• 00:00:15: Atvelonis: I'm probably going to have to ban this user if they keep being so disrespectful but man I'm getting a kick out of it
  • 00:00:24: Nekyn Alb: Let me handle it
  • 00:00:27: The Crusader of Truth: Stop *enjoying* it
  • 00:00:36: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: I need to marry a rich man and have his babies
  • 00:00:47: The Crusader of Truth: (im kidding thats great)
  • 00:00:53: Nekyn Alb: I'll dry their brain out with "boring facts"
  • 00:01:08: Nekyn Alb: Hey that's my plan too Fin
  • 00:01:24: The Crusader of Truth: Come marry me then Nekyn
  • 00:01:35: Nekyn Alb: You're a donkey farmer
  • 00:01:43: Atvelonis: lool
  • 00:01:55: The Crusader of Truth: no u
  • 00:01:59: Nekyn Alb: <3
  • 00:02:07: Atvelonis: Nekyn, marry me instead. I have NY and much bigger NY debt
  • 00:02:11: The Crusader of Truth: sike get that gay mess outta here bye
  • 00:02:34: Atvelonis: and now I've reminded myself of my debt
  • 00:02:40: Nekyn Alb: hawt
  • 00:02:47: Nekyn Alb: debt is just upside down money
  • 00:03:04: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: Nekyn do all Germans have big sausage or did I get lucky?
  • 00:03:29: Nekyn Alb: Bruzzler von Wiesenhof!
  • 00:04:01: Nekyn Alb: I mean, what does it look like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1RjYLonlsw
  • 00:04:03: KINMUNE: WIESENHOF Bruzzzler und Atze Schröder: Lang, Lang!
  • 00:05:35: Nekyn Alb: I hope you all watch that video to the end, I don't get paid otherwise
  • 00:06:10: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: Hmm that doesn't look very big
  • 00:07:01: Nekyn Alb: With that kinda hair you need a pretty big thing
  • 00:08:31: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: well, it's 2am, so i guess i'm heading off to bed
  • 00:08:37: Atvelonis: goodnight
  • 00:10:20: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: https://www.snellman.fi/sites/default/files/styles/half_width_breakpoints_theme_v3_small_1x/public/tuotekuvat/lenkki-knife-fork.png?itok=zixOj1kQ&timestamp=1461302867
  • 00:10:31: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: This is a Finnish sausage
  • 00:11:28: Nekyn Alb: I guess we're more into thiccness
  • 00:11:29: Nekyn Alb: https://www.welt.de/img/reise/mobile101664915/3632504067-ci102l-w1024/brotzeit-DW-Bayern-Tegernsee-jpg.jpg
  • 00:12:12: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: Ours is thiccer
  • 00:13:34: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: You can't even fit a Finnish sausage on a plate, it's so big
  • 00:14:05: Nekyn Alb: Long ain't always better
  • 00:14:12: Nekyn Alb: Regardless of what Atze says
  • 00:14:39: Nekyn Alb: We gonna make this a dick measuring contest about dick metaphors
  • 00:14:59: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: xD
  • 00:15:20: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: Indeed what matters is how you use it
  • 00:15:30: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: Personally I prefer a soup
  • 00:15:42: Nekyn Alb: ew
  • 00:15:48: Nekyn Alb: Grilling or nothing
  • 00:16:09: Nekyn Alb: or cold as dinner on bread
  • 00:16:33: Nekyn Alb: wait did you mean sausages
  • 00:18:05: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: I don't like black so I usually geill them
  • 00:18:17: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: Grill then in the oven
  • 00:18:49: KINMUNE: Hello there, Leonidas-Nerevar!
  • 00:19:25: Atvelonis: o/
  • 00:19:49: Leonidas-Nerevar: Hello there/
  • 00:19:51: Leonidas-Nerevar: .
  • 00:20:24: Atvelonis: general kenobi
  • 00:20:38: Leonidas-Nerevar: Oh I don't think so.
  • 00:21:21: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: Ello o/ :3
  • 00:21:27: Atvelonis: New patroller app: https://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_Wiki:Patrollers#Rozty
  • 00:21:32: Atvelonis: finally
  • 00:21:56: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: yey
  • 00:25:24: Leonidas-Nerevar: So, the moot is the first Saturday of the month?
  • 00:26:01: KINMUNE: Hello there, Starkiller131!
  • 00:26:02: Atvelonis: Yes
  • 00:26:03: Atvelonis: Hi star
  • 00:26:17: Starkiller131: Dang it, I forgot about the moot xD
  • 00:26:18: Atvelonis: @Leonidas: you just missed August's moot, it ended about an hour ago
  • 00:26:33: Starkiller131: Rozty applied?
