:46:44: ShawnCognitionCP: He used the ministry as a threat.
- 02:46:47: ShawnCognitionCP: "Love me or you all die"
- 02:46:53: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: ah
- 02:46:58: Atvelonis: >Yeah coda upsets me so Shawn is now triggered beyond your wildest dreams
- 02:47:00: Nekyn Alb: "Love is under my will only."
- 02:47:05: Atvelonis: I need to go watch Stranger Things rn, bye all
- 02:47:08: Atvelonis: have a nice evening
- 02:47:12: Kora Stormblade: o.
- 02:47:13: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: bye
- 02:47:15: Nekyn Alb: cya o/
- 02:47:15: Atvelonis: or morning for you folks across the pond
- 02:47:17: ShawnCognitionCP: Vivec is Chad as fuck
- 02:47:17: Jr seriel: Au revoir!
- 02:47:20: Blizzard1289: Bye Atv.
- 02:47:21: Kora Stormblade: xd
- 02:47:23: Nekyn Alb: 4 AM
- 02:47:26: ShawnCognitionCP: "Love me or I'll crash a fucking meteor into you"
- 02:47:35: ShawnCognitionCP: Then leaves and crashes the meteor into them anyways
- 02:47:47: Nekyn Alb: brb, gonna check on what the Chad of my school is up to
- 02:48:08: Jr seriel: So since vivec is putsing around in Aetherius, does he still have a physical body
- 02:48:08: Nekyn Alb: They didn't love him anymore after it, and time is subjective (kappa)
- 02:48:22: Nekyn Alb: when he wants to
- 02:48:37: Jr seriel: I don't understand this Chad reference, is this a pop culture reference?
- 02:48:57: ShawnCognitionCP: Memedom.
- 02:49:01: ShawnCognitionCP: Virgin vs Chad meme
- 02:49:11: Nekyn Alb: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Chad
- 02:49:12: Jr seriel: Never seen or heard of it
- 02:49:31: Jr seriel: ^ ahh got
- 02:49:33: Jr seriel: it
- 02:49:35: Blizzard1289: I went to school with someone named Chad. :(
- 02:49:39: Jr seriel: Me too
- 02:49:46: Nekyn Alb: Bet he was a Chad
- 02:49:55: Blizzard1289: He wasn't, we hardly spoke. XD
- 02:50:09: Nekyn Alb: That's because you are the virgin
- 02:50:13: Jr seriel: the bloke played baseball and was the coaches son so you know...
- 02:50:30: The Crusader of Truth: Damnit Atv ran away
- 02:50:31: Blizzard1289: Well... you got me there Nekyn. XD
- 02:50:40: Kora Stormblade: o.
- 02:50:42: Nekyn Alb: The Virgin-Chad dichotomy is deeply engraved into our cosmic metaphysics
- 02:50:56: Jr seriel: Yeah shawn scared him off with his radicalizing the chat
- 02:51:10: Nekyn Alb: what a Chad
- 02:51:18: Jr seriel: lol
- 02:51:25: Nekyn Alb: He always writes like that tho
- 02:51:42: Blizzard1289: What does CP stand for?
- 02:51:54: Nekyn Alb: CuckPuck
- 02:51:55: Jr seriel: Yeah I didn't want to fuel the fire so I backed off
- 02:51:57: Kora Stormblade: xd
- 02:52:08: The Crusader of Truth: CoutryJew Powered
- 02:52:12: ShawnCognitionCP: ChadPowered
- 02:52:17: Blizzard1289: ShawnCognitionCuckPuck
- 02:52:23: ShawnCognitionCP: CheesePizza
- 02:52:23: Blizzard1289: XD
- 02:52:29: Nekyn Alb: :D
- 02:52:29: Jr seriel: Ooo cheese pizza
- 02:52:35: ShawnCognitionCP: CholeraPlease
- 02:52:41: Jr seriel: darn it is too late to order some
- 02:52:48: Nekyn Alb: Shawn, don't be such a Chad and date some muslims
- 02:52:52: The Crusader of Truth: Not if it's Krusty Krab Pizza
- 02:52:59: ShawnCognitionCP: stop kinkshaming me reeeeeeeeee
- 02:53:01: Kora Stormblade: CrustyPusty
- 02:53:08: Jr seriel: lollolololo
- 02:53:09: The Crusader of Truth: /Crus/ty
- 02:53:13: Jr seriel: Nekyn lololo
- 02:53:14: The Crusader of Truth: why did I even come back
- 02:53:17: Kora Stormblade: CrootyPooty
- 02:53:30: Nekyn Alb: You wanted to be cuckpucked by ChadCognition
- 02:53:40: ShawnCognitionCP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRu0bMHCa-g
- 02:53:41: KINMUNE: Ad Hominem - Impaled Muhammad
- 02:53:42: Sawpog46: Can someone tell me more bout Vivec in PM
- 02:53:45: Sawpog46: Like teach me bout him
- 02:53:45: ShawnCognitionCP: >third date with a Muslim girl
- 02:53:53: Nekyn Alb: We can tell you in open chat
- 02:53:56: Jr seriel: Sawpog me too!
- 02:53:58: Sawpog46: I dont wnna hog the chat
- 02:54:03: ShawnCognitionCP: Vivec is Chad
- 02:54:08: The Crusader of Truth: She shows you her bomb collection on the 3rd date
- 02:54:09: Nekyn Alb: This is a TES chat, lol
- 02:54:12: Jr seriel: THere are no stupid questions sawpog
- 02:54:18: ShawnCognitionCP: He achieved CHIM and spends the entirety of his story bitchslapping everyone
- 02:54:20: Sawpog46: According to this one mod there is
- 02:54:26: Nekyn Alb: with his cockvagina
- 02:54:33: ShawnCognitionCP: He gave Tiber Septim the Numidium, Tiber genocided with it, he cockslapped Tiber
- 02:54:35: Sawpog46: Since I told him I dint know wht he was talkin about when he was talkin n his ass set off on me
- 02:54:41: Sawpog46: What is CHIM
- 02:54:44: ShawnCognitionCP: He canonly bit Molag Bal's cock and learned the secret of life
- 02:54:48: Kora Stormblade: hot
- 02:54:51: ShawnCognitionCP: and then killed 13 of their kids with his dick
- 02:55:00: Kora Stormblade: even hotter (kappa)
- 02:55:00: ShawnCognitionCP: MK was on some shit when he wrote Vivec's story
- 02:55:02: Jr seriel: did he really "cockslap" tiber? false facts?
- 02:55:02: Nekyn Alb: Cyrus cockslapped Tiber to the moons, wanna see how Vv beats that
- 02:55:13: Kora Stormblade: do you know the saying jr
- 02:55:16: Sawpog46: Idk if this is a joke or not, since in the actual lore, Boethiah swallowed Trinimac and shit out Malacath
- 02:55:20: ShawnCognitionCP: Never forget Cyrus throatpunched Tiber Septim on the moon
- 02:55:26: Jr seriel: kora no?
- 02:55:27: ShawnCognitionCP: That's lore, Saw
- 02:55:30: ShawnCognitionCP: But it wasn't literal
- 02:55:40: Sawpog46: I wnt to actually learn bout him
- 02:55:48: ShawnCognitionCP: She destroyed Triminac and Malacath was born from that.
- 02:55:53: ShawnCognitionCP: Everything I posted was true, Saw.
- 02:55:57: ShawnCognitionCP: Vivec genuinely did all of that.
