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--EbonySkyrim (talk) 09:58, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

Regarding farmer controversyEdit

Ah, yes. I have met some of these farmers before but they were mostly Bosmer, Dunmer and Redguard. Thanks for clarifying. —Sky Above,Voice Within · Show thy Voice! 18:51, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

Skyrim Civil WarEdit

I think your knee-jerk defensiveness has blinded you to the point I was trying to get accross on the Civil War page. I undid your edit because it claimed Imperials are heading to Windhelm to join the Stormcloaks. This is false, the Creation Kit says they're Redguards. THAT was what I was doing, not "removing  relevant information about non-Nord citizens joining the Stormcloak uprising". In fact, I clearly state Redguards are heading to Windhelm. Next time, read what other people say before responding. 

Also, I've removed some of what you said as it's just flat-out false. Nowhere in the game do we see "numerous Non-Nord Stormcloaks". There are none at all. That Redguard is never seen again. DRAEVAN13 02:02, February 1, 2014 (UTC)

Your statement is a lie. You have systematically continued to remove the entire passage, not simply the part about the individuals being Imperials. This can be readily verified by any user examining the history of the Civil War page, and this includes TES Wiki administrators. I will continue to observe your edits on this article, as they amount to misinformation and are borderlining on vandalism. I'll correct these edits where necessary and contact TES Wiki administrators where appropriate.
I also refer you to the talk page of the Skyrim Civil War article, where I've listed further in-game information that will help correct your extensive list of misconceptions on this lore issue. Arshudar Al-Muhdarin (talk) 12:33, February 9, 2014 (UTC)

Non-Nord StormcloaksEdit

I have already discussed the situation with the Admins a few weeks ago, and they told me that I was right and that you were at fault: THERE ARE NO NON-NORD STORMCLOAKS. I've contatced them again and returned the Civil War page to a factual state. DRAEVAN13 14:33, February 9, 2014 (UTC)

Wow, you're such a hypocrite. You remove instances of Nords joining the Imperial Legion on the Civil War page, for which there is ample evidence to support, then whine about me removing your mis-information? Amazing. DRAEVAN13 14:36, February 9, 2014 (UTC)

Please seek the immediate attention of an experienced psychiatrist.
I have not resorted to your level of editing at any point in time. The information related to Nords joining the Imperial Legion is already available in the dedicated Imperial section of the article, and thus is duplicate content when also placed in the dedicated Stormcloak section. You, by contrast, actively censor the truth about non-Nords joining the Stormcloak rebellion from the article altogether; a truth that is supported directly by Bethesda's own in-game dialogue on several different occassions within the Skyrim gaming experience. Your futile struggle is with evidence that will never go away, and not with me.
If any adminstrators take issue with my edits, they are free to contact me directly and I will discuss the issue with them personally and seperately, in a dicussion that is free from your hysterics and manipulations. I no longer take your word for this, given your penchant for the distortion of the truth.
You seem to systematically accuse others of the very things you are most guilty of. I would say shame on you, but after several weeks of enduring mouth-frothing hate and incoherent screaming and rambling from your part over what are a handful of lines of text on a gaming Wiki, I can no longer shake the impression that I've literally dealt with a sociopath. Arshudar Al-Muhdarin (talk) 04:32, February 20, 2014 (UTC)
Have you not read the Talk Page on the Civil War Page? Tombraiser and Zippertrain, Admins and Moderators, have asked you to stop adding that info. You keep adding it. There are no non-Nord Stormcloaks, let alond "many". There is no evidence of Hammerfell or the Redguard race supporting Ulfric. One possible Redguard supporter does NOT mean the entire race supports him. I've reverted your mis-information yet again. Hopefully, you'll stop adding this.  DRAEVAN13 20:33, February 21, 2014 (UTC)
As both of you can't agree, especially you Arshudar, I have locked the Skyrim Civil War page for a week. I am not any good in this subject so I will talk to one of the other admins to see if this conflict can be solved once and for all. In the mean time, lean back and breath calmly and don't start to call out someone needs treatment, Arshudar. It will end in a block on yourself in the end. —EbonySkyrim Message! 20:40, February 21, 2014 (UTC)
Good. I reverted his edit before it was locked. Now it'll stay in a factual state. DRAEVAN13 20:55, February 21, 2014 (UTC)

Civil WarEdit

I have responed on the Civil war talk page. Please keep it civil. Jimeee (talk) 12:14, February 26, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Request for some advice Edit

If you can talk to any of the Bureacrats on your wiki about having this user's tools removed that should probably be your first course of action. If that isn't possible, then this is certainly something you should be taking to Wikia support. Make sure to speak of this issue in a professional and non-hostile tone, to avoid any further arguments, and don't leave anything out. If what you described is what actually happened, this user is quite obviously misusing his tools and should have them revoked immediately. —Atvelonis (talk) 17:12, June 27, 2015 (UTC)

It doesn't matter how proficient he is at blaming the victim, his actions have been documented on the relevant "history" pages. A bureaucrat would indeed be able to dig up the truth, and take him to task. Thanks Atvelonis. Arshudar Al-Muhdarin (talk) 17:34, June 27, 2015 (UTC)

Re: internal format issue Edit

Saw your message to The Cat Master. I think he was a little frustrated because it's a ridiculous amount of extra code that was added (and as far as he knows you're using Source, not Classic—only Visual makes note of what editor you are using in diffs). He doesn't have as much time to edit as he used to, so spending time fixing that was probably not high on his list of things he wanted to do.

