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Patroller template[edit source]

Hey GramsJ! Some pretty cool news. Recently, we created a new user page template for patrollers of TESWiki! We need you to post it on your user page. Consider it a badge of honor and promise of commitment to the wiki! Here it is: {{Patroller}}. Thanks so much! And don't forget to look over our walkthrough for your new custodian abilities. Cheers and happy editing from your friendly neighbor admin dude. -—Deyvid Petteys (bother \ stalk) 00:11, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

Also, don't forget to vote for this months featured member! --—Deyvid Petteys (bother \ stalk) 00:15, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
Hey, GramsJ! Your Patroller template doesn't appear to be displaying correctly, as it's adding categories as if it's using the source code of the Patroller template. You just need to added the {{Patroller}} tag to your page. —TombRaiser SPEAK! 05:26, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

DwemerBot[edit source]

When you have a free moment, could you do me a favor and run Dwemer through the bot tasks at the bottom of Veetor's talk page. You can skip over the Category:Maintenance templates, if you think it's too delicate of an edit. Thanks a million. Time for me to turn into a pumpkin. Take care, Jan. :) --—Deyvid Petteys (bother \ stalk) 06:43, July 25, 2012 (UTC)

RE:Game titles in the lead[edit source]

As no policy or precedent yet exists on whether game titles should be included in an article's lead, I cannot say with certainty what should be done. It is, however, established style to include an "appearances" section at the bottom of an article. This helps readers know which game the object, person, thing etc. appears in. Parenthetical phrases attached to disambiguated pages also help: Conjuration (Skyrim) obviously has nothing to do with Conjuration in Morrowind. :P I would say, however, that something like Dragon Shouts should mention Skyrim in the lead, as the feature only appears in Skyrim. Consistency is the best, but in some instances, I would say that mentioning the game title detracts from the page. Mostly, this revolves around our style of writing pages as if they were historical documents. In other words, mentioning that such and such person appears in Shivering Isles makes the person seem less real and more of a game character, than we intend tone-wise. I would say, definitely add it on item, weapon, and armor articles since most of those are OOU (out-of-universe) articles. But, things such as character biographies should omit them and mentions to things like "quests". Does this make sense? If you feel strongly that the opposite is true, please voice your opinion. I'm rooting for what's best for the wiki. Which may or may not align with my convictions. :) --—Deyvid Petteys (bother \ stalk) 23:43, July 26, 2012 (UTC)

P.S. Almost time to archive your talk page, don't you think? :P --—Deyvid Petteys (bother \ stalk) 23:45, July 26, 2012 (UTC)

hi[edit source]

hey i bumped into your name in de history page and just wanna say hi and nice to meet you. Wesleyeye (talk) 06:24, July 29, 2012 (UTC)

RE:Handedness[edit source]

Would be best to clean up the article so that it reflects all games. Might be a good idea link off to more game-specific articles: Handedness (Oblivion), Handedness (Morrowind), One-Handed, and Two-Handed etc. --—Deyvid Petteys (bother \ stalk) 16:17, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

Superb. All that remains is disambiguating the links in each article, so they point to the correct page. Nothing that needs to be taken care of now, though. Keep up the good work. :D --—Deyvid Petteys (bother \ stalk) 21:56, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

Removing the image placeholders[edit source]

Hey Grams! Is it possible to have DwemerBot remove all instances of [[File:Placeholder|right|300px]] from Talk pages? Every time a Talk page is saved and contains this placeholder it automatically adds the Talk page to the "Pages with broken file links" category. This placeholder is really pointless to have in Talk pages anyways, so it would be nice to see this cleaned up from the pages that still have it. Thanks. —TombRaiser SPEAK! 21:11, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the update. That's kind of strange though, because everyday there is a new page or more in that "Pages with broken file links" category. —TombRaiser SPEAK! 23:20, August 2, 2012 (UTC)
Hey Grams, another update for ya! You mentioned that VeetorBot processed User talk pages. What I meant was that the bot should run the process on Talk pages, as in the Talk pages that belong to articles. This could be why the bot hasn't found anything to remove. —TombRaiser SPEAK! 04:26, August 3, 2012 (UTC)
Thanks Grams! Glad that it's taken care of now, and that it wasn't too many...well, not too many for a bot to handle. :) Thanks again for the swift action. —TombRaiser SPEAK! 19:07, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

Tense in new articles[edit source]

Hey there Grams,

I noticed you are creating a lot of new content for Oblivion spells, I just wanted to bring up the point of tense to you.