- 02:56:00: Nekyn Alb: Vv puts his dick into peoples mouths to win fights
- 02:56:03: Jr seriel: she/he *
- 02:56:04: Kora Stormblade: shieeet
- 02:56:08: Nekyn Alb: ze
- 02:56:18: Sawpog46: But this chat is jokes idk wht to trust
- 02:56:23: ShawnCognitionCP: CHIM is realizing the universe is a dream of the Godhead, and that each individual is truly one, but yet you keep your sense of individuality.
- 02:56:30: Blizzard1289: CHIM is kind of awesome.
- 02:56:35: Nekyn Alb: He also put his vag around one dude's head to choke him
- 02:56:40: Blizzard1289: How does one achieve him CHIM anyway?
- 02:56:40: Sawpog46: Ok now ur jus bein silly
- 02:56:45: Nekyn Alb: no
- 02:56:46: Sawpog46: Bro I need REAL LORE
- 02:56:47: ShawnCognitionCP: I just said so.
- 02:56:48: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: chim is basically lucid dreaming, except in reality
- 02:56:51: Nekyn Alb: no
- 02:56:59: Blizzard1289: You just have to realize you're in the dream?
- 02:57:01: ShawnCognitionCP: In a nutshell, CHIM is realizing everything is just a dream.
- 02:57:09: ShawnCognitionCP: If you fuck up, you zero-sum.
- 02:57:11: ShawnCognitionCP: Cease to exist.
- 02:57:15: Jr seriel: I thought he put the spear through azuras mouth and muatra or whatever is just the same name as his falic. But he didn't actually put that in there
- 02:57:19: Nekyn Alb: CHIM is cosmic awareness
- 02:57:19: ShawnCognitionCP: Only two people have ever achieved CHIM that we 100% know.
- 02:57:26: ShawnCognitionCP: Tiber Septim and Vehk/Vivec.
- 02:57:27: Nekyn Alb: Jubal
- 02:57:27: Jr seriel: Tiber and vivec
- 02:57:33: Jr seriel: ye
- 02:57:35: ShawnCognitionCP: Muatra is his cock, Seriel
- 02:57:38: ShawnCognitionCP: "Spear" is a metaphor
- 02:57:39: Nekyn Alb: and his vag
- 02:57:43: Sawpog46: Ugh nvm whtvr
- 02:57:45: ShawnCognitionCP: He canonly kills things with his dick
- 02:57:53: Sawpog46: Also
- 02:57:54: ShawnCognitionCP: Saw, we are being serious.
- 02:57:54: Blizzard1289: For some reason I thought it was more complicated than that. Like, just thinking about it wasn't all there was.
- 02:58:00: Nekyn Alb: he was also a prostitute as a child
- 02:58:00: Sawpog46: That thing about Cyrodiil being a jungle
- 02:58:02: Sawpog46: STUPIDDDDD
- 02:58:03: Sawpog46: DUMB
- 02:58:04: Sawpog46: I hate it
- 02:58:07: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: he gives birth to things and then kills them with his dick
- 02:58:10: Jr seriel: Like naming your gun. "yourmom" so that you get killed by yourmom
- 02:58:10: ShawnCognitionCP: Tiber CHIM'd the trees away.
- 02:58:14: Sawpog46: Fuck that
- 02:58:17: Sawpog46: Dumbest lore ever
- 02:58:22: Nekyn Alb: Either Tiber chimmed, shouted or towered it away
- 02:58:25: Sawpog46: I ignore it just like how I ignore Star Wars Legends
- 02:58:26: Blizzard1289: Yeah. There is a lot of dumb lore out there. XD
- 02:58:32: Blizzard1289: Like Molag Bal's daughter.
- 02:58:36: Sawpog46: R U FR
- 02:58:42: Sawpog46: Im dead Molag Bal has a daugher?
- 02:58:44: Sawpog46: *daughter
- 02:58:45: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: lore being dumb doesn't make it non-canonical
- 02:58:47: Sawpog46: Lemme see
- 02:58:53: Nekyn Alb: Star Wars Legends is a dozen times better than Disney's shit
- 02:58:53: Blizzard1289: [[Molag Grunda]]
- 02:58:59: Jr seriel: I don't want to get in the fated; what is canon or not?
- 02:59:00: Sawpog46: Lmfao "Grunda"
- 02:59:05: Nekyn Alb: Yes
- 02:59:07: Sawpog46: Nekyn
- 02:59:09: ShawnCognitionCP: MK is canon
- 02:59:10: Sawpog46: I know it is
- 02:59:12: Jr seriel: But I believe that if its not in the game than it didnt happen
- 02:59:13: Sawpog46: What I meant was
- 02:59:20: Blizzard1289: There's stupid lore, and than there's Molag Bal having a daughter levels of cringe.
- 02:59:22: ShawnCognitionCP: ESO directly canonized a lot of MK lore that was previously out-of-game.
- 02:59:24: Sawpog46: I ignore that its called Legends
- 02:59:28: Sawpog46: I only like Expanded Universe
- 02:59:29: Jr seriel: indeed it did
- 02:59:32: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: it doesn't matter what is canon and what isn't. you can always invent or ignore things to suit your playthrough
- 02:59:32: ShawnCognitionCP: well
- 02:59:33: Nekyn Alb: ah
- 02:59:37: ShawnCognitionCP: Molag and Vivec had a fuckton of kids
- 02:59:46: ShawnCognitionCP: Which then got Chad-slapped to death
- 02:59:53: Sawpog46: Tbh
- 02:59:54: Jr seriel: indeed ashley,
- 03:00:00: Sawpog46: Its not unreasonable for him to have a daughter
- 03:00:05: Sawpog46: Isnt he like a rapist
- 03:00:07: Blizzard1289: Seriously, that whole plot line in Morrowind was straight out an Elder Scrolls cartoon.
- 03:00:12: Nekyn Alb: yeh
- 03:00:14: Blizzard1289: I cannot believe that's actually canon.
- 03:00:23: ShawnCognitionCP: TES started as D&D
- 03:00:28: ShawnCognitionCP: Molag Bal is likely meant to be Orcus
- 03:00:31: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: morrowind's plot is definitely canon
- 03:00:31: Nekyn Alb: That's because you didn't choke on enough moon sugar yet
- 03:00:37: ShawnCognitionCP: Orcus has several half-human children he kills before they age
- 03:00:41: The Crusader of Truth: /yet/
- 03:00:42: Nekyn Alb: let the spice flow through your unbroadened mind
- 03:00:46: The Crusader of Truth: We'll make a chad out of you yet
- 03:00:46: Nekyn Alb: owait wrong universe
- 03:00:46: ShawnCognitionCP: Molag wants them dead likely as a line drawn between them
- 03:00:48: Nekyn Alb: or is it
- 03:00:51: Sawpog46: Anybody like WoW
- 03:00:53: Sawpog46: Here
- 03:00:57: Blizzard1289: I know. 99% of Morrowind is genius, deep mythology.
- 03:01:07: ShawnCognitionCP: Morrowind is tied for my favorite game of all time.
- 03:01:11: ShawnCognitionCP: The tie is with The Witcher 3.
- 03:01:21: Sawpog46: Morrowind sucks
- 03:01:27: The Crusader of Truth: Hey Kora, afk?
- 03:01:32: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: morrowind had fascinating lore, but i kinda dislike the gameplay
- 03:01:34: Kora Stormblade: yooo
- 03:01:37: Blizzard1289: Why do you say that Saw?
