Welcome![edit source]

Welcome to Obliviowiki Avfanatic! Thank you for your contributions so far, keep them coming! If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to ask here or on my talk page. \*\ Hellhound43 19:45, 30 January 2007 (CST)

Thanks. -Avfanatic

Thanks for all the work! 02:21, 1 February 2007 (CST)

Wow, you just don't quit do you? :). That's ok, keep it up! I knew the categories were pretty terrible and unorganized, but am far too busy to do it myself. Thanks for all the help! \*\ Hellhound43 00:41, 3 February 2007 (CST)
I'm glad I can help. I hope it makes the information herein more accesible. -Avfanatic

Game mechanics[edit source]

Awesome job with the categorizing; we certainly need some organization around there. I noticed that you categorized some articles as "Category:Game Concepts". I wasn't exactly sure what the difference was between that and some of the articles in "Category:Game Info" (except the actual TES games). I was thinking that some of those articles would fit better under Category:Game Mechanics, such as Health, Fatigue, Skill, Attribute, Encumbrance, Level, Persuasion, etc. Journal, Hotkey, and some others might fit there too. What do you think? --theSpectator talk 22:31, 6 February 2007 (CST)

Thank you. "Category:Game Concepts" is meant to encompass all in-game mechanics and ideas and "Category: Game Info" any else about the game. I had intended for Concepts to include what you describe (except possibly Hotkey which could be Info because it is arguably past the fourth wall) but if you feel a separation is needed I can support that but, what would Concepts be then? --Avfanatic 23:15, 6 February 2007 (CST)
I mentioned "game mechanics" only because that's what that section on the Main Page is called, with some of those articles. "Mechanics" sounds more like the inner workings/values/moving parts of the game (e.g. Level). However, "Concepts" would work just as well, as the term sounds broader and can certainly encompass more than just how the game works. Either term works with me, though I think we should change the term on the main page to fit the decision.
Mechanics or Concepts, either is fine with me.
EDIT: Game Mechanics could be the idea of Concepts and Info combined, much like the main page combines game ideas with technical info. --Avfanatic
On a different topic, I was looking through the category and I think major skill and minor skill should be moved and redirect to skill, as there really isn't much else to add to those. What do you think? --theSpectator talk 01:01, 8 February 2007 (CST)
Merging them makes sense. I would then add the Skills article to "Category:Game Concepts". --Avfanatic 15:56, 8 February 2007 (CST)

Rivers[edit source]

Hey Avfanatic, thanks for doing the rivers. I've been trying to put the rivers in all the region articles, and it's really great to have less red links. I'd love to be taking pictures, but I'm on a 360 and so cannot contribute those. But it's good to have the articles begun!

You're welcome. :) --Avfanatic

Are you having problem playing your game on Xbox 360?[edit source]

I'm having a lot of problems with my game due to glitches,Freezing and Bugs. I'm on my third time through the game and some of the main quest gave me the hardest time like the Great Gate quest that I was so lost and slow.--ShakenMike 14:41, 27 February 2007 (CST)

I have minor problems. It gives me a "disc unreadable" message when the XBOX gets too hot. I put a fan blowing across the back to disperese the heat generated as quickly as possible. That solved almost all of my problems. --Avfanatic 21:50, 28 February 2007 (CST)

I just saw an item that cools down my XBox 360 system will that work.--ShakenMike 00:35, 1 March 2007 (CST)

Categories[edit source]

Great job with the organizing and categories avfanatic. Just a little note, categories are generally pluralized (e.g. "Category:Helm" --> "Category:Helms"), since they usually list multiple of those kinds of articles. Keep up the good work! --theSpectator talk 04:17, 18 March 2007 (CDT)

I try to keep it consistent but, I'm used to singular categories. A category implies many members, whereas each page is generally a singular member of that group (Martin Septim is an NPC not an NPCs, and an NPC category implies multiple entries as much as an NPCs category). Semantics I know but, at least you'll know why I continue to make some of the same mistakes.
Many of the weapon categories are singular if you want to change them. --Avfanatic 10:29, 18 March 2007 (CDT)

Before this comes up, is there supposed to be a standard for capitalization in category names? I saw you wanted to move Category:Fort ruins to Category:Fort Ruins, so I assumed there wasn't - should there be? And do we want to worry about the ones that are/n't capitalized after we pick the standard? --Avfanatic 11:51, 18 March 2007 (CDT)

You know, that's a good point because generally the capitalization policy is that if it's capitalized in the game, then we capitalize it here (at least for article names). However we don't have to capitalize every time the word "sword" is used and such. For some time "Ayleid Ruin" (or back when it was "Elven Ruin") wasn't capitalized, but eventually was changed. So keeping in line with that, as well as with Oblivion Gate and Daedric Shrine, I think we should also capitalize Fort Ruin (and adjust the category subsequently). Categories like Category:Enchanted Armor don't need to be capitalized since it's not really an in-game capitalization. I'm sure there are exceptions here and there, however, or articles that don't really follow the policy. I'm not sure how strict it should be. --theSpectator talk 17:10, 18 March 2007 (CDT)
Throwing my two cents in here, I've always expected links and such to be capitalized, since they are titles of pages. Same goes for headings, and I suppose that would also include categories. I don't think it really matters that much, but I do find it confusing and occasionally frustrating to have to search for the right link when it is / isn't capitalized when I expect it to be. \*\ Hellhound43 14:25, 19 March 2007 (CDT)

