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Alma J Wetzker

  • I live in Minneapolis, Minnesota
  • My occupation is Business Owner, Engineer, Programmer, Husband, Dad, Other tasks as assigned...
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  • Bio Business owner, Engineer, Computer geek, Happy dad, Occasional gamer. Moments of down time are nice.
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Welcome, Alma J Wetzker!

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Hello Alma J Wetzker, welcome to the Elder Scrolls Wiki! We're building a collaborative source of information for The Elder Scrolls, and we need your help!

We saw you making some changes to our articles and thank you for it. We hope you choose to further this project, and we hope to see you around in the future. If you choose to stay, here are some links to help you out:



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--Atvelonis (talk) 06:39, September 5, 2016 (UTC)

Edits Edit

Great work with the ESO pages! I also saw the edit summary you left on Dro'dara Plantation Wayshrine and thought I'd explain how that type of link works. The "Main article" link is actually a template, so in this case you would have to do this to edit it. It can only support one link, and this particular one doesn't require any changes, but if you need to edit such templates in the future, this would be how. Let me know if you have any questions and I'll do my best to answer them. Have fun editing! —Atvelonis (talk) 21:29, September 6, 2016 (UTC)

The Torug's Pact page looks great, nice work! I made a couple of very small formatting changes, but it looks nice all-around. —Atvelonis (talk) 05:00, September 7, 2016 (UTC)
I'm not making new pages; rather, I'm placing the images on existing articles. We have pages for most books in ESO right now; you can view an alphabetical list of them here. However if you do have to make a book page, there is a useful set of links at the top of the page when you are creating an article, organized by game. If you click on the link that says "Book" in the "Online" row, then it will auto-create the basic source code of the page. I find this to be pretty efficient for making new book pages, rather than copy+pasting articles. —Atvelonis (talk) 00:06, September 8, 2016 (UTC)
The dialog is truncated side-to-side on my mac using chrome, I can't get access to the buttons to do things that way.  I can, however, read code, any code.  I am comfortable with source in the text edit mode.  That is how I am tweaking things to match your edits to my additions, the gui tends to add spaces and cruft that you go back and delete.
Alma J Wetzker (talk) 02:30, September 8, 2016 (UTC)
Ah, so using Source should be a piece of cake for you; that's good to hear. It's fine if you can't access the buttons I showed, you can do it your way and simply copy+paste the source code from another article and adapt the information.
To answer your question about Kurlash's Orders, edit at whatever pace you like. By "space changes" I assume you mean the ones I added in the infobox. The rule of thumb is to place the = one space after the longest parameter, and also place one space on the right side (for example: |collection = ) and line up the other equals signs with that. You can start doing this whenever you feel comfortable with it; there's no pressure to do so immediately. —Atvelonis (talk) 02:52, September 8, 2016 (UTC)
My preference would be to adopt the editing habit that conforms to standard practice up front.  I prefer making minimal changes, but I can adapt.  My concern is having you take your creative energy and time to cleanup edits as I make them.  I think you have better things to do.  I appreciate seeing what you change, and how I can do better, but I really would like to not be that kind of bother to your time.  (Too much time as a manager I suppose...)  I can be really anal about getting some types of details "Just Right (tm)", there is lots of money in that.  Alma J Wetzker (talk) 07:00, September 8, 2016 (UTC)
That's very considerate of you, I appreciate it. I don't really mind doing a little extra maintenance, especially since you're still new to editing the wiki, but it would definitely be good for you to get a hang of this type of thing eventually. Again, work at whatever pace you want, and I can answer questions if you don't understand something. —Atvelonis (talk) 01:42, September 9, 2016 (UTC)

NPC images Edit

I always forget to mention this early on, but we have fairly stringent requirements for NPC images from the recent games. Like all images, they should be in the PNG format. However, NPC pictures in particular have to be cropped to 600x1000 pixels and must be a full-body image (example), mainly for formatting and standardization reasons. This means that you can't take a screenshot when you're in the dialogue screen; it has to be taken during regular gameplay. —Atvelonis (talk) 01:42, September 9, 2016 (UTC)

Noted. I think the issue for me is going to be image size. Gimp works fine, but I am playing on a mac, and I don't have anything fancy for images. I will play around with it and see what I can do. Alma J Wetzker (talk) 04:37, September 10, 2016 (UTC)
Nice to see you uploading again - wanted to quickly mention that images should be taken during the day for the most part (just easier to see the contents of them that way). And ideally, if it's an NPC picture, they shouldn't be blinking or anything, although that's not majorly important. Good job all-around though! —Atvelonis (talk) 21:09, September 27, 2016 (UTC)

Re:Edit

The way I corrected the template is how we typically set them up, but if there was a change to how we format infoboxes I was not informed. I would suggest not adding spaces at the beginning of each line in the infobox template for now. However, You may want to bring this up with Atvelonis if he has corrected the infoboxes to the format you used earlier. Aside from that, thank you for your contributions. The Cat Master (talk) 21:02, October 7, 2016 (UTC)

Looking back, I am sorry if I came off as a bit of a jerk.  I guess I shouldn't edit during the day.  My goal is that the senior editors don't have to come back and make donkey edits to everything I do.  Life is just too short to have to constantly correct someone like that.  I am trying to come up to speed as fast as I can, but I still need to earn a living.  My preference when dealing with a new codebase, is to only edit the minimum possible, and adopt the style of the extant code.  That was still triggering format edits.  This confused me because it seemed contradictory.  Granted, I am easily confused, but I am usually good with code, I have to be.  For now, I will continue making minimal edits and hope to learn more as time passes.  I am sorry if I rubbed you the wrong way, I do appreciate correction early and often as I am learning the style and tricks here.  Alma J Wetzker (talk) 03:01, October 8, 2016 (UTC)
The Cat Master is actually correct here. I may have given you an outdated policy, or more likely I just explained it poorly. Here's a visual explanation of what an infobox should look like:
{{OnlineLocations
|image        = 
|map          = 
|province     = 
|region       = 
|area         = 
|city         = 
|island       = 
|type         = 
|level        = 
|sublocations = 
|main         = 
|quests       = 
|characters   = 
|enemies      = 
}}
Hopefully that should prevent future confusion! —Atvelonis (talk) 22:34, October 8, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Quest LevelEdit

I have not played ESO in quite a while, and not at all since the One Tamriel update, so I don't know about the wonky levels. I noticed however that UESP recently removed levels from the infoboxes on many of their ESO quest and character pages. That may or may not be as a result of the level system in One Tamriel, or maybe it could be that they just have a weird way of doing things. TBH, I don't know how this wiki should handle the level issue right now, since I was just made aware of it from your message. There are other editors here that are still playing ESO (at least I assume), who may have more experience with the game, and may be better able to answer this question. Unfortunately, I don't know who I should direct you to, except maybe Atvelonis or Timeoin. I'm sorry I could not offer much more help. The Cat Master (talk) 17:35, November 22, 2016 (UTC)

I appreciate you letting me know about that. It sounds like we may need to no longer show character, quest, etc. levels ESO pages, since they now seem irrelevant. The Cat Master (talk) 17:21, November 23, 2016 (UTC)
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