- 03:01:45: Sawpog46: The gameplay is terrible I couldnt even enjoy it
- 03:01:48: Sawpog46: Its so dated
- 03:01:49: The Crusader of Truth: Can you check that new page I made and make sure it's sexy?
- 03:01:50: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: my favorite game is probably either pokemon or fire emblem
- 03:01:51: ShawnCognitionCP: I absolutely love the gameplay.
- 03:01:56: Kora Stormblade: well no shit it's dated lmao
- 03:01:57: Blizzard1289: It's a really, really old school RPG system, Saw.
- 03:02:00: Sawpog46: Wow u do u but I disagree sooo bad
- 03:02:05: Sawpog46: Blizz
- 03:02:06: ShawnCognitionCP: Morrowind's gameplay is only bad if you're stupid and make a horrible character.
- 03:02:08: Nekyn Alb: You need to play about 5 hours of Morrowind, then it's not so bad anymore
- 03:02:08: Jr seriel: I miss jumping around
- 03:02:13: Sawpog46: I havent ever played Skyrim
- 03:02:17: Kora Stormblade: Yea what nekyn said
- 03:02:18: ShawnCognitionCP: Morrowind reflects PNPRPGs very well.
- 03:02:22: Blizzard1289: Wait, Saw.
- 03:02:22: Sawpog46: So Im used to dated but thats Sliced Bread dated
- 03:02:27: Blizzard1289: Why haven't you?
- 03:02:30: ShawnCognitionCP: Or have a decent luck stat, Nekyn.
- 03:02:31: Blizzard1289: Why are you here then? XD
- 03:02:31: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: guess i don't like PNPRPGs then
- 03:02:34: Kora Stormblade: It's difficult because it doesn't pander like current games do
- 03:02:40: Sawpog46: Ive only ever played Oblivion
- 03:02:44: Nekyn Alb: It's fucking awful at the start when you can't hit shit
- 03:02:45: Sawpog46: Im upgrading to Skyrim tmr
- 03:02:51: ShawnCognitionCP: Oblivion is sexc
- 03:02:54: Sawpog46: No its terrible
- 03:02:56: Sawpog46: Im sick of it
- 03:02:57: ShawnCognitionCP: Luck, Nekyn
- 03:02:59: Nekyn Alb: what, am I supposed to cheat my luck to 100 right at the beginning
- 03:03:01: Blizzard1289: Oblivion is cool, but there character models looked like potatoes.
- 03:03:02: Sawpog46: Only reason I kept it around was for my mod idea
- 03:03:03: Jr seriel: no its cool
- 03:03:04: ShawnCognitionCP: No
- 03:03:07: Sawpog46: But that wont happen for a while
- 03:03:07: The Crusader of Truth: damnit kora dont make me tell my mom youre not helping ;(
- 03:03:13: ShawnCognitionCP: If you have even a semi-decent luck stat, you won't miss much.
- 03:03:17: Jr seriel: yo sawpog what is your mom idea
- 03:03:22: ShawnCognitionCP: Also, /put points in the weapon you'll use at the start/
- 03:03:25: Sawpog46: "Mom idea" U talkin bout my mama
- 03:03:27: Sawpog46: Jk
- 03:03:32: ShawnCognitionCP: If you will use a spear, don't put points in fucking longsword
- 03:03:34: Kora Stormblade: tf crus
- 03:03:36: Sawpog46: Ill giv u the link in PM
- 03:03:36: Nekyn Alb: When I began I thought luck was just for loot like everywhere else
- 03:03:39: The Crusader of Truth: tf?
- 03:03:40: Kora Stormblade: what u want boi ?? :(
- 03:03:41: ShawnCognitionCP: You have to actually build your character.
- 03:03:43: Blizzard1289: Kora, aren't you the one who said Orcs in Oblivion looked too much like Shrek?
- 03:03:49: Nekyn Alb: I always put everything in my spear
- 03:03:53: Kora Stormblade: I don't remember ever saying that?
- 03:03:54: The Crusader of Truth: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Adamantium_Dai-Katana_(Arena)
- 03:03:59: ShawnCognitionCP: All characters in Oblivion look like pieces of bread facial-structure wise.
- 03:03:59: The Crusader of Truth: i want you to check dis
- 03:04:02: Kora Stormblade: But I mean I guess they do
- 03:04:02: Blizzard1289: Well, whoever said it was right.
- 03:04:06: The Crusader of Truth: and make sure its up to the sexy standard
- 03:04:11: Kora Stormblade: oki
- 03:04:21: Blizzard1289: They look like actual warriors in Skyrim.
- 03:04:25: Jr seriel: Why is the standard, sexy?
- 03:04:27: The Crusader of Truth: Don't want to make 80 pages and have them messed up because I always forget that one thing
- 03:04:43: The Crusader of Truth: Because its as sexy as the person who makes it and Im very sexy
- 03:04:49: Nekyn Alb: chad
- 03:04:50: Jr seriel: There is nothing sexier than Century Gothic Regular
- 03:05:20: The Crusader of Truth: If you meditate on the word sexy long enough you'll hear my name echo through your head
- 03:05:27: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: you can make a sexy standard, but nothing is going to beat Yagrum Bagarn in that regard
- 03:05:33: Kora Stormblade: Im confused as to why we dont have an adamantium weapons page for arena
- 03:05:35: Jr seriel: And then I will reach CHIM?
- 03:05:53: Nekyn Alb: If you give Yagrum enough backrubs
- 03:05:53: Kora Stormblade: The entire list is on the [[Adamantium Weapons]] page
- 03:05:56: ShawnCognitionCP: https://youtu.be/95Gm3r4Gsfo?t=101 How to turn from a virgin to a chad
- 03:05:57: KINMUNE: Unsilent Death by Nails
- 03:06:08: The Crusader of Truth: Because some genius made a list of links that redirected right back to the page, Kora
- 03:06:11: Nekyn Alb: You want him to get nailsed?
- 03:06:22: Kora Stormblade: Do you know how to break redirects?
- 03:06:33: The Crusader of Truth: I already am working on it
- 03:06:34: ShawnCognitionCP: The guitar tone forces evolution to occur akin to the monoliths from 2001: A Space Odyssey
- 03:06:38: Nekyn Alb: Slap 'em an' tell 'em who da momma is
- 03:06:39: The Crusader of Truth: They're all disambigs now
- 03:06:48: Kora Stormblade: rip
- 03:06:59: The Crusader of Truth: Eventually Im going to break that page up into a disambig itself
- 03:07:12: The Crusader of Truth: But I have to have the pages right first
- 03:07:24: Nekyn Alb: go left sometimes
- 03:07:26: Kora Stormblade: I think the page you wanted me to check is good though, it's just that redlink stuck out
- 03:07:30: Blizzard1289: Kora. Do you have experience with Wiki policy
- 03:07:32: The Crusader of Truth: okie
- 03:07:36: Sawpog46: Wouldnt it be epic if Dovahkiin was a Mortal Kombat character
- 03:07:42: Blizzard1289: Yes.
- 03:07:48: Nekyn Alb: No, Kora is constantly getting banned, don't trust her
- 03:07:52: Sawpog46: We needa make that happen
- 03:08:06: Nekyn Alb: LDB would just shout everything to dust
- 03:08:20: ShawnCognitionCP: Depends if it's lore LDB or in-game LDB
- 03:08:30: ShawnCognitionCP: In game is so far below the MK powerscale it wouldn't even make sense.
