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X-Mutant

  • I live in Virginia, USA
  • I was born on August 27
  • I am Male

Welcome, X-Mutant!

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Hello X-Mutant, welcome to the Elder Scrolls Wiki! We're building a collaborative source of information for The Elder Scrolls, and we need your help!

We saw you making some changes to our articles and thank you for it. We hope you choose to further this project, and we hope to see you around in the future. If you choose to stay, here are some links to help you out:



I hope you enjoy editing here! If you have any questions, see the help pages or ask one of our administrators.

--Atvelonis (talk) 22:35, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Timeline Edit

Hi X-Mutant. Please only add new sections on Timeline and similar pages if you have something to add under it. There aren't major events for every year or even century so adding empty headings isn't exactly an improvement. You're completely free to add more to that page if you have a good event and a source, however. Thanks. Have fun editing! —Atvelonis (talk) 19:20, October 29, 2015 (UTC)

Arkngthamz Edit

Hi, please do not create articles for things that do not exist in Online. Arkngthamz in Skyrim is in The Reach, which isn't a region you have access to in ESO. So in the future just be careful which pages you create and check if they exist in the game. Thanks. Have fun editing! —Atvelonis (talk) 22:41, October 31, 2015 (UTC)

Categories Edit

There's no reason to add overarching/redundant categories (like you did here), so please keep that in mind. --Shockstorm (talk) 00:36, November 1, 2015 (UTC)

False Infomation Edit

Please stop adding false/unconfirmed information to articles. For example, adding Kvatch and the Gold Coast as locations to Cyrodiil (Online) is false information as those locations to not appear, and Zenimax has not confirmed if they will appear. Adding shellbug, lurker, and silt strider to Creatures (Online) is also false as those creatures do not appear in ESO, they only appear in other games. This also applies to Azura's Coast and what not to Morrowind (Online) as Vvardenfell has not been added yet and those regions are also not confirmed.

I noticed you created some pages when you first started contributing here. While some contained true and confirmed information, others did not and I had marked for deletion, and I let it slide. Heed my advice or you may end up with a ban in the future. ☞ Rim < Talk | Updates | Edits > 08:36, November 4, 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but wikis don't work that way. We only report what does or will exist, not what may exist. I know that you may think some pages will or should appear, but there is no absolute confirmation that they will.
For example, take Nimalten. This location appeared in The Elder Scrolls: Arena and The Elder Scrolls Online, but not in The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. The Elder Scrolls Online takes place centuries prior to the main games, so many locations will be different.
Creatures are also not confirmed. You may think they will appear, like Werecrocodiles or Nymphs, but they haven't. This doesn't necessarily mean they won't, because there is a chance they may appear, but that is unconfirmed information, therefore referred to as speculation, and not allowed on the wiki.
The Dark Brotherhood and Thieves Guild are confirmed to appear, but we don't know much about how it will be in ESO. For all we know they could be very different, we just need to wait for them to be released in order to know.
The Companions in ESO follow a different storyline than in Skyrim. In ESO, it goes more into the past about Ysgramor and the origin stories, where as in Skyrim it revolves more around Lycanthropy and the Silver Hand. We don't even know if the curse existed back in ESO, it could have been something that occurred in the hundreds of years between ESO and Skyrim.
Daedric Princes are another thing. Most of them appear in ESO, however, some of them do not. I had to manually confirm whether they had any presence in the game, and some like Vaermina did not.
As for the Dawnguard, we do know that it was formed in the Second Era, but we don't know if it was after or before ESO. Any information we add on them would be myths and mere thoughts, not confirmed information.
Bottom line is that we can't go around adding things that we feel should appear in ESO, we only add things that do appear in ESO. You can contact Zenimax and make suggestions, but you cannot add what you think should appear in ESO to articles on the wiki. Adding things to the wiki does not automatically make them canon in The Elder Scrolls universe, we do not make the game and we cannot control what appears and what doesn't, we only record it. I hope you can understand. ☞ Rim < Talk | Updates | Edits > 19:29, November 4, 2015 (UTC)

Unnecessary headings Edit

Hi X-Mutant, again please do not add unnecessary headings to articles. If there is no information about something in the Second Era for example, it does not need a heading. Some of the edits you made today were fine but only because there was information to fill up the sections you created. So please be careful what you add. Thanks. —Atvelonis (talk) 23:47, November 6, 2015 (UTC)

Speaking of which, is this you? Because they're making similar edits to what you have already been asked to stop, and sockpuppeting or otherwise misrepresenting yourself is a serious offense. --Shockstorm (talk) 06:54, November 7, 2015 (UTC)
Editing without being logged in isn't in any way illegal but adding incorrect stuff to the wiki after being informed of your mistakes most certainly is. I wouldn't like to do this but if you continue to add false information I'm going to have to block you for a short period of time. —Atvelonis (talk) 22:16, November 7, 2015 (UTC)

