• 00:00:00: CatholicPrincess15: Yeah. It was really bad. But some awesome saints helped root out the corruption.
  • 00:00:08: RenzXVI: Oh, so if you want to form a pyramid scam, you have a to maintain a low level of corruption? XD
  • 00:00:28: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: but would they have done so had the corruption not been pointed out by protestants?
  • 00:01:19: CatholicPrincess15: Yeah. The saints convinced them to become pure, not the Protestants. Actually, the corrupted guys got worse because of the split.
  • 00:02:40: CatholicPrincess15: Are we all okay? This is really touchy and feelings can be hurt.
  • 00:02:46: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: sure
  • 00:03:21: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: you don't have to worry about my feelings, i'm not religious
  • 00:03:48: RenzXVI: I like touchy stuff.
  • 00:03:52: RenzXVI: Just kidding. :p
  • 00:04:31: CatholicPrincess15: Oh Bolli.
  • 00:06:32: CatholicPrincess15: Did you get that reference?
  • 00:06:42: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i'm not so convinced the catholic church would have cleansed itself if it didn't get competition
  • 00:08:27: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: the saints convinced them, sure, but the threat of losing followers to a much less corrupt version or christianity will have played a role in their change
  • 00:09:55: CatholicPrincess15: You mean less corrupt clergy?
  • 00:10:20: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: essentially, yes
  • 00:11:04: KINMUNE: Hello there, Emperor Jarjarkine!
  • 00:11:06: Nekyn Alb: Didn't completely work out, eh?
  • 00:11:07: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: hi
  • 00:11:07: Nekyn Alb: Hi
  • 00:11:17: CatholicPrincess15: Work out?
  • 00:11:36: Emperor Jarjarkine: yo
  • 00:12:37: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: haven't seen you in a while
  • 00:12:41: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: what's up?
  • 00:14:01: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: oh
  • 00:15:06: Nekyn Alb: Cleansing corruption from Catholicism
  • 00:16:01: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: idk, the current pope seems to be doing a good job
  • 00:18:42: RenzXVI: All the popes are doing a good job of being old.
  • 00:19:39: Nekyn Alb: Current pope is okay
  • 00:20:12: CatholicPrincess15: I never realized that my username would cause so much theological discussion.
  • 00:20:15: RenzXVI: Wasn't he the one making weird contradictory statements when he was new?
  • 00:22:35: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: idk, i think he said at one point that atheists can go to heaven if they are good people
  • 00:22:48: RenzXVI: Yeah, that too.
  • 00:23:05: RenzXVI: Like I said, he made a bunch of controversial claims when he was new, and sometimes took them back.
  • 00:23:08: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: so good, to know that we get to go to a place of which we don't believe it exists
  • 00:23:32: CatholicPrincess15: Pope Francis never said anything against Catholic teaching. The journalists just reported it sometimes in a twisted way.
  • 00:24:33: KINMUNE: Hello there, Ziana66!
  • 00:24:42: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: didn't he approve of a gay clergyman in poland or something?
  • 00:24:44: Ziana66: Hi peeps
  • 00:24:46: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: hi
  • 00:24:52: RenzXVI: The bible itself has contradictions. It's not really hard to hit the jackpot when you talk about it.
  • 00:24:57: Ziana66: Wha doing
  • 00:25:17: Ziana66: what r u doing
  • 00:25:48: Ziana66: Um
  • 00:25:48: RenzXVI: Chatting, playing games on my phone.
  • 00:25:54: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: having a theological discussion at 2AM
  • 00:26:06: Ziana66: Um. Ok?
  • 00:26:37: Ziana66: I'll just... watch over here... and... be quiet...
  • 00:27:08: Ziana66: ... bye...
  • 00:27:38: Nekyn Alb: The Bible says non-christians can go to heaven
  • 00:28:27: CatholicPrincess15: Can you give examples of contradictions?
  • 00:28:38: RenzXVI: If any priest claimed non-christians can't go to heaven then they are implying they can only go to heaven because they believe in it. Disproving themselves in the process.