- 03:08:33: Blizzard1289: I would've loved that in MK9 or something. But MKX just wouldn't fit.
- 03:08:35: ShawnCognitionCP: He'd just get absolutely fucked.
- 03:08:37: Kora Stormblade: yea I get banned 24/7
- 03:08:41: Nekyn Alb: ingame LDB fights akin to a paraphlegic child
- 03:08:48: ShawnCognitionCP: ^
- 03:08:49: Kora Stormblade: and what do you mean, like with editing or blocking grounds
- 03:08:50: Blizzard1289: No, I mean, writing Wiki policy.
- 03:08:54: ShawnCognitionCP: return to idle after every attack
- 03:09:07: ShawnCognitionCP: In game LDB doesn't understand you can attack more than once
- 03:09:10: Nekyn Alb: swing from left to right and for stronk attacks from above
- 03:09:32: Kora Stormblade: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_Wiki:Policies_and_Guidelines
- 03:09:41: Nekyn Alb: also, batista bomb your enemies if you don't have a weapon
- 03:10:20: Kora Stormblade: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Help:Editing
- 03:11:00: Kora Stormblade: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_Wiki:Style_and_Formatting
- 03:11:08: ShawnCognitionCP: Crusader, make this play on your profile https://youtu.be/bRhg2zvalXc?t=82
- 03:11:09: KINMUNE: Sabaton - The Last Stand (Lyrics English & Deutsch)
- 03:11:11: Nekyn Alb: unarmed attacks always make me think of a WWE game, some smol Khajiit lifting up a 2 metre heavy armor nord
- 03:11:21: Kora Stormblade: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_Wiki:Neutral_point_of_view
- 03:11:24: Kora Stormblade: Hope those work
- 03:11:46: The Crusader of Truth: I personally hate autoplay and play functions so nah
- 03:11:54: The Crusader of Truth: I can make it work on yours though if you want
- 03:12:02: ShawnCognitionCP: It wasn't a genuine suggestion
- 03:12:04: ShawnCognitionCP: No
- 03:12:06: The Crusader of Truth: o ok
- 03:12:14: ShawnCognitionCP: Mine plays Genital Grinder and that will stay
- 03:12:32: Nekyn Alb: not better than that song which is forbidden in Germany
- 03:12:47: ShawnCognitionCP: I changed it purely for that reason.
- 03:12:53: Blizzard1289: Hey guys, can you do me a favor?
- 03:12:54: Nekyn Alb: One basically cannot open your profile in earshot of other people anyway
- 03:12:59: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i hate it when profiles make noise when i visit them
- 03:13:04: ShawnCognitionCP: AES contacted me about how it may get someone in genuine trouble in public.
- 03:13:10: ShawnCognitionCP: Changed it out of request.
- 03:13:17: Nekyn Alb: That'd be gay, Blizz
- 03:13:46: Nekyn Alb: I request you to change it to the gummy bear theme
- 03:14:29: ShawnCognitionCP: I'll sooner die
- 03:14:39: Nekyn Alb: I'll take that too
- 03:14:40: ShawnCognitionCP: Or date a Muslim
- 03:14:43: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: the my little pony theme song will also do
- 03:14:53: ShawnCognitionCP: For Christmas
- 03:14:54: Nekyn Alb: ayyy, get me Muhammada
- 03:15:30: Nekyn Alb: Would you date Brad Pitt?
- 03:16:03: ShawnCognitionCP: I'm not a twink reeeee
- 03:16:21: Nekyn Alb: is that a yes
- 03:16:39: ShawnCognitionCP: He was great in Inglourious Basterds
- 03:16:44: Nekyn Alb: Cuck
- 03:17:00: Nekyn Alb: That didn't really work
- 03:17:05: ShawnCognitionCP: Commending his performance in one film makes me a cuck?
- 03:17:11: Nekyn Alb: please answer with yes or no only
- 03:17:17: ShawnCognitionCP: I said no
- 03:17:19: Nekyn Alb: Chad
- 03:17:22: ShawnCognitionCP: "I'm not a twink"
- 03:17:42: Nekyn Alb: I totally know what that is
- 03:17:52: ShawnCognitionCP: Twink is slang for homosexual.
- 03:18:18: Nekyn Alb: You wanna buy me some Twinkies?
- 03:18:30: Qahnaarin1997: Shawn, is History in Black by Priest a "Fuck you" to Tobias?
- 03:18:43: ShawnCognitionCP: Likely
- 03:18:57: ShawnCognitionCP: Tobias got shade from Magna Carta Cartel in the newer version of Swing as well.
- 03:19:16: Qahnaarin1997: The one from Demon King EP?
- 03:19:24: ShawnCognitionCP: Yes.
- 03:19:38: ShawnCognitionCP: The lyrics are slightly changed to reflect the disbanding of Ghost.
- 03:19:50: Qahnaarin1997: History in Black is the only Priest song I midly enjoy tbh
- 03:19:56: Nekyn Alb: Imma go to bed now, goodbye o/
- 03:19:59: Qahnaarin1997: MCC is great throughout tho
- 03:20:03: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: bye
- 03:20:08: ShawnCognitionCP: I like the beat of The Pit.
- 03:20:15: ShawnCognitionCP: I generally dislike technological music, though.
- 03:20:31: ShawnCognitionCP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veQqPs5Q05k
- 03:20:33: KINMUNE: PRIEST - THE PIT (Official Video)
- 03:22:25: ShawnCognitionCP: I also generally am not a fan of gothic atmosphere unless it's done 100% right.
- 03:22:33: ShawnCognitionCP: Type O Negative is an example of 100% right.
- 03:23:12: Jr seriel: Why are there no wraiths in skyrim?
- 03:23:29: ShawnCognitionCP: Wraith is essentially just a word of evil-natured ghosts.
- 03:23:29: Qahnaarin1997: The general sound of Priest is offputting for me
- 03:23:30: ShawnCognitionCP: There are.
- 03:23:34: ShawnCognitionCP: They just aren't called wraiths.
- 03:23:39: Qahnaarin1997: Whisp-Mother
- 03:23:43: ShawnCognitionCP: ^
- 03:23:47: ShawnCognitionCP: Dungeon ghosts as well.
- 03:24:09: Qahnaarin1997: In fact, I think there is a creature named wraith in the game
- 03:24:11: Jr seriel: But there were ghosts in oblvion who were hostile
- 03:24:13: ShawnCognitionCP: Ice Wraith.
- 03:24:19: Jr seriel: they were different than wraiths
- 03:24:29: Jr seriel: and yes there are ice wraiths but those are just ghost lizards
- 03:24:36: Qahnaarin1997: Not that, these are more humanoid ghosts, SHawn.
- 03:24:40: ShawnCognitionCP: There's also "Ghost" and "Spirit".
- 03:24:52: ShawnCognitionCP: And "Specter"
- 03:24:57: ShawnCognitionCP: All of which mean the same thing.
- 03:25:02: ShawnCognitionCP: Different enemy types in the series.
- 03:25:51: Qahnaarin1997: Shawn, 30 is the level cap in NV without DLC, right?
- 03:25:51: Jr seriel: Interesting
- 03:25:59: ShawnCognitionCP: I believe so.
- 03:26:29: Qahnaarin1997: Good, I need 100 speech to avoid fighting that legion legate fucker at the dam
- 03:26:41: Qahnaarin1997: He's a bitch even with AMR explosive rounds
- 03:27:08: Jr seriel: btw I think I did a nice job transitioning the previous hot topic to a conversation about vivec and coda
- 03:27:27: Jr seriel: I just want to pat myself on the back alittle
- 03:27:27: ShawnCognitionCP: We jump topics a lot here.