  • 00:26:38: Atvelonis: Yes
  • 00:26:38: Starkiller131: Noice
  • 00:26:46: Leonidas-Nerevar: Oh. Well, better late than never.
  • 00:26:56: Atvelonis: The next moot is September 1st I believe
  • 00:26:58: Atvelonis: 4pm edt
  • 00:27:02: Starkiller131: Atvel.
  • 00:27:10: Atvelonis: Yes?
  • 00:27:15: Nekyn Alb: I should apply for /d mod so I can see all the deleted drama (kappa)
  • 00:27:24: Starkiller131: You're corrupt.
  • 00:27:45: Atvelonis: this is true
  • 00:28:03: Atvelonis: just the other day I made a pact with Wikia to ban all users on the wiki because they are a threat to my supremacy
  • 00:28:13: Atvelonis: except for KINMUNE she's chill
  • 00:28:19: Leonidas-Nerevar: Anything important happen that will eventually change the course of the entire wiki and cause the univers to be forever altered?
  • 00:28:29: Nekyn Alb: AkulakhanBot is a dick tho
  • 00:28:35: Atvelonis: Hmm nothing too significant. It was mostly formatting changes
  • 00:28:50: Atvelonis: Typically the really big decisions are made in Consensus Track threads anyway and last weeks
  • 00:29:19: Nekyn Alb: Did anything ever come out of the OOG-Unofficial sources one?
  • 00:29:33: Atvelonis: Yes we're switching to UL but I haven't gotten around to doing it yet
  • 00:29:44: Nekyn Alb: Nice
  • 00:29:55: Atvelonis: Right now I'm trudging through /d and recategorizing old threads
  • 00:30:00: Atvelonis: Since we have new boards now
  • 00:30:19: Atvelonis: The problem is that there are about 3300 pages (20 posts per page) on Discussions. I am on page 300
  • 00:30:26: Nekyn Alb: Well that sounds annoying
  • 00:30:54: Atvelonis: It's extremely tedious
  • 00:30:57: Nekyn Alb: Wait for the search feature and look for the keywords :p
  • 00:31:11: Atvelonis: lol yeah when Wikia adds it in like 3 years
  • 00:31:42: Nekyn Alb: Didn't they want to add something nice in the next moonths?
  • 00:31:58: Atvelonis: Well they're not the best with schedules
  • 00:32:04: Starkiller131: Like an updated Mediawiki?
  • 00:32:15: Atvelonis: Android FANDOM app update is coming soonish apparently
  • 00:32:16: Nekyn Alb: ah, I think it was https
  • 00:32:21: Nekyn Alb: and that, yee
  • 00:32:21: Atvelonis: Oh yes that
  • 00:32:26: Atvelonis: @Star: I wish
  • 00:32:28: Starkiller131: XD
  • 00:32:37: Atvelonis: @Nekyn: no idea when exactly they're doing that but soon
  • 00:32:50: Atvelonis: It will probably help SEO a bit since Google wants people to go on safe sites
  • 00:33:02: Nekyn Alb: Soon™
  • 00:33:07: Starkiller131: ^
  • 00:33:08: Starkiller131: xD
  • 00:33:22: Starkiller131: Soon as in 6 months from now
  • 00:33:41: Starkiller131: I will be administrator by then.
  • 00:33:46: Atvelonis: I'm sure
  • 00:33:59: Atvelonis: Re updates: they have some more stuff too
  • 00:34:00: Atvelonis: Hold on
  • 00:34:01: Starkiller131: Well obviously xd
  • 00:34:01: Nekyn Alb: and I will be bureaurat
  • 00:34:03: Starkiller131: ^
  • 00:34:10: Atvelonis: https://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Agent_c/State_of_the_wiki_-_Wikia_and_the_future
  • 00:34:35: Atvelonis: I am happy about some of this, angry about some of it, and extremely scared about one part of it
  • 00:34:44: Atvelonis: "This is one of our biggest longer-term areas of focus, and therefore the one with the least defined feature roadmap right now. The key idea here is that we are aiming to make content creation as effective and efficient as possible for the most amount of people, including existing editors. We have been experimenting with and studying lightweight contribution options for some time now in order to increase the ease of wiki contribution without compromising the high quality of wiki contributions."