  • 00:29:04: RenzXVI: Lol what? Really? I don't even know where to start. I could go for hours talking about what's wrong with the bible.
  • 00:29:20: CatholicPrincess15: Enlighten me.
  • 00:31:14: RenzXVI: Here's one meme I made for a group once. https://i.imgur.com/sc9JjwT.jpg
  • 00:31:40: RenzXVI: I'll go pee and get some energy drinks.
  • 00:33:55: Nekyn Alb: You can just google "bible inconsistencies" and get millions of results
  • 00:34:10: Nekyn Alb: ~25.700.000
  • 00:35:08: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: nekyn, don't turn the burden of proof around
  • 00:35:29: CatholicPrincess15: "Burden of proof"?
  • 00:35:52: RenzXVI: What's the fun in those? Let's talk about one topic at a time.
  • 00:36:04: Nekyn Alb: Isn't it your obligation to research what you are talking about?
  • 00:36:23: Nekyn Alb: I'd put that before burden of proof
  • 00:36:25: RenzXVI: Nekyn Alb, if religious people did that then there wouldn't be religious people.
  • 00:36:25: CatholicPrincess15: I know my religion.
  • 00:36:44: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: the person making the claim is the person who should prove it
  • 00:38:21: RenzXVI: So far, no one had ever explained to me why so many things go against the top commandment, thou shalt not kill.
  • 00:38:49: RenzXVI: If the top commandment itself is getting this bad of a reputation...
  • 00:39:56: CatholicPrincess15: That's not the top commandment.
  • 00:40:21: CatholicPrincess15: The top one is "Thou shalt not have any other gods before me" aka only worship God.
  • 00:40:30: RenzXVI: Oh ok, I get those two confused.
  • 00:40:44: KINMUNE: Hello there, TheBretonMage!
  • 00:41:07: RenzXVI: God is the original overly attached girlfriend.
  • 00:41:13: RenzXVI: With insecurity issues.
  • 00:41:27: RenzXVI: If he's immortal, maybe he's still in puberty.
  • 00:41:54: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i can't have other gods before him, but what about after him?
  • 00:42:10: CatholicPrincess15: "Aka only worship God"
  • 00:42:20: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: lol we're just kidding
  • 00:43:19: RenzXVI: So what happened to the thou shall kill/not kill?
  • 00:43:48: CatholicPrincess15: I'm trying to explain it.
  • 00:43:55: CatholicPrincess15: I'm thinking of how to word it.
  • 00:46:21: RenzXVI: Sometimes, I wish I was still in school just so I could continue asking my religion teachers to explain things. But there are too many things that need to be explained and the teachers themselves end up arguing with each other because they couldn't agree. :p
  • 00:47:08: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: lol
  • 00:47:37: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i never had religion in school
  • 00:47:42: CatholicPrincess15: Okay. I'm going to try to explain it.
  • 00:47:52: CatholicPrincess15: So . . . that was the Jewish law.
  • 00:47:59: CatholicPrincess15: Not the Christian law.
  • 00:48:25: RenzXVI: That just raises more questions... Don't both follow the same bible?
  • 00:48:39: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: all the quotes provided are from the old testament
  • 00:48:46: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: including the one at the bottom
  • 00:48:52: CatholicPrincess15: Jesus is the New Testament.
  • 00:49:09: CatholicPrincess15: In Christianity, He was the fulfillment of Judaism.
  • 00:49:16: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: btw jesus never said his new law would replace the old
  • 00:50:07: CatholicPrincess15: I remember reading it in the Bible. Let me look this up.
  • 00:50:55: RenzXVI: I am still confused. Are you saying one of them only follows the old testament or one only follows the new?
  • 00:52:02: CatholicPrincess15: "And he that sat on the throne, said: Behold, I make all things new. And he said to me: Write, for these words are most faithful and true." [Apocalypse (Revelation) 21:5]
  • 00:52:45: CatholicPrincess15: I'm saying that: 1) The Jews were the people of the Old Testament. 2) The New Testament has Jesus, and thus, the birth of Christianity in it
  • 00:53:29: CatholicPrincess15: Many Jews did not believe Jesus was the Messiah, so they still today only follow the Old Testament customs.
