The TowersEdit

The Towers is incredible. Nice job, Jimeee. 

Proweler (talk) 15:11, August 26, 2013 (UTC)Proweler

Thanks! A couple of parts need tweaked, so i'll to get around to it when I have time. Jimeee (talk) 17:20, August 26, 2013 (UTC)

Message on my doorstepEdit

The welcome sign on my talk page is getting rather annoying. So, if possible, I wish to delete it. I only ask to be cautious. I was banned on a different wiki for a short time for doing so.FortunePayback (talk) 21:05, August 26, 2013 (UTC)FortunePayback

UESP content Edit

User MHInfinite has copied UESP articles not written by himself almost verbatim to the wikia. Known pages include Imga (17 minutes it took to copy that one), the Online creatures pages which he has taken credit for though written by myself (The Silencer). Golden Silence (talk) 01:12, September 1, 2013 (UTC)

Issue dealt with. MHInfinite goes by the name AldmeriDominion on uesp. He made the edits on both wikis. The Online creature page in question is not plagiarized as the dates have been checked. The language is similar in both articles as the source material (the ESO website) is identical Jimeee (talk) 12:47, September 1, 2013 (UTC)

More UESP content Edit

Hi, Jimeee. I'm not normally one to complain about this sort of thing, but it seems Chairmanprescott6179 is lifting quite a bit from the UESP. Like, a lot. I revamp a UESP lore page, and a month or two later he lifts it with often-cosmetic changes. For instance, compare the UESP Ayleid page with the TES Wiki Ayleid page. Among other things, the opening quote is the same, and the Religion sections are almost verbatim. Like I said, I don't normally complain about this sort of thing. But apparently, he became Member of the Month over here while he was lifting my work from the UESP en masse. The kind of example this is setting for your other editors is more than a little disconcerting to me.

I revamped the UESP Dwemer lore page in June, saying "The history of the Dunmer is mostly a record of their conflicts with other races and each other, and the timeline is imprecise for many of these events." A month or two later, he added to the TES Wiki Dwemer page that "Little is known of the history of the Dwemer, and the early history and origins of their civilization, and most of their history is mostly a record of their conflicts with other races and each other. As such, their timeline is imprecise for many of these events." I haven't fully reviewed the page, but I'd bet that much of the "new information" he's been adding recently has come from the UESP.

The copying of the UESP's content has been substantial. Honestly, I don't know the full extent of it. To fully compare my contributions to the UESP to Chairman's contributions here would take hours, and frankly, I don't think it's just for that burden to fall on me. The revision histories clearly demonstrate that a major portion of his contributions here have been plagiarized from work myself and others have published on the UESP. I would appreciate it if you or another TES Wiki administrator would take up the task of policing this matter and making the necessary redactions to the TES wiki articles. Thank you for your time. Minor Edits (talk) 01:31, September 1, 2013 (UTC)

The article and user in question will be dealt with. I'll try to catch you in your IRC if I get time. Thanks. Jimeee (talk) 12:49, September 1, 2013 (UTC)