E.G. Summon Replete Shambles was a spell in The Elder Scrolls IV: Shivering Isles that allowed

Shouldn't it be is a spell, and that allows? The Game does still exist. I edited your first article but not the subsequent ones as it seems your adding a lot of content, thought I'd ask you first.

Cheers, Senjai (talk) 18:12, August 6, 2012 (UTC)

Hello Senjai. Thank you for asking. While a great many of our articles are written in the present tense, according to our Style and Formatting guidelines, the preferred style is past tense (see below).
Writing style and perspective
Articles in the mainspace should be written as if they were about historical events, real-people, or objects that existed on Earth.
I try to follow these guidelines whenever possible — at least until I'm told otherwise. :) GramsJ (talk) 22:56, August 6, 2012 (UTC)
You just know your stuff! Noted, thanks! Senjai (talk) 05:37, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

Bugs and voting[edit source]

Hello there, fellow TESWikian! A few things to discuss with you. First, I have recently made a proposition for the formatting of Bugs on articles. I would greatly appreciate your opinion and suggestions here: F:CT:Flagging bugs. Additionally, two new TESWikians are applying for staff positions. If you have not yet voted, please do at the rollbacker page and the News Team talk page. And give your opinions on Balgog and Senjai. Talos guide you, friend. :D --—Deyvid Petteys (bother \ stalk) 06:53, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Quests[edit source]

Hey there - I have unlocked the quests page for you.

Jimeee (talk) 22:34, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

RE:Morrowind: Items[edit source]

Hey there! Thanks for cleaning up the items. I already fixed all the Items categories a week or so ago, so those are fine, and don't need the Items category removed. As far as the Morrowind articles you mentioned go, those two are, specifically, Quest Items. No list of quest items exists yet for Morrowind. A Category:Morrowind: Quest Items currently exists. Fake Soul Gem (Item) and Dwarven Bone belong in that category. Both articles on those items call them a "quest item", so that's how I'm coming to that conclusion. --—Deyvid Petteys (bother \ stalk) 00:52, August 13, 2012 (UTC)

RE:Category update question[edit source]

This has been a huge issue since we started changing the categories. The wiki software should automatically "populate" the category once the template transcluding it is changed; Wikia does not do that. I believe, it's because of caching issues on their end. As we know, everything involving cache on Wikia is screwed up. So, the only way to populate those categories, unfortunately, is to edit them by hand. Good thing is: most of them need something changed on them, even if it's only a minor edit. The article will populate the category even if you change non of the wiki text and click "publish" from the edit window. I have a theory that bots might be able to do this somehow: simply enter the article and publish a "ghost edit", one where nothing at all is changed, so that the categories populate properly. Let me know if you think DwemerBot is capable of doing that. If not, we could always just add a space or a period at the very bottom of the article or something, just to get her in the article and publishing changes. --—Deyvid Petteys (bother \ stalk) 01:10, August 14, 2012 (UTC)

I understand that Category:Candidates for speedy deletion no longer has articles in it, but several articles still hardlink there. We need to have those links removed or switched over to Category:Deletion Candidates before we can rightfully delete the old category. Thanks! --—Deyvid Petteys (bother \ stalk) 01:38, August 14, 2012 (UTC)
Since it seems like you know how to resolve these issues better than I do, I can give DwemerBot temporary sysop rights, so that these issues can be handled. Please let me know if this sounds like something you would be willing to do. --—Deyvid Petteys (bother \ stalk) 03:27, August 15, 2012 (UTC)
Tread forward carefully. I have given DB the proper tools for editing locked pages and deleting pages. Use the power wisely. Contact me the moment you finish these tasks. This type of thing is unprecedented, since your regular accounts does not have sysop tools. You are being given a huge privilege, because I trust you. Don't let me down. :) --—Deyvid Petteys (bother \ stalk) 04:00, August 15, 2012 (UTC)
As a frequent and skillful editor of the wiki, you already know the in's and out's of editing; you know your way around the wiki pretty well. Consider this a test-drive of sysop tools. You never know. Someday, we may nominate you to become an administrator on the wiki. Aside from learning how to use the tools, we would need an increased presence on the IRC from you. Right now, that's one of the only things standing in the way of you being nominated now, in fact. :) --—Deyvid Petteys (bother \ stalk) 04:09, August 15, 2012 (UTC)
Most of those templates needed to be deleted anyway, because they are obsolete and largely only link back to each other. Other pages may have linked to them, but I'll eat the losses and clean up afterwards. At any rate, it's not forbidden to recreate categories and articles that have been previously deleted. Simply click the beige message and see why it was deleted. It was probably a duplicate category at some point. Either way, I'm not sure if you wanted me to create that one in particular (Category:Category Templates) because it's completely empty. Is this the correct name perhaps? --—Deyvid Petteys (bother \ stalk) 19:52, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