  • 00:54:26: RenzXVI: So do Christians follow the old testament?
  • 00:55:27: CatholicPrincess15: So . . . there's no kosher in Christianity.
  • 00:55:43: CatholicPrincess15: We can eat pork.
  • 00:55:56: CatholicPrincess15: Basically, Judaism is stricter than Christianity.
  • 00:57:10: RenzXVI: It's still fact that many more decades from now, everything in any of the old religions still remaining will be out-of-date, they will just be abandoned like Zeus.
  • 00:57:29: RenzXVI: Pigs might go extinct and we eat fat monkeys.
  • 00:57:30: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: but if christ's law replaced jewish law, why still follow the ten commands? they're from jewish law
  • 00:58:04: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: good thing christians don't eat kosher food anymore, ritual slaughter is barbaric
  • 00:58:11: RenzXVI: People just get worse in cherry picking the bible.
  • 00:58:17: RenzXVI: LGBT doesn't fit in it anymore.
  • 00:58:33: RenzXVI: Then these furries... Where do they even belong? Lol
  • 00:58:37: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: the bible takes a very clear stance on lgbt
  • 00:58:55: CatholicPrincess15: Cherry-picking the Bible?
  • 00:58:59: RenzXVI: Yeah, but I am saying it's not the people that will adapt to a book.
  • 00:59:10: CatholicPrincess15: ???
  • 00:59:34: RenzXVI: You can't only follow some parts of the bible then disregard or totally claim false the rest of it.
  • 00:59:49: CatholicPrincess15: Right.
  • 00:59:50: RenzXVI: What happens when more things go out of date?
  • 01:00:00: CatholicPrincess15: No more things will go out of date.
  • 01:00:15: CatholicPrincess15: The Old Testament, without Jesus, was all incomplete. The truth is incomplete.
  • 01:00:19: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: they definitely will. society's morals change over time
  • 01:00:32: CatholicPrincess15: I mean with the Bible and kosher.
  • 01:00:35: CatholicPrincess15: Not society.
  • 01:00:36: RenzXVI: It WILL go out of date. It's like using a 2017 calendar in 2018.
  • 01:00:48: RenzXVI: There's nothing new and never will be.
  • 01:00:53: RenzXVI: Hence, new religions.
  • 01:01:06: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: the bible's stance on LGBT is completely ignored by many christians now
  • 01:01:12: RenzXVI: ^
  • 01:01:25: RenzXVI: Exactly, people disregard things that don't apply anymore in society.
  • 01:01:37: CatholicPrincess15: But the doctrine remains the same.
  • 01:01:46: RenzXVI: What would happen when transhumanism starts?
  • 01:01:59: CatholicPrincess15: You mean the thing where people want to become a cat?
  • 01:02:10: CatholicPrincess15: Or a goat?
  • 01:02:11: RenzXVI: That's exactly the point, the doctrines are stranded on an island with no boat.
  • 01:02:12: CatholicPrincess15: Or a dog?
  • 01:02:24: RenzXVI: No. When people are cyborgs, essentially.
  • 01:02:43: RenzXVI: But yeah, it could include other animals.
  • 01:02:51: CatholicPrincess15: You can't change Catholic doctrine.
  • 01:02:55: RenzXVI: Genetic engineering is possible now, but at it's infancy.
  • 01:03:00: RenzXVI: I already said that.
  • 01:03:04: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: which is exactly why it has no value
  • 01:03:07: RenzXVI: Hence why it gets out of date with society.
  • 01:03:25: CatholicPrincess15: You mean unpopular?
  • 01:03:34: RenzXVI: It's like a 60s fashion guide for 2018 people.
  • 01:04:11: RenzXVI: It's very possible humans wouldn't be "human" in the future.
  • 01:04:24: RenzXVI: When we discover other life forms, what happens then? :p
  • 01:04:36: RenzXVI: We will get too many things the bible doesn't touch.