I do not plagiarize work of others from other websites, or any other source for that matter. I am in high school, and I know for sure that plagiarizing is illegal, morally wrong and can have serious consequences. I do not look at UESP articles for information, I study in-game books, dialogue and many other sources for information that would useful and suitable for the lore pages I work on. It is merely coincidential that the work is the same because it is taken from the same exact source: in-game books, dialogue and online sources, including the Imperial Library, created by Bethesda. This is very disconcerting to me, but hey, what can I do about it? If you wish to tell me that I have been plagiarizing work from UESP, then fine, but I will say this again, I do not and will not plagiarize the work of others.Chairmanprescott6179 (talk) 03:26, September 3, 2013 (UTC)
The user Itachi made this addition to the UESP in 2010, and it has remained substantially unchanged since then. Judging by your respective user pages and editing habits, it seems clear you are two different people, and thus you don't have the right to take Itachi's work from the UESP and claim it as your own. Yet you made cosmetic changes and then added it to the TES Wiki last February. The source does not use this language or even explicitly give this interpretaion; only the UESP used this language. This is textbook plagiarism. As for this revision last March, I added virtually identical language to the UESP Dwemer page last year. Just because you said the Dwemer had a "very strong presence" and I said they had a "strong presence" doesn't negate plagiarism. I'm busy at the moment, but I can certainly add more if you want to insist that you've never plagiarized the UESP content. There are plenty of examples I would consider borderline, and still others which were clearly copied and pasted with only cosmetic changes. I'm not trying to belittle all of your work, nor am I trying to hamper the TES Wiki, You are, of course, perfectly free to refer to the UESP, but not to copy it. We are both paraphrasing the same sources, yes, but you have to do so using your own words. Minor Edits (talk) 16:06, September 4, 2013 (UTC)
I feel that my intelligence is being insulted by the proffered defense here. If you had said that you honestly believed that all your changes to UESP content were enough to avoid copyright violations, I would've understood that. It would've been wrong, but I would have accepted that you reasonably believed it. But coincidence? No. And you're actually claiming that you don't look at UESP articles for information? No. Patently untrue.
Let's take a look at the Ayleid pages. I made substantial changes to the UESP Ayleid lore page on June 15, then went back on June 27 to add a religion section, among other things. After numerous maintenance edits starting July 1, you started making substantive revisions to the TES Wiki page on August 3.
1. Is it just coincidence that your interest in improving the TES Wiki Ayleid page came so quickly after my changes to the UESP page? Maybe.
2. You decided to add an opening quote to the TES Wiki on August 3 - the same quote I decided to use to open the UESP page. Now, of course I can't argue with the use of Bethesda's material, but how you used it is up for scrutiny. What inspired you to put it in the introduction? There's certainly other quotes to use in the introduction, ones which are equally insightful or more descriptive. Was it just coincidence? Maybe.
3. On August 6, you added to the opening sentence of the TES Wiki article that the Ayleids "ruled over modern-day Cyrodiil" since before recorded history. Much of what you wrote mirrored the source, except the source says "ruled Cyrodiil", not "ruled over modern-day Cyrodiil". What made you describe it like that? What made you add it to the latter half of the opening sentence - the same position as on the UESP's page? Coincidence? Maybe.
4. On August 8, you added a paragraph to the TES Wiki's page about Aedra worship. It seems to be almost exactly what I added to the UESP on June 27, except with some minor changes - likely just enough to pass under the radar of an online plagiarism detector (but certainly not enough to escape a living person exercising his or her common sense). Coincidence? Maybe.
5. I wrote "[T]here is a very strong argument that their society was fundamentally dedicated to the veneration of the Aedra, not the Daedra." You wrote "There are however very strong arguments that state that the Ayleids worshipped the Aedra, rather than the Daedra." It's hard to ignore the similarities. Isn't it odd that we would both cite "very strong" arguments for this notion, especially considering that they don't exist in the game or any other Bethesda material? This is original research; it is normally banned on the UESP, but received an exemption in this instance. So is it just a coincidence that you parroted my entirely original language? Maybe.
6. The next sentence, you went on to say that "The Ayleids venerated Magnus, the Aedric God of magic", citing Glories and Laments and The Monomyth. More than a month before, I had written "They are known to have venerated Magnus, the god of magic and the Aedra's absent comrade."  I had also cited Glories and Laments and The Monomyth - in the same order. And it's interesting you would say that they "venerated" Magnus, seeing as no source material uses that word. Coincidences? Maybe.
7. You wrote "Throughout many Ayleid Ruins, there are many statues which depict an eagle lifting up a figure carrying a bow and shield from the ensnaring ground." I had written "Ayleid statues throughout Cyrodiil depict an eagle lifting up a figure carrying a bow and shield from the ensnaring ground." Again, this is all original research, and this was my own way of describing the statue. You can't claim that we were both just paraphrasing a primary source in the same way by happenstance because there is no primary source. There's just the statue, which can be described in a virtually infinite amount of ways, and how I chose to describe it. In this instance, what you did not write is also relevant: there are other aspects of the statue which I did not articulate that help corroborate the symbolism. So is it just coincidence that you chose to mention only the aspects which I had mentioned, and that the latter half of your sentence matches mine verbatim? Maybe.
8. Next, you wrote "The bow and shield are the weapons asssociated with the Aedra Auri-El". I had written "The bow and shield are the weapons associated with the Aedra Auri-El." Exact. Same. Thing. Coincidence? Maybe.
9. Next in the UESP version, I had written "For the Altmer, the eagle represents the Aedra, and Ayleids presumably inherited this symbolism, as well." Next in the TES Wiki version, you wrote "Within the Altmer Pantheon, the Eagle represents the Aedra, and the Ayleids seem to have inherited the Eagle symbol as well." Different, but not really. Coincidence? Maybe.
Coincidences happen. Since both wikis are collections of what are called "derivative works" in copyright law which are derived from the same primary works, a few coincidences are to be expected. But the limitations on our copyrights in this respect only apply to the "scène à faire" of the subject: the indispensable incidents, characters and settings. How UESP contributors have chosen to organize and articulate those indispensable elements, however, is not mandated. In other words, you don't need to rely on the UESP's original language to properly convey your own derivative work, so any such language is fully protected. It's that work which you have been plagiarizing, as the ideas involved and how the UESP has chosen to express those ideas are distinct.
Your defense of "coincidence" lacks merit. To dismiss all this as coincidental is absurd. It's res ipsa loquitor. The things above which are not plagiarism on their face help establish that you have been substantially relying on the works of UESP contributors and then repeatedly disrespecting their copyrights. You have made a habit of taking UESP content and republishing it on the TES Wiki, typically with a small amount of insubstantial, token changes. This pattern you've exhibited establishes that these changes are readily interpretable as willful attempts to circumvent the copyrights - in other words, it's obvious that you knew what you were doing, and all you were concerned about was getting caught. Well, here we are.
I hope you can handle it from here, Jimeee. Sorry to clutter your talk page. Minor Edits (talk) 06:33, September 5, 2013 (UTC)
It has been over two weeks since my last message laying out evidence which I believe irrefutably demonstrates that Chairman plagiarized UESP content then lied about doing so. This should have been more than enough time for some remedial action to have been taken. Yet nothing has happened. I do not believe any administrators here were aware of Chairman's plagiarism before I brought it up here. But since then... well, essentially, the administration of the TES Wiki has knowingly allowed plagiarized content to remain published, and allowed the plagiarist to go without reprimand, for over two weeks. This is cause for concern.
After conferring with some other UESP editors, I believe a case like this, if it was discovered there, would be handled in the following way: the plagiarist would receive a formal warning. This case is even more egregious due to the plagiarist's blatant lying about his sources, so a temporary block would be given some consideration, at the very least. The edits in question would be immediately reverted via copying the relevant pre-plagiarized content, if applicable, and pasting it over the plagiarized content.
I'm not suggesting that the TESWiki must follow that exact procedure, or that it has to have the same rigid standards for ethical behavior practiced at the UESP. However, we do expect some form of equitable treatment. Minor Edits (talk) 05:36, September 21, 2013 (UTC)
Apologies for dealing with this so late - I have been fairly busy at work and dont spend much time here, minus various rollbacks. We agree that there is no question the editor has copied content from uesp and I have removed the copied parts that were of concern. The reason a straight revert was not performed was due to other editors making vaild additions after he did - so doing so would have wiped their work. In any case I agree I should have dealt with this earlier. We will also revoke the user's member of the month award. He won't be banned outright this time, but if anything like this happens again - he will be. I have messaged him about this. Sorry for all the bother. Jimeee (talk) 18:24, September 22, 2013 (UTC)
Me, too. Best wishes. 21:46, September 22, 2013 (UTC)

Cleanup Edit

Hi Jimeee,

I dont know if i did something wrong or no im new on this forum i really think all of this is soo usefull.