Congrats![edit source]

You've been nominated for an administrator position on the wiki. Check out the nomination page: here. --—Deyvid Petteys (bother \ stalk) 07:52, August 16, 2012 (UTC)

Hard to believe we've come so far, isn't it? Of course it's about you! Give yourself more credit. :) --—Deyvid Petteys (bother \ stalk) 00:47, August 17, 2012 (UTC)

RE:Categories[edit source]

Forgive me. I've been under the weather for several days now, and I plan to rest it off for the next few days. I'll probably return on Thursday for the closing of your admin nomination. Until then, I only plan to make minor edits. I'm sorry. I have been busy in the meantime, though, editing over at Wikipedia. Now, before you accuse me of betrayal, I've been participating in the Good article project there, gathering information and hands-on experience with how their system works. This way, we can translate some of that knowledge over here and forge a better evaluation system for our own articles. Consider it "hands-on research". At any rate, in regards to your cuirasses question, I think its crucial that we make the distinction here between what is worn on the chest and what is worn on the legs. Skyrim is troublesome, as we said, because it combines the two. Bodywear seems a bit ambiguous to me. Handwear etc. could fit into it. We may, however, decide to use Category:Bodywear as an overarching category that branches off into Legwear, apparel worn on the torso, and items which are worn on both, such as Blue Velvet Outfit in The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion and Glass Armor (Armor Piece) in The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. Thoughts? The word "torso" may be helpful for us here as well. Mull it over and get back to me.--—Deyvid Petteys (bother \ stalk) 02:57, August 22, 2012 (UTC)

Go ahead and make the necessary changes for the VIP category. Sorry for not addressing that before. The other concerns distracted me. You're right. Torsowear is lame. I was playing around with the idea of "Full-Body Wear" as opposed to something like Torsowear or chestwear alongside legwear. What do you think? This is something we'll probably have to talk about in real-time on the IRC. --—Deyvid Petteys (bother \ stalk) 05:37, August 23, 2012 (UTC)

Adminship[edit source]

Congratulations on the successful admin nomination. You've definitely earned this honor. With these tools, you now have the ability to block troublesome users, lock pages from being edited, and delete pages from the wiki, as well as a plethora of other helpful tools. Please look over the list of admin abilities. You are welcome to test your new tool at the Admin Tools Wiki, a sandbox where blocking and deleting can be tested.

Before blocking users, please look over our block policy. This gives a basic outline of offenses and block lengths.

Additionally, check out Wikia's admin how-to guide. Any questions should be directed toward seasoned admins. --—Deyvid Petteys (bother \ stalk) 06:07, August 23, 2012 (UTC)

hey there is a page you need to delete it its called sorry that its so big i copyed the title of the pageDeirdreKent101 (talk) 02:27, August 25, 2012 (UTC)

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DwemerBot run[edit source]

Hey Grams! Hope you're doing well. When you get a chance can you please run DwemerBot on the most recent updates to its page. The over-arching categories Caves and Mines. Thanks :) —TombRaiser SPEAK! 21:47, August 30, 2012 (UTC)

Templates[edit source]

Hi Grams, it has come to my attention more than once that a few templates are in need of a little attention. I don't have a particularly large amount of experience with them, but I know what I'm looking at, and I figured you may have some expertise in the area.

Particularly troublesome (for me) are templates that incorporate a fixed image size. Two offending templates I have come across are the Skyrim Ingredients template and the Dragon Lair template.

This isn't generally a problem but every so often a case arises where it breaks otherwise normally functioning markup. For example I've noticed you've taken a bit of a liking to slideshows in the infobox. They are nifty. Unfortunately templates that have a fixed image size do not allow for slideshows, instead simply kicking the markup out and displaying text instead of the image(s).