- 03:28:07: Jr seriel: Ugh work deadlines suck
- 03:28:35: ShawnCognitionCP: For?
- 03:28:59: Jr seriel: I work for a DOD contractor
- 03:29:28: ShawnCognitionCP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgkBWZXVLyk
- 03:29:28: KINMUNE: Type O Negative - My Girlfriend's Girlfriend [OFFICIAL VIDEO]
- 03:29:35: ShawnCognitionCP: Zen Kuroi 1 year ago Don't talk to me or my girlfriend's girlfriend ever again.
- 03:30:53: Jr seriel: SNL just is not very good anymore
- 03:31:52: Blizzard1289: Where did that come from? XD
- 03:32:08: Jr seriel: It is on right now
- 03:32:14: Blizzard1289: Ohhhhh.
- 03:32:18: Qahnaarin1997: Type O Negative is pretty good.
- 03:32:27: ShawnCognitionCP: I love Type O Negative.
- 03:32:34: Jr seriel: Muse
- 03:32:37: Blizzard1289: Yeah SNL is hit or miss.
- 03:32:47: ShawnCognitionCP: Lil' Miss Scare All (Black Number 1) and Christian Woman are fantastic songs.
- 03:33:18: ShawnCognitionCP: Ever listen to Blood Feast by Hymen Holocaust, Qahn?
- 03:33:49: KINMUNE: Hello there, Darklover1232!
- 03:34:29: Jr seriel: I just don't understand why people like this david s pumpkins thing
- 03:34:47: Blizzard1289: Oh Shawn, you and Hymen Holocaust.
- 03:34:57: Blizzard1289: How many times have you linked that song on this chat? XD
- 03:35:05: ShawnCognitionCP: Hymen Holocaust is a band reeeee
- 03:35:13: Blizzard1289: Squirt 'till it hurts.
- 03:35:25: Jr seriel: more of a steel panther fan myself
- 03:35:29: Blizzard1289: Was that a song or an extension of their name? XD
- 03:35:32: ShawnCognitionCP: The riff in that song is godly.
- 03:35:34: ShawnCognitionCP: Song.
- 03:35:38: ShawnCognitionCP: Steel Panther is funny.
- 03:35:48: ShawnCognitionCP: Good at making fun of glam metal.
- 03:36:28: ShawnCognitionCP: If you want to be technical, Hymen Holocaust isn't metal tho
- 03:37:39: Jr seriel: Honestly don't really listen to anything besides rachmoninoff on loops
- 03:37:48: Jr seriel: these days
- 03:38:41: ShawnCognitionCP: I listen to almost every metal genre, all Grind genres, 70s-80s rock, folk punk, folk music, and some very specific rap.
- 03:39:26: Jr seriel: Very cool! I also tend to listen to a lot of Polka music too, blame it on my polishness
- 03:39:50: Qahnaarin1997: Shawn what about "Fuck the pain away" lol
- 03:39:53: ShawnCognitionCP: korpiklaani ievan polkka
- 03:40:02: ShawnCognitionCP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rb_yAxFL93A
- 03:40:03: KINMUNE: Korpiklaani - Ievan Polkka (FINNISH with lyrics)
- 03:40:05: ShawnCognitionCP: Copy/paste failure
- 03:40:35: Jr seriel: once I heard the djent I had to click away
- 03:40:39: ShawnCognitionCP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUAi5p2rSRw , Qahn
- 03:40:41: KINMUNE: Hymen Holocaust - Rape, Sex, Death
- 03:40:50: ShawnCognitionCP: It's not djent in any sense
- 03:41:03: ShawnCognitionCP: Djent is a very specific (and homosexual) way of playing guitar.
- 03:41:03: Jr seriel: Idk
- 03:41:11: Jr seriel: Do you play guitar?
- 03:41:15: ShawnCognitionCP: No.
- 03:41:23: ShawnCognitionCP: I own two.
- 03:41:27: ShawnCognitionCP: Never had a single lesson.
- 03:41:34: Jr seriel: But do you play them?
- 03:41:39: ShawnCognitionCP: No.
- 03:41:42: ShawnCognitionCP: As I said.
- 03:41:51: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: why own guitars if you don't take lessons or play?
- 03:42:00: Jr seriel: Well you don't need to have a lesson to play guitar
- 03:42:03: ShawnCognitionCP: I own a lot of shit I don't have any interest in touching.
- 03:42:09: ShawnCognitionCP: I have a snowboard and can't snowboard.
- 03:42:15: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: why?
- 03:42:20: Jr seriel: yes why?
- 03:42:22: ShawnCognitionCP: Because I saw it and wanted it.
- 03:42:30: Jr seriel: Well alright then
- 03:42:36: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: ok then
- 03:43:14: Jr seriel: I wouldn't say djent is homosexual?
- 03:43:27: ShawnCognitionCP: All metalcore is.
- 03:43:35: ShawnCognitionCP: Djent is metalcore in origin.
- 03:43:49: Jr seriel: I do not know of a single homosexual person who likes metalcore actually
- 03:44:40: Jr seriel: Wait is tonight Halloween?
- 03:44:44: Jr seriel: When is Halloween
- 03:44:46: ShawnCognitionCP: You know I'm not being literal when I say it's homosexual.
- 03:44:50: ShawnCognitionCP: The 31st.
- 03:44:53: Jr seriel: its the 31
- 03:44:54: Jr seriel: good
- 03:45:24: Jr seriel: Well no I dont shawn. What do you mean by that?
- 03:45:47: ShawnCognitionCP: It means I'm not genuinely saying that metalcore and its fans are homosexuals.
- 03:45:55: ShawnCognitionCP: I'm using "homosexual" as a broad derogatory term.
- 03:46:01: Jr seriel: Why
- 03:46:01: ShawnCognitionCP: Not true to its definition.
- 03:46:41: Jr seriel: Why would you use that word in that way
- 03:48:14: ShawnCognitionCP: Because it's a frequented mildly-comedic derogatory term in society and has been used as such for a lengthy period of time, isn't a 100% serious derogatory term and shows some mild humor, plus it isn't as straight forward or as vulgar as many alternatives.
- 03:48:22: ShawnCognitionCP: Pick your justification out of the three, any work.
- 03:51:20: Jr seriel: The argument that just because society does it or tells you that it is ok to say that is not a very good argument. Also last time I checked the forum chat policy is clear about making personal attacks on people and using a term derogatorily flagaratly violates this.
- 03:51:24: Jr seriel: This is found here
- 03:51:25: Jr seriel: Personal attacks Personal attacks against another user will not be tolerated. This wiki has a zero-tolerance policy on bullying, even if the user is currently offline. We define bullying as the targeting of someone and speaking to them in a derogatory manner due to their nationality, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, religion, interests, sociological factors (spelling, grammar, intellect, etc), psychological state (mental illnesses), or physical appearance. Also includes goading other users with comments that you know will provoke a reaction.
- 03:51:41: ShawnCognitionCP: I wrote the rules for chat, I'm well aware.
- 03:51:48: ShawnCognitionCP: It isn't a personal attack.
- 03:51:58: ShawnCognitionCP: We have one open homosexual on chat and they've made it clear they don't give a fuck.
- 03:52:05: ShawnCognitionCP: I also doubt they'd appriciate you white-knighting for them.