I got a problem right know im trying to make a post i did one 2013-08-31 at 21:55 about deadras worship (skyrim).

After clicking on post i couldn't find my post did i make a error or something that could stop me to put post on the forum?

So if you could help me with this would be great thanks.

thanks for the english lesson mr.Jime , and i honestly only want to say sorry , because all i want is to set things right in the wiki, not ruining it......

Hbxn (talk) 11:04, September 12, 2013 (UTC)

Trainers page Edit

Hi Jimeee,

I noticed you deleted the page on Trainers. Was this intentional?


Re: Location categoriesEdit

Thanks for pointing out.Since there was no category specific to Rorikstead (?), i added them to Whiterun Hold.

An example of this is Vilemyr Inn, which is located in Ivarstead, but Ivarstead doesn't have any categories exclusive of it, rendering it another "The Rift Hold Locations".

hi jimmee

Categories Edit

I didn't realize that "houses" meant places where the Dragonborn coud live, and that the map icon was the arbiter for whether something was a settlement or not. Sorry. Cubears (talk) 20:06, September 22, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment, i'll do some page ! ;)

Toralf Griffe-De-Glace (talk) 14:14, September 25, 2013 (UTC)


When I click on User:Documentalist/Walkthrough (Skyrim)/Planning and then on "Create page", I get a message  "This page is for a user who has not yet created his userpage. If you wish to contact this user, please leave a messages on his/her talk page." I asume Kroq created a user "Documentalist/Walkthrough_(Skyrim)" but didn't create his userpage. Documentalist (talk) 13:04, September 26, 2013 (UTC)

Main Page News ArticlesEdit

Oops. Sorry, Jimeee. TimeoinSay G'DayView my work 14:29, September 26, 2013 (UTC)

TESWiki GrammarEdit

Hi, I wanted to make a query about the grammar on TESWiki, because I usually see a 'battle' between American-English and British-English spellings and grammar. As well as being British myself, it can be quite confusing.

Basically, do I edit/correct spelling and grammar that is American-English or British-English?

TheLeadingContributer (talk) 16:29, October 2, 2013 (UTC)

Vlastarus (Online) edit war.Edit

I was asked by Admin Kennyannydenny to remove the Oblivion template from the Vlastarus Online page, but user MHInfinite keeps adding it back despite an Admin said the template was to be removed. Can something be done about this? DRAEVAN13 22:43, October 2, 2013 (UTC)

So I leave Oblivion out of the appearances section and add in the trivia "Vlastarus shares the name of a ruined fort in The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion. It is unknown if the two are related."? DRAEVAN13 01:32, October 3, 2013 (UTC)

How far should trivia go? Edit

Jimee, see this change to the Sanguine page: Is it appropriate for trivia sections to have things like this? It seems speculative (the main problem in my book), and it also doesn't really add anything to people's understanding. Granted, it does add some "flavor" to the article, so I really don't know.

I think the problem is that we are using the heading "Trivia" to cover miscellenaous facts relating to the article subject - the word "Trivia" invites people to add any old thing that they can think of that has even a peripheral relationship to the article.

What do you think? Cubears (talk) 22:20, October 6, 2013 (UTC)

I am sorry for what I did on the the thread discussion, I feel pretty awful and I hope you can forgive me(Spyrocks (talk) 03:05, October 8, 2013 (UTC)).

Online CategoriesEdit

I see a potential problem with one of them, from a quick glance.

Deceased Characters will essentially be unuseable, as a lot of characters can die for some but not others. (Depending on game choices). TimeoinSay G'DayView my work 14:20, October 8, 2013 (UTC)

Aaah. Okay. I had not thought about them. Yeah, that makes sense. I'm guessing we'll end up with some other category for those people, like Possibly Deceased or some such. (Not that name, that name sounds quite rubbish). TimeoinSay G'DayView my work 04:33, October 9, 2013 (UTC)

Siege of the Imperial City (Lord of Souls)Edit

I'm re-reading the Elder Scrolls novel "Lord of Souls", which concludes with a siege of the Imperial City by Vuhon's undead army. I was wondering, since we don't have an article of this siege and that we have pages for the characters of this novel, if I could write an article detailing this battle? DRAEVAN13 22:35, October 8, 2013 (UTC)

Which leads to my second question, how do you add references? I see them all the time in articles but have never added any myself. DRAEVAN13 16:35, October 9, 2013 (UTC)

To answer your question of "what happened after Mede sent the mages?" I'm still re-reading Lord of Souls, I'll hopefully have the page finished by the end of the week. DRAEVAN13 18:00, October 10, 2013 (UTC)

Also, if I can't use the Battle Infobox, how do I add the various Imperial Generals+Commanders in the battle? DRAEVAN13 18:47, October 10, 2013 (UTC)

Morrowind Articles Edit

Thanks for the suggestions, its nice to know that my edits to the Morrowind area of the wiki are not being left without guidance, or written in vein.

I'd like to say that i was following the Ice Blade of the Monarch (Quest) as a template (as suggested by AutoBlood). As this was one of the few Morrowind quest articles that was in a good way I thought (as I assume AutoBlood had done) that it was better to follow the format in which that article was written.

Again thanks for the suggestions, although, personally, i feel that the Trivia section of the article should be after the Journal (I think it gives a better round off to the article). Still if popular concensus deems that the Trivia section should come before the Journal then I am more than happy to change it around.

JPDurzel (talk) 17:03, October 10, 2013 (UTC)

One more thing, could you or someone else, please delete this page: as there is an article for that quest already.

JPDurzel (talk) 21:43, October 11, 2013 (UTC)

Unique weapons (Morrowind) Edit

I have noticed that we have not got a page for Unique weapons in Morrowind and I think we should have. Weapons that would fall under this section are Trebonius' Staff.

