aka Raz

  • I live in Melbourne, Australia
  • I was born on September 1
  • I am Female - no really! Female Gamers exist!

Welcome, Razorgirl!

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Dynamic TablesEdit

Apologies for the delay in responding. (I blame children and the easter break). Anyways - in answer to your question - We already do use it on some of the tables, but I do agree that it should be on more of them. (If not all). As to how to go about proposing it properly - it would be best to do so on the Weekly Moots. Apologies about the delay - if Id seen it sooner, I could have recommended it for this weeks one, which I couldnt go to. (Theres a link to them at the top of the Moot page).

As to the talk pages - idk. It was one the wiki as a whole decided upon a very long time ago. (As with the moot -we all decide upon things, not just individually). (Its something that you can bring up at moots as well, if you wanted too. Personally, I prefer talk pages, but thats largely because its what ive always used. (I was here before Wikia HAD message walls).

On a completely unrelated note - are you part of the Aussie Gamer Chicks page? I feel like would be. (If not, consider it, as theyre pretty awesome). TimeoinSay G'DayView my work 23:37, March 26, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Your Last Weekly Report Edit

Well if you want to present a topic for the moot, you should sign your name and what your topics are on the moot page under the "Current Moot Topics" section. Then, this weekend (for me, in New York, it's at 8pm on Saturday; it would be sometime on Sunday in Melbourne, not sure exactly when though) Signing up is not strictly necessary (you can just show up and present your topics), but it's more efficient to know what we'll be talking about ahead of time. —Atvelonis (talk) 16:23, April 12, 2016 (UTC)

User blog renamingEdit

Hey Razorgirl,

There's been an issue renaming your userblog, as happens often. You aren't able to view it now, but it should be fixed in a few hours. I hope you understand, —CarloV3r (talk) 14:05, December 29, 2016 (UTC)

The blog has been fixed now. Thanks for your patience. —Atvelonis (talk) 15:38, December 29, 2016 (UTC)
You guys rock. Thank you! 😍🙃👍 - Razorgirl 14:53, December 30, 2016 (UTC)

Thank you! Edit

Hello Razor!

Thank you for the compliment, very kind of you to say that. Happy to hear that my posts are having a positive effect! Blessings of Mara upon ye. Blademaster Jauffre (talk) 13:13, January 2, 2017 (UTC)

Black DogEdit

Thank you for that post. I have been in denial about suffering depression, but after watching that movie, I can relate to just about everything described in it. The Cat Master (talk) 18:44, January 2, 2017 (UTC)

Black Dog VideoEdit

Hey Razorgirl,

First off I want to say that I don't mind it myself at all, and I'm actually somewhat glad you did it, since it helped Cat Master out a bit (or I'm guessing it did anyway.) But, the video you uploaded was against forum policy, since it was uploaded solely for the use of the forums and stuff. In the future, try just using a url please.

I'm not upset that you uploaded the video - as I said, I'm kinda glad - but I just wanted to point out the rule to you, so that you don't do the same thing in the future. I'm not an admin or anything, and I'd really doubt you'd get in trouble for it, but this is kind of a heads up that odds are if you upload stuff for just the forums it'l get deleted.

I actually kind of did the same thing before (uploading something just for the forums that is) and didn't know where my file that I uploaded went, and I kinda was extremely confused. But anyway, I suppose I don't need to write an essay on this. I hope to see you using the forums - I hardly ever post anymore, but I do read the forums still lol - and I hope that you have a good day. If you have questions, feel free to message me or one of the admin. Thank you. The_CrusaderTalkpage11:51:06 January 03, 2017_

Re: Thread's Name Needs CorrectionEdit

Thanks, I can't believe I missed that. As for the other thread, I blame Catmaster because he asked me to make another one. That being said, I'd direct them to the new thread because it's newer, although if the other one has a deep discussion/"fanbase," then they can stay as they are. Ottoman Hold Message Me My Action 06:54:01 January 07, 2017

Welcome back Edit

Nice to see you on the wiki again. I'm not really sure what we were trying to accomplish with this three years ago, but it definitely hasn't panned out. :P

Something to note... DPL has been enabled here for like 8 years, but has traditionally been under-utilized. We're (slowly) attempting to replace some of our simpler tables with DPL tables, as we do on all of our card articles for Legends, for example. Rupuzioks has been doing most of the heavy lifting here. If you're interested in helping out again, you're more than welcome to join our Discord server.