- 03:52:23: Jr seriel: It is if someone is offended by that word. Not just the other member
- 03:52:42: ShawnCognitionCP: Are homosexuals incapable of dealing with a childish joke? Are they incapable of defending themselves and need an external power, namely a straight one, to defend them?
- 03:52:51: Jr seriel: Perhaps
- 03:52:59: ShawnCognitionCP: Again, I wrote the rules. I'm well aware of what my int-
- 03:53:03: ShawnCognitionCP: >Don't use gay as an insult
- 03:53:11: Qahnaarin1997: Both of you just shut up.
- 03:53:22: ShawnCognitionCP: >yes, perhaps they are incapable of taking a joke and must be defended by those much more capable
- 03:53:26: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: you didn't write the current revision of the rules
- 03:53:36: Qahnaarin1997: iirc, he did.
- 03:53:42: ShawnCognitionCP: I wrote the ruleset the revision lightly edited.
- 03:53:51: ShawnCognitionCP: There are two changes and neither are with that rule.
- 03:54:01: ShawnCognitionCP: Interjection was irrelevant.
- 03:54:13: Blizzard1289: Shawn was a Chat Mod for awhile If I'm remembering correctly.
- 03:54:20: Sawpog46: Im back
- 03:54:26: ShawnCognitionCP: A long time ago, it's irrelevant at this point.
- 03:54:41: Sawpog46: Lol whts going on now
- 03:54:41: ShawnCognitionCP: Revising the ruleset was far after that point.
- 03:54:49: Blizzard1289: Ah.
- 03:54:59: The Crusader of Truth: Going to bed. Goodnight o/
- 03:55:02: Jr seriel: By that inference you just implied that straight folk are superior to homosexual folk
- 03:55:02: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: gn
- 03:55:05: Blizzard1289: See you, man.
- 03:55:08: ShawnCognitionCP: No, I pointed out you did.
- 03:55:20: ShawnCognitionCP: You said "perhaps" to me asking if they needed a straight person to defend them.
- 03:55:32: Sawpog46: Jfc this chat rlly went from 0 to 100 in the 30 min I was gone
- 03:55:32: ShawnCognitionCP: ">" = pointing out an implication made by another
- 03:55:36: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: as a gay person, i can confirm that we need straight people to tell us what we're supposed to be offended by
- 03:55:37: Jr seriel: It was perhaps t the first point
- 03:55:46: Blizzard1289: XD
- 03:55:56: Sawpog46: U dont speak for all gay ppl
- 03:56:08: Sawpog46: I hate when ppl say the "can confirm" shit no matter wht side they're on
- 03:56:10: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: true, but you definitely don't either
- 03:56:17: Sawpog46: Idek whts being talked about
- 03:56:18: ShawnCognitionCP: The one homosexual user here states they outright are not offended by it, and in turn a heterosexual user white knights them and defends them against their will.
- 03:56:22: Jr seriel: I don't mean to be controversial but I don't think that language should be tolerated
- 03:56:23: Blizzard1289: Ashley is actually their representitive.
- 03:56:35: ShawnCognitionCP: I've made it clear that if the /actual/ homosexual user were offended by it, I would not use it.
- 03:56:42: Sawpog46: Tbh gay is a silly insult but just like fag Ik ppl who use it
- 03:56:43: Jr seriel: How dare you assume my sexual orientation
- 03:56:46: ShawnCognitionCP: I don't care about what a white knight has to say in their place.
- 03:56:47: Blizzard1289: There was a vote last year I think. /s
- 03:56:50: Sawpog46: I use it sometimes but only jokingly
- 03:56:57: Sawpog46: My uncles gay I hav nothin against homosexuals
- 03:57:00: ShawnCognitionCP: It was used jokingly, Saw.
- 03:57:03: ShawnCognitionCP: Okay, lol.
- 03:57:17: Sawpog46: Idk why ur laughin out loud bout that
- 03:57:36: ShawnCognitionCP: The randomness of bringing up your uncle to prove you aren't homophobic.
- 03:57:43: Sawpog46: I was just saying
- 03:57:45: ShawnCognitionCP: Reminds me of "I'm not racist I have a black friend"
- 03:58:12: Sawpog46: No reason to make a problem out of a simple statement
- 03:58:26: ShawnCognitionCP: I wasn't.
- 03:58:35: ShawnCognitionCP: I laughed at the randomness and explained why when you asked.
- 03:58:37: ShawnCognitionCP: Pls nibba
- 03:58:49: Sawpog46: Dont call me that
- 03:58:53: Sawpog46: And k
- 03:59:27: Qahnaarin1997: Shawn is a nibba
- 03:59:41: Qahnaarin1997: Lord Mukuba or something like that
- 04:00:03: ShawnCognitionCP: High-Chief Mokumbu
- 04:00:08: ShawnCognitionCP: It is my Afrikaans name.
- 04:00:20: Blizzard1289: I got to go. It was nice talking to you all! :P
- 04:00:24: Qahnaarin1997: That day in CC Chat was great
- 04:00:28: Jr seriel: Au revoir
- 04:00:36: Qahnaarin1997: Do they still think you to be sub human?
- 04:00:44: ShawnCognitionCP: we dye our skin with de chlorinol to be like de wite neger
- 04:00:47: ShawnCognitionCP: Different day
- 04:00:54: ShawnCognitionCP: That was when I told a suicide joke with Camlorn
- 04:00:56: ShawnCognitionCP: On this chat
- 04:01:04: ShawnCognitionCP: Sansse called me subhuman, rip
- 04:01:24: Qahnaarin1997: lol
- 04:02:44: Sawpog46: Anyway moving on
- 04:02:46: Sawpog46: Who saw IT
- 04:03:36: Sawpog46: The movie It
- 04:04:04: ShawnCognitionCP: Qahn did.
- 04:04:16: Sawpog46: Great movie
- 04:04:25: Qahnaarin1997: I did, twice.
- 04:04:35: Sawpog46: Nostalgia Critic didnt like it
- 04:04:41: Sawpog46: Hes so biased on it tho
- 04:33:45: ShawnCognitionCP: Chat machine broke
- 04:34:13: Jr seriel: KINMUNE
- 05:46:22: Jr seriel: Hey
- 05:48:41: BronzeAir: hey
- 06:02:10: RenzXVI: I am so full, I ate too much lightly fried fish filets.
- 06:59:24: KINMUNE: Hello there, Skyrim90000!
- 07:05:25: Jr seriel: Why does Bethesda like giant robots
- 08:13:56: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: hi fin
- 08:14:14: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: ello :D
- 08:17:55: Jr seriel: Hello
- 08:18:03: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: hello
- 08:18:40: Jr seriel: So what is the deal with bethesda and giant robots
- 08:19:22: RenzXVI: They like turtles.
- 08:21:11: Jr seriel: Thank you, the best answer so far
- 08:23:23: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: giant robots?
- 08:23:39: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: besides Numidium and Akulakhan, i don't know of any
- 08:24:12: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: there's one in Fallout 3 as well
- 08:24:18: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: oh
- 08:25:15: Jr seriel: and that same one is again in fallout 4
- 08:25:52: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: it's in 4? :o
- 08:25:55: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: where?
- 08:25:59: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: what does it do?
- 08:26:10: Jr seriel: no spoilers
- 08:26:31: Jr seriel: even though the game has been out for like 2 years now
- 08:30:18: RenzXVI: If Finelia had finished it, she probably just forgot about it. XD
- 08:34:17: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: lol xD
- 08:36:00: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: I haven't layed 4 tho
- 08:36:03: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: played
- 08:36:07: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: probably never will
- 08:38:39: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: you don't like fallout?