Please get back to me when you get a minute by leaving a message on my talk page. So its easier to find

Remember your mind is the best weapon you have (talk) 14:26, October 13, 2013 (UTC)


Can you please block the anon He keeps stalking and harrasing me. He doesn't even have an actual account, he does nothing but reply to every single one of my comments, even if they are related to the Thread or blog, and not an Anti-Nord Schtick (Which I will stop). I can't write a single comment on any Blog or Thread without him being there to antagonise me, and I don't even know who he isLord Hadron (talk) 03:00, October 16, 2013 (UTC)

User Boxes Edit

How do you make User Boxes?

Remember your mind is the best weapon you have (talk) 09:18, October 17, 2013 (UTC)

Lord Hadron Edit

Thanks for resolving the issue with lord Hadron. It was getting out of hand and all communication with him failed to work.

What is going to happen to the user he was going on about.

Remember your mind is the best weapon you have (talk) 13:31, October 17, 2013 (UTC)

Fine then, don't help. I won't draw attention to myself anymore like you said, but if that stalker continues to follow me I swear I won't hesitate to speak my mind, even if it get's me banned. Lord Hadron (talk) 09:50, October 18, 2013 (UTC) 

I married a Draugr thread Edit

Could you please remove this thread for me it is totally off topic and should be removed. I have asked the users to get back on topic but they won't listen. 

Here is the threads HTTP

Remember your mind is the best weapon you have (talk) 18:23, October 18, 2013 (UTC)

Adding alternate titles for articles Edit

I was wondering how I can add an alternate title for an article. For example, Recover Hrolfdir's Shield is an article that actually describes a miscellaneous quest called "Find Hrolfdir's Shileld for Igmund". I understand that this is likely meant to cover two misc quests (the second being, "Return to Igmund"), but I think it would be helpful for someone trying to find the article if there were a redirect from the actual quest log name to this article. I see redirects all the time for other articles, but my guess is that most of them were created when an article was renamed. Is there any any way to create a redirect without renaming? Cubears (talk) 15:42, October 19, 2013 (UTC)


Jimeee, why did you block my Lord Hadron account? I already got your message loud and clear, I won't do any of that anymore. I'll stop all that, everything you told me, I'll change my attitude. Please. I don't want to wait a full month. —This unsigned comment is by Anti-Nord Lord (talkcontribs) . Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

You should have thought of that before the decided to break the rules. Jimeee (talk) 15:44, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

Discerning the Transmundane journal Edit

Jimeee, a while ago, you pointed out to me that Discerning the Transmundane had a good example of a journal to use in other places. However, it is inconsistent. When there are multiple objectives for the same quest description, in some cases, they are each just a separate bullet in that one row of the table. However, in others, each objective gets a separate table row. Which way should it be? I have been using the separate table rows for each, but someone just "fixed" my updates to Pieces of the Past to combine them into single rows. Which way do we want to use?Cubears (talk) 19:59, October 20, 2013 (UTC)

Blog Help Edit

Hi, the lowly Jett Cyber here. Can you help me with my blog? I published it and everything, but it is not on the recent blog posts page. I know it published because I got the Opinionator Achievment, and if I go to the recent activity/followed pages page it is there. P.S. I am asking most of the Admins for help, so if an answer is already on my talk-page, you need not reply. Thanks in advance, Oh Great Admin. -Jett Cyber (talk) 20:40, October 20, 2013 (UTC)

GTA 5 Edit

Are you on PS3 or XBOX 

Remember your mind is the best weapon you have (talk) 14:54, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

Xbox. Jimeee (talk) 15:08, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

Blocked ThreadEdit

I red that "Deadra stronger then aedra?" thread and, pretty much I'm STILL looking for parts of my brain that blew out. Holy moly, that was down the toilet instantaneously. 19:27, October 25, 2013 (UTC)

Lord Hadron has returned Edit

Hello, Jimeee I suspect an account called M'aiq the Lover is Lord Hadron. He put a comment on my talk page saying this

  • You haven't won. You never will... M'aiq the Lover 04:44, October 26, 2013 (UTC).

Could you please look into who M'aiq is? I think it's Hadron. I can just tell by the comment.


P.S.: Could you please tell me what you think it is on my talk page?

I know my profile says I am but I am actually I accidentally changed my IP address. I don't know how it happened though.

Trivia verses Notes Edit

Greetings & salutations - We saw your comment about the heading Trivia on Cubears talk page and agree. When we read the rational behind not using Notes, we did not agree with it (as if changing the name would somehow magically upgrade the content, LOL). To us, a heading titled Trivia invites trivial entries, something we think undesirable. We also edit on the fallout Wiki, and they use Notes. The only "major" game Wikis we are familiar with that use Trivia are the Borderlands and  Assassin's Creed Wikis. Perhaps this should be brought up for a new consensus, especially as a bot could probably make the change. DarthOrc (talk) 05:35, October 27, 2013 (UTC)

Cyrodiil JungleEdit

Just wondering if you saw this or not. TimeoinSay G'DayView my work 11:24, October 27, 2013 (UTC)

P.s. I never understood this to begin with. The first PGE was where it came from in the first place wasn't it? Because it is a horrible reference to use in the first place (errors, errors everywhere!) TimeoinSay G'DayView my work 11:27, October 27, 2013 (UTC)

Forum Edit

I understand. It's a bad habit of mine that I find difficult to break. In this case, it just really bothered me that I was called a backseat mod just for trying to help another editor. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 15:38, November 1, 2013 (UTC)

Nice guyEdit

i don't like you —This unsigned comment is by DRAGONBORN7 (talkcontribs) . Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

Thankfully, I have no idea who you are. Jimeee (talk) 11:06, November 4, 2013 (UTC)

Corrected spelling/grammar Edit

Hey there Jimee. So, this is a random question, but I hopes its one you can help me with. I play on a text adventure site, and my main character wears dwarven, and I was looking to get a picture of one suit, and I saw yours. 
 (Which is awesome by the way). That being said, I was hoping if you wouldn't mind me using it. It would be simply for my file only, and only to show what his armour looks like. If you don't want me to, I won't and completely understand. 