  • 00:34:47: Atvelonis: This is the part that scares me
  • 00:35:11: Atvelonis: This sounds like more VE nonsense, but it's so vaguely worded I can't help but wonder if they have some insidious plans
  • 00:35:41: Nekyn Alb: Tampering with source editor would just be retarded
  • 00:35:44: Starkiller131: Just don't get rid of source editor xD
  • 00:35:47: Starkiller131: ^
  • 00:36:09: Starkiller131: I'd leave if they messed that up
  • 00:36:13: Atvelonis: If they announce that they want to mess with the Source Editor, we're revolting
  • 00:36:14: Nekyn Alb: They need the two users on every wiki who fix new user crap
  • 00:36:21: Atvelonis: A constant barrage of emails. Literally hundreds
  • 00:36:25: Starkiller131: ^
  • 00:36:26: Atvelonis: Organized email spam
  • 00:36:31: Atvelonis: I'll get the press in on it too
  • 00:36:34: Atvelonis: Hi
  • 00:36:51: Atvelonis: Wikia backed down on the Fallout Wiki after the video thing got news attention
  • 00:36:56: Nekyn Alb: While we're at it, add videos and ads to that spam
  • 00:37:00: Atvelonis: This would be 100x bigger, because every single poweruser on this site uses Source to edit
  • 00:37:04: CatholicPrincess15: What did I miss?
  • 00:37:12: Atvelonis: The moot is done now - the summary will be out tomorrow ish
  • 00:37:13: Starkiller131: Did they take the videos down atvel?
  • 00:37:20: Atvelonis: On the FO wiki, I think so
  • 00:37:22: CatholicPrincess15: Goodnight!
  • 00:37:23: Starkiller131: lol
  • 00:37:25: Atvelonis: But only temporarily apparently
  • 00:37:26: CatholicPrincess15: ")
  • 00:37:29: CatholicPrincess15: :)
  • 00:37:30: Atvelonis: Goodnight o/
  • 00:37:33: Starkiller131: Oh... so they're back.
  • 00:37:47: CatholicPrincess15: They?
  • 00:38:01: Nekyn Alb: Videos on the FO wiki
  • 00:38:11: CatholicPrincess15: Oh, okay. Have a nice day!
  • 00:38:17: Atvelonis: You too
  • 00:38:18: Nekyn Alb: o/
  • 00:38:35: Starkiller131: Wikia was better was when I joined.
  • 00:39:10: Atvelonis: They made fewer stupid decisions
  • 00:39:31: Nekyn Alb: The big updates are often just obviously aimed at revenue
  • 00:40:10: Atvelonis: I normally wouldn't criticize them for wanting to make money as fast as possible (I would just silently judge them), they're a for-profit company after all
  • 00:40:19: Atvelonis: But these features are often really bad for us
  • 00:40:30: Atvelonis: Discussions, for example, was pushed out way too early
  • 00:40:34: Nekyn Alb: Yeap
  • 00:41:21: Nekyn Alb: and fuckin Monaco and Oasis
  • 00:41:30: Nekyn Alb: Monobook is superior
  • 00:41:35: Atvelonis: Monobook is a very pretty skin
  • 00:41:58: Atvelonis: I used Oasis because most users have their accounts set to Oasis. But I liked Monobook a lot
  • 00:42:13: Atvelonis: They *could* have saved it, too, if they wanted. They just didn't
  • 00:42:30: Atvelonis: That's them testing the waters of how much they can piss off powerusers without the site collapsing
  • 00:42:37: Nekyn Alb: Wouldn't have changed that much because no wiki was optimized for Monobook
  • 00:43:07: Atvelonis: I think the Star Wars wiki was
  • 00:43:10: Atvelonis: And a few others
  • 00:43:22: Atvelonis: Uncyclopedia had it as the default, for instance
  • 00:43:29: Nekyn Alb: There's just so much useless space now, all for advertisements
  • 00:43:31: Nekyn Alb: Yee
  • 00:43:40: Nekyn Alb: Didn't Uncyclopedia get fucked over tho?
  • 00:43:51: Nekyn Alb: They weren't originally hosted by wikia iirc
  • 00:43:58: Atvelonis: I think they were independent. I don't remember
  • 00:44:12: Atvelonis: But forcing them to use Oasis defeats the purpose of the wiki in the first place
  • 00:44:17: Atvelonis: It's a parody of Wikipedia
  • 00:44:50: Nekyn Alb: I looked into the history of the skins and found a ton of criticism on there. Originally they kept their skin for a while, then it was gone
  • 00:45:07: Nekyn Alb: WoW, Uncyclopedia and Memory Alpha I think
  • 00:45:34: Atvelonis: WoW had Monobook as the default??