Otherwise, having a fixed image size in the template results in a similiar effect while trying to add an image of a custom size. I.E. you'll see the hard coded size physically displayed around the image. The problem this creates then is large disparities in image sizes (and potentially quality), specifically with very wide and narrow or, conversely, very long and thin images. Easy examples of how great the difference can be are easy to spot. See here (long) and here (wide).

As I understand it a generic Wikipedia template (unspecified image size) has a default image size of 250px, why people feel the need to put specific image sizes directly into the template I do not know.

Unfortunately, I have brought this issue up with another admin already and it is not as simple a fix as simply removing the offending line. It seems that it has something to do with the way images are referenced as a file. Though I do not know who had specific involvment in creating the templates so who to ask about it is unclear.

There are other templates I saw that also have fixed image sizes in them, but I do not recall which ones. Sorry that ran a little long but it helps to be specific in certain things, especially ones that will affect a large number of articles.

Thanks for your time Zimakaru (talk) 20:25, September 9, 2012 (UTC)

Hi again, thanks about the images. Theres not much of a secret to it. Mostly just the official high resolution texture pack from Bethesda and copious amounts of anti aliasing.
Unfortunately for me a lot of images I take are actually straight from the inventory interface; in Skyrim it seems none of the in game anti aliasing, only 2 of the 4 types I use, affect the inventory interface.
When it's all combined performance may drop by around 40% or more depending on resolution, ugrids loaded, field of view or other factors. You're welcome to try them out though. In game 8x Multisampling, and in game FXAA, driver forced 8x Transparency Supersampling and injected SMAA ontop of all of that.
SMAA is probably the big "secret". Applies quality anti aliasing while keeping the image clean and clear. As an additional benefit it is the only anti aliasing solution that works on diagonals. Personally I use it in almost every game, combining it with other types of anti aliasing. You'll generally see a 4-7% performance hit on the ultra preset, so it is very light.
Additionally I noticed you rotated the dwemer bowls, but when you did a lot of aliasing was created, especially around the edges. I am unsure of why this happened, as far as I know whatever program you used should've smoothed the image and retained its clarity. Also I saw some color artifacting, likely a result of increased compression. I image if you're using photoshop you probably used the save for web feature and did a PNG-8. PNG-24 will certainly help preserve quality, of course at the cost of image size.
As for the templates, the two I mentioned are all that come to mind currently, but I suspect you've already taken care of them.
Sorry to hear about the cancer, but not sorry to hear about the treatment. As I understand it radiation treatments have a pretty high success rate. Hopefully you or your loved one come through it just fine. :)
Zimakaru (talk) 17:32, September 10, 2012 (UTC)

Template:SkyrimIngredients[edit source]

He GramsJ, you probably already know, but your recent change to Template:SkyrimIngredients means all the pages will need edited to fix the broken image links. I tired a similar edit at the request of a user, but rolled it back when I saw the problem that would follow. Maybe the bot can fix all the links?

Jimeee (talk) 17:56, September 10, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Templates[edit source]

Yeah I saw the fix. And it's the same issue Jimeee just mentioned. Unfortunately it looks like itll just be about 10-15 minutes of busy work for me to fix all those images. I feel compelled to since roughly 85% of the ingredient images are ones I uploaded; I know for a fact many of them will require custom sizing.

As for the slideshows, what would the code for the buffer section be? I am not all too familiar with the wiki markup. I will agree that the overlap is unsightly.

Also, I do recommend utilizing SMAA. It is simple enough, the SMAA injector is based off the FXAA injector, but I feel SMAA is a superior form of anti aliasing comparatively. You'll notice a big improvement, especially in older games like Oblivion and Morrowind. Personally I don't have either game on the PC, so it's pretty unlikely I'll be doing any images for them.

