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I'm not actively editing on this wiki anymore and have moved on from it. You're welcome to leave me a message and I'll get back to you, but for wiki-specific help, I recommend contacting an active editor. Happy editing!

Alduin cannot die, just as I cannot- much in the same way Talos and previous Ysmirs never really died. We'll always be here, the chosen children of Akatosh. To instil change in the world too fast for our father, time, to do alone. ― Arudor Stormcloak, the Last Dragonborn

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 RE: Profile... :D[]

I'll let you know a little secret... I got the inspiration for my signature from you! ;-) Btw, I just noticed, you now have 666 edits. XD RenzXVI // Talk  // Chat //   15:31, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

Team Skyrim[]

Hey Bluesonic1, I was wondering if I could join Team Skyrim because I feel like I should help the wiki out, and Skyrim is the only TES game I know well. Please post a message on my talk page to say yes or no, I will not be upset if you choose no. Thank you for your time. MAXISAWESOME1213 (talk) 02:33, September 7, 2015 (UTC)


Hello, I am sorry for the late reply, my computer dosnt charge well, and the charger keeping it running started catching on fire, so getting on the wiki has been a pain.

I will try to get on during the moot if you still want/need advice, or you can email me at Cheatcodechamp@gmail.com if you feel that a better alternative.

I hope all is well, I should return to active wiki behavior as soon as I get the replacement part.Cheatcodechamp (talk) 05:21, September 19, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Using Pre Tags[]

It kind of embeds a template and the rules say no to most embedding so i go for a blanket no to any form of it, it also grabs attention by looking so diffrent which others may use for the wrong reasons. AzuraKnight (talk) 12:59, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

I said others may abuse it not you, when things like that are used in a thread debating something or giving opinions it grabs attention from other comments too much similar to using a lot of capital letters. I don't know a lot about actual wiki coding when i saw the little green puzzle piece i assumed was a template. AzuraKnight (talk) 14:50, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

Shadows Take Me[]

Hi there,

I saw your edit to the Mercer Frey article earlier. I'll make my justification for editing it again here so as to avoid confusion or an unnecessary string of edits! Mercer says "Shadows Take Me" because he knows his death is Nocturnal's revenge. That's what "Shadows Take Me" means. He doesn't say it "despite" the fact he betrayed the Nightingales, he says it because of it. Therefore there is no irony and it doesn't really belong in trivia. I will, however, wait for your response before I go ahead and remove it again.

Regards, Bronkiin (talk) 15:14, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the explaination on that! I will go ahead and edit it one last time, but along the lines of what you've just posted on my talk page. If I can get confused on it, I guess so can others! 
Regards, Bronkiin (talk) 10:20, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Cloud District Chatters[]

It's just a club type template I made for the current chat regulars, based on Nazeem's quotes, with the chatroom being Cloud District and the Chat users as Nazeem. :p
RenzXVI // Talk  // Chat //   19:25, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

Moot Times[]

Nooooooo! 6 am would mean that I'd Miss Doctor Who! :O TimeoinSay G'DayView my work 12:25, October 9, 2015 (UTC)


I would say merge the info all into the main Enchantment Modifiers (Skyrim) article, then redirect the other two to their section of the article. Its a simple course of action and won't require us to redirect everything.

In time we could look at moving the links to lead to the main article, but I would prefer we focus more effort into expanding articles then moving links. I will speak to Tim, and if he agree's. we may speak to Corey about having the bot move the links at a later date if need be.

-Cheatcodechamp (talk) 07:50, October 11, 2015 (UTC)

Log is up[]

Moot log is up. — Flightmare (talk) 10:59, October 18, 2015 (UTC)

re: Stuff[]

Thanks for the message. Not everyone was hating, but it was clear from a few posts (one of which Bronkiin quoted) that some users would rather spend their time chastising and insulting me and the things I post, rather than actually improving the wiki or even contributing appropriate: it is obvious which users do this (and they do it regularly). Those users are the reason I redacted all my posts in the thread and asked it to be closed, certain users were spending more time harassing and attacking the things I posted, instead of getting to the point.

