12:27:01: Nekyn Alb: What if the courier is an acolyte of Jyggalag
12:28:18: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: that's nonsense. jyggalag is the god of logic. an acolyte of him wouldn't say a letter is for your hands only, and then say he's told to hand out the museum pamphlets to everyone
14:35:01: Atvelonis: I thought it was a car exploding or something, it was really close
14:35:13: RenzXVI: Oh, I knew what thunder was, Just wasn't sure what the thunderclap difference was. :p
14:35:39: RenzXVI: Thunderstorms are possibly the prettiest thing I've ever seen.
14:38:06: RenzXVI: Funny thing is, there's almost a dozen people living in our house but my sister's family went to Japan for a vacation just this morning. So tomorrow, it's just gonna be 4 of us cleaning this mess...
14:44:26: RenzXVI: So it comes fast and goes fast.
14:45:26: Atvelonis: I'm fortunate enough not to have ever dealt with flooding in my own home before - I live near the top of a hill and NY isn't really prone to flooding anyway.
14:45:44: Atvelonis: I feel like if there were a huge flood it would happen in the middle of the night and I would be asleep, not caring because no one ever pays attention to the flash flood warnings here
14:45:48: Atvelonis: And then all my stuff would get destroyed
14:46:26: RenzXVI: We live in the worst place in our neghborhood, it's a downward slope beside a creek lol. 6 houses away and there's no flood.
14:46:49: RenzXVI: Brb gonna bring down the fridge.
16:01:41: Atvelonis: It depends on the area really
16:02:26: Atvelonis: A lot of conservative tea party folks (very anti-gov't/anti-tax) will vote against anyone who wants to raise taxes, even if that would mean preventing something like major floods
16:03:27: Atvelonis: This is a big problem in the South in particular, which has traditionally been the most conservative part of the country. They get caught up in partisanship instead of looking at the issues
16:06:54: Atvelonis: Almost every chronic political issue we have pretty much boils down to the two-party system
16:08:00: Atvelonis: It's pretty much impossible to get rid of, too, because neither party wants to lose power
16:10:01: Atvelonis: I've noticed that the dems are slightly better about this sort of thing. For example, Connecticut (pretty blue state) recently made a law stating that their state's electoral votes would go to the presidential candidate who got the highest national vote percentage, rather than the most electoral votes, even if Connecticut voted for the other person. This is essentially the state's way to support a more direct form of democracy than the electoral college
16:11:02: Atvelonis: e.g. if Trump somehow won Connecticut but lost the popular vote, Connecticut's electors would cast their electoral votes for the other guy because nationally Trump lost. That takes power away from the person the state voted for, but it overall a more fair system
16:12:13: Atvelonis: Apparently 12 states have done it
16:13:05: Atvelonis: California, Connecticut, DC (not a state technically), Hawaii, Illinois, Massachusetts, Maryland, New Jersey, New York, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington
16:13:09: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: though i'm still not sure whether it really hepls. all votes going to the victor isn't good, they should be divided between the parties based on how many votes each got
16:13:58: Atvelonis: I agree, but the "winner-takes-all" system is enshrined in the constitution. To amend it, I think it needs 2/3 acceptance in the House and Senate, and 3/4 of states must approve
16:14:33: Atvelonis: And that's unlikely to happen. So this is as much as they can do in the current system
16:15:05: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: the winner-takes-all system is what creates a two-party system. you cannot get rid of one without getting rid of the other
16:16:49: Atvelonis: I honestly don't know if the US will ever change the process
16:17:06: Atvelonis: There's too much resistance from the people in power, even if most citizens want a multi-party system
16:17:38: Atvelonis: It would take some kind of incredible judicial action from the Supreme Court (impossible anyway as the Constitution is, by its very nature, constitutional), or huge protests in the streets
16:17:45: The Beautiful Princess Ashley: it's just too weird that a country with this kind of system tries to profile itself as the defender of democracy
16:18:35: Atvelonis: That irritates me too. Americans have no understanding of how a functional democracy works/should work. They think that the system the US uses is the best simply because we are en economically powerful country
16:18:50: Atvelonis: There's this sense of hyper-nationalism that you don't see anywhere else in the world other than like, North Korea
16:24:14: Atvelonis: Europe has moved past the nationalism because Europeans understand the effects it has. But America hasn't been invaded in 200 years and has no concept of how it leads to bad things because they have never been at the receiving end of it
16:25:37: Atvelonis: I think it's fine to hold love for your country, to be patriotic. But the US just takes it so far and no one really seems to mind
16:52:41: Atvelonis: In Europe most place names are historical or literally mean "place where we had dinner" or "big mountain" or something. In the US they don't even have meaning (like they're just named after the first person who got there), or no one knows what any of the names mean because they're either 1) British, and extremely boring or 2) Dutch, which may as well be gibberish to Americans or 3) Native American, whose languages are not really spoken
16:58:16: Nekyn Alb: There was no reason to build cities like Europe did anymore
16:58:48: Nekyn Alb: medieval cities were a maze because that's easier to defend against invaders
16:59:21: Atvelonis: Well yes. I hate driving in Boston because the roads are so disorganized and random. Navigating Manhattan is much simpler and less annoying. But it becomes boring when literally every single town is on a grid layout and every single house is exactly the same
16:59:22: Nekyn Alb: then the Romans came and built four streets right to the center
17:00:33: Atvelonis: In old/wealthy suburbs like Westchester the houses are all unique since they were made at different times by different people. But in the artificial/planned cities out west, every house uses the same design. Suburban hell
17:00:52: Atvelonis: I don't understand how people live in it. I wouldn't be able to deal with that much uniformity everywhere I went
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