Zimakaru (talk) 18:28, September 10, 2012 (UTC)

A bot may be the quickest course of action. Although I have noticed in about the 40ish ingredients I made it through before getting your message, in most cases "File:" is before the image, however on a few I did see "Image:". The bot may not be a catchall, a manual check will still be required to ensure all ingredients are correct and to resize any as necessary.
As for the images, sorry to say but leaving blank space kind of rubs me the wrong way. Increases the image size and can make it appear to have wonky dimensions. Personally I would perfer to use a code to add the space if at all possible. Thinking something along the lines of {{clr}} that is used for page spacing.
Thanks Zimakaru (talk) 18:48, September 10, 2012 (UTC)
Hello again Grams, I have stumbled across another template with the same fixed image size issue; the Skyrim Quests template. It continues to elude me as to why people even bother to set these in the templates. In this case, the fixed size is literally the default size of 250px.
If you wouldn't mind fixing it that would be great. It may or may not have similar results to the ingredients, so checking a few quest pages at random may be a good idea to let you know if you'll need to run a bot through on clean up duty.
The bot did miss 2 ingredients pages of the ones that were left to change. Both of which were spaceless iterations of the extra "File:" that was added. I.e. Image=File:image.ext. It is probably possible to adjust for this in what the bot looks for.
Thanks Zimakaru (talk) 16:42, September 12, 2012 (UTC)

Locked Page in Need of a Good Editing[edit source]

Hey, the Akavir page's introduction has an extra space where it shouldn't. I'd do it myself, but the page is locked.

--The Milkman | I always deliver. 01:17, September 13, 2012 (UTC)

More Templates[edit source]

Hi again Grams,

I have happened across a few more templates with fixed image sizes; the giant camp template, groves template, and houses template.

On an unrelated note...ergh the aliasing! Those are solid images. It's been a long time since I've done anything with Morrowind, at least not since I played it years ago on the good old original xbox, so those look better than anything I've seen.

If you are running a newer Nvidia card, anything in the past 4-5 years, give enabling FXAA in the control panel a shot. Additionally please look into SMAA. It would make a world of difference on any image and even your gameplay enjoyment.

A combinaton of the two should give you a perfectly smooth image. :)

Zimakaru (talk) 22:31, September 13, 2012 (UTC)

Hello Grams,
The Dawnguard Book template needs a minor adjustment. If I'm not mistaken the line that says {{#if:{{{image|}}}|{{{image}}} should look more like {{#if:{{{image|}}}|{{HybridImage|{{{image}}}}}.
It is creating a minor issue that the image will not display unless specifically called as a "File:" or "Image:", even when using visual editing mode.
Thanks Zimakaru (talk) 21:58, September 15, 2012 (UTC)

Everything Ok?[edit source]

Hey GramsJ, I haven't seen you around the wiki for a while. Is everything okay? Just wanted to check in with you to see how you are doing. Hope all is well and that you are just taking a little break. :) —TombRaiser SPEAK! 06:30, October 23, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, it's good to hear from you. I figured that you may have had some radiation treatments and that was why you were not as active. Don't worry about being active on here everyday though, take care of yourself first and return when you can. :) —TombRaiser SPEAK! 18:52, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

Just a quick message[edit source] - minor vandalism, wrote wiener (however they spelt it wrong) on one of the pages, I went and undid it. Although it's minor, I'll leave you the IP address incase that users tries to vandalise another page. - Silver

Guild master quest[edit source]

hello i am trying to finish the guild master quest for the theives so far i have done almost 60 small job i have only done two city quest's but i can not get any futher wirh devin please help i have read the page on it but i am so lost my name is damien and my email is thank you for any advice or help you can use me —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)

Admin rights.[edit source]

Hello GramsJ, I am not sure if you will see this message, but I felt the need to write it. It has been about three years, and some felt that it was time to remove your rights as admin here on the wiki. We kept them as long as we had out of respect for you during your treatment, or out of remembrance fearing the worst had happened.

I hope we are all wrong about you being gone, and that after you recovered you moved on to other things, but if this is not the case, we do miss you.

Besides being marked as retired staff, you are also marked as a Honored editor, a title only held by you and one other. A small sign of respect to those we lost.

If you ever do come back, we have already agreed that the rights are yours again should you want them, after a brief catch up to all you missed, its been a lot :)

-Cheatcodechamp (talk) 23:19, November 21, 2015 (UTC)

Image of individual item in Morrowind[edit source]

Hi, you don't know me, but I could really use your help. I've been trying to get an image of an individual item in Morrowind, but I just can't seem to figure out how to get it in its own little box. I tried looking it up online, but couldn't find anything. I saw you added an image to a Morrowind armorpiece article, which was an image of an individual armorpiece. I was wondering if you could tell me how you did that. Thanks in advance, CarloV3r (talk) 17:03, July 7, 2016 (UTC)

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