P.S. If you do allow me to use it, could I also change the cloth from red to blue? Thanks once again.

P.S.S. Sorry for the wrong subect by the way, I didn't know what to put there. 

Trevor.r.anderson.9 (talk) 01:57, November 4, 2013 (UTC)

Blocked User Edit

EmperorJohnson has recently approched me and told me that the user who was using my Colleges IP address has struck again. How do I find out the IP address and his/her contributions. 

Bede has agreed to help again but needs the IP address (because everyone is appartently different), the time and the date of the recent incident. 

Please get back to me asap 

Your mind is the best weapon you have /<Alduin1996> (talk) 19:32, November 4, 2013 (UTC)

Delete or redirect Edit

I have recently put a deletion template on House Redoran Stronghold page because the page already existed. Should I redirect or keep the deletion template in. 

Your mind is the best weapon you have Alduin1996 (talk) 17:40, November 5, 2013 (UTC)

Re: MinecraftEdit

Thanks Jimeee, I'm still partly in shock as it was so unexpected. And I was very close to my mum. I miss her very much but I'm doing better every day. It will take time to get used to her not being here anymore. But I have my brother and sister to talk to as I do everyday. Please, it would be great if you could write the newsblog post so I don't have to think about it. AutoBlood have uploaded images a few days ago that can be used. —EbonySkyrim Message! 15:50, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

Just saw you already had written the blog :) Thanks.. —EbonySkyrim Message! 15:54, November 6, 2013 (UTC)
No problem Ebony! Take care. Jimeee (talk) 18:42, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

Dwarven Armor concept art Edit

Thanks for getting back to me Jimeee, and thank you for explaining it to me. I have just one more question, I was wondering if you know where these rules are located, it would be very helpful if you could tell me where they are. If not, then thank you anyways. Oh, and do you happen to know the name of the orignal artist that worked on it?


(Trevor.r.anderson.9 (talk) 14:07, November 7, 2013 (UTC))

Check User Rights Edit

Have you ever thought about applying for Check User rights? I believe you could really benefit from them, and seeing your contributions, I can't imagine Wikia would deny you. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 15:45, November 8, 2013 (UTC)


Check the posts made by him on your blog about Minecraft Skyrim:


He has done enough already to warrant a permaban, that much is not questionable, check all of his blog posts he has ever made as well as his talk page. It is absolutely ridiculous that he hasn't been banned already if you want me to be honest. I don't wish to bother you but I do believe he should be given judgement for his actions.

Multi column pageEdit

When working on the ID standardization, I found a multi column page :-). See my post on User talk:Flightmare. Documentalist (talk) 18:59, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Please delete my pageEdit

Sithfanjedi (talk) 14:58, November 12, 2013 (UTC)Sithfanjedi

Hello Jimeee,

I noticed the page 'Help:Signature' is redirecting to the wikia's home page. I wasn't sure if that was supposed to happen, but in any case I'm reporting it to you.

Regards, --PLPellegrini (talk) 11:28, November 14, 2013 (UTC)

Shields transclusion in ArmorEdit

Copy the source from User:Documentalist/Shields (Skyrim) to Shields (Skyrim) and replace the source of Armor (Skyrim)#Shields with this:

{{main|Shields (Skyrim)}}
{{:Shields (Skyrim)|class=light}}
{{:Shields (Skyrim)|class=heavy}}

Documentalist (talk) 05:49, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

thanks, Documentalist (talk) 12:23, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

ESO RedirectEdit

Hi, I noticed that there was a redirect for the main ESO page called The Elder Scrolls: Online. Since it's an incorrect spelling of the game's name would it be best to delete it? I'd add the deletion template myself, but the page has been protected to prevent editing. MHInfinite (talk) 10:44, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

How do you add a class like Patroller but with another name and to give it an admin or patoller fonction?Jarjarkine (talk) 21:35, November 21, 2013 (UTC)

Skyrim Keys pageEdit

Hello Jimeee,

While researching I found some keys with names and IDs, but that are useless and unobtainable by standard gaming methods (in other words, just by console commands) and I wonder if I should add them or not. What do you think?

Regards, PLPellegrini (talk) 02:10, November 22, 2013 (UTC)

Request: Insert these keys at least in Console Commands (Skyrim)/Keys. Console Command should list all codes. Thanks Documentalist (talk) 18:02, November 22, 2013 (UTC)

Why revert ? Edit

I don't know why you reverted this edit, if you looked at the page carefully then you would see that the page is referring to the Dawnguard version of the Bow: there is no reason to list the Dawnguard version of the Bow as having appeared in previous games. That's why there is a disambiguation page for Auriel's Bow listing the different versions: the Dawnguard version appears only in Dawnguard, it doesn't appear in any other version. --Speysider Talk Page | Tabber Code | Channel 16:39, November 22, 2013 (UTC)

Ancient Power LocationsEdit

So, I was poking around the location of the first part of the quest, snapleg cave, and looked at the quest tab. I looked at the qustline itself and it showed multiple possible locations. I was going to edit the pages of said locations with the quest. However, with the locations being random, I wanted a second input if it would be "important" enough to do so.FortunePayback (talk) 01:22, November 24, 2013 (UTC)FortunePayback

Empty section in Word Wall articleEdit

Actually, the section wasn't completely empty - it did have the locations. That's why I added it - I went to the Word Wall article to find the locations for the Drain Vitality shout, but it wasn't there. Since I have a PS3, I can't take any screenshots, and I have no idea where to find the Dragon language translations. But I still thought there was sime use for the section where someone else could fill the rest out, since it did have the locations. Do you not think that the locations are a useful thing? 05:58, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

Answering questions. Edit

So, I just recently checked Lord Hadron's page and saw that he used the "My name is..." and "My occupation is..." tabletes to ask a question. This is not the first time I've seen him do this. So I was just wondeirng, should I respond or something? Or just ignore him? Zippertrain85 (talk) 06:30, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

Okay, I understand. Tha's why I asked, because I know you're the expert it comes to how to deal with him, and I didn't want to "feed the troll" per se. Zippertrain85 (talk) 16:51, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

J'zargo's historyEdit

Hi Jimeee, I was looking through a couple of follower articles when I came across J'zargo's. It seems that this new "history" part of his article seems a little bit skeptical. It seems like it could be true, but I haven't found some of the items or things it proposes. For example I can't find a mention of "J'zargo's Journal" anywhere on the Wikia, or on Google/Bing. Also at the end it claims J'zargo wanted to go straight to the College of Winterhold, when infact when talking to him in game he makes claims for the Synod College and College of Whispers as well.