  • 00:45:39: Atvelonis: Or just recommended?
  • 00:46:53: Nekyn Alb: I think they did
  • 00:47:06: Nekyn Alb: After their exodus they do iirc
  • 00:47:12: Nekyn Alb: has been some months since I researched
  • 00:47:18: Nekyn Alb: >not the wikia one
  • 00:47:26: Nekyn Alb: they have to use oasis
  • 00:47:30: Atvelonis: Ah
  • 00:47:57: Atvelonis: One of the WoW admins (Raylan13) is Wikia Staff so it wouldn't really make sense for them to be resisting so much
  • 00:48:39: Nekyn Alb: The German Memory Alpha wiki banned /d posts and deletes every single one, except for their statement about how they dislike it
  • 00:48:49: Nekyn Alb: It was years ago
  • 00:49:04: Atvelonis: hahaha
  • 00:49:18: Nekyn Alb: they got 31.000 pages so it's pretty important
  • 00:50:21: Atvelonis: Wow, Wikia assigned a dmod for them
  • 00:50:24: Nekyn Alb: The thing is, Discussions aren't as actively bad as the skins or videos, but they draw all the attention
  • 00:50:35: Nekyn Alb: Yeah
  • 00:50:48: Nekyn Alb: They are overruling or ignoring him, no?
  • 00:50:55: Atvelonis: They kicked him out
  • 00:51:02: Nekyn Alb: kek
  • 00:51:06: Atvelonis: Very rude of Wikia
  • 00:51:12: Atvelonis: Overriding community consensus like that
  • 00:51:19: Atvelonis: I wouldn't stand for it either if they appointed a staff member
  • 00:51:52: Nekyn Alb: Even forcing /d onto them. I had to ask for /d
  • 00:51:59: Atvelonis: Seriously
  • 00:52:08: Atvelonis: Ridiculous of them
  • 00:52:14: Nekyn Alb: (our forums are absolutely dead)
  • 00:52:36: Nekyn Alb: It's not like they got it later on
  • 00:53:01: Nekyn Alb: They are good at articulating their criticism, so they got that going for them
  • 01:16:58: Leonidas-Nerevar: Goodbye now.
  • 01:54:10: KINMUNE: Hello there, LoreleiTheGreen!
  • 04:11:18: KINMUNE: Hello there, Trashley1206!
  • 06:46:20: KINMUNE: Hello there, Krystula!
  • 12:42:33: KINMUNE: Hello there, SheogorathWasHere!
  • 12:44:25: KINMUNE: Hello there, The Beautiful Princess Ashley!
  • 13:20:30: KINMUNE: Hello there, Nekyn Alb!
  • 16:44:14: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: hi nekyn
  • 16:50:17: Nekyn Alb: Hey
  • 17:09:05: KINMUNE: Hello there, High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia!
  • 17:10:25: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: ello
  • 17:26:09: Nekyn Alb: Hey Fin
  • 18:03:58: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: sup :3
  • 20:09:55: KINMUNE: Hello there, Wilkeys!
  • 20:10:04: Wilkeys: hello there kinmune
  • 20:11:23: Wilkeys: can i ask something ?i cant find the way how to lose the witch in quest of night to remember with lows levels
  • 20:12:26: Wilkeys: so quite here today
  • 20:12:49: Nekyn Alb: Sometimes we just be like that
  • 20:13:23: Nekyn Alb: I don't understand the question
  • 20:13:42: Nekyn Alb: You're not finding her or can't beat her?
  • 20:13:59: Nekyn Alb: https://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Moira
  • 20:16:27: Wilkeys: i mean i take the quest night to remember earlier when my levels is lows,it's kinda hard
  • 20:17:14: Nekyn Alb: So killing her?
  • 20:17:22: Nekyn Alb: Try sneak attacks with bow and arrow
  • 20:17:32: Nekyn Alb: Get some potions to boost your stats
  • 20:19:09: Wilkeys: its easy to kill moira , the hard is when i try to sneak around to get in to morvunskar
  • 20:19:28: Wilkeys: my magic its too low ,the damaged its to big for levels 27
  • 20:19:56: Wilkeys: what kind potions?
  • 20:20:30: Wilkeys: i mean levels 13
  • 20:21:09: Nekyn Alb: ah
  • 20:21:22: Nekyn Alb: Well, potions to increase your weapon damage
  • 20:21:38: Nekyn Alb: You could try to run through it and ignore the enemies
  • 20:21:45: Nekyn Alb: Do you have a follower?