I had to delete your "List of Followers (Skyrim)" article as Follower (Skyrim) already exists. It is really not great for reader comprehension or SEO to have duplicate articles on these things. But the data is retrievable in MediaWiki (and here is a paste anyway). It would be fine to incorporate this material into Follower (Skyrim) somehow. I would just be concerned about table width; maybe the skills columns can use line breaks instead of commas to make it narrower. I don't know if we can DPL these tables as our infoboxes have different parameters, so for now it would have to be by hand. —Atvelonis (talk) 18:26, April 10, 2020 (UTC)

Oh hey! It's nice to be remembered.
Wow. I only just noticed this message. Is there a reason you haven't activated the Message Wall feature in this Wiki? It makes receiving notifications about new message *much* easier. I haven't been ignoring you, I didn't know this message was here!
You know, I'd totally forgotten about that rule - and I confess (now that I'm reminded of its existence) that it was a reason why I stopped lurking in this Wiki. That, and I'd stopped playing Skyrim.  ; )
That rule really signalled a style in Community Management that I just wsan't down with. I'm not saying I have need to see an abundance of eggplant and peaches on a screen, and emojis certainly don't belong on article pages, but they really do help to convey tone.
The reason I created a "List of Followers (Skyrim)" page was actually in keeping with standard Wiki format practices. Wikipedia, for example, has the pages Arrow (TV Series) for the show, as well as List of Arrow Characters, and List of Arrow Episodes. Sometimes users don't want to have to scroll through a page of text to get to the table they're looking for - particularly on mobile phones.
Personally I find so much information in this Wiki really hard to find, and/or hard to read. Partially because of the colour choices (white text on a black screen), but also because of how the data is laid out. Tables that fail to show me the data I'm looking for, or Walkthroughs on Quest Pages that don't tell me the information I need to know. Thank goodness the mobile version of this site is black text on a white screen, but even then the formating is sub-optimal.
I took a look at the page for Armour in Skyrim and holy crap that page is a mess. The information that players need is drowing in data. So much of the data that's in those tables doesn't belong on the "Armour", page. For example, Item ID. That belongs on the page for each specific item, but not the page that talks about Armour as a whole. Same goes for the table for "Headgear". That belongs on a page for "Headgear (Skyrim)" - seriously, you have a page for Headgear but not Headgear (Skyrim)? WTH?  o.O
I suggest that you move the tables for "Headgear", "Boots", etc, to their own pages, and to replace them with a table that shows the value for complete sets of Armour. If people want to comapre individual items then they can go to the relevant page.
When it comes to dynamic tables I confess that I'm the "ideas" person and I have a couple of people that I get to help me with making them happen. I tell them what columns etc I want, they put it together, and I drown them in praise and gratitude. I could try to recruit their assistance here. This Wiki could definitely use them.
I'll jump into Discord and see what I can do to help.
PS. Out of curiosity, is there a reason you use Discord and not the Wiki's forum to discuss Wiki projects?
Yes, no worries. We've stuck with talk pages for a few reasons: one, because we try to reduce unnecessary redlinks on all namespaces, not just ns:0, and it's much easier to search through and edit a single page than a hundred when doing any sort of manual link maintenance (when doing automatic or semi-automatic maintenance, bots notably cannot edit Message Wall threads, even as admins). Message Walls also have a poor history function (much like Special:Forum) and are paginated, which can make it hard to find certain messages (whereas links will point to talk page archives). More generally, we just try to limit our reliance on proprietary features from Wikia that could be taken away or altered at any time. Wikia's notification system is not very good, but hopefully this will be addressed in the MediaWiki upgrade with @ mentions, like on Wikipedia.
I don't think we're going to be changing the color scheme anytime soon (it's part of the site identity at this point, and we try not to mess with that much, hence why we haven't touched the wordmark or background in several years), although it's possible to edit it for yourself with personal CSS. I've heard some mutterings through the grapevine that multi-theme options on a single wiki might become possible in the future, although I can't say for certain.
The structure of data is something that I'm very concerned with, though. I'm not sure why the Headgear article is just a redirect and why there are no headgear pages for any of the games, but similar pages have been redirects for 14 years (much before my time) and I just haven't gotten around to updating them yet. There is a lot to do and it's impossible to handle everything at once. I agree that it would be good to have individual articles for more armor types, and to transclude their contents on the main armor page. IDs are something we try to include in multiple places, even lists, because there are use-cases that involve spawning in a lot of different items at once. A separate section at the top of the article listing combined armor set stats would be a good addition. I can't really devote time to additional content at present as my bot tasklist has a multi-month backlog and my current projects are massive and unfinished, but I think Rupuzioks would be interested if you spoke to him. As for quest walkthroughs, that's again a slightly undefined problem that's hard to address comprehensively or quickly, but if you know of specific pages that need help, you can tag them with {{Attention}} and a note for future editors on how they may be improved.
Discord is the fastest way we've found to coordinate specific editing projects, although we try to make extensive use of maintenance categories and other such pages to maintain organization for broader ones, like "poor-quality images." Discord has much better mobile support than the 2.0 Forums, and their mobile-friendly counterpart "Discussions" (or "Feeds," as it's apparently known now) aren't really suited for wiki-related discussions, as most users there are not editors (the turnover rate there is too high for any decided effort to editor-ify the place to work. We've tried before). By design, as a modern chatroom, it has a less formal tone than forums, which encourages more communication, while the fact that old messages are stored means that people can usually keep up with editing discussions/etc. if they care to, like forums. It's not perfect, but it's been a pretty helpful tool so far. —Atvelonis (talk) 21:07, May 20, 2020 (UTC)
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