Re: No More Edits, Adding or Work Edit

You don't need to do that. I'm just offering you some constructive criticism—this wiki has a lot of policies and it takes a while to learn them. If someone is doing something incorrectly it's my job as an administrator to point them in the right direction. I'm not trying to make you feel bad or anything, I'm just trying to help you out. Take a look at my earliest talk page archive; you'll see that I was contacted by the former administrators multiple times for making mistakes. I used this guidance to become a better editor overall. Again, I'm not trying to take a jab at you or anything; I'm trying to help you. I hope you just take my messages into consideration when editing, because there is a right way and a wrong way to add stuff, and I want you to learn how to do it well so that the wiki can improve as a whole. —Atvelonis (talk) 22:08, November 7, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Stopping Edit

We aren't angry at you! We don't think you're a jerk, not at all. We're very happy that you're interested in adding information to the wiki, but wikis in general have a very specific way of figuring out what belongs and what doesn't: if it's mentioned in something that is considered canon, it should be noted here somewhere. If it has no basis in what we consider canon, it isn't mentioned. Simple as that. We want to help you improve as an editor and the only way for us to actually do that is by talking to you. Simply reverting your edits and expecting you to know our reasoning would be silly, and that's why we're making the effort to reach out and help you along. If you're insistent on leaving then I can't really stop you, but I hope you understand that what we're doing here isn't done so with malice in any form. —Atvelonis (talk) 01:05, November 8, 2015 (UTC)

Re: An Empty PageEdit

I apologize, I assumed that this wiki had a policy about erasing your talk page messages, but i was unable to find any information in this wiki's guidelines about such a policy. Many other wiki do have policies about erasing your personal talk page, but apperantly this one does not. If you feel the need to erase messages again, i will not undo your edit this time. The Cat Master (talk) 06:18, November 8, 2015 (UTC)

While you can't outright remove information from your talkpage, you're allowed to move it to an archive it if you want. To do this just click the tab next to the edit button on your talkpage, hit "Archive," and then "Save Archive." —Atvelonis (talk) 18:56, November 8, 2015 (UTC)

Re: What I Mean Edit

Regardless of whatever your situation on other wikis may be, I can assure you that no one here thinks you are a jerk. It's also possible that you misunderstood what those other wikis were saying (emotion is harder to convey through text than through speech)—it's really easy to see a constructive message as an angry one if you put it in a different light. However, I know with absolute certainty that no one here wishes you any harm. I'm not going to ask why you think other sites are angry with you, but you need to know that we're simply trying to help you improve here—feedback is an essential part of getting better at just about anything! If you're really set on leaving then that's your choice, but know that you're always welcome here. —Atvelonis (talk) 18:52, November 8, 2015 (UTC)

Re: The Truth Edit

I'm having a difficult time understanding why people from multiple wikis hate you that much. Unless you explicitly threatened to destroy their wiki or something I don't think they would be genuinely angry at you, let alone threaten to physically assault you. You shouldn't feel bad about "opening up" as you put it—the world is much more interesting when you get to know people better! And I don't think you're lying about this whole thing... I just think that you've blown things a little out of proportion. Is there more to this issue than I'm getting? I'd be happy to talk it over more in-depth on Chat in private message sometime, if you'd like. —Atvelonis (talk) 01:37, November 9, 2015 (UTC)

Whoops, it seems I just missed you on chat. I'll be on for the next few hours and next evening too, if that could work out? —Atvelonis (talk) 02:29, November 9, 2015 (UTC)

Edits Edit

Do you have any source/proof for adding things like this, or are you again adding fanon to articles? --Shockstorm (talk) 10:29, May 21, 2016 (UTC)

You need to stop right now. What you're doing constitutes vandalism, and you've been warned many times about it before. Your edits have been reverted over and over, not to mention your sockpuppet use. Stopping now may prevent you from being blocked. --Shockstorm (talk) 10:42, May 21, 2016 (UTC)

Please don't remove sections from your talk page, this isn't helping in any way. — Flightmare @fandom (talk) 22:24, May 21, 2016 (UTC)

OvercategorisationEdit

Hello X-Mutant,

I appreciate the effort you are putting into this wiki. However, at some point I think adding more categories isn't the right approach. There is such a thing as Overcategorisation, where having too many categories for an article will actually achieve the opposite effect. The Squirrel for instance has so many categories added it might get lost in there. At the same time, the amount of horizontal categories is best to be kept to a minimum. The squirrel page now lists rodents and mammals. But since all rodents are mammals, it'd be better having mammals as parent category of rodents, freeing the page of having it tagged ad a mammal directly.