- 08:40:37: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: I love Fallout
- 08:40:40: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: just not 4
- 08:40:40: RenzXVI: She probably does, and just forgot she likes it.
- 08:40:42: RenzXVI: Oh.
- 08:40:57: RenzXVI: But 4 has the giant hermit crab.
- 08:41:04: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: also it requires directx 11 which I don't have
- 08:41:56: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: idk what directx 11 is, but i'm sure you can pirate it somewhere
- 08:45:08: RenzXVI: I thought that was one of those things that the game just autoinstalls when you are installing the game.
- 08:47:27: RenzXVI: Of course if you manually allow it to autoinstall, because that's how automatic things work. XD
- 08:58:11: Jr seriel: Directx is on the windows OS
- 08:58:43: RenzXVI: Oh
- 08:58:46: Jr seriel: If you are running like Windows 7 or Vista, You do not get to play fallout4
- 09:00:31: Jr seriel: Wait I am thinking of DX12. DX11 is on Vista and XP
- 09:01:40: Jr seriel: Alright its late, Until next time folks
- 09:07:03: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: wasn't windows 10 for free at some point?
- 09:07:57: RenzXVI: It was for a long time.
- 09:08:03: RenzXVI: It isn't anymore?
- 09:08:09: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: idk
- 11:43:55: KINMUNE: Hello there, Flightmare!
- 11:44:07: Flightmare: o/
- 11:45:16: Flightmare: o/
- 11:45:30: RenzXVI: hi
- 12:01:05: KINMUNE: Hello there, The cheese lord of nirn!
- 12:01:19: The cheese lord of nirn: Wow, flight is here?
- 12:01:30: The cheese lord of nirn: Ashley. Question
- 12:01:42: The cheese lord of nirn: Or renz
- 12:02:17: The cheese lord of nirn: KINMUNE, do you know how to edit articles to catergories?
- 12:02:18: KINMUNE: No.
- 12:02:35: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i don't know either, i'm afraid
- 12:03:12: The cheese lord of nirn: Damn. Ok
- 12:03:52: The cheese lord of nirn: I'm just wondering. I saw the achievement for that
- 12:05:50: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: you shouldn't do things just for the achievements though
- 12:08:35: The cheese lord of nirn: I'm not. I do others
- 12:08:58: The cheese lord of nirn: Im.not an achievement hunter
- 12:11:59: RenzXVI: What?
- 12:12:01: RenzXVI: Add categories?
- 12:12:05: RenzXVI: There's two ways.
- 12:12:55: RenzXVI: There's a box on the right when you are in source edit mode which has all the categories, clicking on those is the easy way. The harder way is typing the category into the article manually.
- 12:13:29: The cheese lord of nirn: Ahh, ok
- 12:13:36: RenzXVI: like [[Category:Skyrim:Hearthfire[[]]]] for example.
- 12:13:45: RenzXVI: You could manually type that.
- 12:13:45: The cheese lord of nirn: Ok
- 12:14:03: RenzXVI: using the box on the right is easier.
- 12:14:08: The cheese lord of nirn: Where would I put that. In the main info box?
- 12:14:17: The cheese lord of nirn: I'm main ally on phone when I do mine
- 12:14:24: RenzXVI: No, if you type manually, it should be at the very very end.
- 12:14:31: RenzXVI: Literally the last line.
- 12:14:36: The cheese lord of nirn: Ok
- 12:15:08: RenzXVI: A category is seen on this edit http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Sorrow?diff=2502999&oldid=2387506
- 12:15:52: The cheese lord of nirn: Ok
- 13:11:51: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: oops I left this on xD
- 13:20:09: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i have that too sometimes.
- 13:47:18: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: I went to a party :3
- 13:48:18: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: nice
- 13:48:21: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: hi crus
- 13:48:25: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: I got home an hour ago and made lunch :3
- 13:48:29: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: ello o/ :3
- 13:48:48: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: what kind of party? dancing and stuff?
- 13:48:58: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: no a birthday party at a church
- 13:49:03: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: the bitch turned 50
- 13:49:28: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: the cake was nice tho and I got to eat a pink flower cake decoration xD
- 13:49:37: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: and the candy was to die for
- 13:49:58: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: nice
- 13:50:03: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: yeh
- 13:50:07: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: who celebrates a party at church?
- 13:50:26: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: pentecostals...
- 13:50:56: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: christians are fucked up, at one point the bitch asked where this one dude is and another dude said that he had died and everyone laughed
- 13:51:05: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: wtf
- 13:51:11: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: ikr
- 13:54:50: ShawnCognitionCP: Pentacostals are a special sort of stupid.
- 13:55:16: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: idk what those are
- 13:55:35: ShawnCognitionCP: "God loves me personally and directly because our local priest threw my head into a bucket of water akin to a drowning-torture as an infant"
- 13:55:49: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: ah that
- 13:55:50: ShawnCognitionCP: Protestants.
- 13:56:08: ShawnCognitionCP: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentecostalism
- 13:56:40: ShawnCognitionCP: Baptism as a concept is very fucked up.
- 13:57:29: ShawnCognitionCP: You're throwing your infant into shock on purpose and making it severely uncomfortable/in pain by introducing water into the eyes, nose, ears, and mouth- it is too young to prepare or know what to do, thus attempts to continue breathing in many cases they're held slightly too long.
- 13:57:29: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i'd say believing that you get closer to god by eating his son's body is still more crazy
- 13:57:49: ShawnCognitionCP: At least devouring someone is a two party experience.
- 13:58:04: ShawnCognitionCP: Not torturing your baby with the only company being a bucket of water.
- 13:58:11: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: true
- 13:58:58: ShawnCognitionCP: And then you have Renz' country.
- 13:59:07: Qahnaarin1997: Hello.
- 13:59:08: ShawnCognitionCP: Where people /actually crucify themselves/ to become closer to God.
- 13:59:14: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: aye, they're a special kind of crazy
- 13:59:36: Qahnaarin1997: It weeds out inferior genes.
- 13:59:40: The Crusader of Truth: Just realized I forgot to wave when I joined but this is spicy o/
- 13:59:45: ShawnCognitionCP: It's not lethal tho
- 13:59:55: ShawnCognitionCP: And they have a very high reproduction rate
- 13:59:56: ShawnCognitionCP: So
- 13:59:57: ShawnCognitionCP: y'know
- 14:00:03: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: crucifiction was a punishment. just bc it happened to someone you liked doesn't make it good
- 14:00:23: The Crusader of Truth: The unstoppable tide of inferior genes
- 14:00:31: ShawnCognitionCP: Joan of Arc was a hero of her time, yet I don't see people that acknowledge that setting themselves aflame
- 14:00:33: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: true, christianity seems to be an evolutionary advantage there
- 14:00:37: Qahnaarin1997: So it's not a proper crucifixion?
- 14:00:50: ShawnCognitionCP: It's highly supervised and they aren't left for several days.
- 14:00:55: ShawnCognitionCP: Just twenty minutes or so.
- 14:01:07: ShawnCognitionCP: It's personal and depends on individual case how and when they do it.
- 14:01:26: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: if you do it, do it well and rid the world of a crazy person
- 14:01:29: The Crusader of Truth: Do they drive nails in their hands or tie them to the cross? I would assume tie but gotta ask in this world
- 14:01:31: ShawnCognitionCP: A lot of the time it's just roped wrists on the crucifix, but there are cases of actual nailings.