I won't respond to the rest of your message, as I'm not in much mood to discuss this wiki right now: as you can see, I have been wrongfully accused and banned from chat for things I never did. --Sajuuk 12:00, October 20, 2015 (UTC)

People who post porn or illegal links in the chat are violating the TOU by default: things like this don't need to be restated (a simple link of "remember that the wikia tou applies in chat and we will ban users indefinitely if you violate them" is enough to cover those obvious points.
I don't want to sound rude, but I should point out that 90% of Wulfharth's contributions are not for improving the wiki. He rarely edits and most of his edits are just in forum posts that I have created, mostly just to criticise and troll (per the post that Bronkiin quoted and responded to, since Wulfharth's post in that instance was completely unnecessary) them. I have not actually seen the user actually contribute in a meaningful manner towards the content (such as forums, blogs or mainspace) and I have seen him almost never in the chat.
Users like this are trolls. They're not helping the discussion, just disrupting it (at least, in my opinion). I would have been fine with his post if he actually used chat, but he never does. However, he apparently used chat today just to troll and badmouth me and was apparently never warned by the only mod in chat: amusingly the mod in chat was the one who banned me for no reason (funny how the users who badmouth me in chat when I'm not there escape punishment, but then when I talk about a post I find amusing, I'm "overreacting" or "trolling". Double standards are great ;)).
My problem with this wiki is that, if this thread had been made by someone else -- such as Bronkiin -- and worded in the same way, nobody would care. But the minute I post such a thread, it's suddenly the end of the world and every minute detail possible is extracted and complained about in the thread. That's why I find users like Wulfharth incredibly irritating and annoying to deal with.
No doubt he will see this and have a little rant on this talkpage or complain to a sysop because he doesn't like being criticised either ;) --Sajuuk 12:44, October 20, 2015 (UTC)
That's adorable Sajuuk. Like you have never, ever, ever talked shit about people in chat. From what I hear and read, you talk shit about others the most - so don't cry when others do it about you. You show such SJW logic. Omg Critisism = Harassment!. I should call you Anita from now on. 
Here is a tip - you aint a special snowflake and i'll critisise your ideas bluntly and honsetly all I like if I see fault in them. And once again - my contributions to this wiki are not your concern. You don't get to decide who can and cannot speak up. (@Bluesonic, sorry for hijacking your talkpage, but he seems to delete any critisism that appears in his own.) Wulfharth (talk) 22:12, October 20, 2015 (UTC)
Check your wall over on Community Central. I think the notifications bell are delayed atm, so just posting this here to draw attention to it ;). --Sajuuk 11:33, October 21, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Template Spacing[]

Well, I told them to kill two birds with one stone and do something else at the same time like fixing formatting or links or whatever, so that way the infoboxes are neat and orderly and more concrete things are fixed (though I think they're only doing the formatting right now, I'll give them a reminder). If you've ever seen the big, cluttered infoboxes on for example Online locations articles you'll see the need for this. It's not a particularly high-priority task, but it's something that should definitely be done. People probably shouldn't exactly be going out of their way to add the spaces, but if they happen to be editing a page with a poorly-formatted infobox, it's something they should do in order to make future edits significantly easier for our editors. —Atvelonis (talk) 15:18, October 20, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Policy Cat[]

Thanks for letting me know, I've fixed it now. —Atvelonis (talk) 15:28, October 23, 2015 (UTC)

Alright, well I'm not sure which MediaWiki page I'd have to edit to change the Forum policy button? I looked in a bunch of the MediaWiki pages but didn't see anything. —Atvelonis (talk) 17:18, October 24, 2015 (UTC)
Ohhh, okay. Got confused there. It's fixed for real now though, thanks. —Atvelonis (talk) 20:02, October 24, 2015 (UTC)


Hey Blue, wanted to ask if you wanted to do an interview!

Madman97 (talk) 15:19, October 25, 2015 (UTC)

Don't worry, I can just leave you the questions here and you can respond to them on my talk page. For convenience, would you mind copy/pasting the question you're answering and then putting your answer below it when you put it on my talk page? It makes the whole thing go so much faster. And also, please try to extend your answer past a sentence with as much detail as possible. I can't do much without it. Answer in your own time. 

1) Normally I have a certain theme for each interview, and it usually has something to do with the user's position in the wikia, but since you list yourself as a Loremaster, I was wondering if I could discuss something that has been boggling my mind. Beforehand however, I would like to ask you some simpler questions first as a warm up. First things first, when did you start really getting into the lore while playing the games? Is it something you've always found interesting?