As I'm not positive of how true it was, I didn't want to edit it, and thought it better to have you check it out. The user who posted it also left two other headers that have no content but look like he/she plans to put content in. I would be greatful if you could check it out, thanks! Imperial Scourge (talk) 19:25, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

I also know the same thing happened a couple days/a week ago on the Nordic bow article, so it might be some more fanon rather than fact. Imperial Scourge (talk) 19:36, November 27, 2013 (UTC)


Hey Jimeee. I just went to the page Homestead and your template from September 2012 is still on there. Can this template be removed? Kennyannydenny (A question is never stupid, only he who asks it) 11:29, November 28, 2013 (UTC)

Done. Forgot all about that. Jimeee (talk) 12:09, November 28, 2013 (UTC)

Thy nameEdit

May i ask you something completely meaningless? Where does your name comes from? I can only think of Timmy in South Park, this made me curious. —Sky Above,Voice Within · Show thy Voice! 14:33, November 28, 2013 (UTC)

Oh. I feel dumb. Thanks for the reply!—Sky Above,Voice Within · Show thy Voice! 14:54, November 28, 2013 (UTC)


User talk:Runesfuer just removed a bunch of comments on this thread ( just because they recognized CHIM as "being legit".

This isn't allowed is it?

Dovahsebrom (talk) 06:29, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

On pictures of armour setsEdit

I have 2 questions:

1. In this picture I enhanced the DoF so it has more contrast on the main object (armour), but my edits are reverted. Are modded pictures 100% not acceptable on wikia? If it is the case I will retake the screencaps.

2. In this talk page I argued that pictures of armour sets should be more consistent: shield should be included in the screencap if shield is a part of the armour. We haven't come to a conclusion so I want to ask for an admin's opinions.

--Cnb256 (talk) 17:14, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

Edit for protected Nightingale Hood pageEdit

Hey, looks like this page was indefinitely protected back in January 2013, but I wanted to add a useful bug fix for the color-changing hood bug on PS3, where if you give the Nightingale Hood item to a companion at night time, he or she will equip it, restoring its normal color scheme, and the player can then retrieve it and reequip it. NokiaTouchscreen (talk) 07:12, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

Yes Hello, Ive been trying to post this blog for a bit, but it keeps  not letting me, saying it was vandilism or something. I think its because I didn't use a signature. I mean, Ive never had to before. But now its not letting me publish it at all. Advice?4. 1. 22. 5. M97 (talk) 06:39, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

Blog linksEdit

Hey there, I had a question about providing links to your own blogs from within your profile page. I made it so I put an info box for all of my blogs and I made them include links to the pages, and it said it didn't exist. So I was wondering, to the pages have to be articles to be able to have links or am I just doing something wrong?Madman97 (talk) 01:36, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

I handled this. --—Deyvid Petteys (bother \ stalk) 01:53, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

Thank youEdit

Hi Jimee! I want to say thank you for all your works here. I am not good at english but i hope you'll understand because i am really happy and i am sure tht you did alot of things here. I am saying you taht becaue i want to thx every member of my little head-list. And you're one of them so continue your great work!—Emperor Jarjarkine Mail me Mortal!! 00:17, December 12, 2013 (UTC)


Hey my name is Ryan and im messaging you sbout the article titled Homestead for Skyrims: Heathfire. In Stage 2 of the article it should mention something about a follwer that you made a steward being able to buy clay, quarried stone, or logs for you. Thank you.Dorkwad the Dark Elf (talk) 06:24, December 12, 2013 (UTC)

Hi jimeee :) can you help me? i asked something to tomb and she said: You are talking about the recent change to our search box, right? When you search for a page it displays a thumbnail image in the search box. This is the first time I've seen it since Fluid Layout was released to all wikis, but I'm thinking that it has to do with our wiki's The "Elder Scrolls Wiki app" since I am not seeing these changes to any other wikis besides this one.

So, do you know who its working or how and why is it like that?—Emperor Jarjarkine Mail me Mortal!! 17:51, December 12, 2013 (UTC)

Unnecessary articleEdit

Hey Jimeee. I was about to add the deletion template to Sayma's Silver Sapphire Necklace when i realized i couldn't come up with a valid reason. Should that article be there? —Sky Above,Voice Within · Show thy Voice! 17:57, December 12, 2013 (UTC)

Page deleted. It's a radiant item from the The Fishing Job quest. No need for it. Jimeee (talk) 18:02, December 12, 2013 (UTC)

Hi Jimeee Are you good with Javascript?Emperor Jarjarkine Mail me Mortal!! 13:58, December 15, 2013 (UTC)

Letter(Message) of Thanks :) Edit

The article on The Towers is amazing! Now I finally know what's really going on in the world of the Elder Scrolls. Thanks, Jimeee! HumbleDaedricServant (talk) 11:07, December 17, 2013 (UTC)HumbleDaedricServant

No problem. :) Jimeee (talk) 11:11, December 17, 2013 (UTC)


Could you highlight the Service Desk? Thread:481803 thx Documentalist (talk) 15:06, December 18, 2013 (UTC)

Now i know :) Thats becuz they are putting it in all big wiki!Emperor Jarjarkine Mail me Mortal!! 13:13, December 20, 2013 (UTC)


I would like to report users:

For the following reason(s): Antagonization, continuous name-calling and refusal to stop such actions (on chat).