It's best to use Source Editor for pretty much everything. It offers more features and is far more stable, plus it doesn't add all that stuff. To switch to Source mode go to your Preferences, hit "Editing," and for the dropdown tab select "Source editor," and then save at the bottom.

In regards to the actual article, I've locked it for the time being because I don't want to see an edit war. I don't know enough about OOG lore to make a solid decision on it, but in general I like having OOG references on articles when possible. Makes them a little more well-rounded. I'll unlock the article when an agreement on it is reached. —Atvelonis (talk) 02:05, December 17, 2015 (UTC)

Edit frequency Edit

Hi Arshudar, thank you for the edits recently. Please try to be mindful that making multiple edits to the same page makes things harder for patrollers who have to check all edits in Special:RecentChanges. You should try to keep your revisions to as few edits as possible, instead of making 10+ to the same page at once. Prior to publishing, you should be able to use the desktop preview button in the editor to see how it will look afterwards. Thanks. —Atvelonis (talk) 16:44, August 30, 2018 (UTC)

The curse of a perfectionist. I'm not satisfied with it until it's "just right". I'll try cutting the edits down to a bare minimum. Arshudar Al-Muhdarin (talk) 17:24, August 30, 2018 (UTC)
I get it, I often end up making a couple edits to the same article in quick succession. Barker's proof at work, I suppose. Thank you for being understanding. —Atvelonis (talk) 03:03, August 31, 2018 (UTC)
So your edits to the Alduin page today is the sort of thing I was referring to in my previous message. You really shouldn't make more than 2–3 edits (at most) when doing major revisions to a page like that, because it becomes difficult to sift through each change. It's much easier if everything is all in one edit. If you want to draft in a sandbox, that would be preferable to making a lot of mainspace edits at once. Staff would still have to patrol those edits, but as far as proofreading/etc. is concerned, it's much easier to work with a single diff than with several. —Atvelonis (talk) 17:10, September 17, 2018 (UTC)
So much for "getting it". I'll make something clear too: When a person invests real time & effort into trying to make your Wikia more enticing for readers and all they get in return is constant belittlement over technicalities to the point of targetted harrassment, they'll call it a day and divert their enthusiasm to the UESP Skryim Wikia instead--where my editing style has never been an issue. To persistently call out productive, good-faith edits in this manner for not having been done in "quite the correct way" is unbelievable, and I won't contribute under conditions where I apparently must look over my shoulder with every keystroke. Enough is enough. Arshudar Al-Muhdarin (talk) 11:30, September 18, 2018 (UTC)
I'm unsure how you reached that conclusion. My messages have been straightforward and have not been directed at your person in any way. As an administrator, it's part of my job to review edits made to the wiki for accuracy, proper formatting, etc. It's also part of my job to help users engage in efficient editing practices—to improve their skills and make editing into a more streamlined process for the community as a whole. I would suggest reading this page when you get the chance.
Content-wise, your edits are perfectly fine—in this respect you're doing a really good job on the wiki, and I have never claimed otherwise. I realize that this issue may seem like a "technicality" to those who don't patrol RC, but making 20 edits to a page instead of 1 increases the amount of work we have to do to check that edit by 20 times. The UESP's patrollers may not have contacted you directly about this issue, but because they have the same edit review process as us, I can guarantee that they feel the same way about edit quantity. To quote the UESP's user welcome message:
"Also, the "show preview" button is a great way to view the changes you've made so far without actually saving the page (our patrollers really appreciate it!)."
I think it's also worth noting that we often have to patrol more edits than they do because of all the interlanguage links added to the Wikia, so the issue is somewhat exacerbated on our end. If you want to continue making small edits like this, please just make your changes in a personal sandbox and make the final mainspace change in one or two revisions. What you're doing here is most certainly improving the encyclopedia, but we're understaffed as it is and even making this small effort on your part makes a big difference for us. —Atvelonis (talk) 16:46, September 18, 2018 (UTC)

Re:Klein vraagjeEdit

Hey Arshudar,

Sorry voor het late antwoorden, ik ben niet enorm actief meer op Wikia. Wat ik gehoord heb is dat Wikia wat caching problemen heeft de laatste tijd. Dit heeft bijv. ook voor problemen met het updaten van uploads en het verversen van edits gezorgd. Ik weet vrij zeker dat het daarmee te maken heeft. Ik neem aan dat dit zsm wordt opgelost, of dat dit zelfs al opgelost is. Hoop dat je hier wat mee kunt!—CarloV3r (talk) 14:25, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

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