2) Do you have a favorite pantheon within all the Elder Scrolls religion? If so, who is your favorite god within them? What do you like about them?

3) What is your favorite Daedric Prince BESIDES Sheogorath? Why?

4) Onto my little theory and relating to the last two questions, I proposed in a couple of blogs that the Daedric Prince Peryite, strangely absent in almost all pantheons, is so much more than meets the eye. A loremaster yourself, what do you think? Do you think that there is something odd about the Prince based off what you know about him? 

5) I could go on and on about how I think Peryite is actually a pretty influential prince to the point where he was behind the Blight scheme of Dagoth Ur, but to keep it simple, I want to take a look at a question I ask everyone: Where did the Dwemer go? However, I would like to offer my own answer this time and you can respond however you see fit. I researched into Arniel Gaine's experiment with the warped gem, and have concluded that his experiment was a success based on the science of convection. 

Sit tight, there is a little reading to be done here.

(TL;DR version: I think the Dwemer were sent to places no one thought possible.)

During the quest in Skyrim, Arniel's Endeavor, you were tasked with obtaining a warped soul gem, one of Kagrenac's tools--Keening--and bring them to him. You had to bring the warped soul gem to three Dwemer Convectors found throughout Skyrim and put it in there for three seconds in order for the location to count. Afterwards, once everything was in place, Arnial heated the soul gem using the spell Arniel's Convection.

As Wikipedia puts it: "Convection is the concerted, collective movement of groups or aggregates of molecules within fluids (e.g., liquids, gases) and rheids, either through advection or through diffusion or as a combination of both of them."

If you complete the quest, we know what happens to poor Arniel, forever wandering around as a shade, and you are probably wondering what this has to do with the Heart of Lorkhan and Peryite. A Convector is basically a stove for liquids and gases and rheids, or non-molten solids (Like a giant heart perhaps). The warped soul gem is the substitute for the Heart of Lorkhan, and Keening is the trigger. Arniel was trying to recreate the circumstances of the Dwemer's disappearance by trying to tap into the Dwemer convected soul gem with Keening. While not exactly the same result, I think it essentially happened the same way.

The warped soul gem is by no means comparable to the power of Lorkhan's heart, and the factor of Arniel missing one of the tools used in harnessing its power--Sunder--might be irrelevant. I am sure Keening, if it's as powerful tool as it is often revered, can handle a soul gem. I think Arniel probably provided more answers in his experiment than maybe we realized. Not only can we now grasp the process of how the Dwemer disappeared, but where they are.

First and foremost, you need heat, and lots of it. It very well could be this that determines how far you are sent from Mundus as well as the power source you are heating. Arniel cooked a gem in a stove and set it on fire. He can be seen as a ghost wandering around the College of Winterhold and can be summoned, so he did not get very far, but he succeeded in transporting his body somewhere else, either that or destroying it, which may also be a clue to the Dwemer's current status. Perhaps they too lost their bodies. But their spirit was sent Beyond...The Heart of Lorkhan is inside a volcano, hooked up to a giant Dwemer robot that, though the Heart was supposed to power the Numidium, could very well serve as a large convector of sorts to increase the temperature within the Heart to at least 100 million Kelvin. Rheids are only formed in extreme conditions of pressure, pressure that is required to create fusion. With the Heart of Lorkhan being a nuclear reactor compared to a tiny soul gem, with a dash of magic on the side, it would provide infinitely more power than a small soul gem ever will, and thus had the ability to really send the Dwemer places they never would have even thought of reaching.

Well Loremaster, what do you think?

I think that will suffice for now. Thanks again.

  Madman97 (talk) 02:54, October 26, 2015 (UTC)

       Well, I believe I owe you an apology Blue, because when I first asked you to do this, you were not the first person I wanted to interview, thinking Dovahesbrom was a better target, but after reading through your scientifically sound and thoughtful responses, you sure showed me. I'm not going to make that mistake again. Apology over, now I get to thank you for such an excellent interview! The final product will be up and running here very soon! (And for sh*ts and giggles, in honor of our recent foray into the future (The day Doc went to 2015), you think we'll see some time traveling dragon breaks in the future of the games?)