In the future it'd be better to discuss such additions so we can all agree on what's the best approach.

Flightmare @fandom (talk) 13:18, June 6, 2016 (UTC)

X-Mutant, you need to stop now or you'll be blocked. It's that simple. --Shockstorm (talk) 06:24, June 7, 2016 (UTC)
The problem with what you are doing is this isn't just an "idea" as you've stated on Shockstorm's Talk Page. You are already doing something (your "idea") without asking anyone else for opinion, and even after people have asked you to stop, you continue... Keep in mind, even if your edits are helpful and even if people agree with them, wikis have editing styles / policies etc. to follow and/or a community to discuss changes with before it is allowed. You are simply running about, doing whatever you want to do regardless of what anyone else says/how previous formatting was like. This is exactly the same type of behavior a vandal has.
RenzXVI // Talk  // Chat //   07:31, June 7, 2016 (UTC)
When did I say helpful things are bad? What is with you and that outcast label? It's looking like you are using a "pity me" tactic to get people to feel sorry for you or something. You seem to be using it in every discussion you are in, like in your recent response to Shockstorm and every other topic on your talk page, you always end up talking about being an outcast... It's not about you or me or people who disagree / agree with you. This wiki does certain things in a specific way and changing that will ruin uniformity and will confuse other people who are not used to it, specially if you are the only one who's into this new change which you are doing. It's like painting a house where everyone is using white paint and then you appear and start using blue paint, then your excuse is "Sorry, I'm an outcast, I am helping but everyone thinks my ideas are always wrong!".
RenzXVI // Talk  // Chat //   08:29, June 7, 2016 (UTC)

CategoriesEdit

Hey X-Mutant, the categories you've been adding recently are unneeded. They do not belong on articles, and are meant to organize more specific categories. If an article has too many on it, it just makes things more complicated and involves a lot more work than is needed. As you have been notified of overcategorizing before, I'd advise you to no longer add any more categories in the future, and instead try and improve the article in other ways. Thanks! - Kora Stormblade (talk) 20:29, December 28, 2016 (UTC)

Re:X-Mutant Categories Question?Edit

Please post on my talkpage, and not on my profile.

First of all, when did I ever mention anything was personal? Not once have I done so, and if anyone else was doing what you were doing, I would tell them to stop, just as any other staff member would, because I and the staff have already explained why you shouldn't add categories like that. You get "these messages telling to stop what [you are] doing" because you aren't editing/categorizing a page properly, and continue to do so after being told not to. So stop adding categories, it's nothing against you, but what you are doing. - Kora Stormblade (talk) 21:08, December 28, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Hello I was wondering can we talk Edit

Hi, welcome back. Feel free to ask for whatever you need, sure. I should be able to help. —Atvelonis (talk) 16:37, January 3, 2018 (UTC)

You can put a link to it on your profile if you want, but it would count as self-promotion if you try to advertise it anywhere else, such as the Forums or Discussions, which isn't allowed. —Atvelonis (talk) 18:20, January 4, 2018 (UTC)
Oh, if you just want to become acquainted with sysop tools, that's different. I'll go through each of your questions. If you go on your wiki and create an infobox, by default you will probably be sent to Wikia's new "Infobox Builder." This is probably the easiest way to work on an infobox, because it requires no coding knowledge. I would recommend you use this if you aren't familiar with creating infoboxes already.
Alternatively, there is a small button in the bottom-right corner of the page that lets you edit the infobox in Source: you can just copy+paste the code from one of our infoboxes, and change the parameters based on what is applicable to your wiki. For example, if you base your template off of {{SkyrimCharacters}}, your wiki might not have any need for "RefID" or "stamina" or something, so you could rename or remove those for your adaptation.
I think Theme Designer is pretty self-explanatory: you choose which images you want to use and what colors the theme of your wiki should be. Most of the colors are subjective, although I would recommend you not make the link color red or orange, because users might confuse it with an actual redlink.
You can create and edit achievements through Special:AchievementsCustomize. Wikia has a few default achievements, but you can create new "Achievement Tracks" for specific categories. Each of these have badges for 1 edit, 5, 10, 25, 50, 100, 250, and sometimes 500, and they all need unique images and names. On this wiki we tend to name our badges off of things from the games, or sometimes notable users, but it's up to you.
If you're interested in learning more about how to be a good admin, I've actually written a pretty comprehensive guide on this here. Most of it is talking about what qualities you should have, how you should respond to certain situations, etc., but the bottom part talks a certain amount about finishing day-to-day admin tasks. Some of it won't necessarily apply to your wiki, but it's still worth a read. Let me know if you have any other questions, of course. —Atvelonis (talk) 04:14, January 5, 2018 (UTC)