  • 20:22:15: Wilkeys: theres too many guard outside ,is there any secret door ?
  • 20:22:24: Wilkeys: yes,i do
  • 20:23:05: Wilkeys: i try soul trap magic to increase my conjuration and easy to get daendra but its not too effect for magic
  • 20:23:25: Wilkeys: my weapon is too bad
  • 20:24:24: Nekyn Alb: You can always come back later when you're stronger
  • 20:24:52: Wilkeys: daedra* sorry typo
  • 20:25:20: Wilkeys: i just curious
  • 20:27:26: Wilkeys: i just started again skyrim on my ps4
  • 20:27:29: KINMUNE: Hello there, EbonheartAssasin!
  • 20:27:54: EbonheartAssasin: What do we use this chat for other than moots?
  • 20:29:52: Wilkeys: just one moots
  • 20:32:42: Wilkeys: btw if i take the wedding ring is way i can complete to find the staff ?
  • 20:33:14: Nekyn Alb: Huh?
  • 20:34:08: Wilkeys: ysolda quest
  • 20:43:03: KINMUNE: Hello there, Amulet of Kings!
  • 22:02:36: KINMUNE: Hello there, Zoder!
  • 23:05:41: KINMUNE: Hello there, CatholicPrincess15!
  • 23:09:36: KINMUNE: Hello there, RenzXVI!
  • 23:10:06: RenzXVI: Lolwhat. Catholic Princess? That seems quite specific.
  • 23:21:42: Nekyn Alb: Obviously the Pope
  • 23:32:49: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: catholic princesses exist. the entire royal family of spain is catholic i think
  • 23:34:36: Nekyn Alb: Aren't most royal families catholic
  • 23:35:34: RenzXVI: Yeah, it's actually quite common, which is why the name is pretty specific.
  • 23:37:30: RenzXVI: Like humans who wear clothes.
  • 23:37:54: Nekyn Alb: [[User:HumanWithClothes]]
  • 23:39:10: RenzXVI: lol what'
  • 23:40:10: RenzXVI: Hey! It doesn't exist.
  • 23:42:19: CatholicPrincess15: Talking about me?
  • 23:42:45: RenzXVI: Yeah, your name seems specific. I was just wondering if catholic princess aren't common.
  • 23:43:47: CatholicPrincess15: The royal families of Spain, Belgium, Losotho, Liechtenstein are Catholic.
  • 23:44:02: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: nekyn, i'm not sure they are. northern europe tends to overdose on monarchies, and they're all protestant
  • 23:44:25: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: the monaco royal family isn't?
  • 23:44:45: CatholicPrincess15: When Portugal and France were monarchies, they were also Catholic. Many groups like what Ashley said have their own national church (i.e. the Church of England, the Church of Sweden).
  • 23:45:52: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: aye, protestants tend to form lots of tiny groups to make everything more confusing
  • 23:48:56: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i don't get it. they all believe basically the same stuff, so why the infighting?
  • 23:50:49: CatholicPrincess15: What do you mean by "infighting"? Making national churches?
  • 23:52:12: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: sects within protestantism have a habit of seeing themselves as superior to all the other sects
  • 23:52:51: CatholicPrincess15: Really? That's interesting.
  • 23:53:46: RenzXVI: If you split out from something, shouldn't that be your thinking? If you didn't split off to become better then why bother?
  • 23:54:56: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: from stories my mom tells, there was a lot of bad blood in my granddad's family when he left the sect he was raised in
  • 23:55:42: RenzXVI: Did they call him inSect because of leaving? XD
  • 23:56:13: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: wouldn't surprise me
  • 23:57:03: CatholicPrincess15: In my opinion, the church that is being split from is better than the new church because Christianity is all about Jesus, and He started one church. Breaking away from it doesn't seem . . . wise to me.
  • 23:57:26: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: it's all the same to me
  • 23:57:56: RenzXVI: Why not? Making your own pyramid scam is a good idea.
  • 23:58:12: RenzXVI: Churches get the most money doing nothing.
  • 23:58:22: RenzXVI: Then all members recruit for you voluntarily.
  • 23:58:25: Nekyn Alb: The Bible didn't end with Jesus (kappa)
  • 23:58:43: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: btw the protestants broke off bc the catholic church had become so corrupt they were literally selling people places in heaven
  • 23:59:07: CatholicPrincess15: Indulgences.
  • 23:59:39: Nekyn Alb: Yee, 2017 was Luther year
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