       Madman97 (talk) 07:15, October 27, 2015 (UTC)


I would like to join the Team Skyrim.

To the anon who left this request- please make an account and follow the guidelines I've left above to leave me a message I can actually respond to :P
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Re: Guild Resignation[]

Aw, sorry to hear that Blue. I understand your position though, and real life comes first, so I don't blame you in any way. Garry's not very active anymore unfortunately and the other members are also too busy to be the guildmaster from what I can tell. I'll tell CCC to mention that the Skyrim Guild is looking for a new Guildmaster in the next update... I'll figure something out soon hopefully. Thanks for letting me know though, and good luck with whatever you're moving onto. —Atvelonis (talk) 17:53, November 9, 2015 (UTC)

Skyrim Guild update[]

Just as a reminder to all members, we've got quite a few ongoing projects in addition to many different tasks that could use your help, in particular expanding stubs (or removing the stub template if there's sufficient information). Also, users who aren't active in the guild after 2-3 months will need to be removed, just as a heads up. Anyways, enjoy the weekend and let me know if you have any questions or suggestions. --Shockstorm (talk) 23:28, November 14, 2015 (UTC)

Re:Regarding a User[]

Sure. I'm busy for the next few hours, but I'll be in chat after that. --Shockstorm (talk) 15:45, December 8, 2015 (UTC)

I'm on now. If you don't see me on chat in the next ~8hrs just leave me a message on my talk and I should see it and get on. --Shockstorm (talk) 21:17, December 8, 2015 (UTC)


Thank you for coming to me on this, Blue. I am doing well and I hope to be back from my hiatus soon. You bring up an interesting inquiry and you are right in saying it is in their nature to dominate. Parthuunax himself says he feels the temptation to take power every day and it must be supressed (like humans supress their more carnal desires to function within a society, hmm?). What happens when a human gives in to a sexual desire we all subconsciously feel and , God forbid, rapes someone? If it's in our nature to be sexual and violent, is that man evil? Most would say yes, me included, because their will can overcome desire if they work at it.So, comparing humans to dragons, if their more carnal desires can be supressed like ours, any who let theirs run free and kill regardless if it's their nature or not, can be considered evil. Hope this helps.

Madman97 (talk) 17:04, January 7, 2016 (UTC)

I think rape is a perfectly acceptable analogy to use, probably one of the best, as the whether or not some would say death or rape is worse is irrelevant to the fact that rape is a majority of the time having to do with an urge getting the best of someone, while murder is much more complicated than that. People don't typically kill to kill (though they're out there), but it's much more likely having to do with business in some degree. Rape is an urge to be suppressed. As to why dragons are treated as abominations while humans and others are doing the exact same thing? Poor storytelling, though if you want an in-game answer, the Blades are a single-minded group that hates Dragons. Groups like that tend to ignore logical flaws in their dogma. --Madman97 (talk) 02:43, January 8, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Forum Edits[]

Well, the reasoning behind those edits is that people like to use tags for spam and to emphasize their posts over regular posts etc., but seeing as <code> can't really be used to do that effectively I don't have an issue with it being used. I left Azura a message, so he should get back to me soon enough. —Atvelonis (talk) 14:51, January 29, 2016 (UTC)

Regarding AWB[]

Hello, Bluesonic1. You have new messages at The Crusader of Truth's talk page.
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Re: Windhelm[]

Sun's Death occurred almost 200 years after Hoag Merkiller's death, the reason why I said he is xenophobic is because he is clearly stated to be in Rislav the Righteous, and he never participated in the Skyrim Conquests as his reign takes place about 60 years after they ended. I don't believe there is any reference to Dunmer refugees arriving in Skyrim during Sun's Death.

Dovahsebrom (talk) 03:35, February 15, 2016 (UTC)

The article is incorrectly using the mythical accounts of the 36 Lessons as a basis for that claim. Not only was Hoag likely not even born at this time, but the events of Sermon 9 don't even refer to the Skyrim Conquests but rather the Chimer's overthrowing of Nordic rulership. "HOAG, the mudmouth" is likely just a demonization of Hoag Merkiller, who they perhaps found to be a particularly vicious king of the Nords. Given "the Empire's official xenophobia" is the reason you don't see Ayleids anymore (Alessian Order), I think that pretty well defined connotation of animosity towards Elves.
I'm not sure if you know this but there has been more the one eruption of Red Mountain. Sun's Death occurred in 1E 668, while the much more recent occurrence, the Red Year, happened in 4E 5 and is responsible for the Dunmer refugee problems.
Dovahsebrom (talk) 05:58, February 15, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Ulfric's Father[]