FormatEdit

The lead is supposed to be a separate line following the infobox. Please stop altering the format. There is no need to have other users constantly correct it following your edits. The Cat Master (talk) 14:59, April 16, 2018 (UTC)

The issue isn't with the information you added. That is appreciated. The issue is formatting changes you made in regards to the placement of the lead paragraph. The Cat Master (talk) 15:47, April 16, 2018 (UTC)

Re: So The Cat Master.Edit

I'm sorry for the delay in responding. I'm pretty busy and can't spend a lot of time on the wiki ATM. Anyway, I assume you are talking about creating new articles about? If you want to create new pages, this page has information that may help get you started. If you have any more questions i'll try answering the best I can, (I'm not the best at explaining stuff though) Atvelonis is also a good person to ask, as he is really good at explaining how to edit. One last thing, I don't know what editor you use. I highly recommend using source editor if you don't already, as the visual editor is buggy. If you go to the "Editing" tab in "My Preferences" you can find the option to change the editor there. The Cat Master (talk) 18:21, April 16, 2018 (UTC)

Hi X-Mutant, if what you're doing is switching from Visual to Source every time you edit a page, simply being in the VisualEditor already breaks the formatting of articles. This is why we recommend you set the Source editor to your default, so that no switch is necessary. And while it's on my mind, please try to keep your revisions to only one or two edits per page at a time, rather than several one after another. I'm grateful that you're adding useful ESO content, but it's a little hard on our patrollers with too many tiny edits. Thanks. —Atvelonis (talk) 01:12, April 17, 2018 (UTC)
The Source Editor is definitely the best editor to use. It's less buggy than Visual, and has more features. I also think it helps you understand the fundamentals of editing better than the alternative. If you ever need help with the markup, I have a guide on it here, and you could always ask myself or another administrator for help. —Atvelonis (talk) 01:51, April 17, 2018 (UTC)
It's perfectly fine that you're adding creature locations to articles. Small things like that are often overlooked but they're still important to the development of the wiki and its usefulness as a comprehensive source of information. If no one bothered to write down where you could find torchbugs, someone who wanted their loot might have trouble getting it. Don't worry about making mistakes while editing, it's part of the learning process. We're always here to help you improve as an editor. —Atvelonis (talk) 03:54, April 17, 2018 (UTC)
Are you positive that those are the animals you've screenshotted? When you get relatively close to the animal, there should be a popup near your compass that shows their name and health (this applies to all characters/creatures). If there is no nametag then you cannot verify what animal it actually is, so we probably can't have it on the wiki, unless you datamine the info or something. —Atvelonis (talk) 01:20, April 18, 2018 (UTC)
We can't allow photos of a TV screen on the wiki; try to take screenshots instead. If you're on PC, the F12 (Steam default) or Print Screen buttons should work. If using F12, be sure to have previously checked the box in Steam's "In-game" section on the "Settings" tab that says "Save an uncompressed copy." This will save it in a new folder (I think you choose which one), and the images will be in the PNG file format instead of JPG. Print Screen saves it somewhere in your documents.
If you're on Xbox One, you should be able to double-tap the Xbox button to save a screenshot, then follow the directions here to transfer it to your PC. If you're on PS4, click the share button and then the square button to take a screenshot, and then follow these steps to transfer it.
I think I've seen vultures before (probably in Deshaan or Stonefalls or something). I'm not sure about owls or falcons, but if you're sure that's what they are, then go ahead and create pages for them. —Atvelonis (talk) 02:20, April 18, 2018 (UTC)
In the future, if you're taking an image from another website, you have to add a citation in the file summary while uploading it, per CC-BY-SA, which is the license that the wiki abides by in order to stay up. Also remember that images with the HUD/UI are usually not preferred, unless they're demonstrating something that requires it. It's better to take photos in-game, yourself, because this way you have more control over the end product. —Atvelonis (talk) 20:25, April 19, 2018 (UTC)
Also, while we may allow images from some external websites if they're of decent quality and sourced well, we have a mutual agreement with the UESP not to use each other's content. Therefore, you should avoid uploading any images from them. —Atvelonis (talk) 20:31, April 19, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Um Cat Master.Edit

First of all you should stop being so hard on your self. I'm not mad about your edits. You just seem like need to gain more experience. As far as the birds category, it wasn't really necessary as we don't need any for classes of animals. If we do that, then we might as well have categories for mammals, reptiles, etc, which don't really serve a purpose here. I did notice the Vulture page you started last night and it was good. I did some clean up to it, but it didn't require a lot. The Cat Master (talk) 15:36, April 18, 2018 (UTC)

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