Plants-ingredient merge[edit source]

Awesome job with the plant-ingredient merge. I also like the small Category links next to the effects. Time for a new project? Lol ;-)--theSpectator talk 01:22, 20 March 2007 (CDT)

Thanks. I wanted to get it done before Shivering Isles and its 32 new ingredients come out. --Avfanatic 01:39, 20 March 2007 (CDT)

Cat name change[edit source]

Thanks for changing the name of the categories for Fort Ruins. It was way too late for me and I was tired ;-) --theSpectator talk 14:43, 24 March 2007 (CDT)

You're welcome. --Avfanatic 15:09, 24 March 2007 (CDT)

Ingredient infobox[edit source]

I saw that you mentioned that it would be easier to check the redirect page. For what purpose would we need to check the redirect page? --theSpectator talk 23:42, 24 March 2007 (CDT)

The ingredient redirect page has the categories for the ingredient, so that it lists in those categories correctly - the redirect isn't an empty page in this case. The link is small and most people won't notice it, and it saved me the hassle of putting the ingredient name in the article (as I did with Aloe Vera) to allow easy changes/corrections. Is it bad to have there? --Avfanatic 04:15, 25 March 2007 (CDT)
Naw, it's not bad.; I see your point since the redirect is categorized; no problem. --theSpectator talk 04:31, 25 March 2007 (CDT)

Shievering Isles ready, RIGHT NOW, for 360[edit source]

Maybe because so many people complained maybe it was a mistake, either way Shivering Isles can now be downladed for Xbox 360. Start the game, go to options, check for updates, and download. Yeah for us 360ers! --Avfanatic 20:44, 26 March 2007 (CDT) EDIT: Remember maintenance starts at 12:01am PST, if you don't download it before then you'll have to wait.

Tavern/Inn[edit source]

Nice work on the Taverns/Stables stuff, AV - looks good. andy 02:21, 14 April 2007 (CDT)

Thanks. --Avfanatic 11:54, 14 April 2007 (CDT)

Template Plant and Ingredient[edit source]

Heya Avfanatic, I think Infobox Ingredient should be moved to Template:Infobox Plant (or simply Template:Plant; just overwrite the old one that's there) since the former template specifically deals with plants and their ingredients. That way, Template:Infobox Ingredient can truly be an infobox for just ingredients that have no source (e.g. apple, beef). I did notice that you created Template:Source/Ingredient, which is good, as you stated, ingredients that come from non-plant sources. I know it's a lot of work to go to each plant page and rename the template, but I'd be willing to help. --theSpectator talk 00:44, 26 April 2007 (CDT)

I agree that Template:Plant is more appropriate but I can't commit to the work right now. --Avfanatic 01:26, 26 April 2007 (CDT)
I copied the template over to Template:Plant and now the articles need the words "Infobox Ingredient" in the template replaced with "Plant" --Avfanatic 01:31, 30 April 2007 (CDT)
Alright cool. First thing is that, I'll be able to change 'em all after this Tuesday since I have a rotation at the psych hospital tomorrow and then an exam on Tuesday.
Second thing, since we'll be editing those articles anyway, for the "Effects" section, do you think it'd be better to change how the word "Category" shows up? It already is small, which is good, but to better distinguish it from the rest of the effects, we could:
a) Have it in lower case: Category:Restore Fatigue|category
b) Shorten it to: Category:Restore Fatigue|Cat/ :Category:Restore Fatigue|cat
c) Have "Category"/"category" in parantheses: (:Category:Restore Fatigue|category) or (:Category:Restore Fatigue|Category)
[EDIT: Removed template. --theSpectator talk 00:11, 10 May 2007 (CDT)]
See the template examples on the right. Effect 1 is the current setup. I personally think option (c) is best, with "category" in lower case and in parentheses (Effect 3). If not, we can keep it as it originally is.. What do you think? --theSpectator talk 01:48, 30 April 2007 (CDT)
Effect 3, (category), is good. --Avfanatic 02:06, 30 April 2007 (CDT)
Okay done. I'll be deleting Template:Infobox Ingredient soon. --theSpectator talk 00:11, 10 May 2007 (CDT)

Drudger's Pint[edit source]

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Have a pint!
[[User:A bit overdue, I'd say, but we'd like to recognize you for your uncompromising categorization of many of the articles on this Wiki (something I would never have done with a smile ;-) ), and as such, theSpectator and I would humbly give our thanks for your hard work and dedication. Have a pint on me, and keep up the good work! \*\ Hellhound43 00:54, 1 June 2007 (CDT)|A bit overdue, I'd say, but we'd like to recognize you for your uncompromising categorization of many of the articles on this Wiki (something I would never have done with a smile ;-) ), and as such, theSpectator and I would humbly give our thanks for your hard work and dedication. Have a pint on me, and keep up the good work! \*\ Hellhound43 00:54, 1 June 2007 (CDT)]] has awarded you a Drudger's pint!
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Bacon[edit source]

I noticed you were the last person to edit the Bacon page. There is also a boar named Porkchop that assists you with one battle in the Arena, but I don't currently have any screenshots, so I can't write it. -Sec_1971 (talk) 16:20, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Sure you can :) I didn't add the screenshot it looks like User:Hellhound43 did. I just categorized the article. If you want to create the page, do so just note it's missing an image in the summary and perhaps add the Beast-stub template. --avfanatic (talk) 20:43, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
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