I found it in the official Game Guide. It is on page 877, and reads, "...[Ulfric] became Jarl of Windhelm after the death of his father Hoag in 183." I have all of Skyrim's dialogue exported from the Creation Kit sitting in a big .txt file on my computer and found the line from Scouts-Many-Marshes about Ulfric. It reads, "Did you know it was his decree that forbade the Argonians from living inside the city walls?"Atvelonis (talk) 17:33, February 15, 2016 (UTC)

Windhelm Argonians were Dunmer Slaves[]

While its a good explanation for why the Argonians are in Windhelm, I have yet to find any texts or dialogues that state this, which is a large red-flag given how much importance would likely be put on such a claim.

Is it possible that the information you speak of came from a mod of some sort? There are a lot of mods for Skyrim that add books without really marking them to say they aren't actually canon. I have honestly, on one occasion, fallen for the this before.

Dovahsebrom (talk) 15:29, February 17, 2016 (UTC)


Oh, crap, I wasn't trying to be rude, so sorry!!! I'm a bit grumpy this morning, I was just trying to explain. I guess I explained a BIT too much looking back on it ;(.

Yeah, no worries. I also usually kill them and ask questions never lol, it's just because I felt like talking to one at somepoint and recalled that from somewhere in my memory. Anyway, it's a good contribution, just a bit off :P.

Anyway, happy editing!

-Ned Tp- Contribs 13:59, March 22, 2016 (UTC)


Oh my god I'm so sorry :O!!!!!! I didn't realize. Now I know. It's yet another brainfart, compliments of Ned.

I had made a lot of changes on the Durnehviir page, and it was the second time that night that someone had conflicted my edit. I was really tired, I think, and I didn't even know that it was you who edited. I just c-and-p'd without thinking. I don't even know what your edit was.

I actually make my biggest mistakes late at night. I probably shouldn't edit then, because I've already cost myself a few rep points because I can't think at 1:00. It's nothing personal, as I didn't even know who it was. Now that I realize what my mistake is and what caused it, hopefully this won't happen again. - Ned Tp- Contribs 12:40, March 30, 2016 (UTC)

Ok no need to be a snot here, man. I'm trying to improve myself. I've got some problems, but who doesn't? Look, if I do it again, I give you my word that I won't edit once I can barely even pump even out one minor edit/2 minutes. Because that's when it happens. And if don't follow out on it, then you can take my dictionary and burn it *stupid pun*. But seriously, I don't want to improve, I will improve. Wouldn't have lasted this long if that weren't the case. - Ned Tp- Contribs 12:48, March 30, 2016 (UTC)


Hi Bluesonic1,

I just wanted to let you know that rather than using the {{Reflist}} template, we're now using the {{Refs}} template, which automatically adds a "References" header. Thanks!—CarloV3r (talk) 06:49, May 22, 2017 (UTC)

Well the information wasn't referenced. The translation of the world wall was referenced, you made the connection between the text and Hermaeus Mora worship yourself. The word "likely" indicates that you don't actually know whether it's true or not. I'll leave it for now and get back to you about it in a bit.—CarloV3r (talk) 07:51, May 22, 2017 (UTC)
If you want the trivia point to stay, you're going to have to make the connection to Hermaeus Mora clear on the article. It's really unclear in what the trivia points currently says. Hope you understand,—CarloV3r (talk) 06:32, May 23, 2017 (UTC)
I slightly re-worded it. Are you happy with how it looks?—CarloV3r (talk) 08:37, May 23, 2017 (UTC)
Great! Glad we got that sorted out.—CarloV3r (talk) 11:35, May 23, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Disambig[]

Oh, shoot. Looks like that should be renamed to Soul Tear (Dawnguard), and the original page (Soul Tear) should be a disambiguous page. If you'd like to adjust all links on articles that should link to the Dawnguard-specific article, go ahead. (Around 50 articles) If not, I'll do it. Thanks for pointing it out.—CarloV3r (talk) 09:22, July 24, 2017 (UTC)