- 14:01:56: The Crusader of Truth: What the actual hell kind of drugs are they on
- 14:02:17: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: none. their leader doesn't like druggies
- 14:02:32: ShawnCognitionCP: Fundamentalism
- 14:02:56: RenzXVI: They do flagellations too before the nailing.
- 14:03:08: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: what are flagellations?
- 14:03:15: ShawnCognitionCP: Whippings.
- 14:03:17: RenzXVI: Whipping their backs
- 14:03:18: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: ah
- 14:03:20: The Crusader of Truth: Renz, can you tell me what drugs they have
- 14:03:23: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: they're crazy
- 14:03:32: RenzXVI: God.
- 14:03:43: ShawnCognitionCP: His nation's leader openly said they wouldn't charge you if you tortured an ex-drug addict to death, Crusader.
- 14:03:57: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: let's just pray that the FSM has mercy on their souls
- 14:04:04: The Crusader of Truth: They've got some intense god then
- 14:04:21: ShawnCognitionCP: It's Asia.
- 14:04:24: The Crusader of Truth: And Shawn that is uh
- 14:04:32: The Crusader of Truth: Profound
- 14:04:35: RenzXVI: It's cool though that our president had killed 3 terrorist leaders in our country in just a few months.
- 14:04:50: ShawnCognitionCP: Through
- 14:04:56: ShawnCognitionCP: Martial law
- 14:04:56: The Crusader of Truth: *drug addicts
- 14:04:57: ShawnCognitionCP: iirc
- 14:05:00: RenzXVI: So the rebels here are laying low.
- 14:05:14: ShawnCognitionCP: "rebels"
- 14:05:18: ShawnCognitionCP: Muslims*
- 14:05:48: RenzXVI: I was going to say terrorist but people might think they are outsiders so I said rebels. XD
- 14:06:52: The Crusader of Truth: Isn't the country like 70% muslim?
- 14:06:57: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: lol nope
- 14:07:00: The Crusader of Truth: I probably should just google that
- 14:07:06: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: the philippines has a christian majority
- 14:07:23: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: you're probably confusing it with indonesia
- 14:07:30: ShawnCognitionCP: He's likely thinking of Malaysia.
- 14:07:31: ShawnCognitionCP: ya
- 14:07:36: The Crusader of Truth: Indonesia ye
- 14:07:42: The Crusader of Truth: 86% Roman Catholic
- 14:08:09: ShawnCognitionCP: Indonesia is the Eastern Sultanate at this point.
- 14:08:43: ShawnCognitionCP: https://youtu.be/o_QbyP6q0AQ?t=105
- 14:08:46: KINMUNE: Wardruna - Odal
- 14:08:51: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: shame. it was such a beautiful country
- 14:09:19: ShawnCognitionCP: Malaysia banned premarital sex and transgenderism by law.
- 14:09:39: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: victimless crimes should never be penalized
- 14:09:49: ShawnCognitionCP: Highly debatable
- 14:09:59: ShawnCognitionCP: The issue is that premarital sex would even be considered a "crime" by law.
- 14:10:07: ShawnCognitionCP: Drug use is a victimless crime.
- 14:10:16: ShawnCognitionCP: It's very libertarian to say that it should not be acted against.
- 14:10:49: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: in case of drug use, the victim is society, as people suffer from their thieving, neglect and other stuff
- 14:11:29: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: the mild drugs should not be penalized though, just heavily taxed to compensate for the cost to society
- 14:12:02: ShawnCognitionCP: There's certainly money to be make in cannabis taxation; that much has been proven time and time again.
- 14:12:04: ShawnCognitionCP: I agree there.
- 14:12:51: ShawnCognitionCP: Catalan's attempt at independence tho
- 14:13:04: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: what does that have to do with this?
- 14:13:10: ShawnCognitionCP: Fun fact- the last time Catalan got independence, it lasted a total of eight hours.
- 14:13:16: ShawnCognitionCP: It doesn't, it's just hilarious.
- 14:13:50: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: the unrest it is causing is not funny
- 14:13:54: ShawnCognitionCP: All they did was get their entire parliament removed.
- 14:14:07: ShawnCognitionCP: And now we have such great ideas as "just peacefully resist".
- 14:15:24: ShawnCognitionCP: Secret votes, democracy that ignored public opinion polls and statistics, somehow didn't know Spain would just say no and the world would support it- Catalan's leadership was beyond stupid.
- 14:15:35: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: aye
- 14:15:55: ShawnCognitionCP: "All sporting events should become gender neutral ..... why have a women's 100 m race then a men's 100 m race ?"
- 14:16:04: ShawnCognitionCP: I'm 6 and what is physiology
- 14:16:13: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: to even think that a referendum that was only recognised by 1 side would mean anything
- 14:16:59: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: to be fair, i see just as much reason to watch women's sports as i do to watch men's sports: none whatsoever
- 14:17:06: ShawnCognitionCP: Did you ever notice that any time liberals say "gender neutral" they actually mean imposing opposite gender norms?
- 14:17:22: ShawnCognitionCP: "Gender neutrally dressed" apparently just means a boy in a dress or a girl in jeans.
- 14:17:36: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: girls in jeans aren't weird though
- 14:17:45: ShawnCognitionCP: Actual jeans
- 14:17:54: ShawnCognitionCP: Not your b-rate jeans with two centimeter pockets
- 14:17:59: ShawnCognitionCP: Jeans with practical use
- 14:18:15: ShawnCognitionCP: Female pockets infuriate me
- 14:18:19: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: same
- 14:18:35: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: it's why i pretty much always wear mens pants
- 14:18:46: ShawnCognitionCP: I don't understand the prospect.
- 14:18:59: ShawnCognitionCP: It doesn't look better, it fails at what a pocket exists for.
- 14:19:24: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: there are a lot of weird things when it comes to clothing
- 14:19:43: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: for example, i will never understand why people buy pants with holes in them
- 14:19:52: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: you don't buy those things, you throw them away
- 14:20:33: ShawnCognitionCP: "You're paying more for less fabric and shittier design work" - MGS Peacewalker
- 14:20:42: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: exactly
- 14:21:17: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: but i guess people can wear whatever they want
- 14:23:59: ShawnCognitionCP: Freedom of expression, yes.
- 14:24:52: ShawnCognitionCP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHJRjaPfbQk
- 14:24:53: KINMUNE: Slavic Space Program
- 14:30:36: The Crusader of Truth: Have to go, I'll probably be back around 7 o/
- 14:30:50: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: bye
- 18:59:55: KINMUNE: Hello there, TaikaJamppa!
- 19:00:01: TaikaJamppa: Hi
- 19:50:07: Nekyn Alb: Hey
- 20:23:58: KINMUNE: Hello there, Ralvz'jeshka Shakaraph!
- 21:33:11: KINMUNE: Hello there, The Augster at NK!
- 21:33:23: RenzXVI: hi
- 21:35:57: The Augster at NK: hi
- 21:41:41: The Augster at NK: bye
- 21:43:02: Nekyn Alb: Hello
- 22:00:19: Jr seriel: Hello
- 22:20:14: KINMUNE: Hello there, Sage McKaw!
- 22:20:20: Sage McKaw: heyooo
- 23:31:13: KINMUNE: Hello there, AIOS-Y!
- 23:58:12: Jr seriel: The Cavs just can't get off to good starts
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