  • 01:04:53: RenzXVI: When we can grow babies in jars etc.
  • 01:04:55: CatholicPrincess15: They actually already have lengthy theological novels on extraterrestrial life.
  • 01:05:02: CatholicPrincess15: Lemme post links.
  • 01:05:21: RenzXVI: You mean new ones that scholars devised?
  • 01:05:28: RenzXVI: Why would that count if it wasn't in the bible?
  • 01:06:48: RenzXVI: It's easy to see how religion would die given enough time. In this day an age, no one can claim miracles anymore because the world is under surveillance all the time by social media.
  • 01:07:33: RenzXVI: All of the religious miracles conveniently happened when people were still very superstitious and cameras didn't exist.
  • 01:07:59: CatholicPrincess15: There are plenty of scientific miracles reported. There's a whole committee in the Vatican dedicated to that makes sure it was a miracle and not medicine.
  • 01:08:07: CatholicPrincess15: To this day.
  • 01:08:12: RenzXVI: Any of these new religions are mostly branches off of old ones.
  • 01:08:37: RenzXVI: If it's scientific then it isn't a miracle.
  • 01:09:38: CatholicPrincess15: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/20588641-would-you-baptize-an-extraterrestrial
  • 01:09:54: CatholicPrincess15: Exactly! So the committee makes sure it wasn't scientific.
  • 01:10:54: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: most of these "miracles" can be explained as being pure luck though
  • 01:10:57: RenzXVI: If it can't be proved by science then there's still no telling what the issue is, doesn't mean it was by God.
  • 01:12:40: RenzXVI: Oh, you linked a book.
  • 01:12:50: CatholicPrincess15: A theological book.
  • 01:13:00: RenzXVI: I am not going to finish reading a book to be able to reply to our current discussion. XD
  • 01:13:35: RenzXVI: Especially since I don't have the book.
  • 01:13:40: CatholicPrincess15: You don't have to . . . I was just showing that Catholicism isn't intimidated or will become outdated in the sci-fi cyborgs and stuff.
  • 01:14:07: CatholicPrincess15: Should we talk about lighter things?
  • 01:14:18: RenzXVI: But that still has that question I asked which hasn't been answered. Are things in that book based on what's in the bible? If it isn't then it's pointless.
  • 01:14:35: CatholicPrincess15: Yep.
  • 01:15:01: CatholicPrincess15: Pro-lifers use the Bible to justify their position that abortion is wrong with the Psalm "You knit me in my mother's womb".
  • 01:15:04: RenzXVI: Then that's just one of many things that could make the bible out of date.
  • 01:15:16: CatholicPrincess15: Oh?
  • 01:15:23: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: how so?
  • 01:15:35: CatholicPrincess15: I really wanna play Skyrim now. Can we please talk later?
  • 01:15:40: RenzXVI: Ok.
  • 01:15:42: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: sure
  • 01:15:44: CatholicPrincess15: :)
  • 01:15:47: RenzXVI: You don't really need to reply. XD
  • 01:15:59: CatholicPrincess15: LOL I don't wanna leave you hanging, though.
  • 01:16:09: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: but renz, how does that book make the bible out of date?
  • 01:16:16: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i don't get your reasoning
  • 01:16:32: Nekyn Alb: I'm reading the Hyperion Cantos atm and it's set in the far future. For some reason there are like a million catholics, 17 billion humans and a third of the main cast is still talking about christianity all the time
  • 01:16:44: RenzXVI: No, I meant the bible having something about ET. It's just one thing among many that could make it obsolete. They can't touch everything that's not even here yet.
  • 01:17:04: RenzXVI: The bible is ancient, they'll surely be out-of-date.
  • 01:17:16: RenzXVI: It's just a matter of when.
  • 01:17:53: RenzXVI: I've had arguments about abortion before. People can't grasp the one thing necessary to determine if the thing is alive or not. Sentience.
  • 01:18:05: RenzXVI: Everything is just a lump of cells unless it's sentient.