While not an overly serious offense, I would like a warning issued.

MoS (talk) 23:55, December 21, 2013 (UTC)

I, and everyone else involved, have accepted our wrong-doings and have apologized to Man of Steak for calling him "Moss" repeatedly despite being told to stop. Please forgive us. UAM (talk) 00:06, December 22, 2013 (UTC)

Nikulas's quest Edit

I don't know what you mean when you say that there is no in-game quest title. There certainly is. The name of the quest in the Miscellaneous quest log is, "Convince Mikulas to stay in Skaal Village." That's what I initially looked for, and that's why I changed the name. If that's not what you mean, what is the "in-game quest title" that you mean? Also, I don't have the CK, so I don't even know that the CK name for the quest is. I only know what I saw on my PS3.Cubears (talk) 23:49, December 23, 2013 (UTC)

OK, I understamnd the point about full sentences. However, my concern is that, by using a wording that does not appear in the game, we are making it harder for people to find the article they are looking for. Since the words "Nikulas's Future" don't appear anywhere in the game, how are psople going to find it? Now, since I renamed it and you renamed it back, there is now a redirect from the full game name, so this particular case will be fine. However, unless we are going to go through and create redirects for all the misc quest names to the shorter name that we think sounds better, we are hurting the value of the Wikia for new users.
Think of it this way - Without there being an easy way to search for the names that appear in the game, we will have people creating duplicate articles, leaving it to someone who knows the history here to delete/merge them in. This has happened to me on at least one occasion - I searched for a quest name, couldn't find it, so I assumed that one didn't exist.
Maybe we should consider adding something to the quest template where this info could go. We could call it, "alternate name", or "game name", or "quet log name." What do you think? Should we create a consensus track thread on this? Cubears (talk) 15:38, December 24, 2013 (UTC)


can you make another catagory for other members for non altmer thalmor operatives because the thalmor is not just made up of altmer they utilize others races and in skyrim they have Khajiti operatives associated with their organiztion

  • Gissur
  • Shavari
They are mercs employed by the Thalmor, so they can't be added. Jimeee (talk) 10:33, December 24, 2013 (UTC)
I would like to complain about a rogue patroller Sky Above,Voice Within for failing to comply with the current policies and style guidelines. preferbly violating reference and sourcing policies denying contributors who use  references to link to an in-game book to provide a source to the subject in question.
Any material that is challenged and for which no source is provided may be removed by any editor. I have been for the past several hours been trying to contribute to a page and have been blocked or had my material erased the Thalmor skyrim page I have provided in game citations and communcated with the Patroller that my material has sources he has even went back and deleted your edits to the page I will not stand for it any longer as an adminsttrator I hope you can resolve this matter —This unsigned comment is by Thalmoralltheway (talkcontribs) . Please sign your posts with ~~~~!


This 'Thalmoralltheway' person has been making abusive comments on both Sky Above,Voice Within's talk page and my own, and this user's edits are clearly intentionally counter-productive. - Erik the Mad (talk) 11:48, December 24, 2013 (UTC)

Thalmor win Edit

ok thank you I appreciate your help

thanks for the support in pushing through my little contribution

Thalmoralltheway (talk) 12:03, December 24, 2013 (UTC)Thalmoralltheway

Thalmor members disagreementEdit

Thank you for dealing with that issue. I was about to ask an admin to talk with him. —Sky Above,Voice Within · Show thy Voice! 12:05, December 24, 2013 (UTC)

Chat Mod elections possible reformation. Edit

Hello Jimeee, I'm here to talk to you about the current system used for electing chat moderators on this Wiki. The voting has more or less turned into a populairty contest, where people are becoming Chat Mods simply because they're might have a lot of friends in the community. While people who are actually qualified for the position may get rejected simply for having unpopular opinions. A couple months ago I applied to a Chat Moderator, and was rejected for absurd reasons, such, one user even claming that they're rejecting me because I'm "close minded" when debating. Another user was rejected for using emoticons too much. This is outrages that users are being denied positions because of petty reasons. And some people who may not even dserve the title for multiple reasons could get choosen, and use their powers for personal gain. I have many theories about how this system could be modified or downright remade. But first, I would like to talk about this with you and some other Administrators, since this isn't just something that can be done overnight. Let me know what you think on my Talk Page. Zippertrain85 (talk) 03:26, December 26, 2013 (UTC)

I agree completely with what Zippertrain85 is saying about it being a popularity contest. My recomendation is someone from "Upper Admin." needs to make an alternate account and visit the Chat for a few weeks to see what TRUELY is going on. 
Just a suggestion. ODragono (talk) 03:39, December 26, 2013 (UTC)
I agree completely with both of you. Popularity, and popular views is what gets you far on this website...
Hero by day, devious-psychopath by night, (talk) 03:49, December 26, 2013 (UTC)RougeHero
I agree with Zipper, also. If one is kind and friendly he's sure to recieve a good amount of Support in the Chat Mod vote. Even if he's not really fit for the position. PLPellegrini (talk) 03:59, December 26, 2013 (UTC)

The Soul Gem Lore ProjectEdit

Hey! Sorry for disappearing back then. Something happened with my Wikia account and I didn't really bother much to regain it. As the holidays of 2013 came, I finally got some free time and I remembered of the project we started and I decided that I should finish it. I started working on a "prototype" page . If you're still interested and have any free time, I'd love your help.

Ikabite (talk) 07:33, December 26, 2013 (UTC)

Corrected spelling/grammar Edit

Hi. I just wanted to know if you know about Hearthfire for the xbox for skyrim because i have a question about that. (i am level 1 by the way) Anyways when i open skyrim i go to Whiterun and i wait at the gate for a courier to come and give me the letters to do something and i have been waiting for 5 minutes and no courier. Legouniverse143 (talk) 13:15, December 26, 2013 (UTC)

The Ancient Nordic Pantheon Edit

Hello Jimeee!