  • 01:18:26: Nekyn Alb: I'm a lump of cells
  • 01:18:27: RenzXVI: People grow stemcells and organs now, they're not necessarily a living being.
  • 01:19:15: Nekyn Alb: How can we even kill something if God doesn't want it to happen (kappa)
  • 01:19:35: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: god clearly doesn't give a fuck, otherwise he'd do something about it
  • 01:20:01: Nekyn Alb: /sends a pacifist 2000 years ago who gets crucified/
  • 01:20:04: Nekyn Alb: Welp
  • 01:20:16: Nekyn Alb: Job's done, I guess?
  • 01:20:17: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: that's somehow necessary for forgiving people
  • 01:20:29: Nekyn Alb: It's the greatest blood sacrifice of all time
  • 01:20:31: Nekyn Alb: Literally
  • 01:20:33: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: bc it totally isn't way easier to just say "i forgive you"
  • 01:20:52: Nekyn Alb: They slaughtered kids and lambs, then they killed God and now everything is good but isn't
  • 01:21:34: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: and a perfect god somehow made an imperfect world
  • 01:21:46: RenzXVI: My most favorite thing in the bible https://i.imgur.com/PgCJFch.jpg
  • 01:22:01: Nekyn Alb: He fucked up Paradise itself
  • 01:22:21: Nekyn Alb: Ha, I love that part
  • 01:22:32: Nekyn Alb: Everything with Samson is kinda great too
  • 01:22:39: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: anyway, this is all nonsense. the FSM is the only real god
  • 01:23:08: Nekyn Alb: Fairy of Sadistic Monarchs?
  • 01:23:18: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: flying spaghetti monster
  • 01:23:33: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: how dare you insult His Noodly Goodness in this way
  • 01:24:05: Nekyn Alb: Mary's Spaghetti
  • 01:24:35: RenzXVI: Should've posted this during my "out-of-date" topic. https://i.imgur.com/HKwiI89.jpg
  • 01:25:29: Nekyn Alb: oof
  • 01:25:56: Nekyn Alb: "God built that rock" (kappa)
  • 01:25:56: RenzXVI: ALthough it does seem cool to be a kung fu monk.
  • 01:26:03: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: nah, religious folk steal all the stuff intelligent folk make
  • 01:26:33: Nekyn Alb: There were and are tons of highly intelligent religious folks
  • 01:26:48: RenzXVI: It wasn't hard to believe in miracles back then because Jesus keeps turning people's water into wine.
  • 01:27:18: Nekyn Alb: Their discoveries somehow didn't make them think something's wrong, but they did great things
  • 01:27:31: Nekyn Alb: "I need to drive, goddammit!"
  • 01:31:32: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: true, cognitive dissonance will make them explain the wrong things away
  • 01:56:32: KINMUNE: Hello there, WolfStalker2213!
  • 01:56:40: WolfStalker2213: Hello
  • 01:56:53: WolfStalker2213: r u a bot
  • 01:57:22: WolfStalker2213: Is anyone here
  • 01:57:31: WolfStalker2213: is kimune a bot
  • 01:57:40: WolfStalker2213: the suspense is killing me
  • 01:58:11: RenzXVI: It says it's a bot.
  • 01:58:20: RenzXVI: KINMUNE, are you a bot?
  • 01:58:22: KINMUNE: No.
  • 01:58:31: RenzXVI: Oh ok.
  • 03:12:42: KINMUNE: Hello there, Sage McKaw!
  • 03:12:45: Sage McKaw: Hry
  • 03:12:52: Sage McKaw: /o
  • 03:12:58: Sage McKaw: O/
  • 03:13:06: Sage McKaw: Fuck I forget how to do it
  • 03:13:13: Sage McKaw: /o
  • 03:13:20: Sage McKaw: /0
  • 03:13:23: Sage McKaw: Fuck
  • 03:13:24: Sage McKaw: Lmqo
  • 03:13:25: Sage McKaw: Whatever
  • 03:13:31: Sage McKaw: Hey renz
  • 04:00:17: RenzXVI: I guess my chat froze.