I have only got one question. In the article of the Ancient Nordic Panteon are some pictures that show which god belongs to which deified animal. But I wonder who the other persons on the pictures are - it seems like on the left side there are men carrying a dead king (maybe to his tomb) and on the right side there are women who carry a queen. Who do they symbolize?

Thanks and greetings from Germany! 14:55, December 27, 2013 (UTC) Great Elder-Scrolls-Fan

GracefulWalrus Edit

Hello. While patrolling chat, I came across four individuals. They are listed below.





I know the links are red, but that's because they haven't made their user pages yet. They haven't really done anything forcing a ban, but I thought it would be best if you would handle it. To distinguish them:

The first one has just L's.

The second one has an i instead of an L in Graceful.

The third has i's instead of L's in both of the words.

The last has an i instead of an L in Walrus.

I hope you can deal with this because I don't know what to do. The Seller of the Pickles, and the Guardian of the MudkipzHareMessageTurtles 04:04, January 4, 2014 (UTC)

EDIT: He has provided this picture: This means he is the same person, and he is making alternate accounts. The Seller of the Pickles, and the Guardian of the MudkipzHareMessageTurtles 04:07, January 4, 2014 (UTC)

The Marukhati SelectiveEdit

All info in the Marukhati Selective comes from an out of game source known as Where were you when the dragon broke? this source is a longer version of the in-game book Where Were You When the Dragon Broke?, also where does it say they danced atop the Adamantine Tower? The OOG source specifically states that they danced atop a staff or tower (most likely a staff that represents "the Tower").

Dovahsebrom (talk) 18:42, January 5, 2014 (UTC)

Canon TiersEdit

Hey! Saw you editing, decided to say hi. I'm still working on the soul gem page. There's this other thing a couple of wikia'ns seem to agree with.

Many alway argue about Kirkbride's lore being canon or not and if it should even be mentioned here. So we've come up with a solution that should please everybody. Have you seen how Star Wars deal with their canon? They have tiers. Upper tier can always overwrite the lower one. So this is what I suggest. We create a similar tier system and place Kirkbride's canon below Bethesda's canon.

This way we can include the Kirkbride's canon in the wiki, at the same time informing the reader that this can be overwritten by Bethesda.

And I think this should be put up to a public vote. How do ye like the idea?

--Ikabite (talk) 11:51, January 6, 2014 (UTC)

I feel like all you really need is to give it an OOG reference. MK's writings should be interpreteted as much as possible within existing lore so that it can be explained better. I'm not sure if excluding it from the other lore is a good idea.[OOG 1]
Notice: The following are unlicensed references. They are not copyrighted by a ZeniMax Media company, but can still be considered part of The Elder Scrolls lore and are included for completeness.
Dovahsebrom (talk) 03:11, January 9, 2014 (UTC)

Vote. Edit

I was just wonder if I could have your vote for Chat Moderator? I've been answering questions, getting forums to remain on task, not getting in big arguments, etc. And since I do need atleast one Administrator vote, I was wondering if you could do it. Thanks. Zippertrain85 (talk) 17:17, January 6, 2014 (UTC)

Updated with new information Edit

Hey there, I'm an Admin over on the InFamous wiki, and we've recently had a problem with a user by the name of Lord Hadron. Apparently some guy with a grudge against him followed him there and left a message saying " Hadron, you will never be a winner. Never. Hopefully Jimeee will ask Wikia to globally block your I.P. address."

We closed up that thread with a warning that any other threads on that subject would get them both banned. Hadron responded with his own thread and now they're both blocked, and I was just curious as to what happened that made that guy so cross. By the way, Lord Hadron might've been Hadron12 or M'aiq The Lover when this happened. If my signature does not work, I am using four tildes, it just does that sometimes to me. Good Lord I love message walls. Sorry, off topic. Anyway, let me know.

Redexx- You have no idea who you're dealing with 02:48, January 9, 2014 (UTC)Redexx

Yup, see? Didn't work. No clue why.

Imperial LibraryEdit

I just wanted to say that I find it amazing that you add obscure texts from TIL to this wiki! Maybe some users will read them and become totally fascinated with the more complex lore.

AngryEnclaveSoldier (talk) 16:02, January 10, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Doing it also as a backup and for easy reading on mobile devices. Jimeee (talk) 16:07, January 10, 2014 (UTC)
Speaking of these new pages for MK's writings, do we still need to use OOG sources to the Imperial Library when referencing his work or can we just have normal references that lead to these MK Pages?
Dovahsebrom (talk) 01:21, January 11, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Just a noteEdit

Oh, sorry. I'm going to have a look on the pages in which i have changed that later. —Sky Above,Voice Within · Show thy Voice! 18:44, January 10, 2014 (UTC)

I need your help. Edit

I am going on other wikis and Lord Hadron is harassing me on that wiki. He got me and himself blocked and he is being disruptive on the Assassins Creed wiki as well. I know you have nothing to do with those wikis but this is the reason I am putting this comment on your talk page. Could you ask Wikia to globally block his IP address? He is trolling people on those wikis and he made an irrelevant post on my message wall calling me a stalker and also said comments about you and he said that you could go fuck yourself and he accused you of trying to block him since he first joined.


Sorry about the signature, I am using my IPad.

Corrupted imageEdit

Hey Jimeee, stumbeled on this image, it seems it's corrupted. Can you upload a new version of it? Both Tomb, Zimakaru and I have experienced this before and it seems the only thing to do is to upload a new version. —EbonySkyrim Message! 20:42, January 11, 2014 (UTC)

PS, your talkpage is really long! ;) —EbonySkyrim Message! 20:43, January 11, 2014 (UTC)

ban apeal Edit

ah hi i got banned for saying 'you have to suck 500 dragon c0cks to be an admin' not a happy camperDhova12 (talk) 14:02, January 12, 2014 (UTC)

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