  • 10:24:09: KINMUNE: Hello there, Sh8346!
  • 13:01:39: Nekyn Alb: o/
  • 13:12:48: High Goddess Venus-Afrodite-Finelia: ello o/ :3
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  • 21:08:33: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: forgot i opened this
  • 21:11:30: Nekyn Alb: Hey
  • 21:12:37: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: hi
  • 21:13:59: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: https://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Zenithar i just reworked this article bc it had no sources. can you maybe check if my grammar is all good?
  • 21:15:10: Nekyn Alb: Sure
  • 21:16:51: Nekyn Alb: The blue star is probably not canon anymore, all Aedra either got a planet or a moon
  • 21:16:59: Nekyn Alb: The Blue Star is now Mnemoli
  • 21:17:28: Nekyn Alb: Should I just edit if I see mistakes or do you want to fix it?
  • 21:18:33: Nekyn Alb: Psst, Ashley
  • 21:18:34: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i'd prefer to do it myself
  • 21:18:38: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: yeah?
  • 21:18:48: Nekyn Alb: Just wanted to ping you if you were away
  • 21:19:00: Nekyn Alb: "however he can influence in his own way"
  • 21:19:08: Nekyn Alb: *influence it in
  • 21:19:24: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: that was already there. i'll edit ti though
  • 21:19:27: Nekyn Alb: a dot after the fourth source
  • 21:19:39: Nekyn Alb: "priests.[4]."
  • 21:20:09: Nekyn Alb: and nobility[1],
  • 21:20:26: Nekyn Alb: punctuation should go before the reference
  • 21:21:09: Nekyn Alb: "A common phrase spoken by his worshipers, despite his mysterious origins, Zenithar is the god 'that will always win'."
  • 21:21:32: Nekyn Alb: I'd scrap the middle because it doesn't contradict the rest
  • 21:21:38: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: true
  • 21:22:07: Nekyn Alb: and then "worshipers is, that Zenithar"
  • 21:22:43: Nekyn Alb: apparently one p is correct (thinking)
  • 21:22:47: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: it is?
  • 21:23:03: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i didn't check the parts that were already there for grammar tbh
  • 21:23:24: Nekyn Alb: My autocorrect doesn't mark it
  • 21:23:35: Nekyn Alb: I'd write it with two p, like it is in VoF
  • 21:23:41: Nekyn Alb: "Kynareth. [5]" remove space
  • 21:24:09: Nekyn Alb: and there are two linebreaks over "Verse"
  • 21:24:44: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: idk what the verse is anyway. i might have to remove it if there's no source
  • 21:24:54: Nekyn Alb: That's all
  • 21:25:00: Nekyn Alb: Lemme see if I can find a source
  • 21:25:42: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: what's a linebreak?
  • 21:26:21: Nekyn Alb: https://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Pocket_Guide_to_the_Empire,_Third_Edition:_Foreword
  • 21:26:23: Nekyn Alb: there
  • 21:26:33: Nekyn Alb: A linebreak is when you do this
  • 21:26:42: Nekyn Alb: Two look like this
  • 21:26:51: Nekyn Alb: technically three, I guess
  • 21:27:03: Nekyn Alb: Empty line
  • 21:28:49: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i don't see the verse there
  • 21:30:45: Nekyn Alb: Oh
  • 21:31:25: Nekyn Alb: http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Pocket_Guide_to_the_Empire,_3rd_Edition/Foreword on UESP it's there
  • 21:33:05: Nekyn Alb: https://www.imperial-library.info/content/pocket-guide-empire-and-its-environs-third-edition and here
  • 21:33:21: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: weird that our wiki doesn't have it then
  • 21:36:10: Nekyn Alb: Probably just overlooked
  • 21:36:47: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i'll just leave the verse without a source for now
  • 21:40:35: Nekyn Alb: You could add the missing parts to the PGE :p
  • 21:45:25: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: i don't know why it's left off, but there's probably a reason. i don't think i'll tamper with that
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